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- 1:31Speaker 1: On September one, nineteen ninety five, a police officer in
- 1:35Speaker 1: Fort Smith, Arkansas, pulled over a vehicle. A man named
- 1:39Speaker 1: Jerry Cogan was driving and his girlfriend, twenty four year
- 1:42Speaker 1: old Laurie Murchis, was the passenger. Laurie worked at a
- 1:47Speaker 1: local nursing home. She had a four year old daughter
- 1:49Speaker 1: named Brittany, and she adored her little girl. But Laurie
- 1:53Speaker 1: had been battling an addiction to drugs, according to what
- 1:57Speaker 1: her friends told police, mainly to crank or methamphetamines and
- 2:01Speaker 1: Laurie also drank alcohol. Because of that, Laurie had been
- 2:05Speaker 1: moving around a little. She had been living on and
- 2:08Speaker 1: off with her mother, Nancy Murchison, and also sometimes staying
- 2:12Speaker 1: at different local motels. Her mother, Nancy, had been taking
- 2:17Speaker 1: care of Laurie's daughter. Laurie and Jerry were out at
- 2:20Speaker 1: a bar that night when the officer pulled them over.
- 2:23Speaker 1: He believed that both of them had been drinking, so
- 2:26Speaker 1: he placed Jerry under arrest for DUI and Laurie for
- 2:30Speaker 1: suspicion of public intoxication. Laurie was taken to the Sebastian
- 2:34Speaker 1: County Jail. She was released some time after five am
- 2:38Speaker 1: on September second. She told detectives that she planned to
- 2:42Speaker 1: get money and come back to bail Jerry out. Jerry
- 2:46Speaker 1: had given her fifty dollars, but Laurie needed more. Another
- 2:50Speaker 1: inmate later told detectives that she heard Laurie talking to
- 2:54Speaker 1: other women in the holding cells about finding a bail
- 2:57Speaker 1: bond place. Laurie also specifically told jailers she was going
- 3:02Speaker 1: to pick up her paycheck from the Oaks Lodge nursing
- 3:04Speaker 1: home where she had been working, cash it, and come
- 3:07Speaker 1: back to bail Jerry out. Most recently, Laurie had been
- 3:12Speaker 1: staying with Jerry at the Continental Motel in Fort Smith.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Between two and four pm on September second, Laurie went
- 3:19Speaker 1: to the office of the Continental Motel to get a
- 3:21Speaker 1: key to her room. This is according to an April
- 3:24Speaker 1: two thousand and five Times Record report. Laurie's mother said
- 3:28Speaker 1: that she last talked to Laurie on September second. She
- 3:32Speaker 1: said that when she talked to her on the phone,
- 3:34Speaker 1: Laurie told her that she and Jerry were planning on
- 3:36Speaker 1: moving out of Nancy's house, that they had found a
- 3:39Speaker 1: room at a local motel. Laurie said that she would
- 3:43Speaker 1: come to NaN's house the next day to pick Brittany up,
- 3:47Speaker 1: but she never returned to the jail, and she did
- 3:50Speaker 1: not pick up her paycheck at the nursing home. The
- 3:53Speaker 1: last time she was seen alive was at the Continental
- 3:56Speaker 1: Motel when she picked up a key to her room.
- 4:00Speaker 1: After that, she left that motel. None of her close
- 4:03Speaker 1: friends or family ever heard from Laurie Murchison again. Her
- 4:07Speaker 1: family had no way of knowing where she was, or
- 4:10Speaker 1: that the hunt for this missing mother would eventually involve
- 4:14Speaker 1: charges of corruption at the highest levels of State government.
- 4:19Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the past five years of making
- 4:22Speaker 1: my true crime podcast, Helling Gone, I've learned that there
- 4:25Speaker 1: is no such thing as a small town where murdered
- 4:28Speaker 1: never happens. I've received hundreds of messages from people all
- 4:32Speaker 1: around the country asking for help with an unsolved murder
- 4:35Speaker 1: that's affected them, their families, and their communities. If you
- 4:39Speaker 1: have a case you'd like me and my team to
- 4:41Speaker 1: look into, you can reach out to us at our
- 4:43Speaker 1: Helen Gone Murder Line at six seven eight seven four
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- 4:54Speaker 1: send us a message at Helen gonpod. This is Helen
- 4:58Speaker 1: Gone Murder Line. Days went by, Laurie Murchison never showed
- 5:46Speaker 1: up to pick up her daughter, Brittany. According to media
- 5:49Speaker 1: reports at the time, Laurie had been making regular trips
- 5:54Speaker 1: back and forth to Wilburton, Oklahoma. This was happening for
- 5:58Speaker 1: some time prior to her disappearance. A friend of hers
- 6:02Speaker 1: told police that Laurie had disappeared before and that she
- 6:05Speaker 1: had stayed gone for as long as a month at
- 6:08Speaker 1: a time. But Laurie's mother, Nancy, was worried because she
- 6:13Speaker 1: told detectives even if Lourie didn't come by, she always
- 6:18Speaker 1: checked in, and Nancy believed she would never stay out
- 6:20Speaker 1: of communication with her daughter for that long. Nancy officially
- 6:24Speaker 1: reported Lourie missing on September fifth, nineteen ninety five. Police
- 6:29Speaker 1: talked to people who claimed they had seen Laurie walking
- 6:32Speaker 1: around in different locations. They confirmed she was released from
- 6:36Speaker 1: jail at approximately five forty am on September second. In
- 6:41Speaker 1: the day's following Laurie's disappearance, missing posters went up describing
- 6:45Speaker 1: Laurie and the last clothes. She was seen in a
- 6:48Speaker 1: white sleeveless cotton shirt cut off blue denim shorts, white socks,
- 6:52Speaker 1: black sandals, a gold oval shaped knuckle ring on her
- 6:56Speaker 1: left index finger, and a cross necklace on a black ribbon.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Laurie was white, with brown hair that was bleached blonde,
- 7:04Speaker 1: and brown eyes. She did have several distinctive tattoos, including
- 7:09Speaker 1: a tattoo of a unicorn on her left shoulder, a
- 7:11Speaker 1: tattoo of a heart with an arrow piercing it on
- 7:14Speaker 1: her left breast, and a rose tattoo on her left ankle.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Laurie also wore dentures and had several teeth missing. Police,
- 7:23Speaker 1: of course had to consider the possibility that Lurie had
- 7:26Speaker 1: gone missing voluntarily, but this seemed unlikely given the fact
- 7:31Speaker 1: she never picked up her last paycheck from work. Detective Barrows,
- 7:35Speaker 1: one of the investigators on the case, met with Laurie's mother, Nancy.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Nancy gave detectives information about some of Laurie's close friends.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Nancy later told The Times Record that Laurie was scared
- 7:49Speaker 1: worried about something that she had seen or heard in
- 7:51Speaker 1: the weeks before her disappearance. A few weeks before her
- 7:55Speaker 1: daughter went missing, Nancy told police that Laurie came home
- 7:59Speaker 1: afraid that someone was going to come after her, saying
- 8:02Speaker 1: things like they're gonna off me. Nancy said she didn't
- 8:06Speaker 1: know who or what Laurie was talking about or what
- 8:09Speaker 1: could have scared her, and police weren't getting much from
- 8:13Speaker 1: Laurie's friends. None of them had heard from her, and
- 8:15Speaker 1: no one seemed to know where she had gone. Laurie
- 8:19Speaker 1: had been talking to some female prisoners in jail before
- 8:21Speaker 1: she was released. They told police they heard Lurie talking
- 8:26Speaker 1: about a local bonding agency, so it seemed like Laurie
- 8:30Speaker 1: had been planning on getting out of jail, picking up
- 8:32Speaker 1: her paycheck, and bailing out her boyfriend, but there were
- 8:35Speaker 1: a lot of dead ends. We did a Foyer request
- 8:38Speaker 1: for Laurie's case file, but we only got part of
- 8:41Speaker 1: it covering the first few weeks of the investigation. An
- 8:45Speaker 1: officer from the Fort Smith Police Department went to the
- 8:48Speaker 1: Midland Motel, the motel where Laurie was living before she
- 8:51Speaker 1: moved to the Continental, but no one had seen her there.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Police were able to figure out that on the night
- 8:58Speaker 1: Laurie was arrested, she and her boyfriend Jerry, went to
- 9:01Speaker 1: a bar called Shooters. They were hanging out there from
- 9:04Speaker 1: around seven to around eleven PM or midnight, right before
- 9:08Speaker 1: they were pulled over by police. Police checked local hospitals, motels,
- 9:13Speaker 1: and rehabs, but no one had seen Laurie Murchison. Police
- 9:17Speaker 1: also talked to Laurie's boyfriend, Jerry. He said he had
- 9:21Speaker 1: no idea where his girlfriend had gone. Police did say
- 9:24Speaker 1: he was cooperative and they cleared him pretty quickly. Nancy
- 9:29Speaker 1: did tell police that Jerry had told her that since
- 9:32Speaker 1: he and Laurie had been together, they hadn't been to
- 9:34Speaker 1: any bars. Now obviously this wasn't true because Laurie and
- 9:39Speaker 1: Jerry were at shooters and they were intoxicated when they
- 9:42Speaker 1: were picked up. But there are a lot of reasons
- 9:45Speaker 1: why Jerry might have told this small white lie to
- 9:48Speaker 1: Laurie's mother. Jerry Cogan was working at a glass plant
- 9:52Speaker 1: in Midland. He came in and talked to detectives, and
- 9:55Speaker 1: apparently he was very cooperative. He said he was as
- 9:58Speaker 1: shocked as anyone else when Laurie never showed up to
- 10:01Speaker 1: come bail him out. During this time, detectives did get
- 10:04Speaker 1: a report that a body was found a white female
- 10:07Speaker 1: in Salasaw Creek in Oklahoma, but it was not Laurie.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Laurie had been at work at the nursing home on Friday.
- 10:16Speaker 1: A friend of hers named Ronda had seen her there,
- 10:19Speaker 1: but Ronda said that was the last time that she
- 10:21Speaker 1: saw Laurie. Laurie never came back. Police wondered could someone
- 10:26Speaker 1: at the nursing home have wanted to hurt Laurie. During
- 10:32Speaker 1: this time, Captain J. C Ryder, one of the investigators
- 10:36Speaker 1: on the case, interviewed a confidential informant. This was someone
- 10:39Speaker 1: who was in jail in Ozark. Now. This person told
- 10:42Speaker 1: him Laurie had been having a sexual relationship with a
- 10:46Speaker 1: married man who worked with her at the nursing home,
- 10:48Speaker 1: and that the married man's wife was violent and it
- 10:51Speaker 1: threatened to kill Laurie. J. C. Rider interviewed the married man.
- 10:56Speaker 1: This person denied having a relationship with Laurie. They said
- 10:59Speaker 1: they had never had more than a casual conversation with her.
- 11:03Speaker 1: When Captain Rider asked who would have a reason to
- 11:06Speaker 1: make up a story like that, this person gave the
- 11:09Speaker 1: name of someone who was married to one of his
- 11:11Speaker 1: family members, someone with a grudge against him. He said
- 11:15Speaker 1: he didn't know if this guy would know about the
- 11:16Speaker 1: disappearance of Laurie since this person was in jail in Ozark.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Captain Rider said after reviewing the information, he believed that
- 11:25Speaker 1: the married man was being truthful about not having a
- 11:28Speaker 1: relationship with Laurie. Captain Rider also spoke to the man's wife.
- 11:32Speaker 1: She said she had no knowledge of an affair between
- 11:35Speaker 1: him and Laurie, so that possibility of Laurie having an
- 11:39Speaker 1: affair with a married man that led to her death
- 11:41Speaker 1: was apparently ruled out. Police investigated another man, someone with
- 11:46Speaker 1: a long criminal record, including aggravated robbery, burglary, assault and battery.
- 11:51Speaker 1: This person was one of Lurie's acquaintances, but apparently this
- 11:56Speaker 1: was another dead end. Nancy told police about some friends
- 12:00Speaker 1: of Lourie's, a man named Floyd who was nicknamed Corky,
- 12:04Speaker 1: and his wife Sue. Nancy Murchison said Sue told someone
- 12:10Speaker 1: that one night Laurie showed up at her house with
- 12:12Speaker 1: two men in a red car. Sue denied telling Nancy
- 12:16Speaker 1: this when police asked her about it, but Corky said
- 12:20Speaker 1: Sue had told him that same story. So who were
- 12:24Speaker 1: these two men, what did they want? And could they
- 12:27Speaker 1: have had anything to do with Lurie's disappearance. Another detective,
- 12:31Speaker 1: Detective Reese, called the Razorback cab company, trying to retrace
- 12:35Speaker 1: Lori's steps after she was released from jail. He figured
- 12:39Speaker 1: out that a driver had picked her up at a
- 12:41Speaker 1: local bonding company. The driver told police he took Lurie
- 12:45Speaker 1: to a local Taco bell to pick up her car,
- 12:48Speaker 1: but the driver said that Lourie's car was not there.
- 12:52Speaker 1: The cab driver said at this point, Laurie was upset
- 12:55Speaker 1: and surprised because she said the police had told her
- 12:58Speaker 1: they were not going to tow the car, so the
- 13:01Speaker 1: driver told police that after that, Laurie had him drive
- 13:04Speaker 1: her to a local apartment complex. The Weregond Courts, so
- 13:08Speaker 1: detectives went to that apartment complex they found a man
- 13:12Speaker 1: named Billy Aaron. Billy told them that he knew someone
- 13:16Speaker 1: who may have information about Loriie. This person's name was Jimmy.
- 13:20Speaker 1: He was living in an apartment in that complex, and
- 13:23Speaker 1: Jimmy was living on and off with a woman named
- 13:25Speaker 1: Mary Chipman who went by the nickname Cricket. Jimmy's exact
- 13:30Speaker 1: address was kind of a mystery. He said. He stayed
- 13:33Speaker 1: sometimes in Van Buren with a woman, some of the
- 13:35Speaker 1: time with his mom, and part of the time in
- 13:37Speaker 1: another house. Billy said Jimmy and Cricket fought a lot,
- 13:42Speaker 1: that Cricket had kicked you out of his house from
- 13:44Speaker 1: time to time, and that at that point Jimmy ended
- 13:48Speaker 1: up crashing with Billy. In fact, a lot of what
- 13:51Speaker 1: unfolded next would center on that apartment complex, the Ragon Court,
- 13:56Speaker 1: and on apartment number eighty seven, where Billy said Jimmy
- 13:59Speaker 1: and Cricket were living, and according to Billy, they also
- 14:03Speaker 1: all hung out regularly at Shooters, the bar where Laurie
- 14:06Speaker 1: and Jerry were last seen before they got arrested. Billy's
- 14:10Speaker 1: story was that Jimmy had come over to his place
- 14:13Speaker 1: and that they were drinking one night. Billy said they
- 14:16Speaker 1: happened to be watching TV and a news story about
- 14:19Speaker 1: Lourie's disappearance came on. Billy said Jimmy told him that
- 14:22Speaker 1: he recognized Laurie. Billy said Jimmy had seen Laurie at
- 14:27Speaker 1: a party at Cricket's place, which he said was apartment
- 14:30Speaker 1: number eighty seven, where they were doing drugs. He said
- 14:33Speaker 1: Kirky was there too that night, and at that party,
- 14:37Speaker 1: Laurie was sitting in a chair. Laurie overdosed and died.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Billy said, quote, Cricket went ape, shit, started throwing shit,
- 14:46Speaker 1: throwing everybody out, flipping out and all this. That's when
- 14:49Speaker 1: they picked her up and carried her outside. He said
- 14:52Speaker 1: that they carried her out like she was drunk, put
- 14:55Speaker 1: her in the vehicle like she was drunk, and he
- 14:57Speaker 1: drove off end quote. He is in reference to Corky,
- 15:01Speaker 1: by the way, because according to Jimmy's story, Corky drove
- 15:05Speaker 1: off somewhere and buried the body. Billy said that Jimmy
- 15:09Speaker 1: told him he didn't know where they went and that
- 15:11Speaker 1: he didn't have a lot of other details. Billy said, quote,
- 15:15Speaker 1: he said, at least you ought to have the decency
- 15:17Speaker 1: to tell somebody or just let somebody know. That's what
- 15:20Speaker 1: he said there in my house end quote. Later, the
- 15:24Speaker 1: Fort Smith Police Department interviewed Cricket, but they said she
- 15:28Speaker 1: was actually living in apartment number ninety nine. At first,
- 15:31Speaker 1: police said Cricket seemed uncooperative, but she eventually told police
- 15:35Speaker 1: that on the night Laurie was arrested, she was out
- 15:38Speaker 1: with her boyfriend. She said Laurie had stopped by her
- 15:41Speaker 1: residence while she was out and talked to her babysitter,
- 15:43Speaker 1: then Laurie left. Cricket said she never saw Laurie that night.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Then Cricket changed her story. This time she said she
- 15:52Speaker 1: was out with another guy. Police said she never mentioned
- 15:57Speaker 1: this other guy before, and they were asking her a
- 15:59Speaker 1: lot of questions about her story and why it changed.
- 16:02Speaker 1: They searched Cricket's room and seized items described as drug paraphernalia,
- 16:07Speaker 1: but Cricket was never arrested or charged in connection with
- 16:10Speaker 1: Laurie's death, and after the initial few weeks it seemed
- 16:14Speaker 1: like Laurie's case went cold. No trace of Laurie was
- 16:18Speaker 1: found and no body. But then Lourie Murchison made headlines
- 16:23Speaker 1: again because there was a big development in the case
- 16:27Speaker 1: from a very unexpected source. News broke that the FBI
- 16:32Speaker 1: was investigating the prosecutor for Sebastian County, Ron Fields, of
- 16:36Speaker 1: dealing drugs and of ordering the murder of Lorie Murchison,
- 16:41Speaker 1: and that the person who ron Fields allegedly ordered to
- 16:45Speaker 1: murder Laurie Murchison was one of the investigators on the case,
- 16:49Speaker 1: the police captain j c Ryder. In the weeks following
- 17:04Speaker 1: Laurie Murchison's disappearance, police were questioning people at a nearby
- 17:09Speaker 1: apartment complex. They found a man named Billy, who claimed
- 17:12Speaker 1: that Laurie overdosed at the residence of a woman named
- 17:15Speaker 1: Cricket in a room at the Ragencourt apartment complex, and
- 17:19Speaker 1: that they carried her lifeless body out in a vehicle.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Billy claimed that Jimmy was afraid to tell the authorities
- 17:26Speaker 1: because Jimmy was afraid that he would be charged with
- 17:29Speaker 1: her death and disposal of her body. Then the case
- 17:33Speaker 1: went quiet for years, but then all of a sudden.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Around two thousand and five, Laurie Murchison made headlines again
- 17:43Speaker 1: because there was a huge development in the case from
- 17:45Speaker 1: a very unexpected source. News broke that the FBI was
- 17:50Speaker 1: investigating the prosecutor for Sebastian County, Ron Fields, of dealing
- 17:54Speaker 1: drugs and of ordering the murder of Lorie Murchison, and
- 17:58Speaker 1: that the person Ron Fields allegedly ordered to murder Laurie
- 18:03Speaker 1: was one of the investigators on the case, the police
- 18:05Speaker 1: Captain J. C. Rider. I want to back up a
- 18:09Speaker 1: minute and talk about ron Fields, because there is a
- 18:12Speaker 1: massive controversy about ron Fields that is still unresolved. We've
- 18:17Speaker 1: talked about him briefly before when we were talking about
- 18:19Speaker 1: the unsolved murder of Melissa Witt. Ron Fields was close
- 18:23Speaker 1: to Captain J. C. Rider of the Fort Smith Police Department,
- 18:27Speaker 1: and Captain J. C. Rider later made news for becoming
- 18:30Speaker 1: involved in the Melissa Witt cold case.
- 18:33Speaker 2: J C.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Rider and Ron Fields have a lot of history. Ron
- 18:37Speaker 1: Fields served as the Sebastian County prosecutor for eighteen years.
- 18:41Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety, he was a point by then Arkansas
- 18:45Speaker 1: Governor Bill Clinton to become Arkansas Attorney General. During the
- 18:49Speaker 1: time ron Fields was the prosecutor. He was very publicly
- 18:52Speaker 1: anti drug He helped write laws that required longer prison
- 18:56Speaker 1: sentences for drug abusers. He led the twelfth Judicial Drug
- 19:00Speaker 1: Task Force in Western Arkansas. Ron Fields actually started in
- 19:06Speaker 1: Arkansas the practice of requiring prosecutors rather than police to
- 19:11Speaker 1: get search warrants in drug cases. This meant that ron
- 19:14Speaker 1: Fields or one of his deputies actually went on drug
- 19:17Speaker 1: raids with the police. Now, his supporters said that this
- 19:21Speaker 1: made sure the evidence was all gathered by the book,
- 19:24Speaker 1: and to be fair, the conviction rate in Arkansas for
- 19:27Speaker 1: drug offenses did go up under ron Fields. His critics
- 19:31Speaker 1: said the fact that he personally went on those drug
- 19:33Speaker 1: raids was a massive red flag for other reasons which
- 19:37Speaker 1: we'll get to a little later. Ron Fields was also
- 19:41Speaker 1: a close friend of Republican Congressman A. SA SA Hutchinson.
- 19:45Speaker 1: ASA Hutchinson, of course, served as US Attorney and later
- 19:48Speaker 1: went on to become the forty six governor of Arkansas.
- 19:51Speaker 1: He served from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty three. In
- 19:54Speaker 1: two thousand and one, ASA Hutchinson took ron Fields with
- 19:58Speaker 1: him to Washington, d C. Ron Fields became A. SA
- 20:02Speaker 1: Hutchinson's special assistant at the Drug Enforcement Agency and later
- 20:06Speaker 1: worked with Hutchinson in the Department of Homeland Security. According
- 20:10Speaker 1: to The Arkansas Times, this position that ron Fields had
- 20:13Speaker 1: with DA was very powerful. He worked on a coalition
- 20:17Speaker 1: that battled terrorism and drug trafficking, and then in around
- 20:22Speaker 1: two thousand and four two thousand and five, these accusations
- 20:24Speaker 1: surfaced about J. C. Ryder and ron Fields that according
- 20:28Speaker 1: to media reports, these two men were allegedly involved in
- 20:31Speaker 1: Lourie Murchison's murder. On May second, two thousand and five,
- 20:36Speaker 1: officials at the Department of Homeland Security pulled ron Fields
- 20:39Speaker 1: security clearance and then he was suspended from his position
- 20:43Speaker 1: at the Department of Homeland Security. He appealed that decision
- 20:47Speaker 1: but lost. Suddenly, ron fields days in Washington were numbered
- 20:53Speaker 1: the FBI continued their investigation. Ron Fields went back to
- 20:57Speaker 1: Fort Smith ASA. Hutchinson also left Washington at around that time.
- 21:03Speaker 1: This connection between ron Fields and Lori Murchison was allegedly
- 21:07Speaker 1: JC Rider. J. C. Rider was also a powerful figure
- 21:11Speaker 1: in Arkansas. He had been in the Department since nineteen
- 21:14Speaker 1: seventy five and was head of the Department's Major Crimes
- 21:16Speaker 1: Unit until his retirement in two thousand and two. So
- 21:20Speaker 1: suddenly the FBI have announced they were investigating claims that
- 21:24Speaker 1: ron Fields had allegedly been involved in drug dealing and
- 21:27Speaker 1: that he ordered J. C. Rider to kill Laurie Murchison
- 21:29Speaker 1: and to dump her body. J C. Rider was subpoena
- 21:34Speaker 1: to Washington, d c. To appear in front of a
- 21:36Speaker 1: grand jury convened by the Public Corruption Section of the
- 21:40Speaker 1: Department of Justice. Now, in the end, no charges were
- 21:44Speaker 1: filed against J. C. Rider or Ron Fields, but it
- 21:47Speaker 1: is hard to find any information out about exactly what
- 21:51Speaker 1: went down during this investigation. We have made a Foyer
- 21:55Speaker 1: request to the FBI for any and all case files
- 21:57Speaker 1: involving investigations into ron Fields, but our request has been denied. Meanwhile,
- 22:04Speaker 1: ron Field's lawyer Eddie Christian said the FBI investigation into
- 22:08Speaker 1: ron Fields was the biggest witch hunt he'd ever seen.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Eddie Christian was also J. C. Rider's attorney. He later
- 22:15Speaker 1: told The Arkansas Times that the investigators were absolutely nuts.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Eddie Christian told the Southwest Times Record in April two
- 22:24Speaker 1: thousand and five, quote, I've known this guy, meaning ron Fields,
- 22:28Speaker 1: for a long damn time. Let me tell you he's
- 22:31Speaker 1: one of the most impoverished lawyers. I know he wears J. C.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Penny suits. He does not live high on the hog.
- 22:37Speaker 1: This boy's never made any money. I mean, he's been
- 22:40Speaker 1: a public servant and that's been about it, except for
- 22:43Speaker 1: a short stant in private practice. It's crazy to accuse
- 22:47Speaker 1: ron Fields of selling drugs or doing drugs end quote.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Eddie Christian also claimed that FBI agents had harassed ron
- 22:55Speaker 1: Fields and J. C Ryder's families. Ron Fields had other supporters.
- 23:01Speaker 1: Jack Moseley, the former editor of the Times Record, wrote,
- 23:04Speaker 1: I would sooner believe mother Teresa was an axe murderer
- 23:07Speaker 1: than think Ron Fields could be guilty of using and
- 23:10Speaker 1: trafficking in illegal drugs. I've never known a more straight
- 23:13Speaker 1: error fellow than Fields, and the idea of him ordering
- 23:17Speaker 1: a police officer to kill a missing woman in Fort
- 23:19Speaker 1: Smith to keep her quiet about his alleged drug activities
- 23:23Speaker 1: is even more ridiculous. End quote. But it's interesting because
- 23:26Speaker 1: in that same column, Jack Moseley wrote, quote, Fields or
- 23:31Speaker 1: one of his deputies personally went on almost every local
- 23:34Speaker 1: drug rate in order to guarantee that evidence was properly gathered,
- 23:38Speaker 1: protected and kept for use in criminal trials. En quote.
- 23:42Speaker 1: But the Arkansas Times reported that they had spoken to
- 23:45Speaker 1: a lawyer. They didn't name this person, but they said
- 23:48Speaker 1: the source had been interviewed by the FBI and that
- 23:51Speaker 1: the FBI were asking about money that was forfeited as
- 23:54Speaker 1: a result of drug arrests. Now, this source said the
- 23:57Speaker 1: DOJ threatened to pull the lawyer's license if he didn't
- 24:01Speaker 1: give them the information they wanted about ron Fields. The
- 24:04Speaker 1: source said they didn't have any information on ron Fields.
- 24:07Speaker 1: They didn't know why this investigation was happening at all.
- 24:10Speaker 1: But The Arkansas Times talked to other sources who said
- 24:12Speaker 1: that ron Fields quote ran the police department and that
- 24:16Speaker 1: the fact that he carried a gun and accompanied police
- 24:19Speaker 1: on drug raids was in fact a massive red flag
- 24:23Speaker 1: and a conflict of interest. The source told the Times
- 24:27Speaker 1: that he had seen statements from witnesses people who claimed
- 24:31Speaker 1: that they had seen ron Fields use drugs. So what
- 24:35Speaker 1: does any of this have to do with Lourie Murchison. Well.
- 24:39Speaker 1: One of the allegations that federal investigators were looking into
- 24:42Speaker 1: was whether ry Murchison may have had knowledge about ron
- 24:46Speaker 1: Field's alleged drug activities and whether j. C Ryder went
- 24:50Speaker 1: to question Laurie Murchison. The allegation was that he and
- 24:54Speaker 1: ron Fields may have gone together to question Laurie. This
- 24:58Speaker 1: federal investigation went on for two years. During that time,
- 25:03Speaker 1: a lot of rock Field's supporters stated it was ridiculous
- 25:06Speaker 1: to believe that Ronfield's impeccable character could ever be questioned
- 25:10Speaker 1: and that his activities could be covered up. But later
- 25:13Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, very ugly allegations surfaced again
- 25:17Speaker 1: about ron Fields, allegations that he sexually assaulted his mentally
- 25:22Speaker 1: disabled daughter, twenty six year old Bridget Dollar, and that
- 25:25Speaker 1: the prosecutor's office declined to prosecute. On June twenty second,
- 25:30Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Bridget told the police in Fort
- 25:33Speaker 1: Smith that her stepfather, ron Fields, had raped her. She
- 25:37Speaker 1: came to police after first confessing the alleged sexual assault
- 25:41Speaker 1: to a relative. The officer who interviewed Bridget, Christine Deeson,
- 25:45Speaker 1: was quoted in The Arkansas Times. Bridget said she was
- 25:48Speaker 1: sitting on the couch watching The Prices Ride on TV
- 25:51Speaker 1: when ron Fields came in and quote pulled her off
- 25:54Speaker 1: of the couch by her arm and took her to
- 25:57Speaker 1: her mom's bedroom. He took off her clothes and put
- 26:00Speaker 1: her on the bed. She said she knew what he
- 26:02Speaker 1: was doing was wrong. She also told me it was painful.
- 26:06Speaker 1: I asked her what made him stop. She said she
- 26:09Speaker 1: thought his cell phone rang and he stopped to answer it.
- 26:12Speaker 1: When asked what happened next, Bridget said that he put
- 26:15Speaker 1: on his clothes and left. Bridget said that after that
- 26:19Speaker 1: he would come on Tuesdays and do the same thing.
- 26:22Speaker 1: She couldn't tell me how many times this happened, but
- 26:24Speaker 1: said it was more than two. She said he told
- 26:27Speaker 1: her not to tell or he would get in big trouble.
- 26:30Speaker 1: End quote. Now this became a big story because not
- 26:35Speaker 1: only did it involve a powerful politician and his former stepdaughter,
- 26:39Speaker 1: but her mother, ron Field's ex wife, Claire, was at
- 26:43Speaker 1: the time the prosecuting attorney for the city of Fort Smith.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Bridget lived at home with her mother. She had never
- 26:50Speaker 1: held a job and had an intellectual development disorder. She
- 26:53Speaker 1: is described in court documents as a disabled and incapacitated adult.
- 26:58Speaker 1: She has always had a family member appointed as a
- 27:00Speaker 1: permanent guardian. Despite that, and despite the fact that police
- 27:05Speaker 1: reviewed phone records and voice mails and said they believe
- 27:08Speaker 1: Bridget ron Fields was never interviewed. The Arkansas Times kind
- 27:13Speaker 1: of summed up the case progress in two thousand and
- 27:15Speaker 1: eight by quoting an investigator who said of Ron Fields, quote,
- 27:20Speaker 1: if he had been a janitor, he would have been
- 27:22Speaker 1: arrested the next day end quote. According to the police
- 27:26Speaker 1: record of the rape investigation that was quoted in the
- 27:29Speaker 1: Arkansas Times, Claire boy and Gasser, ron Fields X's wife
- 27:33Speaker 1: told police that ron was drinking heavily when he came
- 27:35Speaker 1: back from Washington, d c. In two thousand and five,
- 27:38Speaker 1: but she told investigators they were on good terms even
- 27:41Speaker 1: after the divorce. She said the accusations had shocked her,
- 27:45Speaker 1: but that she believed her daughter Bridget. She was willing
- 27:48Speaker 1: to put herself and her daughter through whatever police and
- 27:51Speaker 1: prosecution and cross examination they would need to go through
- 27:55Speaker 1: to get justice. The investigators also believed that Bridget was
- 27:59Speaker 1: telling the truth. So why wasn't Ronfields prosecuted or even questioned?
- 28:06Speaker 1: According to Arkansas law, it's a crime to have sexual
- 28:09Speaker 1: intercourse with a person who is incapable of consent because
- 28:12Speaker 1: she is mentally defective. That would mean a person who
- 28:16Speaker 1: is incapable of understanding the nature and consequences of sexual acts.
- 28:21Speaker 1: But in the memo quoted in the Times, the prosecutors wrote,
- 28:25Speaker 1: Bridget understood what sex was. She knew that she did
- 28:28Speaker 1: not want to go upstairs with Ron. But the memo
- 28:31Speaker 1: stated this meant that mentally defective does not apply because
- 28:34Speaker 1: she kind of understood what was happening. So apparently, because
- 28:39Speaker 1: Bridget understood the concept of sex, the prosecutors believe she
- 28:43Speaker 1: was not mentally defective, at least according to the law
- 28:46Speaker 1: at the time. So the next question was if she
- 28:49Speaker 1: understood what was happening, did she consent? The memo reads
- 28:52Speaker 1: quote this question is very difficult to answer at this time.
- 28:56Speaker 1: Victim is stated that the defendant would come to her home,
- 28:59Speaker 1: grab her arm, pull her off the couch, and take
- 29:01Speaker 1: her upstairs to perform sexual intercourse. How much force was
- 29:05Speaker 1: exerted end quote. So in this memo they talk about
- 29:10Speaker 1: a nineteen ninety five case and that it involved a
- 29:14Speaker 1: fourteen year old in her stepfather. And apparently the Arkansas
- 29:16Speaker 1: Supreme Court found that when an assailant has an in
- 29:20Speaker 1: loco parenthous relationship to a victim, that the law regarding
- 29:25Speaker 1: force is a little bit different. When someone is acting
- 29:27Speaker 1: as a parent, the victim does not have to display
- 29:31Speaker 1: what they call utmost physical resistance. Now, this would definitely
- 29:36Speaker 1: seem to apply to Ronfield's and bridget dollar And yet
- 29:40Speaker 1: six months after this alleged assault was reported, the prosecutor's
- 29:44Speaker 1: office notified the police charges would not be filed. And
- 29:48Speaker 1: this blows my mind. In the explanation letter, the prosecutor wrote,
- 29:52Speaker 1: Bridget's mental deficiencies do not rise to the level of
- 29:56Speaker 1: charging rape under the law. While in the prosecutor's opinion,
- 29:59Speaker 1: Bridget was not lying, the office believed she would have
- 30:04Speaker 1: perhaps insurmountable problems if she was cross examined if the
- 30:07Speaker 1: case went to trial, and one of the main issues
- 30:10Speaker 1: they kept debating was the question of force. Prosecutor's office
- 30:14Speaker 1: stated the only force that Bridget talked about was when
- 30:17Speaker 1: ron Fields grabbed her arm when she was on the
- 30:19Speaker 1: couch and took her upstairs. Bridget did say she said
- 30:22Speaker 1: no and slapped at him. However, the prosecutor's office believed
- 30:26Speaker 1: she did have an opportunity to leave while ron Fields
- 30:31Speaker 1: was undressing. Bridget's family were outraged. They believed the prosecutors
- 30:36Speaker 1: were saying basically that Bridget wasn't mentally capable of testifying,
- 30:41Speaker 1: but she was mentally capable of consenting sex. Claire's sister,
- 30:46Speaker 1: Sarah Estraat, wrote to the prosecutor about Ron Fields. She wrote, quote,
- 30:51Speaker 1: Ron Fields is a cunning lawyer who is accustomed to
- 30:53Speaker 1: kicking indoors during drug raids. A terrified, mentally impaired young
- 30:57Speaker 1: woman is no match for him. End quote. So no
- 31:01Speaker 1: action was taken against ron Fields in the sexual assault case,
- 31:05Speaker 1: and the FBI never conclusively linked him to Laurie Murchison's disappearance.
- 31:11Speaker 1: The FBI investigation was ended with no progress on Laurie's case.
- 31:19Speaker 1: Over the years, Nancy Murchison told The Times Record she
- 31:22Speaker 1: would get anonymous calls from people claiming they knew what
- 31:25Speaker 1: happened to Laurie. They would tell her that Laurie had
- 31:28Speaker 1: been burned into stove or put through a wood chipper,
- 31:31Speaker 1: or that she had been fed to pigs. In two thousand,
- 31:35Speaker 1: a new detective named Ron Lockhart was put on Laurie's case,
- 31:39Speaker 1: and he started digging for answers. According to news reports,
- 31:51Speaker 1: the new detective assigned to Laurie's case, Ron Lockhart, and
- 31:54Speaker 1: his team, conducted interviews and they went under cover wearing wires.
- 31:59Speaker 1: Ron Lockhart did not believe that the investigation into Ron
- 32:02Speaker 1: Fields and J. C. Rider were justified. He said he
- 32:06Speaker 1: found no evidence that either of them were involved in
- 32:08Speaker 1: Laurie Murchison's disappearance. He called this investigation a waste of
- 32:13Speaker 1: taxpayers money and a waste of time. He said he
- 32:17Speaker 1: believed that the allegations against ron Fields had come from
- 32:21Speaker 1: someone with a grudge. Others have suggested it could be
- 32:24Speaker 1: someone Ron prosecuted in the past. Obviously, in a job
- 32:27Speaker 1: like ron Fields, it goes without saying that you can
- 32:30Speaker 1: make a lot of enemies. But that person or person's
- 32:33Speaker 1: were never named. The FBI never filed any charges against
- 32:37Speaker 1: Ron Fields or J. C. Ryder. The jury in Washington,
- 32:41Speaker 1: d C. Heard testimony that it led to nothing. Over
- 32:46Speaker 1: the years, Ron Lockhart developed a theory, one that seemed
- 32:49Speaker 1: very similar to what Billy had initially told detectives, that
- 32:53Speaker 1: Laurie had accidentally overdosed and then the person or people
- 32:57Speaker 1: she was with got rid of her body. Every once
- 33:00Speaker 1: in a while, Lourie's name pops up in headlines again.
- 33:04Speaker 1: Back in two thousand and five, n WA News reported
- 33:07Speaker 1: that someone had tipped off the Fort Smith Police that
- 33:10Speaker 1: Laurie's body was buried in salvageyard, so they went out
- 33:13Speaker 1: and dug there. That salvageyard was reportedly less than a
- 33:18Speaker 1: mile from the motel where Laurie was last seen. Searchers
- 33:22Speaker 1: were sent in to dig. In the end, they found
- 33:24Speaker 1: no trace of Lourie. The Times Record did a follow
- 33:28Speaker 1: up story on Laurie Murchison in twenty fourteen, coming up
- 33:31Speaker 1: on the twenty year anniversary of her disappearance. They interviewed
- 33:35Speaker 1: Ron Lockhart and he gave more details about his theory.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Ron Lockhart said he had a suspect in mind, and
- 33:43Speaker 1: it was J. C Ryder or Ron Fields or anyone
- 33:46Speaker 1: connected to them. He told The Times Record it was
- 33:49Speaker 1: someone who was in prison in Oklahoma. He said that
- 33:52Speaker 1: he felt that he did have enough to charge this
- 33:54Speaker 1: person with abuse of a corpse. He said he took
- 33:57Speaker 1: the information he had to the Sebastian County prosecuting Attorney,
- 34:01Speaker 1: but unfortunately he found out that it was too late.
- 34:05Speaker 1: Ron Lockhart told the Times Record quote, back then there
- 34:08Speaker 1: was enough evidence to file disposing of a corpse, but
- 34:11Speaker 1: the statute of limitations had run over. But we did
- 34:15Speaker 1: have a strong suspect that we felt like knew what
- 34:18Speaker 1: happened with her. End quote. He said the detectives did
- 34:22Speaker 1: interview their suspect in prison, that they asked the person
- 34:25Speaker 1: where Laurie's body was, but in the end they weren't
- 34:29Speaker 1: able to find her. At the time, Ron Lockhart said
- 34:32Speaker 1: he believed someone might have dumped Loriie into the Arkansas River.
- 34:37Speaker 1: He said, quote, it was a sad deal. We did
- 34:40Speaker 1: everything we could do, and I feel confident I know
- 34:43Speaker 1: what happened to her. Ron Lockhart said five different sources
- 34:48Speaker 1: told him that a man whom you would not name,
- 34:50Speaker 1: said Laurie died of a drug overdose and that this
- 34:53Speaker 1: man worried about being charged with her death and disposal
- 34:56Speaker 1: of her body. So my question is, are these the
- 35:00Speaker 1: same people who were questioned in the early weeks of
- 35:03Speaker 1: the investigation or someone else? And if this is where
- 35:07Speaker 1: police have landed, if this is all they're going to do,
- 35:10Speaker 1: then why won't they release the rest of the case file.
- 35:13Speaker 1: Nancy Murchison said back then she still believes that Laurie
- 35:18Speaker 1: was murdered. She can't forget what Laurie said in the
- 35:21Speaker 1: weeks before she disappeared, especially that one time when Laurie
- 35:24Speaker 1: came home and said that someone was planning to offer her.
- 35:28Speaker 1: But could that have been Laurie's paranoia due to drug
- 35:32Speaker 1: use or could it have been something more? After all,
- 35:35Speaker 1: there was a lot that Nancy Murchison admitted she didn't
- 35:38Speaker 1: know about what was going on with Lourie. She told
- 35:41Speaker 1: the newspaper she didn't even know that Laurie was on drugs.
- 35:45Speaker 1: In twenty twelve, she met with a volunteer group called
- 35:47Speaker 1: the Cold Case Revivors, people whose relatives had been murdered
- 35:51Speaker 1: or missing. They had regular meetings in Muldrow, Oklahoma. But
- 35:56Speaker 1: I don't think that group still exists because a link
- 35:59Speaker 1: to the organization's web page appears to be inactive. The
- 36:06Speaker 1: latest update about Laurie's case from the Fort Smith Police
- 36:09Speaker 1: Department came from a news report in twenty fourteen. It
- 36:13Speaker 1: said a new detective had been assigned to Laurie's case,
- 36:16Speaker 1: Detective David Williams. This person had been working in the
- 36:20Speaker 1: Criminal Investigation division for a year and at that time
- 36:23Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, he told the newspaper there had been
- 36:27Speaker 1: nothing new added to Laurie's case file in years. He said,
- 36:31Speaker 1: quote that things hundreds of pages. I haven't even been
- 36:35Speaker 1: able to make it through all that end quote. Laurie's mother,
- 36:39Speaker 1: Nancy took custody of her daughter Brittany, who would now
- 36:43Speaker 1: be in her thirdies. Nancy Murchison talked to the media
- 36:46Speaker 1: several times over the years. She made public police for
- 36:50Speaker 1: whoever killed Laurie or who was involved in any way
- 36:52Speaker 1: to come forward. She said, even if it was an accident,
- 36:55Speaker 1: she would want to know so that the family could
- 36:58Speaker 1: have some kind of closure and they could put Laurie
- 37:01Speaker 1: in the family plot. But in twenty seventeen, Nancy passed away,
- 37:06Speaker 1: never knowing what happened to her daughter Laurie and never
- 37:10Speaker 1: being able to bring her body home. Anyone with information
- 37:14Speaker 1: on the disappearance of Laurie Murchison can call the Fort
- 37:16Speaker 1: Smith Police Departments Criminal Investigation Division at four seven nine
- 37:20Speaker 1: seven oh nine five one one six, or email Missing
- 37:24Speaker 1: Persons at Fort SMITHPD dot org. I'm Katherine Townsend. This
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