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Reaction to Trades + Week 10 Rookie Draft · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky, Rhett with you Buck.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's a big day, I guess election day,
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  Speaker 3: and it would take something big to pry that Indiana
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  Speaker 3: hat off of Rhett's head.
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  Speaker 4: He's got the America hat on.
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  Speaker 2: Today.
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  Speaker 4: We're all about of country. He's team Country over over
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  Speaker 4: IU right now.
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  Speaker 5: So Red, White, and Blue not.
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  Speaker 2: I get this, but.
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  Speaker 6: I got to ask about this thing that I don't
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  Speaker 6: know if rhet Senate or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: What's this Windiana? Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, nine Indiana. Yeah, we're just Windiana. Now, that's what
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  Speaker 5: we did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they come from the student store.
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  Speaker 5: Indiana. That's what we do.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if you heard from nine and oh
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  Speaker 7: for the first time in program history. You know, we're
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  Speaker 7: going to take down the national champs this week. And
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  Speaker 7: there's a lot lots of there's a lot to like.
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  Speaker 4: You'll love this.
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  Speaker 3: So my dad, who spent a lot of years in Indiana.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually born in Indiana, but his but uh
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  Speaker 3: was he was born in Ohio. So he spent we
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  Speaker 3: leave more time growing up in Ohio than Indiana. So's
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  Speaker 3: he's an Ohio State football fan, and he's an Indiana
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  Speaker 3: basketball fan, as I'm sure there's probably more quite a
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  Speaker 3: few people in that bucket, but he still he loves
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  Speaker 3: the buck guys. So he'll watch the buck Eyes every
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  Speaker 3: every week. My dad's eighty eighty four, I think eighty
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  Speaker 3: four years old. So we're talking and he's telling me
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  Speaker 3: about watching the buck guys win over Penn State, and
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  Speaker 3: then I go, well, there's a big game illumin on
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  Speaker 3: the horizon with Indiana. He goes, Indiana. I go, Dad,
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  Speaker 3: they're undefeated. He goes, really, he goes, have they played anybody?
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  Speaker 2: I love it?
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic, So I gotta get used to this Indiana football
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  Speaker 3: power business.
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  Speaker 4: Buck Like that doesn't just roll off the tongue.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, that's a mind of detailed about like level
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  Speaker 6: competition and playing the wins count.
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  Speaker 2: This would be a huge test. We'll get a chance
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  Speaker 2: to see them. He just has to see them. I
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  Speaker 2: guess the team that is decent.
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  Speaker 4: Not great, Yeah, not great, but decent.
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  Speaker 5: We've won every game, befourteen. Don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it's true.
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  Speaker 3: for business. Let's get to these trades. Normally on this
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  Speaker 3: day of the week, we kind of look back at
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  Speaker 3: the Monday night game. Spoiler alert, the Chiefs won a
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  Speaker 3: home game. Tampa gave him a good battle. Patrick Mahomes
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  Speaker 3: wins a coin toss, and we know how that story ends.
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  Speaker 3: No surprise, they remained undefeated. I just I We've had
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  Speaker 3: this conversation with him a million times. Deander Hopkins look
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  Speaker 3: good as we know he would, he'd fit there. So
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  Speaker 3: I'd rather just take our time that we have here
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  Speaker 3: and talk about these trades, the latest of which is
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  Speaker 3: the biggest one as we're getting near to the deadline,
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  Speaker 3: and that is Marshaun Lattimore going from the Saints to
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  Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders. Every buddy Adam Peters making a bold
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  Speaker 3: move here. They give up a three to four and
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  Speaker 3: a six and they get a fifth back. So that
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  Speaker 3: is a third, fourth and a six, four a five,
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  Speaker 3: and Marshawn Latimore buck, I'll get to you first. First
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  Speaker 3: thoughts on this one.
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  Speaker 6: Look, the com mander is going all in trying to
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  Speaker 6: upgrade a defense that is not quite up to par,
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  Speaker 6: but it's playing well enough for them to win games.
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  Speaker 6: Now you go get an elite corner to put in
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  Speaker 6: the defense, and we have seen what Dan Quinn has
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  Speaker 6: been able to do when he has elite corners at
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  Speaker 6: his disposal. We talk about guys that are getting their
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  Speaker 6: hands on the ball. We saw what Trevon Diggs did.
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  Speaker 6: Ron blayd that' saying the dear leap, but they were
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  Speaker 6: able to really become ballhawking machines whenever Marshawn Latimore comes,
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  Speaker 6: and it gives you the flexibility to not only do
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  Speaker 6: some of the stuff that they've been doing with their zones,
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  Speaker 6: but now being able to play man demand and being
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  Speaker 6: able to play snugger coverage on some of the better
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  Speaker 6: teams that you're playing. To me, it suggests that the
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  Speaker 6: Washington Commanders understand that the window is open for them
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  Speaker 6: and they're going all in to take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I did just check.
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  Speaker 7: And Washington does not play the Buccaneers later this season.
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, a lotmore. Best that one's out of the
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  Speaker 7: question at this point. But look, I mean, when healthy
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  Speaker 7: Marshall Latimore was one of the best corners in the league.
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  Speaker 7: Like those first three or four years he was in
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  Speaker 7: the league, like it was that was fun to watch,
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  Speaker 7: like he was he was on and it kind of
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  Speaker 7: felt like, you know, he was one of those guys
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  Speaker 7: that had become really disenfranchised with what was going on
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  Speaker 7: in New Orleans. So hopefully Fresh Start brings back some
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  Speaker 7: of that high level play that we've seen from Marshall
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  Speaker 7: Lattimore and and he kind of continue rolling with that defense.
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  Speaker 7: So I'm kind of excited to see and see if
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  Speaker 7: it kind of pays off, if that change of scenery
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  Speaker 7: pays off. But I love the fact that Washington's going
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  Speaker 7: in on this thing, right I mean, like Washington realizes
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  Speaker 7: what they have an opportunity to win the NFC East
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  Speaker 7: and to make some moves with their rookie quarterback and
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  Speaker 7: just kind of continuing to go all in for it
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  Speaker 7: right now.
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  Speaker 5: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean you look at if they want to
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  Speaker 3: get somewhere inside the division, it's Philly.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's the obstacle.
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  Speaker 3: And you look as you go into the playoffs about
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  Speaker 3: some of the white outs you're going to see there
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  Speaker 3: in the end FC and some of the quarterbacks to
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  Speaker 3: go along with it, you need somebody that can they
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  Speaker 3: can help match up. And you know, I think this
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  Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense for Washington. I think their
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  Speaker 3: their timeline got adjusted, and that's you know, being a
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  Speaker 3: well run organization. You have your plans, but then you
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  Speaker 3: also have to adjust along the way and say, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: Jesus is right in front of us right now, man,
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  Speaker 3: why not let's go make a run at this thing
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  Speaker 3: right now? And that's credit to Jayden Daniels of making
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  Speaker 3: them immediately competitive. But I love to move there, and
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  Speaker 3: I honestly, I think for for too many years now
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  Speaker 3: the Saints have been trying to fool themselves into thinking
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  Speaker 3: there's something that they're not and I think this is
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  Speaker 3: a sign of there's admission here that we got to
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  Speaker 3: tear this thing down.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 7: By the ways part, I think there's a thirty one
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  Speaker 7: million dollar cap hit like no matter what. For a
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  Speaker 7: lot of more are taking your medical.
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  Speaker 3: Take your medicine, man, take your medicine. You gotta sometimes
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  Speaker 3: you got to run to the bottom, to spring off
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  Speaker 3: the bottom and shoot back up to the surface. So
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  Speaker 3: that process has begun with the Saints. Some of the
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  Speaker 3: trades here, this one was like the least surprising one
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  Speaker 3: I was in Cleveland over the weekend, and it just
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  Speaker 3: felt like it was a matter of time before Zadarias
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  Speaker 3: Smith was going to get in the car and make
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  Speaker 3: the short drive over to Detroit.
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  Speaker 4: RHTT. That one, that one felt like it was it
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  Speaker 4: was in the works for quite some time.
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  Speaker 5: I mean we identified that.
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  Speaker 7: You know, unfortunately almost immediately after Aidon Hutchinson went down
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  Speaker 7: with that lower leg injury and thought, you know, if
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  Speaker 7: he's out for the season, they got to do something
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  Speaker 7: to continue to try to capitalize on what they have
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  Speaker 7: going this season as the best team in football right now.
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  Speaker 5: So this was great.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I think I think Zadarius Smith will be
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  Speaker 7: invigorated by this too. Like he's sitting there with the
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  Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns and just got a ticket to the Super
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  Speaker 7: Bowl perhaps, you know, like that's that's got to be
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  Speaker 7: pretty invigorating for a player that's look on the back
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  Speaker 7: nine of his career but still producing at a high level,
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  Speaker 7: and you throw him in there and try to keep
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  Speaker 7: him fresh. And look, they've been holding serve right on
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  Speaker 7: defense without without Aiden, like it hasn't been.
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  Speaker 5: Like a glaring issue.
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  Speaker 7: But now you just get to kind of continue to
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  Speaker 7: boost up that side of things with Zadarias Smith coming
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  Speaker 7: in and you know, an edge rusher role in a
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  Speaker 7: rotational role. You know, he get him twenty five thirty
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  Speaker 7: snaps a game like feel pretty dang good about that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to feel good about it if you're
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  Speaker 6: the Detroit Lives because you've been able to kind of
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  Speaker 6: tread water with Ady Hudcheson being sideline.
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  Speaker 2: Now you get approven veteran.
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  Speaker 6: Someone that can give you that leadership but also that
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  Speaker 6: experience that you need as you're getting down the stretch.
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  Speaker 2: It's a nice move.
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  Speaker 6: I'm still surprised that Cleveland is beginning to auction off
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  Speaker 6: some of the personnel, but maybe I shouldn't be.
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  Speaker 2: When you're sitting at two and seven, that's what you
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  Speaker 2: kind of need to do. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that gets into a broader discussion which we'll
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  Speaker 3: have in the off season about Cleveland and the weird
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  Speaker 3: spot that they're in with Deshaun Watson his contract situation.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think the hopes that Jamis Winston maybe
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  Speaker 3: could keep this season afloat that disappeared quickly with all
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  Speaker 3: the turnovers last week against the Chargers. So they've gone
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna have They're an interesting team to watch in
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  Speaker 3: the off season of how they try and approach the
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  Speaker 3: quarterback position. But you know, the best way to navigate
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  Speaker 3: around a poorly playing, expensive quarterback that you can't get
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  Speaker 3: rid of is to go draft one that costs next
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  Speaker 3: to nothing. And uh, it's the only escape route that
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  Speaker 3: you have. So any asset that you have that can
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  Speaker 3: fetch a pick that could help you potentially move up
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  Speaker 3: to secure that quarterback, Uh, you know, I get it.
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  Speaker 3: I get it from from that standpoint. I was curious
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  Speaker 3: to see if maybe Denzel Ward potentially could be on
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  Speaker 3: the move, but he's had some concussion issues and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think that might scare some teams away.
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  Speaker 5: Miles Garrett was never going anywhere, right, I mean like that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was silly. That was like the two
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  Speaker 2: that drove me crazy. Word Miles Garrett and oh Max
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  Speaker 2: Cross whole player.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're going to try to build around it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, who is the identity of your team if you
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  Speaker 3: are the Raiders? So yeah, interesting, It's always an interesting
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  Speaker 3: time of here. There was one other one. What was
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  Speaker 3: the other trade?
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  Speaker 2: We were?
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  Speaker 7: We were Khalil Herbert went to the Bengals. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 7: a nice a nice depth move. Chase Brown is still
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  Speaker 7: the guy there, but Khalil Herbert before four he kind
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  Speaker 7: of got buried on the depth chart. Had some some
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  Speaker 7: effective you know games for the Bears leading into the Sea.
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  Speaker 7: I think you only had eight attempts this season though
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  Speaker 7: that was one. I don't think that cost that cost
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  Speaker 7: the Bengals very much. In seventh round pick Zach Moss injured,
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  Speaker 7: kind of no brainer there.
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  Speaker 4: And then you have Mingo was the last one. That
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  Speaker 4: one was shocking.
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  Speaker 5: That weird, right, Buck?
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  Speaker 4: Did you see that comment they were going to get that.
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  Speaker 2: I did not see that they gonna get that kind
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  Speaker 2: of compensation. But I'm not surprised that he's out there.
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  Speaker 2: But man, they don't have anybody, yea makers.
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  Speaker 7: You know, the Panthers of the Cowboys, Because you make
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  Speaker 7: the argument from I mean, well, yeah, is he a
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  Speaker 7: better Jalen Tolbert?
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  Speaker 5: Is that what they're hoping? Like?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That's a blind that's a blind taste taste test. That's
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  Speaker 3: a tough one.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know there's much difference there. He's younger, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's got Tom left on his contract. It's a cheap
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  Speaker 3: from a financial standpoint, it makes sense. It's kind of
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  Speaker 3: a cheap. Look this is yeah. But I was talking
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  Speaker 3: to a GM this morning about that, and we're both saying, gosh,
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  Speaker 3: that felt rich. But he brought up a good point,
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  Speaker 3: which was, you know, hey, we actually really liked him
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  Speaker 3: coming into the draft.
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  Speaker 2: Buck.
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  Speaker 3: How many times have you seen it? And I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you if you did a study on it,
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  Speaker 3: if teams have benefited from from sticking to their college grades,
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  Speaker 3: or if they've been fooled by it, and said, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, if we get it, if we get
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  Speaker 3: him here, we love them coming out. If we can
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  Speaker 3: get him in our program, our system, our coaching, we'll
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  Speaker 3: get them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a part of it.
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  Speaker 6: And I mean, like honestly, like if we're not talking
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  Speaker 6: about like a first round pick in those things, but
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  Speaker 6: if you have any if you have the right thing,
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  Speaker 6: you should keep the tires on good players. And I
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  Speaker 6: also think, like we're talking about all these picks that
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  Speaker 6: are going being at the bottom, I think it's a
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  Speaker 6: byproduct of the future drafts not me as deep as
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  Speaker 6: they once were based on nil then people not coming out,
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  Speaker 6: people are willing to just give away those things, saying, hey,
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  Speaker 6: what I'm getting what I'm giving up, I'm getting back
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  Speaker 6: something that far more valuable than return. So yeah, you
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  Speaker 6: can have whatever, fourth, fifth, whatever. I think I can
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  Speaker 6: get a better player right now that I can develop
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  Speaker 6: as opposed to trying to identify wanting to draft.
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  Speaker 5: You got another one for us, Retten, Yeah, we got
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  Speaker 5: another one.
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  Speaker 7: And you know what we talked about this exact move
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  Speaker 7: right after Russell Wilson's first start on this show. Mike
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  Speaker 7: Williams no longer in New York Jet now heading to
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  Speaker 7: the Pittsburgh Steelers to catch moon balls from Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 3: All right, this is this is a challenge for Nobil.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna lay down the challenge because if you're listening
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  Speaker 3: to the show right now, right now, no Bill is
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  Speaker 3: going to insert that little slippet, that little conversation that
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  Speaker 3: we had, and he's gonna tell give us the date,
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  Speaker 3: Nobil of when that was, because it was a day
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  Speaker 3: after that Steeler's uh game.
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  Speaker 4: It was a Sunday night, I think.
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  Speaker 3: So so we need the date on that, and we
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  Speaker 3: need you to drop that conversation in so we can
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  Speaker 3: say how many weekdays.
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  Speaker 7: October twentieth, so it would have been the Monday, October
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  Speaker 7: twenty first recapch Yeah, three.
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  Speaker 3: Weeks ago we said this was the perfect fit for
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  Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers, so go ahead insert it now. You
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  Speaker 3: talked about how they're playing physical, running the ball, getting
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  Speaker 3: the tight ends involved with Friarmouth and with Washington, and
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  Speaker 3: then big shot opportunities down the field and rhtt. This
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  Speaker 3: is the one that I was thinking of watching this game.
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching on the other side, Mike Williams, who's been,
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  Speaker 3: you know, publicly embarrassed by Aaron Rodgers after a game.
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  Speaker 3: You go out and you get Davante Adams, so he
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  Speaker 3: falls further down the pecking order. He didn't practice early
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  Speaker 3: in the week. I don't know what was going on there,
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  Speaker 3: but it sounds like obviously he'd have a legitimate reason
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  Speaker 3: to not want to be a New York Jet and
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  Speaker 3: if the Jets are interested in trading him. I'm sitting
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  Speaker 3: here watching this ball game going. I was around Mike
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  Speaker 3: Williams with the Chargers his whole career. What Mike Williams
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  Speaker 3: does well is what Russell Ruslson was giving George Pickens
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  Speaker 3: opportunities to do in that game. If you're going to
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  Speaker 3: trade Mike Williams and I'm Omar Khan. I'm calling as
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  Speaker 3: a Pittsburgh Steeler and saying, hey, come on back over here.
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  Speaker 3: Saw you with a nice catch on a fourth down.
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  Speaker 3: But we will utilize you in what you do. We'll
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  Speaker 3: put you opposite of George Pickens. And now we have
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  Speaker 3: you talk about a basketball team with those tight ends.
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  Speaker 3: If you put Mike Williams out there with George Pickens
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  Speaker 3: and with a quarterback who wants to give guys chances
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  Speaker 3: down the field, tell me I'm not crazy here for
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  Speaker 3: thinking that.
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  Speaker 7: You're You're not crazy, and you know what I you know,
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  Speaker 7: and I shame he got injured early in the season.
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  Speaker 7: But Roman Wilson. I felt like, if you get those big,
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  Speaker 7: those big dudes out there and you let Roman work
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  Speaker 7: in the slot, do you know the rookie man that
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  Speaker 7: would be that'd be.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of fun. You know as well. I love
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  Speaker 5: that idea.
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  Speaker 7: I love that idea as long as you're continuing to
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  Speaker 7: feed you know, George Pickens. I feel like the targets
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  Speaker 7: have to stay that.
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  Speaker 5: Way for him to be engaged. And and you know
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  Speaker 5: what he was against the Jets, well.
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  Speaker 4: That's either a great job by the Bill or a
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  Speaker 4: poor job.
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  Speaker 5: Sociece.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't even think we needed to break this
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  Speaker 3: thing down because we already said that this was a
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  Speaker 3: guy who's who's ideal receiver for Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it's great.
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  Speaker 7: I mean like that fits what they want to do, right,
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  Speaker 7: and it gives them, you know, a little bit something
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  Speaker 7: that is a little bit different right than what they've had.
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  Speaker 7: And if look, if Mike Williams is healthy, we know
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  Speaker 7: with what impact he can make, you know, on a game.
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  Speaker 7: Now the question is how quickly can he get up
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  Speaker 7: to speed here? And they can they find him a
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  Speaker 7: you know, a smaller package to get on the field
• 14:38
  Speaker 7: right away and find some of those ways that you
• 14:41
  Speaker 7: know he can he can get open for Russell Wilson
• 14:43
  Speaker 7: and continue to kind of upgrade that offense that has
• 14:46
  Speaker 7: seen an upgrade in the three weeks that Russell's been
• 14:48
  Speaker 7: in there.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Buck. Yeah.
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: No, The thing about the still his offense and what
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: they need is like we talk about the moonshots and
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: the balls and Mike Williams and what he can add
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: to it. But I'd just like the prospect they having
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: two I would say, big body playmakers on the outside.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: You got George Pickens on one side.
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: One of the tight ends. There's four of them on
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: the other.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: The other guys.
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that Pittsburgh is recreating what Russell
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: Wilson had when he was at his best early in
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: his career, but it's eerily similar to what they're trying
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: to do in terms of like size, strike zone, deep ball,
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: all of that other stuff, and being able to run
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: the football and push it down the field. That is
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: when Russell Wilson has always been at his best. And
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: we don't need vintage Russell. We just need efficient and
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: effective Russell's.
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: What the city Rice was was there in Seattle and
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: they were throwing some of those deep play action shots.
• 15:35
  Speaker 7: You know, bigger guys six foot four, six foot five. Yeah,
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: I mean it's kind of what it feels like.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, what did it I think he had? He had
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: some time with BMW Big Mike Williams. Yeah, Big Mike
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Brillhams on the outside. Big Mike Williams going to get
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: it for the Seahaws.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Big Mike coaching high school ball right now. I believe
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: his name after him around a little bit. Look, I
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: I also just think of. People can say whatever they
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: want about Russ, but you just went from the most melancholy,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: moody quarterback to a guy who just smiles and you know,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: gives you slogans all day long. I's going to feel
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: like Mike Williams has died and gone to heaven. From
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: that standpoint, I don't see Russ. I don't see Russ
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: airing him out for not staying on the red line
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: on a B I don't see that happening. Yeah, So
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: good for him, good for Mike Williams, good for the
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. That's a wrap for the lead block presented
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• 16:35
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we will do the rookie draft.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: But again, if any of these trades, any new trades, happen,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: we'll let you know as we go through the rest
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: of the episode. But we'll be right back and go
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: through the rookies right after this. All right, we've got results,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: rookie draft man, let's go right.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Week.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: I tied him this.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: And and cut into a little bit of it, but
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, we've got Rhtt that's up forty to thirty.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Five on me.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Bucky's right on my heels at thirty three. Fuck, we've
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: got to be better than this.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Man. Come on, I gotta be good. I've falling off
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: the wagon.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: I feel like you have you were leading.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: I feel like I'm in this cyclone of losing right
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: like from high school to my college team is not
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: playing great, pro team is not playing WAD. I got
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: to find a way to step away, maybe retreat, maybe
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: I need to do, but I gotta I gotta find
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: a way to just get out of this this losing
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: cycle because it's detrimental to my health.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I don't do well with losing.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Here's the breakdown.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: So Rhett with the performance of Jayden Daniels that did
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: well for him. I had Nick so I got some
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: second place there wide receiver, tight end running backs, I
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: had neighbors, which got me the most points owed by McConkey,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: with Rhett and Marvin Harrison Junior there for Bucky. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: then in the last category, I got another w with
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Bowers and uh Rhett got some second place points with
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Bucky Irving going running back there and uh Keon Coleman
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: finished up for Buck. So, uh, this week the order
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: is myself, Bucky Rhett so Buck. We this is the week.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: We gotta we gotta get going here. Yes, it's gonna happen.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: I'm running away with this thing.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Well five points.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Calm down, we had to halfway.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you've had a good first half.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Calm down, you got.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Well, the first pick is not gonna surprise anybody. I'll
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: go Jaydon Daniels Buck, I think he's been the first
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: pick darn near the whole season.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: You never helped me.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, who are who are?
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Who are guys on by week? This week?
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: You're just Bowers. That's the only one. You gotta worry
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: about ours?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: All right as well? Well, let me go to the quarterback.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: Look, my team is has falling into poor in Chicago
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: after the hill, Mary, I feel like we just.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Lost all the all the juice and momentum. But calem
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: jone bounce back. So this is the week. Let's go
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: kay the waves.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Okay, got it?
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: Well, you load me up with Melik Neighbors, my friends,
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: let's go. I'll take Melik Neighbors right there, and then, uh,
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: why don't we as I was just looking at this
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: once again? Here, Why don't we also take a look at.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know that I like. I don't know that
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: I like Brian Thomas this this week. Give me black
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: McConkey again, give me give me lad neighbors.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Baby.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: All right, Buck, you're back.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mmmmmm. I'm so mad because last week they
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: had a great week. But I might go there.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: Look, I mean, I think I think I gotta stay
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: with it at some point, because at some point it
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: has to turn off for me.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Can I Marma Harrison Julian.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: All right, you can do that. You could do that.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: That's a good thought.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior. Buck, what's the update on Brian Thomas Junior?
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Is he playing?
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: He played? Yeah, he's playing.
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, I can't help did He's just run around
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: and they don't throw the ball to him.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: He's playing out there, he's dress, he's in the uniform.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you wouldn't want to put the
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: ball in the hands of one of your better players.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: But it just hasn't gone anyway sometimes.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: All right, who do the Jags have this week?
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: They got the Vikings stayed away, Yeah, I stayed away
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: from BTJ on that one.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Nope, I'm going to BETJ. All right, I'm going to
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: go BETJ and then I will come back. I get
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: to go back to backers. Got dunsa is coming off
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: of a nice week.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Hey, by the way, you know who's sneaky kind of
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: getting up there?
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Tavian Sanders. Yes, is that where you're gonna go?
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Exactly? Twenty five catches two and fifty two yards.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: They just don't score a lot of points. They don't
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: get touchdowns.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: BTJ, and then oh, you know what, I'm gonna go,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: same team.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Uh who do the
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers have RT?
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: They have the Giants?
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Oh give me, give me liget. I'm gonna go look
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: at today.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Okay, all right, twenty six catches to forty four.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: He's getting in the end zone a little bit. What
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: are we got for touchdowns?
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: For leget think doesn't he let's see, Yeah, he's got
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: four tuddies. Yeah, I'm gonna go. There we go, Buck,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: you're up final. You got your final pick here?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Get BTJ.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: I'll take you TOOJ.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I got BTJ, and.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Okay, I would say you've got wait wait.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait, wait wait wait wait wait?
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Oh we got a little by week you go back
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: to Rome that week?
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Buck was playing, But were you playing
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: the word when I made that pick? Beyond Bucky? How
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: do you know?
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: How do you not go with your namesake here at
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: this point?
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Oh, Bucky Irving's still out there.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I don't mean, like, are we gonna keep you not
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: into it? They're playing San Francisco, so yeah, no, I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I'm going Rome.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: But man, what about you.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Know, Tracy not getting any off here?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm finding here here.
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: Let's go Rome because if Roman Donsey. All right, so
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: you're going with a stack, you're going look at Rome.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Because they've looked because that offense, I mean did play well.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: But KLi, they were a mess against Arizona. Uh right,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: you got which you taking here?
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: I think I'm going Drake May today. Boys.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, those rushing yards. Man, it meets some Drake May.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: I just may go live down by the bay and
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: have some Hey, what do you say? It's Drake May.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: It's it's fourth and thirty.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Gott I got a.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Hearty laugh at a read on that. All right, boys,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: anything else you guys want to jump in here with.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: We have how much longer until the trade deadline? By
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: the way, as we're recording this.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: We got about three hours.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Oh so we still have time, you know, so that
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: you know there's going to be a huge trade that's
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: going to go down once we stop.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: So, yes, always happens.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Is it going to be the Bill is going to
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: send the text and try and get us all back together.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: It's not going to work. Who could it be?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Who would be traded? I don't know, I don't know.
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: But anyway, do you guys see that Jonathan Cooper got
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: a four year, sixty million dollar extension from the Broncos
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: seven and as such they traded Arons Browning, Yeah, to
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: replace a fan of the friend of the program, Dennis Gardak,
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: who unfortunately.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Took yell out there. That was so lit depth piece there.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, I've got one for you.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I was talking to someone at the Michigan game. There's
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of personnel guys there, so talking to someone
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: in the league and we were talking about Mason Graham
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: the defensive tackles. Yeah, Surveyte's finest out here in Southern California,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: great player, uh Buck. The best part about going to
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: live games is you can body type guys and see him.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: So he does not have a good body, you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: it's kind of it's not he's got short arms, he's not,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: you know, super super fit, but he's he's obviously very strong,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: very explosive, good player. And he brought he brought up
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: the question. He was like, I wonder if he'll ever
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: get his arms measured, and and I'm like, you know what,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I have to be careful because look, I've met the combine,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: we're on the we're on the coverage there. We spend
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: so much time talking about it, and it's nice to
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: be able to compare things historically. But we are in
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: a player empowerment era right now, where if I was
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: an agent and he was my client and just being
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: totally truthful and honest with you over my dead body, Yeah,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: measuring his arms, watch my tape. I've got three years
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: of dominant tape. You're not measuring anything.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: The guys doing the measuring are going to be some
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: of the loneliest guys.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I just don't think there.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think that people are I think that we're
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: getting get beyond that and even with forties, you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: we're just seeing it. We've seen it a bunch with
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: some of these guys that and I always go back to,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: you know what Ozzie news To used to say, if
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: you're fast, run you know, like, yeah, yeah, there's no like, hey,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: like I've done enough. Like dude, if you're going to
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: run four threes, if you can fall out of bed
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: and run four threes, just go run it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: You're going to just reinforce how fast you are.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: But if you're a great player who maybe plays pretty fast,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: but you go through your training and you're like, yeah,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I just I'm not a time guy. Heck no, you're
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: not getting a forty out of me. Like, It's just
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: it's a different it's a different era for scouting. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: the thing that struck me was this person, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: who's high up in a personnel department, Buck, the old
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: curmudgeony personnel guys, who would ah, we've done this for
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: the I didn't even think he really cared. It's like, yeah,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: he's right, the tape is good enough.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, do you think the combine
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: will ever get to a point where they're like, hey,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: if you're coming, you're doing this, you're at least doing
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: the measurements. You're at least in order to get admission
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: to the combine and talk to all the coaches and
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: all in have all that you gotta, you gotta at least.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: It's still man, it's still valuable. It's just from a
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: TV TV standpoints, what hurts that's it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it hurts that. But like read even if you say,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: like you're bannoning me from.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: The combine, Okay, cool, but you guys need me.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: It's a tough.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Like I do think like, yeah, like we're going to
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: see fewer of the top guys, maybe work out and
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: do some of the other stuff. But I still believe
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: we'll see enough to maintain interest in broadcasting the combine
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: and seeing some of those.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I don't doubt that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: I'm just you know, I'm just curious if they would
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: ever be you know, some push to like all right, that.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Makes some mandatories. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, red
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: for a nominal.
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: Fee, that's all wrong for a nominal fee. If you're
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: willing to pay me an appearance fee, I'll come in
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: and run forty for you, like if you have to.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: It's coming down down the pipe.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: The other thing is, Bucky and I have been to
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: the Winter meetings for Baseball, and you know that's where
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: basically the whole league gets together. They have meetings, there's
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: some contracts that get announced there and stuff.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: I think there's a way that let's say that like the.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Nuclear option right where just a bunch of these kids
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: are going to say, we're not working out anymore. You
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: could have How much more fun would free agency be
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: if the whole league was together in one location. You know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: we bring in the players, we can get we can
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: get physicals on all the draft guys, whatever you know
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: you need to get there. You can have your interviews
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: with them and meet with players. Maybe you have some
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: guys that still want to work out. But if that
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: was you know, if that was an event where the
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: whole league was there and boom, you just made a trade. Hey,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: let's bring the GM over to the set. You know, hey,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: you guys just made sure you just signed this free agent.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: That'd be a big It would be a convention. That's
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: a great way to put it, would.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Be to make it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: Let's make it a convention. Let's have fun, let's talk
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: about league business. Put all the meetings and all the
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: other stuff there. Let's have some stuff. I'll throw the
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: bowl around a little bit. Let the little.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Drafty and prospects do it.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: But let's talk about real business and have some of
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: this stuff that we can broadcast and make it a
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: lot easier for us to have content.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Sign me up, man.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Sounds kind of fun, right, although I mean I think
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: they would be saying, well, we've got two big events.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: You guys have just shrunk down to one.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, free agent frenzy and all that.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: But I think it would be fun to have everybody
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: there in person.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, let's just let's and then let's continue.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: Let's pump up Big twelve combine Baby, let's get that role,
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: you know, let's pump up the pro days again.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: In speaking of that, how cool would it be if
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: we could have the free agents do like signing day.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Let's put it on out.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, put on the head on. Oh here with choices,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: this is my final four. Oh here's my commitment.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Oh no, yeah, hey, you know what the good news is,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: we're not the commissioner.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: So yeah, we're not going to be We're not.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're living in a did we just do a
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: fantasy draft. Okay, it was fun.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: That's what we just did.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: That was fun. That was fun though. I liked it
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: all right, that's gonna do it for us today again.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Enjoy All the crazy trades are going to happen after
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: we stop recording. I appreciate you guys hanging with us,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: and we'll see you next time. Right here on, Move
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: the sticks.