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AEW World Title: Are you waiting for the 'payoff' or the 'relief'? · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine. Ignition six five four three two one zero
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  Speaker 1: All engine running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the a W Fan podcast team. Tonight, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about a W hot topics and boy
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of them, and unusually, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: start out talking about Nick Wayne. Nick Wayne and Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Knight are going to New Japan to participate in their
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: super juniors tournaments. Kind of like the g One, but
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: with smaller guys. I guess is the best way to
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  Speaker 2: describe it. Now. Wayne won the Ring of Honor TV
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  Speaker 2: Championship off of Commander last week. Do you think that
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  Speaker 2: that's a good idea having Wayne win a title before
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  Speaker 2: he goes over to Japan. It represents awroh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was. It gives the title prestige.
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  Speaker 3: It lets people know, hey, this guy's a champions. That
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  Speaker 3: tells me he should go a little farther than what
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  Speaker 3: people expect. So any kind of I thought, I think
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  Speaker 3: of a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: Nick Wayne's only nineteen years old, and his claim to
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  Speaker 2: vane thus far as being the son of Buddy Matthews
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  Speaker 2: who passed away and the adopted son of Christian Cage.
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  Speaker 2: That's not a lot of notoriety. You go to Japan
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  Speaker 2: wearing a belt, you kind of stand out, especially when
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  Speaker 2: you're coming from an American company. I'm interested. It's kind
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  Speaker 2: of interesting that Night is on his way back to
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  Speaker 2: Japan so soon after leaving to come to America. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think that Uh, let me put it this way,
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  Speaker 2: do you think Buddy Matthews did I say, Buddy Matthews did?
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  Speaker 2: I was wondering why you said that. I why I
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  Speaker 2: said it is because I'm an idiot and I'm really tired. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Buddy Wayne, I'm sorry. I should have thought of Mama Wayne,
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  Speaker 2: and I wered have remembered Wayne and Nick Wayne. I said,
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  Speaker 2: Nick Wayne and Buddy Matthews. Yeah. Yeah, now that would
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  Speaker 2: be a shocker. But anyway, are any of you familiar
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  Speaker 2: with the super Juniors? I'm most familiar with the g
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  Speaker 2: One stuff, right, anybody familiar with the Super Juniors because I.
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  Speaker 4: Am not, not really, but I do find it interest
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me, I do find it interesting that Kevin Knight
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  Speaker 4: is going back to Japan to do all that stuff,
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  Speaker 4: because it seemed like there was something developing with him
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  Speaker 4: and Mike Bailey based on that backstage interaction a couple
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  Speaker 4: of weeks ago where John Kallas approached both of them,
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  Speaker 4: but he seemed to be more interested in Mike Bailey. Plus,
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  Speaker 4: you have the two of them in a tag team
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  Speaker 4: match against the Young Bucks tomorrow night on Dynamite, which
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  Speaker 4: I'll say it now, but I'll expand it more so
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  Speaker 4: in my pot pourri. I believe that should be the
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  Speaker 4: main event for tomorrow night's episode of Dynamite, because then
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  Speaker 4: you're really saying, hey, Mike Bailey and Kevin Knight are
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  Speaker 4: gonna be big parts of what we do in aaw
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  Speaker 4: And then of course you have the Young Bucks on
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  Speaker 4: the other side, but the Kevin Knight factor is the
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  Speaker 4: more interesting.
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  Speaker 3: For me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, we're gonna move on because I think this
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  Speaker 2: all kind of ties in, At least it does for me.
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  Speaker 2: There were some news earlier this past week, early past
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  Speaker 2: week or late in the week, I believe, what was
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  Speaker 2: it Thursday or Friday, that WWE had purchased Triple A. Now,
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  Speaker 2: for me, this kind of signals that WWE is going
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  Speaker 2: to be starting NXTAM Mexico. Frankly speaking, if you go
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  Speaker 2: look at Triple A's roster, you really don't have that
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  Speaker 2: many people on the roster. I mean, I think there's
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  Speaker 2: twenty five people in the company total. I mean we're
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  Speaker 2: talking wrestlers, ring announcers, cameraman, you know, trainers, whatever. There's
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  Speaker 2: not that many people in the in the company. So
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  Speaker 2: but WWE knows what they're doing. Kevin Kelly, the former
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  Speaker 2: Ring of UH New Japan announcer, UH television broadcaster and
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  Speaker 2: UH of course was the well he was the initial
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  Speaker 2: UH broadcaster for AW Collision, made a statement that w
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  Speaker 2: W should also purchase CMLL and New Japan Pro Wrestling. Well,
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  Speaker 2: look at it this way. A W has announced Grand
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  Speaker 2: Slam Mexico, UH working with CMLL, and of course, if
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  Speaker 2: you've been paying attention to Ring of Honor, there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of crossovers on Ring of Honor between CMLL
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  Speaker 2: and Ring of Honor a W, so that relationship is
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  Speaker 2: pretty solid. I'm really interested speaking specifically of Grand Slam
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  Speaker 2: Mexico and CMLL and maybe WWE's NXT Mexico.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Which company do you think benefits the most meeting AW
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  Speaker 2: Ring of Honor, CML, Triple A or WWE. Who gets
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  Speaker 2: the biggest benefit out of all this?
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  Speaker 5: Me Triple A because most likely this marks the beginning
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  Speaker 5: of the end of Triple A. It'll be absorbed in
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  Speaker 5: and it will no longer exist. So if they rename
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  Speaker 5: it Nxteam Mexico or NXT Triple A or whatever they
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  Speaker 5: rename it, it's no longer going to be the same company.
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  Speaker 5: So they're not getting any kind of benefit out of
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  Speaker 5: it at all, at least not to me. They would
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  Speaker 5: also get the exposure to North America, right, So there's
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  Speaker 5: that aspect as well well. And then the thing about
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  Speaker 5: if they keep saying, well, we should buy they should
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  Speaker 5: buy CMLL and New Japan too, they all had that's
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  Speaker 5: a that's a that would be a very slippery slope
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  Speaker 5: because Triple A, c m L, c MLLL have a
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  Speaker 5: huge rivalry and they have issues with each other. Outside
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  Speaker 5: of that they keep them from Like I know, there
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  Speaker 5: were a few times that they were wanting to have
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  Speaker 5: aw want to have both company people working, and they
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  Speaker 5: couldn't do it because of that. So I don't see
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  Speaker 5: that ever happening. I don't think that, to be honest
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  Speaker 5: with you, I don't think WWE benefits about buying either
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  Speaker 5: of the other two companies because it doesn't give them
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  Speaker 5: the only reason that I could see that Triple that
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  Speaker 5: that Triple H and Company wants to buy Triple A
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  Speaker 5: is to try to guidey foothold into what a A
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  Speaker 5: W and C M l L had. They both have
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  Speaker 5: a very good working relationship with each other, and it
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  Speaker 5: kind of pushes A or WW out of it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know their roster very good, but
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  Speaker 3: I think this means that WWE has access to the Kingo,
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  Speaker 3: which we can kiss him goodbye? Who used to He
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  Speaker 3: needs to be on a show on AW quite a bit,
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  Speaker 3: but that's no no talent that much. So who are
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  Speaker 3: they really getting out of this deal? Though I don't
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  Speaker 3: know their roster very well?
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  Speaker 2: Well, again, the roster is basically the Kinko. Uh, that's it. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I certainly looked at the roster over the weekend, and
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  Speaker 2: I you know, I'm not I don't profess to be
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  Speaker 2: an expert in you know, the Mexican wrestling culture, but
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know anybody other than VI Kingo. And to
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  Speaker 2: be frank with you, had he not wrestled on a A
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  Speaker 2: W t V, I probably would NOVA can go at
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  Speaker 2: all so and I can say the same thing, it's
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  Speaker 2: pert CMLL you know, meaning that I really only know
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  Speaker 2: the CMLL wrestlers from the ones that wrestled in AW
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  Speaker 2: like you know at Cicero, Atlantis, Junior, Mistico, things like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know wrestlers like that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm same, listen, man, That's how I feel.
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  Speaker 2: And isn't the the that wrestler I can't pronounce his name? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: isn't he a champion right now? I? I guess maybe
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  Speaker 2: just guess, Yeah, I know, I looked it up. I
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: did look it up, and Triple A has eight championship
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  Speaker 2: belts right now. I I didn't really pay attention like
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  Speaker 2: of what they are, but Pikinko has a good chance
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  Speaker 2: of being one of them because frankly speaking, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the wrestlers that wrestle, they're not on the roster.
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  Speaker 2: But that's fine because look at a like I believe
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  Speaker 2: it's is a GCW that they don't have any wrestlers
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  Speaker 2: on the roster, but they put on banker shows at
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  Speaker 2: least I don't think they do.
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  Speaker 3: One other things that contract? What's that GCW didn't have
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  Speaker 3: contract per se like most time right.
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  Speaker 2: Right they did? I think their last contracted employee left
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  Speaker 2: in late twenty twenty four I forget who it was,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, they they left and from that point on,
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  Speaker 2: GCW didn't have any any kind attracted employees wrestlers. But look,
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  Speaker 2: I mean they're well respected and people want to wrestle.
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  Speaker 2: There nothing wrong with that. One other thing that was
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  Speaker 2: interesting that broke today is that Double or Nothing, the
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  Speaker 2: Ring of Honor pay per view that was supposed to
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  Speaker 2: take place next month is now going to take place
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  Speaker 2: during All In Week. I believe it's taking place on
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  Speaker 2: the Friday before All In and it's going to be what's.
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  Speaker 3: That you said, double or Nothing?
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  Speaker 2: Oh God, I did ring with Supercart of Supercart of Honor, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and honestly, I'm not drinking. I'm not drinking that. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just really tired, but.
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  Speaker 5: Me beforehand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but look, so Supercard of Honor is going to
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  Speaker 2: be an All In Texas week, and it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be in the Esports Arena, where of course AW held
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  Speaker 2: all of their shows prior to their road to All
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  Speaker 2: In last year, and I believe Supercard of Honor was
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  Speaker 2: also held at the Esports Arena last year. I have
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  Speaker 2: my doubts about the Esports Arena and whereas that in Arlington, Texas,
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  Speaker 2: I believe it is. But those shows were really cool.
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  Speaker 2: I really liked the shows that they had at the arena,
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  Speaker 2: in that arena, and that's it's not arena, I believe it.
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  Speaker 2: They actually call it Esports Stadium. So I spoke misspoke
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  Speaker 2: yet again. But one of the things that I think
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  Speaker 2: that ties in with that is that being in Texas,
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  Speaker 2: DCMLL wrestlers are known more. If there's any place in
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  Speaker 2: the United States that knows the CMLL wrestlers, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be in the Southwest, you know, and you know Texas,
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  Speaker 2: New Mexico, Arizona, Uh, the ass end of California. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what to say, but anyway, Yeah, so you're
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  Speaker 2: so that's gonna be good because they'll get a reaction
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  Speaker 2: when they come out. I guarantee you that they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: come out. And I mentioned earlier that I thought all
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  Speaker 2: this tied into Commander. Commander was the Ring of Honor
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  Speaker 2: TV champion lost the title to Nick Wayne last week.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely see him going into Supercart of Honor and
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  Speaker 2: winning the championship back.
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  Speaker 5: I really do, because Wayne probably he dropped the title
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  Speaker 5: with Send the Supers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they put that. I really do feel
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  Speaker 2: like they just put the belt on Nick Wayne because
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: he was going over to the super Juniors. Look, Dow
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  Speaker 2: Japan knows Kevin Knight. They don't know Nick Wayne from anything.
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  Speaker 2: Most American wrestlers don't know Nick Wayne from anything. We're
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  Speaker 2: wrestling fans, I mean, so probably wrestlers too, So you know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think that that is, uh is prevalent.
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  Speaker 2: So how know is having Super Card of Honor and
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  Speaker 2: all in what two days apart? Do you think that's
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  Speaker 2: a good thing? Or is that a mistake?
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it's doing that.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like w WWE is doing that currently with
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  Speaker 2: n XT having their shows so close together.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that's my feeling, Like, that's what I'm getting
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  Speaker 3: out of it.
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  Speaker 2: W WE have this this this weekend rollins. Well, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: they had SmackDown, they had UH, they had the NXT thing.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was called Scan Delivery Delivery.
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  Speaker 6: It was literally the same day as WrestleMania Night one.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Right, they had the Hall of Fame inducted induction ceremony,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: They had WrestleMania Night one, they had WrestleMania Night two,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: and they had and Raw. So there were six different
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: tonight and of course there's there seven different wrestling shows
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: WWE wrestling shows. Well, six wrestling shows have won award
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  Speaker 2: ceremony since Friday. Of course, that means you probably got
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  Speaker 2: maybe three and a half hours to four hours worth
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  Speaker 2: of actual wrestling. Uh And then I said that as
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  Speaker 2: a but it's the truth. Yeah, somebody posted it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they had these gigantic shows and they had eight hours
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: of eight hours shows and less than four hours of wrestling.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I don't understand how you can have charge people thousands
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: of dollars to go to your shows and I give
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: them wrestling. I mean, what I.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: Can't understand is people were dumb enough to pay for that.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I don't understand that, honestly.
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  Speaker 6: I'll say it like this, WrestleMania set the bar so
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  Speaker 6: low all double nothing has to do is just step
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  Speaker 6: over it, and you know what they'll do instead jump
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: way over it, like you're telling you're telling me that
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: WrestleMania I got let's see a Grande Americano versus Ray Bennett.
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: But last week's episode of Dynamite, I got Skate Takeashta
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  Speaker 6: versus will Asprey.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well look you know, yeah, we had we had
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: a private conversation about it about WrestleMania weekend and uh,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: and you know, the gist of it was is that
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: russell Mania was very, very very good for a w
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: because really just disappointed. I mean, I mean, I I
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: am a moderator of a top mod at Greatness of Wrestling,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: which is predominantly a w W e H subreddit, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: it was just dad over there. I mean, nobody was
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: talking about anything. I mean, I think the apathy, the
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: apathy for I mean, of course you had the trolls
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: come out and which is a shame, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have a strong build to wrestle Mania.
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  Speaker 3: They you know, uh, people were saying that that Dynamite
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  Speaker 3: was the best wrestling show that week.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it listens if you listen to all the
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: talk with me and something something we had We thought
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: that the Dynamite was good last week, but it had
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: its issues.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Somebody, somebody in the chests that are in the
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: on the uh yeah, in the chat room, said that
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: they thought it was one of the best Dynamites of
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: the year. And I'm thinking it might have been a
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: good Dynamite, but it wasn't spectacular, not for what it
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: could have been. But I could I find that hilarious
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  Speaker 5: If there's people saying that it was the best show
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  Speaker 5: of the week when you had so much stuff from
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  Speaker 5: WW that, that's just funny to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that last week's Dynamite was fine. Now
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: look a W has put on what I what are
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: called pay per views on TV? You know, last week's
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Dynamite was not that it wasn't a pay per view
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  Speaker 2: worthy show. It was a good show. It was a
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  Speaker 2: strong show.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: What did are you from? Elside?
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: We got Mercedes Day versus Atheta. We ended updating Hangman
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: out a Page versus Josh Alexander. As I said, we
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: got will asp Ray versus Kudo Skate Takashta, the triple
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: the trios title match was fantastic. How is that not
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  Speaker 6: a pay per view quality Dynamite? Plus we got everything with.
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  Speaker 5: Jas because the first match of the Knight ended in
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: a roll up, the second match of the Knight ended
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  Speaker 5: in a roll up. The best match in the night,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: The best match in the night was the Questa versus Ospray,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: and the amount of the thing that went into the
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: trios match was great because of what happened, But it
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: was nowhere near no, we're near the pre what was
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  Speaker 5: the paper view. The last pay per view for a
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  Speaker 5: WW or AW was Diagnosty. They had much better shows
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  Speaker 5: before Dynasty on Dynamite than they've had since then. It's
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  Speaker 5: gone completely back to the way it was before with
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: the type of thing. There was nothing about last week's
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: show that made it spectacular except for the Kestian Ospray match.
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  Speaker 5: That's the only one that was really great.
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: He must have been broken.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: What the heppened?
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Dude?
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  Speaker 5: Dude, When you have a women's match between your two
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: best women and you ended in a roll up, I
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: don't care if it was an athletic roll up or
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: a rag.
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  Speaker 2: That's not fair though. I mean, you're talking about it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: You're talking about something that lasted three seconds in a
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: ten minute match. I mean, I know you hated it,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: that's fine, but you can't discount what they did in
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the ring because of that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Well, the point the point comes back to with the
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: roll ups and stuff. Like my son just said to me,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: they're they're doing it too much. You had the women's
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: champion retain her title with a roll up in the
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: last paper and you're doing it all the time. It's
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: started to become instead of AEW wrestling, it should be
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: called aw roll ups because that's what they're doing.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: But you know, you you.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: You know, you can say half the show last week
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  Speaker 5: was spectacular the other half, so so if it would
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: have been if you had it didn't even have to
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: be a finisher. If you have a wrestling move, a
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: power slam or a DDT or something that ends the match,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: a roll up is the most pathetic way out of
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: a match. And because it was Athena and Monette, it
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: should have been the best match on the card.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard that all good, but it wasn't about that match,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if I agree with your take that.
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  Speaker 3: But they said it was one of the best matches
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  Speaker 3: she's put on.
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  Speaker 5: It was a good match. It was a match both
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: did will when they had a great match. Athena had
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: a great match, and then the booking said we're gonna
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  Speaker 5: roll this up and we're gonna end this great match
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  Speaker 5: in a stupid clue ending. And I'm sorry, I don't
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  Speaker 5: agree with that at all. If you're gonna do roll ups,
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  Speaker 5: what's the point in having the match, especially go almost
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: to half an hour.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: So let me ask you that, Let me ask you
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: this that if Jamie Hayter versus Chris Scattlander, which is
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: happening next week on Dynamite, if that match ends in
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: a roll up, are you gonna say it was a
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  Speaker 6: bad match.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Yes, because it ends in a roll up. It has
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: nothing to do with the participants. It could be it
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: could be anybody in the match. If you have been matched.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: It goes to half an hour between your two supposed
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: best women on your two rosters, the two champion on,
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: both of them both undefeated, and you ended in a
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: roll up. What is the point in making it go
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: a half an hour? You wasted twenty nine minutes and
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: nine and fifty seven seconds to do a freaking roll up?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: What was The roll ups are a blight brought upon
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: a w by Orange Cassidy.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Let's say you say that.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Even Simon Miller has a has a T shirt that
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: he wears that say, you know, that's exactly what he's
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: talking about. And I agree with you, Sadden, that having
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: a roll up does diminish the match. Me, it says
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: to me, Okay, you said it over and over and over.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Again, But what I'm gonna say was it says to
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: me that you don't have faith in your wrestlers to
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: be able to provide a good finish. That's what it
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: says to me.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Not I totally disagree with you.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I disagree with you on that one side.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: To me, they're gonna run back Athena versus Mercedes at
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: all in. They're gonna have Athena or I'm sorry, Mercedes
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: is already in the finals. I would have her face
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: Chris Statlander because, in my opinion, Scotlander has outside of Athena,
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Statlander has given Mercedes the best match or matches. I'm sorry.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: I personally I want to see Scatlander versus Tony Storm
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: at all in. That's just me though, But I think
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: when we get to double or nothing, because that's where
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: they're doing the tournament finals, Athena is going to cost
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Mercedes the fot that that match.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Okay. That for the way, there's no outside interference, there's no.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: That's for the Continental Classic, not for.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: The There is no outside interference allowed in the Owen.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: They have not had any outside interference in any of
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: these matches. They've had people on the side, but not
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: one person has been interfered with in the match. It's
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: a rule in this tournament.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: I don't believe it is.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, Rollin's you're wrong.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: You haven't heard that rule.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I haven't heard that rule.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: But anyway, I wanted to go back to what what
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Sutton said about the roll ups because there is no
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: outside interference allowed in the owen. One of the things
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: that uh it takes away from a match is that
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: it kind of forces a clean pinnich. Well, they didn't
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: do a technically a clean finish because Mercedes won the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: match with a roll up. So now there can be
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: an argument like, you won the match on a roll up,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: you want it on a shit move? You know, I
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: want to rematch. That's where I think they're going to
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: go with this, because look, I'm gonna say this right now,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and I've said this before, and I remember when Hangman
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Adam Page and John Moxley were doing her thing and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: they had the third match and it was that death
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: match or whatever it was, and I was on this
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: podcast I think I mentioned this last week, and I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: was saying, I don't want to see this match. I'm
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: tired of seeing these two goes. And then they went
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: out there, maybe e Crow because they put on one
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: of the most spectacular matches I've ever seen in my life.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: But where I'm going with this is that where I'm
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: going with this is that sorry about the interference and
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: all the noise, guys, where I'm going with this is
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: is that we seem to be having a strong possibility
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: if Tony, I mean, if Chris Statlander wins her match
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: on Dynamite against Jamie Hayter, then we're going to have
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: at double or nothing Chris Statlander and Mercedes Monet three.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: And I'm kind of in the same situation. I know
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a good match, and I'll probably
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: thoroughly enjoy the match, but I'm kind of rooting for
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Jamie Hater on this one tomorrow night because I just
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: want to see Mercedes against somebody else at taking nothing
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: away from Mercedes and Statlander's previous matches because they were fantastic,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and again I'm sure they would put on another great match,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: but I kind of want to see Jamie Hayter. I
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: don't worry nothing. Totally agree.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that too. I think Jamie Hater
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: needs to push, but I just don't know if she
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: wants pushed right now to that level. And but think
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: about it though. H Tony Storm and Jamie Hater have history, correct.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yes they do. They they were the history between the
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: tours basically with well they what what the outcasts were
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: going on. I mean, Peter was one of the idiotic, good, fake,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: good guy faces that were getting the crap beat out
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: of them every week because they were too stupid to
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: have back up. Uh, it was yeah, it was just
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: it was that. I mean that whole thing that was
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: to me the Storm and Hater thing, and it was
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: mostly Storm and Rosa that have history and uh, you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: to me that was a convoluted mess. That was when
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: the women's division had the talent but didn't have the story.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: So but then that leaves Athena. You know, Athena lost
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: in the Owen. So now she's kind of on an
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: island by herself. And I think a lot of people
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: will agree with me when I say, you know, I
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: don't particularly want Athena's time having matches in ae W
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: T B over Yet you guys feel that way.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: You know, she's a talent for sure, and I think
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: she'll she'll stay and she'll find a way to stay around.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know how long it's going to be or
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: gonna work it out, but she shook him over by
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: all In and stay.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean look, I mean I could think of
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: nothing better personally. If it wasn't at double or nothing
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: in the finals of the Owen, it would be Jamie
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Hayter and Mercedes Monette, with Hater winning and having Athena
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: challenge Mercedes Monett for the TBS title at all In.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: So that's really that's really the only way that the
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: only way it's gonna happen is Berman and I think
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: we just we talked about this last week for those
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: of us, for those of you were here last week,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: we pretty much all agreed, Please God do not let
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Mercedes Monette win another title.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this way if if I don't see Hater
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: beating Monette in the final, because I don't see them
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: having Monette's beating first lost going to Hater. There's there's
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: no history between them, it doesn't I mean, I get
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: what it would be putting Hayter in against Tony Storm,
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: but they didn't really have a rival. We they were friends,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: So putting them together because they have a history doesn't
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: make any sense. Not for aw.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Well, where is where is JB? Hayter from She's from England.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Right, and I think that would make more sense for
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Glasgow or the Forbidden Door in London, that would make
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: more sense to have them have a match there, being
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: there both from there. But I mean, I get what
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: you're saying.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: If Jamie Hayter beats Mercedes Monet at double or nothing
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and then goes on to face Tony Storm at all
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: In and she's not going to win at all in?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: What Tony? What Jamie Hayter beating Mercedes Monet in a
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: non title match does is set up maybe even a
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: let's just say that at all in Athena beats Mercedes Monet,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: but Mercedes Monett is still gonna have the n JPW,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: you know strong Women's Champion and she's still gonna have
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: the REP Pro champion. Rep Pro is an English promotion.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Why not have Jamie Hayter against Mercedes Monett at.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Well at a REP Pro show?
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Well, well you can do you not necessarily a Red
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Pro show. Well you got Forbidden Door in London. Uh,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: You've got you know, the Glasgow show as well, have
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: them have that match there. You know, that's take ahead.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: You got to promote and make people want to go
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: out buy those tickets.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I know everyone wants to see Tony Storm versus Mercedes Monette.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I I do not want to. I honestly can say
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I love Tony Storm and I really love
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Mercedes Monette. I think they're both doing exemplary work, especially
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: with promoting a W. I just don't want to see
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the match. I do not want to see them. There's
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: too too many titles in the match. I'm sorry, there's there's.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: No one situation basically.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I you know, and like I said you know before,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I mean if if a w's long goal here is
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to have Mercedes Monet uh win against Tony Storm, I
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: think that's a huge misjudgment. Yeah, but I will also
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: say having Tony Storm defeat Mercedes Monet is a huge misjudgment.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I just don't think how did she get to that
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: point yet? I think all.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Of that.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Is in Athena's home state, and I really think that's
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: the place to to make to make Mercedes Monet lose
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: because her some of her biggest matches have happened in Boston,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: and now Athene gets a chance, it could good chance
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: in her home state to take the TBS title and
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: cause her her fir big loss, you know.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: But don't you think that. Look, we've always we've seen
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the big wins from the hometown heroes coming back, you know,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: whether their faces or or heels. We've seen it before.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I kind of don't want to see that. I kind
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: of like to see, Uh, something happened for Athena in
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: a w at double or nothing and let her if
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: she's going to go to all In, have her going
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: to all In as a champion. Don't have her go
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: to all In as trying to win a belt, because
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: if she wins it, it's this kind of obvious. That's
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: my whole argument for that.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but there's no belt that she can take into
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: all In because she's not going she's not going to
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: get to face she can't face Monet at double or
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: nothing because Monette is going to face whoever wins this
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: other side, and another person in the women's side has
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: got a belt, is Tony.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Don't forget. Don't forget that there are these two shows
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: called Dynamite and Collision that something can happen at you
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: never know. So, speaking of championship belts, I got a
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: kind of a two edged question for you, Double or
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Nothing is coming up pretty soon. I mean it's right
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: around the corner. Who faces John Moxley for the a
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: W World Championship. That's one question, and the second question
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: is take care.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Joe problem. He called Mojo out, so I don't know
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: when that's gonna happen.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: But well, he submitted him. I mean, well, well, I
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: guess you can't say he submitted to me put him
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: out to get him the TRUEX title. So that's that's
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: your setup for double or Nothing, And that will probably
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: be one of the best matches you could have between
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Samo Joe and John Moxley. I mean, they're they could
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: fight each other all night long. Mm hmm, and it will.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: I think it will be a good match.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: But but but surely all know the ending. But uh,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: that's the problem, right.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, it should be this, you know, it should
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: be the final match of the evening on zero hour.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: That's my that's my feelings about it, because I honestly
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: would be very happy to never see John Boxley defend
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: do a stupid defense of this belt ever again. Well,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I said belt. I meant briefcase.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, briefcase, great grief case. I just those who will
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: fight have a good fight and stuff. As you guys
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: can tell from last last week, the Death Riders are
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: have You know, they lost that trio title and I
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: think they're weakening. But I don't know how they're going
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: to play it out with the Moa jo and I
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: hope it's not another stupid interference. They got to make
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: him look strong somehow, so I don't know how they're
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: going to do.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: That makes make some modes. It looks strong, uh that
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: I think that's the That's not that's not what's gonna happen.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: This could be the end of the They they've already
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: set up for the Death Riders to fail. The team
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: that he now has with him is Shebata and Hobbes.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: That's not Hook and Hobbes or Shabbata. That's not any
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: of the people that have been helping others. That's not FDR.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: That's that's three very very good people. This is different
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: this time. The whole them taking their titles off the
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: Death Riders is the beginning of the end of the
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: Death Riders.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Do you think ma could lose nothing?
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: He could the space it's been going on, and if
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: we're if we were right in the beginning. What's that?
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: So then it would be some Joe taking on the
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: winner of the Owen could.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Be okay, who remember wins the Owen. If you're going
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: to put a tournament together to have a winner for
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: a title, especially on the men's side, because the men's
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: side has been held for almost a year, you want
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: it to be. It doesn't have to be Moxley that
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: faces that person. They could take it off of him
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: with Joe and have whoever ends up face whoever ends
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: up winning the Owen be the one to Joe could
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: be another transition. He's done it before, he could do
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: it again. He'd be a transition winner. That's the last
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: time he didn't have the title for very well.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I think Osbrey being the guy who beat Moxley would
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: be phenomenal for him and AW. I don't think Tomoa
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Joe winning it again would help Tomoajoe or AW.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I agree with you and disagree with you, MK, and
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you why I agree with you.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with you that Will Osprey defeating John
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Oxley would be great for AW. However, will Ospray defeating
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: John Moxley for the AW World Championship all in in
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: July is too goddamn long to wait. I agree, you
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: know this, this whole aw World Championship thing, whatever you
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: want to call it, is and has been the absolute
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: weakest part of a w programming for months. Yeah tell
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: me when I'm telling lies.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: But the few between Ospray and Moxley will be good enough,
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I think, in my opinion, to hold you over until July.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: I really do I have enough trust and hold over.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I don't be a good match.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Well for me personally, when the death Writers come on TV,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I either do something else or a change a channel.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: And I personally and I personally don't If it does
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: come down the Will Osprey and John Moxley. As much
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: as I like will Osprey, I will not watch that match.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: As long as Moxley has the title and the death
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Writers are still a thing, I will not watch the matches.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: It is preposterously boring and redundant, repetitive, just like me,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: because I'm saying the same thing over and over again
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: week after week. You know. And poor Tony Kahan thinks
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: that it's a compliment that we're talking. We're talking about
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: this and I'm not talking about this podcast, but he
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: he goes on social media. He obviously checks you know,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Twitter and Instagram and read it and whatnot. Because he said,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: you know, the conversations are great. No, they're not everything
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: about the shows. Everything was great about Dynamite accept I'm
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: looking forward to everything on Collision except and the accept
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: is the Death Writers and John Moxley.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Really he's seeing things that you're not because it's not
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: been as bad. I mean, I get the fact that
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: people don't like it, but there's always something on a
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: show you don't like. I couldn't stand Jay Cargill still,
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: what's it even though I knew what was going to
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: happen because it's part of the show. People are watching
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: the shows. They're not tuning out, they're not going away.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Some are, but not all. So he's you know, he's
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: not wrong saying it's working because people are talking about it.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: If nobody talked about the Death Writers ever, they never
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: said a word about it, good or bad, they never
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: said a thing about it, then it wouldn't be working.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: But we're talking about it. People talk about it. If
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: it's hatred towards it, it's hatred towards it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: But there's a difference. It's not it's doc k fab hatred,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: it's shooting hatred. It does matter, but people don't like
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: your most important thing. That's well, that that something that
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: used to be the most important thing in AW, meaning
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: the AW World Championship belt, which out of the eight
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: belts that are in AW, I honestly feel that the
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: AW World Championship is the least relevant belt and least
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: significant belt in the entire company right now, because well, honestly,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: we haven't seen it, and the briefcase is stupid.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: You know, it's I'm sorry, but but I understand their
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: videos that they have on YouTube of it is getting
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: millions of hits and the fans seeming a crowd, seemed
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: to like. So I think it's a disconnect between what
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: the internet like and what reality and what the fan see.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: You can't just you can't put a disconnect between the
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: two because the people who are watching those videos and
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: the people that are attending those shows are the people
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: that are saying, hey, we boo them. Think about Think
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: about when when at at the when the w W,
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: the w c W and n w O had their
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: match and Hogan turned. Everybody hated that when it first happened,
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: didn't make it. Didn't take it that it was a
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: bad thing. Turned out to be one of the best
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: things in the beginning.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you a questions some because
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: I was there, you know, watching with everybody else. You
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: know what that that generation when Hogan turned, Yeah, people
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: hated it. How long till how long after Hogan turned
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: did the ed WO become arguably the biggest thing in
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: professional wrestling?
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Immediately? I mean they started the next raw or the
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: next raw, the next raw, they started on the next
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: nightro I mean.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: They were popular and everything, right.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: It became popular. And like I said, if you've got
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: if you've got videos being shown on YouTube that are
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: getting millions of hits, I don't think.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: They're getting millions, And they're not. They're not getting millions
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: of hits.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: You can look at him. I mean, if you go
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: look at him and they're saying, even if they're getting
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: fifty thousand hits, that's fifty thousand people that went and
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: watched that. Okay, that's fifty thousand people saying, Hey, we're
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: enjoying it enough that we're gonna look for it on
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: YouTube and we're gonna watch it.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Well, it makes sense.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: He's not wrong, because he knows you don't.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Don't repeat yourself again. You've already said it. I asked
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: you not to repeat yourself again because you said it
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: like eight times now. But my point is, but I
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: made the point about the nw O. When Hogan turned,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the nw O immediately became arguably the most popular thing
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: in professional wrestling and literally carried w c W for months,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: for months, right, and then when Bill Goldberg beat I think,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Lucer beat Hogan or Goldberg beat
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Hogan first, but.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: What's that Luger beat Hogan finally, yeah.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Not staying Goldberg.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Huh, Goldberg the championship.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: But Goldberg beat him for the championship too. I just
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: don't know who.
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: Won basically the But my point is.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: But my point is is that when Luger won and
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: when Goldberg won, the crowd response and everything was incredible.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I do not believe, first of all, that the John
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Moxley briefcase incidents have had anywhere near the same kind
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: of effect that the nWo and Hogan turning has had
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: a professional wrestling And I do not believe that when
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: somebody wins eventually, hopefully God, I hope so somebody eventually
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: beats John Moxley. I don't think it's gonna get the
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: same type of reaction. Understand, I think people are gonna cheer.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I believe people would cheer, but it's not gonna be
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: a joyful cheer. It's gonna be cheer for thank it's
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: finally effing over. I feel.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I feel I'll be there live, and I'm not gonna
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: be cheering you. Yeah, I will be paying what's attend
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: to that match and most matches there.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm just saying, you know, come on.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: It's going to be the exact opposite of what the
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: nWo was. This started out a little bit better, but
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: it ended up whoever wins the title, regardless of whether
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: we think they're going to be cheered or not.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, you're saying to me that you think
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: did you just say that the John Moxley title reign
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: started better than the nWo.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: No, I said it started to like the n W
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: O it's going to it started out better than it's finishing.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: It's doing the exact opposite of what the nWo did.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: Everybody hated the nWo when it started, and then they
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: started to love him. Everybody was happy with Maxley winning
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: the title and then they started to hate it. No
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: matter who wins the title from Moxley, it's going to
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: be huge. Whether it be Joe, whether it be Osprey,
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: whether it be Kenny, whether it be Darby, it doesn't
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: matter who wins it. It's going to be huge. It's
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: gonna be huge.
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: Okay, saying that over and over again, Look again, is
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: it gonna be I'm gonna ask you this. Is it
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: gonna be huge because it's a joyful moment or is
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: it gonna be huged because it's a relief that the
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: fans don't have to put up with this ship anymore.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: It's going to if if Osprey wins the title, it's
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: going to be used because it's Ospray. If Joe wins
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: the title, it's gonna be huged because it's it's Joe.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter that this is ending the Death Riders.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: It matters who wins the title.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: See, and I totally disagree with you.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: I'll just say that you have to restart the whole
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: title and the feel of it. And I feel bad
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: whoever wins it because the win will totally be out
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: of the sales of that championship.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: My point is is that pick pick Eddie wrestler, Eddie
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: wrestler on the men's in the men's division in a
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: w and have them win that championship. I think the
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: sire relief would just be just as big as if
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: it was Oscar or Joe. People want to see this
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: over yeah, period. At they at this point, and I'm
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: one of them. At this point, I don't care. It's
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: not who wins it, it's win.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: So on the for the five minute thing that they
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: did with John Moxy and the Death Riders on YouTube
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: from Collision last week, there are two hundred and thirty
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: thousand views on that five minute segment when when they
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: came out to the ring and she took the microphone
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: off the announcer. There are two hundred and thirty thousand views.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: That's not that's not Piddley views. That's a lot of
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: freaking views. In comparison to when they had the don
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: callis family comes out and get they when Bretta came back,
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: only one hundred and sixty five thousand because people bro okay,
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: but but okay, so but.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: You just you just made my point.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: No I didn't. I made my point two hundred and
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: thirty thousand people are watching the John Marxley death Rider
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: stuff on YouTube two hundred and thirty thousand. Okay, so
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: at seventy thousand more than watch the other thing, then, yeah,
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: that I see. The only one on here I see
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: that has any more views than them is the MJF
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: trying to buy brid Theharsing get, but they only had it,
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: only has two hundred and seventy seven thousand, and people
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: were far more invested in in JF than they are
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: death riters according to everybody else. But apparently the death
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: Riders are getting a hell of a lot of people
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: to watch them.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Well, my point is first, first of all, two hundred
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: and thirty thousand, two hundred and seventy seven thousand, that's
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: not a lot of views. Two hundred and thirty thousand. Listen, listen,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty thousand is not a lot of people.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I made a video short on AW that has so
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I think it's right at seven hundred and seventy five
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: thousand views right now, that doesn't make me more popular
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: than AW. Okay, now, two hundred thirty thousand views on
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: YouTube is shit, plain and simple. It's shit, not gonna
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: push anything. It's not gonna get you there. The second
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: thing is how many views did you say that? The
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Trumperetta thing got?
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: Hundred sixty five.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's what sixty five thousand short? Okay, sixty
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: five thousand less? The aw World champion in a story
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: that's been going on since eight month step septemb No,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: that's been going on since September of last year. Okay,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: from All Out in Chicago got two hundred and thirty
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: thousand views and only got sixty five thousand views from
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: a mid carter that came back after a few months.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: Okay, will Osprey versus takeshta must see own match. They
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: showed twelve minutes and on YouTube only had two and
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: seventy five thousand views.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: That's fine because people are watching the Again, two hundred
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: and seventy five thousand views is nothing on YouTube, just
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: like tw hundred and thirty thousand views. There's nothing on YouTube.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: There's really not.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: People.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Look, if I'm gonna go watch a match, I'm gonna
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: watch it on DVR or on the Max replay. I'm
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: gonna watch it. You know, it's as simple as that.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know all the way to put it.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: You can't when aw gets to literally a video gets
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: literally millions of views. Talk to me about YouTube.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I get like a million issues of the
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Benchmark or Good Entertainment, and you know people are paying
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: attention worth two hundred thousands not so much.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, you know, it's the whole Moxley
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: thing is going to be very divisive, and because there
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: are people like me that have hated it since like
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: the within a month, because it was it. It did
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: not start strong at all. It was a it well,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: it did start strong for like the first three weeks
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: when everybody was saying, you know, on this podcast and
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of people were saying it on the on
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: the uh subreddit and on Discord. We're joking, you know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: who's going to have it? You have murder attempted on
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: them this week, you know, because they were doing stuff
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: that was interesting and then it just fell into you know,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: silly stuff, you know, And I can't get excited about
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: a belt that I can't see.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't get it. I know it's going to.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Exactly and I can tell you this right now. If
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: they had John Moxley and Will Osprey tomorrow night on
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: aw Dynamite. I would not watch that match because I'm
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: sick of it already. It's not musty TV. I don't
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: care who's in the match. Again, I said it, I'll
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: say it again. It's not who wins the match and
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: takes the title off of John Moxley. It's when if
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: they wait until all in to change the title. That
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: is way too long to wait.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: But I think that's the payoff match, and I really do.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: I know it's too long, but I think that's the
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: biggest time to do it. It's just like Cody in
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: WrestleMania saying that that WWE did. They want the biggest
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: moment is the biggest stage in them all to finally
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: pay off a JO and that's what I think they're doing.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing is, I don't consider whoever wins,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: whether it's Samoa Joe or Will Osprey or Sir Pentaco
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: or Megan Bade. For Christ's sake, I don't consider when
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: this finally ends. I don't consider it.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I can't think of a single scenario that would happen
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: is a payoff, and a single scenario that would make
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: me want to watch it.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, exactly. And and I really think that this
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: whole storyline has hurt John Mosby's image a little bit
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: and makes me like him a little bit less. I
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: actually respect him, but this just blows me away. I
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: think this is a lot of his ideas and stuff,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: so I don't I don't know anymore. I've lost a
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: lot of respect for Moxley just for this.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I will say this because you could have. Let's just
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: let's just pretend that tomorrow night, John Moxley faces Samoa
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Joe and Will Osprey in a three way match and
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: loses the title to want to want to samo Joe
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: or will Osprey tomorrow night. Okay, that show is not
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: gonna get ratings. What's gonna get ratings is Will Osprey
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: or Samoa Joe coming out to open the next week's
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Dynamite holding that actually holding the belt. You're gonna hear
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: a big pop and you're gonna That's the payoff the
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: match itself at Anything that happens in the match is
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: not the payoff. The payoff is actually seeing the belt
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: and not having John Moxley associated with it and out
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: of the story completely, and the death Riders out of
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: the store because it's a failure.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: It's just a failure with that.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Pote Pirie. I have something to say,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: But does anybody else have anything that they want to
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: bring up for Pope Poirie?
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: I got one. There seems to be this. There was
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: a there was a discussion had on the Reddit today
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: somebody was making a remark about how the eight WWE
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: did the whole Tony and Nigel thing where Nigel protected
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: Tony on AW like this week, a week or so
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: less away from when it was done on a W
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: on WWE. It made a major that it was a
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: major deal that they were copying a w and I
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: was just like wrestling has been around for like ever,
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: everything is repeated.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did it the same day.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: It doesn't make a difference. They were like, oh, but
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: it's important that they that they're copying AW. And it's
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: like the only thing that I can think of this
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: year or in the last couple of years that has
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: been new and different that I have not seen before
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: is the Tony Storm.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: And no Tony Storm, I mean gorgeous George.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I could say gorgeous George, but it wasn't.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: I don't think just George stuff was as intense as.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: There are others. I mean, yeah, I mean do you
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: think do you think turning? And for me d n W,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: well was dude, No, it.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: Was another one that was another one of my my
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: you know they were talking about like I wanted to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: say to him, you know you have like the FDR
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: turning on uh code. This this has happened many, many,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: many times in the exactly at least out there. And
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: I said, how do you make this a big deal?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: It's not a big deal. It happens. You can watch
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: the shows. They could have the same show doing the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: exact same thing. It's it's never happened that I know of.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: But the two shows on two on the same night
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: could be doing the exact same thing by random chance.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: But they made this major deal that it made a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: big deal that a W is being copied by w W.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: And I was just like, I don't get it. I
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: don't get it. I don't think it's like music, you
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: know they they talk about music is always the same.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: There's there's only so many notes you can play on
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: a guitar. You're going to get a lot of rep
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: no matter what you do. But I just thought that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: was an interesting conversation.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: That had no one that's that was a really good conversation.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: And I agree with the hundred percent. There's nothing new
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: that's going on in wrestling. It's just the same kind
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: of things. Not that I don't mean that in a
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: negative way at all. It's the same thing just being
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: done in slightly different ways with different.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: People, Right. He just I think he was making a
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: big deal because it happened so close to when it
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: happened in AEW. I give you idea that he thinks
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: that that's saying the WWE is like paying honor to AW,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: because but I'm like, dude, this is not the first
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: time this has happened. It won't be the last time
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: it happens. It don't happen in mL or in New Japan,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: it just happens.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Well, the one thing that you could say about WWE,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: you know, honoring AW, is how many times they mentioned
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: or referred to AW meeting w W, refer to a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: W and the pre show of WrestleMania. In the postow WrestleMania,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Oh God, even w W fans were like, will you
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: please stop mentioning a W or referring to oh my god,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: A people are saying, well, a W refers to you know,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: w W all the time. When was the last time
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: you saw any wrestler in a W refer to w W.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: It's been months.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: Well, has An been saying something about not necessarily directly
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: about A or w W E, but he talks. I
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: thought I heard him saying something about people. But you're
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: probably right, and that's funny to me, is yeah, I.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Think that Tony Kahan finally said, hey, guys, you know
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: we're a W. Don't give them free advertising. Let them
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: advertise us, because they advertised a ship out of a W.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: They really did. I was like, they may, they may
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: do this, Yeah, I mean they they might as well
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: just had patches, you know, attached that her tights.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: Got mentioned. How many times billionaires Sun got mentioned? Like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: it's ridiculous, it was.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: It was really a bad look. I was sad to
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: see it because it took away from, you know, arguably
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: the biggest wrestling weekend that there's been in years. I mean,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this weekend was big. I'm saying
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: that WrestleMania forty one. There's forty one WrestleManias, and they've
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: all been pretty huge. You know, I could confidently say
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: that it's the super Bowl of wrestling. Aw' is not
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: there yet, but they've got forty one WrestleManias, and WrestleManias
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: did not start in their first year. You know, Aw's
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: going into their six year. You know they're doing damn well.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Does anybody else have a pultporix?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: I do real quick, go ahead, it's gonna bounce off
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: of what we've been talking about. But I just have
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: not been watching Dynamites fully through because of I know
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: that the death Riders are going to be on there,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: So I I fully agree when Kelson says that the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: next night, the next Dynamite's gonna be the most important
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: if it happens at the because it's because I'm so
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: tired of it, and they got a change direction for
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: that men's title to be worth something, and and I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: hope once he does lose, it's done and over with
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: and death Writers gets dismantled totally.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I can't argue with it. I mean,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: you're saying the truth, my pot pourri. I believe it's
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: On April twenty seventh, Stardom is doing their pay per
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: view and their featured matches. Saya Ka Tommy against Poy.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: I messed up that name. I'm not going to try
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: it again because I mess it up again against tam
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: To Kano. Uh, tam To Kano loses her career is over.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Uh much like Fuego Dell Soul lost his mask and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: left his boots in the middle of the ring. I
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: don't think his career is over.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: But you.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: Know, but anyway, this is this is probably the single
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: biggest weekend for stardom and and I love it, you know,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: and if you want to see some good if you're
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: a fan of women's wrestling, and uh, you know, I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: think the Japanese women's wrestling gets a little bit of
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: a bad rap because ye some of them they just
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: yell at their squeaky voice and they run around looking
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: like little schoolgirls. I could understand Jim Cornett saying stuff
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: like that because some of them do, you know, let's
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: face it, just like you know, some of the men
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: make themselves look like idiots, you know when they go
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: out there, you know, and perform. It's part of the fun.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: But stardom is good, hard hitting women's wrestling, and you know,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: do yourself a favor, go on YouTube watch the Stardom
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: videos and you'll see these women can strike. And I
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: will say this, I've said it before and I'll say
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: it again. If you think the WWE NXT Ring of
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Honor or AW have the best women's wrestling available right now,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, you just don't know what women's wrestling
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: is because Stardom has them beat hands down. Truly believe
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: that these women are fantastic and they deserve their flowers.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: And if I can get one person to just check
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: them out, because I've been harbored on it for weeks,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: if I get one person to just go on YouTube
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: and check them out, join the Stardom world for six
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: dollars and ninety nine cents a month with the content
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: that they put on that thing. Stardom is not like
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: WWE and AW like I forget the woman that wrestled
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: the most matches in AW. What did I say? It was,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Mariah May last year? He thinks you had forty four
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: matches barring injury. Startom wrestle Startom women will wrestle over
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: one hundred matches in that same period of time. And
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: I am not lying. You could go look that up.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: You know they they not only perform fantastically, but they're
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: out there every couple of days doing it. It's amazing.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: It's amazing that these women get battered like this and
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: come back like nothing happened and put on another show
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: with a whole different story. And if you're worried about oh,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: it's in Japanese. I don't understand Japanese. You don't have
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: to understand Japanese because just the body language and in
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: their vocal inflections when they're on the microphone. I understand
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: every word without understanding every word. It's the weirdest thing
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: in the world, but I totally get it. Check out stardom.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: I swear to God, if you like women's wrestling, you
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: will love stardom. It's amazing. Does anybody else have anything
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: another pot pourri? Yeah, go for it. What's with the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Rock wearing the new japan Wrestling shirt? Is he trolling?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Somebody said, why he wore He's a He's look, the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Rock is a wrestling fan. Most wrestlers are wrestling fans.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: You know, j A A M J, M JF Beta
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: post uh or not a post. But he did an
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: interview about three weeks ago, and I'm paraphrasing here says
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: he said, I watched w w E, I watched New Japan,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: I watched the indies. I'm a wrestling student. And if
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: you're a professional wrestler and you're not watching w w
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: E and a w in DeFi and rev Pro and
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: and soaking up all the wrestling you can get, you're
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: not doing your job. So it doesn't surprise me. I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: guarantee you that m JF. I'm not that the Rock
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: probably has an m JF shirt somewhere in his in
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: his closet.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not the wrestlers that are the issue. It's
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: the fans. The wrestlers are all friends, most of them.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: They know each other, They've worked with each other in
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: one way or another. They all they all root for
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: each other because they know that if one one group succeeds,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: the other is going to too. So you know, when
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: people get upset about things that happen or it's not
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: the it's not the wrestlers. I mean, there are some
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: that have issues, but for the most part, their buddies.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: They root for each other.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: When aw wrestlers do well at a w they know
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: that they can go to WWE and get paid and
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: I WWE wrestlers do well in w W. They know
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: they can come to a W and get paid. You know,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: that's why, you know, we're not why the only reason why,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: but that's why. You know, wrestlers root for each other.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: You know, it's because they don't have to like each other,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: but they respect the business. Like I said, Steve, you
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: know it's a good point, but I can't to you.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: The Rock has a lot of paraphernalia from different wrestling companies.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: He's probably got w c W stuff, He's probably got
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: E c W stuff, He's probably got rev Pro stuff.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, he's wrapped Ricky Stars, Ricky Saints.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 8: I'm sorry, Sts, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Anybody else on the purri Yeah, the Vanilla Rock, Yeah,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: anybody else with a pot pourri. Then, I guess will
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: wrap things up. Will be back tomorrow night for all
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: the talk. Right after Dynamite is over, we'll be doing
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: a review of tomorrow night's Dynamite. How many matches do
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: they announced for tomorrow night? Sinnamit? I think they're on
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: your anounce too, right.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: I don't even remember the two I mean, we got
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: the Statlanders match, and we got that's the only one
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: I know of for sure.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the other one kind of escapes me. But hopefully
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: by this time tomorrow night, well this time tomorrow night,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: the show will be almost ever but yeah, yeah, so
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: I hopefully by this time tomorrow night we'll know what
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: the other matches are because if not, that we've only
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: had two matches at that kind of stant, you know.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: So anyway, thanks for listening. Moving back tomorrow night again
• 1:12:23
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• 1:13:04
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• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: I guess