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Love and Rockets Book Club #82 - Vol. 2 #12 · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tad Eggleston: Good evening, everybody! Welcome back to the Love & Rockets Book Club on 22 Panels. I'm Tad, I'm joined by Maria and Marisol. Today, we are going to discuss Love and Rockets Volume 2, No. 12, and the final issue of Luba Comics and Stories.
• 0:20
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 0:20
  Tad Eggleston: Number 8.
• 0:22
  Tad Eggleston: So, how are you guys? It's been a couple of weeks, it's nice to see you again.
• 0:28
  Marisol: I'm good!
• 0:29
  Maria Pena: Yeah, me too, I'm good.
• 0:32
  Marisol: Things calmed down for you a little bit, Maria.
• 0:35
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, I've been super busy, doing storyboards, and also doing a storyboard for a show for Netflix.
• 0:45
  Marisol: just a.
• 0:46
  Maria Pena: go to pray.
• 0:46
  Tad Eggleston: Fun!
• 0:47
  Maria Pena: Yeah, and, and, yeah, sort of filmed in New Zealand. It's a skiing, it's a skiing, sort of, series.
• 0:57
  Maria Pena: you know, sit in a, in a, you know, ski mountain, you know, people doing radical skiing. So there was a lot of, action scenes of people
• 1:07
  Maria Pena: And doing cool stuff, so that was… that was great, and also in ads. So, yeah, just… just being a bit.
• 1:16
  Maria Pena: So, finally was able to make it back.
• 1:20
  Maria Pena: Love a rocket?
• 1:22
  Marisol: I know you've got some breathing room.
• 1:24
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 1:25
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and, and, and, like… money for, for, for vacations, or… or cool things, or whatever.
• 1:37
  Maria Pena: Basically, yeah, like, yeah, we are going… we are going away in October, from… I'm in Australia at the moment, and we're gonna go back to Malta in October, and then gonna go to Mexico, and
• 1:52
  Maria Pena: You know, so I'm seeing it as art residencies. I'm gonna do a lot of painting, bring in my plein air stuff, and I'm gonna be… I'm gonna paint as much as I can from life in those places.
• 2:05
  Tad Eggleston: Cool.
• 2:05
  Maria Pena: That's the intention. We'll see if I can…
• 2:12
  Marisol: That's awesome.
• 2:13
  Maria Pena: Yeah, thank you.
• 2:16
  Tad Eggleston: Portugal.
• 2:18
  Maria Pena: So we'll start with, Luba.
• 2:21
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, let's start with some Luba comics and stories.
• 2:25
  Tad Eggleston: That's what I put up first.
• 2:27
  Tad Eggleston: Because…
• 2:28
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 2:28
  Tad Eggleston: I loved both of these issues, but this one…
• 2:30
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 2:31
  Tad Eggleston: like.
• 2:32
  Maria Pena: See what you're saying.
• 2:32
  Tad Eggleston: It was such a gut punch.
• 2:34
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, I wasn't expecting it. I love the, the, the credits? The credits?
• 2:41
  Tad Eggleston: Read by Fritz?
• 2:44
  Maria Pena: Bread by Fritz, and… So…
• 2:47
  Tad Eggleston: Who doesn't have the lisp if she speaks in French?
• 2:50
  Maria Pena: I must be, she must be speaking, of course. Yeah. No, it was great, because each panel is telling you who did this and who did that.
• 2:59
  Tad Eggleston: Right?
• 3:03
  Maria Pena: Oops.
• 3:05
  Tad Eggleston: Then we've got… I don't know…
• 3:10
  Tad Eggleston: We haven't… have we focused on Guadalupe for a story before? Maybe… maybe when she got…
• 3:16
  Marisol: put together…
• 3:18
  Maria Pena: Ratto.
• 3:19
  Marisol: It's gone.
• 3:19
  Tad Eggleston: matelle.
• 3:21
  Marisol: Yeah, it's been a while, though.
• 3:23
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, yeah…
• 3:24
  Marisol: I've seen her here and there.
• 3:26
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, she's in a lot of stories, I just don't feel like she's the central character.
• 3:32
  Tad Eggleston: that offer. Yeah. So it's kind of cool to have…
• 3:36
  Maria Pena: Her as the narrator.
• 3:39
  Maria Pena: Total.
• 3:41
  Tad Eggleston: Kind of filling in the gaps, because… because we're picking up, it says, what, 5 years after the sisters talked
• 3:48
  Tad Eggleston: Like, wasn't it the last issue where it kept saying, it'll be another day until the… the…
• 3:54
  Tad Eggleston: Sisters, stop talking to each other.
• 3:57
  Maria Pena: Right? Yeah.
• 3:58
  Tad Eggleston: And now we're down the road, and we're getting hints of the why, but we're still not getting the why.
• 4:06
  Tad Eggleston: Mom.
• 4:08
  Maria Pena: At the beginning, yeah, well… the why is the movie, right?
• 4:14
  Tad Eggleston: Well…
• 4:15
  Maria Pena: Oh, no, actually, no, no.
• 4:17
  Marisol: That's a part of it, isn't it?
• 4:19
  Tad Eggleston: There's implications…
• 4:20
  Maria Pena: No, that's the chips that it might be?
• 4:22
  Maria Pena: No, no, no, it's Luba who doesn't talk to… Oh, is that we would… Who we're talking about, because…
• 4:31
  Maria Pena: Petra and Fritz are not talking either.
• 4:34
  Tad Eggleston: Right, none of them are talking.
• 4:37
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 4:38
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, even though there's the suggestion that it's, like, Fritz stole the role from Marisola, then you've got the scene where Marisola talks about, no, I gave it to her, I wanted her to take it, I… acting wasn't the thing that I was gonna do, I wanted to write movies.
• 4:56
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that's right.
• 4:57
  Tad Eggleston: And man, was it hard to see… like, post-cancer Marisola?
• 5:06
  Marisol: Oof.
• 5:07
  Tad Eggleston: this.
• 5:08
  Maria Pena: The release, the release.
• 5:09
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I'm sorry, Dory Elise, yeah.
• 5:12
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 5:12
  Maria Pena: Yeah, like, it was like, oh, shit, that's the only…
• 5:16
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 5:16
  Maria Pena: And, oh.
• 5:19
  Maria Pena: Like, it's amazing how Beto can make her, like, you can tell by the freckles, right?
• 5:26
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 5:28
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 5:29
  Maria Pena: Still her.
• 5:31
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 5:33
  Maria Pena: Such a good Should we go in some kind of order?
• 5:39
  Tad Eggleston: Yes, we should.
• 5:40
  Maria Pena: Yeah, I mean…
• 5:42
  Tad Eggleston: I just had so many thoughts that I went all over the place, I'm sorry.
• 5:45
  Maria Pena: That's alright, that's alright.
• 5:47
  Maria Pena: So… and I was thinking, you know, we should describe what we're… what page we're on and what we're looking at, you know, because I'm thinking, people listening to this, they're probably thinking, what panel? What page? What are you talking about? If they were following up with us.
• 6:05
  Maria Pena: Yeah, if they were actually listening and following.
• 6:08
  Tad Eggleston: I think they're mostly just listening to us rather than following along with the book.
• 6:13
  Tad Eggleston: I could be wrong.
• 6:15
  Maria Pena: But, you know, like, we go, wow, that's a fantastic panel, blah blah blah.
• 6:20
  Tad Eggleston: I do, I do love…
• 6:22
  Maria Pena: I don't…
• 6:25
  Tad Eggleston: I do love that we're, we're starting to get introduced to…
• 6:30
  Tad Eggleston: Like, his future comics via movie posters.
• 6:34
  Maria Pena: Yeah, God, she's done a lot of really big, great movies, all pretty.
• 6:38
  Tad Eggleston: Alright. Troublemakers, there's a movie poster for… Right off the bat.
• 6:46
  Maria Pena: And then you go through… we go through on page, 3, I think? 3? No.
• 6:51
  Maria Pena: Nope, nope, Katie, next one.
• 6:53
  Maria Pena: Before…
• 6:54
  Tad Eggleston: Jason.
• 6:55
  Maria Pena: Page 4, we have, like, little short snippets of her movie.
• 7:00
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 7:02
  Maria Pena: And then we have the titles.
• 7:04
  Maria Pena: That's significant.
• 7:05
  Tad Eggleston: Right. Troublemakers…
• 7:06
  Maria Pena: Okay, the troublemaker.
• 7:10
  Tad Eggleston: there now.
• 7:11
  Maria Pena: Black Cat Moon, the seven old-girl Kung Fu Killer Clones. For sure.
• 7:17
  Tad Eggleston: Sinners only.
• 7:18
  Maria Pena: Holy, the Earthians, I love that. Stay back, the Greece, Lexar!
• 7:27
  Maria Pena: With her boobs, too messy.
• 7:30
  Tad Eggleston: I think so far, of these five, he's only made the Troublemakers into a full graphic novel.
• 7:36
  Maria Pena: Oh, okay.
• 7:38
  Maria Pena: And the three misty guys, which I thought the poster later on was hilarious, with the three icons.
• 7:44
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 7:44
  Marisol: Well, there's room for more!
• 7:48
  Marisol: He wants to do those in the future?
• 7:50
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 7:52
  Maria Pena: Oh, and what people want… introduces Guadalupe with a guy with a massive…
• 7:58
  Maria Pena: Shlong. Yeah. But they're both, like, big penises.
• 8:05
  Maria Pena: And she protests a lot. Oh, no, no, and then she ends up sleeping with.
• 8:10
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, then she changes her mind at the end, but it's kind of…
• 8:12
  Marisol: Yep.
• 8:13
  Tad Eggleston: unsatisfied.
• 8:15
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 8:17
  Maria Pena: Oh, and so we're in the future now, and Petra has gained weight, and Venus is grown up, still grown up.
• 8:26
  Marisol: Yes.
• 8:28
  Tad Eggleston: Venus is definitely a teenager now.
• 8:31
  Tad Eggleston: Totally acting it.
• 8:33
  Maria Pena: Yeah. Yeah.
• 8:36
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 8:37
  Maria Pena: Whoa.
• 8:38
  Marisol: But still, so very much Venus.
• 8:40
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah.
• 8:40
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that's what I was thinking, he's so good, like… Venus still looks like, like, Like Venus, yeah.
• 8:50
  Tad Eggleston: You know, Petra's like, if you're dating this show, I'd love a copy, honey. You got it, and Venus is just snarky. Only if you delete all the scenes with Fritz in them.
• 9:03
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 9:04
  Tad Eggleston: I know.
• 9:05
  Maria Pena: And she's still being… being a bit cheeky.
• 9:10
  Maria Pena: But, you know, she's got hips now.
• 9:13
  Marisol: Oh, yeah.
• 9:14
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 9:16
  Maria Pena: It's my brother.
• 9:20
  Maria Pena: This is sick.
• 9:24
  Maria Pena: Boston?
• 9:29
  Marisol: And we didn't see…
• 9:31
  Maria Pena: Sorry, guys.
• 9:32
  Marisol: Guadalupe with the… the, little girl as… her little girl as a baby, did we?
• 9:42
  Tad Eggleston: I think we did.
• 9:48
  Marisol: I don't remember that.
• 9:52
  Maria Pena: And, so, Hector looks pretty different. He's older, I guess.
• 9:59
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 10:00
  Maria Pena: I didn't recognize him for a minute there with the light hair. I think that's gray hair? Is it, like…
• 10:07
  Maria Pena: He's a great…
• 10:08
  Marisol: Yep.
• 10:10
  Maria Pena: Yeah, just his eyes are pretty distinctive. He's being actor, he's got that eyeliner look.
• 10:22
  Maria Pena: Oh, that was fun. So, page 10,
• 10:27
  Maria Pena: people… what was… Guadalupe didn't want to come over to sleep with the guy with the beach lawn, and he's like, oh, God, you know, it's obviously, erect or something, and people helps him out, like, really.
• 10:44
  Maria Pena: Excuse me.
• 10:45
  Tad Eggleston: Well, what I, what I love is…
• 10:46
  Maria Pena: pricing here.
• 10:48
  Tad Eggleston: He's like…
• 10:49
  Tad Eggleston: If I may be so bold, your oral artistry is the stuff of legend. Women can only handle it for a few seconds or so before they gag at…
• 11:01
  Maria Pena: The ambulance.
• 11:03
  Tad Eggleston: seconds long.
• 11:04
  Marisol: Yeah, everything.
• 11:04
  Tad Eggleston: usual, I'm getting rusty.
• 11:07
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 11:08
  Marisol: That's… I love that scene, just her looking at her watch all non.
• 11:12
  Tad Eggleston: Shalana.
• 11:13
  Marisol: Not the whole thing.
• 11:14
  Maria Pena: I just saw that was nothing, you know.
• 11:17
  Maria Pena: But I guess, I guess she was used to gato.
• 11:22
  Marisol: People's a professional, clearly.
• 11:25
  Maria Pena: Apparently, she's good at it.
• 11:27
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it's funny. That seems stuck in mind. You know, that's the kind of animals we are.
• 11:36
  Maria Pena: So… Next page, what's the… Sweet.
• 11:45
  Maria Pena: Is that… okay.
• 11:50
  Maria Pena: And then, now we have a look at Luma, who's also…
• 11:54
  Marisol: Let's good.
• 11:55
  Maria Pena: Oh, white hair.
• 11:56
  Tad Eggleston: Cold and tired.
• 11:59
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 12:02
  Marisol: Still bill.
• 12:02
  Tad Eggleston: Where's Kamo?
• 12:04
  Tad Eggleston: We don't see Kamo at all.
• 12:06
  Maria Pena: Well, I think that's what… is that what Walupe was asking? What happened with your…
• 12:11
  Maria Pena: Yeah, I've been seeing your husband. Oh, this is not the same, though.
• 12:22
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 12:24
  Maria Pena: So… Luba, old, what's next?
• 12:33
  Tad Eggleston: Haha!
• 12:35
  Tad Eggleston: Omega.
• 12:39
  Maria Pena: Do I… I don't remember Gatto and…
• 12:42
  Maria Pena: What, Sergio, did they die in a car crash? Am I… have a good amnesia?
• 12:47
  Tad Eggleston: I don't… I think… I forget if that was on-screen or off-screen.
• 12:52
  Maria Pena: I mean, not in this, in this one, but they mentioned it, and I went, what? You know?
• 12:56
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 12:57
  Maria Pena: When did that happen? Yeah, I… I guess because we…
• 13:03
  Marisol: the shit out of Fortunato and, like, drove off in a car together. I don't remember if they showed them dying.
• 13:11
  Tad Eggleston: I don't remember that either.
• 13:13
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 13:15
  Maria Pena: And so much happens in these.
• 13:19
  Maria Pena: Oh, and the next page, on page 13, Venus, top, top, top panel there, I think that quote that she says.
• 13:29
  Maria Pena: What's the best thing of all, Venus? To crush your enemies, to drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the women. I think that's from Conan the Barbarian.
• 13:38
  Tad Eggleston: That sounds right.
• 13:39
  Maria Pena: Yeah. From the movie, you know, with Arnold Schwartz in it.
• 13:44
  Maria Pena: And it totally makes sense. I thought I've heard that before.
• 13:48
  Tad Eggleston: Totally fits.
• 13:49
  Maria Pena: To crush your enemies, to drive them before you, and heed the lamentations of the women.
• 13:56
  Maria Pena: Oh, so here's… this is still on page… what was it, Pen?
• 14:06
  Marisol: team?
• 14:07
  Maria Pena: Yeah, I can't see the bottom of the picture.
• 14:10
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 14:11
  Maria Pena: Fantastic.
• 14:12
  Marisol: 13, right?
• 14:14
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 14:15
  Marisol: Zoomed in a bit.
• 14:16
  Maria Pena: Anyway, the…
• 14:18
  Marisol: So…
• 14:18
  Maria Pena: So they… so… before I was with ECTO… oh yeah, 30.
• 14:23
  Maria Pena: Well, he lived with Theopetra. She kicked him out when she found out he and my Theopritz were together shortly before, but kept it a secret. So, Fritz keeps doing this.
• 14:35
  Maria Pena: Because in the thing, the, phrase… slept with Petra's husband.
• 14:45
  Maria Pena: And then introduced him to her.
• 14:48
  Maria Pena: And then Petra married him. Was that in 11 Rockets? Am I getting confused?
• 14:55
  Tad Eggleston: No, that's literally in the other issue that we read today.
• 14:59
  Maria Pena: Oh, okay, right. So, maybe that's the reason they're not talking to each other. I don't know.
• 15:08
  Marisol: Yes, it says here that… The whole secret thing with Hector was enough for Petra to shun Fritz.
• 15:17
  Marisol: And then there was also a film… that Fritz did… Her first starring role…
• 15:26
  Marisol: And then that's when Petra stopped talking to both Fritz and Luba.
• 15:34
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 15:35
  Maria Pena: So I think it's somewhere in there is the reason they're not…
• 15:40
  Maria Pena: What… or is that it? That's the reason?
• 15:43
  Marisol: Seems like that's it. At least that's the reason for Petra not talking to them.
• 15:47
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 15:51
  Tad Eggleston: there seems to be implications that there was some sort of blowout as well, so, I mean, I don't…
• 15:59
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know how to read into any of this.
• 16:02
  Tad Eggleston: Sometimes it feels like they're telling me a reason, sometimes it feels like they're telling me a… possible reason.
• 16:10
  Tad Eggleston: For a reason that somebody might assume.
• 16:15
  Maria Pena: Well, I think it's pretty clear there. Because, Guadalupe is talking about is so… it is so incestuous that everybody sleeps with everybody, but I think she's talking about Fritz and Petra, because
• 16:31
  Maria Pena: They seem to share, you know.
• 16:33
  Maria Pena: Well, and pe… no, people, and people's sons, living with Guadalupe, and, you know, it's like…
• 16:41
  Marisol: Included.
• 16:42
  Maria Pena: People's now with friends!
• 16:45
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, they do seem to be blaming it on…
• 16:48
  Tad Eggleston: Also, Fritz taking on the… the Maria M.
• 16:52
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 16:53
  Marisol: Yep.
• 16:57
  Maria Pena: I wonder if, the… so now we're looking at the poster coming soon, Maria M.
• 17:03
  Maria Pena: And…
• 17:04
  Maria Pena: And I look at all those names at the bottom, and I think they're probably mates, you know. That's what I would put…
• 17:12
  Maria Pena: Put my friends' names.
• 17:15
  Maria Pena: Or people that…
• 17:16
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 17:18
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 17:18
  Maria Pena: anything, I guess, this won't trust.
• 17:22
  Maria Pena: The epic graphic novelization by Gilbert Hernandez.
• 17:27
  Maria Pena: So it was a movie first, and then…
• 17:31
  Tad Eggleston: I don't think it was ever a movie… it was… it's a movie in… Yeah, I don't know.
• 17:36
  Maria Pena: And then there's a graphic novel by Gilbert.
• 17:40
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 17:41
  Tad Eggleston: But it's only a movie in… in universe.
• 17:45
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:45
  Tad Eggleston: Not in our universe, just in their…
• 17:48
  Maria Pena: No, no, no.
• 17:50
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, their universe, but it's also… Boom.
• 18:00
  Maria Pena: So, yeah, we keep seeing the posters of all of, Breath's movies, Pick up the Devil, Right.
• 18:08
  Maria Pena: That's fair.
• 18:10
  Tad Eggleston: Remastered Director's Cut.
• 18:12
  Maria Pena: Oh yeah, there's a lot of director's cut. Oh, the mystic Eyes, there it is.
• 18:16
  Maria Pena: Autumn facial.
• 18:18
  Maria Pena: That is hilarious, with the eyeballs floating around, and Fritz.
• 18:22
  Maria Pena: The old dog!
• 18:24
  Marisol: little note on Rated Director's edition.
• 18:27
  Maria Pena: I'm right here.
• 18:30
  Marisol: Little Bastille with her trusty hammer.
• 18:33
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 18:39
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 18:43
  Maria Pena: And then, we have… the… The rushes or something for, okay.
• 18:54
  Maria Pena: No, the story.
• 18:55
  Tad Eggleston: I think that's the Dora Lee screen test for…
• 18:59
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it's the… well.
• 19:01
  Tad Eggleston: Maria M?
• 19:03
  Maria Pena: It's Frit… no, it's not… is it? No, I think that's… that's Fritz. I think she's just looking at the… at the… a rough cut of the film.
• 19:13
  Marisol: No, that's… that's the release.
• 19:14
  Tad Eggleston: No, because it says, we can screen your test another time. No, I'm embarrassed with what I've seen, people.
• 19:22
  Maria Pena: Oh, I think it's time to replace me with your second choice. Right.
• 19:26
  Maria Pena: Okay, I guess she had makeup.
• 19:30
  Maria Pena: Alright.
• 19:31
  Maria Pena: So then, second choice is Fritz, then she gets…
• 19:39
  Maria Pena: Right.
• 19:41
  Maria Pena: Let's see…
• 19:43
  Tad Eggleston: I love the family portrait here.
• 19:46
  Maria Pena: Oh, they're all, dressed in black in this page.
• 19:51
  Maria Pena: Is that… are they going to the funeral? Like, have we jumped in town? Oh, no, there's… nobody says the release there.
• 19:59
  Maria Pena: Okay.
• 19:59
  Maria Pena: Alright, good.
• 20:01
  Marisol: I think that's just all their, like, coats and stuff.
• 20:04
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 20:04
  Marisol: on their way to have this portrait taken, and I think that portrait might be my favorite.
• 20:09
  Marisol: Panel of this book.
• 20:11
  Tad Eggleston: I think… I think it's definitely likely to be mine.
• 20:16
  Marisol: It's just nice seeing all of them together.
• 20:18
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 20:26
  Marisol: I still whip her little arm.
• 20:30
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 20:37
  Maria Pena: I had to go back to the beginning of this and go, wait, what happened? When I saw this page with,
• 20:46
  Maria Pena: 8.
• 20:49
  Maria Pena: the, your release… Bald and really skinny.
• 20:57
  Maria Pena: And then, oh, this, this page is just… Heartbreaking.
• 21:04
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 21:04
  Maria Pena: Because they're calling Luba from the hospital, and Doralis dies while they're on the phone.
• 21:13
  Maria Pena: And she's waiting on the cab.
• 21:15
  Marisol: Yep.
• 21:18
  Marisol: Ugh.
• 21:20
  Marisol: Is this hard to read?
• 21:23
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 21:30
  Maria Pena: So…
• 21:35
  Tad Eggleston: This is a great shot, too.
• 21:39
  Maria Pena: Yeah, so that's it.
• 21:40
  Marisol: Back in Pena.
• 21:41
  Maria Pena: Inside of… inside of back page, or is it the back page?
• 21:45
  Tad Eggleston: Now you can see each side of the back page.
• 21:47
  Tad Eggleston: Cover historally.
• 21:49
  Maria Pena: Yeah, of the three of them, and that covers, at least.
• 21:53
  Maria Pena: True.
• 21:55
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that was sad.
• 21:57
  Marisol: Ugh.
• 22:00
  Marisol: How dare they make me feel feelings in my own home?
• 22:03
  Tad Eggleston: Shit.
• 22:05
  Marisol: It's very rude.
• 22:07
  Tad Eggleston: There were… there were feelings in the other one, too.
• 22:11
  Marisol: Ugh.
• 22:11
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 22:13
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 22:15
  Marisol: It was doubly rude.
• 22:20
  Maria Pena: Great stuff from Hyman Love and Rockets.
• 22:24
  Maria Pena: So what's this, Lover Rockets number 12?
• 22:28
  Tad Eggleston: Movin' Rockets Volume 2, Number 12.
• 22:31
  Tad Eggleston: We laid off with some… some… some… Doyle, Viv, and Ray.
• 22:38
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 22:39
  Marisol: Oh, Vivian.
• 22:43
  Maria Pena: I love the first, page where she's just walking around rehearsing some lines.
• 22:50
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 22:51
  Maria Pena: Is she… is she in a… in a movie, or what? They are.
• 22:55
  Maria Pena: And… and then she notices that Ray's still there, and she freaks out. I love that! Oh, fucking shit!
• 23:05
  Maria Pena: And… And he's like, what?
• 23:08
  Maria Pena: And he's… it's just a great, panel.
• 23:12
  Maria Pena: That… A little bit, dagwood, or, like, the sweat beads, like, flying…
• 23:22
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 23:24
  Tad Eggleston: Nope.
• 23:25
  Marisol: I also love that tiny detail of the little toe poking out of Ray's sock.
• 23:31
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, he's so…
• 23:32
  Marisol: Another hole in his.
• 23:33
  Maria Pena: Me, darning.
• 23:35
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:37
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 23:45
  Maria Pena: Yeah, this is a lot of great, naturalism, you know, like, when Ray, in this
• 23:53
  Maria Pena: this page that we're on, whatever it is, obviously.
• 23:59
  Tad Eggleston: or…
• 24:00
  Maria Pena: Page 4, so, Sir Ray is sort of giving… flipping him the finger surreptitiously to, you know,
• 24:11
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 24:12
  Marisol: With his hand out the window?
• 24:14
  Maria Pena: It turned out the window, and just, just poking the middle finger at the middle.
• 24:21
  Maria Pena: There's a lot of just, you know, it's mostly Doyle and Viv carrying on a race, just listening and reacting.
• 24:31
  Tad Eggleston: That's one of the things that Ray is best at.
• 24:34
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 24:36
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it just kind of observes, doesn't it?
• 24:39
  Tad Eggleston: For the Gen Xers out there, I would… if I ever met Kevin Smith, I might almost have to ask him if Silent Bob is based on Ray.
• 24:51
  Maria Pena: Wow.
• 24:53
  Tad Eggleston: Ray talks a little bit more than Silent Bob, but he's still very much the…
• 24:57
  Tad Eggleston: Observant, and when he speaks, he has something to say.
• 25:03
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 25:03
  Maria Pena: And I think, you know, I think Ray is Jaime, you know, really.
• 25:07
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, definitely. Definitely.
• 25:08
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:10
  Maria Pena: I love that last frame there on page 5 with, like, just the expressions, like, what the fuck did I miss anyway? And Doyle, and Ray.
• 25:20
  Tad Eggleston: Panels, Mars, Newsprint, Irrigation, Rowe, Montezuma.
• 25:28
  Maria Pena: Head into his hands, and even a little squiggle above his head, like…
• 25:32
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 25:33
  Maria Pena: It's just lovely.
• 25:38
  Maria Pena: Lovely comic with that car. Harry doesn't care about cars, obviously, it just throws whatever. Like, what the fuck is that car?
• 25:50
  Marisol: The most basic, basic car, and it looks so tiny.
• 25:54
  Maria Pena: Me too. Yeah, yeah. Like, it doesn't look like a… yeah.
• 25:59
  Maria Pena: anything… maybe there was a car in the US that looked like that, but it's like, I don't think so.
• 26:06
  Maria Pena: Please say that whatever fits in the panel.
• 26:13
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 26:15
  Marisol: I just love the way Jaime draws expressions on people's faces.
• 26:19
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 26:21
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it's very… because he is Ray, and he's the observer, he observes people very…
• 26:30
  Tad Eggleston: We got a Julio stay.
• 26:33
  Marisol: Yay!
• 26:33
  Tad Eggleston: Who's.
• 26:34
  Maria Pena: I, this was great, with that veteran from the First War who can't talk.
• 26:41
  Maria Pena: He keeps trying to escape.
• 26:43
  Maria Pena: And only… was it Sophia?
• 26:46
  Maria Pena: that… Worked out what the problem was, that…
• 26:52
  Maria Pena: He's in the wrong house or something.
• 26:55
  Tad Eggleston: I think so.
• 26:56
  Maria Pena: Yeah, CPO.
• 26:59
  Maria Pena: that she's… It's not your fault, just sizing through the window and…
• 27:05
  Maria Pena: Because it's not your fault, Mr. People got you mixed up, and now you're here, your family will come. And then this stranger comes into town, and it's him.
• 27:14
  Maria Pena: When he was younger, like a ghost.
• 27:18
  Maria Pena: Isn't it? It's him.
• 27:20
  Maria Pena: It's a thin guy.
• 27:24
  Maria Pena: Tellings.
• 27:24
  Marisol: I like it.
• 27:28
  Marisol: It also could just be the hair, but he makes me think of Fortunato.
• 27:31
  Tad Eggleston: He tests us.
• 27:33
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 27:35
  Tad Eggleston: seeing Fortunados.
• 27:36
  Marisol: Agent.
• 27:37
  Tad Eggleston: story.
• 27:38
  Marisol: Right. It doesn't quite have the same, you know, variation somewhat.
• 27:43
  Maria Pena: Wait, no.
• 27:45
  Maria Pena: Oh, no, no, it's not him.
• 27:47
  Maria Pena: I thought it was some kind of magic realism. This is the guy that was supposed to be that other guy. Looks like him.
• 27:54
  Maria Pena: But they didn't recon… people didn't recognize him, they got mixed up.
• 27:59
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 28:00
  Maria Pena: So this guy has come back.
• 28:03
  Maria Pena: is the actual person that came from that town. They got mixed up by the, with the,
• 28:12
  Maria Pena: with the… this… veteran that can't talk. And finally.
• 28:19
  Maria Pena: They swap back, so the petrol gets taken.
• 28:26
  Maria Pena: It's good to be home. Okay, I got… I got confused. Yeah, no, no, yeah, I thought it was… it was some kind of weird magic realism thing, you know, like…
• 28:35
  Maria Pena: Like, he came in spirit to…
• 28:39
  Maria Pena: To sort things out, but it wasn't…
• 28:42
  Marisol: I mean, I would have believed that, too.
• 28:45
  Maria Pena: Because, you know, we're used to kind of that sort of surreal.
• 28:49
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 28:51
  Marisol: It's been here since the beginning.
• 28:54
  Maria Pena: Yeah… So, yeah, so, yeah. Oh, this was great.
• 28:59
  Maria Pena: Regular inherits.
• 29:03
  Tad Eggleston: Back to… to Doyle, and Viv, and Ray, and…
• 29:08
  Tad Eggleston: Doyle getting into a massive fistfight.
• 29:11
  Maria Pena: That was a great fist fight.
• 29:14
  Maria Pena: The panel top right on page 11.
• 29:18
  Maria Pena: It's,
• 29:18
  Marisol: Oof.
• 29:19
  Maria Pena: That's, like, you can… Just the poses of everything.
• 29:24
  Tad Eggleston: No, I think…
• 29:25
  Marisol: And the car in the middle panel right there with…
• 29:28
  Marisol: Doyle's busted face, and then Ray's face being in shadow.
• 29:34
  Tad Eggleston: So, I love this bottom corner.
• 29:37
  Tad Eggleston: the… the… I never got to tell Doyle that I never got to get got with the frog mouth last night, that I slept on her stinking couch, and that was it. Seemed a little futile to mention on this particular day. I don't know.
• 29:52
  Tad Eggleston: But the panel is, like…
• 29:57
  Maria Pena: the looming image of Viv.
• 29:59
  Maria Pena: Yay!
• 30:00
  Tad Eggleston: it, it, it's like was straddling him, but then you.
• 30:04
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 30:04
  Tad Eggleston: Him in his suit, looking up.
• 30:06
  Tad Eggleston: at her…
• 30:07
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 30:08
  Tad Eggleston: at her face.
• 30:10
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Tad Eggleston: You know, it's just… it's really well composed there.
• 30:15
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 30:17
  Marisol: Oh, yeah.
• 30:21
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 30:22
  Tad Eggleston: With a little crush.
• 30:23
  Marisol: We have copies.
• 30:26
  Maria Pena: Yes, I'll be trying different glasses.
• 30:30
  Tad Eggleston: I, I definitely, I definitely appreciate the, Harry Carey call-out.
• 30:37
  Maria Pena: He's very caring.
• 30:39
  Tad Eggleston: Who's Harry Carey? Harry Carey was the,
• 30:43
  Tad Eggleston: Cubs play-by-play announcer in my youth.
• 30:47
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 30:48
  Marisol: Oh.
• 30:49
  Maria Pena: Okay.
• 30:51
  Tad Eggleston: You can find much of his stuff on YouTube.
• 30:54
  Tad Eggleston: And Will Ferrell used to impersonate him on Saturday Night Live.
• 30:59
  Marisol: Huh.
• 30:59
  Maria Pena: Amen.
• 31:00
  Marisol: I'm sure I know who that is if I hear the voice.
• 31:03
  Tad Eggleston: But… but this is… this is… Jaime was definitely actually doing Harry Carey.
• 31:11
  Maria Pena: Holy cow!
• 31:12
  Tad Eggleston: Jaime, Jaime… You know, it would be more like, holy cow! Cubs win! Cubs win! The Cubs win!
• 31:22
  Maria Pena: Thank you.
• 31:23
  Tad Eggleston: The ecstasy of victory versus the agony of defeat!
• 31:32
  Tad Eggleston: He's also the one that brought Take Me Out to the Ball Game to Wrigley.
• 31:36
  Marisol: Oh!
• 31:37
  Marisol: Very nice.
• 31:44
  Tad Eggleston: I also love.
• 31:44
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that's Hopi, Hopi flirting with the, with the, the glasses lady.
• 31:53
  Tad Eggleston: I love how her girlfriend just… she's like, knows. She's like.
• 31:57
  Maria Pena: like, social…
• 31:58
  Tad Eggleston: She must have been cute.
• 32:00
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 32:02
  Maria Pena: Frisciado.
• 32:04
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 32:04
  Maria Pena: I wouldn't be happy with that.
• 32:07
  Tad Eggleston: No.
• 32:09
  Maria Pena: It's like, huh.
• 32:11
  Tad Eggleston: And I think eventually she wasn't.
• 32:14
  Maria Pena: Right.
• 32:16
  Tad Eggleston: Because that's not who Hopi's with now.
• 32:19
  Maria Pena: Right.
• 32:23
  Tad Eggleston: And this was…
• 32:25
  Maria Pena: Erase me.
• 32:27
  Tad Eggleston: Ray, dream, interlude…
• 32:30
  Maria Pena: it.
• 32:31
  Maria Pena: Ser or no ser.
• 32:35
  Maria Pena: thick title.
• 32:42
  Maria Pena: Oh, so this is the origin story of,
• 32:47
  Tad Eggleston: Petra's first husband?
• 32:49
  Maria Pena: I'll start Petra's first husband.
• 32:51
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 32:53
  Maria Pena: You have a special line to pick up women.
• 32:59
  Maria Pena: There's a sacred trust between children and the people who take care of him.
• 33:06
  Maria Pena: And then Petra finally… Tells me, well, that's a good line.
• 33:12
  Tad Eggleston: Such a venous line. My teacher said, now I'll have two daddies. You and my old daddy. She said it's a gift from God to me.
• 33:20
  Tad Eggleston: I wish I had a new Barbie instead.
• 33:27
  Marisol: God, I adore Venus so much.
• 33:31
  Tad Eggleston: them at her, Petra. Can't you be happy for me this one day, Venus? I'm pretty happy eating this big ol' hunk of cake!
• 33:39
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 33:47
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 33:49
  Marisol: I think that bottom panel on page… what was it 7?
• 33:53
  Marisol: And Venus saying she wished she had a Barbie is my favorite of this.
• 33:57
  Tad Eggleston: That's so good. So good.
• 33:59
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 34:04
  Marisol: Oh, she's just the best.
• 34:10
  Tad Eggleston: And…
• 34:11
  Tad Eggleston: I can't remember, did we… did we see this story from somebody else's perspective? Because I feel like we actually saw it at one point where we knew why
• 34:24
  Tad Eggleston: Fritz decided that it was time to be honest.
• 34:27
  Tad Eggleston: Whereas here, like, Petra being told is, like, an off-screen type of thing.
• 34:36
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 34:41
  Maria Pena: Yeah, I don't, I can't recall.
• 34:45
  Marisol: Maybe so.
• 34:46
  Tad Eggleston: Wasn't Petrus cheating on David?
• 34:51
  Tad Eggleston: Because weren't they, like, lab partners, and she had an affair going with somebody else at the lab?
• 34:56
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:57
  Marisol: Remember that.
• 35:02
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 35:05
  Maria Pena: Maybe there was a,
• 35:09
  Maria Pena: It's just kind of hard when…
• 35:12
  Maria Pena: She has to… she gives up a kid.
• 35:15
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 35:16
  Maria Pena: They're… Utah, yes.
• 35:22
  Maria Pena: Oh, the, the seahog, that was kind of, interesting. There was a bit of Seahawk at the beginning of…
• 35:31
  Maria Pena: Somewhere in this episode, or somewhere…
• 35:34
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and then we've got some Seahawk on the,
• 35:38
  Maria Pena: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but you don't actually see this e-ho, but before… Somewhere in there, the beginning.
• 35:47
  Maria Pena: Brits, or someone is waving at the seal.
• 35:53
  Maria Pena: I mean, it's actually this monster coming out of the water.
• 35:59
  Maria Pena: So, that was his first, wife.
• 36:04
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 36:04
  Maria Pena: Darlene.
• 36:08
  Maria Pena: Here's looking at the receiver.
• 36:11
  Maria Pena: It does look like a home.
• 36:22
  Marisol: Ugh.
• 36:23
  Maria Pena: Yeah, this is very…
• 36:30
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 36:31
  Maria Pena: memory, to, like, remember the other… because he tells a story that's sort of a… you know, it's not non-linear, it's,
• 36:40
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 36:41
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and this is one of the reasons why I think that once we get done with… with the… the…
• 36:48
  Tad Eggleston: Reading issue by issue. We should go through in their… their phantographics
• 36:55
  Tad Eggleston: their 11 Rockets library editions, because those are more… Adapted to be…
• 37:01
  Marisol: Story by story.
• 37:02
  Tad Eggleston: Story by story, linear.
• 37:06
  Marisol: That would be nice.
• 37:07
  Tad Eggleston: Now.
• 37:10
  Marisol: Hopefully we don't have to try to, like, think back.
• 37:13
  Marisol: And rely off our memory of several months ago.
• 37:17
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and we'll also have our memories, so hopefully we'll all come together as we… as we read…
• 37:24
  Marisol: Yes.
• 37:24
  Tad Eggleston: So it'll be a little bit of each.
• 37:26
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 37:28
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 37:29
  Maria Pena: Okay.
• 37:30
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, let's talk some favorite panels. I know…
• 37:36
  Tad Eggleston: My favorite Jaime panel, obviously, is In the Lovin' Rockets.
• 37:41
  Tad Eggleston: It's the… the one that I was talking about where we're…
• 37:46
  Tad Eggleston: Ray is… is saying that he didn't have the heart to tell
• 37:51
  Tad Eggleston: Doyle that he never got, got.
• 37:54
  Maria Pena: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 37:55
  Tad Eggleston: At the same time, dreaming of getting God.
• 37:59
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 37:59
  Marisol: It's a beautiful one.
• 38:02
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 38:04
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that's good. Dream sequence.
• 38:08
  Maria Pena: Okay, but yeah, I know what you mean.
• 38:10
  Maria Pena: It's very, it's almost like 1940s.
• 38:15
  Maria Pena: film, I don't know.
• 38:19
  Maria Pena: Shit.
• 38:20
  Tad Eggleston: It definitely has a, a, like, movie poster feel to it.
• 38:24
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yes. Sure.
• 38:26
  Maria Pena: Yes, that's…
• 38:28
  Marisol: Especially with the all-black background.
• 38:30
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 38:34
  Maria Pena: Hmm… So…
• 38:36
  Marisol: I picked the one above that.
• 38:39
  Marisol: Mostly because I just noticed, like, zooming into it.
• 38:42
  Marisol: that I can't tell if Doyle is looking, like.
• 38:47
  Marisol: Straight ahead, and just being, like, that…
• 38:50
  Marisol: Silence, not looking at anybody, not saying anything in the car after his fight, or if he's looking out the window.
• 38:58
  Maria Pena: I was looking ahead, I think, and what you see there in the corner of his eye is blood from getting killed in the eye.
• 39:09
  Maria Pena: I think that's, like, a bloodshot eye, you know, like, you know.
• 39:12
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 39:13
  Maria Pena: But he's a pupil, and he's, you know, he's… I… His, eyeline is definitely… to the front.
• 39:25
  Tad Eggleston: He's definitely got a bruised cheek.
• 39:27
  Tad Eggleston: Bloody nose…
• 39:29
  Marisol: Oh, I see exactly what you mean. Yeah. I did not zoom in enough when I first looked at it.
• 39:36
  Marisol: But where are you looking, sir?
• 39:39
  Marisol: I cannot tell.
• 39:42
  Tad Eggleston: Did you say that you're picking that one, or were you just looking at that one?
• 39:46
  Marisol: No, I'm taking that one.
• 39:48
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 39:50
  Maria Pena: Well, mine is the, the one that I've mentioned before with Ray in the couch… on the couch.
• 39:57
  Maria Pena: getting started.
• 39:59
  Marisol: scared.
• 40:00
  Maria Pena: by broke mouth, yelling.
• 40:03
  Maria Pena: Because I thought that was… I mean, there's so many unusuals here.
• 40:07
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah.
• 40:09
  Maria Pena: But…
• 40:10
  Tad Eggleston: There is nobody in comics that makes more frameable panels that.
• 40:15
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 40:19
  Tad Eggleston: So you talking the oh-fucking-shit, or the…
• 40:23
  Maria Pena: Yeah, all fucking shit, yeah.
• 40:25
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 40:26
  Marisol: There we go.
• 40:27
  Maria Pena: I mean, you know, that's not necessarily frameable, but it… it's very.
• 40:32
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it is, if you're okay having boobs on your wall.
• 40:39
  Marisol: That's fair.
• 40:40
  Maria Pena: But he…
• 40:40
  Marisol: Some people.
• 40:41
  Maria Pena: Definitely, you know, like, comic book-wise, I love a…
• 40:47
  Maria Pena: Tells our own story so beautifully, you know, even the fact that the, the Yale…
• 40:54
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 40:55
  Maria Pena: It's coming and going out of the page, so, you know, out of the panel, it's… the sound.
• 41:01
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 41:01
  Maria Pena: traveling outside of the breaking through, so it just says, that's a fucking loud,
• 41:07
  Tad Eggleston: that the…
• 41:08
  Maria Pena: the motion.
• 41:08
  Tad Eggleston: In lines as she quivers.
• 41:11
  Tad Eggleston: the…
• 41:12
  Maria Pena: him, like, woo!
• 41:13
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 41:14
  Maria Pena: up in the air.
• 41:15
  Tad Eggleston: The, the, the toe sticking out of his sock, the sweats…
• 41:20
  Maria Pena: like, book…
• 41:21
  Tad Eggleston: Just like…
• 41:21
  Maria Pena: sliding…
• 41:22
  Tad Eggleston: Everything about it.
• 41:25
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 41:27
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 41:28
  Tad Eggleston: about it is… is crazy good.
• 41:31
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it's explosive.
• 41:35
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, is anybody picking a Betto.
• 41:38
  Maria Pena: Boom.
• 41:38
  Tad Eggleston: this one…
• 41:39
  Maria Pena: Oh my gosh.
• 41:40
  Tad Eggleston: the other one.
• 41:41
  Maria Pena: I think I should look at, yeah, the Beros on this one, because… Well, I…
• 41:48
  Tad Eggleston: I know.
• 41:49
  Tad Eggleston: I'm pretty certain mine's gonna come from Louvre's Comics and Stories.
• 41:54
  Maria Pena: There's not that many on these. I did like that really high moon.
• 42:01
  Maria Pena: The beginning of,
• 42:04
  Marisol: Oh, that is pretty.
• 42:05
  Maria Pena: They…
• 42:06
  Tad Eggleston: This one?
• 42:07
  Maria Pena: Where'd it go? No… yeah, that one. Yeah, I quite like that.
• 42:12
  Maria Pena: That's it.
• 42:13
  Maria Pena: You know, that's… That's great, because…
• 42:20
  Maria Pena: I mean, it's a whole panel, and it's just sky, and it's moon.
• 42:26
  Maria Pena: But, you know, it's… And it just…
• 42:30
  Maria Pena: Anchors the page right there, but it's… it's really great.
• 42:35
  Maria Pena: So it… and I think it says time has passed.
• 42:39
  Maria Pena: Budget?
• 42:39
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 42:40
  Maria Pena: Or, you know, it's another day or something, I don't know, there's something that… so, yeah, I'll pick that one.
• 42:47
  Tad Eggleston: Def- definitely has the feel of…
• 42:52
  Marisol: Another day going?
• 42:55
  Tad Eggleston: Well, well, it took some years, but it was worth the wait.
• 42:59
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 43:05
  Maria Pena: So he'd have memory loss, and he finally arrives back home, and he finds at least another one.
• 43:11
  Marisol: One year's Later…
• 43:13
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 43:13
  Maria Pena: This man has been, has been, in his town, so it's…
• 43:20
  Tad Eggleston: There were so many good… Beto Panels, but I have to go with the family portrait.
• 43:27
  Marisol: The portrait, yeah, that was mine too.
• 43:31
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 43:33
  Tad Eggleston: It's just…
• 43:38
  Tad Eggleston: Just too good.
• 43:39
  Maria Pena: Jesse Mirand her own.
• 43:41
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 43:45
  Marisol: Still has that thing.
• 43:49
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 43:54
  Tad Eggleston: No, I hate it.
• 44:00
  Tad Eggleston: For next week, or whenever we can manage to…
• 44:04
  Tad Eggleston: To have the stars align again.
• 44:08
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 44:10
  Maria Pena: We'll do them Rockets.
• 44:12
  Tad Eggleston: It implies at the end of… of… the Luba Comics and Stories… that… With the letter page, anyway.
• 44:24
  Tad Eggleston: that… There was gonna be… that,
• 44:37
  Tad Eggleston: New Stories of Old Palomar was a series, but I don't have it digitally.
• 44:42
  Tad Eggleston: I only have it collected, so I think rather than trying to figure out a way to read that individually, unless I find it somewhere.
• 44:52
  Tad Eggleston: We're just gonna go to Love & Rockets Single Issues.
• 44:57
  Maria Pena: Okay.
• 44:57
  Tad Eggleston: Now, so it'll be… Right.
• 45:00
  Tad Eggleston: Volume 2, number 13, all on its… all on its lonesome.
• 45:06
  Maria Pena: And it's good to see you all the cover.
• 45:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I was about to say, do we wanna, do we wanna, quickly preview a little bit.
• 45:15
  Maria Pena: See how he's up? It's an upside-down pig, that's little eggs.
• 45:19
  Maria Pena: Medicare.
• 45:22
  Marisol: Let's get a little sneak peek at it.
• 45:23
  Tad Eggleston: Let's go take a little sneak peek. Love and Rockets number 13…
• 45:32
  Maria Pena: Oh.
• 45:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yep, we got the Seahawk right on the cover.
• 45:40
  Tad Eggleston: Song of the Seahawk is our, our lead-off story.
• 45:45
  Marisol: I was gonna go.
• 45:51
  Tad Eggleston: We get some… some Fritz and the Earthians in…
• 45:55
  Tad Eggleston: Or at least the big poster.
• 45:58
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 45:59
  Maria Pena: Or I guess he's on his panel already.
• 46:03
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, it has one of my favorite stories.
• 46:10
  Tad Eggleston: Cause I like me a baseball story.
• 46:20
  Tad Eggleston: Day by day.
• 46:21
  Marisol: It was more hopey.
• 46:25
  Maria Pena: Great. Well, I'm looking forward to it.
• 46:32
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is definitely… Where everybody's starting to, like… Grow up.
• 46:42
  Tad Eggleston: Or at least… at least the Hoppers crew is starting to grow up. A lot of the Palomar crew has had to grow up already.
• 46:50
  Maria Pena: I had to do it a bit earlier, I think.
• 46:53
  Tad Eggleston: But this is, this is… This is definitely a period where we're seeing some of the… the transition…
• 47:02
  Tad Eggleston: Into a little bit more responsibility, a little less… carefree.
• 47:10
  Tad Eggleston: For the hopperish crew.
• 47:12
  Tad Eggleston: Song.
• 47:13
  Tad Eggleston: As always, so much fun to see you guys.
• 47:18
  Tad Eggleston: I love that we're just moving along. This was…
• 47:24
  Tad Eggleston: I've actually been keeping track of numbers, because I'm up over 900 episodes, and I don't want to… don't want to, like, not notice it when we hit 1,000.
• 47:33
  Tad Eggleston: So, I've been keeping track of all of the numbers a little bit more.
• 47:37
  Maria Pena: Oh, wow.
• 47:38
  Tad Eggleston: This was… the… I'm gonna say 75th? But I could be wrong, I'll find out really quick.
• 47:54
  Maria Pena: Maybe quicker than that!
• 47:56
  Tad Eggleston: I know, I know, I know, I know.
• 47:59
  Maria Pena: People are like, okay.
• 48:00
  Tad Eggleston: Signed itself.
• 48:01
  Maria Pena: You're gonna have.
• 48:02
  Tad Eggleston: It's signed ground!
• 48:04
  Maria Pena: salad.
• 48:06
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I'm sorry, 82nd.
• 48:12
  Tad Eggleston: 80… 82 times we've gotten together.
• 48:15
  Tad Eggleston: at least…
• 48:16
  Tad Eggleston: 22 times Marisol and I have gotten together. Maria, you jumped on at, like, 19, 18, something like that?
• 48:22
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 48:23
  Tad Eggleston: So, you've been around for, like, 60-some-odd.
• 48:27
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 48:28
  Maria Pena: It's always in it, yeah.
• 48:29
  Tad Eggleston: It is. Oh, yeah. It's been fun, I like it.
• 48:32
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, we still have so much more to go.
• 48:34
  Tad Eggleston: Absolutely.
• 48:37
  Tad Eggleston: So… Alright, for 22 Panels, this has been Maria, Marisol, and myself, and the Love & Rockets Book Club. We will see you…
• 48:46
  Tad Eggleston: After the next page.