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The Next Round: Nick Saban's SEC Return, Alabama-Georgia Stakes & NFL Power Rankings | Hour 2 · The Next Round

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Speaker 1: Hour number two of the next round, presented by Hard
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Speaker 1: Rock Bet here on Sport and State.
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Speaker 2: Jim Dunaway, Lance Taylor, Ryan Brown. Got a weather update
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Speaker 2: in just a second before we get to the righteous
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Speaker 2: gemstone locks. But on TV number two, we've got six
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Speaker 2: on our big wall here. Josh Pate is up on
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Speaker 2: Get Up, and they're asking the question, is Saturday a
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Speaker 2: bigger game for Georgia or Alabama, Lance? Bigger game for
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Speaker 2: Georgia or Alabama?
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Speaker 3: Oh.
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Speaker 1: I would say neither.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's, I mean.
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Speaker 1: I mean, give me what it means for a Georgia
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Speaker 1: win or an Alabama win.
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Speaker 2: Just think about where we are. If this was 2010,
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Speaker 2: this would be like. This would be for a playoff spot. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: basically for a playoff spot.
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Speaker 1: And the loser would be out of it.
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Speaker 4: This would be much bigger for Georgia based on Kirby
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Speaker 4: being 2-8 if he hadn't won his last game against Alabama.
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Speaker 1: I've got to look real quick. Georgia's schedule, what they've
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Speaker 1: got left. It's not a time. I mean, their schedule
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Speaker 1: opens up a little bit after this.
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Speaker 2: Alabama, they played nobody and they played virtually nobody after this.
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Speaker 2: This is a tougher schedule for Alabama remaining. I mean,
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Speaker 2: the Florida game in Atlanta looks tougher than it did
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Speaker 2: to start the.
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Speaker 1: Season, right? It's looking less tough after the loss. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but tougher than where you started the season with. But
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Speaker 1: I agree, after the trip to Ole Miss, it looks
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Speaker 1: a little less difficult. The Ole Miss game... Probably looks
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Speaker 1: less difficult than it did, but that is a road game.
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Speaker 4: But at Ole Miss, you can make an argument, it's
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Speaker 4: more difficult than at LSU.
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Speaker 1: Okay. I don't disagree. Missouri looks tougher than it did,
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Speaker 1: but still doesn't worry you that much.
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Speaker 4: Missouri is tougher than A & M, at least at
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Speaker 4: this moment, until A & M possibly beats Missouri on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: At South Carolina, it looks like nothing. Georgia, I mean,
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Speaker 1: those last two. My gosh. It's two bye weeks before
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Speaker 1: the SEC championship.
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Speaker 4: Bringing the JV for the final two weeks.
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Speaker 1: Seems bigger for Alabama as far as, I mean.
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Speaker 2: The pressure point of the rest of the season.
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Speaker 1: Here's the way I would put it. It will be
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Speaker 1: easier for Georgia to rebound from a loss than Alabama.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 2: If, if Alabama wins this one, they still have two, two, uh,
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Speaker 2: mulligans in their pocket.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think we'll know more about, like, if Georgia
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Speaker 4: loses this game by 3-7-10, you're not concerned with Georgia.
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Speaker 4: If Alabama goes out and dominates or something, then, you know,
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden you're like, damn, this Alabama team
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Speaker 4: might be the best in college football. And at the
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Speaker 4: same time, if Keelan, for whatever reason, got exposed and
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Speaker 4: turned it over three times, then you would be a
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Speaker 4: little concerned. But I think both of these teams are fine.
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Speaker 4: I think they're both playoff teams, as we talked about.
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Speaker 4: And I think the winner of this is stamped their tickets.
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Speaker 1: And odds are they meet again.
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Speaker 4: Weather update.
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Speaker 1: Weather update. Continues to be positive news again. Every time
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Speaker 1: we get one.
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Speaker 2: Not for the Gulf Coast with this hurricanes making landfall
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Speaker 2: and then the storms as it makes landfall. This is
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Speaker 2: a serious storm. You should take it serious. But as
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Speaker 2: far as Bryant-Denny Stadium and everything going on inside the
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Speaker 2: stadium and outside for tailgating, what's the latest? So Mike Rodak,
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Speaker 2: who covers Alabama, shared this graphic. And it is a
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Speaker 2: Scotty showing it to you if you're watching his own video.
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Speaker 2: If not, I'll do my best to describe it. But basically,
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Speaker 2: this is from one of the models the National Weather
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Speaker 2: Service uses, which is showing Saturday 8 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Central Time. That's the start of game day. That is
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Speaker 1: the start of game day. And if you know your geography,
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Speaker 1: you can find where Tuscaloosa is on that map, and
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Speaker 1: it is in a clear area. So at least that
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Speaker 1: one forecast is showing that the weather might be even
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Speaker 1: out of Tuscaloosa for the start of game day, which
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Speaker 1: would also be the start of your tailgating. So again,
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Speaker 1: every time we get a weather forecast, it gets more
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Speaker 1: and more positive for this game. And that's even positive
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Speaker 1: for game day, which there were discussions of it moving inside. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: all very interesting there. I will also say this is
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Speaker 1: in terms of the field. Alabama has got the sub-air
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Speaker 1: system like they use at Augusta National. I remember when
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Speaker 1: they put it in because they talked about it being
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Speaker 1: the one they use at Augusta National. Actually, it was
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Speaker 1: invented in Augusta, Georgia. For those that don't know what
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Speaker 1: that is, it's an underground and Augusta has it in
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Speaker 1: all their greens and, and many of their fairways as well.
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Speaker 1: It's a system that can either suck water out of
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Speaker 1: the turf or add water into the turf as needed.
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Speaker 1: And if you go to Augusta, I've been over there
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Speaker 1: when they're using it. Um, when, was it when I
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Speaker 1: was playing or when I was there for the masters?
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Speaker 1: I can't remember. Um, but at Augusta national, that was
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Speaker 1: clearly a joke. I've never played the course. Um, You
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Speaker 1: can see areas where steam is coming up out of
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Speaker 1: the ground because it's sucking the moisture out, converting it
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Speaker 1: to steam, and releasing it through a vent in the ground.
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Speaker 1: So that's a very high-tech system. So the playing field
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Speaker 1: will be perfect for this game. It's perfect as it
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Speaker 1: can be.
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Speaker 2: Because we have, since that system has been in place,
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Speaker 2: we have brought helicopters to help dry before.
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Speaker 1: But, I mean, that's just... As best as a grass
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Speaker 1: surface can be with a monsoon rain. Yeah, with a
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Speaker 1: sub-air system, you've got as good as anybody's got.
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Speaker 2: It was absolutely a selling point for Saban in recruiting
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Speaker 2: that you're playing on the best surface you possibly can
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Speaker 2: play on.
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Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah. Nick Saban literally had everything you could
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Speaker 1: spend money on. They've got a sub-air system under Bryant-Denny Stadium.
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Speaker 1: That's right. Just like Augusta National. Just like Augusta National.
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Speaker 1: He only went 142. Oh, man. So I'll count that
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Speaker 1: as an L. That's an L.
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Speaker 2: But that was way over what the running total was
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Speaker 2: for Cam Cook. I had Deshaun Bishop good to 150 yards.
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Speaker 1: He went way over that against Auburn.
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Speaker 2: I had Alabama-Mississippi State over the 60.5, way over that one.
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Speaker 2: I had Clemson first half. Plus 9.5. I think that
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Speaker 1: Hit the music, man. Take off the hat.
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Speaker 2: It is time for the Righteous Gemstone Locks of the Week.
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Speaker 1: The robe, please. Thank you, Brooks. Oh, we've got a
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Speaker 1: robe this week?
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Speaker 4: It's a Hydra Live blanket.
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Speaker 1: I left the choir robe. Oh, this looks good. I
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Speaker 1: like that. Here we go. Here we go. Very royal.
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Speaker 1: First one, let's go NFL tonight. Righteous gemstone lots. No
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield again, right, Lance?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jalen Daniels will make his second career start tonight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably couldn't still start at Kansas.
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Speaker 2: I think 8.5 is the spread. I'm good on the
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Speaker 2: Cowboys if you want to tick that up. Cowboys minus
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Speaker 2: 13.5 tonight. Oh, two scores for the Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: Minus 13.5. I'm good with that tonight. Okay.
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Speaker 4: The Bucs, believe it or not, 10 straight one-possession games
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Speaker 4: going back to last year.
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Speaker 1: But, to your point, the.
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Speaker 4: Bucs have lost 13 straight against the number, which is
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Speaker 4: the longest ever.
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Speaker 1: Streak in the Super Bowl era. That's hard to do,
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Speaker 1: losing 13 against another. They have not covered in 13
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Speaker 1: straight games.
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Speaker 4: Did you hear that, bro?
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Speaker 1: I did hear that. That is very difficult to do.
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Speaker 1: Good coaches do what?
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Speaker 4: They win. Great coaches cover.
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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles right now doing neither 0-4. I'm good up
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Speaker 1: to 13.5.
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Speaker 2: goes into penn state i'm good to up to 121
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Speaker 2: rushing yards for king miller this weekend anything to.
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Speaker 1: 121 i'm good with the king miller wherever you get
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Speaker 1: that at hard rock bet this weekend This Penn State
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Speaker 1: team is not good, but I don't trust USC, especially
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Speaker 1: in the Eastern time zone.
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Speaker 4: I gave you those numbers, right?
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Speaker 1: USC in the Eastern time zone? Let me throw this
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Speaker 1: out to you because you have been so big on
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Speaker 1: USC this week, and I did get this confirmed.
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Speaker 4: This is pretty amazing. Hold tight. Two seconds.
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Speaker 1: Pump that music right there, man. So since 2012, USC
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Speaker 1: is just 3-16 straight up, 1-17-1 against the number in
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Speaker 1: games played In the Central and Eastern time zones. One, 17,
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Speaker 1: and one.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So in 19 games, they've only covered once. Yeah. That
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Speaker 1: involves air travel. King Miller on the Trail of Tears
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Speaker 1: running the ball 121. I'm good for him running the football.
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Speaker 1: It's upset Fri-yay here. Righteous gemstone locks here. The Huskies
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Speaker 1: getting on Friday, right? They're a Friday game. Iowa and Washington.
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Speaker 1: I'm good in the over on this one. 41.5.
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Speaker 2: Play the over Huskies in Iowa. That's a righteous gemstone lock.
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Speaker 2: How about you talked about Bear Bachmeier. That's another Friday game.
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Speaker 1: Not a good player. BYU. Bear wears what number?
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Speaker 4: 47.
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Speaker 1: 47. I think he goes under his number in official
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Speaker 1: rushing yards in this game. Less than 47 in rushing
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Speaker 1: yards for Bear Bachmeier.
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Speaker 4: That will be a problem for BYU. Again, no L.J. Martin.
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Speaker 4: Bear Bachmeier was unable to throw.
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Speaker 3: It.
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Speaker 4: I think he had 62 passing yards last week.
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Speaker 1: That was like a loss right there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be a problem.
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Speaker 2: A little problem for Bear Bachmeier this weekend. Red River
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Speaker 2: this weekend. Righteous gemstone lock here. If you can find
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Speaker 2: it in any of the markets, Mateer versus Arch Manning,
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Speaker 2: total touchdowns. Mateer beats Arch Manning in total touchdowns this weekend.
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Speaker 2: That's a righteous gemstone lock.
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Speaker 1: Now, are you including scooping scores and pick sixes? Mateer
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Speaker 1: throws an interception.
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Speaker 4: Or just drops the ball, which he did against Georgia.
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Speaker 1: Mateer either running or throwing them in more than Arch
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Speaker 1: running and throwing them in. I like Mateer. Righteous gemstone lock.
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Speaker 1: That's the biggest one out there. Not as windy as
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Speaker 1: I first wrote this righteous Jim Stone lockdown. Still do
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Speaker 1: the joke, though.
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Speaker 2: For Tuscaloosa. But I have Keelan Russell. I'm good at
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Speaker 2: over one and a half turnovers in this game.
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Speaker 1: Oh, Jim.
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Speaker 2: Over one and a half turnovers for Keelan Russell in
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Speaker 2: this game, interception and or fumble.
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Speaker 1: Only two turnovers were against Kentucky, right?
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Speaker 4: Man, he has been so efficient.
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Speaker 1: You know, his first five starts, he's got a higher
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Speaker 1: total QBR than than either Bryce Young or Ty Simpson
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Speaker 1: had in their first five career starts. That's pretty good
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Speaker 1: company there, yeah. Two more. Nebraska, their big game with Indiana.
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Speaker 1: Matt Rule on Lanterns, the HBO show this past week
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Speaker 1: where he recruited a fictional five-star quarterback. He's about to
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Speaker 1: be 0-10 at Nebraska versus ranked teams. I'm good with
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Speaker 1: Josh Hoover. Four touchdowns or more in this game. Josh
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Speaker 1: Hoover with a big game. Total touchdowns, running or throwing
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Speaker 1: them in.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Josh Hoover, four or more touchdowns this weekend. I'm good
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Speaker 1: at it.
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Speaker 4: How far do you think you have to go back
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Speaker 4: last time they beat a ranked team? I'm talking about
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Speaker 4: number of games.
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Speaker 1: Nebraska?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because Matt Rule is 0-9 against top 25s in Lincoln,
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Speaker 4: but this number goes back a lot further than Matt Rule.
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Speaker 1: Oh, man. Oh. I'll go. Is this going to sound crazy?
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Speaker 1: Is it 120 games? No. It's 31.
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Speaker 4: No, I'm talking about.
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Speaker 1: A ranked team?
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Speaker 4: Since playing a ranked team. They've lost 31 straight playing
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Speaker 4: ranked teams.
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I got you. 31 is a big number.
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Speaker 4: That is a huge number. 120 would have taken us
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Speaker 4: back probably 25, 30 years.
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Speaker 5: No, no.
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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying now. I was just going
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Speaker 1: total number. Yeah, but the fact that he will be
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Speaker 1: 0-10 if they lose this weekend just at Nebraska... It's
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue.
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Speaker 4: It will kill that 5-0 start.
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Speaker 1: Last one. UCLA on the road at Oregon.
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Speaker 2: I do feel like Ryola, who will get to start
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Speaker 2: again because Dante's out, comes back to earth a lot
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Speaker 2: in this one. The good news is Oregon's defense steps up.
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Speaker 2: I've got UCLA.
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Speaker 1: I'm good up to 128.5 under rushing yards. I don't
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Speaker 1: think they go over 128 rushing for UCLA. That's your
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Speaker 1: key stat in the game. Under 128.5 rushing for UCLA.
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Speaker 1: Oregon wins going away.
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Speaker 4: Well, look, they're only allowing 3.6 yards per carry. On
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Speaker 4: the other side, UCLA leads the FES almost 7 yards
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Speaker 4: a carry.
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Speaker 1: They lead it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, 282 yards a game on the ground.
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Speaker 4: And Oregon's run defense has been really good.
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Speaker 1: 128.5 or less. Under that. Under that. That's your righteous
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Speaker 1: gemstone locks for the weekend. Do you like any of them, Lance? Um....
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Speaker 4: Not really. I mean, I do like Oregon to win
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Speaker 4: this game. And, boy, that is a drastic, drastic drop-off
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Speaker 4: for UCLA.
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Speaker 1: That would be 160 yards below their average.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, like UCLA at that point, I would almost play
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Speaker 4: under their team total, whatever that number is going to be.
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Speaker 4: Like UCLA might score 10 points if that's the situation.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 2: Forrester said in a very Brown-like move, he wanted to
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Speaker 2: see me disrobe on the show. So you want me
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Speaker 2: to take this off on camera?
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Speaker 1: It's time to disrobe. Yeah. So we disrobe on the
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Speaker 1: show here. Righteous Jim Stone locks her over. You. You.
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Speaker 1: You jovial Southsiders. Take it easy. I'm Japanese. And I'm
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Speaker 1: sure the chat room says put the hat back on. Yes.
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Speaker 1: The music sounds a little bit like Bad Beats music.
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Speaker 1: And they were saying, wait a minute, have I stumbled
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Speaker 1: into Bad Beats here? I forgot about that.
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Speaker 4: Dunaway has never wanted to take something and make it
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Speaker 4: our own.
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Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Well, I came up with this
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Speaker 1: idea last week about this. 17 minutes before the start
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Speaker 1: of the show technically tyler found the music so tyler
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Speaker 1: was the one that shows that which is the perfect
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Speaker 1: music for this segment never change it yeah but it
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Speaker 1: does sound a little bit like the bad beats music
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Speaker 1: yeah forrester did the graphics and uh i made the
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Speaker 1: pics and i was the thought of us ever having
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Speaker 1: episode two was an upset and i did so well
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Speaker 1: i forgot all about it until brown about 17 minutes
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Speaker 1: before the show said hey are we doing the righteous
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Speaker 1: gemstone locks again you were supposed to go borrow well
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Speaker 1: that was how jim remembered the segment because i walked
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Speaker 1: in and i was like no robe you didn't get
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Speaker 1: the robe And I was like, ah.
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Speaker 5: He had me look like the pastoral intern at like
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Speaker 5: a mega church that walks out with the stool for
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Speaker 5: the pastor.
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Speaker 1: That's true. I did ask for a robe. I have
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Speaker 1: a contact. And the word sacrilegious may have been thrown out.
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Speaker 1: If it's a choir robe, it's not. I think a
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Speaker 1: choir robe will work.
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Speaker 2: A lot of choir robes have crosses on them.
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Speaker 1: You can probably find one of those with the haunted
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Speaker 1: store spirit. Spirit Halloween.
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Speaker 3: And I even offered my Pop-Tart costume.
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Speaker 1: I've got that in the car ready to go.
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Speaker 4: The Righteous Gemstones probably sat religious enough.
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Speaker 1: Probably so. I think we're okay there.
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Speaker 4: Have you seen the show?
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Speaker 1: Oh, you mean the show. I thought you meant Jim's segment.
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Speaker 4: The show is awesome. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely sacrilegious. So you in a white collar, is
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Speaker 1: that sacrilegious? Yeah, that would be really sacrilegious. I'm just
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Speaker 1: trying to think through this.
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Speaker 4: Well, you're playing a part. Like if somebody plays a
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Speaker 4: priest or a preacher or a pastor in a movie,
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Speaker 4: I mean, you're just playing a part.
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Speaker 1: That's right. Just playing a part.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if I started like, you know, I'll take,
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Speaker 2: we'll say Notre Dame football. having 17 penalties in this,
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Speaker 2: that we penalize more than you are in Leviticus.
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Speaker 4: That gets sacrilegious.
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Speaker 1: I don't think we need biblical references, probably. That gets sacrilegious.
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Speaker 1: Let's don't go crazy here.
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Speaker 2: When we come back, we will jump into a little
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Speaker 2: NFL tonight and what's happening this weekend and get to
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Speaker 2: our NFL power rankings and then turn back to some
16:38
Speaker 2: more college football. All that right here on Hard Rock
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Speaker 2: Bets next round on Sporting State. We continue on Sporting State,
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Speaker 2: and we're already getting legends for the SEC Championship game weekend.
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Speaker 2: First off, do you all believe this is the last
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Speaker 2: SEC Championship game ever?
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Speaker 4: I do. I mean, it's sad, but I think where
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Speaker 4: we are right now, there's just not the buzz that
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Speaker 4: it once was. It used to be, for sure, one
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Speaker 4: of the top four or five games in all of
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Speaker 4: college football. But where we are right now with the expansion,
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Speaker 4: especially if we go 24, it's impossible.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say... before Scott puts the graphic up,
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Speaker 1: because I want you all to guess Alabama's, I'm going
17:16
Speaker 1: to say it's the best class I can remember. So
17:18
Speaker 1: that may indicate that this is the last one. They
17:21
Speaker 1: may be trying to go out with a bang on
17:22
Speaker 1: this one. For those that don't know, the SEC honors
17:26
Speaker 1: legends before the SEC champion. If you're a Vandy and
17:28
Speaker 1: Ole Miss fan, you've never been to this. They honor
17:31
Speaker 1: legends before the SEC championship game. Out on the field,
17:35
Speaker 1: they introduce them. We have been very honored that the
17:38
Speaker 1: SEC has asked us. They do a stage in the
17:42
Speaker 1: SEC Fan Fair next door to the stadium. They've asked
17:44
Speaker 1: us the last couple of years to come over and
17:46
Speaker 1: interview all the legends for the assembled crowd there. It's
17:50
Speaker 1: a very nice honor for us, and we've met some
17:52
Speaker 1: very good people you've seen on the show, actually. Chase
17:54
Speaker 1: Daniel last year, Ben Xiong, people like that. It's a
17:58
Speaker 1: fantastic event. So each school has a legend, even Texas
18:02
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma guys that didn't even play in the SEC,
18:04
Speaker 1: and they're honored before the game. Who do you think
18:05
Speaker 1: Alabama's is for the 2026 class?
18:09
Speaker 4: Now, is there a time? So it's somebody that is just.
18:13
Speaker 1: Anybody that's ever played there. It doesn't have to be recent, yeah.
18:16
Speaker 3: Oh.
18:16
Speaker 1: I will say most of these are not recent, in fact. Yeah,
18:19
Speaker 1: but they don't do coaches, right? They do do coaches. Okay,
18:22
Speaker 1: because you said players. Yeah, R.C. Slocum was there last year, remember?
18:25
Speaker 1: That's right.
18:26
Speaker 4: I'm randomly going to go Cornelius Bennett.
18:29
Speaker 1: Not Cornelius Bennett. Jim Dunaway?
18:33
Speaker 4: I was going as random as I could.
18:34
Speaker 1: That is fairly random. He was an SEC legend.
18:37
Speaker 4: He was a long time ago.
18:38
Speaker 1: I mean, places like Alabama, unfortunately, guys are never going
18:41
Speaker 1: to get recognized in this because there have been so many.
18:44
Speaker 1: There's some schools I think they kind of have to scrape. Well,
18:46
Speaker 1: I mean, Mark Ingram's gotten a lot of play because
18:48
Speaker 1: he's going in the College Football Hall of Fame, but
18:51
Speaker 1: I think that gets a separate recognition maybe at the game.
18:54
Speaker 2: I'm going to say from that team... And how would
18:56
Speaker 2: he do that?
18:57
Speaker 4: Because he'd be part of Fox for Big Ten.
18:59
Speaker 1: That's true. He may not be there. I'm going to say...
19:03
Speaker 1: From that same team, Rolando McLean. We'll have to debate
19:09
Speaker 1: whether or not this person has earned it, but the
19:13
Speaker 1: 2026 legend for the University of Alabama is Nick Saban.
19:18
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Nick Saban's a pretty obvious choice,
19:20
Speaker 1: isn't it?
19:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the final year of the... Tell me
19:23
Speaker 4: it's the final year of the SEC championship game without
19:26
Speaker 4: telling me it's the final year of the SEC championship game.
19:29
Speaker 4: We've got to shoot high on these next ones.
19:30
Speaker 1: Nick Saban in. Felix Jones for Arkansas, well-deserved. Benji Rowland,
19:35
Speaker 1: the Auburn great defender. Our buddy Chris Doering. Congrats to
19:39
Speaker 1: Chris Doering going in. Florida Gators. Georgia head coach Mark Richt.
19:43
Speaker 1: If you think Alabama and Georgia play in the conference
19:45
Speaker 1: championship game, how about that? I mean, there's another one. Yeah.
19:48
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, the great guitarist. receiver.
19:51
Speaker 4: Clay's neighbor, by the way.
19:52
Speaker 1: Oh, really? Yeah. Patrick Peterson, one of the best defensive
19:56
Speaker 1: backs ever to have done it. Another great one.
19:58
Speaker 4: There at LSU.
19:59
Speaker 1: Tony Bennett from Ole Miss. Darius Slay from Mississippi State.
20:03
Speaker 1: Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri. The legendary Billy Sims for Oklahoma. Wow.
20:08
Speaker 1: How about that? Sidney Rice at South Carolina. John Henderson,
20:13
Speaker 1: the great defensive lineman from Tennessee. Ricky Williams from Texas.
20:19
Speaker 1: You got Billy.
20:20
Speaker 4: Sims and Rick DeWitt.
20:23
Speaker 1: Texas A & M, Sam Adams and Casey Hayward, the
20:27
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt representative.
20:29
Speaker 4: Some big-time names.
20:29
Speaker 1: That's as good a class as I can remember. You're
20:32
Speaker 1: not kidding. Are we slated to be back there? We
20:35
Speaker 1: have been invited, yes.
20:38
Speaker 4: By the way.
20:39
Speaker 1: We'll have some pretty good interviews. I look forward to those. Friday,
20:43
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Speaker 2: As tomorrow is the public deadline date on which the
20:47
Speaker 2: negotiating period on ESPN to offer exclusively what they think
20:52
Speaker 2: an expanded 2014 playoff would be. That, according to Ross Dellinger,
20:56
Speaker 2: so that window closes tomorrow. And many people believe that
21:01
Speaker 2: with everybody on board except the SEC who's open to it,
21:07
Speaker 2: that we are moving quickly forward. down the line Ross
21:10
Speaker 2: Dellinger has a big story at on three sports today
21:13
Speaker 2: if you want to get the details but many people
21:15
Speaker 2: believe by December 1st we'll have the announcement of a
21:18
Speaker 2: 24 team college football playoff next year and I will
21:23
Speaker 2: just say this up front I just asked you which
21:26
Speaker 2: game which team Alabama or Georgia is this game more
21:30
Speaker 2: important for this weekend that's with a 12 team if
21:33
Speaker 2: we were doing a 24 team playoff how important is
21:37
Speaker 2: this game at all this weekend I mean I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know you can drop three games.
21:41
Speaker 1: The only thing that would be on the line here
21:44
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21:48
Speaker 1: there's eight buys. No, everybody plays at least one on-campus game, right?
21:54
Speaker 1: There will be two rounds of on-campus. Yeah, at least one, though.
21:56
Speaker 1: So you at least get to host the second round on-campus.
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Speaker 1: If you have the buy, yes. If you have the buy.
22:00
Speaker 1: So that would be the most important thing coming out
22:02
Speaker 1: of this game. But with eight buys, the loser of
22:04
Speaker 1: this game could easily finish with one loss and host
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Speaker 2: First, Lance, are the Eagles tanking now with the Lane
23:24
Speaker 2: Johnson retirement for mental health reasons? They trade away Cam Juergens.
23:29
Speaker 2: For a fifth round next year and a second round
23:31
Speaker 2: in 2028, Landon Dickerson's on the shelf already. What's Howie
23:36
Speaker 2: Roseman doing? Are they in a tank situation?
23:40
Speaker 4: They're not tanking right now. I don't know if this
23:41
Speaker 4: is a statement on this offensive line has been really,
23:44
Speaker 4: really bad. You know, a prayer's up to Lane Johnson.
23:48
Speaker 4: You know, mental health is, you know, I have this
23:51
Speaker 4: conversation with a lot of people all the time. Mental
23:52
Speaker 4: and physical health, they go hand in hand. So you
23:55
Speaker 4: hope that he gets in a good place really, really soon.
23:58
Speaker 1: With all that said, they've lost back-to-back games.
24:00
Speaker 4: The game against the Bears was baffling because they were
24:02
Speaker 4: dominated by a backup quarterback and what Case Keenum was
24:07
Speaker 4: able to do. But last week, they absolutely blew that game.
24:10
Speaker 4: They're still 2-1-2. So I don't understand. Howie Roseman's not
24:14
Speaker 4: a guy that's going to tank. Devontae Smith will be
24:17
Speaker 4: back sooner than later. Saquon will be back sooner than later.
24:19
Speaker 1: I saw Orlovsky and Dan covers the whole NFL. But
24:22
Speaker 1: as you know, for years of him coming on this show,
24:24
Speaker 1: his wife's a Philadelphia fan. He's lived in Philadelphia before.
24:28
Speaker 1: So I think he probably is familiar with that franchise
24:31
Speaker 1: as any of the other franchises. And he called it
24:35
Speaker 1: a rebuild yesterday on social media in response to the
24:38
Speaker 1: Cam Juergens trade. on the heels of the Lane Johnson announcement,
24:41
Speaker 1: the rebuild is on. So, I mean, those are Orlovsky's words.
24:45
Speaker 2: Well, if you play this out, first Lane Johnson makes
24:47
Speaker 2: the decision because of mental health reasons, you know, thought
24:50
Speaker 2: he had it in the tank to go battle another year,
24:53
Speaker 2: does not. The Eagles were 122-63 when he played, 18-30
25:00
Speaker 2: without him. So he's been big for them. I think
25:03
Speaker 2: he was a 14-year veteran. Then right after he makes
25:06
Speaker 2: that announcement to trade your center, and already have Dickerson
25:10
Speaker 2: on the shelf, that's why I started questioning, is it
25:13
Speaker 2: a rebuild? Because you have a guy that you weren't
25:16
Speaker 2: planning on retiring. You had a starter that's out, and
25:20
Speaker 2: then you trade your center away. It feels like if
25:23
Speaker 2: you're not happy with your quarterback, you're not happy with
25:25
Speaker 2: your coach, this is the way you sort of play
25:27
Speaker 2: your way into a better draft.
25:29
Speaker 4: It seems really, really early if I'm an Eagles fan,
25:31
Speaker 4: and I've been listening to them coming off that Rams loss.
25:35
Speaker 1: I mean, you've still got.
25:37
Speaker 4: The Commanders, you've got the Giants twice with backup quarterbacks.
25:40
Speaker 4: You've got the Texans that are winless. You've got the
25:43
Speaker 4: Cardinals on this schedule. You've got the Steelers at home.
25:46
Speaker 4: I mean, you've just got a lot of winnable games
25:48
Speaker 4: as bad as Philadelphia is right now compared to what
25:51
Speaker 4: they've been the last couple of years.
25:53
Speaker 2: Roseman says they're still trying to win, but his actions
25:56
Speaker 2: may be saying something different. Before we show our power
26:00
Speaker 2: rating this week in the NFL... Lance won our first go-around.
26:03
Speaker 2: Are you guys interested real quickly in throwing out a
26:06
Speaker 2: survivor pool winner this weekend?
26:07
Speaker 1: I am all in. All in. Let's go part two.
26:09
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter to me.
26:09
Speaker 1: Lance is up 1-0. Okay. Do you have one already? No. Okay.
26:13
Speaker 1: Let me look. I did not know we were doing
26:15
Speaker 1: this today.
26:16
Speaker 2: The Texans are 0-4. I don't even know who they're playing.
26:19
Speaker 2: So you're going against the Texans. I will take the Texans.
26:22
Speaker 4: Oh, you're the best at this.
26:24
Speaker 1: I mean, Jim goes with the most absurd choices. There's
26:28
Speaker 1: no way the Texans are going to be playing.
26:30
Speaker 4: I mean, the good news is they are at Tennessee.
26:32
Speaker 1: Okay.
26:33
Speaker 2: There's no way the Texans are 0-5, and they're playing Tennessee,
26:37
Speaker 2: so I'll take the Texans. Anybody in with me on
26:39
Speaker 2: the Texans?
26:42
Speaker 4: No, but I will fade.
26:44
Speaker 1: Don't fade the Dolphins every week. It's going to burn you.
26:47
Speaker 4: I will fade the Bucs tonight. Again, I will just
26:50
Speaker 4: play a team that hasn't covered in 14, 13 consecutive games,
26:54
Speaker 4: and they're catching eight and a half. This will be
26:55
Speaker 4: a terrible loss for the Dallas Cowboys.
26:58
Speaker 1: So I will take Dallas.
26:59
Speaker 4: What an idiot.
27:00
Speaker 2: I really told myself in the break when I was
27:02
Speaker 2: going to bring this up to take the Cowboys, and
27:04
Speaker 2: I forgot it in a matter of six minutes.
27:06
Speaker 1: Yeah. I will take the Jaguar.
27:10
Speaker 4: Against Philadelphia in London.
27:11
Speaker 1: Playing host to the Eagles.
27:12
Speaker 3: Yep.
27:12
Speaker 4: Now, the only thing I would say about this, I
27:14
Speaker 4: think the Jags are one of the best teams in
27:16
Speaker 4: the NFL, and you'll see it with the power rankings
27:18
Speaker 4: here coming up. The last time they played in London,
27:21
Speaker 4: they got decapitated.
27:22
Speaker 1: They did, but it feels like the Eagles are deflated.
27:25
Speaker 1: I mean, with everything we just talked about, I am
27:29
Speaker 1: going to take the Jags.
27:30
Speaker 2: I think there is a chance that you're listening to
27:32
Speaker 2: too much Philadelphia talk radio. Tyler, do you have your
27:37
Speaker 2: team picked yet?
27:38
Speaker 1: I do.
27:39
Speaker 3: So earlier this week, I saw my Saints get absolutely
27:43
Speaker 3: brutalized by Scott's Falcons.
27:45
Speaker 1: You did.
27:46
Speaker 3: So I'm taking the Vikings because I see that they're
27:49
Speaker 3: 4-0 and the Saints are not.
27:51
Speaker 1: Skinny favorite in New Orleans, the Vikings.
27:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, minus two and a half.
27:54
Speaker 1: Dicey, dicey choice. Oh, well, shoot.
27:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I like the Saints here. But, hey,
27:58
Speaker 4: you go with your pick.
27:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know. You never know. Brooks, who are
28:03
Speaker 1: you surviving with?
28:04
Speaker 5: I'm going to take the Steelers at home on 10
28:07
Speaker 5: days rest. The Colts are traveling back on a short
28:10
Speaker 5: week from London, playing at Pittsburgh on 10 days rest.
28:13
Speaker 1: Another skinny favorite. Yeah, you guys are daredevils when it
28:15
Speaker 1: comes to the old suicide pool.
28:17
Speaker 4: I sucked at this.
28:18
Speaker 2: Body clock game for Brooks. And finally, Forrester, who's more
28:22
Speaker 2: worried about his jovial Southsiders than he is football.
28:25
Speaker 1: What do you got? Far more concerned. Yeah, Browns Dolphins suck.
28:30
Speaker 4: Give me the Bengals.
28:32
Speaker 1: Y'all are going to get burned in this. The Dolphins
28:33
Speaker 1: are getting better every week. I do think this is
28:35
Speaker 1: the Dolphins' win. That's why I stayed away from it.
28:37
Speaker 1: I faded them every week. They are getting better every week.
28:40
Speaker 1: Y'all are playing the Bengals? They are playing the Bengals
28:41
Speaker 1: in Miami, yes. Wow, all right. The Bengals are going
28:43
Speaker 1: to get hard rocked, and they're going to stand over
28:45
Speaker 1: there in that sun.
28:46
Speaker 4: I mean, since you've been meteorologist all week, how hot
28:48
Speaker 4: is it going to be in Miami?
28:49
Speaker 1: Plenty hot.
28:50
Speaker 4: Because Florida's wearing the white jerseys, which obviously is not
28:53
Speaker 4: in South Florida, but it gets down there.
28:55
Speaker 1: 91 is your projected.
28:56
Speaker 4: High on that.
28:57
Speaker 1: They're going to stand over there in that sun. And
29:00
Speaker 1: Chase and Higgins banged up. That's right.
29:02
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
29:03
Speaker 1: It's a banged up team.
29:04
Speaker 2: Y'all are going to get burned going against the Dolphins.
29:06
Speaker 2: Let's see our power ratings this week.
29:08
Speaker 1: We give you the.
29:10
Speaker 2: top five and the bottom five for me, it's a
29:13
Speaker 2: 49 over 49ers across the board.
29:15
Speaker 4: Guys have finally come around.
29:16
Speaker 1: I haven't come around.
29:17
Speaker 2: Nobody saved the graphic this week. Uh, 49ers bills, chiefs,
29:22
Speaker 2: Seahawks Rams for me. Uh, and at the bottom, I
29:26
Speaker 2: go chargers, Cardinals, Buccaneers, dolphins.
29:31
Speaker 1: There you go. Titans. The dolphins are better than the Titans.
29:34
Speaker 1: I can't believe Lance hasn't noticed this yet. A lot
29:37
Speaker 1: of similarities here. Lance, what do you have?
29:40
Speaker 4: I've got the 49ers, Seahawks, Jags move up a spot,
29:43
Speaker 4: Bills drop a spot. I've got the Chiefs in there,
29:46
Speaker 4: undefeated still. And then the bottom, much like you guys.
29:50
Speaker 4: I'm just going with the Dolphins until they win a game.
29:52
Speaker 4: I do think that might be this week. I mean,
29:55
Speaker 4: them and the Titans are interchangeable. Then your Bucs, they
29:59
Speaker 4: are really, really bad. Jets and Chargers until they.
30:02
Speaker 1: Win a game.
30:03
Speaker 4: But I think this might be the week the Chargers
30:05
Speaker 4: get to Bo Nix.
30:07
Speaker 1: Oh, interesting. That'd be big in the AFC West there.
30:09
Speaker 4: Brownie?
30:10
Speaker 1: 49ers, Chiefs, Seahawks, Rams, Jaguar up top for me. I
30:14
Speaker 1: am the, I guess I'm the... You're no Bills? I
30:19
Speaker 1: am no Bills. I lost last week, Jim. It's tough
30:21
Speaker 1: in my power rink because you lose a game. Of course,
30:23
Speaker 1: now I've had to look past some Rams.
30:24
Speaker 4: I can't believe you guys have the Rams in your
30:26
Speaker 4: top five.
30:27
Speaker 1: Oh, God, don't play this game.
30:28
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to play the game. I mean, they're not.
30:31
Speaker 4: They're the best team in the NFL. They're not whole. Now,
30:33
Speaker 4: they could be by November, but right now.
30:35
Speaker 1: I can't believe you really have the Texans in the
30:37
Speaker 1: bottom five. Jim, they're winless. Chargers, Texans, Bucs, Dolphins, Titans,
30:42
Speaker 1: my bottom five.
30:43
Speaker 4: The Texans so close.
30:45
Speaker 1: I know. So close to being three and one.
30:47
Speaker 4: They are winless, but that's a good Texas team.
30:49
Speaker 2: I think what we're seeing here, Lance, that you and
30:51
Speaker 2: I are doing power ratings and Brown is just showing
30:53
Speaker 2: us the standings.
30:55
Speaker 1: Maybe. I got the Rams in there.
30:57
Speaker 4: They're 2-2. We'll give him credit. He does have the
31:00
Speaker 4: Jags in his top five.
31:02
Speaker 2: Well, the Jags actually were my– I had Jags written down,
31:05
Speaker 2: and I was like, I cannot have the Jags over
31:07
Speaker 2: the Rams.
31:07
Speaker 1: Listen, you say this about the Rams, Lance. They're about
31:09
Speaker 1: to play the Bills, who you've got fourth. I've got
31:11
Speaker 1: Rams fourth. You've got Bills fourth. The Rams are going
31:13
Speaker 1: to win that game. I mean, the Rams are the
31:14
Speaker 1: better team than the Bills.
31:16
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to win that game.
31:17
Speaker 1: They are.
31:19
Speaker 4: Josh Allen's tough out. Back-to-back games.
31:22
Speaker 3: Yep.
31:22
Speaker 4: I don't know.
31:23
Speaker 5: By the way, did you see where your guy, D'Amico Ryans,
31:26
Speaker 5: is taking back over defensive play calling for the Texans?
31:28
Speaker 4: Somebody needs to.
31:29
Speaker 1: Why did he give it up?
31:30
Speaker 5: I know.
31:30
Speaker 1: That's why we have you as our head coach. When
31:32
Speaker 1: did he give it up? Just in the offseason? I'm
31:34
Speaker 1: not exactly sure, but I saw where.
31:37
Speaker 5: He made the announcement this week. He's taking back over
31:39
Speaker 5: defensive play calling.
31:40
Speaker 4: Makes it a little easier when CD goes 17 grabs.
31:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably a good time to do it.
31:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably.
31:45
Speaker 2: Odell Beckham, by the way, signs with the Vikings. See
31:48
Speaker 2: what he's able to do. And a new study out,
31:51
Speaker 2: watching all the game tapes from the first four weeks
31:54
Speaker 2: of the season, quarterbacks under center numbers way up. The
31:59
Speaker 2: scheming and the way we're running offensive plays now, under
32:02
Speaker 2: center more now than ever before in this era.
32:06
Speaker 1: Brooks Alston brought this up on the show yesterday. If
32:09
Speaker 1: you caught the second half of the next round yesterday,
32:11
Speaker 1: if not, go back and watch the film guy on demand.
32:14
Speaker 1: Very good. When Alabama lined up in the I formation
32:19
Speaker 1: with Keelan Russell under center, I'm like, is this an
32:22
Speaker 1: exotic formation now? You almost never see it. When they
32:26
Speaker 1: lined up, I was like, wow. Yeah, you see it
32:28
Speaker 1: all the time in the NFL. Oh, you do all
32:29
Speaker 1: the time in the NFL. And that's something Klatt talked
32:32
Speaker 1: about with us about what, it was either Klatt or
32:35
Speaker 1: Brock Huard or maybe both about what Keelan Russell is
32:37
Speaker 1: doing at Alabama, that he's running way more pro style
32:39
Speaker 1: than you would imagine. Buddy, when they lined up at
32:42
Speaker 1: I formation under center, I'm like, you almost never see
32:44
Speaker 1: this in college anymore. It looks so strange. When we
32:47
Speaker 1: come back, one coach in the SEC putting fake quotes
32:55
Speaker 1: from this week's opponent up in his locker room. Who
32:59
Speaker 1: do you think it is? See if you can guess
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Speaker 2: has an amazing story up, picture included. Several Alabama scout
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Speaker 2: teamers traveled to Starkville on their own this past weekend
33:27
Speaker 2: to cheer from the stands. When Kalen DeBoer found out,
33:30
Speaker 2: he made sure they were in the visiting locker room
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Speaker 2: to celebrate with the team after the game.
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Speaker 1: That's cool.
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Speaker 2: Just the appreciation we had for those guys finding a
33:38
Speaker 2: way to get there and doing their part, cheering in
33:40
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Speaker 1: Photos included. Good story.
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Speaker 1: Okay, who do you think had fake quotes? In their
34:48
Speaker 1: locker room this week.
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Speaker 4: I mean, look, Lane Hokie is one of the Hokiest
34:52
Speaker 4: guys out there. So I'm going to go Lane Kiffin.
34:55
Speaker 1: You call him Lane Hokie? Lane Hokie.
34:58
Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin.
34:58
Speaker 1: It's got to be Lane Kiffin.
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Speaker 4: But, I mean, Kentucky, you have to do a lot
35:02
Speaker 4: to get up for Kentucky.
35:03
Speaker 1: Yeah. We are on a day where we have praised
35:07
Speaker 1: Eli Drinkwitz. It does feel a little Drinkwitz, too. Yeah,
35:10
Speaker 1: but I don't think we're going to do a story
35:13
Speaker 1: about A player getting a heart transplant and.
35:16
Speaker 4: Follow-up with his story.
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Speaker 1: I don't think Sark or Venables is going to do this.
35:20
Speaker 4: I mean, there's nothing.
35:21
Speaker 1: I mean, Kirby's got a little of this in him.
35:24
Speaker 1: Kirby has done the old, they picked us to go
35:26
Speaker 1: 7-5 before when nobody in the world ever.
35:28
Speaker 4: Picks Georgia to go 7-5.
35:29
Speaker 1: I think for sure this is Lane Kiffin or this
35:32
Speaker 1: is Eli Drinkwitz.
35:33
Speaker 2: It's 100% Lane Kiffin, Lance. Lane Kiffin for 500. Fake
35:38
Speaker 2: quotes on the message boards in the locker room. It
35:43
Speaker 2: has a picture of Kenny Menchie pointing like this and
35:48
Speaker 2: saying LSU's defense hasn't seen anyone in blue like us
35:54
Speaker 2: and our offensive line yet. So that is the quote
35:58
Speaker 2: he has up in the locker room. Turns out Kenny
36:01
Speaker 2: Menchie did not say this quote. Kentucky Sports Radio confirmed
36:04
Speaker 2: it is a fabricated bulletin board material by Lane Kiffin.
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Speaker 2: There's the way it looks right there.
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Speaker 4: He's such a weird guy. I mean, you're the number
36:13
Speaker 4: one total defense in the SEC right now. That's what
36:15
Speaker 4: LSU's got coming into this game. They're a pretty massive
36:19
Speaker 4: road favorite against a top 25 team. They're laying eight
36:22
Speaker 4: and a half right here. If you've got to motivate
36:24
Speaker 4: your guys to go into Kentucky after you've already got
36:27
Speaker 4: a loss, what's going on here?
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Speaker 2: On his radio show last night, Will Stein was asked
36:32
Speaker 2: about this. Will Stein of Kentucky. Coaches have been doing
36:36
Speaker 2: crazy stuff for a long time in terms of getting
36:38
Speaker 2: their team.
36:39
Speaker 4: Ready to roll.
36:40
Speaker 2: My guys are ready to roll because of the brotherhood
36:43
Speaker 2: they have and the opportunity to play in front of
36:46
Speaker 2: our fans, says Will Stein there.
36:50
Speaker 1: So the quote, the made up quote is they haven't
36:53
Speaker 1: seen an offense like ours yet. That's right. How far
36:56
Speaker 1: off is the Kentucky offense from Ole Miss? Because Ole Miss,
36:58
Speaker 1: that's the best offense LSU's seen, right?
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Speaker 4: Oh, far off.
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Speaker 1: You think it's that far off? I think so.
37:03
Speaker 4: Look, Will Stein's done an incredible job. Minchie is playing
37:05
Speaker 4: at a high level. You've got multiple backs that are
37:09
Speaker 4: playing really well for Kentucky right now, but it's not
37:12
Speaker 4: Ole Miss.
37:13
Speaker 2: The official fake quote is, LSU's defense hasn't seen anyone
37:17
Speaker 2: like us and our offensive line yet.
37:21
Speaker 1: And it's a fake quote. So... On the heels of
37:24
Speaker 1: the unfortunate passing of Dennis Franchoni, this goes back to
37:29
Speaker 1: that fake locker room speech that Nick Saban made. You
37:33
Speaker 1: remember this? Well, it wasn't fake. Nick Saban really said it.
37:36
Speaker 1: He said some fabricated things. That's what everybody says. How
37:39
Speaker 1: do you know Nick Saban really said it? I thought
37:41
Speaker 1: there was video of him saying it. No, no, no, no.
37:43
Speaker 1: This was all message board. This was all printed. See,
37:46
Speaker 1: that's how these stories go. Then you believe it. Years later,
37:50
Speaker 1: you're like, no, there was video of it, Brown. Keep
37:52
Speaker 1: in mind, this is only... There was a video after the... Which,
37:55
Speaker 1: by the way, I think was however many years... It
37:57
Speaker 1: was the Hills of the Bluegrass Miracle. Bluegrass Miracle. And....
38:02
Speaker 2: And he wasn't in the locker room at Kentucky now saying,
38:04
Speaker 2: you've got to come back down next week.
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Speaker 1: We're playing those guys. They give them Corvettes and whatever
38:08
Speaker 1: it was. I don't think there was a video of it.
38:10
Speaker 1: I'm going to say there was no video of it.
38:12
Speaker 1: I think it got shared on message boards, and it
38:14
Speaker 1: became the gospel after that. Yeah, back to your question
38:16
Speaker 1: of Ole Miss, Kentucky. I've just got to throw this
38:18
Speaker 1: out real quick. They're close total yards.
38:21
Speaker 4: Ole Miss has got a little bit more, and Ole
38:23
Speaker 4: Miss has got about a point more per game in scoring.
38:26
Speaker 4: But Ole Miss hasn't been whole. They haven't had Kiwan Lacy.
38:30
Speaker 4: And Trinidad Chambliss is as good as Mitchie's been.
38:34
Speaker 2: Speaking of Kiwan Lacy, he's back this week. Some other
38:37
Speaker 2: injury news around college football. Tell me if it's important
38:41
Speaker 2: or not. South Carolina does not have Dylan Stewart listed
38:45
Speaker 2: on their availability report, which means he's not out. That
38:48
Speaker 2: means he's ready to go and ready to play. Dylan
38:51
Speaker 2: Stewart's return for South Carolina this week against Florida does what?
38:55
Speaker 1: Well, if Jaden Ball can't run the football, he couldn't
38:57
Speaker 1: run it last week. I mean, what, Ball had 12 carries,
39:01
Speaker 1: 13 yards? And then you get Philo back there. Dylan
39:04
Speaker 1: Stewart is a disruptor.
39:05
Speaker 4: So, you know, if Florida struggles running the football, he
39:08
Speaker 4: could be a major factor in this game.
39:10
Speaker 1: I mean, don't you think? Well, hang on, let me
39:13
Speaker 1: back up. Wouldn't you hope he comes back a different player? Like,
39:18
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't just the punch he threw in
39:21
Speaker 1: the Alabama game. It was the fact that he wasn't
39:24
Speaker 1: really playing a great game. Alabama minimized him in that game.
39:28
Speaker 4: The entire look on the field, off the field. He
39:32
Speaker 4: has had a couple of weeks now to hear. A
39:34
Speaker 4: million analysts say you lost millions of dollars by your behavior.
39:38
Speaker 4: So now what do you.
39:39
Speaker 1: Got to do?
39:39
Speaker 4: You got to go out and you got to rehab
39:41
Speaker 4: the image.
39:42
Speaker 1: Get those millions back. You got to find a way
39:44
Speaker 1: to do it.
39:44
Speaker 4: Do it with your own field play. Say the right things.
39:47
Speaker 4: Do the right things.
39:48
Speaker 1: I would say if I'm an NFL scout and I'm
39:50
Speaker 1: interested in Dylan Stewart, there is so much negative right
39:53
Speaker 1: now about him. I watch this game, and this is
39:55
Speaker 1: not his best effort game. I'm not saying he's got
39:57
Speaker 1: to have the most sacks he ever had. But his
39:59
Speaker 1: motor better be running. His motor better be full speed
40:02
Speaker 1: the whole time. If I watch that tape and I
40:04
Speaker 1: don't see the best effort game Dylan Stewart has ever played,
40:07
Speaker 1: I take him off my draft boards, don't even consider it.
40:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm really fascinated to see how South Carolina plays.
40:12
Speaker 4: I mean, Florida too. I mean, Florida coming up, I mean,
40:14
Speaker 4: they got dick whipped. I mean, they got destroyed in Columbia,
40:18
Speaker 4: and now you've got a team that you're a double-digit favorite.
40:21
Speaker 4: This thing dropped from 13.5 to 10.5. But how do
40:24
Speaker 4: they come out and respond? And on the other side,
40:26
Speaker 4: South Carolina got their hearts ripped out again.
40:28
Speaker 2: So tell me what you just said that 13 and
40:30
Speaker 2: a half to 10 and a half. Because I was
40:32
Speaker 2: doing a podcast last night with some guys from Georgia.
40:37
Speaker 2: And they have you make picks at the end. They
40:39
Speaker 2: say just straight up picks, but I'll give you the spread.
40:42
Speaker 2: And they were like 11 and a half. And I
40:44
Speaker 2: was like, I think it's 13 and a half. They're like, no,
40:46
Speaker 2: it's dropped. Dude, now it's dropped another point.
40:48
Speaker 4: It's 10.5?
40:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. What does that tell you?
40:51
Speaker 4: I think South Carolina's a pretty good play. I would
40:53
Speaker 4: stay away from it because I don't know how they respond. Again,
40:56
Speaker 4: does South Carolina finally tap out? You know, we don't
41:00
Speaker 4: win these games. We've lost eight straight in the SEC.
41:02
Speaker 4: We've lost 10 of our last 11 in the SEC.
41:04
Speaker 4: Even if we get out to a big lead, we're
41:06
Speaker 4: probably going to find a way to lose this game.
41:08
Speaker 4: I don't know where they are mentally. I probably would
41:10
Speaker 4: stay away from this game altogether. But I do think
41:12
Speaker 4: there's some sharp money backing the Gamecocks right now.
41:15
Speaker 1: And some question about Vernell Brown, the receiver.
41:17
Speaker 4: He's supposed to be back, though.
41:18
Speaker 2: He's supposed to play coming up this weekend. With Kiwan
41:21
Speaker 2: Lacy back for Ole Miss. at Vandy, but obviously that's
41:25
Speaker 2: important for their offense.
41:27
Speaker 4: Very important for the offense. I mean, that is, I
41:31
Speaker 4: don't want to say it's the most important one-two punch
41:33
Speaker 4: in college football, but boy, without Lacey, the offense looks
41:37
Speaker 4: so different.
41:38
Speaker 1: A lot of pressure on Trinidad at that point. There is,
41:40
Speaker 1: but I mean, it was, I think it was Brooks
41:43
Speaker 1: Hulst to the film guy again yesterday that was like,
41:45
Speaker 1: that offense is just so different without Keewan Lacey. I mean,
41:48
Speaker 1: it is just not the same offense that you see.
41:50
Speaker 2: Forrest, how quickly can you give me an Ole Miss,
41:52
Speaker 2: I know very quickly is the answer, an Ole Miss
41:55
Speaker 2: schedule here? Because they've been out of sight, out of mind.
41:58
Speaker 1: They have. Because they lost, and then they were bye week.
42:02
Speaker 4: Boy, they've got a tough schedule coming up.
42:04
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt, and then it's Missouri, Texas, Auburn, Georgia, Oklahoma, Wofford,
42:09
Speaker 2: and Mississippi State. Now Mississippi State ending looks different now.
42:13
Speaker 1: If you look at that through a lens of you've
42:15
Speaker 1: got to beat 10-2 to be in the playoffs, that
42:17
Speaker 1: is extremely difficult.
42:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're going to be underdogs in only two
42:20
Speaker 4: of those games.
42:21
Speaker 1: But to make the playoffs, they've either got to beat
42:23
Speaker 1: Texas or Georgia.
42:25
Speaker 4: But I will include this weekend. I think this weekend
42:28
Speaker 4: is losable.
42:29
Speaker 1: Wow.
42:29
Speaker 4: I really do.
42:31
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll lose it. But I think it's losable.
42:34
Speaker 4: Missouri's definitely losable at Texas, Georgia, at Oklahoma, Mississippi State.
42:38
Speaker 4: I'm going to skip over Auburn.
42:39
Speaker 1: I mean, to make the playoff, I mean, what do
42:41
Speaker 1: you guys think they've got to be tending to to
42:43
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs, bare minimums? To make the playoffs now,
42:46
Speaker 1: you've got to win at Texas or Oklahoma or beat
42:49
Speaker 1: Georgia at home. You've got to do two of those three.
42:52
Speaker 1: Not just one of them. You've got to do two
42:53
Speaker 1: of those three. You've got to beat Georgia at home.
42:56
Speaker 1: Win at Texas, win at Oklahoma, two of those three.
42:58
Speaker 1: I mean, that is really, really difficult.
43:00
Speaker 2: And I thought, do you save Kiwan this weekend to
43:05
Speaker 2: have him healthier when you start to stretch with Missouri-Texas?
43:08
Speaker 1: But you're telling me it's a.
43:10
Speaker 2: It's a losable game in Nashville, so you can't if
43:12
Speaker 2: you're Pete Golding.
43:13
Speaker 4: This is where it's difficult because Vanderbilt's coming off 24-point loss,
43:17
Speaker 4: and that's like their biggest loss in forever. Vanderbilt's been
43:20
Speaker 4: so good over the last couple of years. I don't
43:21
Speaker 4: think this Vanderbilt addition is what we saw in 24
43:24
Speaker 4: and 25. I still think they're really, really competitive. This
43:28
Speaker 4: is almost double digits here. I think they're going to survive.
43:32
Speaker 4: They probably would survive without Kiwan, but it still is
43:35
Speaker 4: a losable game.
43:36
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. I guarantee you any Ole
43:39
Speaker 1: Miss fan would tell you this. The very last thing
43:41
Speaker 1: I would want to do as an Ole Miss fan
43:43
Speaker 1: is be a two-loss team hosting state and having to
43:46
Speaker 1: win that game to make it to the college football playoffs.
43:49
Speaker 4: It almost reminds me of first-year Elko in Texas. Now,
43:52
Speaker 4: Texas survived that game.
43:53
Speaker 1: They did.
43:54
Speaker 4: But that was set up perfectly for Elko and A &
43:57
Speaker 4: M to completely ruin their season. And if you get
44:00
Speaker 4: a healthy Kamario Taylor, and that's what we want to see, a.
44:03
Speaker 1: Healthy Trinidad Jamless Kamario Taylor. No doubt. Healthy Kamario Taylor, fluff.
44:06
Speaker 1: Bothwell back healthy. Keewan Lacey back healthy. How good a
44:09
Speaker 1: game would that be? But the last thing I want
44:10
Speaker 1: to do is be, even though they're hosting it, I
44:13
Speaker 1: just don't want to play my rival having to have
44:14
Speaker 1: that win and one of my better teams my rivals had.
44:17
Speaker 2: In Red River, Oklahoma's offensive tackle, Michael Fasusi, is doubtful
44:23
Speaker 2: for the game, which is a problem on their offensive
44:25
Speaker 2: line where they're struggling offensively. Around the country, you've already
44:28
Speaker 2: mentioned huge, exit from LJ Martin, who's out for BYU.
44:32
Speaker 2: That is a game changer for them.
44:34
Speaker 1: It is.
44:34
Speaker 4: I mean, Bear Bachmeier is just going to have to
44:36
Speaker 4: put a lot on his back. And that defense is
44:38
Speaker 4: going to continue to have to play at a high level.
44:41
Speaker 1: Dante Moore out officially now. They're going to give him
44:44
Speaker 1: another week. Concussion protocol. Raiola starts. Can he be as
44:48
Speaker 1: good as he was those final three quarters?
44:50
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, that was amazing. Really didn't
44:52
Speaker 4: have time to think. Went in and just played his
44:54
Speaker 4: ass off immediately. Now he's had time to absorb it
44:57
Speaker 4: and think about he's going to be the starting quarterback.
44:59
Speaker 4: But the good news is you had a full season
45:01
Speaker 4: last year in Lincoln, and this guy's got a lot
45:03
Speaker 4: of experience. And I think it's a little bit of
45:06
Speaker 4: a drop-off, but not much of a drop-off from Dante Moore.
45:09
Speaker 2: And Keane Holtz, the quarterback for Louisville, is probable now.
45:12
Speaker 2: He's come down from questionable to probable. he's likely going
45:15
Speaker 2: to play in what has become a big game in
45:17
Speaker 2: the ACC race for Florida State and Louisville.
45:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, this Louisville team, I think, is still good. They've
45:22
Speaker 4: got eight losses since the beginning of last year, seven
45:26
Speaker 4: of those losses by three or fewer. I mean, they've
45:28
Speaker 4: been on the brink of being a playoff team. They
45:31
Speaker 4: just can't win these close games, and I don't know
45:34
Speaker 4: if this game's going to be close because Florida State,
45:36
Speaker 4: they've been incredible in the red zone, 21 of 21
45:38
Speaker 4: in the red zone, but they haven't had a road
45:41
Speaker 4: win since November of 23. We talked about this yesterday,
45:44
Speaker 4: and It's a little different going from Tallahassee to where
45:48
Speaker 4: they're going to be playing Louisville, a desperate Louisville team.
45:50
Speaker 1: Florida State's still a one-loss ACC team. Their only losses
45:54
Speaker 1: are Bama and SMU, right?
45:56
Speaker 4: Right.
45:57
Speaker 1: So they are right in that ACC hunt. It's going
46:00
Speaker 1: to be a one-loss or two-loss team that plays Miami
46:02
Speaker 1: at the end of this. Now, the problem for Florida
46:04
Speaker 1: State is they've got to play Miami next week in
46:06
Speaker 1: the regular season.
46:09
Speaker 4: But look, if they go to Louisville and win this game, again,
46:12
Speaker 4: their first win on the road since 2023... With the
46:15
Speaker 4: one loss in the ACC, at least Norville can have
46:17
Speaker 4: his guys believing.
46:19
Speaker 2: Story time to end in the final two minutes of
46:21
Speaker 2: the show here. Yesterday was the story from Yahoo Sports.
46:26
Speaker 2: Yesterday was 110 years since Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 220
46:32
Speaker 2: to nothing. That's 32 touchdowns they scored in 55 minutes
46:38
Speaker 2: of play. John Heisman was the coach. The part of
46:42
Speaker 2: the story I didn't know. Maybe you guys knew this already.
46:45
Speaker 2: that John Heisman was also Georgia Tech's baseball coach then.
46:50
Speaker 4: I did know that he was a baseball coach. I
46:52
Speaker 4: didn't know it was at the same time.
46:53
Speaker 2: And the reason he ran up the score on Cumberland
46:57
Speaker 2: 222-0 was because in the baseball season, Cumberland's baseball team
47:04
Speaker 2: used minor league professional baseball players dressed in Cumberland jerseys
47:10
Speaker 2: and beat Heisman's Georgia Tech team, wait for it, 22-0.
47:14
Speaker 1: To nothing.
47:15
Speaker 2: Oh, so he made a definite message. And he swore
47:16
Speaker 2: that he'd make them pay. And when he had a
47:18
Speaker 2: chance to make it 222 to nothing.
47:21
Speaker 1: That's what he went out to do.
47:23
Speaker 4: Damn, not only calling your shot, but calling 222 points
47:26
Speaker 4: and cutting it off there.
47:27
Speaker 1: I hope he was at 220 late in the game
47:29
Speaker 1: and had to go for two to get into 222.
47:30
Speaker 1: I hope he did victory formation his final three possessions.
47:35
Speaker 2: Well, he did say 32 touchdowns in 55 minutes, so
47:39
Speaker 2: they played another five minutes without them not scoring.
47:41
Speaker 1: Without scoring. So I think there was significance in that
47:44
Speaker 1: 220 to nothing. 22 to nothing with minor league players.
47:49
Speaker 1: playing against his Georgia Tech baseball team and it pissed
47:51
Speaker 1: him off so much that he went out 110 years ago.
47:54
Speaker 1: I've never heard that part. I've always wondered how I
47:56
Speaker 1: got there. Me either. That from Yahoo Sports yesterday.
47:59
Speaker 4: All right.
48:00
Speaker 2: That's it for the first half of the next round
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48:06
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48:09
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