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'Hearding Cats' w/ The Carlton Jug Band · You Call That Radio?

• 0:08
  Speaker A: Up ahead on the road.
• 0:11
  Speaker A: I see myself.
• 0:14
  Speaker A: Up ahead on the road I grumble and fall.
• 0:21
  Speaker A: Up ahead on the road.
• 0:24
  Speaker B: I scream and shout.
• 0:27
  Speaker A: Up ahead on the road I lick my tears of doubt.
• 0:33
  Speaker A: May I be well.
• 0:37
  Speaker A: May I be happy.
• 0:40
  Speaker A: May I be free.
• 0:43
  Speaker A: With some peace of mind.
• 0:47
  Speaker A: May I be well.
• 0:50
  Speaker A: May I be happy.
• 0:53
  Speaker A: May I be free.
• 0:56
  Speaker A: With some peace of mind Sam.
• 1:29
  Speaker A: So full of grace.
• 1:33
  Speaker A: Blessed are we.
• 1:36
  Speaker A: This you will raise.
• 1:39
  Speaker A: I say your prayer I say you'd pray.
• 1:47
  Speaker A: And the words trickle out of my mind Piece of cloud.
• 1:52
  Speaker A: And my pain falls.
• 1:56
  Speaker A: Oh, it falls.
• 2:03
  Speaker A: I am happy.
• 2:06
  Speaker A: I am free.
• 2:12
  Speaker C: Oh, sorry, I didn't see you there. I was just reading my book.
• 2:17
  Speaker C: Just reading my book.
• 2:21
  Speaker C: Welcome.
• 2:24
  Speaker C: Welcome to EcoDar Radio TV. We've got a special treat for you tonight. We have Glasgow Legends, the Caroten Jug Band on the show and they play regularly. You'll find them at the Clif Avant Guard and many institutions from Glasgow and beyond. But tomorrow night they will be playing the SWG3 with their friends, good friends, Alabama 3. So I'm sure they'll be buzzing for that. They've also got a new ep, a new album, and they also run Carrollton Studios, which is my favorite rehearsal studio, and as far as I'm concerned, the heartbeat of the local music scene. I think we can go live to Leslie and Barney just now. Okay, let's try. Can we? I think we can. There we are. Hello. How you doing? Hello. How's it going, guys?
• 3:28
  Speaker B: Yeah, good, good, good.
• 3:30
  Speaker C: Is he excited? Is she excited? Alabama 3 tomorrow?
• 3:33
  Speaker B: Yeah, very excited. Always excited to play or go and see or do a mojo thing with the Alabama 3.
• 3:42
  Speaker C: It's a. It's always good times for people that don't know. So it could be. Because obviously you just go way back with Alabama 3 and it's always great when they get you on stage or when the infamous after parties, whether they've been at Carol in the Vietnamese. The first one I went to was at the sound house. That was a while back now. That was the yesterday. And yeah, there's always a. An HB surprise, even though it happens almost every time, I think when the Alabama 3 join news for a few tunes as well. But this is this. You're actually playing on the same bill. So. Yeah. Can you tell us what's the background, AL 3? What's the connection?
• 4:24
  Speaker B: Huh? So I think what was the original connection, Bernie?
• 4:28
  Speaker D: Well.
• 4:30
  Speaker D: What happened really was we used to have a guy working in a Studio, Robert McGinley.
• 4:37
  Speaker D: He toured with the Blue Bells and what have you it was keyboards player.
• 4:43
  Speaker D: And.
• 4:44
  Speaker D: He was friendly with.
• 4:49
  Speaker D: Johnny Mojo, John McManus.
• 4:53
  Speaker D: And at that time Robert Brown was getting released from his 25 year tenure and in the neck.
• 5:05
  Speaker C: And.
• 5:07
  Speaker D: So Robert was writing with. With the help of Clover, the band Clover.
• 5:15
  Speaker D: They were writing a kind of.
• 5:20
  Speaker D: They were doing a documentary and they were doing the music. Anyway, Mark and. And show the. The lot from Mojo came in to visit Robert one night and that was the start of it. You know, I'm getting involved with Mojo. I know he got involved with mojo and John McManus was very friendly with Rob and Jake from his time down in London.
• 5:50
  Speaker D: And they were coming up like Rob came up himself. Then another time he came up with a neck, you know, just did. We were doing Mojo were doing parties and. What's that place?
• 6:09
  Speaker B: What? Sound house?
• 6:10
  Speaker D: No, no, not long before then.
• 6:12
  Speaker B: Long before the sound house and then.
• 6:14
  Speaker D: Yeah, where was it?
• 6:15
  Speaker B: I need more clues.
• 6:16
  Speaker D: Just near.
• 6:19
  Speaker B: Oh no. Welcome to our life. What's the name of that place that we used to go?
• 6:23
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 6:26
  Speaker B: Carnival accent.
• 6:30
  Speaker C: For people that don't know about Mojo. What is. What is Mojo? For people that don't know.
• 6:35
  Speaker D: Sorry.
• 6:35
  Speaker B: So Mojo was set up with Paddy Hill, who was one of the Birmingham six wrongly convicted for that bombing and he set it up. Paddy Hill set it up with John McManus. Miscarriage of justice organization to support people who have been wrongly convicted. And sadly it's having to still go strong because there are so many wrong convictions. People in.
• 6:59
  Speaker D: Yeah. And the Alabama 3 have been massive supporters over the years, Mark, with Mojo, they couldn't. Couldn't possibly do any more, could they?
• 7:11
  Speaker B: Yeah, they're great. They've been really supportive. Done lots of after show parties to fundraise for that.
• 7:17
  Speaker C: Yeah, I've been in many of them and it's just like the. Because usually the Alabama 3 play the last night of their tour in Glasgow so that they can let loose a little bit. But this time it wasn't. They're starting their UK tour in Glasgow this time around.
• 7:31
  Speaker B: Yeah, we've sadly, we've not got an after show party this time because it.
• 7:35
  Speaker D: Was like a school day.
• 7:37
  Speaker B: A school day, you know.
• 7:38
  Speaker D: And.
• 7:39
  Speaker B: Yeah, we'll catch them next time.
• 7:43
  Speaker D: It's not really ideal for.
• 7:47
  Speaker D: Madness.
• 7:48
  Speaker C: Yeah, they're still early on in the field. They need to sleep.
• 7:54
  Speaker B: Yep.
• 7:55
  Speaker C: I should say so. I thought you were launching a new ep, but you're telling me you're launching a new album as well. So. Hold on, I've got. I've got some images here, so I've Been here before. So we're starting with ep. Is that right?
• 8:08
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's the one. That's my granny and grandpa on the front cover, by the way.
• 8:13
  Speaker C: Oh, salvation.
• 8:15
  Speaker B: It's a good outfo, isn't it?
• 8:16
  Speaker C: That's a cracker. What was. When, when was that? Do you know when that was taken, roughly?
• 8:22
  Speaker B: Oh, I think it was about the 1920s. The late 1920s, I think. Yeah, yeah.
• 8:29
  Speaker C: Were they musical?
• 8:31
  Speaker B: My grandpa played the accordion, although I never heard them play it, but he did have a movie in the house.
• 8:38
  Speaker B: And my granny used to sing, so.
• 8:42
  Speaker B: There was never any instruments at family parties. It was more just singing, just singing, you know, old style.
• 8:49
  Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. And what is the. So the eps out, I think you're waiting on.
• 8:55
  Speaker B: We're literally waiting on the guy to knock the door. I might have to go to get there. Like we're ready.
• 9:03
  Speaker C: I've been waiting. I. I thought. I thought I'd. My books arrived yesterday but it was a box of crisps. But they have arrived. It was. It wasn't actually crisps, it was just my shopping. I'm after crisps.
• 9:13
  Speaker B: But it was a great cover.
• 9:17
  Speaker C: Yeah, that's shown as Skyler did, that one. It's back to front. I think it's back to front here if I mirrored the cam. But yeah, it's good, it's good. I went for a wee walk to try and read it but I'm too nervous to read it in case there's any mistakes, so I'm just going to.
• 9:32
  Speaker B: There'll be mistakes, but don't. Doesn't matter.
• 9:35
  Speaker C: I couldn't get a coffee after 2 o' clock in this island, so I just came back home instead because I don't want it. What I did is post it to everybody and then hopefully get some kind of good feedback and then I'll read it. Yeah, I mean I did write it. I did write it, so I kind of know it's in it anyway. But this isn't it. It's no up at me. It's a good news, guys. Right, let's get back on the news. So the ep, the guy's going to chop the door every minute and fingers crossed you'll have the CDs ready.
• 10:03
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 10:04
  Speaker C: Tomorrow for anybody who's going to the Alabama 3 gig or thinking about going. Is there still tickets available and what time are you guys going to be on it?
• 10:12
  Speaker B: I believe there are tickets still available. Some tickets we're on. The doors open at 7 and we're on 10 past until 20 past because they had to cut our set because they have. There's some disco load in at 10 o', clock, so the two Sportbacks have got 20 minutes each. So we were doing a rehearsal last night with the stopwatch.
• 10:33
  Speaker B: They stop him. Keep going.
• 10:36
  Speaker C: You just don't need a stopwatch. But surely.
• 10:38
  Speaker B: Well, we bloody do. We're like. There's a lot of faffers in that band.
• 10:46
  Speaker C: I see news. The most recent time. I see news was. It was actually. It would have been a year ago. It was the Mojo after party. The Alabama 3 played the Academy and then we all went back to the studios and used run. Fine form. It was. It was really good. So when the. How is this. How is this deciding your. Your. Your set list? How. How did you do that?
• 11:10
  Speaker B: Right, well, we're doing. The set list is mainly the original tunes, which is all on the ep, which is a new thing for us because for years we've always played covers. Although I don't like to think of them as covers because I think we used to have a motto for the band which is never the same twice. So, you know, we basically just played it.
• 11:31
  Speaker C: Your inter. Your interpretation.
• 11:33
  Speaker B: Exactly.
• 11:35
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 11:36
  Speaker B: So we were doing that for years, interpreting music and then now I've started writing some tunes and the band are really up for playing them, which is great. And really doing their thing with them and making them really shine. So I'm delighted. So. So most of the set is from the EP originals.
• 11:55
  Speaker C: Amazing. And so you've got an album as well.
• 11:59
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 12:02
  Speaker C: Which I can relate to. I think we. I nearly called an album Heard Them Cats once, many months ago, because we were. I mean, they weren't even Cats. I don't know what was wrong with my band back then, but I don't. I don't think we ever got a band member to turn up. In fact, I don't know if you remember this one, but one I. Because obviously I did all the stuff in my band. I'm the manager as well. And one time I gave the bassist one job and that was to book the. The studio and he booked Carrollton and Dixon street. And then I phoned you and you weren't the best place of me, to put it mildly, because John had forgotten to cancel one of them, so ended up. But I went to. I went on. I was a bit. I was a bit scared. That pissed you off? So I went on STV that night and then I was like, I respect. Because you're like, show me some respect, I think you said. And I was like the Place I respect the most is the Carroll in Studios. I said on Stevie miss that bit. No, no, I did, I did a big. I was like the word of what Carlton Studios does for the scene is unreal. Unreal.
• 13:15
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 13:16
  Speaker C: And it's true as well. How long has the Carlton Studios been a thing?
• 13:21
  Speaker D: 35 years.
• 13:22
  Speaker C: 35 years, man. And what has changed?
• 13:29
  Speaker D: Nothing.
• 13:33
  Speaker B: That's a lie. In what respect? In what respect?
• 13:36
  Speaker C: Well, just. Just how. How does it, how does it feel? Cuz 35 years is a long time to sort of. Because obviously user at the cutting edge of the grassroots scene. So I'm suppose I'm a bit curious. So I. I've probably been. I've probably been about. For about eight, well 16 years I think we've been playing lifer. So before that I would just kind of go to. To gigs and I didn't really. I didn't, you know, all the smoking mirrors. I didn't really know what was going on. Do you feel like the. The. Is it harder for bands just now, would you say? Or how. How is it feeling on the ground level? Are you seeing lots of new bands coming through, that kind of thing?
• 14:21
  Speaker D: Yeah.
• 14:24
  Speaker D: Well I think.
• 14:27
  Speaker D: Over the years the kind of.
• 14:31
  Speaker D: Bands coming through, there's less bands coming through and getting blotted and. No, really, they're all kind of quite serious about themselves, Mark, you know, in terms of getting well rehearsed and all the rest of it and I think that's. But a lot of. Because we.
• 14:53
  Speaker D: Cheap and cheerful we get a lot of young bands coming in.
• 14:59
  Speaker D: And they're really, you know, on the ball really are a lot of them.
• 15:08
  Speaker B: I think in terms of bands getting gigs, I think it's definitely got harder.
• 15:12
  Speaker D: It has got harder.
• 15:15
  Speaker D: Definitely.
• 15:15
  Speaker B: I mean Barney's, you've been gigging since the 70s, haven't you? So I mean you'll have seen a lot of change.
• 15:22
  Speaker D: I.
• 15:22
  Speaker B: In terms I'm probably. Probably still getting the same wage. I think we're still getting the same wage from the 70s.
• 15:27
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 15:28
  Speaker B: In the. In the pubs and clubs, you know.
• 15:33
  Speaker B: Better in the 70s.
• 15:36
  Speaker B: Of course.
• 15:37
  Speaker C: Well it just seems like the price of everything goes up but payment never goes up. That seems to be the. The thing. I think there's a. A famous. Somebody told me this that it's been standard practice when you're supporting a big band. You get a £50 if you.
• 15:55
  Speaker D: We.
• 15:56
  Speaker C: We don't get many of them to be honest, but we did support a famous band a couple of times and that's still the case. We got a 50 pound and invoices for 50 pounds. And I think that was back in the 70s that that was the. It's a standard. Of course we were only complaining because we got to play with, you know, a really good band and yeah, I'm going to take that back but it just seems that, yeah, the payment never goes up what you want to do. But we were just, you know, we just put our tickets on for our last gig yesterday and trying to price it is difficult because people are skin.
• 16:31
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 16:31
  Speaker C: So what the ticket, when we started, I think it was a fiverr a ticket and we only went up to a tenor about five years ago.
• 16:40
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 16:40
  Speaker C: And then we were kind of creeping up to £15. But you're just worried that what, what it actually cost compared to 2008, it's a 20 pound ticket.
• 16:51
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:53
  Speaker C: You don't want to do that.
• 16:55
  Speaker B: I know it's a tough life in the music world.
• 17:00
  Speaker B: You just gotta have the passion to keep going really, isn't it? That's what keeps you going. It's certainly not the money.
• 17:04
  Speaker D: I mean for instance, now you play, you play a lot of festivals. Yeah, right. So what kind of money do you get off the festivals you have to.
• 17:15
  Speaker A: Pay.
• 17:18
  Speaker C: The meant to pay you or what they actually pay you? Festivals, you. We are quite lucky that we normally get. We, we have a price that we ask for and they have a price that they offer us and we usually meet somewhere in the middle and for me personally, I love, I love playing festivals.
• 17:40
  Speaker D: Usually.
• 17:41
  Speaker C: Usually love playing festivals. So it's. If you can get, you know, your friend or your partner and you're getting a few people in in the guest day and you go home with some one in your pocket, then you've had a good weekend. But it's certainly not, it's certainly not. I would say that it's. We get paid enough, you know what to. It doesn't cost you anything to go to the festival and have a good time. You know, you'll get your food and your drinks covered and. Yeah, but you, it's really hard to. Yeah, you're not spending any money if that makes sense. But you're not, you're not coming back, you're not stacking cash and we play it. We pretty much played, played every weekend. But you're not, it's.
• 18:24
  Speaker B: Yeah, you're going for the good time, aren't you?
• 18:27
  Speaker C: You're going for the good time. But I'm getting older now, so my good times are trying to change. You know, I'm. I'm on the winter water. I'm on the chai tea.
• 18:36
  Speaker B: Very good.
• 18:37
  Speaker C: Yes. And. Yeah, man, I can't. I. I think that. Oh, you don't need alcohol to have a good time. But the way that I used to do festivals was after the gig, having.
• 18:50
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker C: Having fun. So it's a wee bit. It's a wee bit of a different experience when you're doing that. Like the weather matters more when you're sober, I think.
• 19:02
  Speaker B: Yeah. Because you notice it.
• 19:05
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 19:06
  Speaker C: Rather than just diving about the mud with rain pelting off your face, having a. Having a good day.
• 19:10
  Speaker B: Yeah. Not giving a damn. Yeah. It's a whole new experience when you're sober. Yep.
• 19:15
  Speaker C: But also the festivals are struggling, so it's not like. I think there's a. A misconception that the festivals themselves are just making loads of money and that's.
• 19:27
  Speaker B: It's hard to make money and it. Yeah. And at the festivals as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:34
  Speaker C: The only people I think that do all right. Is maybe the. The bookers for the big bands.
• 19:40
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 19:42
  Speaker B: Yeah. Excuse me. Yep.
• 19:46
  Speaker C: But festival wise, you. I mean, you were. You nearly played Aaron with Solar Face, but obviously.
• 19:53
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 19:55
  Speaker C: Do you mind talking about that, Barley? Why you didn't play with Solarfist?
• 19:58
  Speaker B: We're talking about. Because we nearly played the festival that Mark was organizing in Adam and we were all booked to come.
• 20:04
  Speaker D: We were all booked. And then.
• 20:06
  Speaker B: But then.
• 20:09
  Speaker D: What was that?
• 20:10
  Speaker B: What happens? You got your bloody Lego.
• 20:12
  Speaker D: Look at my Lego.
• 20:14
  Speaker B: He's forgot. He's forgot. Just a wee minded issue.
• 20:20
  Speaker C: You. You. You apologizing. I'm so sorry I can't make it. I was like, don't worry, it's barely. Okay.
• 20:26
  Speaker D: And then.
• 20:28
  Speaker C: You barely are playing. You. You had your leg off and then you went and played a gig the following.
• 20:34
  Speaker B: I did three guys. You get out of hospital, Mark on the Wednesday and then a Friday, the Saturday and the Sunday. He did. He did three gigs over the weekend and his wheelchair. In his wheelchair.
• 20:48
  Speaker B: But yeah, that was the big carrot, wasn't it, to, you know, to get out and get going and just get back into music and. Yeah.
• 20:56
  Speaker C: Did you not want to take a break, Barney? Did you not feel like taking a break at all?
• 21:01
  Speaker B: He's asking, did you take. Did you not fancy taking a break? I mean.
• 21:04
  Speaker D: Nah.
• 21:05
  Speaker C: Nah.
• 21:07
  Speaker B: He felt the break was in the hospital when they had the operation. That was enough break for him. That was it.
• 21:12
  Speaker D: Definitely.
• 21:15
  Speaker C: A regular. Because obviously he's always seemed to be playing every weekend. Is it a. Is a rhyme or reason to It. Or is there people. Is there a specific day like that?
• 21:29
  Speaker B: A residency in Avant Garde in King street in the Merchant City. So that's first Friday.
• 21:36
  Speaker C: First Friday month for people that don't know where Avangard. It's just next door to the old 13th note.
• 21:40
  Speaker B: Yep, that's the one right next door. It's a lovely venue. It's got a nice stage and it's got a nice dance floor, does nice food. So yeah, it's a nice place and.
• 21:50
  Speaker D: We do a lot of stuff in the Scotia and. And the Cluth and the Clutha.
• 21:56
  Speaker C: Mark. So yeah, is there. So sorry. So Avant Garde, First Saturday of the month.
• 22:01
  Speaker B: First Friday.
• 22:02
  Speaker C: First Friday.
• 22:03
  Speaker B: Sorry, this Friday coming up.
• 22:05
  Speaker C: Is it a Friday night? Is that a Friday night? Because the Clifford stuff and the Scotia stuff seems to be usually during the sort of late afternoon time, which I love.
• 22:13
  Speaker B: Can a very. So the Avant garde's a half eight, so start till 11 on the Friday. First Friday when we play the Clutha. It's usually a Saturday afternoon, like 2:30. So we just played a gig there Saturday there was really fun. Was packed to sardines.
• 22:32
  Speaker B: Yeah, it was really fun. And then the Scotia gigs that we've started to be doing the last. Well is a. Sometimes on a Friday night at half nine.
• 22:40
  Speaker B: And that was really fun as well on Friday night. It was a whole load of young. It doesn't take much to feel like it's crammed in the Scotia in that space. You know, the band itself makes the place busy, you know, in that me corner. But we had some young ones that were really digging the. The old tunes and yeah, it was really fun. It was really fun on Friday night because I always feel like those Friday night gigs, you know, become half nine, a Friday. I'm like, I just want to put my feet up, I just want to watch the telly. I just want to go to my bed. But go and do a gig, I can't be bothered. And then when I get there I'm like y.
• 23:17
  Speaker B: Young ones jumping about, really digging it, you know. So, yeah, so it's usually fun a Friday night in the Scotia.
• 23:23
  Speaker C: In.
• 23:23
  Speaker B: No, Scotia.
• 23:23
  Speaker C: And the. The this. The daytime one. So I've. I've caught this a few times just in the Cliff.
• 23:31
  Speaker C: I don't know what time of day is it? Maybe like 4 o', clock, 5 o', clock, something like that.
• 23:37
  Speaker C: Yeah, I think more. More places should do that. It's just so nice to have an afternoon live music.
• 23:44
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's a really popular time and you get all the different. You get all the old gyms like us, you know, who are happy. Happier about at that time. And then you get the young ones who are just starting to go out, so you catch that generation as well. So I. That's my preferred time play, actually.
• 24:01
  Speaker D: Yeah. And actually late night, late at night stuff, Mark, especially in the weekend. So, like, loads of people. Can he. Can he get a bus home and things like that.
• 24:11
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 24:13
  Speaker D: Cut it back a bit, don't it?
• 24:15
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 24:16
  Speaker C: I've got a video here that you sent me, Leslie. You sent me a few, so. And I think they're all variations, so I'm not sure exactly what one I've got here, but let me just check. Hold on.
• 24:29
  Speaker C: Okay, so let me.
• 24:30
  Speaker B: So that's a clip, I think.
• 24:33
  Speaker C: Yeah. So this is. How long is this? Oh, it's three to three minutes. Let's just listen to a song.
• 24:38
  Speaker B: Right, cool. That's. I've Been Here Before. Yeah.
• 24:42
  Speaker C: Okay. Do you want to give us a. Give us an introduction? What are we about to watch?
• 24:48
  Speaker B: Okay, so this is the titular song from the album, I've Been Here Before.
• 24:55
  Speaker B: It's about being in a familiar place that you really. It's a positive thing, but it could be about deja vu or it could be about the afterlife, the incarnation, whatever you want it to be about. It's. I've been Here before.
• 25:11
  Speaker C: Amazing. Let's go.
• 25:27
  Speaker A: I've been here before.
• 25:32
  Speaker A: I've got this feeling that makes my heart sing.
• 25:40
  Speaker A: Perhaps not this house or this street.
• 25:46
  Speaker A: This castle cave or this beach.
• 25:52
  Speaker A: But I.
• 25:55
  Speaker C: Be here before.
• 25:58
  Speaker A: Yes, I.
• 26:01
  Speaker A: Been here before.
• 26:04
  Speaker A: Got a buck full of feelings.
• 26:07
  Speaker B: Makes my heart so.
• 26:11
  Speaker A: I got some people to me.
• 26:16
  Speaker A: They're going to teach me about the word on the street.
• 26:23
  Speaker A: Got peace, love and happiness in my pocket.
• 26:29
  Speaker A: And a wealth full of wisdom. Please don't mock it.
• 26:36
  Speaker A: Cause I.
• 26:39
  Speaker C: Been here before.
• 26:42
  Speaker A: Yes, I.
• 26:45
  Speaker A: Been here before.
• 26:48
  Speaker A: Got a fuck full of feelings, Makes my heart soar.
• 27:19
  Speaker A: Got some belly button gazing. And I know that you're amazing. But I gotta do Persuade That I ain't so bad myself. Cause life is tough enough.
• 27:28
  Speaker B: And I don't want to miss the bus.
• 27:30
  Speaker A: Or be left up on the shelf. Cause I.
• 27:36
  Speaker A: Been here before.
• 27:40
  Speaker A: Yes, I've been here for.
• 27:46
  Speaker A: Got a buck full of feelings. Makes my heart so.
• 27:53
  Speaker A: I'm going to sow some seed. Some dog with roses and some tumble weed.
• 28:05
  Speaker A: High hopes on the bree. Church bells chime.
• 28:11
  Speaker A: Take a boat to an island. Leave my worries behind.
• 28:17
  Speaker A: Cause I'm here before.
• 28:23
  Speaker A: Yes, I.
• 28:26
  Speaker A: Been here before.
• 28:30
  Speaker A: Yes, I.
• 28:34
  Speaker A: Need.
• 28:36
  Speaker A: Been here before.
• 28:42
  Speaker C: Fantastic. Off the new album.
• 28:46
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker C: Coming soon.
• 28:48
  Speaker B: Yep. That's the ep, the. One of the original tunes from the ep.
• 28:53
  Speaker B: I just want to give a big shout out to Becky Wallace who has helped me refine my songwriting skills. That song was actually written on Song Seeds Residential.
• 29:03
  Speaker C: Oh, amazing. Yeah, Becky's. Becky's brilliant.
• 29:06
  Speaker B: Yeah, I've been doing some with her. Yeah, it's.
• 29:10
  Speaker C: I've never been to the Song Seeds retreat. I really want to go but there's been. Because there's so many great artists have went there and became greater.
• 29:17
  Speaker B: Yeah, always.
• 29:18
  Speaker C: And they always talk about it because it's. It's something I've never done because obviously I write a lot but it's just like quite a solitary thing. So I think I would. I would quite enjoy it. I've done a couple of workshops where I've been helping sort of people that are maybe quite new to writing. I enjoy that. But usually I've been the kind of sort of facilitator or whatever. Should be quite good to just go and. And do that. Where was. Where was the retreat?
• 29:45
  Speaker B: Well, I've been on quite a few and they're always in beautiful locations across Scotland. Becky's fabulous at finding old mansions, estates with great rambling gardens, etc. So that one was in near Whithorn, Dumfries and Gallery, I think when I wrote that, because actually I remember the caves. We went for a walk, me and my friend, one of my. My buddies that I'd met there when we walked to Whithorn, the beach. And that's where St. Ninian's Cave is, which famously is, I think the last scene in the Wicker man, you know, when they're sacrificing the policeman. So, yeah, so that's the cave and that's where I started to write that song. And I'd written the first verse and we stopped for a cup of tea my pal had brought. She was all organized, wear flask and her tea bags. So I'd written a verse and we're having our tea and she takes out her pocket three different tea bags and it's these ones that have got different names on it. And it literally said Peace, Love and happiness. That was the tea. And I said I'm having that for the second verse. I've got peace, Love and happiness in my pocket a well full of wisdom, please don't mock it. So that's how the second verse came about was the Peace, Love and happiness tea outside St Annians Cave at.
• 31:04
  Speaker C: Was that. Was that this Year.
• 31:06
  Speaker B: This one that was. I. That might have been even two years ago.
• 31:09
  Speaker C: All right, okay. Because I know that they were in. I know that they were in the Dumfries and Galloway area this year, but I was. And funnily enough, I was only like a. I was in the area. I was in the hills. It was a big storm, but I was in a caravan in the middle of ne.
• 31:25
  Speaker B: Oh, my God.
• 31:27
  Speaker C: Yeah, it was good. I liked it. That's why I was thinking, I'm definitely up for. For more rural. Being more rural. It's. It's good. I could like it.
• 31:34
  Speaker B: It's great.
• 31:36
  Speaker C: So with the writing process, I'm. I'm. I'm quite surprised that you said that you. It's sort. Because I seen you do poetry a few years ago, and it blew me away how good it was. I mean, I don't know if you. I don't know why I put you in the spot, but. Do you want to do some poetry just now? Yeah. Have you got anything?
• 31:54
  Speaker B: Yeah, I could do some poetry.
• 31:57
  Speaker C: I found it really well crafted and well written. So it kind of surprises me that you've not been doing it longer than you seen that you. You did it. You started doing it later on.
• 32:07
  Speaker B: Well, I was involved. Been involved in creating creative writing for about. Is it 15? I've lost track. 15, 20 years, actually. I was involved with Lapidus Scotland. I was on that committee for a long time. And they're about using creative writing for your mental health. And as you'll know, it's all about your mental health, isn't it? You write a song and you feel better. It's therapy, you know, 100%.
• 32:35
  Speaker B: So that's what I find the same for with poetry. So I've been involved with Lapidus and I kind of. I met a lot of amazing writers and ran poetry tents at festivals and.
• 32:47
  Speaker B: Creative writing workshops for a long time. And it was only during lockdown that I started to put my own stuff out to the world. And I had. There was a competition by the Glasgow Women's Library, and they were doing their first cam slam, digital cam slam. And I put in you to put in three little videos. And I set up. I thought, I'm just gonna make this. I had one of these wee. You know, those puppet things for kids, but it's just like a wee tiny velvet. The velvet.
• 33:18
  Speaker B: What am I trying to say? Like a stage, you know? And so I put my head around it. So that was. That was how I made my poetry film, basically just made my head through. And I. I put three poems in like that, and I became runner up. I was one of the runners. Runner up for that. And that kind of launched me into. I was like, oh, right. So somebody thinks I'm. I'm quite good at this. So then I started putting out to all different anthologies and other competitions. And I've done really well since then and got my first debut book out last year. So. Yeah, so I've been doing.
• 33:55
  Speaker C: Was just recently that you decided to. To bring your writing into the Carolton Jump Band, then. So that was why I was confused.
• 34:01
  Speaker B: Yeah, that's it.
• 34:03
  Speaker C: I was gonna say there's no way that you flipped that recently because it was so good. So I feel free to do a poem I know that I put on the spot. We didn't plan this.
• 34:13
  Speaker B: Right. Well, I'll do. I know it's. It's past Halloween, but it's in my brain, so hopefully I'll remember that. So this is called.
• 34:23
  Speaker B: Witches. There are witches who are good and witches who are bad Witches who are small and witches who are mad There are witches with big snitches and witches who were britches and witches with twitches and witches who are sad There are witches who will bubble and witches who have stubble There are witches and stitches get us all into trouble There are witches who make spells and witches who make smells There are witches hang you from a hook Chop your fingers into pieces for her human broth soup There are witches with two faces There are witches with big braces There are witches who can get you into very swanky places. But mostly there are witches who will clap and cheer Invite you out for a beer Help you face your inner fears Wipe away your lonesome tears with an aviation career no need for a cauldron broom or hat Just a sisterly chat and for sure your heart will sing With a jolly big swing Fill you up to the brim with a Mickey Mockle grin to the moon and back There are witches There are witches.
• 35:43
  Speaker C: There are witches he said.
• 35:49
  Speaker C: Well done, Leslie.
• 35:52
  Speaker C: Fantastic.
• 35:53
  Speaker B: So, yeah, that's my witchy poem.
• 35:56
  Speaker C: It feels like it's been witchy season since lockdown. Have you noticed this? Am I just imagining it? But there's just lots of witch themed type art. Very good art. It's getting made, you know.
• 36:08
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker B: I think women are reclaiming the witch thing. And of course, with the whole pardon, you know, try to get the pardon for women who were obviously wrongly murdered, slaughtered, burnt to the state at the stake for being alleged witches, you know, so that, you know, the Whole campaign for the pardon of that has brought it to the fore, I think, as well as women just reclaiming their, their, their witchiness.
• 36:39
  Speaker C: And, and it's also. Yeah, it's, it's wild how recent that stuff was because obviously I think we maybe they brushed over at school that this did happen. But then when you see the dates and I think, I mean, in my writings in Scotland. Was a place in Scotland, the last witch or something.
• 36:58
  Speaker B: Yeah, well, we were the top persecutors in Europe. I know that much. I can't remember how many thousands were killed.
• 37:07
  Speaker B: But yeah, it was probably the last witch as well. Can't remember the year.
• 37:11
  Speaker C: Yeah, I can. I don't know the year, but I remember it blowing me. Blew my mind. I was like, wow. So recent. We're just going to read some comments. We are live and interactive on. You call that radio? Unless you listen to the podcast in the future, then you can ask a question, but I'll just say Ali Grants. Hello, Ali. Hello, Lou.
• 37:31
  Speaker C: And Myriad says, oh, this is already such a lovely interview. And I got a feeling it would be. Leslie and Barney both come across as two absolutely sound heads all the way from Donegal.
• 37:45
  Speaker C: Really, really fantastic singer from a band called formerly of Blackbird and Crow. And yeah, she's quite witchy too.
• 37:54
  Speaker B: Oh, that's a good name.
• 37:57
  Speaker C: I think you love the tunes, Leslie. Check them out.
• 38:00
  Speaker B: I'm gonna.
• 38:02
  Speaker C: Stuart saying my favorite gigs were at Carlton Studios. Yes, Stuart was at the, the. You call that radio gig we did at Carlton. That was a fun day with the gyros. Just after we came back from Mexico.
• 38:14
  Speaker B: Yeah, that was great.
• 38:16
  Speaker C: We had some with a little jam outside but it was starting to get a bit loud and then so we moved it and said save car in the view room is brilliant.
• 38:25
  Speaker D: She's fabulous.
• 38:26
  Speaker B: Oh yeah. What a voice she's got. That's amazing. Yeah, beautiful. And Ernesto.
• 38:32
  Speaker D: Ernesto.
• 38:33
  Speaker C: Yeah, it's all good.
• 38:35
  Speaker D: Yeah, it's all good that night. Really good.
• 38:37
  Speaker C: We should do it again. We should definitely do it again sometime if you're up for it.
• 38:41
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 38:41
  Speaker C: Is it, is it a pain in the ass though, doing those things on the Leslie wake?
• 38:45
  Speaker B: You said it's a bit like that Scotia gig, you know, where like I'm like, oh, just wake up in my bed. And then when you do it you're like, yeah, this is great. Apart from when it gets to like five in the morning, you're like, yeah, you just go home now I've had enough.
• 38:58
  Speaker C: Yeah. I don't know how late we went on But I did, I was like, just, just be clear with me, don't be subtle with me. If it's time to wrap up, just tell me to off.
• 39:07
  Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not shy about chopping people.
• 39:11
  Speaker C: Good. I don't mind, don't mind getting told to off. It's like, all right, it's that time. But I will just continue. I will continue.
• 39:19
  Speaker C: Also the video. Lou wanted to talk about your video. Said, love the video, it's magic. And Stuart also said that is beautiful. And Maran maring this bit. Hello, Maran.
• 39:32
  Speaker A: Hi.
• 39:32
  Speaker C: Mar is giving you the star.
• 39:39
  Speaker C: Cool piece emoji and, and yes, witches. Wow. I heart Leslie from Donegal.
• 39:49
  Speaker B: The video was a wee last minute affair that I just rumbled up the other day. I suddenly did. I thought how am I going to get a video? I need to make a video. And then thought I'll just use all the stuff that's in my computer.
• 40:03
  Speaker B: It was like the herding cats thing, you know, how am I going to get them all together? What we going to do? I'll need a story. And I thought, no, no, no, I know, make it easy in yourself. Just use what you got. So I got my, my, my nephew who's much easier, he's better at these things than me. And so we did it together and just clipped together. I don't know if you noticed Mary K was in one. You probably never. But Mary Kani was in one of the clips. Yeah, I know. She's been interviewed on, on this a couple.
• 40:30
  Speaker C: She's been here. She's been on the show twice and the first time I couldn't believe it was like eating. It was 8 in the morning for her.
• 40:37
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 40:38
  Speaker C: And she was just all the energy.
• 40:43
  Speaker C: Live from Australia with all the energy. In fact I need to go back to that because she did me a jingle. She did. You know that famous voice she did when you call that radio.
• 40:52
  Speaker B: Oh, brilliant.
• 40:53
  Speaker C: For anyone doesn't know ttf, the voice of a generic. A voice of the rave culture. Really. Yeah, I definitely go back and clip that.
• 41:03
  Speaker D: She's non stop, is she?
• 41:04
  Speaker B: Yeah, we're big fans of me. We're good friends of Mary.
• 41:07
  Speaker D: Yeah, yeah.
• 41:10
  Speaker B: But yeah, she came one of the times. So that the clip in the fit. The video is a. What was that pub we played in Partick? We had a residency in the Quarter Jail in Partic for a couple years until we got bombed out for the karaoke.
• 41:28
  Speaker B: But obviously it's cheaper for the karaoke. Not that they were paying us mega bucks of course but they can make More money on the karaoke. But anyway, she came one of the times we played there and she did back in vocals. I remember to Hound Dog. So that's what that we clip. I find Jenny doing super backing vocals to Hound Dog.
• 41:48
  Speaker C: Wow. Mary Kean is a backing vocalist. That is a claim to fame. What? What? Since we're in the name drop, we're in the name drop section. Let's keep the name drops gone. Who's. Who's been through the. The gates of Carlton Studios? The gates, yeah, There is gates. There is gates.
• 42:07
  Speaker B: Yeah, there's gates. Who's been through the gates? We've to do some name drop in here.
• 42:14
  Speaker D: Over the years.
• 42:19
  Speaker D: Well, I know this is years ago, Mark and I got a phone call from the BBC.
• 42:29
  Speaker D: Was a woman in the BBC asking me.
• 42:34
  Speaker D: If she'd heard a rumor that Green Day had been rehearsing in the studio. And I couldn't tell her because, see, when people book up, they just book up by their name.
• 42:49
  Speaker C: Yeah. And.
• 42:52
  Speaker D: American, you think, oh, just American guys.
• 42:57
  Speaker D: We never put the names to the. The. The. The bands. In fact, we had. It was.
• 43:07
  Speaker D: Billy that does the. The Loadings and all that. And they sounded like the Hydro Billy Coil.
• 43:14
  Speaker C: Yes, of course, Billy.
• 43:15
  Speaker D: No, he recommended the drummer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers to come along. He does his own kind of videos, you know, for throwing sticks up and drumming and all this.
• 43:32
  Speaker D: And we didn't know this, but the guy that came in.
• 43:36
  Speaker D: You'Re looking at him going on, he looks kind of familiar. But did they ever dawn in his.
• 43:44
  Speaker D: Who it was until afterwards we get. We found out. So I couldn't really tell you this story.
• 43:50
  Speaker B: The one I don't know. Most. Most of your viewers would know who this is. But mind the story you told me about Callum Kennedy. You know this, the old Scott, he's an old Scottish singer, you know, Callum Kennedy?
• 44:02
  Speaker D: Aye, aye.
• 44:03
  Speaker B: My granny used to sing. I can sing like Callum Kennedy. So can you and so can anybody. It's actually on there. Anyway, he was a really good Scottish, like traditional Scottish stuff. But he phoned you up. You didn't realize who he was.
• 44:18
  Speaker D: I was looking for some recording time and I can't remember. It was something like.
• 44:28
  Speaker D: I was asking how long it would take to do. I said, well, you probably need a day.
• 44:39
  Speaker D: And he said, so bloody daft.
• 44:42
  Speaker A: I could.
• 44:43
  Speaker D: I could record about 16 songs at that time. And it was Callum Kennedy.
• 44:48
  Speaker B: I think he did come in and record 16 songs.
• 44:53
  Speaker B: Unlike the bands of today, it takes a bloody day.
• 44:57
  Speaker C: Well, that's a good point. Because obviously I've actually never recorded in Carolton. I do. Obviously. It's a number one rehearsal studio. That's where. That's where we always rehearse the. But I definitely want to come up and do some recording there. In fact, I did do.
• 45:11
  Speaker D: I recorded Mark.
• 45:13
  Speaker C: I did. I recorded with Colonel must have the D. John 5 once. I did a song with him and I feel like Jake was there. I'm a bit neat. Check with John. But I feel like Jake was involved somehow. I don't know if he was recording a vocal or he was just there, but.
• 45:29
  Speaker D: Jake Black.
• 45:31
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
• 45:32
  Speaker B: Alabama. Yeah.
• 45:33
  Speaker D: I think he done a few things.
• 45:35
  Speaker B: There are a few times for that.
• 45:36
  Speaker C: Yeah. And of course, you've got the. You've got Mince for the Fratelli. So most people who actually plays with your band as well. So you had Minced with Fratellis and Mary Kiani in the same.
• 45:48
  Speaker B: Yeah, that's her backup. I don't know. Max Fratelli's her backup drummer. How lucky is that?
• 45:54
  Speaker D: I know.
• 45:55
  Speaker B: So he's in the video as well. He's in the video, yeah.
• 45:58
  Speaker D: He's an absolutely smashing guy and he's very humble.
• 46:02
  Speaker C: Well, it works. It works very hard in the drums. Every single. Every single time. Because we. We don't rehearse that much, as you can probably tell. But every time we go in for a rehearsal, I go for a smoke or. I won the vape now. But you go out for your fresh air anyway. You've got that lovely garden that Jenny Tingle's done a great job, obviously. And. And every single time Mince is there, he just.
• 46:26
  Speaker B: He puts in the hours.
• 46:28
  Speaker D: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker B: Every day. Yeah, he's always there. Yeah, he's really committed. Yeah.
• 46:34
  Speaker D: I know lots of people come in recording and he stood in. He's done bits of drumming for him. Doesn't ask for anything. Yeah, he's just a great guy.
• 46:47
  Speaker B: He's playing the tambourine in our ep.
• 46:52
  Speaker B: It was passing the room when we were recording and so we got one in tambourine.
• 46:58
  Speaker C: So if anyone is looking for a rehearsal studio or a recording studio, Carlton's got both. He's also do. But if you're not a musician and you want to check it out, you've got your. The famous cafe is there as well, which is amazing that it's such a. A joy to have a. A cafe attached to the studio in case you're wanting to grab a wee room.
• 47:22
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, the cafe's there. There's drum tuition by the fabulous Thomas Sutherland.
• 47:29
  Speaker D: Thomas Sutherland and Yoon from the. The band Dead Pony.
• 47:34
  Speaker C: Oh, wow. They're doing great. They're doing brilliant just now.
• 47:38
  Speaker D: Yeah. He's disturbed as well.
• 47:40
  Speaker B: And Gareth from the Drug band is also teaching guitar. We've also got a fiddle tutor as well. There's a tuition room you can hire if you're. If you're a tutor looking for a place to teach. So. Yeah, it's a big space. People don't realize they're surprised when they first come in. You know, it's like, oh, this is like a tardis, you know, they don't realize it stretches all the way back, you know, so.
• 48:03
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And it's. It's also the. I don't know if you're still doing it, but what I thought was a lovely touch was when you had the special offer for solo artists to just come in.
• 48:15
  Speaker B: That's still on solo. The solo. What. What's that again? Barney? Is that. How much is that again? That's really cheap.
• 48:21
  Speaker D: Five or an hour.
• 48:22
  Speaker B: Five in an hour. If you're a sole artist. A lot of drummers come in and use it.
• 48:26
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 48:26
  Speaker B: You know, and get their practice hours in, so. But you came in and just sing or do whatever, you know.
• 48:32
  Speaker C: Yeah, I did that a couple of times just to just. I was putting on some backing tracks, Jackal trades and just running overset because.
• 48:41
  Speaker B: Yeah, I do.
• 48:42
  Speaker C: And I'll probably be doing that. I'll probably be doing that again because to promote the book, I'm going to do some spoken word, but I'm out of practice and I can't do it in the house. It feels weird in the house, but there's something about going to a studio and plugging a microphone in and you can play to that. The imaginary audience in your head.
• 48:58
  Speaker B: Yep. In a darkened room. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's. That's a place to do that. Get your rehearsals. Yep.
• 49:05
  Speaker C: Stuart says I'm not going to name drop. Right. Okay, let's. Let's get to the bottom of this. Stuart claims, and I don't see claims like I did say it with that dinner, but Stuart claims that at the gig, the Carlton Studios gig, that we played it. You call that Radio Gyro, Baby Sevca, all that stuff. He says that the guy from Westlife was there. True or false?
• 49:31
  Speaker B: I have no idea.
• 49:32
  Speaker D: Could have been. We'll see whether the. We have the tuition room now, Mark, that was the. The offices of the band 91 1. You know.
• 49:47
  Speaker D: That was their. Their management team were based in there.
• 49:51
  Speaker C: Right.
• 49:53
  Speaker B: So I Don't know. It could have been there actually. Yeah, there was. That's ringing a big bell.
• 49:59
  Speaker C: So the guy who was. He went. Did they go. It maybe just went to the Alabama 3 gig and then. Or he heard the music from the boy band offices. So there you go, the guy from Westlife. There you go.
• 50:08
  Speaker D: Stuart.
• 50:08
  Speaker C: Maybe, maybe, maybe. I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure. I thought he was maybe mistaken but shows you what I know. Maybe Westlife were watching the gyros and Carlton.
• 50:21
  Speaker C: It could have been. So okay, so we've got a lot. Okay we've done it with Ashes, that's flown in, that's an hour. So I'm gonna start wrapping it up here. But we got. So we've got the EP again before which will arrive hopefully in time for the gig tomorrow. Yes viewers, Supporting the phenomenal Alabama 3. Tickets still available although get there early because it usually sells out and you guys are on at 10 past 7. So if you've already got a ticket for Alabama 3, make sure you get there early.
• 50:54
  Speaker B: Yeah, we're on 10 past 7 to a half past 12. 20 minutes. We're aiming for five tunes in 20 minutes.
• 51:03
  Speaker D: So yeah, for your dinner just bring a pack lunch.
• 51:10
  Speaker C: And, and don't worry, there's no Mojo after party this time. So you'll be home, your bath is in your bottle by 11 o'. Clock. It'll be fine.
• 51:18
  Speaker B: It's all gonna be sensible stuff.
• 51:19
  Speaker C: You're gonna be it. I nearly. I was gonna say because Mark, our guitarist, he works at the poetry club so I was seeing if we could maybe do an after party there but I need to stay in the mainland. I need to stay. I need to be good. So there's no after party. You'll see.
• 51:35
  Speaker B: I know.
• 51:38
  Speaker C: Enjoy the music, go home and get some sleep. Yeah, and. And then head and catch. When's this coming up?
• 51:44
  Speaker B: Well, we're hoping it's going to arrive tomorrow or tonight. Well tonight was what we were promised. We're still waiting for that knock on the door but, but we'll probably have a wee a gig to. To launch it. Maybe an avant garde but we're hoping it's going to arrive. If all goes to plan, we're going to sell them tomorrow at, @SWG3. So come and talk to us and we'll. We'll. We'll sell you one of our fabulous CDs hot off the press.
• 52:13
  Speaker C: Amazing. And the are he's going to. He's going to do. What do you make of the streaming platforms and Stuff. Are you going. Do people need to buy it on cd? Are you going to. You're going to upload it to things?
• 52:24
  Speaker B: Well, the. The EP1, I'm going to upload that in the new year, so that'll be available. And the other one's a bit more complicated with the copyright. Yeah, I maybe eventually put that up once I figure that out. Yeah.
• 52:37
  Speaker C: Yeah. We've got the. Don't know about the guy from Westlife, but the guy from Snow Patrol is my best friend. That's. We. Eddie shows me Eddie. He was at the.
• 52:45
  Speaker B: The.
• 52:46
  Speaker C: The. The Mojo party last time and he's quoting a. A very old Gyro baby's tune. And no Barney jokes. I think we should have a B joke. Can we have a joke.
• 52:58
  Speaker B: Barney? You have to.
• 52:59
  Speaker D: You'd allow to give you a joke?
• 53:01
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 53:04
  Speaker D: Are you sure about this one? Yeah, yeah.
• 53:12
  Speaker D: Coffee?
• 53:13
  Speaker B: Yeah. You've caught Manawears. What was the last one you told in the Cliffa or the Avant Garde? Somebody gave him a book to write down his jokes and of course we lost the book. But, yeah.
• 53:29
  Speaker D: They're all a bit rude. Mind you.
• 53:32
  Speaker C: That's all right, mate. Don't worry about that. You could be.
• 53:35
  Speaker B: He doesn't care.
• 53:43
  Speaker D: Oh, Jesu.
• 53:45
  Speaker B: He's went blankety blank because.
• 53:49
  Speaker C: I'm sorry. I put you in the spot for your poetry and I put you in the spot for your comedy. I'm gonna go. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna. We'll end the show with the. With one more song once I can. I'm gonna upload it just now. You sent me two tracks and we have. We started with Up Ahead on the Road. Can you just talk about what. That song at the beginning. Everyone held. Tell us about that one while I upload this.
• 54:12
  Speaker B: Up ahead on the Road. Yeah, that one.
• 54:17
  Speaker B: It's a track. It's A friend of mine, Simon Vanderville, is on the trumpet on that. He plays really amazing trumpet. It's kind of got a kind of spaghetti western vibe, I think, that song. But it's about. It's really dedicated for people who are going through a hard time, and it's imagining that, you know, you'll get through that hard time and come out the other end. So it's quite a kind of uplifting tune in the end.
• 54:47
  Speaker C: Okay.
• 54:47
  Speaker B: May I be well May I be happy May I be free from all my troubles. So it's got a. A Buddhist meditation in the middle of it. Yeah.
• 54:56
  Speaker C: And I've got. Now I've got Cow Girls.
• 54:59
  Speaker B: I've How Girls Got the Blue.
• 55:02
  Speaker C: So also, when is. If people can't make Alabama 3? Tomorrow. Next. The next Avangard or Clifa or whatever.
• 55:12
  Speaker B: Next gig. This Friday.
• 55:15
  Speaker D: This.
• 55:15
  Speaker B: This Friday.
• 55:17
  Speaker D: Friday, yeah.
• 55:18
  Speaker B: And so this tune, Cowgirl's Got the Blues, actually, I wrote this a long time ago, about 20 years ago, based on a little children's story that I wrote.
• 55:29
  Speaker B: And I'll dedicate it to my niece, Megan, because she was a little cowgirl in the story that. That got the blues. And I was just trying to. It's a long story. I won't go into it just now, but, yeah, it's. It's the song and the story that got me into storytelling because I wrote a wee children's story around that called the Adventures of Molly the Mercury. And this is one of the tunes from it. So I'll dedicate it to Megan, who was the cowgirl with the blues.
• 55:56
  Speaker C: Amazing. Thank you, Leslie. Thank you, Barney. I hope the gig goes amazing tomorrow.
• 56:00
  Speaker D: Thank you.
• 56:01
  Speaker B: Thank you.
• 56:03
  Speaker C: I'll be back in the mainland over Christmas, so hopefully.
• 56:07
  Speaker B: Where are you?
• 56:08
  Speaker C: An undisclosed location.
• 56:11
  Speaker B: Mystery Island.
• 56:12
  Speaker C: Mystery island, yeah.
• 56:13
  Speaker B: Mystery Island. I like it. You should start that.
• 56:20
  Speaker C: So Cowgirls is coming on the now. And thank you, Leslie.
• 56:28
  Speaker B: Hard work for music. Thank you, Mark.
• 56:30
  Speaker C: All the best, guys.
• 56:31
  Speaker A: Bye.
• 56:32
  Speaker D: Bye.
• 56:34
  Speaker C: And we're now going to listen to Cowgirls from the new album. Thank you to the patrons who support the show and enjoy the Caribbean Jump Band.
• 56:45
  Speaker A: Cowgirl's Got the Blues. Time to run.
• 56:53
  Speaker A: Looking for a fan.
• 56:57
  Speaker A: With a clippity clock, clippity clock on the rock.
• 57:06
  Speaker A: Flippy clippity clock, flippity clock on the the ride.
• 57:15
  Speaker A: Train is leaving today.
• 57:19
  Speaker A: Rain is leaving today on your way.
• 57:27
  Speaker A: On your.
• 57:28
  Speaker B: Way.
• 57:31
  Speaker A: With a clicky clack, clickety clack on the try.
• 57:40
  Speaker A: With the cricket clack, cricket clack on the drive.
• 58:22
  Speaker A: Oh, wide world to see. You got a whole wide world world to see. Take your time.
• 58:33
  Speaker A: And the sun will shine.
• 58:38
  Speaker A: Sunbeams dancing on down dancing around.
• 58:46
  Speaker A: Sunbeams dancing on down dancing.
• 58:55
  Speaker A: Cowgirl's got the blue.
• 58:59
  Speaker A: Cowgirls got blue blues. She's on the ride.
• 59:07
  Speaker A: Looking for her fan.
• 59:11
  Speaker A: Flipper flippity flop, flippity flop on the rock.
• 59:48
  Speaker C: Brilliant stuff. That was Cowgirls, My Carol and drum band.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker C: Thank you very much to Barney and Leslie. I have to say the Sharon says, tell Leslie, Barney I'm watching from Los Angeles. Ray the brass player says, they're fun. What an amazing couple, says Stuart. Myra says, God's couple. Gorgeous interview. Thank you to everyone who's tuned in Alexis says. Such a lovely interview. Thank you to everyone who's tuned in. We will be back on Monday with an interview with Vagrant Real Estate who's an amazing producer from the Highlands who's put together sort of hip hop beats with a mixture of folk trad musicians and also some some great MCs as well people MOG are on it Jackals on there as well so I'm looking forward to that. That'll be on Monday so we'll be back on Monday night I'll hopefully see you there. And yeah add the Carlton Jug Band on Facebook is the best place to get them.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker C: Put the link in the comments so if you give them a wee like and a follow on Facebook that'll be great I'll put in the comments here so give the current jug band the follow keep an eye out for the EP and if you're going to Alabama 3 tomorrow get there early and I hope you enjoy it. Thank you to Leslie and Barney.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker A: Bye.