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Gratitude, One Thing at a Time · In Moderation

• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: Were you licking your microphone just now?
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_03: That's what it looked like.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_03: Sticking my tongue out.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_03: Getting some tongue exercises.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Inmoderation, where we're all getting our tongue exercises out.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_03: Bao Mau Bao Cow.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_03: You guys ever watch Anchorman?
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_03: I like that movie.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_03: That's one of my favorite movies.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_03: Second one, not as good.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_03: Had a few good parts.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_03: First one, classic, one of my favorites.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_03: I haven't seen the second.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_03: You don't really need to see the second.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's got a few really funny parts, but mostly like just watch the first one.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's good.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_03: The chicken of the cave is really the only funny part.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe not the only funny part, but it's one of the funny parts to Anchorman 2.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_03: Chicken of the Cave, man.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_03: They're serving mat he's serving bat meat.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_03: He's just like, it's chicken of the cave, man.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_03: That's the that part.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_03: I like that part.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_03: That's funny.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, how are you guys?
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: Do we combine that with lava chicken?
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_03: What the hell is lava chicken?
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, okay.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_03: From the Minecraft movie?
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I haven't seen the Minecraft movie.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's going around.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, so that's when people throw shit in the theater?
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes, that's where you exactly.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll put on Anchorman 2, and then that scene comes on, we play Lava Chicken, everybody at the theater, everyone wins.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: Except for the people that no, no, no.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_03: Ours meme is when that comes on, you clean your house.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_03: Because we're supposed to do good shit.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_03: So it's not that we don't make things dirty.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_03: When that comes on, then you go around and clean your house.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_03: Boom.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_03: Meme started, and it's for positive.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_03: Memes are rarely positive, but this time from in the moderation, it will be.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: And speaking of positivity, we have on today, Today I Am Grateful.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: David, would you like to introduce yourself?
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: Because we absolutely suck at introducing people.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_05: I'd be happy to.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_05: My name is David, uh, also known as Today I Am Grateful, or sometimes the Grateful Guy, and been operating the Today I Am Grateful social media channels now for a little over two years.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: What are we grateful for today?
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_05: So today I am grateful for really nice weather.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_05: The finally dropped down was like a high of 70 today, and it's about time.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_05: I'm ready for the fall weather.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_05: It's a little bit more.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, it has been so unseasonably hot in Canada.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_05: I was looking at being last year, and this time last year, all the trees had changed colors.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_05: Um, the weather was already cold and whatever, and this year it's like we're just now getting down into cooler weather.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_03: And then Liam is freezing, so it's I'm out on a patio because my daughter finally got to kick out of the house.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_03: I am very this Airbnb that my head just hits the ceiling in multiple places.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's not fun.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_03: And now I'm on a cold patio trying to record a podcast.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_03: Life, I'm great.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm grateful for?
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_03: But the fact that I'm moving into my new house tomorrow.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_03: Thank God.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_03: When you hear when you listen to this, I will be in my house and I will that's just gonna be the best thing ever.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of people who are, you know, they they don't like the fact that they're shorter on the shorter side.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: Be grateful you're not Liam.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_01: Because I mean, look at these problems.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not that I'm like 6'3, so like I'm taller, but I'm not like you know.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_03: What's funny is in that video, I'm hitting my head on the um the ceiling in the bathroom because the bathroom is tiny.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I'm in a Japanese bathroom.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_03: I'm hunched over like the hunchback of Notre Dame trying to take a shower.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_03: And I did a video of it, and people are like, How tall are you?
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_03: And I just keep saying like 7'1 or 6'9 or whatever it is.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: And just making shit, just making up numbers.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_03: I've had friends like who've uh like a mutual sort of like, how tall are you?
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like seven two, and they're like, dude, you play basketball.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, nah, I'm just fucking with you.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not even that tall.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_03: This is just funny.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I it's it's a good, it's a good time.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_03: Lying about things is really fun.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_03: I highly recommend it.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_03: No, officer, I don't know anything about that.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would I would have uh believed all those lies, but I've seen a picture of you beside Mike Bridgen.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: So unless you're both lying.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and Mike was like, oh Mike's also on the taller side, he's like 6'3, so we're like talking to people, and and people like other people are kind of just like, wait, what the fuck?
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_03: You guys are tall?
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_03: I thought you guys were short, like, no, we're tall.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_03: It's weird, right?
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, whatever.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, David, how'd you get into being grateful for things?
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_03: Were you just tired of being annoyed by things?
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_03: And you're like, let's flip it around, let's try something new.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm guessing.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_05: You know, there's actually a lot to that.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_05: A lot of people like, why are you happy all the time?
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, because personally I don't like being unhappy.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_05: Like, that's I guess some people do, but no, it really started for me, actually.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I had gone through a really difficult time in life mental health-wise.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_05: And uh, I'm naturally a very positive person, I'm very optimistic.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_05: They tease me at work all the time because I'm the guy that's like, we're gonna give it a try at this night.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_05: And they're like, it's not going to happen.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, I am aware there's a 3% chance, but there's a 3% chance.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_05: Like, okay, so so you're the guy there was like, shut up, David.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, but we're gonna give it a try.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I don't get discouraged because I never expected it to work anyway, but I'm gonna give it a try.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_05: So that's naturally me.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_05: And I'd gone through a time where I really lost all of that and was nothing but critical and negative, and I'm naturally very analytical, so that negative mental energy attached to my analytical side, and it was just really, really not good.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_05: Like there wasn't a positive thought running through my head for a long time.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_05: And a friend of mine, thank the Lord for friends, came in my office one day, just looked me dead in the face and said, Are you okay?
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_05: And I said, No, I'm not.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_05: And he goes, I didn't think so.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_05: He said, You look like where I was about a year and a half ago.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_05: He had gone through a similar time, and so he kind of became my unofficial therapist in helping me work back through all the things.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_05: And the crazy thing is both he and I um have worked with college students for years, and so we're doing this type of coaching with other people, and so he's saying to me, he's like, I know you know these things, but when we get in a bad spot, we forget them.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_05: So he went through, we have like a checklist that we use and like, how are you doing in these areas of life?
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm like failing on 75% of them.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_03: Can you give us some of those here?
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't know what's happening.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: Hold on.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: Before before you you do that, Mike Pridgin.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: I know you're listening.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: You did this on purpose.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: You you booked this guest on purpose.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_01: I know it.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Mike.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_05: I would not put that past him.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so so we ran through these items, and I'm like just failing all over the place.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_05: And I knew that.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_05: And he's like, no judgment.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I know you know all those things, but they're some of the first things to go.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_05: And it's basic.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_05: The crazy thing is, functional, like at its core, functional mental health starts with really, really basic stuff.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_05: So it's, you know, are you hydrated?
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_05: Are you eating properly?
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_05: Not just, you know, not eating or trashy eating, whatever.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_05: Are you eating properly?
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_05: Are you getting exercise on any sort of regular basis?
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_05: What is your sleep schedule look like?
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, those types of things.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_05: What do you do for any type of restorative practices, be that prayer, you know, devotional reading or meditation, like any of those kind of things?
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_05: Just start walking through these things.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_03: And you were like, I don't drink, I only eat honey buns, and I sit on the couch.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_05: I was getting about that bad.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm showing up to work every day, and I knew I wasn't, you know, in my best place functionally.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm like doing the doing the things, but I knew I wasn't in a good spot.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_05: But one of those things that's in our list is intentional positive thinking or gratitude.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_05: And not one that I mean, if you would ask anybody about me, it would be like, that's never something you have to check up on David about.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_05: But uh that was something we needed to check up on David about.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_05: So he, like I said, kind of became my unofficial therapist, started checking in with me regularly.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_05: Really, really appreciate him.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_05: Like his influence was the turning point in my life.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_05: And I've worked with people before that do this, so I knew I was in for a long haul.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like minimum three months that I'm gonna be working back toward a good place because I've been wearing myself down for over six.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_05: And as I was working through that, one of the areas I was really struggling with that bothered me a lot because I'm naturally optimistic was that I just that optimism was gone.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_05: And frankly, a lot of my natural what I would consider my natural personal skills and abilities were gone, and that was terrifying.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't know you could lose those.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but I had.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_05: So I decided, I'm like, okay, read the research, all this intentional gratitude stuff.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_05: So I decided I'm gonna do this.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_05: Like, okay.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_05: So I got my gratitude journal, a nice faux leather um paper journal.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I'm gonna start writing down three things I'm grateful for every day, you know, meditate on that, get this stuff in my head and whatever.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_05: And I failed miserably, absolutely bombed that assignment and discovered that the very idea of trying to come up with three things to be grateful for was triggering anxiety, which is what I've been dealing with.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_05: I feel that like just anxiety was was my issue more than depression, and so it's triggering anxiety to like have to like do this thing.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, okay, I feel like somehow I'm defeating the purpose here.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_05: So one day I'm just like, forget it.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_05: We're not doing three things, I I'm gonna do one thing.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_05: Like, that's hard enough for me right now.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_05: I can't think of a single thing to be grateful for.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I am going to pick one thing and just repeat that thing to myself all day long.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_05: Like, throw out the rules, like all the experts say three things, and the more involved it is, the better, whatever.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_05: Like, forget it all, throw out all the rules and I'll do one thing.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_05: Honestly, that was hard enough for me at that point, way hard enough for me.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_05: But as I started doing that, uh, I think it was within two weeks I had actually started noticing a change in my thinking patterns, where it was starting to become more positive.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_05: And the big kicker for me was I love to go jogging.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_05: That's like one of my exercises of choice because I can think and get exercise and release stress and one of those runners.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_03: We've talked many times about how I I think in one video I said I'd rather sandpaper my taint than go for a run.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_03: And people are like, what?
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_03: I don't like running at all.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_03: I really don't, unless there's a ball involved that I need some kind of sport or activity that gets me to from here to there, a reason.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_03: I I don't like the running very much.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_05: But we will just we will remember that and just throw a soccer ball at you anytime.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_05: I need something.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_03: Damn, give me a squirrel.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_03: I'll chase I'll chase chipmunks before anyway.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean, no, because I wanted to say I was thinking of something like you were saying, like you didn't realize how much like your mental health had like taken a toll, right?
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that kind of happens to a lot of people with a lot of different things.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_03: So we hear it all the time with um people gaining weight or something like that.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's a pound here, a pound there, they don't realize, and then kind of one day they wake up and like, oh wow, I just I had I had weighed myself, I didn't realize how much weight I gained.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_03: And I think it kind of happens with a lot of things.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_03: Mental health is like one of those, just like every day kind of becomes your new normal, and like a little bit at a time before it takes a moment like that, like you were talking about before.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_03: You're like, oh shit.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I didn't even realize, right?
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_05: Like, it takes one of those moments for you to like come to that realization, and often it it helps if somebody else steps in and helps you realize that, which you know, be that your scales or a friend, like yeah, I think it kind of is true.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_05: I'd run myself and like looking back on it now, I can see it more, but you don't pay attention to it when you're doing it just little by little, right?
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_05: I had run myself completely past all reserves, and then one day the straw broke the camel's back, and it just there wasn't anything left to draw on.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_03: Would you recommend then for people to kind of try and stay on top of things then?
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_03: Like having some sort of like checklist or something that you kind of run through or something like that to make sure you kind of stay on the right path?
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so I actually like I I will I give paper checklists, sometimes I have it a spreadsheet form too of the basic things, but honestly, having a friend that can help you kind of monitor your life, because you will still lie to yourself on the checklist.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you're not actually real great at evaluating yourself.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_05: So having somebody else that can do that, be it a therapist or even just a friend that you have a regular check-in with, you know, it's we have this thing in runner's circles.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_05: I I I I know you guys don't have to deal with it at all in the other side, but the other thing in runner's circles is if you run with somebody else, you tend to run longer because you know that that POL motivation.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_05: And I think that's true in most workout physical exercise and and even in other areas.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and I think it's true in mental health too.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_05: If you have somebody to, you know, quote, work out with in mental health, it helps keep you on track.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, one of the things I've always said is um one of the most powerful things you can do for somebody who's going through a rough time is just to be there.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_05: For sure.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_05: And you never know um what people are going through.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_05: You know, we'll just pick on Liam for a second.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, people look at it.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_05: Liam can't hear us.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: He's uh I wish I could be like I can hear you.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_03: I we were making sure the dogs get because the food is in the car, and I have to run out and get it and bring it back in to make sure the dogs eat.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_03: Because you know what they didn't eat enough of the trash when we came home.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_03: It was just everywhere.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_03: That was another thing.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm grateful for?
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_03: Trash being all over my floor after my dogs get into it, and there's just little mini Twix bars and coffee grounds everywhere.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: See, that's so grateful.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_05: Literally just made my point for me, so thank you.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_05: What I'm saying is people look at Liam's the look at Liam's Instagram and they're like, Man, I want to be like Liam.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_05: I want my life to be like Liam's.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_05: And Liam's like, dude, I am dealing with every single real life problem that you are dealing with, except I'm got them all in one week.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_05: Like it feels like I came home and my dogs have trashed things out.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_05: My house moving got postponed, and I'm doing a podcast from a freezing front porch in my air because I'm not sure.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_03: I'm dealing with all the human shit.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I try like I should probably even do it more in videos, but I do try in videos to show, like, hey, this ain't fucking I ain't fancy, man.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't I deal with all the stuff that like everybody else deals with.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_03: I make all the mistakes that people are making.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's what people like my cooking videos, because I fuck up so much shit like constantly.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, they're like I I do something, they're like, you're not supposed to do that, you're supposed to.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, listen, I don't know, man.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not a chefologist, I don't know how any of this works.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_03: I just put things in other things and I hope they turn into food.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's also why you uh kept your well, not necessarily kept, but you didn't care about all the the mess behind you while we were recording.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, that's just that's there, it's life.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, people would be like, There's a pile of laundry.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, there is a pile of laundry.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I haven't done it since fucking January to deal with it.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I gotta I'm trying I'm keeping my head above water here, man.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to do everything I can, but it's it's rough.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_05: So that's I'm I really think that this is an important thing for people to hear because I mean there's the always been the running joke of like the Instagram life and the Instagram story, and you know, the people that have that have film in that one perfect section of their house on how to do home decor, and then if they are ever kind of they usually have like a block of like a week or a month where they just have everything perfectly set up and they film all of their content right then and then then spread it out.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I've heard some people I've heard some people get Airbnbs just so that they uh you know have a clean house to film their content at.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_05: So maybe that's actually what's going on with Liam.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: Oh I would not be paying for that.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_03: Are you kidding me?
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna pay money to have a clean room.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_03: I run.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: Paid money to hit his head on the ceiling every time he cooks.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_03: The bathroom, oh my god, everything is just it's this and like I don't know why sound carries more in this place, but like, you know, any little sound will wake her up and she doesn't, the daughter doesn't sleep well already.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, we're all dealing with that shit.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: And I know it's super easy to look at, yeah.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like the Instagram pictures, I think we're getting a little better at it.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_03: I think humans are getting a little better at that, and more videos are going viral of people showing their lives in a complete fucking disarray where just everything's messed up, and we're all like, yeah, that's where we're at.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we need to kind of see that because I think it's it's more realistic, right?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_05: Well, real life is real for everybody, and I've gotten several comments like that for my channel because generally my content's very positive because the whole point is something that we can be grateful for today.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_05: And they're like, Man, like you've got the most wonderful life ever because you always have something to be grateful for.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, absolutely not.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_05: Like, let me tell you again about where this practice started.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, in the worst place I have ever been in my life.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_05: It's actually when life is rough that you need the challenge to intentionally focus on something positive.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_05: And so, yeah, I mean, I've got the same life that everybody else is dealing with, dealing with all of the things, but I've tried to train myself out of the negative thinking to be like, okay, my dogs just trashed this entire house.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_05: But I loved my dogs, yeah.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: And so I found for my dogs, and I found all the little twicks.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: I got little spun-sized twicks everywhere.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_03: Now I get to pick one up and eat it, which I did.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: I picked it up, I ate it, and I stared at the trash at my feet.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I did.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_03: I was just like, okay.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: You should have got down on your knees and just looked your dog right in the eye and ate it.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, right.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: I would get slobber all over my face.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_03: They would just come up and be like, oh, great, that's exactly what I but getting back to you today.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: You wanted to get back to you said you had to find one thing, right?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_03: You were like, I need to find one thing that's positive.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_03: So what what what what did you find?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_03: Besides was it the weather?
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: Was it what did you find that was?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_05: No, today was the weather, yes.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_05: But but the one that really sticks in my mind where like something started changing in my brain, was I had been like I would go on my run, and that's you know, when thoughts always run, and they had been those for months, just constantly negative.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_05: I was coming up with I mean, just analyzing everything, all the things that could go wrong, like all of that.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_05: That's what was happening on my runs, which is sort of defeating the whole stress-relieving purpose.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_05: And I was on this run, and a absolutely beautiful blue bird.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_05: I have never seen one like that before or since.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_05: It was not a blue bird, it was like iridescent blue, little teeny guy flew across the road that I was running.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_05: And I was like, man, that's really cool.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_05: Like, that's a beautiful bird.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_05: And that that was like the thing that stuck.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, I can be grateful that I saw that bird today.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_05: Like, as so small and as so minor as that was, when I was living in a dark and negative space in my head, a flash of beautiful color in nature was like huge to me.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_05: And so that was the entire rest of the day was I am grateful for that bird, and that I got to see that bird on my run today.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: So about a figurative spark that lights the fire.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_05: So about two weeks later, something like that, it may have been a little bit longer.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_05: I was on a run, and kind of right at the beginning, there was something that was like, oh, that's something I could do.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_05: I could put in my gratitude journal.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's something like the whole run ended up that way.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_05: Like all of a sudden, it was like, whoa, my brain is rewiring to look for the positive and start marking these positive things because it was looking for something to fill in that gratitude journal and the and the vlogs that I was doing at that point.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_05: So honestly, and I let me just jump to that real quick.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_05: I never could get a paper journal to work.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_05: I could not, it just wasn't working.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_05: I could not stick with it.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_05: So the whole the whole social media channel started with this thought that I'm like, if I do this on TikTok as a video every day and commit that I'm like to the whoever the you know four viewers are that I'm gonna do this every day, like maybe that will provide like the motivation accountability I needed.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_05: And it absolutely did, totally worked.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_05: As soon as I started doing it on TikTok, I was consistent every single day.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_03: And I that happens to a lot of people with like their weight loss journey, you know, or they're trying to like you know lose with their weight loss journey or their health journey or whatever it is.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_03: Like they're like, I'm gonna record myself.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna record myself walking in my apartment because that's all I can do.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just gonna walk in my apartment, and that gives them accountability and they keep going.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_03: So I think it's just whatever it is, like you're recording yourself, you're like, Well, I've I started it, I'm gonna fucking keep going.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I go mostly out of spite, that's what works for me.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like, a pure spite is just there's no drive like that.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_03: I am I gonna let my haters win.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: Get the fuck out of here.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_03: No, I need to prove them wrong, and that is why I continue.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: Liam is grateful for his haters.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: I am great, I am very grateful for my haters.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_05: I am actually greater for my grateful for my haters as well.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_05: There's really cool stories there if we want to jump into that later.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_05: So, yeah, that was that was the thing.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, I was stuck in TikTok jail for the majority of the time.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_05: We got 200, 300 views, but it was it was already kind of blowing my mind.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_05: Like I was doing this for me because I just needed it.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, man, there's like 200 other people that saw today the choice that I'm making to focus on something positive.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_05: Like, that's cool.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_05: And if it's all if it's 200, like if never more than 200, like, hey, that's 200 people.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_05: Like, there's a positive impact there.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_05: And after, again, like I said, I knew it was gonna be several months.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_05: So after like two or three months, I was really doing much better mental health-wise.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_05: I was getting back to my old self and whatever.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_05: But I had seen so much like extremely obvious positive results from what I was doing with the gratitude practice.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, I'm just gonna keep doing this because the way I got in this mess in the first place was like, I'm doing fine.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_05: I don't need to do these things on my checklist anymore.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, start coasting.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_05: But so I just decided I was gonna stick with it.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_05: And somewhere uh six more than I've been doing it more than six months, every day for more than six months, with stuck in TikTok jail.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_05: All of a sudden, I had a video that just absolutely went viral, and followers started piling up and all this stuff, and I'm getting messages from people and be like, it's crazy.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_05: I had hit a nerve of other people that were in a similar place to where I had been, and they're like, I just needed something simple.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_05: Like, one thing, I mean, a lot of my videos are six seconds long.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_05: It's like you do not have to read the motivational journal for today that's a 15-minute this thing, and then that and that and the others, like just something trigger something to break that negative pattern in your mind and then repeat it.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_05: And it is now grown crazy, you know, across the channels.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_05: I'm you know, hundreds of thousands of followers and messages from people all over the world saying, like, this has meant so much to me in helping me in my mental health journey and overcoming my negative thinking and make change, which is just I love it.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I love seeing that impact on other people.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_05: And I know, I mean, I happen to know that you guys have both done that for others in your in your own journeys as well.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_05: And it's just a beautiful thing when especially when you're the one healing and you see how your healing and your own personal growth is also benefiting others.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_05: I just think that's beautiful.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_03: Just something, yeah.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_03: I think like you were saying, just something small that's like positive for people to pick up on.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_03: So, do you recommend kind of doing the same thing to other for when people like ask?
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_03: Like start to kind of start a journal, start with just one thing positive.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think that's that's good to start with one thing positive?
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_05: And so far as I know, I'm literally the only person that that is that that recommends one.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_05: Because all the science, I mean, you go read all the studies, all the science says three, like three is the minimum, and the more detailed the thing that you write, the better the impact.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, there the the science is not much but reality, yeah.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: Cause like yeah, every time it comes up for me, because yeah, I I go through a lot of stuff, and it's always you know, well, what are these things that you're grateful for?
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: And you always have to think of these grandiose things.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay, my finances suck, my dad's health is bad, I literally just got a death threat on the weekend.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody's like I could be trying.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but instead of like thinking of all that stuff, just something simple, some simple little thing, right?
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: I can be grateful today that I have a friend like Mike.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_03: We should we all have to be grateful for Mike.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: We have to tell him we do.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_03: We're all grateful for him.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_03: Mike needs some gratefulness.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_03: Mike Mike needs some gratitude.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_05: I need some gratitude.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_05: No, this is where we plug.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_05: Everybody go follow Mike Bridgeon and send him a message.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody listening, bombard Mike's Mike's I need a plan.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: Or Mike needs a plan.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um bombard him with his comments with Mike needs gratitude.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think so?
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_03: When you're talking about just one thing, so do you do that per day, or you just kind of like you wake up, you go for you do your run, or if you're me, anything but run, and then you you think about something that would be, you know, like that's just something positive.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_05: Let me say that.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's generally the thing.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_05: And then I especially when I started, it's become much easier now that like I'm in a much better place.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_05: But for people who started, that's what it was.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_05: I would pick pick one thing, and then I would have to tell myself that I wasn't allowed to try to add more because like that I was almost a little bit like obsessive, like my anxiety and my analytical nature had like combined to become like obsessive in a negative way.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_05: So then it was like the rules are just one thing.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_05: So as soon as you've got that one thing in the morning, you just repeat that to yourself all day long.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_05: So my goal was like a dozen times throughout the day, you know, once every regular waking hour of the day or something like that.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_05: Just put that thought back in my mind.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_05: And I'll tell you, this is a technique, free technique for everybody.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_05: One of my favorites if you are in a difficult spot, because it actually combines two things at once, and that is using physical objects around you as the things you're grateful for.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_05: And why does this work so well?
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_05: Because it is literally the practice of grounding that you use to recover from anxiety attacks and different things like that.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_05: You literally are doing grounding and gratitude at exactly the same time.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_03: So, like I would be grateful for these giant crayons that my daughter picks up.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_05: How many giant crayons do you have there that you're grateful for?
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_03: I I don't know how to count.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_03: Like Oakley's teaching me, but I have you can only count to four.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but there's there's at least four there.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I'll tell you what I'm not grateful for is the train that you guys are about to hear.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: I heard it.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you heard it.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_03: You got a train?
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe that's what cut my signal for.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: The train's coming through.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, breaking lamb over here.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_05: So we'll be grateful for the train.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, Oakley picked out giant crayons, and I was like, get the free cameo on this podcast.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_03: Brig, you can get some giant crayons.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_03: She likes she loves to draw.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_03: I'm happy, I'm grateful for my daughter drawing with giant crayons.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_05: And that's just such a cool thing.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_05: As a parent, like that might not mean as much to other people, but as a parent, that can be something that really warms your heart.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_03: She picks out one colour and she's like, oh, next color, next color.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_03: And before you know it, it's just just everything.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, perfect.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: That uh I'll take any, you know, with her.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: There goes on the fridge.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: On to the next thing.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_03: Whatever keeps her interested for more than five seconds.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, totally, let's do that thing.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_05: So we have this cool thing in our house that all of our exterior doors are metal doors.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_05: And we have three exterior doors, which means we have a lot more space than just the fridge that we can put paint and put pictures and things up with magnets.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: So you're grateful for more space to hang things.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_03: So do you recommend then for other people that works?
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like I guess journaling it out, writing it down, spreadsheets, Google Docs, like you know, just whatever works.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_05: Literally, whatever works for you.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_05: And that's I think this that is kind of the biggest thing I want to get across to people is you can get the science and know what the right thing to do is, but if it isn't working for you, it's completely defeating the purpose for its existence.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_05: So figure out what's what works well for you.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_03: A calendar, and then for each day you write just one word that like relates to that thing, like bird crayon or something like that for each thing.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_03: That would be really cool to look back on, like you know, in moderation.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_03: In moderation.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_03: Here's just grateful for you know whatever it is, chips.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: I love chips, you know.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_03: I think one that went crazy viral near the beginning was muffins.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_05: Like I am grateful for muffins, and apparently millions of other people were too.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_03: That's interesting.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_03: It's always social media is a weird game, man.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_03: You never know.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_03: You just throw shit out there, and you you know.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_03: I went first viral for um diet so.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_03: Artificial sweeteners.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_03: That's pretty much how it always goes for me.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_03: Just to fucking always like aspartame.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_03: So then I started doing tons of videos and I became like the aspartame guy.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_03: It was very dumb, but I was like, whatever, it's working.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's what people want to hear talk about.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: Also the anti-Bobby guy.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_05: So I watched some of your videos where you're defending the artificial sweeteners.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but I didn't see any specifically about aspartame.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_05: So let's have the conversation because it's fun.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I are you defending aspartame?
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_03: I love aspartame.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's one of my favorite things.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's makes diet soda sweet and tasty, and it has basically zero calories.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_03: Technically, it has the same number of calories as sugar per gram, but it's 200 times sweeter.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_03: So you use like a few yeah, AK myself.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_03: I will I will you blend them together in zero sugar.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_03: That's what zero sugar is.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_03: It has ice K and aspartame, and then you get more of a real sugar taste.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_03: And that's why a lot of people prefer uh zero sugar.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_03: But some people still like diet because they just like the taste of aspartame, which hey, you know, I'm not here to yuck your yum, whatever works.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_03: So are we gonna just ignore the laxative effect?
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: Lax I've never had a laxative effect of aspartame.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_02: Seriously.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_03: I this is something I've heard the migraines.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_03: People say they give some migraines, but I've not heard a laxative effect from aspartame.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I uh I personally don't like the taste of aspartame.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_05: I can I can taste it and I don't care for it.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_05: Sweeten is sure, but not the taste, but it does have a specific taste for sure.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_05: And I've talked to it's I'm pretty sure that it's sort of like generally recognized that at least for a number of people, it has stupid internet um laxative effects.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_05: So we had this bad choice one time where we got a bunch of flavored, sweetened flavored water uh in and like just cases that were donated, and so we had large groups of people that were just knocking down like five of these a day.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_05: Needless to say, that that didn't go well.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_05: So anyway, I was curious about that.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: I think Liam's just kind of we've we've we've broke Liam.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: We've broke Liam.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: I actually uh wanted to go look at what the uh the mechanism behind it was.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_05: I'll be curious on that.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh a very a very quick search.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_05: What's your favorite artificial screen?
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh no specific research has determined whether aspartame causes stuff.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_05: Interesting.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um but there are it it is uh reported effects.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_05: So that would be an interesting study.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's probably would presumably just be something to do with uh differences with how you d uh absorb it.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: And probably well, if it's causing a laxative effect, it would be the inability to absorb it.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_05: Now there's a study for you.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_05: This is gonna be this is gonna be a new episode for Liam in the future.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: I think we broke Liam.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_05: We broke him.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_05: Like, do some people not ha have a poor ability to absorb aspartame?
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_05: Totally possible.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, the gut's fun like that.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know, some people have no trouble with things, other people just goes right out of them.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: Then there's you know, Liam over here, you'll eat 200 grams of fiber a day, no problem.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, he and I are both high on the uh the fiber intake, and we always tell people we we got there over time, right?
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't uh we just jumped into it.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's from us having eaten a lot of fiber over time.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: And most people, you know, have struggled to get like just eight grams, ten grams of fiber a day, and we're telling them increase it slowly.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think we restored Liam.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_05: What'd you find, Liam?
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe not.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_05: Nope, he's gone.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: No, we completely broke him.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_05: I uh this is my official apology to Liam.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_05: I never meant to insult an artificial sweetener in such a way that hurt his feelings.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: He hurt his feelings so much he just quit the podcast.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you you you'll get to walk away from this podcast officially as the one guy that made Liam quit.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: Today I am grateful I made Liam quit.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_05: And then we're going to have a post from Liam soon that is like my rebuttal against the today I am grateful guys dreadful accusation against artificial.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_04: It's like, well, I will just say from my own personal experience, that's a sweetener I need to avoid.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: That's fair enough.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, there's also people that need to avoid uh aspartame because they have uh that one condition that I can't remember off the top of top of my head where they uh now it's it's like phenyl key.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh PKU Yeah, PKU, PKU, yeah.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah Yeah.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um where they get uh too much phenylalanine.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: And like that's fair.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's there's people that have to avoid it.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_05: That actually runs in my family.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_05: To be clear, I have been tested and I don't have it, but it would be interesting to see if then there are certain tendencies that go along with that.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, I have relatives with yeah with PKU, and yeah, aspartame drill bad for that.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_01: For me, I can't stand the taste of stevia.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_05: Really?
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I like stevia, but it is it is a taste, like it is a taste, and it's a taste that so I'm what they call a super taster.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and like I can taste it's amazing.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the best uh example of this was I was when I was in uh the Amazon doing volunteer work, and we were going around and we were uh just picking fruit for lunch and stuff, and we'd get to new ones and the guide would be like here, everybody taste this.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_01: And there was one I don't remember what it was called, but it everyone passed it around, took a bite, and they were like, Well, this just tastes like water.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it got to me, and I took a bite, and I was like, Oh my god, that's the most bitter thing I've ever tasted.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about?
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: It just tastes like water.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_05: So your taste palette is significantly broader than the average person sounds like.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_05: And it sucks.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_05: It would, because then like stuff that is in foods, you're noticing that the people who made it are like, yeah, nobody'll notice that.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_01: And one of the most prominent tastes is bitterness.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: So I can really taste the bitterness in things.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_05: What a fantastic taste to have like an extra sense for.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: What an excess X and superpower right there, right?
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_03: Hello, everyone.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm currently brought to you by my bathroom, the one that is tiny, that I had to try and come into the Airbnb to get closer to the Wi-Fi network and hide.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_03: Hopefully, I don't wake up vocally.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we just assumed that uh you left the show because of you know insults against Aspirtame.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_03: I thought, yeah, no, the Aspirtame got me because I'm sponsored by Aspirtame.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_03: You remember, like, you know the like where the hook when people are out on stage and they grab they have the hook and they just pull them off stage?
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: That's what Aspirtame just did to me.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_05: So Rob looked it up real quick, and it is an undetermined but sometimes commented on a few.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_05: Interesting.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_01: I've not heard this.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: Today we learned.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_05: Today we learned.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_05: And so this is a completely random aside, but um we're good at completely random asides.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we worked with a flavoring company for a while, um, and I learned that when they make um well, both artificial and natural flavorings, because the difference between those is actually pretty small, um that they will intentionally add in other things to the flavors to mess up the machines that their competitors use to like reverse engineer the flavorings that they use.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, interesting.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_05: That makes sense.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_05: The majority of people cannot taste the other things that they add to mess up those machines.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_05: But I wonder if Rob can and does on a regular basis.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's an excellent question.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I have no comparison point as to what things taste like to everybody else.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you wouldn't know.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they must add things that have like no well, that's interesting.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_05: It is there's a lot of like weird crazy things, and I don't want to reveal any light.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think they're industry secret.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_03: She's just walking by and cracking up.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the Wi-Fi out there um doesn't work as well.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_03: So I just gotta go.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, and the light out there is super.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the light out there was super bright into her window, and she also can't use the AC because it's also hot in here.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's cold out there, hot in here.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_03: Everything's great, everything's so awesome.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: You can go turn the light off and turn your AC on if you want.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_03: That's fine.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'll just hide in the bathroom.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_03: I'll just she's crazy.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_05: She's losing the happiest family when you finally get in your new house.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_03: Tomorrow.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_03: Tomorrow, tomorrow when you get there.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just close the door.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_03: Just I'll just be in the dark.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's fine.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_03: My I'll be like Bane.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'll come from the dark, or whatever he says.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_03: I don't remember.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_03: You know, uh Batman something.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_03: I was born in the dark.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_03: I was born in the dark.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_03: That's what it is.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_03: I got it.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_03: Get there.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_03: That's yeah, that's where I'm at.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, that's what I'm grateful for.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_03: The the getting out of here and being in the house tomorrow.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_03: What's everybody else grateful for today, besides muffins?
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, definitely always muffins.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, just shut it.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'll be in the dark.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_03: Just shut it.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's fine.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_03: No, just shut it.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_03: Just shut it.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there we go.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_03: Now I'm in the dark.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_03: Perfect.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_03: There we go.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: Everything's great.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_05: And and we are already uh mutually grateful with you for your new move in tomorrow.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: That sounds absolutely brilliant.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_02: Holy shit.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but some days are hard.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_05: Like, and you people ask you ask me that, like, so you know, what do you do when you're having a hard day?
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_05: Like, do you still have days where it's hard to think of things?
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's like really crazy how the brain does that because on days, most days I could give you 10.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_05: Like, does it's so easy?
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and then there's just a day that like I can't come up with anything because you know, like you were saying, Rob, like so many things are going wrong all at once, and like your brain just shifts there.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_05: And I but I think that's actually the power of gratitude and of positive thinking is your brain has trouble doing both at the same time.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_05: It it can, but it has trouble doing that.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_05: And so if you're stuck in the negative and you start inserting positive, literally anything, if it's just one thing and it's this blue bird, or it's well, yeah.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_03: What do you recommend for people to get to the positive?
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_03: Just go outside, go for a walk, look for something.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_05: Look around you.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_05: Literally, just look around you.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_05: We as humans, we do this thing where stuff that we appreciate, we keep around us.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_05: And so most people, if you're sitting in your house, there are five things around you that you're grateful for, like right now.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_05: At least five.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_05: Now you're in the bathroom.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_03: I'm in the bathroom in the dark, so I can't see anything.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_03: If you're sitting on the toilet, that's a thing you're grateful for because even if you're alone in the dark in your own bathroom with the door shut, you can find something.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_05: It's true.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, there's there is always something, but the challenge is is here.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_05: Um and working through that.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_05: So I mean, I am like, no judgment for anybody who's struggling with that because I've been there as much as anybody else has.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and again, having a community is great.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_05: So, you know, some days I jump on and look at comments that other people have made on my posts of things they're grateful for because I needed that.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_05: That's nice.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_05: And forever, there's people making comments about stuff I've never thought of before in my life.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so my favorite, all of a sudden, one day, um I realized I had never done a grateful video for glasses.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_05: That's fine.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_05: I am absolutely dependent on my glasses.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_05: Like that's every single video I have ever made.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, every single video I've ever made, I was looking through my glasses to make that video, and it never crossed my mind to be thankful for my glasses.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_05: I'm legally blind without them.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_05: Like it's something, so many things we just take so for granted.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_05: It just seems so normal to us, we never think to do it.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_05: So, you know, the big I think one of the big things with me on today I'm grateful is there is nothing too silly or and nothing too small to be grateful for.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_05: And just eliminating that, because I think a lot of it is just we have this self-imposed embarrassment of like, oh, that's a dumb thing, or people will think that's stupid, um, or that's cringe.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_05: Fine, I don't care.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_05: Like, that's okay.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_05: Because any like literally anything and stuff that that one person finds just really cool, other people may not find cool.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_05: Fine.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm grateful for the wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man because I've never not looked at one of those and smiled.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_03: Every time I've seen a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man, I always smile.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I like that.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_05: They make mini ones that run on USB.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_05: You should probably get one.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_03: I would totally I should get one of those.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_03: That would be really just it's just in there just the whole time.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_03: I'd be too disturbing.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: Just in the background of your video, another talking point, another eye catch.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_03: People are gonna stop asking about my shirts and start asking about the wacky waving and flat alarm, flatily two band in the background.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm curious, Rob, you mentioned some of the things that I don't know how current the all those things are that you mentioned when things are kind of going on.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_05: Very current.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_05: Very current.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_05: All right.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_05: What have you done to keep yourself in a positive space while dealing with all that stuff in life?
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_01: I have a cat.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_05: There you go.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_05: Cat's good.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_05: For real.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_03: For real.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_01: But also surrounding myself with excellent people helps.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like Matt, like Mike needs a plan.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_03: Everyone go over and show Mike's like oh shit.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_03: I just hitting the wall with my elbow.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_03: This is great.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm doing awesome.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_03: Don't mind me.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_03: You guys go ahead.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, it was um it's been a very, very dark year for me.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_01: And even just this.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just uh right.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_03: You got your window smashed in.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: Literally have somebody running around saying it had apparently has a death threat against me.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_05: What in the world?
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's I um apparently I'm hacking his internet.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, you really should stop doing that.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe there's some like I would love to stop doing that if I even knew who the fuck he was.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's just uh he showed up uh like I it it was uh the roommate um got the door.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_01: He showed up the other on Sunday and he was just drugged out and just screaming and uh looking for the previous guy that lived here as well uh and when the roommate said um yeah, he doesn't live here anymore, it's me and Rob.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Oh, Rob, that guy, tell him I'm gonna fucking kill him.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: I've just tell him to stop hacking my internet.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_03: Man.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_03: Hey kids, don't do drugs.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: I came and smashed my truck.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_03: I don't, oh god.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_03: Don't do drugs.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_03: So that's our smash truck.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_03: Great.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's yeah, that's rough.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it's uh and then you know, dealing with my dad's health on top of everything and finances, and now I've now instead of uh fixing my teeth, I get to fix my truck.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: But it all comes down to um you know animal assisted therapy for me is a huge thing.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, huge thing.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_01: Love having cat.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_01: It it's I I wasn't joking about that.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_01: And then like being able to touch base with Liam and Mike and Adam and um and James as well.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: James checks in on me once in a while as well.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's good.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's been yeah, it's it's the people.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_03: Right, because being isolated in Canada up there, you know, not too many people sucks.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_01: It also yeah, and then I've been I stream on Twitch and I get to chat with some people there and stuff, and that's nice.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's life is not easy, like it's just not.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_05: And those questions are like how do you just keep putting one foot in front of the other?
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_05: Of course, I've never been in a situation where I've had an active death threat against me.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_05: That's sort of a whole new level of things.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um I sleep with my knife under my bed now and my axe near the door.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and sometimes, and I think that's that's part of like the flip side, and so you know, people talk about like, oh, well, you like always positive or whatever.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_05: And I've had a few people challenge me, and I'm like, honestly, the first conversation we have, if we're just gonna sit down and talk, is more of a how are you conversation because gratitude is not it's not a false mask that you wear, like that's fake, it's not that, it's a choice you're making to try to rewire what your brain is looking for in the world, and then in turn what it finds in the world, because your brain always finds what it's looking for.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_05: Um but it is never I I never recommend it outside of what reality is, and so it can totally be like everything seems like it's going absolutely awful right now, and it's okay to feel that, it's okay to work through those emotions, it's okay to to sit and have those conversations or sit in silence because you don't know how to have those conversations.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_05: That's me when I'm in a rough time.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_05: Um and it's also okay.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_05: This is the part I think a lot of people struggle with, is that you can you can go both directions at once to say all of this is going on and I'm not denying any of it.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_05: And I am choosing to have something I am grateful for so that my brain doesn't become convinced that everything is awful, to just have that because you don't want to pretend it didn't happen or it's not there or anything, right?
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_05: There's no need to go into denial, there's no need to you know reverse all of that.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_05: And I've been in plenty of those spaces where I'm like, today I got absolutely nothing.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_05: I'm dealing with reality, it's one foot in front of the other.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_05: We've had multiple things with kids in the hospital or you know, dealing with that kind of stuff, and you know what is it?
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, some of those days literally was I am so grateful that there is a medical team because I am so lost right now.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_05: There is like I have literally nothing, literally nothing, and all of my hopes in life are currently pinned on a three-doctor team that's in that room.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_05: Like but you can look at that negative or and then it's like but grab the positive thing.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_05: There's a three-doctor team in that room that I can have trust and hope of what they're doing right now.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_05: So you don't deny the difficulties, but also try to just open up that other side of your mind so that it can see the positive, because otherwise it will just go down the negative toilet tank, and that's not a good space.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_01: I think we even had kind of an example right here on the podcast where Liam uh had some technical difficulties, and it's like, yeah, that's frustrating.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know what on our end, we don't know what's going on.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_01: Liam has to figure things out, but instead of like being down about it, we just started cracking jokes.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_03: I think and I I like what you're saying, where like you started making videos, like you could write it down, you could like even if you don't want to post it.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_03: What if you just record yourself and just keep it on your camera?
• 50:19
  unknown: Right?
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_03: You maybe you have a folder just on your camera where you're just like, hey, I'm grateful for this thing, and then you can go back and you have all of them.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_03: You don't even need to post it, you don't need other people to see it.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: It's just for you.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_03: Have it there, so it's at least it's something.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and the crazy thing is like overall, I'm actually a fairly private person.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_05: So like deciding to do something like that publicly was a very different choice for me, but there's still a lot of things I'm not gonna discuss.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_05: I'm just not going to be comfortable discussing openly on this today, I'm grateful channel.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_05: So um, but yeah, those are still things that I'm going to focus on and be grateful for, um, even if it's not something that I'm I'm really ready to share.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_05: I think one of the crazy challenges right when I started, I was still in a bad mental health space, and my grandma passed away.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_05: And my and I was very close to her.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_05: And my friend came to my office when he heard, and he's like, How are you taking this?
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_05: And I said, Honestly, I'm taking it really well because I have been living in this type of crisis and anxiety and stress or whatever, and now I at least have a reason to feel the way I feel.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_05: Like I was I was already there, but it was a difficult, like I really had a lot to wrestle through, but at her funeral it switched to that was my grandma.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I am the most blessed person in the world that that wonderful lady was my grandma, and I have had her in my life for all of these years.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_05: Like, was the grief still there?
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_05: And I think that's the hard thing.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_05: Like, people people will say, But like, well, then you're just you weren't grieving.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_05: No, the grief was all still there, the sadness is all still there, but I also had this like at the same time, like overwhelming sense of like wow, the reason I'm so sad is because she was an incredible person, right?
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_05: And I had the privilege of being her grandchild.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_05: Like, what just an awesome thing.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the better something is, the sadder you'll be about it, right?
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_05: And the reality is, just when it comes to being grateful, we are as humans the worst at not recognizing something that we are grateful for until after we lose it.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_05: Like, that is actually the most common time when we notice something.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_05: So one of the strong one of the wrestles they have with people is they only want to be grateful for something they have currently.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_05: Like, you can absolutely be grateful for something you've had in the past and lost.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_05: And that's you will actually notice it and feel it way more in that situation than you would have at other times.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_05: You can be grateful for something that you you are grateful for, but you don't currently have.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_05: So, like Rob is really grateful for financial stability, and the that's why this stresses him if he's not in it right now, like because that's something he really values in life.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um, Liam really likes ceilings that are taller than he is.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_05: I'm grateful for being able to stand up.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_05: I'm grateful to be able to stand up without hitting my head.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but it gets you into the space that is like, I think, like one of the things that either I'm known for or I get teased for, but is the whole idea of just everything that frustrates you actually points to something you're grateful for.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_05: Everything you're sad about points to something you're grateful for.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_05: Every negative emotion you experience in life actually relates to something you're grateful for.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_05: And so everything then can become not a trigger, but like a path.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_05: And again, not to deny the reality of something, but to show you the path of like, wow, there's actually something I really value connected here, and that's why I'm experiencing these negative the negative emotions I'm experiencing right now.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_01: Randomly, um, this is something Liam and I both have in common.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_01: We are still friends with our exes.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my ex-wife.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, but we um I I I don't want to speak for Liam, but I think we both can agree that like we can look at that and be like, yeah, it it sucked that stuff happened and stuff, but we're still grateful for this person.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_01: We're still grateful to have them in our life.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like you were with them for a reason.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_03: Like I married my high school sweetheart when we met when we were 16, so it's like we grew up together, and it's like you want to just like cut all ties with that and never like again?
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't know.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_03: I was why not take some of the good and try leave, try and leave more of the bad if you can.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_03: I I get why people don't want to do it, but at the same time, it's if it should make sense that you'd want to hold on to something there.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm grateful for that.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_03: I don't have a DeLorean.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_03: Hey David, did you hear that they're remaking the DeLorean?
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_03: Are you serious?
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we talked about this last week.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_03: I went off on a tangent, so I'm not gonna go off on the whole thing again, but just take a quick guess at how much they're selling the new DeLorean for.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_03: Everyone who's listened to it last week is like, oh, there's no way he's gonna guess what it is.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_03: It is actually, well, it's a quarter of a million, so it's$250,000 is the starting price for the new Devon.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_03: That will go higher.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_03: And that's what I don't have it, but I'm grateful that it exists.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm grateful for that new DeLorean because that's what I want, but I'm not gonna be able to get it, but I'm still grateful for it.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, so you're grateful to get the chance to see somebody else driving it.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_03: I will get to see someone else driving it.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_05: You're you're talking about a line of new DeLoreans.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, a line of new Devons.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, I thought you were talking like a singular remake of the new.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_03: They were totally remaking it with like new prod, like new material, like new, like updating it, but still keeping the you know, butterfly doors or whatever it is, the wing doors, whatever it is.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_03: Because I told them that I've never seen Back to the Future, but it would be really funny if I owned a DeLorean.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_03: And when people asked, you know, you must love it, I'm like, no, I've never seen it, and that's just funny.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_03: And my whole life I try to just make it into a joke, so that would have been a very good joke.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_03: Unfortunately, I won't be able to afford it, but I'll be able to see other people drive it around, and I'm grateful for that.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe you'll be able to rent one one day.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_03: I could oh, do you think I could lease one for like a week?
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like a month.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_03: I just want it for it.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_03: I need a rich friend who will let me borrow the DeLorean.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we all know Mike is going to instantly start saving up for one of those.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_01: So eventually he'll own one and he'll go in together.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_03: Mike you're listening to this and we're gonna save up together every penny we have.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_03: No, it's not going to my daughter's college fund.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's going to the new DeLorean that you and I are gonna buy.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_03: If everyone who watches who who watches and listens to this podcast will donate one dollar toward Liam's DeLorean every week in this ep ever of in moderation, I'm gonna bring up the DeLorean and we're gonna we're gonna save money and we're all gonna get there together to this to the new DeLorean.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to see And then we'll have a nice convention and we'll get uh like the red carpet, and everybody will be outside and we'll be ready, and Liam will drive up in the DeLorean and the wings will open and he'll get out and walk the red carpet.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'll be dressed as like the doctor.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, not the doctor.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say the doctor is for Doctor Who.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_03: The doctor from Doctor Who, yes, no.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_03: I don't even remember, I don't even remember the fucking scientist name in it because I've never seen the movies, but I'll be dressed as them.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_05: And it'll be my favorite part about this is like you are intentionally not watching the movies, so you can perpetuate the joke.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I would make sure if I own one, I would make sure I never saw the movies because it would be too too much of a good joke to let go of.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's the plan.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to no longer in moderation.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to obtaining a DeLorean.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_03: Where every week we just try and talk about how we can get our hands on one for at least a little bit.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_05: So we'll just change the definition for you.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_05: What you want is ten DeLoreans.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_05: So one DeLorean is in moderation.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_03: I cut down, I cut back my expectations.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_03: Gosh, it's funny.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_03: Well, if people want to know more about what to be grateful for, where where where do they find you?
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_05: You can follow me on all major socials and a few minor um at they.grateful.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_05: I like that.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_05: And yeah, when TikTok was sh was like you know, threatening that they were gonna get banned, there were all those little you know, minor social medias that launched, and so I created a camera on several of them.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_05: And so I exist in small random corners.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_01: Don't worry, now that Fox is buying TikTok, I'm sure they'll make a comeback and you're already on them.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_05: I actually had a mini viral the other day on Clapper.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_05: Uh easily, I mean, it's hands down the most viewed video I've ever had on there.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_05: And I will have you know.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking to myself, I'm thinking to myself, isn't that the gay app?
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's grinder, not clapper.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_05: Let's get this right.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_05: A video go viral on grind.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_05: And so like I have this really, really awesome income coming from there.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I believe that I am up to 12 cents on clapper.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_03: Damn.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_05: Like I said, there's a few microphones of the internet.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_03: That's getting us so much closer to the DeLorean.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_03: And if you would like to just throw that in our fund, I'd be the 12 cents is yours.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna mail it to you by check, but unfortunately, the stamp costs like what are they, 75 cents?