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Episode 37: Discussing the Events of The Book of Boba Fett Episode 6 (EMERGENCY RECORDING!) · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Hello, there. It's time for most things
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Kenobi. Hello, everyone.
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Welcome to another episode of most things Kenobi.
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A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi in all things Star Wars.
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I'm your host Leanne and I'm your host Lauren.
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Emergency transmission happening this week.
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This episode we are sitting down less than 48 hours after episode
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6 of The Book of Boba Fett. And if you have not seen it at
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this point, this is nothing but spoilers.
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So turn away. Now, you're invited to come back
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after you've seen the episode but this entire episode is
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nothing but spoiler. So yes, consider this.
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Your fair warning. We love you.
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Please come back. But yes, we don't want to spoil
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anything for anybody, so we're trying to give know are warning
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up front, is this? This is a big one.
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Yes, we are interrupting. Our usually scheduled program.
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We had we were supposed to talk about, I think favorite quotes,
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right? Is what we're supposed to have.
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Exactly. That's going to come next week
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because this is far too important to not a chart
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important. Yeah, this is, this is an
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emergency recording all because of one, Luke Skywalker, who Oh
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my God. And so Lauren and I have really
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tried to keep quiet to each other about this.
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So you're going to get our raw reaction together.
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We've said like maybe four sentences to each other.
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We've been holding it in all day.
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All day. We didn't actually since last
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night and yesterday. Yes, such we saw it and we're
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just like, you know what, we're not going to do this to.
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We have a microphone in front of our faces and we can share this
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with everybody. And here we are.
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Oh my God, girl, I was dying, I'm dead, I'm still dead.
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I'm still not over. It it took me so long to like
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just I was in like I'm still in processing mode.
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Hmm. Today.
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Because it was so it was so much greatness that I had to like
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just step away and process, but I think I'm ready to talk about
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it. If you are, oh yes, I'm sure.
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I'm sure there are things. I'm going to forget to talk
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about, but it doesn't matter. I have to talk about some things
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to make them for the other things to come up.
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Yes. Yeah.
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And so, let's just get it out of the way.
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We were treated to some incredibly amazing shit last
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night. Yes Lee.
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Oh my God stuff that like my child, my inner child was just
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spasming out because it was just oh.
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So the second that R2D2 shows up you kind of know where it's
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going. Yeah.
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I mean, And then we get treated to the beginnings of Luke
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school. Yeah, which is so bittersweet.
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It's so it was a beautiful location, it's so peaceful.
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Mmm. And it makes it hurts to know
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like what ends up happening to it, how it looks.
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I know, you know, based on that shot that we see in the sequel's
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devastating. Oh, but but then we see him with
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grow goo I mean, okay so like Mando and grow go are
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heartbreaking enough. Yeah.
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Then you throw in Luke Skywalker, realness?
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Which did that deep fake look amazing or what?
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I mean. So good.
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It's so good. So much better.
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The improvement from last episode of man, do to this lie.
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Unbelievable. They fixed everything that I
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think they needed to and I just sometimes I just stared at the
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TV, like, am I even watching us? You may even sing this, like it
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was Mark, Hamill's face, Mark, Hamill's Voice, or at least very
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close to it. And, I mean, it was, it was real
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enough for me to be happy. They with everything.
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Yeah. Me too.
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I came away, feeling II felt so happy afterwards, instead of
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like, oh, that was a little off, mark, it was like there was no
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feeling Feeling like there were things about it that were like
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because when you know, Mark Hamill as well as we all do.
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Yeah, because we've all grown up watching him and we heard his
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voice. Our entire lives, of course,
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we're going to be aware, but it was as close to him as you could
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get without it actually being him.
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Yeah. And then they added a Sokka.
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Yeah, what I mean that was when I was like, okay, I'm losing my
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fucking shit when they step into a scene together.
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She together just casually walks up behind him and he can sense
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her coming and he turns a little bit and then they start to and
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then the things they say to each other and I yes, I'd I'm still
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not being been resuscitated. No.
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I mean I think that was the most real moment for me and okay.
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Like, And I'm still processing but who knew after the Luke seen
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that we got in the Mandalorian season 2 finale that like a year
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or so later we'd get a whole hour of him and we would get a
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scene with him and his father's Padawan like you want to talk
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about a coming together of the world, my mind fucking nearly
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exploded and the things she just looks at him.
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Rosario Dawson does it, right? She has that look down.
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Mmm, she looked at Luke. With love, like, as you would
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now, she said, just, I'm a friend of the family's, you
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know, that's something that I so Kitano.
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Would totally say right. Everybody melted in their seats
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watching the. Yes.
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But then she says, you are so much like your father.
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I mean, just take the knife and twist it, I just couldn't.
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I was, I was watching the scene and my brain was racing a
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million miles an hour thinking like she must just be thinking
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that the entire time. And then she said it and I was
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like, Like God bless you, Dave filoni?
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Yeah. And Jon Favreau?
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Like? That is why like all the Clone
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Wars people are just like dying to hear that and they just gave
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it right to his little gym. It was so beautiful and the way
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he looks at her when she says. Yep.
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Right. And I have chills, by the way I
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literally have like Goosebumps but You want to I mean that's
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the amalgamation of the world's right there.
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Mmm. You know all these moments.
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And so does this mean we're going to get the conversation
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that we all want. Like because you know, it's
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happened, it's happened by this point, Luke and Ahsoka have
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talked the friends now they clearly know.
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One another, he says to her in the end, will I see you again?
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Which kind of hurt? Oh my gosh.
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It was like, sad. So are we going to get Get the
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talk. We'll call it the talk.
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Yeah, that Luke and Ahsoka. Must have at this point.
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We're so he tells her your master turned back to the light
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in the end and she gets to tell him all about his father and his
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mother. Yeah.
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Oh my God, we're basically her parents.
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Yes. That would just be like I could
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see it happening in her show. Yes.
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See it now. I feel like this really.
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Because remember what I said in a previous episode, where Luke
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is the one who brings down thrawn in the original thrawn
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trilogy, He or like at least. Yes, right.
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Strong. And now they're having a so
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could do that. And I was like, what?
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If it's Oka? And Luke like teamed up now they
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could they've set it up so that like, it's very possible.
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Well, the producers have proven with this singular episode, they
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can make 60 minutes or whatever odd minutes.
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It was of Luke Skywalker happen. Yeah, without Any.
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I mean there were things I liked and things that was like okay
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but like for the most part they could pull it off.
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Yeah. Like how fucking brave are they
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this episode is so courageous because it's like you said and
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end of man, do we could see how they had the cloak, they covered
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his face, you know, and then at the end he pulls hood off.
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And you just see the Deep fake quote-unquote for a few minutes.
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This was like balls to the walls.
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We are doing this like Like all the way that they held shots of
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his face on purpose. Yes.
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For longer than they probably needed to.
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Yes. Just to be like do you see what
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we've created? You've done a good job skin it.
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Yes. See and so many tiny little
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moments and much bigger moments. Just all wrapped into what I
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just I have so many emotions and all I'm doing is stuttering
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terribly from podcasts. I agree with us but we're
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emotional, we're not going to go in order but we will.
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Yeah, it's gonna, but everything is gonna be all over the place
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but I don't care. Okay, so one of the things you
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were talking about the conversation with Ahsoka and
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Luke, and I was talking to my sister earlier saying, the part
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with grow goo. He said, let me help you
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remember, Brr, yes, yes that was let's talk about that scene.
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But I was thinking I kept wondering if Vader was going to
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walk through with end because imagine like not only is it
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grow? Goo is memory and he's like
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feeling and remembering. But what if Luke saw that like
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saw Anakin in order 66, I was just wondering if that was going
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to happen because like then the layers of all of that, like Luke
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has only heard stories and this would be him seeing Through The
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Eyes of another. What?
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And that day. Yes and we didn't get the
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finished scene and I wonder if we will because the question
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remains, how does grow goo make it out of there?
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Yeah. My sister to really clever idea.
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She was like what if it was the Sokka and when she first met
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grow go back and Mandalorian when she said that she could
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read his thoughts. What if she was just not like
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what if that wasn't true? What if she had already?
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She already knew him. I was like, that's interesting,
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interesting idea but isn't a Soca already on Mandalore, at
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the time that the all the shit's going down or does she make it
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back and find him? Yeah, I mean, they don't say
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when he was rescued from the temple, I said he was taken from
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the temple, but nobody ever specified.
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When, or who? So what have heard of can just
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let him go. Yeah, I mean he could have been
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hiding in there for a long time. Yeah, he's small enough, he's
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resourceful enough. We've seen Already.
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Yeah. I still think that maybe Yoda
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saved him, that would make them the most logical sense in like a
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breed saving its own breed, like its own.
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Yes he's but Yoda is also on his way to something else.
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He's battling Palpatine and then getting the fuck out and
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thinking you can layer being born and stuff and it's not I'm
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not sure sis space station on Dagobah like how the fuck would
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yo to get on and off of Dagobah? Does he have a ship odd?
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Yeah. Yeah, they showed a little ship.
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Oh I guess gets out. Yeah, it's just a tiny little
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Yoda ship it baby shake. It looks like an escape pod.
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I don't know if it is. It one that he got from The
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Bookies, or is this something to maybe?
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I don't know. Whatever.
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I'm just side. Try know.
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It's like a little golf cart baby Yoda's.
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Now, baby o.o, real Yoda's, golf cart and it's really funny.
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I'll get some, get some there, it does, what it be via.
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So of battery-powered. But that's I like your sisters
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Theory. It could be interesting.
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I mean maybe not could be anybody honestly, it could be,
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it could be anybody. I was saying like if you on
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fucking Twitter are saying if we see a purple lightsaber show up
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in a one-handed Jedi, I'm going to lose my mind.
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I'm like, come on now. We can't have 50 heart attacks
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just into three episodes like you got to space them out
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Favreau and filoni like I'm sure they will because they want us
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to watch all the other shows. They're going to produce.
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Oh yeah. Yeah.
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No they definitely they they set up many other shows in one
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episode. Yeah the Ahsoka show the throne
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show. Yeah your man do tential, other
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shows the next season of man do like know someone was saying
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like book of book of Boba Fett has slowly just becoming
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Mandalorian season 3. Okay, let's talk about that
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because people some people online are pretty pissed.
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Like, you know what? I would love to see more of Boba
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Fett in The book of Boba Fett, it's like okay, slow down folks.
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We wouldn't have gotten a book of Boba Fett without the
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Mandalorian series, okay? and, So I think Boba as far as
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shows or concern though, is this 12?
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Yeah, I mean honestly I think of these shows now as more of like
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the new Star Wars and their yeah.
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Like like the universe of the yeah and there's Cinematic
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Universe. Exactly.
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And they're just using different names for different branches of
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the story but they're all part of the same big story, you know,
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the cross-pollinating everything.
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So yeah. Which is good marketing.
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I mean, we sat here on this podcast and said, if you two met
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Draya Kenobi. Yeah, you could have promoted
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the Kenobi show and filled gaps and but there's also the theory
13:58
going around that perhaps Obi-Wan has some influence on
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grow goo and we'll see that show up in his show, but I think
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there's enough topics there for Kenobi, show to tackle without
14:08
that a standalone. I mean it's I wondered if like,
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it's possible that Obi-Wan is the one who rescued grow.
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Go, if you want to give The internet and aneurysm have it.
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Absolutely should have cannolis. Show up.
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Just save Kroger and you're gonna literally murder half of
14:26
half of your fans. They won't be able to hear
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handle it. But it would sure tie in really
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interestingly with the new Kenobi show season 1 but yeah
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and here's the thing to for the people who are upset, I get it
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at the same time, it's not over yet.
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They obviously SLI have some sort of plan, they got one more
14:50
episode. Let's just hold off.
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Yeah, I'm jumping. The gun here before the shows,
14:55
even done. This is the show Lauren that I
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said, I would not watch because I didn't give a shit now.
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I know I cannot say that about any one of these shows, it's
15:05
like Marvel every Marvel movie, wraps into every other Marvel
15:09
movie. Yeah, you've got to watch it all
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your. Gotta Watch em all thing like
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hardened. So I learned my Lesson real
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fast. But I mean, thank God I did
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because look at what I've I would have heard about it but it
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would have been spoiled. I mean you would have probably
15:24
called me and said, you have got my gosh, I did that with a few
15:29
of my friends today who are huge Star Wars fans, but they've been
15:32
like kind of met on the shows which is how I feel about the
15:35
shows who's yeah. Sure.
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I mean sometimes they feel a little low budget for what they
15:41
are. They feel like kind of what Star
15:42
Trek used to feel like back in the whatever that was my mother
15:46
will hiss at you for saying that.
15:48
It's part of what was this, true.
15:50
It's what was endearing about Star Trek.
15:52
I'm not shit talking. It's like that genre of Sci-Fi
15:56
TV show, right? And it was like, very true
15:58
monster of the week and the sets when it was like a boulder,
16:02
you'd put your hand on it and leg.
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If they didn't pan away fast enough, you could see it was
16:06
made of Styrofoam, you know, they kind of shit.
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It's true. And yeah, sometimes it has that
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feeling and like, I would definitely say book of Boba
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Fett, the first episode, the way, they cut the action, made
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it look cheap it. Looked like they didn't have
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stunt people like following through all the way.
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So they cut and pans and moved the cameras in a way that made
16:26
it look like you couldn't quite see the action all the way
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through and It felt campy to me but I still was enjoying it for
16:36
the most part. These episodes are lore building
16:41
episodes, right? And they, yes, they tie into the
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bigger picture which is what is so rewarding to a Star Wars fan.
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Truly, I completely agree. He said that perfectly.
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Yes, it's fine to tell these stories which is why I really
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didn't like Mandalorian season one there.
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I've said it, it was boring and it was monster of the week and I
17:02
just don't care about stuff because you tell me I should
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Yes. So act by season 2.
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They started lore building again and like showing the cloning
17:14
facilities and all this weird shit where you're just like,
17:17
what the fuck is this gonna like tie into in a bigger story line?
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That's where I get very interested because there was so
17:25
much material and Star Wars. Right now, that you really gotta
17:29
tell me something special to get me interested.
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Like, I don't want to just be force-fed, you know, another
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Goofy. Scenario where we crash our car
17:39
into a bicycle or whatever the fuck is happening in season?
17:43
Yeah. Notice there's a few Superfluous
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a scene. Yeah, his slowest biker.
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Chase I ever saw in my life I don't want to talk about that
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same not in this episode. Yeah, it was that's it
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something. But like my point is book about,
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that was entertaining. It was fine but like this is
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tying it into a bigger story and I think It's actually pretty
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cool that they're giving Boba Fett foot into the larger story
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because he was always a peripheral character.
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Yes. And and I also saw that online
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today that they're like, well, you guys got what you wanted,
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Boba Fett standing in the background, while the other
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characters take care of. But I mean because that's how we
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were introduced to him and the original trilogy, let's be real.
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But now he's being given some depth and I appreciate that
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because it's about the story you and I will preach to the day.
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We're That Star Wars is about the storytelling.
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Yes, it's not about the gimmicks.
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No, the gimmicks are fun. It makes it kind of campy.
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And yeah, I'm feeling silly. It's Star Wars this fantasy but
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it's the human aspect. Like when not to get off Luke
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for too long but when Boba Fett was with the the Stanley couple?
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Yes the tusken Raider Clan. Yes, that was amazing and they
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didn't even Speak anything. I understood.
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It was communal, it was one one group of people teaching someone
19:17
else. Something in that person
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teaching this group of people, something and in the shared it's
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you know, and respect not there. Was that right?
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Yes. Yeah you don't even need
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dialogue, there was some action there and there was some
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dialogue through like act you know like hmm.
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Like but with it trying to almost sign language stuff.
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Yeah which is great. They were teaching each other.
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The tribal dance at the end of episode 2 was like probably my
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favorite scene before this whole episode episode 6.
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Like that's the kind of shit that I really like Boba Fett, at
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the end of the day just wants a family he wants to he wants a
19:51
clan he wants a crew, never had one.
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All he had was his father. And that was, you know, So it is
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not all that different from Luke you don't ya org Roku or Den man
20:03
do because they're all just trying to find their Clan and
20:06
where they belong and who they trust and everything.
20:08
And yeah, I think it is a overspreading overarching theme
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between all of these characters you can tie them together if you
20:15
want or you could be like okay well that was a man do and Luke
20:17
episode but I don't think so there's similarities between all
20:20
these individuals trying to make their way and find their place.
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I mean you could say Luke's was laid out before For him, but
20:28
he's still trying to find. I think right up until the
20:30
moment he dies. He's still trying to find his
20:33
place. Hmm.
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Yes, every time he thinks he breaches it.
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Kind of steps back a little or gets Rewritten or finds a new
20:41
obstacle or, you know, which is just life, right?
20:45
That's it. I mean it would be pretty
20:47
interesting if let's say grow, gu wants to go back with the
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Mandalorian. So Luke brings him back and he's
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in Jabba's Palace with Boba Fett.
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Again, there would be tension there, don't you think that
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would, that would be an odd. And like, dude, the Are time.
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I've been watching Boba Fett. I've been wondering why the fuck
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he doesn't want any revenge against Han Solo.
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Solo has not come up. Once he's a big reason.
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He's in that fucking pit at the in the first episode.
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Do you want to know what? I think?
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I'm marking it down. I'm making it known on this
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podcast right now. In this moment I think what
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they're going to bust out. Maybe not in this particular
21:36
sequence but it's going to happen.
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I think Han Solo's coming. I think we're going to get it.
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I don't know how they've proven. They can do whatever they want.
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Now with deep fakes and face, facial recognitions, and all
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kinds. Okay, I think we're going to get
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a deep fake Leia. A very young Ben solo who show
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up to Luke school and Hans there in Han Bridges, the Gap to Boba
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and that that's like, The next book of boba or something, but
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I'm calling it right now. There's going to be a deep fake
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Leia. Whether she's off in the
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distance and bend comes running towards Luke.
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Like Uncle Lucas, I got even worse, right?
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Knowing what we know? Yeah.
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Oh my God, but like, could you imagine if they had that happen?
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They could use any little kid for Ben solo.
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That's true area. It's cheap.
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Fake, Adam, driver's. Face on a tiny kid.
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I totally shit. He'd probably agree to do it.
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We love Adam Driver. Oh, my God.
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Amazing, talented motherfucker. But yeah, that's, I'm cool.
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I'm just saying, if we see that, I will not be surprised, but I
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think Han is not to be counted out yet.
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Fucking weird. Would it be if we just end up
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getting more like original trilogy stuff?
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But they're all just like, AI versions of the I'm okay with it
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it would be okay as long as it's long as filoni is in charge, I'm
23:00
okay with it because he loves those characters, you know what
23:04
filoni and favorite book. You know, flown he did because
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this was quote-unquote his episode.
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He said, oh, you want Luke Skywalker.
23:12
How about an hour of Luke Skywalker?
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You want baby. Yo, do you miss baby or how
23:15
about an hour of baby Yoda? Oh wait, why don't we sprinkle
23:19
some are soaked in there. Oh we want Anakin references.
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Okay, you got those too. Oh and by the way, can At Bain,
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I do. Oh my God.
23:28
That entrance was so Fierce. As soon as I saw his silhouette
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as like, that writer skit and shot.
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Yeah, it's like he's getting blown the fuck away.
23:38
Yeah. And in fabulous style, I, I know
23:43
as he's walking up. I was like, I swear to God.
23:45
If Corey Burton, it's not though, voice.
23:48
It's not going to be kid pain. Nope, it's not going to that.
23:51
Of course, it was so relieved. He looks spooky.
23:55
Is fucked. I mean I would not want to see
23:58
him in the in the Clone Wars, he's kind of like He's his own
24:03
caricature of himself. Yeah.
24:05
But then you put him in like live-action, you're like, oh,
24:09
fuck. If I came up against him I
24:11
wouldn't and to think how many times Kenobi had to deal with
24:14
this bitch, like with Quinlan Vos like I know, right?
24:20
Put it into perspective. This guy was badass.
24:23
Look at him. He was terrifying.
24:24
Looking. Whoo.
24:26
If you ran into that, a dark alley shit your pants.
24:29
I mean the the mayor there. What's his name?
24:32
Remember, his character's name? I'm so sorry.
24:33
Oh, the the sheriff? Yeah, I remember, he told
24:37
everybody all sides. That's just all I know.
24:39
Is the actor. Yeah, exactly.
24:41
Character. I think it's like, I think it
24:43
begins with a see, I can't remember.
24:44
It doesn't matter. I only learned who Max Rebo was
24:47
today. I didn't know he had a fucking
24:49
name and I would like to publicly publicly apologize to
24:53
Max Rebo himself because I didn't know that creature had a
24:58
name, what kind of Star Wars fan of mine?
25:01
Well done, everybody. He's like is he okay he came
25:04
everyone else like is Max Rebo, okay?
25:06
And I'm like, who the fuck is Max Rebo?
25:07
Like and it looked it up was like, oh it's the blue guy.
25:11
I didn't realize, I hope he's. All right.
25:14
Max Rebo. And the max Rebo Band.
25:17
Yes, I didn't even fucking really not die on Jabba's.
25:20
Barge, how is he still alive? Oh so when I looked up Max Rebo,
25:24
there is a hole on Wikipedia Wikipedia shout out to our
25:27
friends at Wikipedia. They have a whole thing on there
25:31
about how he is. Dave's.
25:32
What's in there? Okay, all right.
25:34
Yeah. As I was finding out that like,
25:35
they all had names. I had not.
25:37
I okay. So like our girls sighs noodles
25:41
is in the band. I didn't know she was a part of
25:43
the official band. But okay, anyway, we hope Max,
25:50
we hope you doing all right. It's a tough loss, if not, but
25:55
if you survive the barge, you'll be, alright?
25:57
I guess you'll be. Alright, like spring rolled
25:59
away, somehow sending prayers, and good wishes.
26:02
So let can we can we go back to something that I do not want to
26:04
miss? Because I think it's our
26:06
highlight perhaps besides the Anakin Ahsoka, Luke referencing
26:12
and side-eyeing and twinkle in her eye and everybody knows and
26:16
it's all Luke Skywalker with a lightsaber.
26:20
Oh my God. Yeah, I was going to say, can we
26:22
please talk about that at some place?
26:24
Just talked about that because that was my favorite part.
26:30
Honestly, I it's, I was watching the scene, like grow goo was
26:35
with like, yeah, I know, I was just like, whoever the fuck is
26:40
doing that in real life. Is yes.
26:43
A hero now. Because it's like the we never
26:46
got that scene, right? And Empires Expect Lucha.
26:49
Suddenly knows how to wield a lightsaber even though Yoda only
26:52
had him like basically doing backflips, well, dance dance,
26:56
the entire time. It's true which he obviously
26:59
held onto because he did it with little girl go on his back.
27:02
That was cute. So fun, what?
27:04
A reminiscent, beautiful nod. The part where he jumps onto it
27:08
like an animal's back. Yes, it's just like laughs.
27:12
Wake up. The poor innocent.
27:15
That's very Star Wars. It like it is.
27:18
It's that That, you know, the kind of like, that's the kind of
27:21
kid friendly cute thing that I like, in Star Wars not the like
27:25
womp rat Dragon, a woman behind a crate.
27:28
Whatever I met I was just not in my weight but anywho.
27:33
Yeah, when he like lit, the lightsaber instead of doing
27:36
katas in the bamboo forest, I literally, I literally died.
27:42
I died. My soul left my body.
27:47
It was that guy. That he was fucking great like
27:51
the control he has and the forms.
27:53
He was making or just the pointedness of his, the
27:58
sharpness of his movements, maybe kudos to the body double
28:01
but it's what we would expect from Luke Skywalker at this
28:05
point. Yes.
28:06
And we you know but it's what we saw in that hallway scene in
28:10
Mandalorian season 2 finale, the control, the precise movements.
28:13
Everything is what we see in the sequel scene when it's him and
28:17
Leia sparring for. Or fun.
28:19
Yeah, the movements the control the very Skywalker.
28:23
Enos of it. It was it was fantastic looking
28:30
good and was so different than ahsoka's fighting style.
28:33
Totally. Yeah, I mean, I also noticed
28:38
that he did like a perhaps it has a name, you're the expert on
28:41
this but like the jab like we're at Jabs.
28:43
Right? Towards the camera.
28:44
I love that Ray does that. Yeah I was thinking it was very
28:47
similar to think that to the scene in what it was?
28:50
That last Jedi were raised practicing, he's on the island.
28:53
Yeah I thought that was I got Vibes of that and I thought
28:56
that's It's a good tie in. Yeah.
28:58
And I liked that we finally get to see Luke doing that as a one
29:01
of the many Jedis in all of Star Wars.
29:04
We never see him practicing lightsaber combat.
29:08
So it was pretty fucking awesome and like, it was so precise and
29:13
so beautiful. And honestly, I wish they hadn't
29:16
cut to baby Yoda so much. I wanted to see more of that.
29:20
We really only got a few seconds maybe we'll get more.
29:22
I mean there's there's unlimited potential now that they've
29:25
proven that they can do it. Well maybe that's the school
29:29
where Luke and Leia are practicing and you see that last
29:33
Jedi. Like it look tropical.
29:35
I would have to not. It's a rise of Skywalker.
29:39
Oh yeah, what did I say? Last Jedi.
29:42
Now why didn't we know? That's not right, but it's /
29:45
that out. And yeah, but it honestly, dude,
29:53
I I I like the sequel's. I like them.
29:57
But this new stuff, especially this stuff with Luke makes me
30:02
dislike them even more. Like, it makes me really want a
30:06
lot more distance from them because like we're Seeing all
30:11
this. And this is why I just stopped
30:12
reading some of the comic books to because, after Last Jedi,
30:15
it's like, we're watching, Luke grow, we're watching him, learn
30:19
all this stuff in the comic books, becoming a deeper more
30:22
amazing Jedi, and it's leading to that.
30:25
I don't, I don't want to see that.
30:28
It's really hard to watch him. Being the most incredible
30:34
version of himself. So you've ever seen in Cannon
30:38
and knowing that that's ultimately where we're I just
30:41
like really hurts my heart to think of that.
30:45
I I want one of two things. I want them to either Bridge the
30:49
gaps and make it make sense, or just that's its own thing.
30:57
This is its own thing. Yeah.
30:58
Whichever Camp. You're in, be in your camp.
31:04
Like, why aren't they have to kill all of our heroes?
31:08
I don't know. You know, because like now, I
31:12
know they had a different production team they were using,
31:15
you know, JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson and all of that.
31:18
And I don't blame Kathleen Kennedy.
31:20
Like a lot of people do, she's a producer, she didn't write the
31:24
script, she probably approved it.
31:27
But whatever you like, It's Dave filoni is I felt like those the
31:36
sequel Trilogy is feel like fan fiction and they flow knee.
31:42
Feels like the person who has studied with George Lucas and
31:45
understands oh the way I did lie, it's supposed to go and so
31:49
like when he adds to the story it it builds the story.
31:54
Yes. And like, I don't understand why
31:55
the sequel's couldn't have just been this great story about Ray.
31:58
Why did it have to be actually a story about killing all the All
32:02
characters and yeah I don't know.
32:05
I don't want to turn this into a total shit talk thing.
32:07
But be like part of me feels like very sad seeing this new
32:12
content because it's so good and knowing that's where we're
32:15
headed. Just really fucking bums me out.
32:18
Yeah, I agree. I'm just trying to
32:25
compartmentalize it this point. Yeah.
32:26
Yeah we don't know what's coming and we got to enjoy it as it
32:30
comes. I don't know.
32:33
I don't know. It's true.
32:34
Yeah, it's the best way to do it.
32:37
There are some things about this episode that I didn't holy like,
32:41
I thought the voiceover was kind of slow.
32:45
Hmm. Like you knew it was a
32:46
voiceover, which is fine. I can excuse that because it's
32:52
trying to tell a story with the character that is essentially
32:55
non-existent. So, I mean, they're bringing us
32:59
the very best that they can. I mean, let's be real.
33:02
All of the Grogan merchandise that they sold in the past two
33:04
years funded that entire episode.
33:06
Yeah, so I get it. Okay.
33:08
Yeah and We're here to enjoy the story and like seeing our hero
33:16
again and seeing him be tied in with our new Heroes Heroes like
33:21
a Soca Heroes like Mando and Boba Fett and all these people
33:24
like yeah it's new with the old because of a well woven story.
33:29
Yes and there were. Was it Flawless seamless?
33:36
No. It was damn good for what
33:38
they're trying to do. Yeah, mmm.
33:40
And I wholeheartedly We enjoyed myself watching that.
33:43
Yeah, I agree. I thought the voice is very
33:45
monotone, like Mark Hamill is not a monotone person,
33:50
especially playing Luke Skywalker.
33:52
He goes that way down and up. Yeah.
33:54
Does it act it does? Yes.
33:55
We have these moments of warmth, which I really think they did a
33:59
good job of that, but they didn't have him talk, like a
34:02
normal person enough like, like, like you, I don't care.
34:07
I'm totally fine with how it was done.
34:09
I'm happy. I loved it.
34:10
I really Didn't, if you want to nitpick, that would be the
34:13
thing. I nitpick is the sound of the
34:15
voice. I still don't understand why the
34:17
fuck they're not using Mark Hamill, he is alive and do we
34:21
know? Do we know for sure that they
34:23
didn't? I mean, I don't really know, we
34:25
don't know for sure but like he sounded like an auto-tuned like
34:31
and I like I told you I listened, I re-watch the episode
34:33
with headphones on and he actually has like an electronic
34:37
hum around, some of his words and I'm sure they got Got it
34:41
like as close as they could to sounding clean but every now and
34:44
then there'd be like something. He said that.
34:45
Had that sampling like auto-tune sounds.
34:48
Yeah. So I'm fairly certain.
34:52
They took sampling from the original trilogy and use that to
34:56
like recreate The Voice, which is what they did with the last
35:00
episode of Mandalorian. Maybe.
35:02
They tried a few things in, this was the best they could do.
35:04
I mean we don't really know what they do on the yeah.
35:07
Back end. Well let me know and they say
35:09
it, like starring Mark Hamill Obviously, it was not like I
35:14
sold you the text. My dad said there was like, Wow.
35:16
Mark, you mark moves. Pretty good for being 70.
35:20
Amen. I tell you what though?
35:23
To bring that kind of character back in the manner, in which
35:27
they were brought back. I can get along with just about
35:30
anything unless it ruins the story.
35:32
Yeah. Yes.
35:33
Yeah, mmm. We had Mark Hamill in The Last
35:36
Jedi and it wasn't good. Yeah, I mean here was good, but
35:41
But the he was sorry, it was moving beautiful.
35:45
He brought me to tears have more problems with that than any of
35:48
this CGI stuff because we're more interested in the story.
35:52
Yeah, you're right. You're really.
35:53
That's 100% correct. So, again, these are our
35:56
opinions, we're not here to bash, we're just telling you, we
35:59
have our likes, we have our dislike.
36:00
Now we're just bouncing ideas around which and like with Last
36:03
Jedi I liked it. When I first saw the more I
36:06
thought about it I didn't so he to it.
36:08
I thought it was. I thought that was a fun movie
36:10
and this is very The sad and awful.
36:12
And oh my God, but then I'm the more I thought about it and no,
36:14
I didn't let the internet corrupt me, no, it's just my own
36:17
thoughts. Something sat wrong with me.
36:20
Mmm, at the end of that movie, too.
36:24
And anyway, yeah. So that yeah, the point is that
36:27
like these are our initial thoughts.
36:29
This is what we're gusting about, you know, 48 hours after
36:33
the fact. So, and I don't, I don't think
36:36
we're done yet. We're not done by any means.
36:38
I don't think so either, which I'm, I'm very excited about.
36:42
Yeah, let's talk about the little move.
36:45
The little motion that Luke uses with the force to kind of carry
36:49
baby Yoda, along with him because he can't walk fast
36:51
enough. So cute.
36:53
It was that adorably done? That was well, thought it was so
36:57
cute adorable. You know what I noticed?
37:00
And that's part of it. Like I was thinking about it's
37:04
very obviously reminiscent of Luke training with Yoda and I
37:09
just kept thinking that he is kind of like He's not like
37:14
effusive he's not being like coddling.
37:18
He's very kind. He says things like, no, that's
37:22
not how we use it, but then he would say better better, very
37:26
good. I don't know if you have ever
37:28
said, good job or like very Guild you have yelled.
37:34
I believe we're and it's just exact wording.
37:37
Exactly. So it's just like it was very
37:39
interesting to see his sweetness, just his Like sweet
37:44
nature even though he's being a good teacher, like, you know,
37:47
how teachers are where they don't, sometimes let you get too
37:50
close. They're just here to like
37:51
facilitate and let you find your way, which is what he's even
37:55
said, it's more like he's remembering then I'm teaching
37:58
him. But like just a little
38:00
kindnesses and the little gentleness.
38:01
Where is it? Like, welcome back when the kid
38:03
woke up and like, little things like that.
38:06
Yeah, that really touched my heart.
38:07
I thought that was a nice that was very to to me that was very
38:11
Luke and He wants him to talk, he asked him, don't you want to
38:16
remember? And it's all very painful.
38:19
And I know that to, to grow, you have to push past that
38:26
discomfort, right? Luke did, and though he's
38:31
dealing with basically a young very young, I mean, in terms of
38:36
whatever species right Yoda and grow you are right very young.
38:42
He's trying to get him to go past that point of discomfort
38:47
and not like get distracted or you know all this stuff.
38:50
And that's why he says don't you want to remember and kind of
38:53
goes back to that order 66, which by the way It's not a
38:58
filoni episode without some clones.
39:00
I know I was just like, oh my God, I had so meaningful.
39:04
Many, have you see them? It was in their original armor
39:07
in the armor that we see them in, in the 501st.
39:12
Yes. Yeah.
39:13
First the blue, and you didn't know why, you know, animals out
39:16
there somewhere in the background and it's yep.
39:19
Oh my God, that's seen. I felt so emotional.
39:24
I'm sure. Then when the the Jedi in the
39:25
middle, take that and then just like crumples I kept looking I
39:30
was like I'm sure there's people on the internet who know but I'm
39:32
like there's got to be clues of who they are those three Jedi?
39:37
Well yeah I mean whoo. Whoo.
39:41
I felt that in my just so many little things.
39:46
So, I guess, what do you think of Luke giving grow goo?
39:51
The choice at the very end because I've seen mixed feelings
39:55
on this, and I don't have mixed feelings on this.
39:57
I do. I have mixed you do?
40:00
Ya do tell me because It's it's like giving a child, a choice.
40:07
You know? I know he's 50 years old but he
40:11
is a baby. Yeah.
40:13
He's a, he's 1/20 through his life at this point.
40:17
Yes. Well, doesn't Luke's a a
40:20
lifetime for you? No, I'm sorry a day for you.
40:22
Is a lifetime for someone else. Meaning.
40:24
Yes man, do. I think that it's hard to give a
40:30
child that kind of choice. That's a very difficult choice
40:33
for a child to make and all the emotional connection behind it
40:36
too. Yes, I thought it was really
40:38
interesting, what he said that if you do choose that, it's okay
40:42
but know that you will be giving in to attachment to those that
40:46
you love, which I thought was very specific interesting choice
40:49
because Luke has love and attachment yes.
40:56
But yes, he knows where to draw the line on that, you know,
41:01
obviously, yeah. So we've talked about in the
41:05
past, but We know that filoni knows that, right?
41:10
Because he really understands the character.
41:13
Yeah. So it's I saw some opinions that
41:17
that's not very Luke because Luke is basically all about
41:21
attachment and stuff and I think Luke's new school and at least
41:26
new school of thought for the Jedi is that The old Jedi didn't
41:32
really have a choice. Did Obi-Wan have a choice in
41:35
becoming a Jedi? No, it's taken.
41:37
He was just taking. What about a Sokka just taken
41:41
Canaan, taken mace, the rest of them all taken?
41:45
Yeah, no choices. So I appreciate the fact that
41:50
though grow goo is very young. I think the choice is important,
41:55
and I think Luke recognizing that a choice should be made is
41:58
important. But I also, I don't think it has
42:01
to be definitive, no matter which one you choose is.
42:03
I don't think it's going to be. That's it.
42:06
I think it's important. I think it's a very
42:08
heartbreaking choice and I just kept thinking, how said it was
42:11
the like Mando couldn't see the baby.
42:13
And then the baby has to me, I get it but it's very sad bright
42:17
and it's like I understand why. But I also feel like Luke felt
42:24
doubt, you know, he said he's not really sure his heart is in
42:28
it. So why would he Horse grow goo
42:32
to keep going. And he clearly saw that he was
42:34
very mesmerised when Luke was using his lightsaber.
42:37
So he said, like here are two like visual examples of your two
42:42
lives and you should really choose.
42:44
Like now you said you wanted to come at first.
42:47
He said he you know, in Mandalorian season 2 finale, he
42:51
said he wants your permission so he gets permission.
42:55
He comes. Well maybe he doesn't want to
42:57
stay and Luke is letting him make that decision.
43:01
Yeah. Which I think is a very mature
43:04
thing to do and something that Jedi were like maybe they give
43:09
you that choice, but they also I think made you feel shitty about
43:13
if you want to leave your percent and I don't think I
43:16
don't think Luke is judging either way.
43:18
I think he's saying these are your two realities and you have
43:21
to pick when you can't really do both.
43:24
Hmm. At least not with him as your
43:26
teacher, right. Because obviously cane and found
43:31
a way to have attached. Yes.
43:33
And and and I saw, I saw people on Twitter say well in Ezra
43:38
school you don't have to make a choice.
43:40
I'm like bitch. Where's Ezra well and like in
43:42
Ezra's school I can do whatever the fuck you want and be against
43:45
Wales for fuck. Yeah.
43:46
No, no, no shade Ezra but we love Ezra but yeah if I choosed
43:51
the season about as right. Yeah.
43:53
Give me Ezra or Luke. I'm gonna choose Luke every time
43:57
so we're probably gonna go with Luke.
44:00
So this choice that Luke is essentially giving grow goo,
44:04
didn't Yoda also give Luke a choice like if you leave now and
44:09
stop your training be defeated by Vader.
44:12
You might, you know, shit like that.
44:14
Yeah and look chose his friends. So maybe in a sense baby Yoda is
44:18
going to choose his friend or his dad figure his dad.
44:21
Yeah. His dad.
44:23
Dan Or I mean and still I don't know I don't I don't know I
44:30
think he'll choose the armor. What do you think he'll choose?
44:35
I don't know, I'm really torn on it.
44:39
I think he'll probably hope. I hope he chooses the
44:42
lightsaber. Yeah, I think he will choose a
44:45
lightsaber. A lot of people.
44:49
I think would will be torn on that question.
44:52
That's my that's my one question.
44:54
I also wonder they're probably not going to answer in the next
44:57
episode I would guess probably know they're gonna go back to
44:59
Boba Fett the next episode and they won't address any more.
45:02
Luger. Grow goo until next season or
45:04
another crash. Oh Mandalorian or Ahsoka or
45:08
yeah. Yeah.
45:09
Shit. He can't.
45:11
Yeah. And who knows Cassie any
45:14
definitely Cassie. And honestly do like Cassie and
45:18
and One's shows could overlap. Absolutely.
45:22
They could the time periods. Yeah, would be in there.
45:26
So that is probably where they'll do the oh shit.
45:30
Moment in the castien show. Oh shit.
45:32
See well. Here we are.
45:33
Predicting shit. Mark it down.
45:34
Yeah. Marked it here.
45:36
We've said it first. Yeah.
45:41
I feel grateful that we got even that if we get nothing else,
45:45
Luke Skywalker. I will cling to this episode for
45:47
the rest of my life because I love the location.
45:50
I loved the feeling of, you know, hand that feeling of like
45:54
classic Samurai movies, where you go and train with your, you
45:57
know, master or whatever, and just like the scenes of
46:03
meditation, even what you were saying with the frogs like
46:06
lifting the frogs up out of the water, the hand, you know, lift,
46:09
it was like humor. ER and kindness levity is like
46:12
Greg was distracted. So he just used it as a teaching
46:16
moment to show like yes you know it was sweet.
46:20
It was very sweet and tender hearted I thought it was really
46:22
fun. I love yeah, they successfully
46:25
captured Luke's control his Precision, his knowledge and
46:30
Gift of the force. But also most importantly his
46:35
kindness. Yeah, which is why we love Luke.
46:41
And that's what we love about him.
46:42
Is that he's all of those things, but he is, most
46:44
importantly, kind. Yes, mmm, thank you, filoni and
46:49
Favreau. Yes, thank you truly, from the
46:52
bottom of our hearts. So it's your turn.
47:03
What did you think? Would you think of the episode
47:05
be honest too? Yeah, I mean we didn't love
47:08
everything but we basically did, But also, what are your thoughts
47:14
feelings? Too much, Luke, not enough, Luke
47:17
do you love Luke and Ahsoka. What do you think baby Yoda?
47:20
Will choose armor? Yes, or saber gosh?
47:23
Aunt us. Yes.
47:25
All of it. All of the above tell us.
47:27
Yes. So join us back here next week
47:30
for real, this time we're gonna use something else.
47:35
Wild happens. In the meantime group, was
47:37
another crazy episode on Wednesday and then the favorite
47:40
quotes are going to get bumped again.
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But yeah, next week, as long as there's nothing too crazy.
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In the book of Boba Fett, we will come back to our regular
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scheduled program and just talk about our favorite Star Wars
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quotes. Thank you so much for joining us
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twin May the force be with you always.