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A Change To PSA's Pricing Structure? · Sports Card Clubhouse

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  In our massive country, there are card collectors throughout
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  the land participating in the hobby.
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  There's Mike of Junk Wax Hero and Greg of Midlife Cards, and
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  while distance may separate them, here is where they come
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  together to talk cards. Hey buddy, how are you doing on
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  this fine afternoon? I guess it'll be playing in the
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  morning, but we're recording it in the afternoon.
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  How are you? Man, I'm good.
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  It's, you know, Red Sox Opening Day.
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  The game is on right now. They just took a 1, nothing
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  lead. So I'm very excited.
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  Damn it. Yeah, I'm.
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  Sorry, did I say that out loud? You're.
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  Giants, though. Giants, Yankees, what are you
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  talking about? Giants fan too, aren't you?
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  No, I growing up, so growing up in Northern California, the A's
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  were good and A's fans just rubbed me the wrong way at the
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  time. And so I was a Giants fan by
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  default. I I really liked, you know, the
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  Dave Jarecki thing, and I liked Will Clark.
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  And so I was, yeah, I was rooting for the Giants.
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  We had like partial season tickets as a kid for like 3
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  years with my mom to the, to the Giants.
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  So I rooted for the Giants. And then when the Giants were
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  like winning World Series, when they were like the 6th best team
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  in baseball and they'd like win a World Series.
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  I know Rick's vintage oddball cards just threw his phone
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  across the room, but I'm, I just kind of was just like, these
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  people are annoying. They are so acting like they've
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  been into this for 20 years and they've been.
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  I was going to games and there was 5000 people in this day in
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  Candlestick Park, but so I just hijacked that, but yeah.
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  That's OK. So you're Yankees lot of lot of
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  talk on Sports Center this morning.
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  Aaron Judge, O44 Strikeouts. Sell, sell.
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  Sell to me, I will take your judge.
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  Rookie cards at 50% I judge is fine.
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  Judge one game means that just like when a guy hits four home
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  runs on opening day, it means nothing.
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  I remember I was a kid, it was probably about 198988 and I
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  think it was George Bell hit two or three home runs on opening
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  day. And I was like, oh, and then he
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  had like this thing where like on a couple of his cards it his,
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  it was George with AJ. And I remember seeing and I was
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  like, wait a second, that's an error.
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  And this is back when errors were all the rage.
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  And I'm like, no, that's, that's not an error.
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  You just that's how it was spelled in that.
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  So you Googling to see what year it was that George Bell hit
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  several home runs, multiple home runs.
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  It was two or three on opening day.
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  I think it was 3. No, I was.
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  I was trying to remember if if Tuffy Rhodes had hit his three
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  home runs on opening day or if it was like I remember it was in
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  the first two games but it was opening day and how many home
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  runs did. Although didn't Tuffy Rhodes hit
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  like 700 home runs in Japan? I don't know.
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  I have not. I'm not familiar with Tuffy
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  Rhodes. April 4th, April 4th, 1988.
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  I mean, I called the year and everything.
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  George Bell hit three home runs on opening day.
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  Look at me. I'm like a vault.
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  Baby, that's impressive. Tuffy Rhodes hit 464 home runs
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  in Japan. All time home run leader among
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  four unborn players. Also hit three home runs.
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  I think he was playing for the Cubs.
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  Hit three home runs on Opening Day 1994.
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  Wow. Was it the Cubs?
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  Yeah, it was Cubs. I'm looking at his 1995 season
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  stats in front of me and he batted .098 that year.
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  Is that good? I I don't think that's good, but
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  my guy had four strikeouts in his first four bats last night,
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  so I don't know. OK, so we, we needed to get
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  right after this. Matt from Providence and Jake
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  Wax pack wisdom. First of all, they are fantastic
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  contributors to the sports car clubhouse.
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  We talked about this a week ago and but then Matt had some
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  things to say about your comments and some stuff.
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  What are your thoughts about the shots fired?
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  From Matt, from Providence, Matt, I will admit Matt made a
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  good case for himself being the number one dealer in New England
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  and I had said last week that Matt from Providence is top
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  three, which is very non committal.
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  It's like top three and he was like, I should be #1 he's very
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  clear. And he also, he guessed he, he
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  and Jake guessed my other top 2. Actually one of them named
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  somebody I'd never heard of before.
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  But the other would be PB Collectors Paul Borges, who is
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  awesome. And the other one is, oh, and
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  they also guessed Don Hans. I will never have never bought a
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  card from Don Hans because his cards are way out of my league.
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  He he sells a lot of 191415 cracker Jack cards.
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  Don hunts amazing display every time but they're way out of my
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  league so I wouldn't put him as a top dealer.
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  The other one is Ron from Don's sports card Center in Portland.
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  ME and Matt made the point that you can't be called a dealer if
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  you own a card shop, which I found interesting.
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  With that loophole, Matt immediately becomes number one
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  in New England because. Oh.
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  Paul Borges and Ron both have their own card shops.
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  So are we now at this moment declaring Matt from Providence
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  the number one dealer in all of New England?
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  Well here's the thing. I texted him.
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  I said I'm enjoying the hit list.
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  You and Paul Borges are my 2 favorites.
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  Don's is there too, but they're a shop because there's this kind
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  of this distinction between Paul and Don Sports Card Center
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  because Paul does a lot more card shows and is much more of a
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  show guy than a shop guy. And I said, but so is PB.
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  And so I, you know, I was trying to compliment Matt.
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  His response was just to heart the the my text.
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  No, no, nothing else. He's pissed very it's like
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  you're saying to my dad something and he just responds
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  back with a thumbs up. You know, it's very passive
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  aggressive. Well, I got to share something,
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  but first I do want to say, you know, Matt is, you know,
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  arguably and definitely it sounds like now the top dealer
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  in New England. But if you were going to sell
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  your collection and you weren't going to sell it to someone in
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  New England, England, Mike, who would you sell it to?
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  You know, I would go through Chris Sewell, baseball card
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  collector, investor, dealer, in that order.
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  Chris actually called me and he texted me yesterday and said,
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  hey, how far from Augusta, ME are you?
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  And I said I'm like 25 or 30 minutes away.
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  And he said I might have a a little bit of a journey for you.
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  He was. There's a guy in Augusta, ME,
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  the capital of Maine. Many people think it's Portland,
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  but it's not. Was selling Chris some cards And
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  Chris wasn't sure he was comfortable mailing them.
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  And so he he asked me if I would drive up to Augusta.
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  And I was like, yeah, that sounds awesome.
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  Go and meet a seller of cards to Chris and then ship them to
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  Chris. And I was actually thinking, why
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  don't I drive down to the, you know, Baltimore area?
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  I think he lives near Baltimore and deliver them to Chris.
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  How much fun would that be? But yes, Chris is trusted from
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  Maine to Hawaii with collections.
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  I don't know about Hawaii, but gives you a very transparent,
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  amazing deal. Chris Sewell at his e-mail is
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  sewellsportscards@gmail.com. I see he has updated his e-mail
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  address on his website now. Yeah.
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  He must be listening to surface issues.
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  He. Is@gmail.com e-mail him if you
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  want to sell part or all of your collection.
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  He's the best. And I've been listening, in
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  fact, one of the topics I had set for today potentially to
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  talk about is I was listening to collector investor podcasts on
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  the way home today. And but I don't want to talk
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  about what they were talking about yet because if it becomes
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  something that we end up getting into, I want to kind of save for
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  that. But they they do a great job.
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  Again, I had Jeremy the Texas Snowman on my channel the other
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  day that we had a great discussion.
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  It was last week, I think, super fun.
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  The two of them are great. But yes, Chris Sewell.
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  Chris Sewell is the guy that is everywhere if you want to sell
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  your collection. Now I do want to point out also
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  on the screen, in addition to in the partner section, we have
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  Chris Sewell here and you could get to his website there.
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  But there's a new section on the website that our our boy Adam of
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  Splendid Sports put together, which is the contributors
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  section. And the contributors section has
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  contributors to the sports card clubhouse who aren't founding
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  members but are important pieces of the team.
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  Here we've got Dylan Double D vintage baseball cards and a
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  link to his YouTube channel. We got Jake Wax pack Wisdom, a
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  link to his Instagram and YouTube channel.
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  We've got Matt from Providence and a link to his Instagram on
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  there. Then down at the bottom we've
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  got Southern collector Tony and a link to his Instagram and
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  YouTube. And then we've got the Mike
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  Petty Matt from Providence. Take note that you are higher on
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  the page than Tony and Mike Petty, for whatever that's
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  worth. I do want to ask you, why do you
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  think Dylan is all alone at the top?
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  What is your thought on that? Clearly Adam Bias.
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  There is a clear East Coast Adam Bias here where he is putting
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  his pal Double D Dylan at the top of the page.
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  No, it's because Dylan has been doing this with Adam for six
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  months. Four months, However long it's
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  been, they've been doing. Turn back the clock here on at
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  the clubhouse and he belongs at the top.
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  Well, that might be that. He was the first contributor and
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  so he's first there and then they have the next wave and then
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  we have the next way. That's possible.
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  I was thinking, see, in cheerleading, I hear that they
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  have Flyers. A flyer is a cheerleader who
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  gets thrown up into the air and they do their leg kicks and
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  things and then they get caught and the Flyers are always the
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  the smallest, the littlest ones. So when I saw this, I was like,
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  well, of course he's the top of the pyramid.
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  Well, well, I mean, come on, you could fit that guy in your
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  pocket. We love him.
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  We do. He had some really hot takes
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  about autographs on their. Last episode, boy.
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  And then DJ Tony hit back. Did you see that?
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  I haven't. Oh boy.
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  What happened? Dylan got eaten alive in the
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  comments. Did he?
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  I didn't see that. I can try to find it here real
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  quick. But so so he talked about how
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  you describe, as I'm looking for this, you describe what Dylan
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  said in the episode and why he got eaten alive.
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  He said the one that really stands out for me is that he,
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  well, Dylan is very opinionated. And he says, well, he'll
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  occasionally say in my opinion, but he says it's so loud, not
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  loudly, but like openly. Like his opinion is fact, even
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  though he's saying that's my opinion.
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  And it's great for TV. It's, you know, it's great for
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  YouTube because you want to hear people take big stances on
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  things. But he was talking about
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  autographs that he really strongly dislikes.
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  Yeah. All right.
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  This is the one I was going to say.
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  Yes. So I'm going to play this clip.
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  OK, it's it's only about a minute, but we can stop and hit
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  pause if you want. But but check this out.
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  This is what Dylan is saying. And then watch the response
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  ready. Yeah, Nope.
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  No sound. You can't hear it.
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  No. That's a bummer, I can hear it.
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  He says. Dylan says I would never take
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  put a a a Sharpie autograph on a 1967 Venezuela retarado Sandy
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  Koufax. It looks like garbage, he said.
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  And TJ is online happens to have that very card autographed with
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  A and it's beautiful. And I have to say, Dylan, you're
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  wrong here, buddy, that this card with this autograph is
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  stunning. Yeah, so.
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  So Tony, TJ is online, showed the clip in a short on his
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  channel. TJ is online and then he's got a
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  video of the Sandy Koufax boy. Yeah, I mean, it was.
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  It was, I mean, oh, I'm sure it's all in good fun.
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  I think I don't know, but I, I hear what he's saying where I I
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  understand where he's coming from about some people are just
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  trying to do value adds and say, oh, here's his card.
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  If I get it signed, you know, on this guy's, you know, deathbed,
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  then it'll make the value go way up.
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  And what Dylan I think is trying to say is some cards are
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  gorgeous just the way they are. Like instead of trying to do a
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  value add later in life. It it's one of the reasons why a
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  lot of these guys say like the ballpoint pens on the cards they
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  like more. It's because the ballpoint pens
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  are most likely before it became a fad to get card signed 'cause
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  they cause the the sharpies are easier to see and so it's more
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  playing days before it became cool.
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  Anyway, OK, enough of the drama. I do have a topic though, and I
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  was thinking about making a whole video about this.
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  So I'll give you I'll give you 2 choices.
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  We could either talk about something with Beckett's GM, OK,
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  the Beckett, the new Beckett GM, or we could talk about, let's
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  talk about that. I'm going to talk about that.
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  So if you are watching a lot of calm content, and again, I don't
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  do a lot of reaction content, that's not my thing, but Jeff
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  Wilson had this is I don't know what this is is this is the
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  thumbnail. Maybe he did a video where he
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  interviewed the new Beckett GM. OK, so Colin, Yep, Colin Hudson
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  is his name. OK.
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  He came from PSA. He's worked for PSA and they're
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  they're acquisitions for a while.
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  He is now the GM of Beckett. It's interesting that you knew
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  his name. Now let me ask.
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  Well, I don't want to get ahead of myself.
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  Well. Colin.
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  Colin is a young young man's name, right?
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  Like my cousin is 35 years old and his name is Colin and it
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  just feels like is he old enough to be the GM of Beckett?
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  I haven't. Oh I've see.
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  I've never seen the guy before. I didn't.
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  I didn't even know this video existed.
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  He looks a little what does he look like?
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  40 ish maybe? Yeah, he's looks mid 40s forty
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  to 45. Yeah.
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  So OK, so I'm going to put together and give you a few
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  pieces of the puzzle and then I'm going to give you my take
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  away. So I was driving home, I think
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  it was yesterday. And you know how when you're
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  playing something and automatically feeds into the
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  next video, and my video ended as I was driving, it
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  automatically plays into this. And I was like, oh, you know,
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  this is kind of interesting. I actually, to be totally honest
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  with you, I like Jeff Wilson's The Jeff Wilson Show way more
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  than his channel. He shares some thoughts.
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  He does lots of interviews, and I find them interesting because
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  I like hearing from industry people and because of who he is,
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  you get to hear from some industry people that I don't
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  have access to. And so he's interviewing this,
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  this Colin Hudson guy. And I'm like, man, I've heard
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  this guy before. This isn't the first time I've
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  heard him. And then I remembered that Neo
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  did an interview with him about a month ago, so right around the
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  time he was named GM or after he'd kind of gotten his into
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  his, you know, his position a little bit.
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  Neo had him on and did a long interview with him.
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  And then Jeff had an interview, even though in Jeff's
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  description it does say that they had an exclusive interview
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  with the guy who had already been interviewed by Neo.
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  But that's another thing. And, and I was like, oh, this is
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  interesting. You know, Mike's buddy Jeff is
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  talking with the Beckett, the Beckett's GM Neo has talked to
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  the Beckett GM. And and then last night I was
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  on, I was on my walk and I was listening to off centered the
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  guy, the the Dustin Flippin, Steve Neo and Ham, Michael Ham.
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  They do their live stream like every other week or something.
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  And they were talking about, at one point Neo had said something
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  about SGC and what is their turn around time now?
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  It's, it's gotten really long, right?
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  And so I was listening as I was walking.
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  So I pulled my phone out of my pocket and I, I put into the
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  chat, yeah, I, I submitted on December 27th.
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  My, my grades mailed back on March 10th or whatever it was.
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  And, and they were like, yeah, they're, they're on life
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  support. And then I thought to myself,
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  wait a second, I've now seen two interviews with the Beckett GM2
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  in the last month, and SGC went from 5 to 10 days to now they're
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  what, 40 to 50 or whatever they're saying?
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  Let me ask you this, Mike, who is the SGCGM?
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  Because you knew the name of the Beckett GM, who is the GM of SGC
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  right now. I would guess that there is not
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  AGM for SGC. Just a wild guess.
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  They it's like 3 graders, 1 customer support person.
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  My guess is that there is not AGM because it's not a business
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  that is big enough for AGM and that they do not care to grow in
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  my opinion. And Beckett, clearly they want
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  Beckett to grow and so they've assigned AGM to it.
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  Do you know is there? Is there an answer to this?
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  I don't know. I don't know if there's an
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  answer, but what where it took my head as, as I was piercing
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  this together between hearing them talk about STC and, and
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  how, you know, all this stuff and is, they're clearly trying
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  to position Beckett as a, a, a viable company.
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  He was talking in the interview about a lot of things that
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  they're doing, a lot of investments they're making right
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  now into expanding the production and, and a lot of
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  artistic changes to the flip and the logo and synchronizing
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  things and, and getting more technology integrations like PSA
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  has. Some of the ones that PSA has
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  are going to expand over to Beckett.
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  I haven't heard anything like that about SGC.
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  And when Beckett was first purchased by collectors not that
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  long ago, the immediate response everybody said was, and probably
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  myself included is oh, well, they're going to kill them off
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  now just like they killed off SGC.
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  But that's not what's happening. What?
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  What has happened? There's clearly a difference
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  between what is happening with Beckett since they were
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  purchased and what is happening with SGC.
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  They are trying to wean us away from SGC by just slowly taking
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  it from this powerhouse into nothing that you never hear
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  about. It gets longer, it gets more
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  expensive there. You don't ever hear about them.
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  Whereas Beckett, they're putting like a face behind it.
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  This is a well spoken guy. He's got the Beckett gear on.
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  It's clearly a different situation, yes.
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  Absolutely. And, you know, I think that
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  Beckett just today or yesterday announced the closure of their
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  magazine and comic book grading organization, which, wow, they,
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  they still had that. I, I, I have graded 2
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  autographed magazines, not the magazines themselves, just
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  authenticated the autographs. But it's, you know, I think that
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  they're, I would assume because that's probably not a very
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  popular thing for them anymore, that they shut that down to move
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  those people that move those resources towards trading card
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  grading. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense.
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  I mean, Trading Guard grading Plus it seems like they want, if
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  you're going to be grading, if you're going to be grading
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  magazines and programs and stuff, it it clearly seems like
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  they're in comics. They're trying to feed all of
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  that to the PSA label. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Let me ask you this because, you
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  know, you and I both collect video games.
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  I have a few right here behind me and I was looking last night
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  because they, the collectors purchased WADA a few years ago,
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  which was a grading company and then CGC is sort of like been
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  the powerhouse video game grader for a while and then WADA was
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  kind of a competitor. PSA about WADA, they recently
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  rebranded that about three months ago from WADA to PSA.
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  And I was looking up some graded video games last night and there
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  are a lot. Suddenly there are a lot of
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  graded video games with PSA holders, and by PSA branding it
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  feels like they want everything to be PSA.
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  Except it seems like they're trying to actually reestablish
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  Beckett grading for cards. Yes, I agree.
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  And I, we talked about this back November, December.
• 24:18
  I still think that they're going to do a vintage SGC and then
• 24:23
  like a junk wax to 2000 tens Beckett type of thing and then
• 24:30
  ultra modern and you know, very close to ultra modern PSA type
• 24:35
  of split. Whether they say it or not,
• 24:39
  Beckett is well known for their 90s grades in the early 2000s.
• 24:45
  And so it'll be interesting to see when they when they really
• 24:48
  start coming out with whatever they're going to do with
• 24:50
  Beckett, where they land. It see, it seems interesting and
• 24:55
  I I think that I agree with a lot of that.
• 25:00
  I think PSA will you'll probably be able to get everything
• 25:04
  graded. PSA forever put the Beckett
• 25:08
  having sort of like its emphasis and SGC.
• 25:13
  It feels to me like I'm kind of surprised that they haven't set
• 25:18
  an era date deadline on like, you know, SGC is 1980 and before
• 25:26
  like like that. I mean, because when you when
• 25:29
  you're training people, if you have to train them to grade
• 25:32
  ultra modern, you have to train them to grade patch cards.
• 25:34
  You have to train them to do, you know, thicker cards and
• 25:38
  refractor cards and all this sort of stuff.
• 25:40
  If SGC is not really grading that anymore, why not just set
• 25:46
  the cap and just say we'll reholder?
• 25:48
  If a card's already in a holder, we'll reholder it, but we're no
• 25:52
  longer going to grade after 1980 since that's clearly what they
• 25:55
  want to do. It seems like that would at
• 25:58
  least increase efficiencies. I agree.
• 26:01
  Why haven't they done that yet? They're more focused on Beckett.
• 26:08
  I, I, I really don't know. I think that they're happy to
• 26:11
  just collect people's money and continue to they're, it's
• 26:14
  probably like, I don't know, 3% oh, what is happening.
• 26:21
  I you keep talking, I don't want to interrupt you.
• 26:23
  I keep interrupting you because I get excited.
• 26:25
  So go ahead. I'm.
• 26:25
  Guessing the percent of and I think you can get this through
• 26:29
  gem rate, the percent of cards that SGC is grading that's post
• 26:34
  1980 is probably pretty darn low.
• 26:37
  And so it's it's a small problem for them.
• 26:41
  Yeah, yeah, I I think it is a small problem, but I would just
• 26:45
  say eliminate that from having to even deal with researching
• 26:49
  that anymore. But OK, so I, I told you when
• 26:53
  before we before we started recording that I had a topic
• 26:56
  idea for this episode and I, I knew I wouldn't forget it.
• 27:02
  So I didn't need to write it down.
• 27:04
  And then it was gone. Even though at the beginning of
• 27:07
  this episode I said that I was a vault because I remember that
• 27:10
  George Bell hit three home runs on opening day in 1988.
• 27:13
  But that happened 35 years ago, not 35 minutes ago.
• 27:16
  That's a good point. OK, So one of the things in this
• 27:20
  episode when Jeff is interviewing this call in guy is
• 27:25
  that they want to have window. They're talking, they're
• 27:28
  exploring the idea of having windows of you can submit right
• 27:34
  now your card for regular service grading.
• 27:37
  And then when they get backed up, they just, they just turn it
• 27:42
  off. You can't submit at this time.
• 27:44
  Like you, you can only submit when it's available.
• 27:48
  And when it's not available, they close it to get caught up
• 27:52
  so that they can start hitting regularly and routinely hitting
• 27:56
  their turn around times. Because what happens is they say
• 27:58
  it's going to be 30 days and then they get a million cards
• 28:02
  overnight because you know, the new tops Chrome basketball comes
• 28:05
  out and they're like, whoa, we can't do this in 30 days because
• 28:08
  we just got overflown. So he's saying one thing they're
• 28:11
  thinking about doing is having a window and and when you go to
• 28:15
  submit, it has to be available for submission at that time.
• 28:18
  And that that way they can turn the valve on and off based on
• 28:22
  their backup. So here was my thought.
• 28:26
  This is my question. I wanted to float to you hotels
• 28:32
  and airlines, they do fluid pricing.
• 28:37
  They have when it's a busy time. They raised up with there's not
• 28:42
  a lot of seats left on the plane.
• 28:44
  The price goes up, up, up, up. The closer you get to the flight
• 28:47
  and there's a bunch of empty seats.
• 28:49
  The price goes down, down, down at at the hotels when when they
• 28:53
  see, Oh my gosh, everybody's booking up because it's the
• 28:55
  Strongsville show and they start getting full.
• 28:57
  They raise the price. It's a fluid pricing structure
• 29:00
  and the way that they can increase and decrease the demand
• 29:06
  is by changing the price, right? My question is, would that work
• 29:13
  or should they consider doing that for card grading?
• 29:18
  If PSA is slammed and they just go fine, you can do it.
• 29:22
  But they just and and literally like every day, every minute I
• 29:26
  could be sitting there and the price change based on what's
• 29:30
  happening to the amount of submissions at that point in
• 29:33
  time. Is that a crazy idea or is that
• 29:37
  got some legs? Is that something they would
• 29:39
  consider? What do you think?
• 29:41
  I think it's brilliant. I think they should hire you and
• 29:44
  pay you $1,000,000 a year for this idea.
• 29:47
  The see, they already try to do this like this when they, when
• 29:52
  PSA raised their prices a month or two ago, they said, well, the
• 29:58
  demand's too high, so we need to raise our prices and but they
• 30:01
  wait so long, they wait until that turn around time.
• 30:05
  But you're right, they should have dynamic surge pricing like
• 30:09
  Uber has, where as they've as their backlog, not the, I guess
• 30:16
  it would be their backlog. So I've talked about this a
• 30:18
  little bit. PSA, should I assume they have
• 30:22
  an analytics, a data analytics group that builds dashboards
• 30:26
  that show the entire pipeline of carts.
• 30:30
  So how many are currently being graded, how many are in QA, how
• 30:36
  many are in identification, How many are sitting on the things
• 30:40
  Outback that have been delivered, How many have been
• 30:43
  submitted and haven't been received yet and they could use
• 30:47
  that data. This is what I do in my job to
• 30:51
  say, OK, we have our demand is really low, let's reduce prices
• 30:54
  down to $16 a card. OOP demand just skyrocketed.
• 30:58
  We're going to go up to $22.00 per card and then they could
• 31:01
  have that dynamic pricing. You've talked me into it.
• 31:04
  Let's do it. Let's go to PSA right now and
• 31:07
  tell them you do this. Yeah.
• 31:10
  And I want to say this right now that this is my idea.
• 31:15
  So if they steal this idea, it is clearly fact that they've
• 31:21
  stolen it. But yes, like when I Uber, So if
• 31:24
  I like five years ago, I stayed at Disneyland, like three blocks
• 31:28
  from Disneyland, right? And when we went to get an Uber
• 31:32
  20 minutes before the gates opened, it was like 20 bucks to
• 31:35
  go 3, three blocks. But at 1:00 PM that day it was
• 31:41
  like 5 bucks. Turn this have it.
• 31:46
  Like I should be able to go to PSA right now and see what the
• 31:49
  price is at this exact moment and it just constantly be
• 31:53
  changing. I love this idea I.
• 31:56
  Still will never. And I feel so good about that.
• 31:59
  I love that. I'm so excited that you like it.
• 32:04
  I feel, I, I feel, I feel so proud right now.
• 32:07
  I feel like I came home and I won the spelling bee and you're
• 32:12
  hanging up my certificate on the refrigerator and I'm just
• 32:16
  beating my chest. Here's the problem right?
• 32:19
  We now, because this is such a great idea, we now have to title
• 32:23
  this episode. Should PSA use dynamic surge
• 32:27
  pricing or something like that? And then people are going to get
• 32:29
  so mad that we didn't get there until we were 30 minutes in, but
• 32:33
  you didn't remember it until we were 28 minutes in, so.
• 32:36
  Or what we could do is we could say the future of PSA pricing or
• 32:41
  PSA is moving to dynamic pricing.
• 32:45
  Just kidding. Greg is throwing the idea out
• 32:49
  there. He is available.
• 32:50
  Although I do have to say before PSA sends me their offer, I do
• 32:55
  have to follow up on last week I had the interview for the new
• 32:59
  position. I was offered the position to
• 33:03
  now be a, I've been a high school 9th through 12th grade
• 33:09
  business, finance and computer technology teacher for the last
• 33:16
  20-3 years. And I accepted the offer to
• 33:21
  become a middle school history teacher.
• 33:25
  And I got to be, Yeah, I and I got to be honest with you, one
• 33:28
  of the things I'm most excited about is I've already looked at
• 33:32
  some of the curriculum as it comes up in one of the units is
• 33:35
  trading cards. It's political.
• 33:38
  I swear to you, it comes up, it's political trading cards and
• 33:42
  how that is used as a form of advertising during some
• 33:45
  presidential elections in the early 1900s.
• 33:48
  And I'm like, dude, I can bring in like some Teddy Roosevelt
• 33:52
  cards and some George Washington cards and some Abe Lincoln cards
• 33:56
  and be like, look, this is what they actually looked like.
• 33:59
  I was so pumped. That's awesome.
• 34:02
  Are you nervous? Yeah, well.
• 34:07
  I don't like change and I I'm very excited about.
• 34:13
  I have a couple of friends that work at the school.
• 34:16
  I'm excited to see them more often.
• 34:19
  I'm excited to to service a new, younger audience and try to be
• 34:28
  able to be sillier and use some of the skills I've acquired.
• 34:34
  But it's, it's like, it, it, it, it's like Tom Hanks after being
• 34:40
  in Philadelphia and then he's going to be Forrest Gump.
• 34:45
  And it's like you're you're playing a different role and
• 34:48
  it's kind of exciting to try to fill the needs to be successful
• 34:54
  at that. So my brain is actively already
• 34:59
  processing things I'm going to do.
• 35:02
  And that's good for me. It's given me some excitement.
• 35:04
  So I'm I'm excited. And meanwhile, you're just his
• 35:07
  character. From big.
• 35:11
  You know, probably so. Probably so.
• 35:14
  Well, it was three years in a row he had Forrest Gump,
• 35:17
  Philadelphia and Apollo. Were those the three years in a
• 35:20
  row where he was? He won twice.
• 35:23
  He was also Woody. From Toy Story right around that
• 35:25
  time too. And he was castaway.
• 35:28
  Right around that time, I mean, he was just and and not before,
• 35:32
  not long before that, he was really good in the wonders.
• 35:35
  Remember that one? That thing you do, that thing
• 35:38
  you do, the band was. Called the Wonders.
• 35:41
  He was really good in that. That guy's really good man.
• 35:44
  Yeah, his 90s. Was insane.
• 35:47
  Oh, I mean, you know. Joe versus the volcano, The
• 35:53
  burbs. I was kidding.
• 35:54
  About that one. But but Meg Ryan.
• 35:57
  Meg Ryan. Oh, yeah.
• 35:58
  Meg Ryan. I was a big Meg Ryan.
• 36:01
  You don't like Meg Ryan. I know.
• 36:05
  I know who your girl is. Who?
• 36:08
  It's Sydney Sweeney. Who?
• 36:13
  Who? Wouldn't I'm I'm not
• 36:16
  complaining. Back in those days, I.
• 36:19
  Was obsessed with Weird Science the TV show Oh do you remember?
• 36:24
  This. No the.
• 36:26
  The character. Lisa or I don't remember.
• 36:30
  Yeah, you're gonna have to look her up.
• 36:32
  Weird science. I love that show.
• 36:36
  I I really liked Chet the character in the TV show a lot
• 36:40
  more than I liked. I'm trying to think of who the
• 36:42
  guy was who played Chet in the movie.
• 36:45
  Somebody will he became much more famous.
• 36:48
  But anyway, in the in the TV show.
• 36:51
  Not the movie, The TV show. The the.
• 36:55
  The actress. Weird science, this girl.
• 37:00
  Yes. Yes.
• 37:02
  What's your name? You got to know her name, right?
• 37:06
  I don't she has a name. You know.
• 37:12
  Yeah, that was my. That was my.
• 37:14
  Favorite in the 90s? Really.
• 37:17
  That's good. That's good to know.
• 37:20
  This gal stars Vanessa Angel. That's that's right, yes.
• 37:27
  Oh, OK. Yeah.
• 37:33
  So dynamic pricing. Is the special sports card.
• 37:41
  Clubhouse surge. Pricing surge, not dynamic.
• 37:44
  Not OK, surge pricing, but this is our intellectual property.
• 37:51
  We have come up with this concept for specifically for
• 37:56
  grading companies. Yeah, we've just copyrighted.
• 37:59
  This. Yeah, I mean, I did it.
• 38:02
  Yeah. Yep, it's.
• 38:04
  I I just got off the the phone with my attorney and the
• 38:09
  paperwork has been filed. So I mean, if they want to hire
• 38:14
  us and utilize our intellectual property, you know, as long as
• 38:19
  you can out pay a middle school history teacher in Sacramento,
• 38:23
  CA, we're good dude. We are good.
• 38:28
  All right, Well, anything else? I, I mean, I didn't even get to
• 38:31
  my other topic. Should I tease it for next time
• 38:33
  or should I tease it? Tease it.
• 38:36
  So our buddies Chris and Jeremy over on Collector Investor
• 38:41
  Podcast, they were doing their question of the week debate,
• 38:46
  which was who are the top five players that they would invest
• 38:52
  in for like a 10 year stretch? OK, and I will say this, Jeremy
• 38:59
  went first and his first pick for who he would invest in for
• 39:04
  the next 10 years, player he would invest in for the next 10
• 39:07
  years was Michael Jordan. Chris had this, had his first
• 39:11
  pick and he went with Lionel Messi as his first pick.
• 39:16
  Then he went back to Jeremy and his second pick was Mickey
• 39:19
  Mantle and then it went back to Chris and Chris went with Barry
• 39:26
  Bonds. So let me ask you, let me ask
• 39:31
  you this through two rounds cause Theo's the judge.
• 39:35
  I haven't finished the episode. I'm going to finish it on my
• 39:37
  walk tonight. So I don't know how it turns
• 39:39
  out. But Theo is the judge.
• 39:41
  They joked about, well they should have picked you know, you
• 39:45
  know, Willie Stargell and and Roberto Clemente is your top 2
• 39:48
  picks 'cause then Theo would pick them as the winner through
• 39:52
  2 rounds. Who do you side with through two
• 39:57
  rounds, Chris? Chris, for sure.
• 40:02
  The Barry Bonds 1 is really risky and I like it.
• 40:06
  I I don't know anything about soccer either.
• 40:08
  I'd probably go with Lamine Lamal, Yamin Lamine Yamal.
• 40:13
  Easy to say. Oh, did I just blow up my whole
• 40:16
  draft strategy? Now I have to go first because
• 40:18
  I've already given you my first pick.
• 40:21
  But yeah, I mean, I would go, I would go with Chris in this this
• 40:25
  case because it's more fun. I I mean.
• 40:32
  What Jeremy did is he said my first pick for an investment is
• 40:36
  gold. My second pick is silver.
• 40:38
  He, he went very, very conservative, but slow, steady
• 40:44
  growth. What Jeremy did or what Chris
• 40:47
  did is he kind of went a little outside the box and said, I want
• 40:51
  something that hasn't gone nuts yet, but I think is going to go
• 40:55
  nuts. And I think it's going to go
• 40:57
  nuts because of this and this. So two different strategies
• 41:02
  which show a lot about their personalities, quite frankly.
• 41:06
  Yeah, I'd love to see their. Portfolios.
• 41:08
  Yeah, Yeah, seriously. And that was what they basically
• 41:11
  were saying is they each got to pick five players for their
• 41:15
  portfolio. And they did also preface it
• 41:18
  with it. Does it have to be a player?
• 41:20
  Because Jeremy admitted that if it could be a person, 5 people
• 41:26
  instead of five players, that in his top five, he would have
• 41:30
  drafted Abraham Lincoln, which I thought was very interesting and
• 41:33
  I actually agree with. So I don't know how it plays
• 41:37
  out. I will find out.
• 41:38
  If you haven't watched it yet again, Collector investor
• 41:42
  podcast again, you know, obviously our our good friend
• 41:47
  Chris Sewell, sponsor of the channel and episode.
• 41:52
  We're always going to pick him as our who we agree with most,
• 41:56
  yes. All right, buddy, Anything else?
• 41:59
  Before we shove off, I think I think that's it.
• 42:03
  OK, this was fun this. Was a fun one.
• 42:05
  It's always fun, especially as the red.
• 42:07
  Sox take a three nothing lead in the length inning, yes.
• 42:11
  Is Jon Lester coming in now? Jon Lester.
• 42:17
  Man, I just got his rookie refractor Otto.
• 42:21
  Oh, congratulations. What'd you do after you spent
• 42:24
  those 12 dollars? That guy, the look he would give
• 42:30
  when he would turn, I was just like, you don't have to act and
• 42:33
  pitch, just pitch. Great, great pick off move.
• 42:37
  He and Andy Pettitte. Yeah.
• 42:39
  Pettit. Well, Pettit was.
• 42:40
  Really a Bock every single time. They just didn't call him.
• 42:43
  Didn't Lester get to a point though, where?
• 42:45
  He just wouldn't throw over. I'm trying to remember.
• 42:48
  I think he he got the yips. He had a little Chuck Knobloch
• 42:52
  thing. I think it was Lester who just
• 42:55
  stopped throwing over. And then like at one point he
• 42:57
  like rolled the ball. This is all towards the end of
• 43:00
  his Red Sox time. When I wasn't watching as much
• 43:02
  'cause I didn't have cable, so I'm.
• 43:05
  Somebody in comments? Will tell me how wrong I am
• 43:08
  because we know that our commenters love to tell us how
• 43:10
  wrong we are. I I do I do have to say 1.
• 43:13
  Quick little odd fact, so that you maybe remember hearing about
• 43:18
  the game where Chuck Knobloch had like 3 errors in like an
• 43:22
  inning. It was in a game or in an inning
• 43:24
  and one of the throws went into the stands.
• 43:27
  OK, Yep. Oh, man, I, I, I have, I have 8
• 43:33
  stories converging at once. I believe, believe it or not, I
• 43:38
  believe that the ball that went into the stands.
• 43:41
  I might be wrong here, but I'm, I think I'm right.
• 43:43
  I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna Fact Check this.
• 43:46
  The ball that went into the stands, I think it hit Keith
• 43:50
  Olbermann's mom. That sounds right.
• 43:53
  OK, by the way that. Game.
• 43:57
  I was at that game and, and the, the headline on the Backpage of
• 44:05
  the newspaper the next day when we were in New York.
• 44:08
  We're walking by a newsstand on the, on the street, you know, on
• 44:11
  the, on the sidewalk there. And it said yanked, 'cause they
• 44:15
  pulled, they pulled Knoblock in the middle of the inning, I
• 44:18
  believe it was. And the headline said yanked and
• 44:23
  it was just a picture of Knoblock.
• 44:25
  Marie Olbermann. That's you got hit, right?
• 44:30
  I'm telling. You.
• 44:31
  It's a vault, baby. Just don't ask me about what I
• 44:34
  was talking to somebody about an hour ago.
• 44:37
  But if it was 30 years ago, I got you, dude.
• 44:43
  All right, that's it. 44 minutes.
• 44:45
  My gosh, if everybody is checked out by now and they missed some
• 44:48
  good stuff, if they checked out early, they missed some good
• 44:50
  stuff. The second-half, the second-half
• 44:53
  was greater than the first half. Today it was we should.
• 44:57
  We should edit this and and move the second-half to the
• 44:59
  beginning. No, that's way too much work at
• 45:01
  this point. It is what it is.
• 45:04
  You get what you get, people. All right, off we go.
• 45:08
  See you in a week.