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FSU ROBBED?! 2 AWFUL Calls Decide DOUBLE-OT Heartbreaker vs Miami | What Happens to Norvell? · FSU Football: Doak Talk

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  Speaker 1: Hey, it's CJ Wilson here with Dope Talk. FSU lose
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  Speaker 1: in a double overtime thriller to the Miami Hurricanes, 43-35.
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  Speaker 1: I know you guys probably just watched the game. Wanted
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  Speaker 1: to kind of do a little quick recap and discuss it.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy game, especially how it ended. FSU actually scored a
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  Speaker 1: touchdown on the fourth and 20 heave to the end zone.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing play by Makai Dansley to go over the defender
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  Speaker 1: and make a catch and a big-time play on the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Head top, as the kids called it. But the refs
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  Speaker 1: called it back on the Phantom Hole call. It was
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  Speaker 1: clear that the ACC made that call down to the
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  Speaker 1: officials to protect the brand, the biggest playoff brand in
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  Speaker 1: the Miami Hurricanes, because ain't no way in hell.
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  Speaker 2: No way in hell.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys saw that play, everyone is pretty much
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  Speaker 1: talking about it right now as far as the Phantom
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  Speaker 1: Hole and call.
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  Speaker 2: It was BS.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if FSU gets the two-point conversion or not.
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  Speaker 1: But we definitely deserve to see them go forward, especially
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  Speaker 1: how that play played out. The kid wasn't even rushing.
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  Speaker 1: The quarterback was not a factor in the play, wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a hole at all. So, unfortunately, the refs did take
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  Speaker 1: that away from FSU. Can't blame the game on that,
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  Speaker 1: but that was just a terrible call within that situation.
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  Speaker 1: And also on the following play, it looks like Deuce
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  Speaker 1: caught the damn touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: On the last play after the penalty, too.
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  Speaker 1: So, again, right after the next play, pretty– Usually when
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  Speaker 1: you have those 50-50 balls, when both the offense and
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  Speaker 1: the defender have their hands on the ball, it usually
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  Speaker 1: goes in the offense's favor. But nonetheless, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: the ACC definitely had to protect their biggest playoff brand
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  Speaker 1: and made that call. That was ridiculous, especially the holding call. Man,
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  Speaker 1: that was ridiculous. Really hate for those guys. Want to
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  Speaker 1: give a real quick shout-out to Ustman Cromer. Really hate
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  Speaker 1: to see how that play went down, especially to a
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  Speaker 1: kid like him.
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  Speaker 2: Real big fan of his.
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  Speaker 1: Went on the first half with what looks like a
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  Speaker 1: pretty bad ankle injury after steamrolling the Miami defender. Ran
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  Speaker 1: over a Miami defender on his way to the end zone,
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  Speaker 1: and the guy kind of got behind him in one
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  Speaker 1: of those flute kind of plays a little bit as
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  Speaker 1: far as the contact situation, how you land. He ended
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  Speaker 1: up getting rolled up on, you know, body weight on
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  Speaker 1: top of his ankle and, you know, the rest is history.
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  Speaker 1: Looks like it was a paring ankle injury, was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: carted off the field and that type of deal.
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  Speaker 2: So prayers out to Oos. Really hate to see a
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  Speaker 2: man big time playmaker.
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  Speaker 1: But in my opinion, this ball game really shouldn't even
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  Speaker 1: came down to an overtime situation for Florida State to
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  Speaker 1: get to that point where the ref can take the
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  Speaker 1: game away from you. I think the ball game truly
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  Speaker 1: came down to FSU having two drives within the five-yard
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  Speaker 1: line and coming away with zero points within those two drives.
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  Speaker 1: Just lack of awareness by Mike Norvell as far as
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  Speaker 1: the type of roster he has.
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  Speaker 2: In my opinion. It's truly crazy. Don't have Jurgen Notts
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  Speaker 2: up front. like you don't.
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  Speaker 1: He calls plays in certain situations, especially in those fourth
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  Speaker 1: and short goal line situations like you just have Bulldogs
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  Speaker 1: up front. You're recruiting amazingly from a Trent standpoint, just
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  Speaker 1: nasty guys that can move the offensive line in the
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  Speaker 1: physical situation, the one-on-one situation up front, and it just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work.
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  Speaker 2: We don't recruit those type of guys.
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  Speaker 1: That fourth and three play call, like I said, both
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  Speaker 1: of those drives, the first one I kind of understand
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  Speaker 1: as far as going forward, it's just you've got to
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  Speaker 1: take points in certain situations, right? You've got to take
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  Speaker 1: points in certain situations. I think in this game, at
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  Speaker 1: that point in time, the defense was playing well enough,
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  Speaker 1: and you knew just knowing your defense and how Tony
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  Speaker 1: White's defense had played since he's been hired, at some
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  Speaker 1: point in time, they're going to give us something big,
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  Speaker 1: and the opposing offense is going to get going.
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  Speaker 2: So you do want to take advantage of the points.
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  Speaker 1: But again, that fourth and three, I have no clue
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  Speaker 1: why you run the football on that second fourth down playoff.
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  Speaker 1: conversion attempt in fourth and three situation you run the football.
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  Speaker 1: If you're going to go for it, you have to
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  Speaker 1: pass in that situation. In my opinion, you should have
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  Speaker 1: kicked the field goal. And I knew Norvell was going
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  Speaker 1: for it because you could see he was setting up
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  Speaker 1: his third down play. It was a set up for
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  Speaker 1: fourth down. It was a conservative third down play just
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  Speaker 1: to see how many yards you would get. I think
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  Speaker 1: he only gained one yard on that third down attempt.
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  Speaker 1: At that point in time, you would think, okay, it's
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  Speaker 1: fourth and three. Let's take these points. But no, we
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  Speaker 1: end up going for it again and running the football.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the last week against Louisville when you went
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  Speaker 1: for it in the fourth down, you should have ran
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  Speaker 1: it then because you were very successful against Louisville as
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  Speaker 1: far as moving their front.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to read the room a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of running a play action, receiver screen out to
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  Speaker 1: the side, there's a defense time to react.
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  Speaker 2: You should have ran the ball in that situation.
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  Speaker 1: Fast forward here, this is a situation where if you're
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  Speaker 1: going to go for it, we should have took the
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  Speaker 1: points rather for sure this time. But if you are
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  Speaker 1: going to go for it, you will want to get
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  Speaker 1: rid of the football or throw the football to not
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  Speaker 1: be in a running situation because you weren't really able
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  Speaker 1: to move Miami's front all game. The plays of the
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  Speaker 1: running backs in the run game that we did, it
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  Speaker 1: was more so the running backs making the play. And
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  Speaker 1: especially at that point in time, those guys had their
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  Speaker 1: ears pinned for the situation. We just don't recruit to
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  Speaker 1: that level. They do a good job in the trenches
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  Speaker 1: of recruiting for Miami, and we just don't match up
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  Speaker 1: within that situation. So you got to get creative in
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  Speaker 1: your play call. We weren't in a situation to play
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  Speaker 1: bully ball with them, so I really think those two
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  Speaker 1: possessions within the five-yard line come away with zero points.
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  Speaker 2: It hurt us in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 1: Again, you've got to get points in those situations, especially.
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  Speaker 2: The last one.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand going forward on the fourth and three,
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  Speaker 1: especially running the football. If you're going to go forward,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to throw it in that situation.
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  Speaker 2: The talk of the game is going to.
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  Speaker 1: Be on the ACC rest on that family holding call,
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  Speaker 1: and rightfully so because it was a bad call that
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  Speaker 1: took away an opportunity from Florida State. amazing play from
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  Speaker 1: makai danzy but i think norvell should get questioned with
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  Speaker 1: this decision making within those situations because he coaches like
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  Speaker 1: he has all americans up front neck and his move
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  Speaker 1: guys just at third but again we don't recruit to
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  Speaker 1: that level we don't have that type of talent on
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  Speaker 1: the roster to put ourselves in that situation you got
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  Speaker 1: to take points especially against a team like miami on
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  Speaker 1: the road you got to take points for presenting himself
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  Speaker 1: to go Two drives within the five-yard line and to
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  Speaker 1: come away with zero, that's tough. I think Ashley Daniels
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  Speaker 1: had a pretty nice game. Had over 300 yards passing,
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  Speaker 1: even though I still felt he left a lot of
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  Speaker 1: plays on the field. Deuce, this is what we've been
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  Speaker 1: asking for. This is what we've been asking for. We
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  Speaker 1: said a big-time show of passion. This is what we've
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  Speaker 1: been asking for.
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  Speaker 2: We saw it. Good job, Deuce, man.
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  Speaker 1: Defense, still too much, man. Gave up 583 total yards
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  Speaker 1: with 257 yards rushing. way too much. We folded down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch of the game and just gave up some easy,
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  Speaker 1: petty touchdowns for Miami. Now granted, they did get a
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  Speaker 1: stop with like two minutes left when Miami was kind
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  Speaker 1: of driving to try to win the game for the
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  Speaker 1: game on the drive. But again, 257 rushing yards. We
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  Speaker 1: clearly are who we are defensively, and it's truly an issue.
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  Speaker 1: Truly an issue. We say we got to get better,
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  Speaker 1: but we are who we are at this point in
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  Speaker 1: the season. This Tony White's defense isn't in a certain situation.
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  Speaker 1: Those guys played good for an extended period of time,
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  Speaker 1: but it was only a matter of time. As you
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  Speaker 1: guys know before, we ended up doing what we do
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  Speaker 1: and giving up a bunch of chunk plays, especially in
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  Speaker 1: the running game.
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  Speaker 2: 257 yards is just way too much.
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  Speaker 1: I hate the way we lose, especially going to double
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  Speaker 1: overtime against Miami and then coming down to that play.
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  Speaker 1: But again, I truly believe the sequences that kind of
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  Speaker 1: cost Florida State the game. This pretty much has been
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  Speaker 1: Mike Norvell throughout his tenure at certain points in time.
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  Speaker 2: It's Mike Norvell doing Mike Norvell things.
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  Speaker 1: I told you guys before, I think this team is
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  Speaker 1: a 9-1 team from a talent standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: It's talent on his roster as you guys can see.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we've got some injuries and losing oofs definitely
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  Speaker 1: hurt things in the second half, but it's talent on
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  Speaker 1: his roster for sure. I believe it's a 9-1 roster,
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  Speaker 1: but when you factor coaching into things like that, coaching decisions,
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  Speaker 1: it takes away a couple wins. That's where you have
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  Speaker 1: a 5-7 result in that type of deal.
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  Speaker 2: So I truly believe From a talent.
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  Speaker 1: Standpoint, nine wins with, again, Mike Norvell doing Mike Norvell
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  Speaker 1: things and not being able to get out of his
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  Speaker 1: own way has caused Florida State in certain situations. Two
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  Speaker 1: drives within a five-yard line and to come away with
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  Speaker 1: zero points, there's no excuse for that at all.
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  Speaker 2: Have to be better in those situations.
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  Speaker 1: Have to gauge or roster better in those situations in
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  Speaker 1: regards to what they could do from a physical standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: You can't call plays like you have. the damn 90s
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys and that type of deal, or the 90s Seminoles
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  Speaker 1: for that matter. We don't have those type of hogs
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  Speaker 1: up front, and Miami recruits those type of hogs up front.
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  Speaker 1: It's built for that situation. To run it on fourth
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  Speaker 1: and three is just irresponsible, in my opinion. But again,
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  Speaker 1: Fennel Hall called to save the frontrunners for the ACC.
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  Speaker 1: Really hate it, man, because that was a crazy play
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  Speaker 1: by Mekhi Danz on the fourth and 20 to force, well,
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily force anything, but to kind of give those
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  Speaker 1: guys a chance to tie Miami down. With a two-point conversion.
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  Speaker 1: But again, a loss is a loss. FSU ended up
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  Speaker 1: losing 43-35. Fall to the Miami Hurricanes. Again, that road
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  Speaker 1: streak continues. Haven't won a true road game since 2023.
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  Speaker 2: The UF game. Tough. FSU falls to 3-4 in the season.
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