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- 0:13Who dat to the who dat nation welcome to the dome patrol podcast your podcast for the new Orleans Saints here on the KB radio network I am your host Kevin Reed and
- 0:26week five of the NFL season is wrapped up nice and tight with a nice shiny bow on top
- 0:34As Monday Night Football has come to a close,
- 0:37when our New Orleans Saints took on the defending champs,
- 0:41the undefeated Kansas City Chiefs in Arrowhead Stadium.
- 0:46Well,
- 0:46it's not Arrowhead anymore,
- 0:47isn't it?
- 0:48It's called something else.
- 0:50But in any event,
- 0:51it don't matter.
- 0:52It could have been
- 0:54I-10
- 0:55Stadium. It didn't matter.
- 0:58The New Orleans Saints have fallen yet again for the third time.
- 1:03consecutive week putting their record at two and three falling to the chiefs by the score of 26 to 13 let me let me just start off the show like this first and foremost this is my second take
- 1:20on the show and and i might be a little winded a little tired and it probably it probably won't be the best and i want to apologize for it not being the best it's not for reasons of
- 1:32the game or what I prepared for the show.
- 1:36The reason is like that
- 1:38I recorded about
- 1:4130 minutes of the episode and didn't realize that my file was corrupted and it didn't record.
- 1:50And
- 1:51I went on a
- 1:5230 minute rant,
- 1:55an epic 30 minute rant.
- 1:58And it's probably.
- 1:58that's probably why it stopped that's probably god reached down and hit the stop button or something because i went off i'm not gonna lie to you i went off i probably won't go off like that this go around i'm gonna try i'm gonna try i'm gonna try to stay professional for
- 2:16this go around but it was it was kind of upsetting you know i threw the headphones and everything almost broke the monitor here but it's all good it's all good got everything straight now and so
- 2:28who are ready to go but like i said the saints have lost their third consecutive game and now they sit in third place in a division at two and three uh the kansas city chiefs continued their undefeated streak they are currently five and oh on the season and
- 2:49their first decisive win of the season uh the previous four games were high and tight you know they
- 2:57Squeaked it out at the end and needed some assistance from the refs and all this other foolishness for the first month of the season.
- 3:06Not today.
- 3:07Not against the Saints.
- 3:08Didn't need their help.
- 3:09Didn't need the refs'help this quarter.
- 3:13The Saints helped them out enough.
- 3:16The game started off.
- 3:18The game started off.
- 3:19Opening drive.
- 3:20Saints get the ball.
- 3:22They're moving the ball pretty well.
- 3:24They're running the ball.
- 3:26pretty good despite the fact our depleted offensive line this makeshift offensive line the saints were actually moving the ball that first drive only to end in epic fashion and this is where my rant came in last time and
- 3:45i'm gonna try not to do well i can't help it i'm gonna give it to you again i mean i'm gonna do it again because it needs to be said i i want the who that nation
- 3:56I want everybody who is a Saints fan in some shape form or fashion to come to the realization the Saints aren't going anywhere with Dennis Allen as the head coach of this team with Derek Carr as the quarterback of this team.
- 4:14I just came to that realization.
- 4:16I already knew.
- 4:18I already knew.
- 4:19I was trying,
- 4:20bro.
- 4:20Honest to God.
- 4:22I went into this season optimistic.
- 4:25I said,
- 4:25you know what?
- 4:27Let bygones be bygones.
- 4:29Water under the bridge the last two seasons.
- 4:33Let's go into this fresh.
- 4:35We got a new offense.
- 4:37It seems like we got a new attitude,
- 4:40a new swag.
- 4:41You know,
- 4:42they start the season,
- 4:43our first two games of the season,
- 4:45they're molly whopping teams.
- 4:47Granted,
- 4:47it was the Carolina Panthers.
- 4:49Granted,
- 4:50it was the Dallas Cowboys,
- 4:52but they did what they were supposed to do.
- 4:54They wiped the field with those teams.
- 4:57Alright,
- 4:58they turned the corner.
- 4:59Even then I was skeptical.
- 5:01I don't like you know,
- 5:03we're not gonna be able to have this offensive output the entire season I don't see that happening
- 5:09But if as long as we're half that if we could do half that in every game offensively would be alright and
- 5:22You know,
- 5:23that's typically the drop-off,
- 5:24you know,
- 5:25you was averaging 40 what?
- 5:2743 44 points a game at that point you scored 91 points in the first two games and so you're like okay if you could cut that in half to say you know you dropped off 50 understandable that's still an average of 28 points or something i don't know i'm i'm hard with math but let's just say 28 points a game that's winnable especially if you have a defense that's not allowing 20 points a game that's
- 5:54not allowing but one touchdown per game
- 5:57And so you're like,
- 5:58okay,
- 5:58we're good.
- 6:00Well,
- 6:00the defense held up their end of the bargain for the most part.
- 6:05But offensively,
- 6:07all of a sudden,
- 6:08we can't score 20 points.
- 6:11We can't put up 20 points in a game.
- 6:14And in one of those games,
- 6:15you're at home.
- 6:17And I'm like,
- 6:18man,
- 6:18how can this team that was just unstoppable at one point fall off like that?
- 6:26You can't tell me the defenses have adjusted that well.
- 6:31Now,
- 6:31they made adjustments.
- 6:32I know they took some things away.
- 6:34They're taking away that deep play with Shadiq.
- 6:39Of course,
- 6:40defenses,
- 6:41they can take that away.
- 6:42They can take the top off or at least keep the lid on the top,
- 6:46I should say.
- 6:47All right,
- 6:48you can contain Shadiq,
- 6:50but what about the run game?
- 6:51All right,
- 6:52you can make the excuse.
- 6:53Offensive line is banged up.
- 6:55blase blase blue even still you ain't even trying to run the ball now they did try at the beginning of this game but once the game got kind of out of control they run away from it and you still losing linemen excuse
- 7:13me in the course of this game and well we'll go through the whole chain of events but it's like man is this team truly cursed you
- 7:24You know what I'm saying?
- 7:25Is there a curse on this team for real?
- 7:28But going back to the Derek Carr of it all,
- 7:30that opening drive,
- 7:31you're moving the ball.
- 7:32They were running the ball efficiently.
- 7:34They were actually looking good running the ball.
- 7:37And then,
- 7:38okay,
- 7:38you made some passes,
- 7:40but you're not looking for the dinking and dunking.
- 7:42In the middle of the field,
- 7:43which was wide open,
- 7:45wide open,
- 7:47Derek Carr does one of the most boneheads.
- 7:52Interceptions
- 7:54I've ever seen thrown in an NFL game.
- 7:57High school kids know not to throw the ball like that.
- 8:01Oh,
- 8:02somebody's coming at me.
- 8:04A defensive play,
- 8:06and that's his problem.
- 8:07Every time he gets pressure,
- 8:08he just throws the ball.
- 8:09He just throws it.
- 8:10That's how he got the interception last week.
- 8:13The week before that,
- 8:14same thing when he threw the intercept.
- 8:18He's so scared to get hit.
- 8:20It's like,
- 8:21bro,
- 8:21you play football,
- 8:22you're going to get hit.
- 8:25But he throws the ball like a punt.
- 8:28It was like playing throw up tackle when we were kids.
- 8:32You remember that throw up tackle?
- 8:35That's exactly what he did.
- 8:37And he got picked off.
- 8:39And at that moment,
- 8:39I knew,
- 8:41man,
- 8:41we're going to lose this game.
- 8:44We're going to lose this game because Derek Carr does not have the mental capacity.
- 8:50to brush things off he doesn't brush off turnovers he doesn't brush off bad plays you know what i'm saying it's like he doesn't know how to recover from a mistake and
- 9:05then he blamed the flex and see he'll find a way to justify that he'll find a way to justify that pick i bet you dollars the donuts he'll find a way to do it if he don't do it dennis allen will i bet you
- 9:20I haven't watched the post-game interview with Dennis Allen,
- 9:26but he always defends Derek Carr,
- 9:29always,
- 9:30no matter what.
- 9:31Now,
- 9:31he'll call out Shadid for that muff punt last week.
- 9:34He'll call out Chris Olave for not running the right route or
- 9:39Kendrick Miller for not being healthy and all this other stuff.
- 9:42Yeah,
- 9:43he'll call them out,
- 9:44but he'll never say anything negative towards Derek Carr.
- 9:49And especially this week,
- 9:50he's not going to say anything because Derek Carr ended up getting hurt at the end of the game.
- 9:54And you know what's sad about that?
- 9:56I didn't care.
- 9:58I didn't care.
- 10:00he got hurt god forgive me i hope he's all right but i didn't care honestly he is like man whatever i don't care at this point he can go he can go this dude is not it he is not it he is not the
- 10:19one to lead us to what we ultimately covet for here in the who that nation and that is a super bowl i'm sorry i'm going too far
- 10:30I'm reaching too far.
- 10:33I'm reaching for the moon.
- 10:35Let's just stick with the stars or is it vice versa?
- 10:38Whatever the case is.
- 10:40The division.
- 10:42Let's win the division.
- 10:44Let's win a playoff game.
- 10:46Then we can talk about the Super Bowl.
- 10:48We can't even get out of our own way.
- 10:50Now,
- 10:50this is the first game I can clearly say the Saints lost.
- 10:54They got that.
- 10:56Somebody beat the Saints.
- 10:57Now,
- 10:58the other two games with the Eagles and the
- 11:01Falcons,
- 11:03Saints lost those games.
- 11:05The Eagles did not beat the Saints.
- 11:07Falcons did not beat the Saints.
- 11:09The Saints beat themselves in those two games.
- 11:11Tonight,
- 11:12Monday Night Football,
- 11:14primetime,
- 11:14world can see,
- 11:17Chiefs beat them.
- 11:18Chiefs beat the bricks off them.
- 11:20And that 26-13 score does not reflect what truly went on.
- 11:25I think,
- 11:26I think.
- 11:27the Chiefs got into the red zone,
- 11:29what,
- 11:30seven,
- 11:30eight times maybe?
- 11:32We're going to go over the numbers,
- 11:34but they were in the red zone like crazy.
- 11:38Saints and their patent infamous bend don't break,
- 11:42you know,
- 11:43they'll let you get down the field,
- 11:44but then they're,
- 11:45you know,
- 11:46stingy once they get in the red zone.
- 11:48But either way,
- 11:49you know,
- 11:50I mean,
- 11:51come on,
- 11:51man,
- 11:51we got to do better than this.
- 11:53We got to do better than this as a team.
- 11:56as a team i just i don't know and dennis allen he needs to stick to something be be be strong in your convictions you said you're gonna uh run man club i didn't i didn't agree with that statement that's
- 12:13what he was saying earlier to the week oh we're gonna stick with what we're doing with man coverage all right fine that's fine but then you see in the game they're running zone
- 12:22Which is it?
- 12:23Then they'll switch back to man.
- 12:24Then they'll go back into a zone.
- 12:26And every time they do that,
- 12:28every time they do that,
- 12:30you see Patrick Mahomes checking out.
- 12:32He'll check out whatever they're doing.
- 12:34Go back.
- 12:35You know,
- 12:35he saw everything Dennis Allen was throwing at him.
- 12:40Everything.
- 12:41Now,
- 12:41I'm not going to rag on the defense too much because the defense was the one shining light tonight.
- 12:46The one shining light.
- 12:48They did hold him to 26 points.
- 12:51which is pretty phenomenal against this team.
- 12:55This is,
- 12:56like I said,
- 12:57the defending champs,
- 12:58undefeated team.
- 12:59Despite the fact how they won their games in the past,
- 13:02they won.
- 13:04Now,
- 13:04you can make an argument.
- 13:06You actually can make an argument that the Chiefs really didn't beat the Saints like that.
- 13:12Now,
- 13:13and I can rock with it.
- 13:15A lot of this is anger that I'm saying,
- 13:18that I'm coming at you with.
- 13:20right now,
- 13:21but the truth is the
- 13:23Saints got their behind whipped,
- 13:25but the Saints had their opportunities.
- 13:28They had their opportunities.
- 13:30The Saints managed to make it close before halftime.
- 13:34They cut it to three late in the second quarter.
- 13:39They scored a touchdown,
- 13:41deep throw to
- 13:42Shadi.
- 13:44All right,
- 13:45it's 10 to seven.
- 13:47I think it was,
- 13:48it probably was less than two minutes left in the game.
- 13:50The Chiefs was able to go down,
- 13:54kick a field goal.
- 13:55All right,
- 13:56that's fine.
- 13:56That's fine.
- 13:57That's fine.
- 13:58We was able to hold them.
- 14:00You know,
- 14:00we was able to hold them.
- 14:02It's still a one possession game going into the half.
- 14:06Some strange reason,
- 14:09Saints went three and out and gave them people another shot.
- 14:14They gave them one more chance.
- 14:17and got another field goal now it's a nine point game just that quick just like that and you're like my god man come on bro and then chiefs get the ball back first in this in in the second half so now it's like oh my god thankfully
- 14:35chiefs didn't score on their opening possession but that's besides the point you know but we still had a shot saints
- 14:45Got back into the game in the third quarter thanks to an end zone interception by the most unlikely of figures,
- 14:54the defensive tackle,
- 14:57Kalen Saunders.
- 14:59who coincidentally is a former Kansas City Chief.
- 15:02He returned to 36 yards,
- 15:04and quarterback Derrick Carr led the Saints to their second touchdown drive,
- 15:12a six-yard pass to tight end Foster Monroe.
- 15:15Yes,
- 15:15we got a tight end catching a touchdown today.
- 15:18Who knew?
- 15:20And they made it 16-13 at the start of the fourth quarter.
- 15:25So now you're like,
- 15:26okay,
- 15:27we're getting
- 15:28We're clawing our way back in this.
- 15:30We have a chance to do something in this game.
- 15:34Well,
- 15:35Patrick Mahomes thought differently.
- 15:37He led the Chiefs to a scoring drive to make it 23-13.
- 15:42The Saints marched back into Chiefs territory on the next possession,
- 15:46but Derek Carr,
- 15:47on the fourth down attempt,
- 15:50he threw the ball to Mason Tifton,
- 15:52the rookie,
- 15:53who was,
- 15:54he had a step on him,
- 15:55and actually,
- 15:56Derek Carr made a...
- 15:57pretty good throw mason tiffin they just flat out dropped flat out dropped it uh uh coincidentally that was the same play derrick all got hurt on uh they said it was an oblique injury i don't know what an oblique is i guess that's in your stomach or something or in your back a hip or something i don't know i
- 16:20gotta see in biology i don't i don't know what it is but in any event uh jack
- 16:27Jake Hayter,
- 16:27he came in on the final drive for the Saints offense and did nothing.
- 16:35He did nothing.
- 16:36The Saints used their makeshift offensive line.
- 16:39Running back Alvin Kamara could only manage 26 yards on 11 carries.
- 16:44Twenty-six yards.
- 16:49Shadid,
- 16:50he had a big night.
- 16:50He had four catches for 86 yards and a touchdown.
- 16:57it was i mean that was it that was the only offensive i'll put your head i mean it was saints could do nothing uh patrick holmes on the other hand he had a monster game but he didn't throw a touchdown tonight once
- 17:12again you want to rag on the defense but at the same time the defense they play well enough to win the new orleans saints defense they're on a new they're not elite
- 17:25They're not an elite defense.
- 17:27They're not top
- 17:3010. I would say they're more middle of the pack type defense.
- 17:34I think they're capable of being a top 10 defense,
- 17:37but they're not there.
- 17:38They're not there.
- 17:39They really,
- 17:41they're hampered too.
- 17:42They were really hampered tonight as well.
- 17:44I mean,
- 17:46two-thirds of their linebackers were out.
- 17:49You know,
- 17:49they didn't play.
- 17:51And so they were really.
- 17:54It was a mass unit out there,
- 17:55but no excuses.
- 17:57That's not an excuse.
- 17:58But it's just,
- 18:02it really hurts.
- 18:03It really hurts to see that team squander these opportunities.
- 18:08Now,
- 18:08granted,
- 18:09I had figured the Saints were going to lose this game.
- 18:13I predicted the Saints would lose this game,
- 18:15but I thought I would see,
- 18:18you know,
- 18:18a little more effort,
- 18:20just a tad bit more effort.
- 18:23Better execution,
- 18:24better play calling.
- 18:26Oh,
- 18:27man,
- 18:27I don't know.
- 18:28Well,
- 18:28next week,
- 18:29the Saints will host the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
- 18:31who are 3-2 right now in the Superdome.
- 18:34Tampa Bay will be here this week.
- 18:36Actually,
- 18:36I think they come tomorrow,
- 18:39Tuesday.
- 18:41They're coming to New Orleans because of the hurricane that is projected to make landfall in Tampa,
- 18:48either Tuesday or Wednesday.
- 18:50I haven't been watching the news.
- 18:52you know thoughts and prayers to everybody in florida who's going to be affected by that and tampa bay buccaneers are affected by that so they're just going to stay the week here in new orleans and uh prepare to kick our butts while they're here but that's
- 19:07going to be the game for sunday let's go over the stats of tonight's game against the kansas city chiefs uh before i go over the numbers of the game uh
- 19:19Derek Carr did leave the game with an oblique injury.
- 19:24Safety Will Harris,
- 19:25he left the game earlier with a hamstring.
- 19:28Didn't look good when he pulled up.
- 19:30So
- 19:32I don't know what's going to come of that.
- 19:36And let's keep in mind,
- 19:38like I mentioned,
- 19:39we play Tampa on Sunday.
- 19:41Short week.
- 19:42Short week.
- 19:43So
- 19:45I don't know how we're going to navigate through.
- 19:47this but let's go over the stats uh starting with passing for the new orleans saints derrick carr was the leading passer today
- 19:5518 for 28 165 yards two touchdowns and one
- 19:59Horrible interception.
- 20:01He was sacked one time tonight.
- 20:04Jake Hayter,
- 20:04like I said,
- 20:05he came in late.
- 20:06He was two for seven for 17 yards.
- 20:09For the Kansas City Chiefs,
- 20:10it was Pat Mahomes.
- 20:12He was 28 for 39,
- 20:14331 yards,
- 20:16no touchdowns,
- 20:17and one interception.
- 20:18He was sacked twice tonight,
- 20:21and he did all that with no wide receivers.
- 20:27I just wanted to throw that out there.
- 20:29Uh,
- 20:30rushing for the New Orleans Saints,
- 20:31the leading rusher tonight was,
- 20:33of course,
- 20:34Alvin Kamara,
- 20:3511 carries for 26 yards.
- 20:37Jake Hader,
- 20:38two carries for 11 yards.
- 20:40And Jamal Williams,
- 20:41two carries for nine yards.
- 20:43For the Kansas City Chiefs,
- 20:44Kareem Hunt,
- 20:4627 carries for 102 yards and a touchdown.
- 20:51Patrick Mahomes,
- 20:52six carries for 22 yards.
- 20:54Uh,
- 20:54Carson Steele had...
- 20:57five carries for 12 yards,
- 20:58and Xavier Worthy,
- 21:00one carry for three yards.
- 21:03Leading receiver for the New Orleans Saints was Rashid Shaheed,
- 21:07four catches for 86 yards and a touchdown.
- 21:10Alvin Kamara comes in second with six catches for 40 yards.
- 21:15Jawan Johnson,
- 21:16five catches for 31 yards.
- 21:18Foster Monroe,
- 21:20two catches for
- 21:2113 yards and a touchdown.
- 21:23Chris Olave had two catches for 10 yards.
- 21:27Two catch for 10 yards.
- 21:29Mason Tifton had one catch for two yards.
- 21:33For the Kansas City Chiefs,
- 21:35their leading receiver today was Juju Smith-Schuster.
- 21:39Seven catches for 130 yards,
- 21:43which is a shock to me.
- 21:45It was a shock to me.
- 21:48A lot of that was off of one catch,
- 21:50though.
- 21:51I think he had like a
- 21:5250-yard reception.
- 21:54But for the most part,
- 21:55he really...
- 21:56you know,
- 21:57average.
- 21:59Travis Kelsey,
- 22:00of course,
- 22:00he had nine catches for 70 yards.
- 22:03At one point,
- 22:03he was the only one getting the ball,
- 22:05and he was wide open every time.
- 22:07And it was so infuriating.
- 22:11It's so infuriating to watch that transpire throughout the game,
- 22:16at least early on in the game.
- 22:17I think he got hurt,
- 22:18but he didn't come out.
- 22:20But it was,
- 22:22I forgot where it was.
- 22:23I think it was on the goal line.
- 22:25He got kind of bent up.
- 22:26But after that,
- 22:27he really didn't get the ball after that.
- 22:30He was mostly in there as a decoy,
- 22:32I think.
- 22:33But on defense,
- 22:34the leading tackler for the New Orleans Saints was returning
- 22:38Demario Davis off of injury from last week.
- 22:40He had 11 tackles today.
- 22:43And for the
- 22:45Kansas City Chiefs,
- 22:46it was Nick Bolton.
- 22:47He had
- 22:4811 tackles today.
- 22:50Team stats.
- 22:53Now...
- 22:55the team stats gonna tell it all this this this defines everything that happened in this game tonight first downs total first downs today saints had 14 total first down the kansas city chiefs had 28 doubled doubled
- 23:14that uh that tells a lot third down efficiency saints were four for 10 the chiefs were six for 14 on you
- 23:23fourth down efficiency saints went for it twice converted zero zero on fourth down the chiefs went for it once and uh well they had one attempt and converted it once so they were 100 on fourth down efficiency total plays now when we when we want to rag on the defense i
- 23:46need you to hear these numbers hear these numbers and once again this isn't an excuse you
- 23:53but you have to put things in perspective.
- 23:56Look at it in its totality.
- 23:58The Saints ran 51 plays on offense.
- 24:03The Kansas City Chiefs ran
- 24:0580 plays.
- 24:0980 plays.
- 24:10Wait till we get to the time of possession.
- 24:1280 plays.
- 24:14Total yardage.
- 24:16Saints had 220 yards.
- 24:19The Chiefs had 460.
- 24:22Total drives,
- 24:23they both had 10 drives.
- 24:26That really shines a light on the total plays ran.
- 24:29They both had the same number of drives.
- 24:32Yet and still,
- 24:33the Kansas City Chiefs ran almost twice as many plays as the New Orleans Saints.
- 24:39Yards per play,
- 24:41Saints had 4.3 yards per play,
- 24:43which isn't bad.
- 24:45But the Chiefs had
- 24:475.8 yards per play.
- 24:49Passing yardage,
- 24:50Saints had 174.
- 24:52total yards to the Chiefs
- 24:54321 rushing the Saints had 15 rushes
- 25:0115 rushes for 46 yards as a team.
- 25:06The Kansas City Chiefs,
- 25:0739 rushes for 139 yards.
- 25:13Yards per rush,
- 25:14Saints 3.1,
- 25:17Chiefs 3.6.
- 25:19Red zone,
- 25:21the
- 25:21Saints were 1 for 1.
- 25:22They only got in the red zone once,
- 25:25but they were 100%.
- 25:27The Chiefs were 2.
- 25:28for seven they got in the red zone seven times and only managed to score 26 points yeah i mean like i said look at the defense in its totality in its totality it is not the defense um
- 25:45penalties saints have five penalties for 70 yards uh chiefs had six penalties for 55 yards uh one of those penalties pausing the depot man it's starting to become a habit
- 25:58You start to do this at least once a game with the PIs.
- 26:03Granted,
- 26:03he's the reason why
- 26:05Saunders got that interception.
- 26:07That was a really good defensive play by him to knock the ball out of,
- 26:11I think that was Juju
- 26:12Smith-Schuster's hand.
- 26:15Great play,
- 26:16but two plays before that,
- 26:18that's how they got in the red zone,
- 26:21was the PI.
- 26:23I mean,
- 26:24come on,
- 26:24man.
- 26:24Pause the deep.
- 26:25You got to do better,
- 26:26man.
- 26:26You got to clean that up.
- 26:28Seriously,
- 26:29you got to clean that up.
- 26:31Turnovers,
- 26:32they were one apiece.
- 26:34Time of possession,
- 26:35Saints had the ball for 20 minutes and 4 seconds to the Kansas City Chiefs,
- 26:4139 minutes and 56 seconds.
- 26:44Might as well round that off.
- 26:45They had the ball for 40 minutes.
- 26:48The defense was on the field for 40 minutes.
- 26:53the entire game this is calling what it is the entire game uh quarters uh there are four quarters in the game every quarter is 15 minutes in case you don't know they basically they basically was there for a half for
- 27:10one entire half plus five minutes come on did you expect you expect a team
- 27:19to win like that and the reason i'm saying is not so much what the chiefs were doing now chiefs were doing an excellent job of extending drives and having these long six minute drives and all this here that was great but when you have the saints offense three
- 27:34and out three and out three and out in it turnover and all these other foolishness man come on man yeah you gotta do better you gotta do better let's get to the grades of
- 27:46tonight's game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
- 27:49If this is your first time joining the show,
- 27:52welcome to the show,
- 27:53by the way.
- 27:54But how we do the grading system,
- 27:57I grade every unit of the New Orleans Saints for the game,
- 28:02offense,
- 28:03defense,
- 28:03special teams,
- 28:04and coaching.
- 28:05We round that up and come up with an overall game,
- 28:09overall grade,
- 28:10I should say.
- 28:11Wish it was a game.
- 28:12Overall grade for the New Orleans Saints.
- 28:16performance on Monday night against the Chiefs.
- 28:19Let's begin with the offense.
- 28:22Offense had just a horrible showing tonight.
- 28:27Horrible.
- 28:28This is probably the worst out of the three losses,
- 28:31in my humble opinion.
- 28:33I know we had a horrible showing last week against Atlanta,
- 28:38but this top that this they looked ejected.
- 28:43There was no energy from that team.
- 28:44They just looked
- 28:45ejected on that field derrick carr looked like whatever after that interception it was like a deer in headlights at that point he he was just trying to do whatever trying to make up for it and when he threw that touchdown he yelling to the sideline oh i told you i told you what
- 29:06told us what what what what you what you said or what have you done we can you don't have to tell me nothing
- 29:14You've shown me everything I needed to see.
- 29:17And he is not the guy.
- 29:21I'm sorry.
- 29:22Derek Carr is just not the guy.
- 29:27They didn't run the ball.
- 29:28You only ran the ball
- 29:3115 times.
- 29:3415 times.
- 29:36You're on the road.
- 29:38You're on the road,
- 29:39man.
- 29:41What did you see?
- 29:42what did you see in game film that said okay we can jack it up
- 29:48if you're not going to run the ball run some run some screen plays run some do some dinking and dunking you weren't trying it everything derrick hard looking deep looking deep trying to go deep trying to force it to shadid he's throwing the ball to shadid and triple coverage and all his others what are y'all doing bro
- 30:06the offense tonight gets a d plus i mean horrible the only thing saved them from an f they did manage to put up 13 points
- 30:17That's the only thing that saved him.
- 30:19But it was a piss poor performance by the New Orleans Saints offense tonight.
- 30:24Very,
- 30:24very disappointing.
- 30:26Defense.
- 30:27Defense.
- 30:28Defense.
- 30:31I wish I can say that Patrick Mahomes just went wild on him.
- 30:36You know,
- 30:37I can live with that.
- 30:39I can live with Patrick Mahomes going full
- 30:42Patrick Mahomes on him.
- 30:44Because it's Patrick Mahomes.
- 30:46I'm cool with that.
- 30:48But that wasn't really the case.
- 30:51It wasn't.
- 30:53The Saints defense did their job.
- 30:57It could have been better.
- 30:58It should have been better.
- 30:59A lot of those drives,
- 31:02there was some poor tackling.
- 31:04There was some poor execution,
- 31:06I felt,
- 31:08on pass rush.
- 31:09I've been saying this since the beginning of the season.
- 31:12Even when the first two weeks of the season when we were demolishing
- 31:17the Panthers and the Cowboys,
- 31:20that pass rush had question marks around it because we couldn't get to the quarterback.
- 31:27For some strange reason,
- 31:28we could not get to the quarterback,
- 31:30and it's starting to rear his ugly head once again.
- 31:33I know Patrick Mahomes is Harry Houdini Jr.
- 31:37in that pocket.
- 31:39He will escape it by any means necessary and not escape it like...
- 31:45Jalen Hurst or
- 31:48Lamar Jackson or going back to Michael Vick.
- 31:52That's not what he's doing.
- 31:53He's just extending the plate.
- 31:55And when you do that,
- 31:57you expect these cornerbacks,
- 31:59these safeties to cover these receivers for six,
- 32:02seven seconds.
- 32:03No,
- 32:04no,
- 32:05nobody can do that.
- 32:05I don't care what corner he is.
- 32:07That's virtually impossible.
- 32:10And this is how those receivers.
- 32:12break loose get open they break from their routes and voila that magic happens and that's what he's the master of and he did it to him on a few occasions you know so uh you have to get to him and get get him down the problem i had was they were getting back there they
- 32:30couldn't get to him and they this has been a problem and i i wasn't expecting it because just last week kurt cousins
- 32:43who is just a tad bit more mobile than the Statue of Liberty,
- 32:48just a tad bit more mobile than that,
- 32:52y'all couldn't get to him.
- 32:54And so,
- 32:56you know,
- 32:56it doesn't shock me they couldn't get to Patrick Mahomes.
- 32:59But the defense did force them to 20 field goals tonight.
- 33:04I don't know.
- 33:06How many field goals did they kick?
- 33:08About four?
- 33:10Whatever,
- 33:11three or four.
- 33:12And...
- 33:13Really stifled them in the red zone.
- 33:15I mean,
- 33:17got a turnover in the red zone.
- 33:19I mean,
- 33:20what more can you ask for?
- 33:22They held them to 26 points.
- 33:25Your team has proven 26 points ain't nothing for y'all.
- 33:29Matter of fact,
- 33:29y'all have scored that in halves in the first two weeks of the season.
- 33:34And so,
- 33:36theoretically,
- 33:37you would think,
- 33:38okay,
- 33:38the
- 33:39Saints should come out victorious in this.
- 33:40Or at least keep the game closer than what it ended up.
- 33:43being but no it didn't but i don't fault the defense per se but there are problems on that defense and i know we are dealing with a lot of injuries on offense as well but we have a lot on defense too it's just not being talked about as much as offense because that
- 34:01offensive line it has just been murderous role but the defense tonight against the kansas city chiefs gets a c plus uh yeah i mean
- 34:13They weren't the greatest,
- 34:14but
- 34:16I think they played well enough to win this game.
- 34:19They did the best they could against the best.
- 34:23So what more can you ask for?
- 34:25Special teams gets a D.
- 34:26I'm not going to go into a long explanation about them.
- 34:30I mean,
- 34:30Blake Grupe,
- 34:32he's another one
- 34:33I'm pretty much done with.
- 34:34I'm done with him.
- 34:35I mean,
- 34:36yeah,
- 34:36he can kick a
- 34:3758-yarder straight down
- 34:40Bourbon Street,
- 34:41but...
- 34:41Oh,
- 34:42ask him to kick an extra point.
- 34:43A little chip shot extra point.
- 34:45And it's wide right.
- 34:46I mean,
- 34:46come on,
- 34:47bro.
- 34:48Are you serious?
- 34:49How you miss the extra point?
- 34:51And this is second one of the year.
- 34:53We didn't talk about it before because we end up winning that game.
- 34:57But,
- 34:57I mean,
- 34:58come on,
- 34:58man.
- 34:58And granted,
- 34:59that point wouldn't have made a difference tonight.
- 35:02But,
- 35:04I mean,
- 35:04come on.
- 35:05We need all the points we can get.
- 35:07But,
- 35:08yeah,
- 35:08man.
- 35:11And to add to that.
- 35:14Jamal Williams on that kick return.
- 35:17What were you doing dude?
- 35:19Really?
- 35:19What were you doing?
- 35:20What are you thinking?
- 35:21He was an inch away from the Saints starting at the inch yard line
- 35:27You know if he tried to kneel it he's standing there looking around like what should I do run it?
- 35:35What you think you you didn't messed up you could have started at the 30.
- 35:38You almost had us at the inch line
- 35:41Come on,
- 35:41man
- 35:42This is like the second week in a row we didn't have brain farts on special teams.
- 35:47It was Shadi last week trying to field a punt at the two-yard line and muffing it,
- 35:53and then he about to kill us with field position,
- 35:56which we ain't end up doing nothing on that drive anyway,
- 35:59but it's the principle of the thing.
- 36:01Yeah,
- 36:01special teams gets a D.
- 36:02Coaching gets a D+.
- 36:06They did not have this team ready to play.
- 36:09Dennis Allen,
- 36:10I mean,
- 36:11when is enough enough?
- 36:13honestly honestly i mean mickey loom has got to sit back and think and and be honest with itself when is enough enough and you know what the problem is that you know what the problem is it's
- 36:28the fact that dennis allen i think at in his core is a good dude all indications and this is going by players who play with them and people who know him
- 36:42worked with him before say he is a generally good dude and i believe that with my whole heart that he is an awesome guy i think he is he just has that he looks like a cool dude that you could sit down chat with you know throw
- 37:00a few beers down with or whatever y'all like to do he he just seems like a cool dude but that don't mean you're a good coach at least head coach
- 37:11you're a real good defensive coordinator.
- 37:14You can put that on Tombstone.
- 37:16He is an awesome defensive coordinator.
- 37:20Head coach?
- 37:21No,
- 37:22no.
- 37:23I'm sorry.
- 37:25I'm sorry.
- 37:25It's just not working,
- 37:26man.
- 37:27This team,
- 37:28it just seems undisciplined.
- 37:30It's just undisciplined stuff that happens.
- 37:33Not completely undisciplined.
- 37:35It's not like the team is running wild,
- 37:37going rogue all over the place,
- 37:39but it's just...
- 37:40At crucial moments,
- 37:42they do stupid stuff that fundamentally,
- 37:47this is what the coach teaches you.
- 37:49This is what your coach shoves down your throat through training camp and practice,
- 37:56doing the games,
- 37:57all this.
- 37:58You're supposed to be a motivator.
- 37:59You're supposed to teach your team this stuff.
- 38:02And they keep doing it every week.
- 38:06I can see a team,
- 38:07a player doing something every now and then.
- 38:10once in every blue moon and you know it happens people make mistakes they're not robots but when they keep repeating the same thing over and over and over and over again are you teaching these dudes and
- 38:26even if you're teaching them and they're still doing it have the cojones to bench him to say you know what since you ain't listening listen to this bitch
- 38:39listen to a headset or something let's sit down stand next to me or whatever the case may be that's my problem with dennis allen and stop taking up for derrick carr you know like i think i said it on this uh
- 38:54version of the show i probably said it on the last one but whatever if i said it uh earlier i'm gonna repeat it again uh he ragged on poor kendra miller when he got hurt in training
- 39:08I mean,
- 39:08he went off.
- 39:09He went off on Shadid for muffing that pump.
- 39:13Rightfully so.
- 39:15He went off on somebody else about something a couple of weeks ago.
- 39:21But he never,
- 39:22since Derek Carr,
- 39:23been the quarterback of the New Orleans Saints,
- 39:26said one disparaging word about Derek Carr.
- 39:32I understand that's your boy.
- 39:34I get it.
- 39:36But you have eyes,
- 39:38and you have to recognize that the Who That Nation have eyes too.
- 39:43We can see just as well as you can see.
- 39:46And we can see that this dude just ain't it.
- 39:52Stop making excuses for him.
- 39:54You don't make an excuse for nobody else.
- 39:56Don't make an excuse for him.
- 39:59Coaching gets a D+.
- 40:01Overall,
- 40:02the New Orleans Saints performance tonight against the Kansas City Chiefs gets a letter grade of a D+.
- 40:10Yeah,
- 40:10this was a horrible game.
- 40:12this was this was a horrible game worst game of the season so far the only shining light the only light at the end of the tunnel that we can see is that this is probably the
- 40:28last i will say quote unquote tough opponent that we're gonna have at least playoff component uh opponent component opponent that we're gonna have you
- 40:42going forward yeah now there are some teams that pop up on the schedule that are doing better this year than initially thought going into this season you know you got the commanders coming up you know you have uh
- 40:58uh denver coming up and you know you're gonna have some tough matchups but as far as a elite top tier team i think this was it this was the last of it and so
- 41:11the rest are winnable how i know the rest are winnable because these games were winnable these last three weeks saints could easily be five you know maybe that's reaching too far for the moon but
- 41:27i know at worst the saints should be four and one at this point at worst but here we stand at two and three the mvps for tonight's game i give an mvp out every week
- 41:41Uh,
- 41:41this was tough to give an MVP out to this week.
- 41:44And I give one out to the offensive player and a defensive player on offense.
- 41:49Um,
- 41:50even though the offense was poo poo,
- 41:53I'm going to go ahead and give it to Camara,
- 41:56Alvin Camara,
- 41:57Alvin Camara played his heart out.
- 41:59And the reason I'm giving it to him,
- 42:01even though he only had 11 carries for 26 yards,
- 42:05Alvin Camara has a cracked rib.
- 42:07He's dealing with a hip injury.
- 42:09And that man went out.
- 42:10there and gave it his all he did the best he could honest to god he really went out there and played tough and i gotta give him his respect on that uh defensively gotta give it to kalen saunders uh getting that uh interception and getting that big return off of it the
- 42:32play before that he blew up a run play which was i mean monster i mean he blew it up boy you
- 42:39I think he was,
- 42:39no,
- 42:40yeah,
- 42:41he was the one that hit
- 42:43Travis Kelsey,
- 42:45kind of put him out the game for the remainder of the game.
- 42:50Even though Travis Kelsey didn't come out the game,
- 42:53he didn't do anything after that.
- 42:54He didn't.
- 42:56But,
- 42:57yeah,
- 42:58Kalen Saunders,
- 42:59he did his thing tonight against the Chiefs.
- 43:02Unfortunately,
- 43:04he didn't play offense.
- 43:06Yeah.
- 43:08Once again,
- 43:09the New Orleans Saints fall to the Kansas City Chiefs by the score of 26-13.
- 43:14The only good thing,
- 43:15well,
- 43:15not the only good thing.
- 43:16There are some good things to take away from this game,
- 43:18but the biggest thing to take away from this game that you can kind of shake off,
- 43:24no pun intended,
- 43:25Taylor Swift was at the game.
- 43:27You can kind of rest easy knowing that this won't affect you majorly because this was an AFC team.
- 43:36And being as though this is an AFC team,
- 43:38it doesn't hurt you playoff-wise going forward if we want to play that game,
- 43:45you know.
- 43:45But as far as how we stand in our division,
- 43:50trying to keep up in our division,
- 43:52it does hurt.
- 43:53It does hurt because we were trying to keep pace with everybody else.
- 43:57Atlanta is 3-2.
- 43:58Tampa is 3-2.
- 44:00So winning this game would have,
- 44:03you know,
- 44:03tied you with those two teams.
- 44:06With
- 44:07Tampa coming to the Dome this Sunday.
- 44:10And so that would have helped a little bit.
- 44:14But now you're a game behind.
- 44:17But,
- 44:19yeah,
- 44:19it's the AFC team.
- 44:21So maybe that will help you rest easier tonight.
- 44:25And so,
- 44:26yeah,
- 44:27that's the game.
- 44:28How do you feel about the game?
- 44:29Are you upset?
- 44:31Do you think we ought to give Derek Carr another shot?
- 44:35How many more shots are we gonna give him?
- 44:37He's been here for two years and he hasn't shown us nothing.
- 44:42I mean let's be honest here.
- 44:43Let's be real.
- 44:46Let's look over the tenure of Derek.
- 44:49Now,
- 44:50once again,
- 44:51I know the man's hurt.
- 44:52I don't know how severe the injury is.
- 44:54I think I just read he has,
- 44:57he's going for an MRI on Tuesday to see how serious the injury is.
- 45:04Yeah.
- 45:08He has not shown.
- 45:12in any facet,
- 45:13even in the games that we were dominant in.
- 45:16Can you really say Derek Carr was the reason we were dominant in those games?
- 45:20Derek Carr is an average quarterback at best.
- 45:25And I mean average.
- 45:28He is bland.
- 45:31He is straight-up vanilla ice cream.
- 45:35There's nothing amazing about this guy.
- 45:39There's nothing.
- 45:40in Derek Carr that tells me even if this game was close at the end that
- 45:46Derek Carr would lead us to a victory he hasn't done it since he's been here
- 45:51I know there's that super statistic that they love to throw up that Derek Carr has uh the most comeback victories or something what 36 or something I don't know um victories in his career he hasn't done it here and
- 46:08you gotta ask yourself
- 46:11Why did he have to come back in all those games?
- 46:14That's a question you would ask about the cause,
- 46:17not the effect,
- 46:18but the cause.
- 46:20So
- 46:22I have no faith in that dude.
- 46:24Now,
- 46:25I wish him a speedy recovery.
- 46:27I don't want the man to be hurt.
- 46:28I don't want his career to be over or nothing like that.
- 46:30I don't think it's that severe of an injury,
- 46:32but you know what I'm saying.
- 46:34I don't wish bad on the guy as far as health-wise.
- 46:38But I don't.
- 46:38don't want him as my quarterback i'm done when he threw that pick i was done i mean every ounce of emotion that i had was gone i i'm done i
- 46:53have nothing else to say to it but anyways uh that's the game uh saints are two and three uh they play tampa this sunday in the dome uh we'll see we'll prove
- 47:07preview that game later on this week but yeah uh that's the results monday night football prime time the world got to see this destruction of our team i would love to know your thoughts about the saints going forward do you think the saint season is in free fall do you think we can bounce back this sunday do you think we can get back on track get
- 47:28back to our winning weight so are we are we uh are we are what our record says we are uh sub 500 team
- 47:38I would like to know your thoughts,
- 47:39man.
- 47:39How do you feel about Dennis Allen?
- 47:41How do you feel about Derek Carr?
- 47:42How do you feel about
- 47:43Clint Kubiak now?
- 47:46Do you think he is the second coming of Pete Carmichael or whatever?
- 47:50I think Pete Carmichael called a decent game.
- 47:53I really do.
- 47:54I think he,
- 47:56I mean,
- 47:56you got to think about it.
- 47:58He's trying to make chicken salad out of chicken you know what.
- 48:01He has a depleted offensive line.
- 48:04Taysom Hill didn't play,
- 48:05and apparently that is the.
- 48:07engine that keeps this truck rolling.
- 48:09And so
- 48:10I'm not mad at it.
- 48:12You know,
- 48:13he actually called some decent plays that touchdown to Foster Monroe.
- 48:17That was a fire play.
- 48:19That was an awesome play call.
- 48:20But I would love to know your thoughts.
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- 48:56Network. Everybody,
- 48:57thank you for joining me for this recap and reaction to the Saints'Monday night slacking.
- 49:05Uh,
- 49:06as they lose to the Kansas city chiefs by the score of 26 to 13,
- 49:11putting their record at two and three on a season.
- 49:14So far,
- 49:16don't forget to join me,
- 49:18uh,
- 49:19Friday,
- 49:20this Friday,
- 49:21as we re not recap,
- 49:24uh,
- 49:24you can tell his late.
- 49:25I'm ready to go to bed,
- 49:28but as we preview,
- 49:30uh,
- 49:31the upcoming matchup.
- 49:32against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the Caesar Superdome this Sunday.
- 49:37Oh,
- 49:37man.
- 49:39Man,
- 49:39I hope I can shake it off by then.
- 49:42But I'm pretty sure I will because every day I'm still going to be screaming.
- 49:47Who dat?