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- 0:05Speaker 1: From The Australian, here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:08Speaker 1: It's Thursday, August 27, 2026. The federal government is to
- 0:15Speaker 1: launch a new crackdown on international student visas, family reunion
- 0:19Speaker 1: and overstayers as part of a bid to get net
- 0:22Speaker 1: overseas migration down. A new security treaty to push China's
- 0:29Speaker 1: influence out of the Pacific Islands. That's the plan Australia's
- 0:32Speaker 1: cooking up with the Solomon Islands. Those exclusives by Geoff
- 0:37Speaker 1: Chambers and Ben Packham are live now at theaustralian.com.au. Where's
- 0:45Speaker 1: my castle? Where's my pony? Those are perfectly reasonable questions
- 0:50Speaker 1: for a young prince or princess to ask. And now
- 0:53Speaker 1: Archie and Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor are about to get the answers
- 0:57Speaker 1: as the Duke and Duchess of Sussex splash down on
- 1:00Speaker 1: a sceptical Britain. So what will the Megasants actually look like?
- 1:05Speaker 1: Jacqueline Magne is here in just a moment.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Could it herald the beginning of an end to the
- 1:22Speaker 2: royal rift between the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and
- 1:26Speaker 2: the royal family?
- 1:28Speaker 1: The kids were accepted into the school that they wanted
- 1:30Speaker 1: and the possibility that the Duchess would get back into acting. Well,
- 1:36Speaker 1: a new season of Rivals is about to start and
- 1:38Speaker 1: this time it's real life. The Sussexes versus the Wales.
- 1:41Speaker 1: At least that's how it's being portrayed by some in
- 1:44Speaker 1: Britain who don't necessarily want Harry and Meghan to come
- 1:47Speaker 1: back to the United Kingdom. Jacqueline Magne is the Australian's
- 1:51Speaker 1: Europe correspondent and she covers the Royals for us. Jack,
- 1:54Speaker 1: how would you describe the mood as Britain comes out
- 1:57Speaker 1: of a long, hot summer? They're all very sweaty and
- 2:00Speaker 1: they're a bit tired. Are they keen for the Sussexes
- 2:03Speaker 1: to come back? Oh, not at all.
- 2:05Speaker 2: It's like we don't need this drama. We've got too
- 2:08Speaker 2: much going on in the country already and I think
- 2:12Speaker 2: most people think we don't need this hassle. Please just
- 2:15Speaker 2: stay in the United States.
- 2:18Speaker 1: When the Sussexes were in Britain during the summer, they
- 2:22Speaker 1: posted some, not surprisingly, beautiful kind of golden hour videos
- 2:26Speaker 1: of themselves at Charles Spencer's estate in Northamptonshire. This is
- 2:30Speaker 1: where Princess Diana grew up and where she's buried now.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Is that a signal? Do you think that's where they're
- 2:36Speaker 1: going to live?
- 2:37Speaker 2: There was some indication that that might give them the
- 2:40Speaker 2: privacy and the security that they need if they did
- 2:44Speaker 2: go to that estate. And certainly Charles Spencer would be
- 2:47Speaker 2: welcoming for them to go there. But I think more likely,
- 2:53Speaker 2: certainly Megan would be more keen to go towards the
- 2:56Speaker 2: Cotswolds area. I mean, it's gorgeous there. It's not that
- 2:59Speaker 2: far from London. And it's also where she has established
- 3:02Speaker 2: friendship groups. And of course, Megan's best mate, Marcus Anderson,
- 3:09Speaker 2: has property interests there through Soho House. He was instrumental
- 3:14Speaker 2: in getting Harry and they go back a long way,
- 3:19Speaker 2: she would feel very comfortable there. And so my sense
- 3:23Speaker 2: is that is the area that they'll end up. But
- 3:25Speaker 2: of course, over here, there's a blackout on where they
- 3:28Speaker 2: will be. And the media organisations have been told in
- 3:33Speaker 2: no uncertain terms that they're not to reveal where the
- 3:36Speaker 2: location is. Now, I think this blackout will last all
- 3:40Speaker 2: of maybe two minutes. When school goes back next week
- 3:44Speaker 2: and the young Prince Archie, who's seven, and Princess Lilibet,
- 3:49Speaker 2: who's five, turn up at school, social media will be
- 3:53Speaker 2: awash with this. So I don't know that they're able
- 3:56Speaker 2: to keep a lid on exactly where they're going to
- 3:58Speaker 2: be living for very long.
- 4:05Speaker 1: We all know they've been on a global privacy tour,
- 4:08Speaker 1: the Sussexes, and so they will want to keep that secret.
- 4:11Speaker 1: But there is also a real reason for the need
- 4:14Speaker 1: for some privacy. Britons are still reeling from the shocking
- 4:18Speaker 1: murder of a politician, Anne Widdicombe, in her home.
- 4:21Speaker 3: Investigating whether the murder of an outspoken former conservative politician
- 4:25Speaker 3: was an act of terrorism.
- 4:28Speaker 1: And it can be a violent place, Britain, and it
- 4:30Speaker 1: is scary to think of the risk that they face
- 4:33Speaker 1: when they do come home. Harry's been in this battle
- 4:35Speaker 1: with government and with Buckingham Palace about who would pay
- 4:38Speaker 1: for security. What do you think will happen? Will the
- 4:41Speaker 1: government stump up for 24-hour armed security for this pair?
- 4:46Speaker 2: I don't think so. It's such a political potato at
- 4:49Speaker 2: the moment. I think King Charles will be the one
- 4:52Speaker 2: that ends up digging deep into his pockets. I think
- 4:56Speaker 2: the longstanding security issues are if Harry is over here,
- 5:01Speaker 2: as a non-working royal, and like all other non-working royals,
- 5:05Speaker 2: they don't have automatic 24-hour security. Now, the argument could
- 5:09Speaker 2: be he served two tours of Afghanistan, he's been involved
- 5:14Speaker 2: in conflict, and therefore there may be people who have
- 5:18Speaker 2: some certain grievances against him, and notwithstanding the whole Megxit
- 5:23Speaker 2: catastrophe that's happened over the last six years. So, He
- 5:28Speaker 2: could argue a case that he has a need for
- 5:30Speaker 2: stronger security than any other non-working royal. But then there's
- 5:35Speaker 2: this fine line, is he a royal or is he
- 5:38Speaker 2: a celebrity? And as a celebrity that's making private income,
- 5:43Speaker 2: earning money off being a royal, then the taxpayer is saying, well,
- 5:48Speaker 2: maybe you should be the one that funds your security,
- 5:50Speaker 2: not us.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Coming up, what about Harry's massive legal bill? They definitely
- 6:08Speaker 1: need private income because he's just been ordered to pay
- 6:11Speaker 1: a part of the legal costs of the male... newspaper group,
- 6:15Speaker 1: which he unsuccessfully sued for a breach of privacy.
- 6:18Speaker 3: The judge dismissing every single one of the Duke of
- 6:22Speaker 3: Sussex's claims, saying that there just wasn't enough evidence to
- 6:26Speaker 3: prove that the papers had obtained their information illegally.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Is that money going to come from the King as well?
- 6:33Speaker 2: I don't know because Harry has had several sources of income.
- 6:37Speaker 2: He's had an inheritance from the Queen Mother. He's had
- 6:41Speaker 2: an inheritance from his own mother. And he's been able
- 6:45Speaker 2: to use that money and also leverage it with some
- 6:49Speaker 2: private income coming in through their foundation, the Archwell Foundation.
- 6:55Speaker 2: And then you've got Megan's own jam making business.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Of course, there will be fruit preserves. I think we're
- 7:01Speaker 1: all clear at this point that jam is my jam.
- 7:03Speaker 2: But there's so many more products. And, you know, she
- 7:05Speaker 2: hawks her clothes off and gets a commission of whatever
- 7:08Speaker 2: she wears now. And so they do have some income,
- 7:11Speaker 2: but of course, they're outgoings and they're style of their lifestyle,
- 7:16Speaker 2: the extravagance of their lifestyle, really means that they're spending
- 7:21Speaker 2: and dipping into their wallets enormously. So I think by
- 7:26Speaker 2: coming to the UK, it may be a little bit
- 7:28Speaker 2: cheaper for them if some of that security cost is
- 7:31Speaker 2: covered by the king. And of course, the king will
- 7:34Speaker 2: be thrilled that he will have more access to his
- 7:37Speaker 2: two grandchildren, that he might be able to have some
- 7:40Speaker 2: more private conversations with Harry. But the big elephant in
- 7:44Speaker 2: the room is the relationship between Harry and William. And
- 7:47Speaker 2: that is just a no-go zone. The two don't talk.
- 7:50Speaker 2: They don't want to talk. Certainly, William has no interest
- 7:54Speaker 2: in having anything to do with his brother. He doesn't
- 7:57Speaker 2: trust him. And he doesn't feel that mending bridges would
- 8:01Speaker 2: actually be in the monarchy's best interest in the long term.
- 8:05Speaker 2: So therefore, that rift is going to continue. And it's
- 8:09Speaker 2: going to be perhaps even more awkward in the coming year.
- 8:13Speaker 2: if they're both in the same country and within closer
- 8:16Speaker 2: proximity to each other, then certainly than what Prince William
- 8:19Speaker 2: would like.
- 8:21Speaker 1: That animosity between the brothers is partly about their wives,
- 8:24Speaker 1: isn't it? In Harry's book, he wrote that William had
- 8:27Speaker 1: expressed reservations about Meghan. He wrote that Meghan didn't like
- 8:30Speaker 1: Kate or that Kate had been kind of cold and
- 8:33Speaker 1: icy and had rebuffed Meghan on things like borrowing her
- 8:36Speaker 1: lip gloss and fight over kids' christening outfits or wedding outfits.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Is that something that Harry, with his considerable charm, can
- 8:44Speaker 1: possibly rebuild?
- 8:46Speaker 2: Well, Harry and Catherine used to have a fabulous relationship.
- 8:49Speaker 2: In fact, they seemed really close. And Catherine was the
- 8:53Speaker 2: one who was seen to be the person that could
- 8:55Speaker 2: bring the two brothers together until it emerged that in
- 9:00Speaker 2: his book, Spare, that the royal that he was accusing
- 9:03Speaker 2: of being racist was Princess Catherine. And so ever since
- 9:07Speaker 2: that moment, there's just been complete no-go zone as far
- 9:11Speaker 2: as Harry's concerned. So I think Harry may have crossed
- 9:16Speaker 2: the line there that I don't think William will ever
- 9:19Speaker 2: come back and mend the bridges there. Publicly, there could
- 9:23Speaker 2: be a situation where they are at certain events together.
- 9:27Speaker 2: I'm thinking maybe Trooping of the Colour or Christmas at
- 9:31Speaker 2: Sandringham where they're walking to the church, some certain public
- 9:35Speaker 2: event private moments that the royal family have but I
- 9:40Speaker 2: don't think that you will see them walking in tandem
- 9:43Speaker 2: together so it's going to be a very interesting something
- 9:47Speaker 2: that will keep newspapers enthralled for the next little while
- 9:50Speaker 2: and the public is quite keen to know as well.
- 9:59Speaker 1: We're going to get a lot more jam content, I'd say, Jack.
- 10:02Speaker 1: There'll be things being wrapped in Japanese scarves and dried
- 10:06Speaker 1: flowers as far as the eye can see on Megan's
- 10:09Speaker 1: social feeds. How are they going to navigate this idea
- 10:13Speaker 1: of working for an income and also showing up at
- 10:17Speaker 1: royal events consistently? Kind of working as royals. I mean,
- 10:20Speaker 1: this is the model that they pitched to the Queen
- 10:22Speaker 1: before 2020 when they left and she rejected. Yes.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Well, it does look like it's a half in, half
- 10:28Speaker 2: out model, doesn't it, by just appearance. But I think
- 10:32Speaker 2: the line is going to be drawn that they won't
- 10:34Speaker 2: be involved in any royal tours. There won't be any
- 10:38Speaker 2: official royal engagements. There could be some private engagements by Harry,
- 10:44Speaker 2: especially because he does have some associations with some charities.
- 10:48Speaker 2: There's just a handful that he's involved with. So he
- 10:51Speaker 2: may get involved with those, but there won't be any
- 10:53Speaker 2: extra work. And he will only be seen with the
- 10:56Speaker 2: royals when there's these private occasions, when they're going to
- 11:01Speaker 2: church on Christmas Day, or maybe it's the king's birthday
- 11:05Speaker 2: and trooping of the colour, they're standing out on the
- 11:07Speaker 2: balcony watching the red arrows fly over. And Meghan and
- 11:12Speaker 2: Harry want that. They want to be seen to be
- 11:14Speaker 2: closer to the crown because that's where their cachet is.
- 11:17Speaker 2: That is where they need to show that they have
- 11:21Speaker 2: some commercial benefit, that they are close to the monarchy.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Harry is fifth in line to the throne. It's reminding
- 11:29Speaker 2: everybody that he is a royal member and that his
- 11:34Speaker 2: children are also royal members. And I think that's the
- 11:37Speaker 2: critical thing here. I think that's driving it, actually. I
- 11:40Speaker 2: think it's Meghan and Harry wanting the kids to have
- 11:45Speaker 2: a royal upbringing. They feel that they're entitled to it.
- 11:49Speaker 2: You've got to think that the kids themselves now are questioning, hey,
- 11:53Speaker 2: I'm a prince, I'm a princess. Where's my castle? Where's
- 11:56Speaker 2: my pony? And I think there's a lot of pressure
- 12:00Speaker 2: on them as parents to come up with the goods.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Well, not many parents can actually make that dream come true,
- 12:06Speaker 1: but these two can. Thank you, Jack.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Clare.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Jacqueline Magne is The Australian's Europe correspondent. You can read
- 12:20Speaker 1: her reporting and analysis about the Royals and the rest
- 12:23Speaker 1: of Europe right now at theaustralian.com.au.