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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, September 2nd · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you don't Jack, Jack Morris? Did you
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Speaker 1: know Jack Warris drive Time? Ryan sex sext John, Actually,
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Speaker 1: Jack Warris drive Time starts right now. Really just trying
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Speaker 1: to to take the team and put the best team
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Speaker 1: together for what we've seen in our practices. So, you know,
0:26
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I just felt that
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Speaker 1: was the best decision for us as a team. I
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Speaker 1: think it gives us the best opportunity, um, with the
0:33
Speaker 1: skill sets that we have with the other players in there. Um,
0:37
Speaker 1: I just thought that that was the best for the team.
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Speaker 1: And doing it now. Um, we exhausted, you know, all
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Speaker 1: trade opportunities. We weren't able to get anything there. Um,
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Speaker 1: So I just felt that, you know, now we can
0:48
Speaker 1: you know, work on the team and the plan and
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Speaker 1: get ourselves ready for the season. Jaguars head coach Doug
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Speaker 1: Baron explained the coaching staff's decision to wave a Leonard
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Speaker 1: for Net Shocking News on a Monday morning. It was
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Speaker 1: live on our show. We found out. We talked all
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Speaker 1: about that before hearing from head coach Doug mor own
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Speaker 1: Monday afternoon. So guys, let's not harp too much about this.
1:13
Speaker 1: Bringing in Brian Sexton and John Osier. We're gonna talk
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Speaker 1: much more about this and big things for Net not
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Speaker 1: no longer with the team. But guys, Monday morning obviously
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Speaker 1: was shocking news. Brian, how is your opinion changed on
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Speaker 1: the matter now that we've heard from head coach Doug
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Speaker 1: Morrow and we've heard from running back coach Terry Robiski.
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Speaker 1: How has that opinion changed since we heard the shocking
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Speaker 1: news Monday. Well, I'll tell you what changed. So you
1:38
Speaker 1: and I had a conversation on Sunday night about Hot
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Speaker 1: Takes Right, which is a segment in the show, And
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Speaker 1: I told you the one I really wanted to do
1:45
Speaker 1: was that the Trevor Lawrence issue was going to be
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Speaker 1: the most pressing issue around the Jaguars this year. But
1:52
Speaker 1: it was a little early to bring that into play.
1:55
Speaker 1: Let's give Gardner Minshew a chance. So I went with
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Speaker 1: something and I'll unveiled that here a minute. Really, though,
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Speaker 1: when the Jaguars cut Leonard for Nett on Monday, they
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Speaker 1: put the Trevor Lawrence card into play. I know Doug
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Speaker 1: and Dave said they didn't. That wasn't their intention. Totally
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Speaker 1: get it. They can't worry about that. But this show
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Speaker 1: and shows like it, and social media will now drive
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Speaker 1: that thing forward, so it's into play, and while it's
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Speaker 1: in play, it just puts the onus even more on
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Speaker 1: Gardner minshow I mean, he already had a lot to
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Speaker 1: climb over to prove that he is a franchise quarterback.
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Speaker 1: No offseason, a different season with COVID nineteen. Now this
2:35
Speaker 1: everyone's saying, well, there's Trevor Lawrence up the road. If
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Speaker 1: it's not going to be you trust me, that's a
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Speaker 1: lot of pressure. It's one more bolder for this kid
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Speaker 1: to try and climb over, and you know, it's it's
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Speaker 1: like tying an arm behind his back. But we all
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Speaker 1: know Gardner and that's kind of the way he seems
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Speaker 1: to like it. John, I know you were definitely shocked
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Speaker 1: on Monday morning. How has your opinion changed maybe now
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Speaker 1: that we've had two days kind of try to divulge
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Speaker 1: all of this. Well, I was shocked because you figured,
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Speaker 1: if they're gonna move for net, it would have been
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Speaker 1: around the draft, to do it, after he had gotten
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Speaker 1: all the first team reps, after or not all but
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Speaker 1: a lot of the first team reps. Uh to do
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Speaker 1: it two or three weeks into training camp, it was jolting.
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Speaker 1: It was a surprise. Um, you know it the more
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Speaker 1: you think about it, Um, I get that everybody wants
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Speaker 1: to take this off the field, and I'm sure there
3:27
Speaker 1: were some off the field elements to it, but the
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Speaker 1: reality with four Nett is for the last couple of years,
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Speaker 1: he really has not been to make you miss guy.
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Speaker 1: He has not been a big play guy. And it
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Speaker 1: would not surprise me if they make up the production
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Speaker 1: that he had this regular season. So, um, it's gonna
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Speaker 1: make the Trevor Lawrence thing a factor. But I I
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Speaker 1: honestly don't believe that with Doug and Dave that they
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Speaker 1: were saying, Okay, we're going to try to get worse
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Speaker 1: so that we don't win games this year? Did did
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Speaker 1: put more onus on Gardner? Minshew? Yeah, But as Brian said,
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Speaker 1: I think he likes that, and I think the team
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Speaker 1: really believes that this will help them win. As strange
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Speaker 1: as that is for people to believe who thought that
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Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette was a bell cow player, It's definitely strange.
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Speaker 1: But now that we've heard from head coach Doug Roan
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Speaker 1: and running back coach and players, it definitely seems like
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Speaker 1: this new offensive system under Jay Gruden is more back,
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Speaker 1: more about running back through Mittie, that ground and pound
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Speaker 1: running back that Leonard four Nette was in the offensive
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Speaker 1: system that it was in two thousand seventeen. Really no
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Speaker 1: longer is the vibe here in Jacksonville. So now that
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Speaker 1: it's definitely making more sense two days into him, as
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Speaker 1: we get into big things. Big thing one is what
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Speaker 1: just happened Monday morning at the time, very shocking news
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Speaker 1: about Leonard. For net, like we've discussed, Monday went on
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Speaker 1: as a usual day of practice with meetings, but teamm
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Speaker 1: we're not shy about how surprised they were about the
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Speaker 1: news as well. Yeah, we were shocked about it. Um,
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Speaker 1: he came in the room a couple of minutes before
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Speaker 1: our team meeting and let us know that he had
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Speaker 1: got released. We didn't believe it. We thought he was
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Speaker 1: joking because you know, he laughed and jokes with us
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Speaker 1: all the time. And it wasn't really until Coach Maron
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Speaker 1: said it in the team meeting that we really believed it,
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Speaker 1: and um, you know, it was a shocker for everybody.
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Speaker 1: The move was just different that day or different yesterday
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Speaker 1: at practice, but um, you know it's the NFL and um,
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Speaker 1: we just have to rock with the decisions that's being made.
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Speaker 1: That was better in running back Chris Thompson dressing the
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Speaker 1: fre Net news. A big thing too is now what
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Speaker 1: we have covered the for net news, we are putting
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Speaker 1: it to bed breaking news over. Let's move forward now
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Speaker 1: with what this running back room is right now. Chris Thompson,
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Speaker 1: the veteran in the room, mcquell Arms said divine exebo
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Speaker 1: and James Robinson has deaf only flash and training camp
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Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie right now, but definitely it's turning heads
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Speaker 1: and camp. So running back Terry Robiski says after this
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Speaker 1: news there's a newfound drive in the running back room.
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Speaker 1: Looks like a bunch of fresh guys. You know, just
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Speaker 1: a bunch of big guy guys that's uh, that's glaring
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Speaker 1: the gold. Just one opportunity they want. They wanted an opportunity,
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Speaker 1: and I think they feel the opportunities there and a
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Speaker 1: group of guys that, um, I think a group of
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Speaker 1: guys that's ready to go meet the challenge, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: go prove themselves. And because everybody in life wants an opportunity,
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Speaker 1: I got a group of guys that's uh, that's got
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Speaker 1: a shot. They've got an opportunity here and it's uh
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Speaker 1: uh it's right before there great opportunity for all four
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Speaker 1: of those running backs now in the Jaguars running back room. Sobrian,
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Speaker 1: let's go to you. We just talked about Ja Groud
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Speaker 1: in this new offensive system, he believes in spreading out
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Speaker 1: the ball way more passing. Is now frankly obvious that
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Speaker 1: they're building this offense around Gardner minshew, And now you're
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Speaker 1: gonna go see a running act by committee instead of
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Speaker 1: that one ground and found star running back. Are you
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Speaker 1: agreeing with this move? And what do you think of
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Speaker 1: this offense right now? Well, look, I mean I understand
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Speaker 1: the move, but I disagree with the idea that Leonard
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Speaker 1: Fournette couldn't succeed in this offense. He caught seventies six
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Speaker 1: passes last year for five and twenty two yards. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it is not as if he was incapable of being
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Speaker 1: part of a passing offense. In fact, I thought maybe
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Speaker 1: he was more productive as a receiver than a runner
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Speaker 1: because it got him into the open space. He wasn't
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Speaker 1: a guy that could He didn't have the feet necessarily
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Speaker 1: to find seams and exploit them. It got him moving
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Speaker 1: downhill faster. So I don't necessarily agree. I tend to
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Speaker 1: think he isn't here anymore because of some personality issues. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, whatever the reason is. I don't buy that
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Speaker 1: he couldn't fit in this offense. I just think that
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Speaker 1: they decided, you know what, we've got a couple of
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Speaker 1: other guys. We like, we're gonna go with it, We're
7:53
Speaker 1: gonna move on, and we're gonna try to figure out
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Speaker 1: what the future is. Because I don't think he was
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Speaker 1: going to be here in in any way. Yeah, Helynne.
8:05
Speaker 1: Here's the bottom line. They didn't think Leonard Fournette was
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Speaker 1: that good. If they did, they wouldn't have cut him.
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Speaker 1: So I think they they believe that these guys James
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Speaker 1: Robinson in practice has looked as good as for Nette.
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Speaker 1: Uh As Zebos looks a good for Nette. Now that's
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Speaker 1: practice where you're non contact and all those things that
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Speaker 1: has splay out on the field. But Leonard Fournette was
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Speaker 1: not an elite back and they think they can get
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Speaker 1: a production by committee, you know, out of all this. Amazingly,
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Speaker 1: here's what Leonard Fernette did. He made a unique in
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Speaker 1: Gockaway not a news story when he got drened. Unique
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Speaker 1: being out of here will hurt. There will be games
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Speaker 1: that they don't win, or John freezing up on us
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Speaker 1: on a little on this one. Nothing we can't handle. Well. Look,
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Speaker 1: if you're looking for a reason to believe that they
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Speaker 1: can be very productive in the running back room, look
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Speaker 1: no further than Philip Lindsay, the Denver Broncos young running
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Speaker 1: back who has had a thousand yards season and has
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Speaker 1: been incredibly productive, was an undrafted rookie. So you can
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Speaker 1: find guys like that who can do things on the field.
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Speaker 1: And look, the history books of the NFL are littered
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Speaker 1: with running backs who come in and make a name
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Speaker 1: for themselves and are productive. Did they last a long time?
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Speaker 1: Are they Pro Bowl? All pro kind of players? Know?
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Speaker 1: But the player that you need the most to be
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Speaker 1: that players, your quarterback and the running acts need to
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Speaker 1: fit the system. They need to be able to do
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Speaker 1: the things that Jay Gruden wants to get done. And
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Speaker 1: he obviously thinks he can get that done with a
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Speaker 1: guy like a James Robinson, with with Zig, with these
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Speaker 1: other guys. Yeah, it's definitely a lot of options now
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Speaker 1: with the running back room and curious to see now
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Speaker 1: who takes a step forward after this Leonard for net News.
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Speaker 1: We're going to see that at practice here today and
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Speaker 1: those are our big things, all about the running back
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Speaker 1: now the last place? Definitely, if I would have caught that,
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Speaker 1: it would have been the cherry on top per se
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Speaker 1: of of the day for me. So um, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: have to look at that one on film and figure
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Speaker 1: out why I didn't come down with it because I
13:02
Speaker 1: would have completed my day personally, So I gotta clean
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Speaker 1: that up. But I am happy with, you know, the
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Speaker 1: other catches and other plays I made. But like I said,
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Speaker 1: I'm all about getting better, so I gotta continue to
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Speaker 1: get better. Um. Listen to you know coach McCardell. He
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Speaker 1: played for seventeen years. A great coach to UM, and
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Speaker 1: I'm always learning from the older receivers in the room.
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Speaker 1: Wide receiver Colin Johnson out of Texas nearly two touchdowns
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Speaker 1: and Saturday scrimmage. But we haven't had the chance to
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Speaker 1: talk a lot about Saturday scrimmage with all of this
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Speaker 1: breaking news going on. But he almost comes down with
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Speaker 1: an unbelievable catch to end the scrimmage. If you do
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Speaker 1: not know about this guy, you're going to hear about him.
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Speaker 1: Colin Johnson absolutely the standout in training camp so far
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Speaker 1: as we can into a segment of who stood out
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Speaker 1: in Saturday scrimmage. Brian, let's go to you the guy
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Speaker 1: we just heard from, Colin Johnson. What have you seen
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Speaker 1: from him? Well, look, I mentioned this when they drafted him,
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Speaker 1: but they always wanted a big red zone receiver, the
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Speaker 1: guy who could go up above everyone else and get
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Speaker 1: the fade, and they they look for that guy fifteen
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Speaker 1: years ago with Matt Jones right, and if Matt had
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Speaker 1: been able to do this, the Jaguars might have played
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Speaker 1: in another a f C championship game in the two
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Speaker 1: thousand and seventh season. So I've always been looking for
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Speaker 1: this guy. He's huge, he's got length, he has timing.
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Speaker 1: This is when he did at Texas. He knows how
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Speaker 1: and when to go and get the ball. He's got
14:30
Speaker 1: great body control. He's a top competitor. He wants every
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Speaker 1: single ball. Um. You just listen to him. Such a bright,
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Speaker 1: articulate young man, a guy who is able to tell
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Speaker 1: you what he wants to do. He's been thinking about this,
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Speaker 1: He's got his own goals. I mean, I just I
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Speaker 1: think he's the complete package. And I say that because
14:50
Speaker 1: I've watched him on special teams. And I know most
14:52
Speaker 1: people don't pay attention to special teams, but that's where
14:55
Speaker 1: this kid is really going to make a breakthrough. A
14:58
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, DJ Jark, when he was a rookie,
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Speaker 1: had a forgettable season as a receiver, but a very
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Speaker 1: memorable one as a gunner on teams. With his size,
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Speaker 1: with his length, with his speed, he got down the
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Speaker 1: field and created havoc like forcing that botched punt in
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Speaker 1: Houston on the final Sunday of the regular season. This
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Speaker 1: guy had been playing like that. If they get that
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Speaker 1: kind of contribution from Colin Johnson, right a late round pick,
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Speaker 1: that's enough this year. Everything else is gravy, and I
15:27
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have plenty of gravy to poor because
15:29
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna make some of those catches. Um, he's
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Speaker 1: been phenomenal. Everyone seeing the trick catches. I think the
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Speaker 1: special teams is the part that probably excites me the
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Speaker 1: most because it shows you that this kid is willing
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Speaker 1: to do whatever it takes to be his very best
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Speaker 1: and he eventually will be that guy in the offense. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Brian couldn't agree more. And it definitely reminds me about
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Speaker 1: two years ago with d J Chart what an impact
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Speaker 1: he made on special teams. We saw the potential with
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Speaker 1: him when he first came in here. I saw how
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Speaker 1: hard he was working on special teams. So I'm definitely
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Speaker 1: seeing some similarities there. And in that video, if you're
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Speaker 1: watching on Jaguars dot com Live, you're seeing quarterback Jake
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Speaker 1: Jake Luton, who John has for his who stood out
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Speaker 1: definitely a guy who's throwing the ball very well in
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Speaker 1: camp so far, John well, he has and he looked
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Speaker 1: good in the scrimmage, and I remember thinking, this kid
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Speaker 1: looks like the best quarterback in the field right now,
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Speaker 1: and then he threw a really bad pick in the
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Speaker 1: red zone, which tells you, Okay, he's a six round rookie.
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Speaker 1: There's still a long way to go. But the reality is,
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Speaker 1: if you didn't know who the starting quarterback was and
16:41
Speaker 1: all you did was watch practice, you would look at
16:44
Speaker 1: Jake Lewton because of his size, because the way he throws,
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Speaker 1: the arms, strength, all that stuff. Even Gardner Mitchen, he
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Speaker 1: was talking about him last week, said, this guy's got
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Speaker 1: everything scouts one in a quarterback. What you don't know
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Speaker 1: about Luton the lights haven't been on yet. There has
16:58
Speaker 1: been no real stuff going on. There's no games, there's
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Speaker 1: no defense coordinators preparing for him. So he's not the
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Speaker 1: best quarterback in camp. But he has shown more during
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Speaker 1: training camp to look good to stand out than any
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Speaker 1: quarterback I've seen around here since Gabbert. And what I
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Speaker 1: mean by that is all the quarterback stuff. Gabbert was
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Speaker 1: not good on the field once games started, but he
17:23
Speaker 1: looked the part of an NFL quarterback. No kid has
17:27
Speaker 1: looked the part of the NFL quarterback like Jake Luton yet,
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Speaker 1: So does he have that stuff on the field. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. We get a chance to find out this year,
17:34
Speaker 1: but he is sure looked good in camp and some
17:36
Speaker 1: of the balls he throws are big time NFL balls.
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Speaker 1: I got a feeling this kid at some point he
17:42
Speaker 1: is going to contribute for this team. You know, it's
17:45
Speaker 1: worth pointing out Ashland that Jake Lewton has shown more
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Speaker 1: in camp this summer than Gardner Minshew did last summer.
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Speaker 1: I mean I've said this before, but the night before
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Speaker 1: the Falcons preseason game last year, Doug Moreau thought that
17:59
Speaker 1: he told us the Gardeners still had to prove that
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Speaker 1: he was going to be the backup quarterback with a
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Speaker 1: good performance in the preseason finale, right. I mean when
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Speaker 1: he walked onto the field an opening day, I turned
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Speaker 1: to Fred Taylor, I went season sunk because I hadn't
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Speaker 1: seen anything from the kid to make me think that
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Speaker 1: he could do it. So, you know, we've seen some
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Speaker 1: really positive things. Now is John just mentioned He's absolutely right.
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Speaker 1: What we haven't seen from him is can he do
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Speaker 1: it when the game is live? I mean, Gardner Minshew
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Speaker 1: clearly proved last year that he could get things done. Um,
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Speaker 1: But Luton has stood out much more than Minshew did
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Speaker 1: in practice. Yeah. Absolutely, And I can't help but think
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Speaker 1: Johnny talk about the difference between the practice field looking
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Speaker 1: great with deep balls and then when the lights go
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Speaker 1: on a lot of times last season we were watching practice,
18:46
Speaker 1: we said, Wow, Tanner Lee throws the best ball at practice,
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Speaker 1: and we saw him in the preseason when the lights
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Speaker 1: went on, it did not translate. So very curious if
18:54
Speaker 1: Jake Luton does end up getting a chance at some
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Speaker 1: point this season, how that transfers over to a game field.
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Speaker 1: So very curious to keep an eye on that. My
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Speaker 1: who stood out, I'm going on the defensive side of
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Speaker 1: the ball. Linebacker Miles Jack was all over the running game,
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Speaker 1: especially during the first drive. Definitely Saturday's scrimmage like a
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Speaker 1: real game. Was juiced up, excited to be in the stadium.
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Speaker 1: Immediately as the ball was snapped. He was picking up
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Speaker 1: on the run very quickly along with middle linebacker Joe Schobert.
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Speaker 1: Their communication definitely is working. They need to have a
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Speaker 1: great connection. Miles Jack made multiple plays for a loss
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Speaker 1: and yards on Saturday scrimmage and seems to be extremely
19:35
Speaker 1: confident in his new role. John Bryan. I think we're
19:37
Speaker 1: not surprised at all by this. He figured once he
19:40
Speaker 1: moves over to his more fluid role in the linebacker unit,
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Speaker 1: that he was going to succeed. Brian, what do you
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Speaker 1: think of Miles Jack on Saturday? Are you talking to me?
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Speaker 1: Ashley and I couldn't hear. I am yes, of all
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Speaker 1: alone here. Well, I thought he was good, and I
20:10
Speaker 1: expect that he will be good. We've talked about this
20:14
Speaker 1: throughout the last couple of months. You're talking about a
20:17
Speaker 1: guy who is a natural playmaker. The interception in Pittsburgh,
20:22
Speaker 1: the force fumble, fumble recovery should have scored in New England. Um,
20:27
Speaker 1: it's what he does. But in the middle he was
20:29
Speaker 1: never going to have that kind of an impact. And
20:31
Speaker 1: so you know, now all of a sudden, you're gonna
20:33
Speaker 1: ask him to go and do what he does best,
20:35
Speaker 1: which is run to the football. So I would expect
20:37
Speaker 1: this year you'll see multiple interceptions, You'll probably see multiple
20:41
Speaker 1: fumble recoveries. I remember one in New York and where
20:45
Speaker 1: he picked it up off the ground and went more
20:47
Speaker 1: than seventy yards for the score. I'll go as farest
20:50
Speaker 1: to say that Miles Jack may have two or three
20:52
Speaker 1: defensive touchdowns this year. That's how strong I think he's
20:56
Speaker 1: going to be in this new role. Yeah. The the
21:02
Speaker 1: eyes of Miles Jack has been grossly exaggerated. Uh. The
21:07
Speaker 1: people are tired of hearing it, because there's a co
21:10
Speaker 1: plaint that stood out last year where he missed on
21:12
Speaker 1: But he was not as bad in the middle as
21:15
Speaker 1: everybody wants to believe. Everybody knows he was making up
21:17
Speaker 1: for guys he didn't know their assignments around him, things
21:20
Speaker 1: like that. I agree he has a chance to be
21:23
Speaker 1: outstanding a weak side linebacker. It's probably it's probably been
21:26
Speaker 1: his ideal position, and he's been taken one for the
21:29
Speaker 1: team a little bit playing out of position with because
21:33
Speaker 1: Lesny being in the middle and with Telvin Smith. So um.
21:37
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reason in the world why
21:40
Speaker 1: he shouldn't be a Pro Bowl caliber linebacker. Well, the
21:43
Speaker 1: Jaguars be good enough to get him name recognition, all
21:46
Speaker 1: this stuff. I don't know, But I don't think there's
21:48
Speaker 1: any reason in the world where he shouldn't have a
21:50
Speaker 1: huge season. Uh. Probably lines up he and Josh Allen
21:53
Speaker 1: the two favorites for a defensive m v P. Yeah,
21:58
Speaker 1: but in green Wore definitely has a new found confidence
22:00
Speaker 1: that seems much more com comfortable in this position. So
22:03
Speaker 1: very curious to see how Miles Jack plays in season.
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Speaker 1: of that later on today on Jaguars dot Com, talking
25:02
Speaker 1: about wanting to make plays. Definitely a guy that has
25:04
Speaker 1: stood out during Saturday scrimmage. A beautiful touchdown pass from
25:08
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Speaker 1: Saturday inside the stadium. As we get into some hot
25:15
Speaker 1: takes here on Jaguars Drive Time, let's go ahead. Let's
25:19
Speaker 1: start with Bryan. What do you got for us as
25:21
Speaker 1: a hot take? Well, I gave him a hot take
25:24
Speaker 1: off the top. Uh So this is the one who
25:26
Speaker 1: came up with h Tyler ipert will be the difference
25:29
Speaker 1: if the Jaguars are gonna win close games. Last year,
25:31
Speaker 1: the Jaguars and fifty four catches fewer than five yards
25:35
Speaker 1: and only three touchdowns from the tight end position. It
25:38
Speaker 1: was essentially gone once James O'Shaughnessy went down in Carolina
25:42
Speaker 1: in the middle of October. This guy by himself is
25:45
Speaker 1: capable of putting up better numbers than that. He's a
25:48
Speaker 1: lion and a gazelle, right, I mean, he's pure power
25:50
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. I think he's a terrific
25:52
Speaker 1: inline blocker. But he is effortless when he's out in
25:55
Speaker 1: the pattern. He's smooth. He knows where he's supposed to be,
25:58
Speaker 1: and he turns those hips and gets up the field.
26:00
Speaker 1: He's a guy that will move the chains, he will
26:03
Speaker 1: exploit weaknesses, create matchup problems for opposing defenses. And better
26:07
Speaker 1: than that, he's got a nose for the football in
26:09
Speaker 1: the end zone. Before injuries took their toll on him
26:12
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, he had a Pro Bowl season in
26:15
Speaker 1: where he scored thirteen times. I'm not suggesting that he's
26:19
Speaker 1: going to score thirteen times this year, but I think
26:21
Speaker 1: he might put up the best numbers for the Jaguars
26:24
Speaker 1: at the position since Mercedes Lewis did it when he
26:28
Speaker 1: had ten touchdowns, or since cal Brady had sixty four
26:31
Speaker 1: catches and nearly eight hundred yards all the way back
26:34
Speaker 1: in two thousand. Right, So those are the two hallmark
26:37
Speaker 1: seasons by a Jaguars tight end. I think he could
26:39
Speaker 1: be better than either of them. I love to hear that.
26:47
Speaker 1: Brian definitely already making plays during training camp along with
26:50
Speaker 1: James O'Shaughnessy. We saw that connection with Gardner Minshew last season,
26:54
Speaker 1: hoping that tight end room can finally get it figured
26:56
Speaker 1: out and make an impact on the field. John, you
27:00
Speaker 1: have the quarterback. Something to do with him for your
27:02
Speaker 1: hot tape. Yeah, he's got to be better than he
27:06
Speaker 1: was on Saturday. I mean it's it's uh, you always
27:09
Speaker 1: sort of couch this with Minshow by remembering he was
27:12
Speaker 1: not good in training camp last year. Uh, he really struggled.
27:16
Speaker 1: He's good when the lights come on. He's good when
27:19
Speaker 1: he's outside the pocket, making plays under duress. When it's real,
27:23
Speaker 1: he's very, very good. But you know, if you didn't
27:26
Speaker 1: know all that Saturday would have been concerning. It was
27:30
Speaker 1: the bad pick six that he threw to d J. Hayden. Uh.
27:33
Speaker 1: He did not look accurate, did not look confident. All
27:36
Speaker 1: that stuff. Now he came back and in some more
27:39
Speaker 1: truncated work, more red zone type stuff, looked very good
27:43
Speaker 1: at the end, which is what he does. If you
27:45
Speaker 1: think about a lot of his his big moments last year,
27:47
Speaker 1: came Okay, we didn't play very well in the first half,
27:51
Speaker 1: came back against Oakland, a lot of comebacks, a lot
27:54
Speaker 1: of pulling games out when you didn't think they were there. Um.
27:58
Speaker 1: The issue is it's hard to win the NFL consistently
28:00
Speaker 1: that way. He has to be more consistent than he
28:03
Speaker 1: was last year and then he was Saturday. So I
28:06
Speaker 1: believe he will, but it's gotta be better. I think
28:11
Speaker 1: we should note Ashlyn and John that he's not going
28:14
Speaker 1: to have the kind of defense that he's had. Um.
28:17
Speaker 1: Not that that defense last year was his lights out
28:20
Speaker 1: and as it had been in seventeen and eighteen, but
28:22
Speaker 1: you know, this pass rush is not going to be
28:23
Speaker 1: the same without Unique and gonk Way. I know Josh Allen,
28:27
Speaker 1: I know he was capable of, but you know offenses
28:29
Speaker 1: are gonna gear their protections towards him, which means it's
28:32
Speaker 1: gonna be Caleb and Chase on and to want smooth
28:34
Speaker 1: that's not the same, and the coverage is gonna take
28:37
Speaker 1: some time to get there too. C J. Henderson's a
28:39
Speaker 1: terrific young athlete, but he's never played it down. So
28:43
Speaker 1: if Gardner Minshew has to play from behind, right, it's
28:46
Speaker 1: a totally different game. It's gonna be interesting to see
28:49
Speaker 1: if he can do that. Yes, couldn't agree more definitely
28:54
Speaker 1: at times concerning Saturday, But John, I think he made
28:56
Speaker 1: a great point. When the lights come on, it's a
28:58
Speaker 1: totally different ball game for dner minshew. So we will
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Speaker 1: see here and just a couple of weeks one week actually,
29:04
Speaker 1: when the Colts comes down for the first game. Still
29:06
Speaker 1: not used to that, all right. My hot take has
29:09
Speaker 1: changed a little bit since Monday, but it still is
29:11
Speaker 1: around the same thing, and that is running back James Robinson.
29:15
Speaker 1: The running back committee is back, and keep an eye
29:17
Speaker 1: on running back James Robinson did not only make the
29:20
Speaker 1: team but create a major impact on this offense and
29:24
Speaker 1: in the running back room. The coaching staff really likes
29:28
Speaker 1: this guy out of Illinois State, forty four touchdowns in
29:31
Speaker 1: his college career. A workhorse of course, big impact on
29:34
Speaker 1: special teams so far. Joe d is always raving about him.
29:37
Speaker 1: You can hear him from across the field. Of course,
29:39
Speaker 1: Joji always yelling, so ah, he can't hide much from him.
29:43
Speaker 1: So yes, James Robinson making a huge impact in training camp,
29:47
Speaker 1: turning our heads for sure. I'm going as far to
29:49
Speaker 1: say in my hot take, he makes the team. He
29:52
Speaker 1: has an impact in the running back room. Wouldn't be
29:55
Speaker 1: surprised you even see him start at times. Definitely keep
29:58
Speaker 1: an eye on this guy going forward, running back by committee.
30:02
Speaker 1: But maybe this guy takes more of the workforce. Brian, Well,
30:07
Speaker 1: you know, he reminds me of a guy that we
30:08
Speaker 1: had around here named Montell Owens, who was like the
30:11
Speaker 1: ninth or tenth running back in Jack del Rio's first
30:14
Speaker 1: couple of seasons, um and and and he made the
30:18
Speaker 1: team because of special teams. And that's exactly what what's
30:21
Speaker 1: what it looks like. James Robinson's gonna do you know?
30:24
Speaker 1: Montell had some big plays here, fake punts and things
30:27
Speaker 1: like that, scored some touchdowns. Uh, you need guys like this,
30:31
Speaker 1: especially in the salary cap, right, You needed to come
30:33
Speaker 1: on and be highly productive players that don't cost a
30:36
Speaker 1: lot of money and evolved and developed. Montel became a
30:39
Speaker 1: three time Pro Bowl special teamer. Hey, if you can
30:43
Speaker 1: get that out of this kid, man, you're really doing something. Yeah,
30:48
Speaker 1: I think they're looking at this guy is a lot
30:50
Speaker 1: more than special teams. You know, I don't want to
30:52
Speaker 1: say he's gonna be the starting running back, but I
30:56
Speaker 1: think it's certainly up for consideration. I mean, he has
30:59
Speaker 1: looked very, very good. He has college, carrying the ball
31:05
Speaker 1: a lot, he's used to gaining on not just giving
31:14
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31:21
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31:23
Speaker 1: he's going to have a role in the offense as well.
31:25
Speaker 1: But a guy like that, every running back is going
31:27
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31:29
Speaker 1: and not play special teams. This kid's gonna have to
31:32
Speaker 1: make his mark on teams. Yeah. Absolutely, If running back
31:37
Speaker 1: by committee means everyone's pulling some weights, we'll see how
31:40
Speaker 1: that works. But definitely keep an eye on James Robinson
31:42
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