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Ep.100 | Paving Our Own Way: An Inside Look at Recording 100 Episodes with Shay & Mariah · Curiously Guided Podcast

• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Curiously Guided Podcast.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: We're your hosts, Mariah and Shay.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: Two online business strategists passionate about rewriting the rules to success within both life and business.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: This podcast started because we both felt frustrated by the lack of deep, meaningful, and transparent conversations around what it takes to actually run a business that we both feel good about.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: So we decided to create that for ourselves.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: We want our solo episodes and guest interviews to be examples of how you two can chase your dreams and go down your own rabbit holes, ultimately leading to a more sustainable and fulfilling life.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: We believe that curiosity is our superpower.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: And trusting the nudge is a muscle that's meant to be strengthened.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: Especially if we want to create a lifestyle that feels good from the inside out.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_00: So are you ready to open your mind and let curiosity guide the way?
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: Let's take this journey together.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: We're so glad you're here.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: Now let's dive in.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, a hundred fucking episodes?
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: This is our hundredth episode.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: This is absolutely, truly and honestly bananas to me.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: How do we get here?
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: An excellent question.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm almost a little afraid to go back and tell you the answer of how we got here, but it was by climbing cringe mountain in a lot of ways.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um cringe mountain, dude.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, y'all.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_00: If you haven't been with us since the beginning, like, you know when you like do something and then you're just like shaking while you do it, and you're like, I literally never want to think about that ever again.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of what starting a podcast is, because I feel like we did it before we were ready, but the only way that we were gonna be ready is by doing it.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like I don't, you could not pay me to go and listen to our beginning episodes.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure that they're fine.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's not like we're like, we're doing anything wild.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like my voice was probably a little shaky, and I'm probably the only one that would ever notice that.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: But like the thoughts and the mountains that you have to move through emotionally, and maybe not everybody has this issue.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: We had this issue, and we were like, what the fuck are we doing?
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: Why are we even doing this?
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: Then we were like, wait a minute, we kind of like it.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we kind of like cringe mountain, and now we're just cringe mountaining a hundred episodes.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: We made it.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: Hallelujah.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, I was mortified.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: It was our first season, I was mortified to hear my voice.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I I hated listening back.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was a really a muscle that had to be built of like getting comfortable.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: And um, now it doesn't bother me at all, which I'm kind of sitting here a little mind-blown about like how far me as a human, this season we had quite a few guests on that I was too scared to ask to come on the podcast for many seasons, and now it feels like no big deal.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_01: So it is kind of cool to reflect on that.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I think I have grown as a human, absolutely.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's and it's funny because like before we hit record, uh, me and Shay always have like a podcast document open where we like outline some things just so we don't like lose our train of thought and all of that.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: And Shay was making a joke where she was like, Yeah, like your emotional support document.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_00: And like that is literally me.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I even like when I'm interviewed on other people's pod, like, regardless of what I'm doing, I need a document open for me to look at.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: And it's funny because, like, in the beginning, the first season, I needed everything written in my emotional support document.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, these weren't just like quick bullet points of like, mention this.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_00: This was exactly how I wanted to say it, and capitalizing words to notice where I wanted to like have some inflection in my voice.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you've come a long way.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_01: You needed like, we wanted to write everything down and like get it totally scripted.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember when I first started talking to you about like less script, you were like, What?
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: Is that even an option?
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Paul, it's crazy because it's like you're really good at like going with things on the fly.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really good at asking people to be on the podcast.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, yeah, anybody, like whoever, like it doesn't matter to me.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: It could literally be like Oprah Winfrey herself.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: I will send the pitch.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'll send the pitch.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: You're coming, Oprah.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's put that out there.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know, and it's funny to think about how you showed up today.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: If we're talking about growth, today you got on the call and you were like, I have no idea what you're talking about.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna mirror what you say to me.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: We're just gonna like be along for the ride.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so I if you guys are listening to this, I feel like this is just like a really good example of like you don't have to know where something is going in order to get the medicine from it because often the medicine is just doing it.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like us, we could have strategized, and we have.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was like season two or season three, we're like, we need to get sponsorships and we need to sell this, we need to make money from that, we need to blah blah blah.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then we just felt like we were over-strategizing it, and it kind of just like naturally fell away.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: I stopped bringing it up, you stopped bringing it up, and we were we were kind of just like, I don't feel like that's the point.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not saying that like we're never gonna have sponsorships or like we're never gonna try to make money from the pod or anything like that, but like it's so funny because as a business owner, we're like not doing this correctly.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like a lot of people are like, Oh, you have a podcast?
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_00: Is it about SEO?
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I literally dick around and talk about anything but SEO outside of like three episodes.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I would say that when people ask me in my normal life, when they find out I have a podcast, the first question they ask me is like, oh, how much do you get paid from it?
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: And it's interesting because you and I, we have made a bit of money off the podcast, nothing substantial, but for me, it's helped me tremendously in my career and business.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: I I was on a meeting the other day, and this guy, we were working on sales stuff, and he was like, Oh, Shay, I found a podcast episode of you talking about sales, and I listened to it, and I I love your opinion.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like, he showed up knowing me and my philosophy on sales because he had found my podcast episode.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, it's interesting to me.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's hard for me to explain to people like, even though we don't have ads running every 20 seconds, this is an incredibly like uh rewarding thing that I do.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: It does pay me financially and in other ways.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just been incredibly valuable for like personal growth, but also like in my career and business.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_00: And it's really good.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: I I realized this the other day when I was like emptying the dishwasher.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: Why I was thinking about this, I don't know, but I was like, I really am like a verbal processor.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like half of the time when we're doing episodes, like me and you, when we're doing guest episodes, I'm also verbally processing, but like in other people's zone of genius.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like our episodes, it's like topics that we're really curious about.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I find that like we kind of go all around the topic and like pull out the different perspectives, and I kind of walk away with like a different perspective that I had initially walking into it, or like I feel more grounded in that perspective.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I guess like I didn't realize that I was as much of a verbal processor as I am, which is funny because before the podcast, I remember when I had a coach and she was like, we're gonna use Voxer.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: So if you guys aren't familiar, Voxer is like the walkie-talkie app where you just like send voice notes.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: And if you have a free Voxer account, you can't recall a message.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like you can't stop it and then like pull it back.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like whatever you say, like people are just like along for the ride type thing.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember refusing to like I had to like take breaths, sit down, like really, really ground myself in order to send a voxer message.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: I was horrified of saying the wrong thing, of offending somebody, of like whatever.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: And it's so funny because like now I use Voxer all of the time.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_00: I like never use the recall unless I sneeze like within the first three seconds of me starting it.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: But like I think that the podcast has a huge like to play in that because like my confidence, I just trust myself so much.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's the same thing with speaking.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I was teaching a workshop locally, and I like got up there.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't even have an emotional support document because like I'm in front of people and I was just winging it, and I was like, who the fuck am I?
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: What is this?
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: Who who is this bitch?
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: A grown bitch, a bitch who is evolving.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_01: No, I think that's a great way to say it.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: I have um really enjoyed the episodes.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: One concept or philosophy that Mariah and I touch base with every single episode when we do our grounding meditation is this idea of being perfectly imperfect.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: And that has really helped me.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_01: I was the same as you.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: I remember when I was getting into this world, I was terrified to see we were on a group coaching container and we had to like unmute ourselves and say something in front of people, and like I would be sweating and my stomach would hurt.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember my initial voxers and doing that kind of stuff.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: I would re-record them like 10 different times.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was a paid workshop.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: And it needed to be perfect.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: And the podcast has been really in embracing this perfectly imperfect idea.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I do edit these episodes, but for the most part, I don't do a ton.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like if there's like an ambulance driving by or something, we'll take that out.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: But it it has given me the opportunity to misspeak, let words come out wrong.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, one thing I really learned from our initial season, we had Natasha on, and we had her on again, maybe in the third season.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: She, the way she speaks and does workshops, she is so human.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_01: And she will let herself like pause and think and pull her thoughts together.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: And we've had a lot of just like people that bring that energy in of like, I'm gonna show up, but I'm gonna do it in my way, on my pace, in my own time.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: And so I feel like what an empowering feeling to have that confidence of like, I don't need it to be perfect, and it's gonna come out a little loose, and that's fine.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the podcast has really helped me get comfortable and just kind of letting it be perfectly imperfect.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: And like, what a gift, because isn't that anything?
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's like we assume that like once we start something, we're just gonna be perfect at it.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: But like, that's why I just keep coming back to like doing the fucking thing is the medicine, whether it's a podcast, whether it's speaking, whether it's literally anything.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: Whether you're taking up a new DIY craft from Pinterest, like you're not gonna know just from reading a step-by-step guide from a stranger online how to do everything.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna find your own way, find what works and find what doesn't by actually doing it.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: And like, yeah, that honestly is like my.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: I remember I worked with uh Natasha on on quite a few things.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: And like that was the message that she's brought through so many times is just like being an example of being perfectly in perfect.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it's funny, I actually got a DM from one of our listeners a couple days ago.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think that I told you about this, and um she was like, Hey, I really liked this episode.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: I forgot which one it was, but she was like, I like that you called out that you were contradicting yourself.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: She was like, Because as a listener, and I mean she didn't explain it this way, but like I kind of took that as like, as a listener, you're hearing people talk and you're like, Well, fuck, dude, you just said one thing and now you just contradicted that with another.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's really interesting when she was like, I just like how you called that out.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: And she was like, Because I tried to break down this topic on my own podcast, but felt like I was contradicting myself over and over and over again.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's just it's very cool to be able to see that like you processing in real time is valuable to other people.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like showing the journey.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: We don't have to show up.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: And that was we just recorded an episode with Jay.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: I really took away hit from his is like be the explorer.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what I want to move forward with is like this almost like scientist experimenter mindset where I'm kind of like sharing my journey and what I'm learning, but really detaching from this idea that I need to teach people things and I need to be this expert that has this framework.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, Mariah and I are constantly reflecting on why are we doing this podcast?
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: Because it is uh a work of art and it is evolving and developing.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, one thing that I am really piecing together now is this what you said, Mariah, permission to find your own way.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was just reflecting with a friend on in a voice note right before this, and even I went camping with another friend this weekend, and this was her big takeaway.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_01: But a lot of us, we know, yes, I get to, we're in this wonderful world of the internet age, and I get to create whatever I want, and I get to build this life and whatever I want, but it's still amazing how many of us jump into online business and then immediately start chasing the I want to make a million dollars this year, or whatever kind of framework.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: And then we're following the steps that these experts are telling us to follow, and then we're unhappy.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: We get there and we're we're unhappy and we can't figure out why.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: And so for me, I've kind of realized like I am a unique human.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: I have to design something, I have to find my own way.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I get that logically, but in practice, what I'm realizing is there's like a skill in accepting that, like accepting that that's okay.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because as I have been paving my own way over here, and I am like right now in a really cool place where I feel like I've built this awesome lifestyle that's my job, supports how I want to live.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's great.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I still am having guilt that I'm doing it this way.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: And is it okay to do it this way?
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: Because this way is really weird, and it's not what mother culture or society is saying is normal.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: So the theme of this podcast, why I'm on this rant, is permission to do it your own fucking way.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there is no one right way to build a business, to set up a life, to get yourself ready in the morning, to have a morning routine or evening routine.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like what we're learning from bringing all of these really cool humans on is there's not really one recipe that people have followed.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: They really, the secret, the juice has been they got to a point where they're like, fuck, this sucks.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like I'm square peg in a round hole.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_01: What do I need to do to set myself up?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: And what do my systems need to look like for me?
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: And like bucking kind of the best practice.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I just find that like exciting in in um sparking my own curiosity and a bit freeing.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I was just kind of like reflecting on like what we talk about, like the through line of our episodes, but like what's the through line of the podcast?
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: And for me, it's kind of this idea of like giving people permission to chart their own course, to find their own way, and kind of sharing examples of other people who are out here doing the same kind of thing.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: And it's funny because when we plan the podcast, that's kind of like what we wanted it to be.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like after a hundred episodes, if we can sit here and we can reflect and we're just like, hey, this is like how we see things and how the conversations are going, I feel like that's really cool.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: And it reminds like I'm just sitting here and I'm laughing to myself because as you're saying all of this, which like I got chills.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I feel like I really needed to hear that, just like a reminder, because like that's part of it.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: We forget and then we remember.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: We forget and then we remember and then we forget and then we remember.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like I've heard that a million times.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's actually all over the podcast website.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: I fucking put it there, like it's all over there.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: But it's and then it's like a hundred episodes in.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what do you mean you're just remembering it?
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, because life is a continuous cycle of forget and remember and forget and remember.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm remembering that it doesn't fucking matter.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm laughing because like that can sound really harsh.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and I'm I don't mean it as like what you're doing doesn't matter, but I'm just like, what you're doing doesn't actually matter.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like the thing and how you do it doesn't really matter, but it's really about like how you feel when you were doing it, and how aligned does it feel when you were doing it?
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: And like what works for you will not work for somebody else.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: And like you were saying about like fitting a square peg and a round hole, it is funny because we do do that.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I got into business because I saw all of these other I worked for like smaller businesses for most of my young career.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: I started my business when I was 22, and before that, I worked at like a pizza shop and and like a locally owned pharmacy and like a locally owned uh preschool and all of that.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just like, if all of these schmucks can run a business, I can fucking do it too.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't know what I was gonna do and how I was gonna do it, but it essentially is I just didn't want to go to school, get a degree, work for somebody.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like it just felt yck.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: So then I'm in this online space, and what's the thing that I'm doing?
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, what do we do over here?
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: How do we do this?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: What do we do?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm looking for another square peg to put in the round hole.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's just I'm looking for more things to build myself into a box that I don't even know.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: And part of me thinks that, like, you kind of have to do that because how are you supposed to know that the box doesn't fit unless you keep like ramming up against the edges?
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: And you're like, actually, I have the power to switch the box.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's when it really starts to click when you're like, hey, it's not structured that's bad.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: And we talked about this in previous episodes, it's not structure that's bad.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: But we have to keep remembering after we forget that we create the structure.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: So if you are in business for yourself and you're like, wow, I fucking hate that.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so busy, I'm doing that, I'm working with these people, or I'm working on clients that I don't like, or oh, I want to explore this.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: You create the structure.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that like it's so easy to fall into the victim mindset.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: And like, I've done this for the past six months.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, aside from I feel like three for the past three weeks, I've been like elated, like I found joy again.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: But I feel like for six months previous to that, I feel like I was just like stuck and then mad that I was stuck, and then blaming other things on me being stuck when really I was the one creating the structure.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like I built this business to have freedom in my schedule, time freedom, very important to me.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I was getting to the point so busy with work and with clients and with projects and contracts and sponsorships and like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that like my nieces would text me when they had off of school and they'd be like, Hey, I have office school next week.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: Can we go and check out a coffee shop?
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: That is one of my favorite things to ever do with them.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I would, I ended up being like, No, I can't.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's got to be on the weekend.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, What the fuck am I doing?
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: This is not success to me.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Now, don't get me wrong, I think that there also is, it's just like full of contradictions, but there's nuances.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, A, asking the question of just like, do you actually want to do the thing?
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: Do I want to go to a coffee shop with my nieces, or do I feel like I have to?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's the question.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: I really wanted to.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like it's just wild.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like you don't really see it until you see it, and in hindsight, and you're like, wow, I've been sitting here slamming my head up against the wall, blaming everything else, blaming literally everything else, except for the one thing that can actually change everything, which is me.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: Man, you said that really well.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: That blaming pattern I really resonate with of like I feel stuck.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then I you and I have talked about like rage and anger a lot this season and like how to deal with that.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I felt that anger, and then I can also like blame it on other things.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I feel stuck.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like I can't move forward with my goals because there's all these other things that are holding me back, but really, like that is just imaginary, you know, like that is me allowing constraints to hold me back and not focusing on myself and what I need to do.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: So that was really well said, and I like that.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to ask you on this episode my goal.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: I just kind of wanted to reflect back on this past season in particular.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm curious, if I were to ask you like which episode has kind of stuck with you the most or like surprised you the most out of the past season, what immediately pops up for you?
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like my head goes back to two conversations.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: It goes to Ramon's conversation, where the inner work means the outer work as an entrepreneur.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like he was able to put into words things that we have talked about over and over again, but he had different language that connected some dots.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Just like reinforced because Ramon comes from like the corporate space too.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: I have never been a corporate girl, I have never worked in like a big time business or whatever.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like I assume that all corporate stuff is like the ROI of the Shme Schmir Shmi.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: And like Ramon's perspective of being a successful coach and him working with founders that have corporate background and knowing that the message is still the same was so fucking valuable in terms of like, hey, you're on the right path.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: And then I feel like, I mean, selfishly, the um the IFS internal family systems episode with Tammy, maybe it's because she walked me through an example on like the actual episode, but like that really allowed me to see my inner thoughts and the inner voices in such a different way that allowed me to just be more empowered.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: All of it.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like all of the conversations that stand out to me is like it comes back to like me being in charge and not in charge in terms of like I need to be in control or it's over for me, but like being in control and empowered and inspired and motivated, not like sucking the life out of something.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Does that make sense?
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: Sucking the life out of me.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: No, that makes total sense.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: Tammy came up first for me as well.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: If you guys have not heard the IFS episode, check it out.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's a shorter one, but it is a banger.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: I have done a ton of IFS and I was like, I couldn't believe how much I learned from the way she breaks things down and talks about things.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: And it has really one thing I think is interesting when podcasts stick with you.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like for me, we're just I'm getting so many inputs all the time.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's hard for me to like really remember things over the like maybe three months from now.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: What were like the few things that have really stuck with me?
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: And thinking about myself as a group of parts instead of one defined thing that is either good or bad was such a game changer for my brain.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like I used to have parts of me that I thought, like, I am a bad person because I can't get can't get anywhere on time.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: I am a bad person.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: And with Tammy, the way she'll talk about it is no, there's a part of me that really struggles with time management.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: And let's get curious about that part.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: Let's ask it some questions.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: What's going on there?
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: What's it reacting to?
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: And that spaciousness around what I'm doing and bringing the curiosity, bringing the good questions into it was so empowering for me, freeing for me.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a very cool system.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: Even though the name is kind of a little dry sounding, it is, I know tons of people that it has just totally shifted the way that they think about themselves.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: And it allows you to have so much more grace and love for yourself and bring more curiosity into your own growth.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: So definitely check out Tammy.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: For me, the other one that stuck with me is Omari's episode.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: And you guys will hear me on that episode.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: I felt like my brain was literally melting and like getting splattered on the wall.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was really in, like Mariah was saying, I was in, you guys will hear throughout all of the seasons, her and Mariah and I try to be honest, you know, we're going up and down, we're all on this roller coaster of life.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: I was in a spot where I just thought everything sounded like crap.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like everything everyone was saying online, I was just like, fuck this noise.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone's just out here hollering about nothing.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: I hate this shit.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was really just jaded and turned off by all of it.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: Because I had this story of like everyone's just trying to make money, everyone's trying to sell me their webinar to get me in their affiliate program, whatever, you know?
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: And so I was in this really kind of like not fun place in hearing Omari talk about the internet as this infinite creative opportunity that we get to like chart this land, like explorers and create what we want to see, and that's gonna be long-lasting and serve other people.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like he had such a different perspective on creating content and being a recording artist and what that even means, just like what we were talking about early, earlier, recording what you're doing and then sharing it.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like he just had such a fun and exciting way to think about the opportunity of all of this, the joy and play of all of this, you know, like it just gave me such light and like excitement and really sparked my curiosity around hey, what are these stories that I'm telling myself about showing up online, being visible, creating content, and how can I flip that into a way that really feeds me as a human, my style, find what works for me is I gotta be having fun.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's gotta feel novel.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta be exploring what I think is interesting and like and sharing the journey.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like that is me in a nutshell.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're feeling a little salty about life, I think Omari's episode for me was at least uh really encouraging and kind of helped me reframe some uh limiting thoughts I was having.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is really cool to be able to look at like what we're doing in the online space as like co-creating our future.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because, and I don't want to give away everything in the episode, but like it takes the pressure off because so often we're sitting here trying to create to make money to do this, to do that, and it's like, of course, we have to make money, but like to be able to like create and instead like put all of these expectations like this.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: This happens to me a lot where it's like, oh, I want to create this, I want to create, create that, and then I'll put these expectations on it, where it's like, oh, if I create this mini course and only three people buy it, it was shit.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: When really it's like, did I learn something from creating it?
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm creating to create, it's not just the creation of like doing it to like meet some end goal of something, something.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: And like his language around things, like as you were saying, it makes me want to go and listen back to it for a literal third time.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like that's an incredible episode.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: I am like looking at our list, and I feel like I could say so many good things about all of these.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: I will say that I'm I'm pretty sure that Kaylee's episode about EMDR, I think that that's our most shared episode this season.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I have had.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: So, like my in real life friends don't really listen to the podcast.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: If you guys are listening, what's up?
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Let me know that you're listening.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I don't think that they do.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: But like that one got shared around our friend group.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then like my one friend shared it with her mom.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then she basically had to give her mom the rundown of like, hey, this is also lol.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, Mariah has a podcast.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: So like Mariah's on here in case you were wondering, like, where the fuck she came into this, but like, I really just want you to hear about like EMDR.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that's I've sent I sent it to like my accountant, my like my tax guy.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: I sent it to like three other people that I literally like met in like random stuff.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: I think like a couple of them were like in the networking group that I was in.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: It was just it's a very shareable episode.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: Kaylee does an incredible job at explaining EMDR, which when you combine EMDR with IFS, and I know that that's like a lot of fucking letters, you're just like, I don't even know what you said.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: But like when you combine that word, that letter soup, EMDR with IFS, it's like it's a game changer.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: But then, like, oh fuck, I don't want to go through every single episode, but like last one, um, the astrology episode with Ash.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: If you are interested in astrology at all, put stop listening to this episode and go and listen to that one.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because, like, using the house system, which sounds like mumbo jumbo if you only know like your sun sign, maybe your rising sign, and like your moon sign, but like there is so much more, it makes me feel empowered.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: All of these conversations, I feel like, are just a really good reminder of like what you want is in your hands if you are willing to take the steps to do it.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: And there's so many ways to continue to come back to yourself if you continue to be lol, curiously guided.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know what's funny is I have gotten, maybe in the last three months, I think I've had I don't know, more than one handful and less than two handful of people tell me that I ask really good questions.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, you know what, Shay?
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: You just always have the best questions.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: You're just always asking the best questions.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I really think that is has to be from this podcast and from developing this mindset.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: But I do think that that is it sounds so silly and basic, maybe, but like we don't spend a lot of time pausing and asking the bigger questions.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: Why are we doing this?
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: What like you were saying, connecting things to feelings.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: Is this taking us closer to how we want to feel or farther away?
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think that curiosity, you you and I constantly are sending messages to each other, like, and did you hear?
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about almost in every single one of these episodes.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_01: What did every one of these people bring up?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, curiosity is the key.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_01: Curiosity is really the one tool underneath it all that guides this.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: And Mariah and I are constantly shocked at like how often curiosity comes into play as like the secret ingredient of all of this stuff.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't realize starting this episode, starting the podcast.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: We kind of, Mariah came up with the name, we thought it was cool.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't realize like how uh profound that word or idea of curiosity would be as we continue to develop it and explore it and look at all of these different angles.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: And it's funny, we've had so many guests on the podcast say to us, Oh, I just heard the name and I knew I needed to come on.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the name should either attract or repel, and it absolutely does.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like we attract our people who are really driven by curiosity with the name.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so I've just been really kind of, I was like thinking back on all of these episodes.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: I have, I don't know why I continue to be shocked, but curiosity is such a fucking powerful tool.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: It is your most fucking powerful superpower that you have in this life.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: And if you, it's absolutely a muscle as well, because it did not come naturally.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of us are taught not to be curious.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like you were saying earlier, Mariah, we were all raised in the factory of come consume content, get taught your lessons, do your tests, and then become a worker, get told what to do, produce.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like we're just kind of all trained to be factory workers and not really question what authority or best practice is telling us.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: So even though it does sound very basic, building your muscles of curiosity will serve you, I think, more than any other skill in this life and becoming someone who asks really good questions and doesn't try to jump in and answer things right away and said, well, take some time, sit in stillness, examine an issue from all angles.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I just think that is the secret sauce to all of this stuff.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I am like almost humbled by how like the universe, our spirit has like brought curiosity on this journey with us and allowed us to like really like see it unfold and grow and turn into this really cool thing.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: And it's funny because I don't even think that our guests are like trying to gas us up.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like the word curiosity, like I know that like they they know that they're on a podcast called Curiously Guided, but like when you're being interviewed, you don't remember what the fuck the podcast name is, but like the word just keeps coming up naturally as we start to explore.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, why do you think like that?
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: How did you get here?
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what made you do this?
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: And like all of that.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember thinking, like when I would be asked on podcasts certain things, and I was like, I like I just had a nudge, like I just was curious about this.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I never thought that that was good enough.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: I always thought that I had to strategize it.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: I had to have a reason why.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: Why did I do this?
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: And like that's kind of why I feel like in the beginning of business, I felt like my story wasn't good enough.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't have this, I wrote down my 10 10-year plan and I took the steps and I took the action.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's never really been about that.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so it is really interesting to continue to have conversations of on with entrepreneurs of all levels in all different industries, and they all say something like I just I had a nudge, or like I realized that I fucking hated this, and so then I had to do that.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: And like there is a level of curiosity to that.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: And what I wrote down that you were saying is like asking better questions, asking better questions.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: We don't realize how fucking shitty of questions we ask ourselves on the regular R.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: I was scrolling threads before I hopped onto this, and that's the thing with social media.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's literally like so much of it, like you were saying, is like noise and like get into my webinar, but like the a lot of it is like just bullshit for clicks, like rage bait, like fucking engagement.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we just want to like say things to piss you off, or like I just want to get more engagement, and like, especially even in the creator space, like people are saying things because your engagement metrics play a big role in how much you get paid through sponsorships.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not saying that that's why everybody does it, but there is this well-known person, and I don't know who they are to be honest, but they showed up in my um threads feed, and the question was if a pod or if a course is$7,000, is it a scam or no?
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I literally want like there were thousands of comments.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: Half of people were like, Yeah, it's a fucking scam.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you might as well just go to college for that.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then other people are like, wait, what?
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like it depends.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: And then I saw somebody's comment, which like, why did I click on that?
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I it was completely unnecessary.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_00: But here I am.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, I'm clicking and I'm scrolling and I'm fucking reading and I'm here.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: And so I saw somebody say something, and she was like, uh, that's not a very specific question, dot, dot, dot, but you already knew that.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's like, that's kind of what like my initial fact, like my initial response is like, what a shitty question.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: So then, of course, you're going to get shitty answers.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what do you mean?
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: Instead, it would be like, what would make a course worth 7,000 for you?
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's a way better question.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's the same thing of like, um sometime, okay.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: So this past weekend, I downloaded an app.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's a game, and I don't know what it's called off the top of my head, but it's literally like sucking me in.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's so gamified that I'm like, fuck, they got this.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: They got this.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to check.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's maybe it's called like town, town send, town something where you're just like running the town.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: Do I need to run a town?
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: I already run so many businesses.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_00: I don't need to run a town, but I'm over here, like, oh, I need to check in.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, is my wheat growing yet?
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: Can I feed my cows?
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: Is the milk done?
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like, can I build a new thing?
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I found myself, like, at first, I'm like loving it.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, I got, I got some time.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm doing this on the weekends.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: This is my time, dog.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: I can do whatever I want to.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_00: I can sit in this fucking rabbit hole and like make wait for the chickens to lay the eggs so that I can make cookies to feed the people in my town because I have an order come through.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, people need cookies and people need bread and people are ordering strawberries.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I was sitting there, I'm like, I'm enjoying it, I'm enjoying it.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then today I woke up and I was like, fuck, I need to check.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, did my chickens lay the eggs?
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, I need to be able to know so that I can get my people their bread and their cookies and their bagels and guilt, instant guilt.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: Mariah, what are you doing?
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: Spending this time running a town on an app.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I like sucked myself out of the ether for a second, and I was like laughing because I was like, this is such a waste of my fucking time.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then there was a little part of me that was like, but it's fun for right now.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so it was interesting for me to kind of hold up these two parts and be like, adult me, or like business owner me, is like we're feeding fake cows now.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what are you doing?
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_00: The little kid me was like, what a gift.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: I used to like have so much joy when I would play video games like with my mom, or like when I could just sit there and just like get sucked into a thing.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: And like a thing about me, I'm not really a gamer.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: I will play a game for like a couple, like an actual game on like a PS5, I can play it for maybe 15 minutes and then I'm done.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: And like a little app game, I can play it for maybe like a week and then I'm done.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so part of me was kind of just like, why can't you just like allow yourself to have fun in this?
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: Instantly, it was one of those things that was a better question.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: Why can't you just have fun here?
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_00: If this is what you want to do, why can't you just have fun here?
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: Instead of being like, why are you wasting your time with this?
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: That made me feel like shit.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, wow, now I'm like overcome with shame.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then just like I started thinking about what I wanted to make for breakfast.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_00: The shame carried through into that.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Well, I mean, you can't have what you really want because like that's not really healthy.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: So and I'm like, oh my God, literally for me feeding chickens on a fucking app literally spot could have spiraled into a day where all of my decisions had this cloud of shame.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: Instead, I was like, wait a minute, why can't I just set a timer for five minutes and just allow myself to like zone out a little bit and like have a little bit of fun here?
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: I did, and then I felt good.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, cool.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: Now I don't want to feed the chickens until later, or like feed the cows until later.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just crazy.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like the different questions that you ask can completely shift your entire day, your entire week, your entire month.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then if I would have let that go in three days, I would have been in this thought spiral.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck, now my calendar, it's too full.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: I got all this shit going on.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even, I don't even have time to play a stupid game on my phone.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: And like, you never know what it kind of spiraled into.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's my very long-winded story of like how applicable questions are, even the little like stupid ones.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: I loved it.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: You had me cracking up.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: Another thing I've been curious about lately, and this is kind of along the lines of what you're saying, is how much of my thinking is influenced by my consuming of social media.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_01: And the example is I watched a reel.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I'll wake up in the morning and just watch a bunch of reels, and there's all these bitches online talking about masculine and feminine energy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: I noticed myself later in the day in an imaginary fight with my husband about fucking something mentioned in one of those reels.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I've been thinking about them as like worms.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, one of these Instagram worms got in my head, and then I turned it into my own thoughts, and then spun it into my own stories in my own dramas.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just made me be very curious about what I am consuming and being trying to be a little bit more boundaried, maybe with like you said it well earlier.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: Just the people that are making sensational content and the content that's literally designed to like game my brain.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I I like social media.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: I do think there's a lot of beautiful things about it, and it does help me and inspire me.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: And also, like, I do not need to be getting wound up about people just talking out of their ass to make a reel to get clicks or something, you know.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it's it was wild to me when I like paired that together, and it got me thinking about like how much of my thinking is influenced by people making shitty content that's just designed to get clicks, like it's not even real.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: Just I don't know.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: Social media is cool because we get to connect.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: I would have never connected with you, I would have never been able to connect with our listeners.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: I would not have I think I would still have a business because I'm not, it's not like a social media thing, but like business is different because of social media.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then we have to also realize that anybody has access to the internet.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_00: Anybody can create content.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like you have to not only be like questioning what questioning what questions you are asking yourself, question the shit that you're consuming, and are you taking all this content as truth?
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: Even subliminally, because I'm sure when you were watching that, you were like, wow, now I need to dissect everything that my husband's ever done to me in order to put him into this box.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: It just happens subliminally.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't even think about him at the time.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: There was, but there was like a concept in there that I started ruminating on and then later pulled him into it, you know?
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's and I think I like what you're saying about like having some discernment, maybe, of who I don't know why I'm like this, but I am just inclined to believe that if you are saying something to me passionately, you're being truthful and you're saying something that you've really thought about and you've really investigated and you've really researched.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_00: Or if you took the time to create a reel about it, part of me wants to think that like you've done your research.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: And that's just my human nature.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I wish I wasn't like that, but I as a grown adult, like it is very hard for me.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_01: If you're saying something to me with authority, I'm my instinct is to believe you.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: And so that has been a big realization for me of like, these people online aren't doing what I do, they're not doing a ton of research, they're not putting together arguments, they're not only sharing things that they have really, really think it's important to get out there.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: Instead, they're just sharing like.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: Sensational shit.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: And Jay Jay's episode right before this was really helpful for me of like, we all, I think all listeners of this podcast need to how important it is that we stay dedicated to creating content with resonance, creating content that matters to us, that answers our big questions, and not creating algorithm, just algorithm content, right?
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like, so I think that is the reaction here.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: And there's people online doing such fucking awesome, cool things.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: We can't let the bad like drain out the good.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think that's honestly where curiosity comes in as well.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_01: Of I just want to encourage anybody listening to this and myself of we need our voices.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: We those of us that are curious and asking good questions, like the world needs more of us sharing our shit.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_01: And just as a reaction to like the bombardment of clickbait that's out there.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it just brings up like we have there's no context in the short form, the little the little clippy clips to get you to clicky click.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's no context there.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because like I I think I said this in a previous episode, but like the same water that this the same boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm glad I had to I had to look it up last time because I fumbled it.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: I fumbled it, but I said it well this time.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_00: But like you're not everybody has the same medicine.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_00: Going for a run for Andrew, for example, might feel incredible.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_00: Going for a run for me, maybe might make my cortisol skyrocket, and then I'm fucking in the gutter feeling like complete shit.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of just like it all depends.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's why I think that's why I really like Jay's episode too.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like that was really inspiring.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and like combining that with Omari's of like, we get to, we are co-creating the internet.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_00: What do we want to put out there?
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're feeling like fuck, I gotta create this thing in order to please the algorithms.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: What do you want to create?
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: What do you want to be known for?
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: What kind of solutions do you want to offer your people?
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_00: How do you want to support the world?
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: And that might feel like a very big question, but instead it's like, how do you want to support the people that you actually want to help?
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because I can also get into this thing, I feel like, where it's like, well, I know so many things about so many different things.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: And like I've said this before, but like my YouTube channel, I do, I talk about tech and SEO and like website stuff.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: And so because it's kind of more broad than like the the solutions that I offer to people, people will often come to me trying to get me to create to do all of these different things for them.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_00: Hey Mariah, will you custom develop me a Shopify website?
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just like, wait, what?
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: But like I think that that's a huge piece that comes into it is like you have to get clear on what you are willing to do, what you're not willing to do, and what problems you are willing to solve.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_00: Because otherwise, you're just gonna be create like fluffing out there, floating into the ethers, and then it's it's gonna be hard to come back to your why because you are continuously going to be blinded by everybody else's questions.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: And so I feel like the foundation of everything, regardless of what you're doing, we've said this a trillion times, and I feel like I really need to hear this all of the time too.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_00: But like it comes down to you.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_00: What do you want and why do you want it?
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_00: And remember that we forget and remember and forget and remember.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, even on a weekly basis, I think that this is powerful.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I like Lisa's journal.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_00: I actually, her just an update.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: If you guys listen to Lisa's episode, it was episode 98, pushing past perfectionism to get what you want.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: Lisa reached her goal of the fucking Kickstarter, which is incredible.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_00: And so I snagged uh some of the journals.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of like what she was saying is like this journal, she created this journal for female business owners to be able to come back to what you want every single day because we forget and remember and forget and remember.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that it's on us.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_00: We have to remember these things.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_00: We have to like make a practice to keep coming back to it.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I know that it's harder in like busier seasons and stuff like that, but like, even if it's monthly, even if it's quarterly, like do something.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I hope that you're not waiting until once every three months to come back to yourself.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_00: But just know that like any little inkling that you have, even if like you can just lock yourself in the bathroom for five minutes and take a couple deep breaths and ask yourself, what do I need right now?
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, this doesn't even have to be about business.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: It could literally just be about you.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna tell you what, when I go into the bathroom later and I have five minutes of myself, I might be like, what do you need right now?
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna be like, I need to make sure that my cows have milk so that I can make bagels for my townspeople.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's what I'll need.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it won't be.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's a really cool point of allowing your needs to change and allowing you need to check in regularly because what you need may change and evolve and adapt, and that's okay.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um you ask that question, like, what do you want?
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's so hard for a lot of us to answer because we are just kind of like drowning in like what everybody else wants and trying to try on different people's wants, like a pair of pants and see if it fits good on me.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but that true discernment, I'm reflecting on like what I want.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I had a really interesting conversation this morning with a really successful business owner who was telling me that in the past year, you know, they had hit a million dollars, they had double their revenue from the previous year.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: But he told me his happiness had been cut in half.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh my gosh, this is why we started the podcast.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_01: And now his goal with the business, he wants to be a millionaire in time.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: That was the phrase he used.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, cool language, my guy.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_01: But there are so many of us out there, even the most successful people that you're following online that are also forgetting and remembering.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like we all got into this business because we wanted freedom, and then we got successful and we started chasing after the number that we thought all of our people at our mastermind had, and we had to have two, right?
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then you get there and you remember, oh, wait, I created this business because I wanted time to spend with my family.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_01: I want to go to the coffee shop when my nieces ask.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_01: This, I'm not living the life that this was all created for.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, what needs to change about my systems to make the life that I want right now, right?
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_01: How do I need to create that?
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's interesting we all say this.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_01: But yet we said it on the podcast, whatever for years.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_01: We said the same shit.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy to me.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: I keep running into people that are having this realization.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: And a lot of times it's people who've already had the realization, and now there's in a different chapter of it.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: So, your point of like forgetting and remembering is so true.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of times, Mariah and I get frustrated because we're like, I feel like I've already beat this level of the video game.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_01: Why is this problem here?
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm already the master of this.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_01: But with all of this, like life is a spiral or staircase or whatever, you know, you're just gonna hit different levels of challenge.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_01: You as a person are gonna change in that moment and your needs are gonna change.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_01: And so you've got to have time and moments and systems in place to check in with yourself constantly.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: What do I want now?
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_01: What do I need now?
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: How do I want to feel now?
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: Is how I'm earning money supporting the life I want to live now.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_01: And in the repetitiveness of that, I think that's where the magic is.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: And to um Lisa's journal, she was saying it's hard to track that over time and kind of notice growth.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: And for me, like I'm just realizing, I just sat down the other day and I was like, holy shit, I love what I'm doing right now.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_01: I love the amount of money I'm earning, I love the schedule that I can set up for myself.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_01: How the fuck did I get here?
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I didn't even realize I was here and I was having the things that I wanted.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_01: So make time for reflection and stillness.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's another theme that kind of comes up a lot for us of the importance of jot it down in a journal over time, revisit, but take some time, even if you have to put it on your fucking calendar, be still.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_01: What do you need?
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: What do you want?
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: What changes right now could you make to take a baby step in that direction?
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: And to me, that is what like makes life fun again.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: And you were asking questions earlier, like maybe ask yourself the question, like, how could all of this feel a little more fun?
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's been the question that's really guided me this year, because everything, as I said, was feeling very heavy.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_01: Everything felt like a chore.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_01: And so when I started saying, like, but how does this get to be fun?
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: Or how could I add a little bit more fun and joy into this?
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_01: That is really where things started to change.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: And even this past weekend, you were saying earlier about wasting time.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_01: I think I want to encourage y'all to waste some time.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: My friend and I just went outside.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_01: We're having like a beautiful spring.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_01: We went camping.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_01: Her and I like separated to have some like individual time.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I just like went and I hiked myself down to this river and I wanted to get my feet in the river.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like exploring and tripping and stumbling and getting caught up in the mud.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I got all caught up in the brambles at one point.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I was just like, what am I doing?
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have time to do this.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was crazy how many times that thought came over me of like, I don't have time to be down here just randomly exploring this river and trying to get my feet in the water.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I it was like literally a practice to be like, yes, you do.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: What what just do it?
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: Just have fun.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: Just you when was the last time you let yourself just like stumble around and explore?
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: And it's crazy.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of kept noticing either I was trying to grab from my phone or I kept having this story come in about how I was wasting my time.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, isn't that really interesting that I bring a lot of shame in when I am having fun?
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_01: So I just think that's cool.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's something to be curious about.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_01: I think there's something Mariah and I have noticed over the last year of connecting with your inner child and bringing play into all of this and finding what did you like to do as a kid that felt like ease and fun and joy?
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_01: And how could you bring little sprinkles of that in now?
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, all of this stuff has just been, I know I'm on like kind of a rant.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_01: These are the things that have been like incredibly transformational for me.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: This podcast has been the medicine for me.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_01: It has softened my potato or hardened the egg.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, I'm just grateful.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in a spot, like ending this season, feeling very grateful for this skill of asking myself questions and then not being afraid to kind of do things a little weird and like do things in a way that like works for me but may not make sense to everybody else.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love all of that.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I can definitely relate.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like the question that I have been asking myself, I feel like especially if you guys want to hear about all the inner child shit that we've been navigating and kind of like what we're learning about.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_00: We do have an episode that we went through in this season, which I feel like if you would have asked us to do that episode in season one, we would have rather lit ourselves on fire.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like that would have been like the absolute.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_00: I remember I brought up that episode idea in season two.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_00: And both of us are like, you want to do it?
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: And then we're like, no.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_00: And they were like, You want to do it?
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_00: And we're like, no.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: And then nah.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_00: But that has been a huge thing for me, especially since moving home.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like last year was incredible in business.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was reflecting and I was like, and emotionally, it was extremely intense moving back home after like being away for a little bit.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: And the question, all of that to say, the question that I keep coming back to is do I actually have to do this?
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because what happens to me is like, I will add things to my to-do list.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_00: And like, listen, I'm a creative bitch in terms of like, I love solving problems.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_00: I will solve your problem, your mom's problem, your grandma's cousin's sister's brother's problem.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I love solving problems.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't realize, uh, I don't want to say that it's uh sometimes it's like a trauma response, not all the time.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, sometimes I genuinely am curious and like I just, hey, I want to like roll up my sleeves and like get into this.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_00: But I was getting myself into a thing where it's like, if I didn't offer to solve the problem or put it on my own shoulders to solve somebody else's problem, then I felt shame and guilt for that.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_00: And you know who's been really amazing at helping me with this without even realizing it is Andrew.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like he just will so often be like, hey, you do a lot.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_00: You do know that like you are adding these things to your plate.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to do this, you don't have to do that.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, it was a huge eye-opener for me, specifically.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we, me and Andrew have been selling sourdough goods and bread on the side.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so we've been doing some markets on the weekends and stuff like that.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_00: And we ended up testing a new market that we've never done before.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: And we made all these goodies and all this, whatever, and we go and we spend our time there four hours on a Sunday afternoon, and there was not a lot of traffic.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like the other people sold way better than we did, like more crafty type stuff.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_00: People really did it wasn't a farmer's market for bread and sourdough.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: I think that farmers' markets do better, but we had to do it, right?
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: And so we ended up telling the people that were running the market, we ended up agreeing to doing like four other markets at the same spot after that.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_00: I remember coming home being like, I don't want to do that.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think that that's a good use of our time.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't want to, but I had this feeling like, well, you told the person, like, so you have to, you signed up for four more weeks.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then I had this epiphany.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, wait a minute.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I remembered that I was an adult.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_00: I had this epiphany, like the fucking skies opened, the clouds open, and it's like God's raining.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, hey, you don't got to do this.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, hey, did anybody know that I don't have to do this?
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so I like walked downstairs to Andrew, and he, I was more frustrated than him.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Hey, listen, did you know that we don't have to do that market?
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, Yeah, what?
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, do you not want to do it?
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we can pull out.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure we could just send him an email, like business to business.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_00: It didn't make sense, like business-wise.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Yeah, I can do that.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_00: I walked around the house for the entire weekend being like, I don't have to do what I don't want to do, which was like huge for me.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_00: And even like, even now, this past weekend, I had nothing to do all weekend, and I had to stop myself from trying to find problems to solve or things to do with other people.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: And it like is so ingrained in me that even Andrew, he saw me laying there on the couch and he was like, Hey, before you pick up that book, close your eyes and take a couple breaths.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_00: Just be here, just be here.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, I'm gonna go do some dishes, and when I come back, I want you to still have your eyes closed, and I don't want you reading the book, just sit here and appreciate this.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: You this is what you say that you want, appreciate it.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_00: And then he comes back in, and I was like, Hey, that was that was really good.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, You do this to yourself, like you don't have to do all of these things, and like so if you're like me and you're just like you get this fucking dopamine rush from adding things to your to-do list, or you feel like you have to solve everybody's problems, or like put out, I used to say, I feel like I'm putting out fires that I didn't even start.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_00: If you are saying that to yourself, use my example as a reminder of like, do you actually have to do this?
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_00: Same thing with business.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_00: Of course it trickles into business.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm over here, like, do I actually have to say yes to this opportunity?
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_01: I really like what you're saying about gratitude and appreciation.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I want to revise what I said earlier.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yes, moments of stillness, but also moments of gratitude for what is wonderful.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's really easy.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think our brains are a little bit like more inclined to focus in on what's what am I doing wrong?
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: What can I do be doing better?
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like constant improvement and well, that's self-help, right?
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_00: Right, spiritual development and like the self-help culture and all of that is like it takes us away from being in the moment.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_00: And like all we ever are is in the moment.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm reflecting on like anytime big changes have happened for me, it's really come from a place of let's say I want something.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I want more time freedom right now, being grateful for the little bits of time freedom that I have.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_01: And there's something about like whatever you say you want, find where you have that right now and take a moment to just like feel how good that feels and how grateful you are for it and how much you appreciate it, just like Mariah did where she was laying there and her loving partner is doing the dishes for her, and she's in her comfy apartment that she's worked so hard for.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_01: But we are very wired as humans to kind of just gloss over all that stuff and stay in the what's going wrong, where are shoes or balls about to drop, how can I be better?
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_01: How can I be more efficient?
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_01: How can I spend my time better?
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I think we do talk a lot about stillness, but for me, one thing I've been curious about is gratitude and appreciation.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_01: There is something very powerful.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we have a mutual connection, Danny Kinney.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_01: And um, she gave me like a gratitude journal when I first started working with her years ago.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I noticed on days when I woke up and I just journaled about what I was grateful for, the rest of my day was incredible.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_01: And on days that I didn't do it, the rest of my day was, oh, I'm in a shitstorm, everything's falling apart.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_01: And it was like noticeable the difference in the quality of day I had when I started from a place of gratitude and appreciation.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I think there is um something really, really healing in connecting with that grateful flow as often as you can and like finding the ways that you have already shown up for yourself, the things that you are already proud of yourself about, the accomplishments that you've already made.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: Because we all didn't just show up, you know, we've all worked hard to get to where we are, even if you don't feel good about where you are.
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_01: There's been some awesome things you've done to get there, and there's some wonderful things about your life right now.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I really do think a lot of this work comes from taking the time to, yes, check in, but also just be grateful for you and like the support that you've received from the universe and the people around you.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I feel like one of my favorite ways to do this that I used to think was only for weirdos was um driving in silence.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_00: I used to think only weirdos drove around with like no music, no podcasts, no nothing.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like, especially in the past like three years, especially if like my work schedule is a little busier, you know, I'm juggling a lot of social things, you know, I'm trying to, I don't know, stay connected to my fiance.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's there's just like a lot of shit that you have to juggle.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like I I realize like I don't actually need more input.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_00: I just want to be.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_00: I don't need more input.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_00: And like that has been really helpful.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_00: And actually, it's like now it's a thing that like Andrew like makes fun of me for and be like, oh well, you don't need to listen to anything.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just like, you're right, because I just don't need any input, and that feels so good.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_00: So if you need some extra space, like I said before, lock yourself in the bathroom for five minutes.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_00: Don't listen to something when you're driving to work or when you're driving to something or something like that.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like try to take a pocket for yourself because it can make a big difference.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: But there's a question that I want to ask you because I think we're coming to the end of this episode here, but what like I feel like during the season, usually we have topics, right?
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_00: We have topics that we're gonna explore, and like these are our episodes, or we have guests, and the guests are topics that we're trying to explore, and like all of our questions and all of our conversations are really revolved around like predetermined topics, but we're naturally curious hoes, like top-notch curious hoes.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't, I don't know, like we're fucking curious.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: So, Shay, can you just like bring us behind the scenes?
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what what are you curious about lately?
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_01: Nice way to tee that up.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_01: I love that question.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I was I was on a walk this morning and I was thinking about when you and I shot that episode around the new year.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_01: I right now, where I'm at in the country in the time of year, it's like spring, it's green grass, it's like budding, it's sunny.
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_01: I feel so energized and excited, and I want to have goals and I've got all these ideas for projects I want to work on.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_01: If you would have talked to me, and you did talk to me back in January, I had none of this.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_01: And so it was, I'm feeling like a little validated that our theory of why are we setting resolutions for the year in the sleepy season and the time that we were supposed to be resting?
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm really glad that we let ourselves rest and I let myself rest and remember.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: That the energy will come because when it's not there, it can feel a little scary, but it's here, it's back.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_01: And so what I am just like lit up around AI.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_01: I know I'm like a little late to the party, I guess.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_01: My husband has been building all these websites and using AI to do all this really cool stuff.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_01: And at night we've been watching YouTube videos about all of these 17-year-olds that are combining all these tools and creating these really cool things.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_01: And to me, the possibility of using AI as an assistant, like Jay said, feels very expansive.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_01: I have a lot of ideas I've wanted to do for a while now that I just felt like I couldn't because of capacity and skill set.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_01: And now they're things that I can definitely have AI help me with and do.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_01: And so I just kind of want to go back to science experiment and explorer mode throughout summer and spring and into fall of like, I want to kind of throw some shit at the wall.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: I want to test out some ideas.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_01: I want to play around with AI and my business ideas and like just see what happens.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like just get really back into explorer mode with online business because bringing Omari back, like that idea is just so energizing to me of like, I can be a part of creating all this and I could create a tool that solves this problem.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_01: And Bobby made a Chrome extension in like 30 seconds the other day.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like we are just living in a whole new reality of like what is possible, and you do not need all of the hard skills that you used to need to create an app or a SaaS or something.
• 1:07:30
  SPEAKER_01: So to me, that is cool, curiosity-wise, because like before you could have questions, but if you didn't have the skill set to build it, you were just kind of dead in the water, or you'd have to find a developer, and we all know how that goes.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_01: And now it's like all these questions, I can really explore them.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_01: And AI kind of can help me with like the gaps that I had before.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just kind of excited to get back to that beginner's mindset I had when I got into online business of like this wild, wild west out here, and we can kind of create anything we want.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I want to get back into that mindset and like try, try things and like see what happens again.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and just see what comes out of like the experimentations and like it's fun because you you never know where the journey is going to take you, but it's literally like the experimentation, the curiosity, I feel like is the medicine.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and that's a really good point.
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_01: Of um, I think a lot of us feel like we have to have the endpoint figured out before we can even start.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_01: But literally, every single person we've talked to, it's the opposite.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_01: They're just like, I got started, and then you wouldn't believe the opportunities that came my way, things I couldn't even imagine, but it they only came because I got started.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's like such a good reminder of like, you don't gotta have it all figured out.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_01: And for us, all of us kind of quote unquote weirdos, it's not gonna look like you've ever seen before.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna look totally different.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_01: So you just kind of gotta start doing it.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what your that's what your people are craving.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_00: People are creating different ways to do things.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_01: And isn't that lovely?
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_01: What a good time to be alive.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_01: So tell me about you, Miss Mariah.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_01: What's feeling I I'm laughing because you are now making bagels in real life and making bagels on an app, but I'm curious about what's sparking your curiosity lately.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's funny.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um so we since we said no to the markets, we actually have some nice downtime until the summer market picks up, which feels really good.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_00: Some more space.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_00: What I have been, I feel like it's it's kind of two things.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_00: One of it is I was voxering with a business friend of mine, and she is a firm believer that like selling is supportive.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I know that like I know that on some level, and you know that, and a lot of people know that, but I don't think that like it really integrated until I feel like recently, and I feel like the spring, similar to you, where it's like spring came, Aries season came.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_00: Aries is also the ruler of my fifth house, which is like play uh inner child, like that.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_00: I think something, something like that, like uh play.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so online business has felt more playful creating things and selling.
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I'm I'm understanding that that line on a new level of like selling is supportive.
• 1:10:24
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I didn't really quite believe it until recently, until I really allowed myself to sit and be like, hey, where is my zone of genius and what am I really good at?
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_00: And like, what do people need help with?
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_00: And like, if I don't share what I'm learning and what I'm experimenting with, these people will not have a solution in a way that they are attracted to.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like, it's really that's been really interesting to dive into.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it's shifting my perspective on like what I want to bring to the world and the things that I want to offer.
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's like, what if this was supportive?
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_00: Was it what if this wasn't about me?
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_00: What if this wasn't about making money?
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_00: Money hasn't really been the motivating factor for me.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so then it's like, what could be the motivating factor?
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_00: Being supportive, and how can I do that?
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_00: And what does that look like?
• 1:11:10
  SPEAKER_00: And how can I combine that with what I'm craving in terms of structure with my own business?
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm playing with some ideas in that realm.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_00: And then strength.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_00: That is what I've been curious with lately.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I have had some pretty brutal posture issues over the past couple months, and I feel like I'm finally cracking the code to it and to like honestly, I feel like I'm finally cracking the code to my 15-year fucking health journey.
• 1:11:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I have been like a mystery case for doctors and for anybody.
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and a lot of my stuff is like chronic and like not that bad to where most people wouldn't even consider it like an issue.
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like I'm finally starting to get the answers and have these different loops connect in a way where I'm like, oh my God, that's why that symptom was happening.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's why that symptom was happening.
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_00: And it's gotten me more in tune with my body and wanting strength for the past couple of years, especially since we moved out of Buffalo.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't really have like a gym close to us.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_00: We also were moving like quite a lot every year.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes every couple of months, we were like moving around, kind of like little, little nomads.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so now we're in this house that we're going to be, hopefully for the foreseeable future.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's really getting me to ask the question of like, I how do I want to age gracefully?
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because I don't want to age like my parents.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_00: They're 65 years old and in not great health.
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to be like that.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm asking, what can I do today to set myself up for success?
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_00: And how can I rearrange my routine to build strength?
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_00: I've been listening to podcast episode and podcast episode about like women and strength.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_00: And after a certain, um, after a certain age, like our hormones change and it's harder to build muscle and all of that.
• 1:13:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't listen to that and get scared.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_00: I guess like I'm so curious about this that I'm listening to it and I'm getting motivated.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, yeah, I want to build a body that like I feel good and I feel strong in.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't want to build a business where I have to sit at a desk for eight hours.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_00: I want to build a business where I can go for a walk and I can go to the gym and I can do workout classes and stuff like that.
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_00: So my schedule, my routine, strength, and like how can I like see this all as a gift because I have an able body to move.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_00: What a fucking gift all in itself.
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like, really allowing myself to like shift the perspective and see it as an honor that like I get to do this.
• 1:13:56
  SPEAKER_00: I have friends that passed away in high school and friends that have passed away in college, and like they don't have this, they don't have this ability.
• 1:14:03
  SPEAKER_00: And what a gift that I also have a business where I get to create my schedule.
• 1:14:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so I feel like I've been really going headfirst into like why my routine was shit, why my schedule was shit, why my body was feeling like shit, and like really just taking accountability, I think, for it.
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've been very, very curious about setting myself up in a way that feels really, really good on all different levels.
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm glad you brought strength up.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_01: I've also been on a weightlifting journey, and it is uh I'm not an athlete, I never was an athlete.
• 1:14:39
  SPEAKER_01: So, like seeing changes in my body and like seeing myself being able to do things that I couldn't do before has been very confidence building.
• 1:14:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it it's making me stronger in other areas of my life.
• 1:14:53
  SPEAKER_01: So, all of you ladies listening to this, get into weightlifting or strength building or anything you can do because I do think it's like the very best thing that we can do as we're getting older.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's crazy.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_00: I've and it's tough because it's funny.
• 1:15:07
  SPEAKER_00: I actually pulled away from it for a while.
• 1:15:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like I used to do a lot of strength training and stuff, and then I pulled away for a while, and then I was like, Well, I don't want to get back into it because I'm fucking weak now.
• 1:15:19
  SPEAKER_00: I literally told my friend who was a yoga teacher, she was like, Why don't you come to my class?
• 1:15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yoga isn't my favorite thing, I would rather meditate and then do other things.
• 1:15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I was like, I literally said out loud, I was like, because it's disheartening when I can't do the poses, like I was able to do the poses before when I felt stronger.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, wait a minute, bitch.
• 1:15:40
  SPEAKER_00: So what are you gonna do?
• 1:15:41
  SPEAKER_00: You you're just not gonna do things because you feel weak.
• 1:15:45
  SPEAKER_00: You do know that the way to not feel weak is to like move through that and start building strength again.
• 1:15:52
  SPEAKER_00: But that was a huge roadblock for me.
• 1:15:54
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, you should.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, go ahead.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_00: No, I was just gonna say, and I have like I plan, I mean, hopefully, having a baby sometime in the future in the next year or two.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's like I want to support my body in a way that's going to support a baby, support my family.
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_00: And like all of that is so motivating.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I just have friends that like have been in similar really busy seasons where they can't take the time out for themselves.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's just a really good reminder of like what can you do right now to set yourself up, even if it's just a small action, even if it's literally like, and I'm not saying you have to like lift weights, I do think that it's very beneficial, but like, even if you could just have some fucking weights next to your, I don't know, next to your desk and just like gain muscle just within three minutes.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm even trying to get my mom to do it.
• 1:16:50
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, girl, I will buy you weights, and then I'm over here, like, here I am, trying to solve her problems.
• 1:16:56
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like I just think that we have such a gift and we are in a society where we are attached to screens and attached to computers and attached to devices.
• 1:17:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that we have quite quickly slipped into the slope of forgetting what a gift it is to be in a body that has all of these capabilities.
• 1:17:20
  SPEAKER_01: Totally, absolutely.
• 1:17:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's such a gift.
• 1:17:23
  SPEAKER_01: I love that you're phrasing it that way in honor.
• 1:17:24
  SPEAKER_01: When you said honor, I like got the chills.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I do want to end this with one question, and you kind of I have a question for you guys that is tough.
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's a very direct question, and it's gonna make you face ugliness that you maybe don't want to, but I do think it's powerful, and Mariah just kind of demoed it for us.
• 1:17:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um this all stemmed from the idea.
• 1:17:49
  SPEAKER_01: Mariah, unmute yourself.
• 1:17:50
  SPEAKER_01: I want to ask you a question.
• 1:17:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, when you run into a woman that tells you she can't be friends with other women, like I'm just one of those girls that's never been able to make friends with other women.
• 1:17:59
  SPEAKER_01: What what are your thoughts?
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's if you've never I initially want to be like, it sounds like you're the problem.
• 1:18:08
  SPEAKER_01: So I have been giving this is like a side tangent, but I've been giving some friendsome advice about these type of women.
• 1:18:15
  SPEAKER_01: I said, to me, they sound like the common denominator, you know, and so this idea of what's the common denominator has been popping up for me.
• 1:18:23
  SPEAKER_01: And you said, you know, like in that situation, you found relief by being really honest with yourself about like, where am I being the common denominator?
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm unhappy with my how I'm feeling.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like, where am I the common denominator?
• 1:18:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I've been asking myself, like I'm told you guys earlier, I've been in a situation where I'm like feeling helpless, can't move towards my goals.
• 1:18:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I started asking myself, like, Shay, where are you the problem?
• 1:18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Where are you the common denominator in this issue?
• 1:18:50
  SPEAKER_01: Anything you're looping or coming up for you over and over again, ask yourself honestly, where am I the common denominator?
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_01: Not everybody else, and not the stars in the sky and everything else.
• 1:19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what about you and the energy that you are bringing?
• 1:19:05
  SPEAKER_01: Even it's a part, it's not the whole situation.
• 1:19:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying you're bad, but I'm saying there is a part of you that is a common denominator in the things that are frustrating you.
• 1:19:13
  SPEAKER_01: And if you can be really honest with where you're being the common common denominator, that for me has been painful, but also really powerful because all at the end of the day, all we can do is control ourselves and our own actions and how we show up.
• 1:19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it and you took ownership over something that 15 years has been plaguing you.
• 1:19:33
  SPEAKER_01: You've been fighting it and trying to find all these things.
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's been an evolution of you just keep asking yourself where, where, where.
• 1:19:39
  SPEAKER_01: And you've gotten like down to the heart of the matter.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like I just think there is some power in like calling a spade a spade, being honest about what is, and like where have I created this issue for myself and what actions need to change so I can not have that anymore.
• 1:19:57
  SPEAKER_01: I can have something different, I can stop being this common factor that keeps this loop going.
• 1:20:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh it just comes back to Joe Dispenza.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's essentially Joe Dispenza's work.
• 1:20:07
  SPEAKER_00: Change the habit of being yourself.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_00: And that sounds rude.
• 1:20:12
  SPEAKER_00: It does sound harsh, but like that's fucking rude.
• 1:20:15
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta be honest.
• 1:20:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, change the habit.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I like me, but that's why I think like IFS is helpful because I like most parts of me.
• 1:20:26
  SPEAKER_00: But there are parts of me where it's like, if I want to get to where I'm going, I gotta change the habit of being myself in this certain scenario, in this little bucket.
• 1:20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I gotta hear heal my inner child.
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I gotta remember that I'm an adult.
• 1:20:39
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I gotta remember that like I'm a creative human that gets to solve problems.
• 1:20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I gotta remember that like I have access to the internet and I can truly do whatever the fuck I put my mind to because it is unlimited possibilities, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't require action.
• 1:20:56
  SPEAKER_00: So much social media content, the clickbaity bullshit is always like, and you can get this by by sneezing into your arm.
• 1:21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's the easy path, it's the easy way.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_00: But like the juice and the sustainable success in any way, talking talking to anybody in business, in life, whatever, sustainable success all results in like what you're doing on the day to day.
• 1:21:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's the micro shifts, the micro decisions.
• 1:21:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I think if everybody isn't offended at us by now, um asking the question of I mean, it's a great question, and I'm glad that you brought it up of like, how can we change the habit of being ourselves?
• 1:21:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because where are your goals not aligning with what you're doing right now?
• 1:21:39
  SPEAKER_00: And that is hard.
• 1:21:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's tough.
• 1:21:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's fucking I'm like over here, like and then I'm like, too hard.
• 1:21:46
  SPEAKER_00: She's just a worm in my brain, and I'm not just gonna pull it out.
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_00: She's just a brain worm right now.
• 1:21:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm the worm.
• 1:21:55
  SPEAKER_00: But no, I think that that is an incredible place for us to leave.
• 1:22:01
  SPEAKER_00: I can't believe that it's a hundred fucking episodes.
• 1:22:05
  SPEAKER_00: That's great.
• 1:22:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's funny because, like in the beginning, our goal was just to do this.
• 1:22:08
  SPEAKER_00: We hit our goal.
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_00: Our goal was just to let's just hit an a hundred episodes and see what happens.
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:22:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that we're gonna have another season.
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I would assume we haven't talked about it.
• 1:22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I mean, I'm going to assume that we're gonna have another season after this.
• 1:22:25
  SPEAKER_00: You guys do know if you've been listeners of the pod for a while, we do like to take an intermission.
• 1:22:31
  SPEAKER_00: We like to take a little breaky break in between sessions for our schedule and for us to really get clear on like what we want to bring to the world.
• 1:22:39
  SPEAKER_00: We we try to be very intentional with the podcast and with the guests and and with conversations and topics that we bring up.
• 1:22:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um we're excited.
• 1:22:48
  SPEAKER_00: We're grateful for you guys for being here with us, for listening to this episode.
• 1:22:53
  SPEAKER_00: We're grateful for your support, for your DMs, for you sharing these episodes.
• 1:22:59
  SPEAKER_00: We love it, we love you.
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Is there anything else?
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 1:23:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think we're ready to close this episode, this season, and these first hundred episodes down.
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_00: So remember, friends, that you have the power to create whatever the fuck you want.
• 1:23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Follow the nudge, ask questions, and let curiosity guide the way.
• 1:23:24
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see you in the next season.