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Jeff Nyquist: Putin is Dangerously Close to Using Nukes (And He’s Not Bluffing) · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So the situation with Russia and Ukraine is intensifying with the potential for nuclear weapons now on the table. Russia has also started a mobilization of troops calling in approximately 300,000 men to fight, and they're just getting started. So are we inching closer to World War three?
• 0:23
  Will Putin actually use nuclear force in Ukraine? And if he does, how's the West gonna respond? And where's China in all this? Are they still one clenched fist with Russia with the ultimate goal of being an invasion of America? Joining me today is Jeff Jeff Nyquist, one of the world's leading experts on communism and geopolitics to get to the bottom of all these questions and more.
• 0:47
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• 1:17
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• 1:36
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• 2:10
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• 3:31
  If you already know someone that sells gold and silver, great. All I'm saying is please act now and protect your wealth before it's too late. So folks, I am it's always a mixed feeling of having Jeff Nyquist on because I love talking to him and it's excellent information that he presents, but it's usually a little bit heavy with what we're facing in the world. But Jeff, in my research and my understanding, and I've got a lot of his books I've read, his blog is fantastic, he is one of the most on point people when it comes to geopolitics, and especially with understanding how communism is shifting the global chessboard. He's been studying this for forty years.
• 4:09
  He's authored many, many books. He has a prolific blog. And so I'm very pleased to have Jeff on my shows. Let's go ahead and welcome Jeff to Man in America.
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Seth.
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: Jeff, thank you so much for coming on. So, Jeff, we were talking before the show and you had shared with me that you had some new intel that came in just this morning that had really worried you about what is potentially happening next with Russia and probably with China. So do you just go ahead and dive right into this discussion that we're having?
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing that, at first, when I heard, you know, night before last at around six, the news started coming in. Putin was gonna make a speech. They were gonna do mobilization. And people were thinking, oh my gosh.
• 4:54
  He's gonna mobilize 2,000,000 men. And then the speech comes in, I don't know, three, four in the morning in our time, eastern time. And it's, he's only gonna mobilize 300,000. And I thought, oh, okay. That's not so bad.
• 5:08
  But then this morning, what I'm hearing is that it's a million new troops, a million conscripts added on to that 300,000. And it's also some of these conscripts are being told or some of these new people are being told, oh, no. You're you're gonna be fighting. You're going into a fight, but it's not gonna be Ukraine. And then you've got Sergei Lavrov, the foreign minister of Russia saying, oh, the war against NATO is going to be really rough.
• 5:41
  Right? It's very disturbing information out of Russia. And some of the, Russian people that that viewed Putin's speech now, it it reads differently in English in the translation. It reads like, you know, I'm not bluffing this time. Right?
• 5:58
  It's like, it almost it sounds kind of silly, ridiculous, but not to the Russian ear. What what what's a lot of Russians are hearing is, oh my gosh. He's gonna use nukes. They're going to nukes. This is gonna be World War three.
• 6:14
  So it's very interesting. It's a nuance of language, the the cultural gap between us and Russia. And I I have to take that very seriously, especially when we heard from mister Wang of Luda Media, fifty seven minute tape from Guangdong that China, the central committee gave a mobilization order for war against America and, Taiwan and so on in April. And that they've been preparing since they organized in early May to do this mobilization, to mobilize ships, to prepare RORO ships, to carry armored fighting vehicles and so on and also to move their DF 41 strategic missiles around to hide them, to move them as if they're going to launch missile strikes. And Mr.
• 7:04
  Wang told me they're going to attack the First Island Chain, Second Island Chain, beyond. They're going to blockade Taiwan. And you see they they put their sort of besieging Taiwan. They didn't actually do a blockade. They tried to intimidate everybody.
• 7:17
  People weren't intimidated, but, they've got all the mechanisms ready. Everything's in motion ready to just simply it's like putting I put my hands around your throat, but I'm not squeezing yet. Very interesting. And it's the fact now that Russia and China are going together near the same time. This is very alarming, and one Russian official said, well, if NATO doesn't mobilize now, they're dead.
• 7:42
  And, of course, NATO's not gonna I mean, predictably, they're not gonna mobilize because they see this as just a mobilization for the Ukraine war that Russia's losing. They don't see that there's something more because for some reason, many of the experts I talked to think that Russia is out of equipment. They are out of men. They couldn't if they tried to raise 1,300,000 men, they'd have 3,000 show up. You know, that's the kind of thing that our experts believe.
• 8:07
  I hope they're right. But this looks, you know, Russia is a gigantic military arsenal, much of it left over the Cold War. What have they been building in their factories these last fifteen years? We know they built the factories to produce new weapons. We haven't even seen the new weapons yet.
• 8:25
  So was the whole Ukraine operation just a a prelude, a way to make a justification, a testing of how we would react, and then they would know what to do next? I I don't know. But it it's, you know, it's like Putin doesn't have a reverse gear. Right? There's no okay.
• 8:46
  We want peace now. Let we've had enough of this. No. It gets now it's gonna get crazier.
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: And what you also see with it, you know, I spoke recently to Michael Jan, who's a war correspondent, and he's in Europe, and I was just texting with him back and forth this morning. And he's saying that Germany is really getting, like, preparing riot police because they anticipate as they enter into the the winter and people can't heat their homes that there's gonna be massive unrest. And so with Putin cutting off gas to Europe, you know, be in response to the sanctions, it's almost like he lured NATO in Europe into this trap where it's like, okay, I'm the commodity rich country. You can sanction me, but I can still heat the homes of my citizens. You can still mine gold.
• 9:30
  He can still operate. They can grow food, etcetera. But by luring NATO into these economic sanctions against Russia, that gave them the ability to say, okay, we're gonna cut off your energy, which will absolutely cripple Europe. And so if if that was a preemptive move towards something more elevated, you'd have to say it's somewhat genius. And if you look at what's also happening out of Beijing, you know, Beijing, China is now talking actively about dethroning the dollar, the de dollarization, and they're already putting different meth you know, things into place to prepare for for financial sanctions coming from the West.
• 10:10
  So they watched what was happening in Ukraine, and now they're talking about really hardening their own currency and their own assets to protect themselves against sanctions, almost as if they're also preparing for this. So, you know, last we talked and we've spoken many times this year as the situations unfolded, you know, what what you kind of brought to the table that you seem very concerned about was that this wasn't about Taiwan, this wasn't about Ukraine, and that this is really part of a very long term strategy of this one clenched fist for China and Russia. And you've really made a strong point about Russia is not Russia like we think it is. Russia is just Soviet Union rebranded. Right?
• 10:51
  It's it's not like it's become some free Christian nation, but really that it's a lot of the same communist mechanisms that are underneath of that still working hand in hand with the CCP as we see play out militarily right now. So are you still believing that the communist regimes of, definitely of China and also these those elements within Russia are still preparing for some sort of kinetic attack on the West?
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: It does look like it. Yeah. Because if you watch what they're doing, that mobilization is war is a famous statement of Russian general said at the beginning of World War one. And so you get to the point where these mobilizations, you can't it's enormously costly to go to levels of mobilization and then to draw back from it. And it does appear from the beginning of everything that there is no reverse gear here.
• 11:44
  They're moving, they know what direction they're moving in, they're moving in that direction continually. For example, what we might see, and this would be really alarming, they do this mobilization, a million conscripts, three hundred thousand reservists, they go through a three month training or retraining cycle, They start to put these units together. Then they announce another one in three months. Right? You know, look at it's the beginning of fall.
• 12:10
  They announced the mobilizations on the twenty first, the first day of fall. So then you go to the twenty first, the first day of winter. Are they gonna do another cycle of mobilizations, another 1,300,000 men? Now you're talking about two six point 6,000,000 men adding to the military they already have. So now you're talking about 4,000,000 men.
• 12:28
  Now you can dance. Now you can have a nuclear World War because you've got a really large number of soldiers to follow-up on nuclear strikes, and maybe you're going to continue this process of mobilizing. And so I'm looking at this saying, everybody thinks they can't mobilize these numbers. Well, why not? So, you know, the defense minister Sergei Shoigu said, the amount we're mobilizing, the 300,000 reservists, that's only 1% of the reserves we could mobilize.
• 12:58
  Now what he's referring to is the 25,000,000 Russians that would be physically qualified to be able to be put under arms. Now under the Soviet Union, it's very interesting. Under the Soviet Union in the nineteen eighties, full mobilization was 30,000,000. Now the Soviet Union had twice the population of Russia. You know, they were 300,000,000 people.
• 13:20
  So they could mobilize 30,000,000 men, and the Soviet Union was equipped to to do that. 30,000,000 men, all arms nuclear war, expecting to lose twenty, twenty five million of them by the end of the war and to lose cities and to blow up whole, denude whole countries and continents. That was the and see, this is what we can't visualize because we're not differently rational as they are. What we can't visualize is that nuclear war in any sense makes sense. Right.
• 13:49
  But you read the Soviet textbooks and this is like Sakhalovsky's Soviet military strategy. And it's all about combined arms nuclear war. The decisive weapon of the next war will be the nuclear missile weapon. What is it that Russia has put all of its eggs in what basket? Their their ground forces, we know, are no good at conventional warfare, but they've modernized their missiles.
• 14:14
  They've got the hypersonic missiles. They've got the new nuclear warheads, the thermobaric warheads. They've got this specialized, high intensity, high blast, very fast moving, you know, rocket artillery. It's strategic rocket artillery that can hit Chicago and Washington and New York and hit our strategic arsenal, you know, our silos in the ground, maybe wipe them out. They blind the satellites, destroy the early warning with electromagnetic attacks, and then they come in and they wipe out the weapons when we don't know what's going on.
• 14:46
  In that thirty minutes of blindness and confusion, that's all they need. And then they have a disarming strike. So what do we hit them back with? A few submarine launched missiles if they don't destroy the subs or if they can get through. And, of course, the question is, do our missiles work?
• 15:03
  Do our bombs work? Because our nuclear arsenal famously is, the late Peter Pry who passed away last month was fond of saying is that, our nuclear arsenal has passed its shelf life and nobody's doing anything about it.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: And I see that
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: there are a
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: lot of people, especially in America, that that have a one of, you know, multiple ways of looking at things. I think that for some people, there's just a very strong, you know, cognitive dissonance. They don't believe it's almost like they look at this and say, look, know, we're past World War Two, we're past the Cold War, and they can't even wrap their head around the fact that we might be on the verge of World War three. And it's like, I'm sure that if you would have went to across Europe A Few Years before World War two started, they didn't see it coming either. And I think that now more than ever, we're not immune to this.
• 15:52
  But I also see there's a lot of people that say, because I've talked to a lot of folks about this too. So look. This is a real threat. Whether it's China or Russia, it's a real threat. And I'm consistently met with this response of, like, they would never attack America.
• 16:04
  America is the best military. We've got better weapons. You know? And look. Maybe if Trump was still in office and he was hammering away at building up our military might and bring our nuclear arsenal back to, you know, where it needs to be, etcetera, but the opposite is happening.
• 16:18
  So for people that say, look, there's really it would be suicide for Russia and China to attack America. What would your response be?
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: No. See, you know, I I watch, when I watch popular movies where nuclear weapons enter into it, it's like, the fallout will kill everybody. It'll wipe out everybody. No. Ever since on the beach, people have had this thought that fallout surrounds the world in a cloud and kills everybody.
• 16:45
  That is complete fiction. It's not true. You'll have a few more cancers and leukemias, and you'll have if anybody grazes sheep or has a garden in the crater of a nuclear blast, they're gonna probably have a higher chance of getting a cancer. But in reality, life goes on. And, they don't understand.
• 17:07
  The Russian leaders understand this very well, the Russian military leaders. Nuclear weapons are just weapons and nuclear war. You know, Russian military strategy, the book begins with describing war. They go back to ancient warfare and it says, well, this is how many people used to be in armies. This is how many people used to die in wars.
• 17:26
  And with each war, there's more people in the armies, more people dying in the war, more destruction. And until you get to World War Two, and it's the most destruction and the most people dying of all. Then, okay, logically, World War Three is the next step, and it's gonna be more people dying, bigger armies, more destruction. And that's just in the way the text reads as well, that's just the process of history. That's just the way it is.
• 17:47
  We have to accept it. You know, we're adults here. We're the adults in the room and we accept nuclear wars the way it's going to be fought. And you go to Americans, you know, and I was an academic and I would talk to other Americans. Have you read, you know, Sakhalovsky and Sidorenko?
• 18:02
  And they would say, oh, no, no, we don't read that stuff. That's just that's silly. Nobody's gonna ever have a nuclear war. And it's like denial is not a river in Egypt. Right?
• 18:15
  Just because you don't think it doesn't mean somebody else thinks it's, oh, that Hitler guy, he's not crazy enough to do all that. Sorry. Sorry. Been there, done that.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: And with Putin talking about nukes, and and this is actually you and I were speaking last night about this. Do you think that there is a real possibility of the nukes beginning with Ukraine? Do you think that Putin would actually start to use certain types of, say, tactical nukes in the Ukrainian region?
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Some of the people I've talked to with military background are very concerned that what's being prepared is, that Russia has, for example, Russia, it looks to me like from information I've gotten. Remember, Russia began the war in February with a double envelopment attack through Belarus from the North towards Kiev and then from the South coming across the Dnieper on the South. They crossed the Great River north and south to close off the country, cut it off from the West, cut it off from any supplies, and that failed. Well, it looks to me like there's nothing is even if Russia had a million men to throw, we know already that logistically they cannot support larger for they could barely support the size of forces that they had sent the first time. So how are they going to do it this time?
• 19:40
  Tactical nuclear weapons are the only way that they could possibly be contemplating this. The fact that they're not putting it in reverse and looking for peace means they're going to go to the next level. And there are some people that are saying they're going to do it. And I have to say it looks like they're gonna do tactical nukes because they're preparing airfields in Crimea and Belarusia as if they're gonna receive aircraft. And what difference are those aircraft gonna make unless they're gonna launch missiles that have some maybe thermo barracks, hopefully not nukes.
• 20:13
  But if they use nukes, they could level Ukraine and they could simply send light forces forward supported by nuclear weapons to blast any opposition out of the way and cut Ukraine's rail and communication lines to the West so that they can they can destroy the Ukrainian army from behind. And that seems to me what they could be preparing to do. It it's the indications are that something like that is being contemplated, and this mobilization shows us more than contemplated. They're taking steps. And then the question is, what will NATO do?
• 20:48
  And I think we have a clearer idea of what NATO will do and The US will do. People are just outraged at the way Russia has behaved. I mean, Putin's speech, if you look at Putin's speech, it's outrageous lies. The Nazi regime and Ukraine is threatening to destroy Russia. Wait a minute.
• 21:07
  Nobody's invaded Russia. Nobody's threatening Russia. Nobody's even saying they're gonna nuke Russia. You just got Ukraine wants to be independent. That's a threat, not to be under Russia's heel.
• 21:19
  So then we have to go in to destroy the Nazis or they're going to destroy us. I mean, this is just pure lies. And NATO, these people are saying these poor Ukrainians, we want to help them. And it's really coming from the public feeling for the underdog, especially the leadership that Poland has shown, because Poland is very worried about Russia reasserting its empire. And because they were part of that, they suffered under that.
• 21:45
  And many of the countries in the former Eastern Bloc, the Baltic States and Romania, they're worried. I've even heard Bulgarians say, we don't want to be in Russia again. And so this is a very powerful feeling. And so what you've got now is you've got this resistance. Did a poll in Germany on the September 9.
• 22:05
  Are you willing do you really want to suffer this economic collapse and loss of energy, loss of gas from Russia, you know, for Ukraine? Seventy Percent of Germans said, yeah. Yeah. We do. The German this is amazing.
• 22:20
  The German public is willing to go through this suffering for the sake of Ukraine. So when they nuke Ukraine, how are people going to feel? Outraged, afraid. People don't want to live under the fear of Russia. If Russia gets away from this, everyone will live under fear, and they don't want to.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: And do you think that if Putin did use nukes in Ukraine, because I know that we've already had various, you know, world leaders talking about how like that seems to be the tipping point. Right now, you know, sending money over there and some troops and some weapons, but it seems like the use of nukes in Ukraine would be the tipping point. So do you think that that's what would then cause NATO to maybe attack Moscow? Or, I mean, is that what then would launch us into what I would say would be a the realistic version of World War three?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Well, you see, the the problem is to understand the mentality of Americans and Europeans when it comes to World War three nuclear weapons. The idea of using nuclear weapons like that is just horrifying. A lot of our policy experts or strategists look at a nuclear weapon as something that sits there and looks pretty and scary and prevents war. So nobody I mean, even Henry Kissinger said this, last year. He said, nobody's had the discussion.
• 23:50
  What if deterrence fails? Right? Well, the Russians not only had that discussion, but for half a century, they've been talking about the fail. That deterrence has no real meaning. That when it comes down to war, you're gonna use these weapons.
• 24:04
  They don't really deter. So I don't know how we get over this mentality, but our leaders are gonna have to get over it pretty fast. And they're gonna have to recognize this. Knowing our leaders, I don't see them rushing to push the button when when it's tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. They're gonna denounce Russia and they're going to you think Russia's got any I mean, look, the Russian companies on the New York Stock Exchange have not even been kicked off.
• 24:38
  I mean, a lot of people don't know this. I mean, the sanctions on Russia aren't absolute. Russia is still carrying on a lot of business. If you if they use tactical nuclear weapons, you talk about being cut off. All, you know, Germany has nationalized Gazprom, not Gazprom, Rosneft, the Russian oil company property.
• 24:59
  I think it's three facilities in Germany. Everything, every single piece of Russian property in the West is gonna be nationalized. And that's gonna be a huge blow. And China, the Russians, this is very important. If Russia uses tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine, it will only be because the Chinese Politburo gave it a big thumbs up.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: That's there's no way Russia would do without the support of China.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Do you
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: China's the big economic power in their block, and so China's gonna have the final say.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: And do you think that China and specifically Xi Jinping and and the the CCP Politburo, do you think that they are masterminding a lot of what's happening in Ukraine?
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Well, they agreed to it. Look, when when Putin went to China on the February 4 and they had their meeting, their joint statement is worth reading. That joint statement says that Russia and China together form the most powerful military political combination since World War II.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Which is very true.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if you see, if we just look at their conventional military, Chinese has a very large conventional military, full mobilization, the Russians look pretty impressive. But the quality isn't there. They don't have the training. They don't have the good officers. They don't have the right military doctrine unless they're using nuclear weapons.
• 26:32
  It's the big equalizer. It's like this skinny kid and this really fit kid going to have a fight. But the skinny kid has a knife or a gun or something that gives them the advantage. If I'm a ninety pound weakling and I have a gun and you're a famous boxer, world class boxer and you have a gun, we're equal. Yeah, that's true.
• 26:54
  You know, I mean, that's what the nuclear weapon does. It levels the playing field. And of course, but it does more than that. The person who is willing to use the weapon first in a large way has an advantage psychologically and physically. And then you have this terror propaganda that nuclear weapons are the end of the world, this false apocalyptic consciousness.
• 27:16
  When nuclear weapons are just weapons, they're terrible. They're more destructive than anything that we've used. But in World War two, Germany was leveled with conventional weapons. The equivalent of 600 atomic bombs in conventional weapons was dropped on Germany in World War Two. And Germany's fine, right?
• 27:38
  It was rebuilt. You can destroy Hiroshima, the streetcars were working the next morning. It's a nice thriving city right now. It's not the end of the world, but it is. War.
• 27:53
  With terrible destruction and one side can win. If it is prepared more, if its concept of war is correct, and this is the big question, Many of our economists and people who look at Herman Khan on thermonuclear war, he talked about recovery from nuclear war being possible within five years. Provided you practice free market economics. Think about Russia and China is they don't work that way, even when they do free market economics, it's not really free market economics. It's only partially so.
• 28:31
  And so, the interesting thing is they don't for many of our experts go, well, they would lose because we look at their ability to recover and they wouldn't recover. They would collapse too. As bad as they would give it to us, they would suffer some months later, they would suffer collapse. That's the good news that they can't win. The bad news is how many months or could it be two years?
• 28:54
  Could they go on like this destroying conquering? You know it's that's the frightening part.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And the conversation that we had recently that was based upon a lot of the information from Luda media and Mr. Wong you revealed, and in that came out, that there was what seemed to be a very concrete plan for a kinetic war against America. And I remember talking to you before and also listening to, you know, and and reading through the transcript of the, the leaked conversation with these high level military generals that it seemed like everything that they were doing was so much bigger than what would just be Taiwan. And I think that we're seeing the same pattern in Russia right now. If it was just Ukraine, why would they be mobilizing 1,300,000 troops if it was just Ukraine?
• 29:48
  You know?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: And they're telling their men, like I said before, they're telling them, oh, you're not you're gonna be fighting when you get on with your train, but you're not gonna be fighting in Ukraine. And it's like, what?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: So and so where do you think they will be fighting? Like, what what in your opinion, what comes next?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I can only say what I would do trying to crawl in you know, you wanna in strategy, you wanna crawl inside the other guy's head and see it through their eyes as much as you can. That's not an easy exercise and not everybody can do it. And I I've tried to understand the way they think, which is not the way you or I would think. So if what I say sounds impossible and strange, it's because it's from an alien kind of thinking. So this is the way they think.
• 30:33
  If they can cause enough destruction fast enough, collapse the West, they have look at their strategy. This is very interesting. There's a book, very famous old book, Soren Kierkegaard, the sickness unto death. Right? Soren Kierkegaard, it turns out, has an insight that is very vital to communism and Nazismal totalitarianism.
• 30:57
  He says in here, despair is sin. Despair is sin. And he's got all these he goes on. He progressively dialectically goes through despair is sin. All these forms of sin.
• 31:11
  And sin is error. It's another word for sin. And if you look at the rhetoric of the Nazis, what what did Hitler do? He said, oh, poor Germany. Germany's a victim.
• 31:23
  Oh, Germany despair. You know, the the the the Jewish Bolsheviks and the Jewish capitalists have destroyed you. And now you only have one choice. You have to make the whole you have to go against them all. Well, Russia's doing the same thing.
• 31:37
  You know? It's the evil conspiracy of the Nazi American NATO the American NATO Nazis and Ukrainians, you know, only it's there's been an intellectual degeneration. So it's under the Jewish Rothschilds. It's now it's a Jewish Nazi conspiracy. So but they but it's poor Russia.
• 31:59
  Russia is a victim. Despair Russia. Well, what is despair? Look at if people examine their own lives as Kierkegaard did, where do you get the permission to do some of the worst things you've done in your life? It's from feeling sorry for yourself.
• 32:14
  It's from that despair. You feel sorry for yourself, so you're going to strike back. You're going to lash out. You're going to act out. You're going to be bad.
• 32:24
  And you see this bad behavior emerging from envy, emerging from self pity. I mean, this is the the the secret, the dirty secret of the narcissistic rage is a narcissist feels that he's been a victim. And he's entitled now to to have his. And you look when you when I look at Putin's rhetoric, this is so loud in the way he talks. It's like Hitler saying, the Versailles treaty, they injusticed us.
• 32:54
  They took our territory, and it's Putin. It's like, it's the end of the Cold War. They stole from us. We're going to get it back, you know? And it's the same exact chip on the shoulder for me.
• 33:05
  We're the victim. We have the right. We need to, you know, lash out. That made Hitler madly the enemy of the whole world. The United Nations came out of the alliance that fought Hitler.
• 33:20
  Was all the countries that fought Hitler. That's what they called it. The United Nations fought Hitler. And so now he's doing again only this time. This is almost like a comedy.
• 33:32
  Karl Marx kind of paraphrasing Hegel said in one of his books, he said, history always repeats itself. The first time is tragedy, the second time is farce. Well, here's the farce. Here's little Putin being little Hitler reprising the Anschluss in Austria, only he stubs his toe. He can't even take Ukraine over in an Anschluss.
• 33:56
  Anschluss was when Hitler just marched into Austria and they just waved the flag and said, welcome, welcome. We love the Fuhrer. But he goes in and they don't want it. Stubs his toe. And now all the world hates him, except for his Chinese allies and his communist friends in Cuba and North Korea.
• 34:12
  All the world hates him. And so he's now he's he skipped all these steps. He has not successfully taken all this territory back and all the world hates him. But he's got one thing Hitler didn't have. He's got nukes.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: And he's
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: got no reverse. Yeah. He's got the CCP, right? Nukes in the CCP, and he's got no reverse gear. So he's not turning around and going, oops, I'm going to be the nice guy now.
• 34:36
  I'm going to be the nice Nazi or the nice dictator now. He's not. He's just getting meaner and crazier.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: And this is what concerns you, right, with not only Russia, but also with China, that they're, you know, in a lot of ways, they're a rattlesnake backed into a corner. And the now is when they might be even taking risks that they wouldn't normally do because and and maybe we can talk a little bit about this too, but China, as far as I understand, is very, close to collapsing, their economy is failing, the COVID stuff is really hitting them, lot of being done by them, but let's talk a little about where China's at, because if you look at the situation that the CCP is in, they're like similar. They're in a similar position where I'm concerned about how frantic they would be, especially towards the West at this time.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a saying in the book of Proverbs, he who digs a pit will fall into it. Right. And there's you use the term being backed into a corner. But the better analogy is is they both Russia and China have painted themselves into a corner. And I saw this.
• 35:43
  There's a great cartoon, and it was Putin, and he would use the color red. And he had painted this room and he had painted himself all the way into the corner where he's sitting, standing in the corner with the original color behind him with the paintbrush and the bucket and everything's red. Now he's stuck. Because that's what he's done. But let's review China for a minute.
• 36:01
  We know how Putin painted himself into the corner with this Ukraine thing escalating to this point. China, remember in '20 well, it was actually late twenty nineteen, this virus got out. And this is my theory about the virus from the sources I've gotten. This is very controversial and I could be wrong. Whether the virus got out accidentally or they released it on purpose, they went with it.
• 36:30
  And we could see this that they allowed remember that heroic Chinese dentist who was in the ER around the beginning of it was like the last couple of if I remember right, it was the last day or two of the year 2019. And he was in an ER and oh yeah, we have these new people that are sick. We have this new illness. He was like, you have a new illness. And, you know, they remembered that they had SARS before and he's seeking a SARS like illness.
• 36:58
  So he let people know about it. And what ended up happening was he got called on the carpet by the party secretary, I think the local party boss, and he said, you're a party member. You can't say this. You know, you're in trouble. And they were so they were hiding the pandemic.
• 37:19
  And then they allowed the pandemic to spread in Wuhan. They actually they had the New Year celebration. And in the New Year celebration, they the city fathers wanted to cancel the potluck in the dance. But they but Beijing, the order came down from Beijing, you do not cancel those events. And it was at that potluck that that thing just went wild everywhere because it spreads like the common cold.
• 37:46
  And then it was and of course, New Year's Chinese New Year's is the biggest travel day in China is when all these Chinese come from especially Italy, where the textile industry is bound up with China and from The U. S. And Australia. And these Chinese, they go out from the infected Wuhan to all over the world carrying the virus to Europe, to North America, to Australia. And bam, there it was.
• 38:12
  And by the way, that had an effect on China. Now, they closed off one of the other Chinese cities. And and and I think the virus and this is what I think. I think the virus was initially more dangerous than it is now. It mutated to a more harmless kind of flu.
• 38:29
  I think also that when they tested this weapon, they tested it on their log eye prisoners. And remember, the people vulnerable to dying are people who don't have zinc or vitamin D in their bodies. What do you think a Chinese prisoner has in terms of zinc and vitamin D, given what they're fed? So they probably gave those to prisoners and they found that half of them were dying of this thing or maybe more. And they thought, oh, this will sweep the West, this will destroy the West and we'll just batten down China.
• 38:57
  See, look at the extraordinary measures of blocking people in their apartment complexes. It turned out their weapon was a dud. See, they were intending something bad, and I think what happened is the bad vibes, they were really guilty. They didn't remember the Australian prime minister. He got all upset and he said, we need to investigate where this came from.
• 39:18
  And China immediately reacted so harshly, they went into a kind of an economic spat with Australia ended up stupidly cutting off their own coal shipments, caused them to have to close down a lot of their industries because they weren't didn't have enough coal to keep the lights on. So it turns out this hypersensitivity and China's behavior, a lot of people turned against China. You know, a lot of people were like, I don't think China I don't think this China trade thing is good. And although the China had a tremendous hold on Western industry, they went and stepped back and Trump was already putting the screws on in trade, trying to do his trade thing. So they took on damage.
• 39:57
  And since they were communists and they're corrupt and there's a lot of their banking systems, a house of cards. And their real estate is just a giant bubble waiting to burst. It basically all of this burst that bubble. And whereas they might have wanted to wait and go do World War three fifteen, what I heard was the word was that they were going to do this attack in 02/1935. They were going to do their war.
• 40:24
  But this. Stumble is forcing them to go early when they're not entirely ready.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Interesting. I see. Because they're
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: their society that they're sitting on 1,400,000,000 people. It's a powder keg. If they can't control that society, that society turns on them. How are they going to control 1,400,000,000 angry people who are hungry and the economy is collapsing and there's no jobs? So they have to teach the Chinese, as General Qiao Chen says in his speech, we have to teach the Chinese people to go out because eventually they'll hang us all as criminals.
• 40:58
  I mean, he literally says that in his speech. Because China will eventually suffer an economic downturn, they'll blame the Communist Party. So the Communist Party has to have war on the shelf ready to go in case things go wrong.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I see.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: So
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: with China, and I do think a lot of the timing of this has been driven by China, you've already said that look, they won't be Russia wouldn't use nukes without the thumbs up from someone up in the Politburo or Xi Jinping himself. So that basically, if I'm gonna say it correctly, this really makes a lot of sense, because I had my own research had led me to believe that the virus was not supposed to be released that early, but they had to release it earlier because one of the big reasons because Trump weakened them so much with his sanctions and his tariffs, and they had to get him out of office. And that became one of the great tools that they used to do what they did in 2020. Right? It was all in the guise of the of the Yeah.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: And if they were if they were gonna get Trump out, they needed a weak leader to come in that then if they had to have a war, they'd be facing a very weak American president.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Makes perfect sense. Yeah. So the timing of all of this and the reason why we're seeing things play out as they are instead of what you said, China waiting strategically because you know China has never been in a rush that you know they've got their one hundred year marathon their goal was to supplant America by 02/1949 right you know that was the original one hundred year marathon and so basically it's almost like they lit off a bomb of the COVID virus, but the fuse screwed up. It didn't go off right. It ended up hurting them more than their enemy.
• 42:31
  And so now they're in a situation where that caused this ripple effect of kind of collapsing a lot of their society. And because they were so harsh with their lockdowns, everything, only option that they have is to try to quickly turn into a war economy and enter into a global war. Because if they just let this, if they were patient and play the long game, they don't have time anymore, and their society would probably collapse and revolt and the CCP would fall in the next couple of years. So, so if I understand correctly then, so China is at, is in a very, very weakened state, which also makes me very concerned because that's when the enemy is the most sporadic. That's when the enemy will do things that wouldn't normally make sense.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Right. I was and it was really interesting. I was hearing from sources in Russia Two Years ago, more than two years ago, that China was pushing for war in '20 in late twenty twenty. And they were pushing for Russia to start things. They were talking about it in May, in April and May of twenty twenty.
• 43:38
  And Russia was saying, no, no, no, we're not ready. We can't go. We can't possibly go now. And that this was what I was hearing from my sources. And that, it was really interesting.
• 43:48
  It was Russia putting on the brakes. And, as we can see, Russia even waiting till February of twenty twenty two, Russia was not ready, clearly. They did not have their act together as much as they they thought they did. And so you could see that Russia's nervousness about being ready, being pushed from behind by China, it it just it just miscarried for them. We might if Russia didn't have these problems, we might already be in World War three.
• 44:19
  The Ukrainians may have saved us by holding them back. Just like if if Hitler had been stopped in Austria, Czechoslovakia, there might not have been a World War two. You know? And so, you know, that's the good news. But the problem is they're not reversing gear.
• 44:40
  Putin hasn't been overthrown. Xi is on schedule. In fact, one of the sinister signs was the the big party meeting scheduled in November that was going to the Xi was going to, you know, re up his dictatorship has been advanced, I think, to the October 16. So it's like, why did they move that up?
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: That's probably
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Why move it up? And October's a pretty interesting month because that's when the Caesar come around Taiwan when you would impose a blockade or do an invasion as those people who believe that an invasion is coming. But I again, I because Qiu Chen said in his speech twenty years ago, we're gonna make them think our target is Taiwan, but our target is America. And that really troubles me because they're making everybody believe their target is Taiwan. But their mobilization is much larger as the fifty seven minute tape showed.
• 45:35
  It's much larger than just Taiwan. And this was confirmed by mister Wang at Luda Media who's who basically, interestingly, affirmed that. A guy who he really doesn't know my work or the the defector sources. I use colonel Stanislav Luna have talked about this strategy of, you know, sort of roping off the rest of the world, making it shaken terror as they come right for North America. And that's a nuclear combined nuclear arms, the old combined nuclear war.
• 46:05
  And the thing is that they they don't wanna nuke Europe. They want new Europe intact because Europe is going to be their milk cow. You know? It's gonna gonna provide all the milk and honey for them when they when they dominate the world. The same thing with China in the Far East.
• 46:21
  They don't wanna devastate the Far East. They wanna own it as their golden basket. Right? And they just want see, Russia and China, to understand their strategic thinking, is imagine if North America sank like Atlantis into the ocean and it didn't exist. Who would dominate the world?
• 46:39
  Russia and China. Not one of the other countries have nuclear arsenals or military establishments large enough to to stop China. I mean, India is a very large country, and it's got a very big military establishment. But they've got just a tiny nuclear arsenal that is not properly positioned. They could easily be wiped out and would not nuclear war between Russia and China would be hands down a Chinese victory.
• 47:06
  And and and, of course, how could India survive against a nuclear armed China if its nuclear arsenal was gone? How long before China was on its knees and having to surrender? Like Japan in 1945?
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: And this is the same thing with France and Britain or nuclear powers, but nuclear powers with just very small numbers of nuclear weapons compared to Russia. You know? How does how does a few dozen nuclear weapons or or so that are effective gonna be able to stop thousands on the other side?
• 47:39
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  Be sure to use my promo code Seth for your free title scan at hometitlelock.com/seth. Alright, so Jeff, I want to just look into timeline because last we had talked about things, it was looking like August 1 was the timeline that China would start to make moves more serious moves on Taiwan, which we're seeing, but in terms of, you know, as we're just getting into this long term plan of really, realistically making America sink, do you think that that there is a real possibility that there could be a kinetic attack on America? And do you think that there would be perhaps a an EMP to preempt that attack? Or how would you see that playing out?
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: All of those things are possible. I mean, given the way the Russians are talking, when when if you study Russians' strategic thought, they say that the most important thing is preparing the people of their country for war, for a nuclear war. And then that means orienting their people to who the enemy is and getting them used to the idea, telling them that there's gonna be a nuclear war. Well, this is exactly what the Chinese authorities have been telling the Chinese people. For two years, they've been talking about war is coming.
• 50:09
  And and right now, we're just seeing Sergei Lavrov said last week, the foreign minister of Russia, nuclear war is coming. That's a quote a a direct quote. And then his speech here just within the last twenty four hours, he's saying that, the war with NATO is gonna be, you know, I forget the word to use, brutal, terrible, hard. You know? And and so this is preparing the Russian people.
• 50:35
  We got nobody. We have nobody on the the NATO side saying that this is coming. I mean, the Germans and the Europeans, they're biting the bullet. They're gonna sacrifice through the winter. They're gonna sacrifice and be cold and have to suffer through a winter without adequate heating fuel.
• 50:53
  But, but still, I I'm not sure people understand we should be responding to these mobilizations, and we're not. This this worries me.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: And you've talked about, and as we discussed recently as well, that a lot of this is about how the citizens of that country view, and that's what determines the success or failure of a war many times is what the citizens think of it. And so China, I think they view their populace as a ticking time bomb that because there's already massive unrest and looking into lockdowns, etc. But you go to America, you know, you listen to Biden and I'm the enemy, you're the enemy. You listen to look at the DOJ and it's the parents of the school board that are the enemies. Not once are we seeing any of these public officials or politicians talk about how China is the real enemy, and if they are, they're very, very few.
• 51:44
  Now Trump and say Pompeo, they were very proactive in really identifying China as enemy, but that's all but disappeared, which shows you how much compromise there's been at the top levels of our of our government.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Well, the problem too is you have this element on the right that sees NATO as the enemy, sees America as the enemy because you have they're alienated because Biden is president, the party of gay marriage and, trans genderism and everything is is and and making giving five year old sex change operations, that party is in power. And you've got this this left of center crazy agenda. Global warming, you know, is just a giant sabotage of our economy is in power in Europe. And so they look at the West as evil. The problem is that having a party in the West that alternately takes power that has these values, these false values, is not the same thing as a totalitarian dictator who is ready for mass murder and that is stomping his own people and and totally trashing his neighbor's country, leveling cities, massacring civilians and threatening the world with nuclear war.
• 52:59
  I mean, we have problems in the West, but are the evil in the West is not on that level. And the thing is that the thing we ought to be doing is unifying the right and left and saying, you know, we have this enemy. We can work out our problem later. We can figure it out because I think a lot of this bad stuff that's believed on the left and the right, some of the conspiracy stuff, if you examine this, wait a minute, this sounds like Russian propaganda. What are they doing?
• 53:29
  They're trying to get while they're getting ready for war against us. Our right left are getting ready for war against each other. So domestically, we're preparing for the wrong war. We're preparing for a war against ourselves. Now, the big question, the question that you always have to ask is Qi Qi Bono.
• 53:48
  Who benefits from this? Well, the Chinese and the Russians benefit from it. And then you look and you go, wait a minute. We've seen propaganda like this before. Oh, coming from the Chinese, coming from the domestic communists in The US, coming from the Russians.
• 54:03
  Wait a minute. This is a Russian SIOP, And we're falling for it. Left is falling for it. Right is falling for it. You know, the left had this big thing.
• 54:12
  Trump is a Russian puppet. You have all these people left and center. They believe in it. And so then they think, oh, yeah. And then you now you've got people on the right actually acting like Russian puppets, which just feeds the whole thing.
• 54:24
  They go, well, see, General Flynn, he's for Russia. And so, Putin is fighting the new world order. And it's like, no, the new world order is a communist front. And Russia is still the Soviet Union, as you said, rebranded because guess what? Russia is supporting every communist country in the world from the The Congo and the ANC in South Africa to Cuba and and, North Korea.
• 54:52
  They gave new North Korea its nuclear, capabilities. They've been giving Iran all of the nuclear engineers in Iran were trained in Russia. So it it's all the trouble is being made from Russia, and the Russians are helping the communists. And why are they helping the Iranians? Because the laws went to Moscow State University.
• 55:12
  And and that form of Islam is a liberation theology form of Islam. It is to Islam what liberation theology is to Catholicism. It's it's a communist in a caller. Talking about God. So.
• 55:29
  This is what they've got, they've got this global communist movement. And it's they haven't quite been able to get it off the ground, but now they've been, as we both said, they've painted themselves into this corner and it's like, well, I think we can nuke our way out now, As crazy as that sounds. And that's what it looks like. I mean, I hope not.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: It's such an interesting point that you bring up and just being vulnerable in my own journey of this. I've done extensive research. I've gone down the path of reading about the bloodlines and the Rothschilds and, you know, the the military industrial complex and, you know, Epstein Island and the Mossad and actually, I think that there is a lot of truth to a lot of it actually. And I think that there are very evil elements even within our own government. If you look at, you know, the bushes and the wars that they've waged for the weapons of mass destruction and the the backdoor deals with the House of Saudi, etcetera.
• 56:24
  But I think that what's happened, though, is that the the communists, you know, China, Russia, you know, KGB, and this has been for a long term, what they've done, it's like they they've it's like say you have a house and there's a criminal living in your house that's done very bad things. What they've done is they've taken all the people living in that house and they've pointed at that criminal and said look your whole house should fall because of this, right, and that's what they've done and so there are people that are you know on the right that are that they're investigating, they're digging into things, they're finding real things of corruption even within the US government, but the problem that I see is that what they're doing is that they're looking at that information and they're saying that, oh see look it's the West that's evil. And I've even had people comment and say on my chats and say, I would if I saw Chinese troops arrive, would welcome them because they're gonna help clear out the evil in the West. And to me, it's like that is frightening because yes, I do agree that there are definitely there's evil within our government.
• 57:22
  You look at it doesn't take a a genius to see that for sure. But look at what our government did under Trump. I think you made a really good point in saying that it's really it's the leadership. You know, when when Trump was in power, he was doing really important things to put America First and and to really make America great again. And so but it's it's the leadership.
• 57:40
  It's the Clintons, the Obamas, the Bushes. It's you know, there are have been criminals within our government, but it doesn't mean that our, the fabric of our nation is corrupt and evil. But if you look at, you know, had someone that posted ahead of this discussion and they said, look, why, where's your proof that Putin is evil? Right? And it's just like, well, look at the history of Russia, look at the Soviet Union, look at the goals of the Soviet Union and ask yourself if those goals didn't change when Russia, you know, opened up to the West when the Soviet Union fell.
• 58:14
  And that's that's the big point that's really helped me see through all of this. It's like, I see that there's evil on both sides, but what concerns me the most is that Putin is working so closely with the Chinese Communist Party. And to me if there's one thing that is that you can't argue, it's that the CCP in my opinion is the most evil regime on earth, and anything that paves a way for the CCP to gain more global power, which is what's happening, you know, by partnering with and working on this and doing it with Putin. This is paving the way for the CCP to enter into into this world as a global, dominantly global, you know, force, which is they've spoken openly about the goal of a global Marxist system. They want to completely get rid of the capitalist system.
• 59:03
  And so this is what really concerns me is that we have people that are saying, look, maybe the CCP is not that bad, maybe Xi Jinping is not that bad. And that's what really makes me think, wow, they've been so crafty with their propaganda, and they've made a flavor of propaganda for every person's diet in America.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing is, is that people, Americans especially, are naive and that they think that that somehow, human nature and politics are good. If they read the Federalist Papers, if they study the founding fathers, the founding fathers knew it's a basic principle. Men are evil. They're naturally corrupt and power corrupts. Like Lord Acton said, power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
• 59:51
  That's because human nature is bad. This is the great insight of the ancient Greeks and Romans when they set up what they called mixed government, which is what we have. The constitution is not a democracy. It's mixed government. You have the legislature, you have the executive, you have federalism, you have the judiciary.
• 1:00:09
  In England, they had the House of Lords, the House of Commons, and Crown. And they all checked and balanced each other. Why did they have checks and balances? Because people are bad. Right?
• 1:00:21
  You don't want them to have the power. And then people say, well, what's your ideology? You think communism is the most evil thing in the world? No, there's evil everywhere. That's why my political creed is checks and balances.
• 1:00:33
  Because we got evil too. And yeah, our evil, you're not gonna get rid of it. Look. If you if if you knew where your sausage was made, you would never eat it. And guess what?
• 1:00:45
  Politics is our nasty sausage. If you knew if you really understood what went on in politics, you would go, it's horrible. It's always been that way. Look, Mark Twain said one hundred and forty years ago that Congress was America's native criminal class. And that when Congress was in session, nobody's property was safe.
• 1:01:07
  So this isn't new that we have corruption. And it was H. L. Mencken who said, yeah, our robber barons are robbers, but at least they built something for everybody. Whereas all previous robber barons were just plain robbers.
• 1:01:23
  Okay? So capitalism, like John F. Kennedy said, rising tide lifts all boats. You're never going to get rid of that nasty evil thing because it's part of who we are as human beings. Just like you're never getting rid of poverty and war.
• 1:01:35
  This crazy idea that people have on the left and maybe some of them on the right, if we only got rid of the malefactors of great wealth, we would be fine. No, you wouldn't. You'd be living in a cave. Because you got to have a free market. Okay, there's corruption.
• 1:01:51
  Okay. There's insider trading. These bad things happen. You try to cope with it. You have your checks and balances.
• 1:01:56
  That's as good as it gets. Because when you don't have checks and balances, you got that run amok dictator like Putin with his lackeys. And you see him in that room when he's declaring when he's setting up the war to go into Ukraine. And he's on one side of the room. There's like 20 feet between him and them.
• 1:02:13
  And they're saying it's like a first grade class. And they speak when he calls on him and they stand there and he just humiliates them. Right. That was a horrible scene. I mean, you you were seeing how a dictatorship works on TV in real time.
• 1:02:28
  And you're watching it. You're going, that's really ugly because it is super corrupt. They call it a kleptocracy. And the same thing, it's worse in China. Like you say, the evil is there.
• 1:02:39
  They're taking people they don't like because they're Christians or because they're Falun Gong. And they're cutting their kidneys and they're perfectly healthy young people, and they're taking their organs and selling them on the black market, even selling them in the West to corrupt our Western medical systems for organ transplants. It's like, oh my gosh, that's just these are so, yeah, evil is a matter of gradations, you know, all evil is not equal. And the you can always point to things that are wrong in the West, and we got our problems that we have to work out. But that problem over there with nuclear weapons and and the insanity of it, you know, it's I'll repeat what the defector, GRU Colonel Stanza Lunev told me.
• 1:03:27
  I asked him, I said, are there any good people in the Kremlin? Or in the Russian general staff, he looked at me like, are you stupid? I mean, he didn't say that, but I thought I felt really stupid asking the question goes, these are not human beings. These are crazy persons. And what he told me.
• 1:03:45
  And now we're seeing it. We're seeing it play out this mobilization. That speed that demented speech yesterday that Putin gave, it's just and and the reaction of ordinary Russians is like, oh, no. He's gonna do it. They're gonna do a nuclear war.
• 1:04:06
  Now whether that's a correct reaction, I'm not bluffing. My reaction to the speech was, nobody says I'm not bluffing unless they're bluffing. You know, play poker with someone and then they put the money down and goes, I'm not bluffing. You're gonna call their bluff. Right?
• 1:04:25
  But is that calculated? Is that have they culturally studied us to know that that's how we would react to that speech? Whereas Russians hear it and they go, they're hearing something different.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's so in your opinion, you think that we're entering into very precarious times where we could quickly see things emerge as as a real World War three. I mean, is that a way what is your best guess to what this next six months could look like?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: I was starting to relax. Two weeks ago, I thought, alright, we're getting towards the end of summer. Nothing's happening. They probably they've decided they've bungled enough. They're not gonna go through with the war.
• 1:05:10
  I was thinking that in my mind because I wasn't seeing any signs. You know, Russia needs to mobilize to match China's mobilization. They need to do certain things. They need to talk to their population a certain way. I wasn't seeing it.
• 1:05:22
  And here we were. We were past the fifteenth of the middle of the month. The Arctic's gonna freeze over in a couple weeks, and I'm thinking, you know, for full cooperation, if they're gonna attack The United States, they need to do it when that ice is open. And I thought, no. It's good.
• 1:05:36
  So for the last two weeks, I haven't I didn't have an article last week because I've been working on studying our domestic politics. And I've been working on all kinds of problems, and it was a long essay. It was planned. And then this happens, which it's like, oh, no. You gotta be kidding.
• 1:05:53
  They're, you know, they're gonna do it now. And it it's like, hope that that's not the case, but this is another shoe dropping. You know, in the sequence that's playing out step by step. And so it is I I go from, you know, going, oh, thank goodness we got to the September. I don't see any of those signs.
• 1:06:17
  Maybe mister Wang was wrong or the Chinese leadership changed your mind. But now this. After by the way, just like the invasion in February happened after a meeting between Putin and Xi, the president of China, they had a meeting in Samarkand, Uzbekistan some days ago, and now this. Like, they get they have a huddle, and now the new strategy. They go to the next step.
• 1:06:44
  And every time they take a big step, so this must be a big step, they meet.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: And I remember back when Russia was mobilizing and they were on the border of Ukraine, and I had you on, and you just before anything happened. And it was interesting because I hope that people can look to this and maybe just be a little more open minded but at that time you said look, I'm already saying distinctly mobilization is war and you had said that you expected that Russia was going to invade Ukraine and everything that you saw pointed to that but even then I had a lot of people that were saying, Jess being a fearmonger and Russia is not actually going to invade Ukraine and this is just it's all optics and and lo and behold, you know, couple of days later they actually invaded. So I just want to remind people that just try to be careful with what narrative you've got stuck in your mind and that's what I've had to do. And I can tell you that, you know, I've really appreciate our conversations Jeff because you've made me question a lot of the assumptions I had about the world, about Putin, about China, about the West, and but it's me being able to enter into this conversation with an open mind and listen to you and then reference what you've said against things I've heard elsewhere, whether I'm interviewing Trevor Loudon or General Robert Spaulding or just in my own research to make sense of what's happening.
• 1:08:09
  And I've really come to the point where, this is why I keep asking you to come back on my show where I think that you're one of the most accurate people in terms of understanding the real motivations of what's happening with this communist bloc that's really, I feel like that they're in their endgame, that this is, know, you know, China talked about their final war, and that's what they talked about in that leaked military speech. This is their final war, and I really believe that we're at that stage in history, and that I think that I agree with you that it wasn't supposed to be this soon, but there's been a lot of circumstances that have really pushed up that timeline, and that we're at this timeline. And so I think that this is why I talk a lot about prepping, you know, all the things that I talk about is because I believe this is where we're at. But I also think that it's important for people to understand, and you know, I've had this conversation many times that just because that China and Russian, or sorry, sorry, just because they are so powerful nuclear, you know, the amount of troops they can mobilize, it doesn't mean that they could successfully take America.
• 1:09:13
  And you made a really important point in saying that, look, say they did attempt a land invasion on America, whether they could last a couple of months, and be able to supply that invasion with their own population, probably revolting back home, So that, you know, you felt that look, if they if they don't collapse before that there is this attack, potentially, that even after attack, there's a good chance that they would fall before being able to complete their mission.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a, you know, we've we've all often talked about the dumbing down of America, and we've heard about how we can see the intellectual standards have been in decline. But one of the things that's really amazing is that the intellectual standards in Russia and China have declined. And that's very interesting in terms of their top leadership. Xi Jinping I'll give you an example. Xi Jinping styles himself as the greatest leader in China since Mao, and they say he has collected to himself the most power.
• 1:10:08
  Now he is, in many ways, a typical Chinese functionary, not a really the kind of leader you saw in Mao. So you see, Mao was a genius. He you you pick up the little red book, I've got it around here somewhere, and you turn it up, and there's these amazing even in translation, they're aphoristic. They're interesting. You know, political power flows out of the barrel of a gun.
• 1:10:31
  There's profundity there. The guy's a genius. And as anyone, you know, fluent in Mandarin will say, he's a great Chinese poet. He actually is. You know?
• 1:10:42
  And and so you could see how this man made this murderous system work because he had the genius to make it work. Then you look at Xi Jinping. Alright? He is the he is the new Mao. Okay?
• 1:10:57
  You look at his book. Everybody can look at his book. It's the governance of China. I think it's the title of his book. Go to Amazon and look at the reviews.
• 1:11:05
  The third review down says, this is the biggest snoozefest book ever. You know? Another one's saying, read page one, and then just imagine a 45 pages exactly like page one. So this guy is a mediocrity, no imagination, dull as a brick, and just he just makes up for it for this tremendous lust for power. And, of course, it's murderous and stuff, but it's not brilliant.
• 1:11:35
  It has no brilliance. You go Putin is basically looks up to Stalin. Stalin is his model. I I spoke to an elderly Russian lawyer a couple years ago. She she, Simona Pipko, she's from the Soviet Union.
• 1:11:50
  She, studied law, and she met Stalin in, I think it was in Leningrad. He came to talk to their law class when she was a young law student, and she said he had tremendous charisma. And when you heard him, you just knew what he was saying had truth in it. That Stalin, even as evil as he was, he had truth. He had he could penetrate into things that he could see in in a twisted way what the truth was.
• 1:12:16
  And so he was the genius that built the Soviet house, that made the machine. And even when you look at his books, I mean, I've got some of his books here, like, Fundamentals of Leninism. It is so exact and so precise and so amazingly clear. Stalin was the person who made Marxism and Leninism clear because you could read those books and go, what did I just read? You know, because it's so abstract.
• 1:12:47
  And so he had this genius for simplifying it and making it so that this huge bureaucracy could actually function on it. And then you look at Putin. I mean, if hat size indicates intelligence, how smart could Putin be? You know? I mean, his hat size is too small.
• 1:13:05
  He's not that smart. He's an envious little guy who swaggers. He puts a swagger in his walk to make up for his size. You know, so it's like, look at the decisions they've made. Look at the rhetoric, the Russian rhetoric, as I said before, it's just it's just not even coherent.
• 1:13:23
  So wait a minute. You can't even make a coherent rhetoric justification for what you're doing? You're attacking a Nazi regime led by Jews? Really? This is not even coherent.
• 1:13:36
  So it's like you talk about dumbing down of America, there's the dumbing down of America's enemies. And so this is where it's it gets really interesting because it's like, are they even smart enough to pull this off? I mean, to what extent? Now we know China because of what Trump did, China started to implode. But from talking to I talked to this Wall Street Banker who said they're doing it to themselves.
• 1:14:01
  The steps that they're taking in this these recent preparations they're doing within their own economy are destroying their own economy. I mean, the zero tolerance policy, which is probably hiding mobilizations, it's just it's just accelerating their implosion. And of course, Russia, with its in this economic warfare with the West, who's getting harmed worse, worse, the flexible free market that is adapting. They are working day and night now to solve Germany's energy problem. And they will figure out a way.
• 1:14:32
  Maybe Germany Germany will suffer, but they'll figure out substitutes. You know, they're they're I just read the other day. They're they're operating the first trains in Germany entirely on hydrogen power. Right? So imagine the technology that's going to come out of solving this problem when the free market puts its mind to it, because there's billions or even trillions involved in fixing this problem.
• 1:14:59
  And in Russia, nobody's fixing it because the dictator White wakes up in the morning. He's got his agenda, and that's all that gets done in the country. No creativity. Paint by numbers. And this is why they failed have failed in Ukraine so far.
• 1:15:14
  And it's why they're even before the war starts are dissolving. I heard on the West Coast, the Chinese ships, they're not coming in the numbers they were coming before. You've got empty berths now. They're starting to draw back from us. That's another bad sign that something's going to happen.
• 1:15:32
  So I just wanted to give that as a kind of background.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very helpful. So, Jeff, we're gonna now jump into the Q and A portion of the interview, which I've got a few more questions for which we'll get into. But before we do, I just wanna I wanna bring up your website here for people to see because, which is just, let me pull it up real quick, jrnyquist.blog. So this is where you write, this is where you're very active. You have an email list, right, that people can sign up to if you want to support your work, But this has been a wealth of information for me and it's been one of the main blogs I've looked to to understand especially what's happening with communism and what they're doing.
• 1:16:16
  So is there any other thing that you want to share with people before we head over to that Q and A?
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: I have a new book out. It's called, The Lies We Believe In, and it's available on Amazon. So The Lies We Believe In, and of course, my other book, is smaller, and I think it's a good overview, is called The Fool and His Enemy. Yeah. There it is.
• 1:16:36
  Lies we believe in Russia, China, Russia, the communist revolution in America.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: I would also recommend people reading, your book, which I believe is called Origins of the Fourth World War. Is that correct?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Yes. That's correct.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Yes. And order to play into it, it hits like it's prophetic, actually.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Well, it was I started writing it thirty five years ago, and it I put it in the desk drawer, and a Russian friend said, when are you gonna publish that thing? I said, well, when there's a finally, there's some openness to the idea. And there was a little bit in 1998, I got invited on the Art Bell show. Art Bell heard about the manuscript and had me on. So it got published because he urged me to do it.
• 1:17:18
  And then I just started I was invited to write columns for, you know, Newsmax and Worldnet Daily and Financial Cents. And so I started that way. But, yeah, I you could it my thing was understanding political science and sociology and the Cold War and stuff. And I I kind of I got lucky. I looked at the defector literature, And you could read the future if you read that.
• 1:17:43
  Because the defectors, they had access some of them to strategic plans. And you look at the strategic plan and then you look at current events, you go, wait a minute, they're still on that track. And then can then figure out from there. So it's kind of a cheat. It's not really.
• 1:17:59
  I'm not clairvoyant. It's just a trick.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's just that you go into these subjects without these preconceived notions and you just naturally find the truth in things.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: You you have to get out of yourself. You have to leave your own cultures cultural prejudices and assumptions behind. Yeah. You really have to try to strip yourself of those things.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Alright. So we're gonna now hop over to Rise TV for q and a. I also want to once we get over there, I want to talk to you a little more about China and specifically these videos that we're see coming out of China with these what look like concentration camps, shipping shipping container fields of what look like small prisons. So I want to get your thoughts on that and what that means if that's some sort of part of the war preparation, etc.
• 1:18:44
  But we've also got a lot of questions that are pouring in from people that are watching. So folks, if you want to come join that q and a with us, there's a link for a free trial for Rise TV in the description below. It's an amazing streaming platform. We've got a lot of amazing content. Plus I also published Deep Insight with Man in America though, which is a fully produced series that you can only watch over on Rise TV.
• 1:19:06
  I hope you come join us and we'll get into the questions over there. So Dom, you can go ahead and cut the public streams.