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Greatest Battle of All Time? · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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Speaker 1: Coming up on this week's episode of hip Hop Now podcast,
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Speaker 1: the twenty to twenty five be Et Award nominations are
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Speaker 1: in and it's exactly what you would think. Andre three
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Speaker 1: thousand drops another non hip hop album and reflecting on
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Speaker 1: the Kendrick versus Drake battle one year later, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: talk about it, but.
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Speaker 1: where I'm getting my stories from. Let's get right to
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Speaker 1: the business though. So recently the nominations for the twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five BT Awards came out. I haven't had a
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Speaker 1: chance to look at them, so if you're not familiar
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Speaker 1: with who was nominated for what category by zai blah,
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Speaker 1: you're finding out when I'm finding out, and that's the
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Speaker 1: fun part. So let's react to that. Shout out to
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Speaker 1: hip Hop dx dot com. This is kind of where
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Speaker 1: I'm getting some of these from. Let's look at the
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Speaker 1: categories and I'll try to stick to the hip hop
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Speaker 1: categories obviously, But Album of the Year, some Sexy Songs
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Speaker 1: for You, Drake, and Party next Door Wow. Album of
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Speaker 1: the Year. I like a couple of tunes on there,
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Speaker 1: but I don't know about that, but hey whatever, Chris Brown,
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Speaker 1: eleven and eleven Deluxe, Doche Alligator Bites, Never Heal, Beyonce, Cowboy, Carter, Glorilla, Glorious,
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Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar, gn X, hurry up tomorrow the weekend. We
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Speaker 1: don't trust you, Future and Metro. My pick for a
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Speaker 1: winner in that category would be and there's no bias,
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Speaker 1: but just would be gn X. That album's on five, okay,
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Speaker 1: like Lutha has been at the top of the charts forever.
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Speaker 1: That album has some legs. Definitely, and you know, obviously
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Speaker 1: it could be Beyonce, you know who knows, but I
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Speaker 1: think it may be GNX. We'll see what other categories
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Speaker 1: here were skipping past the R and B and popp
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Speaker 1: and all of that, here's one that's interesting. Best Group
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Speaker 1: forty one, Common and Pete Rock, Breaking Party next Door, Flow,
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Speaker 1: Future and Metro, Booming, Jah Quiz and daj Loaf, Larry June,
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Speaker 1: two Chains In, Alchemists, Wow, Maverick City Music. Out of those,
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Speaker 1: like best Group, I think Metro and Future may walk
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Speaker 1: away with this. I'd be surprised if it's Draking Party
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Speaker 1: next Door, but I think Future and Metro because remember
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Speaker 1: they put out two albums last year, so beef continues.
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Speaker 1: But we'll talk about that later. Let's see best collaboration.
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Speaker 1: Let's get best female hip hop artists. Now this is
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Speaker 1: crazy because there's a lot of nominations here, but Cardi
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Speaker 1: b Doshi, Dosha, Cat Glowriller, Lotto, Meghan the Stallion, Nicki
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Speaker 1: Minaj's Rhapsody, and Sexy Red. I think this comes down
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Speaker 1: to do and probably Glorilla, to be honest, and I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be mad at it. Well, I won't say I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be mad, right, but if I'm looking at what's here,
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Speaker 1: I think Glorilla would get it because she had a
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Speaker 1: lot of traction. I think though she has a lot
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Speaker 1: of traction also as an artist right now, but Glorilla
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Speaker 1: probably has a little bit more wait in the game.
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Speaker 1: And I just don't know if the BET Awards are
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Speaker 1: gonna do what the Grammys did. They may, you know,
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Speaker 1: but we'll see best Male hip Hop Artists A big
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Speaker 1: Big X, the Plug, boss Man, d Lo burn A
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Speaker 1: boy Burna boys not hip hop. Let's just keep it funky.
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Speaker 1: He's not hip hop. Drake Future Wait, damn, they got
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Speaker 1: Drake up here with hip hoppy. We'll talk about it later.
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Speaker 1: Future Kendrick Lamar. He got Lil Wayne, Lil Wayne. I
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Speaker 1: think my heart work. Let Lil Wayne down, Like, what
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Speaker 1: did he drop? What do he dropped? Singles that y'all
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Speaker 1: didn't pay attention to h and Tyler Theod created. That's
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Speaker 1: a good one. I think best male hip Hop Artist
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Speaker 1: it gotta go to Kendrick because of everything he did
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Speaker 1: last year. But if they chose Tyler the Creator, I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be mad because he put out a very dope
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Speaker 1: project video of the year Real Quick, Key Glock three
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Speaker 1: Am and Tokyo a bar so on Tipsy Shaboozi After
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Speaker 1: Hours Denials the River Dooshe After Hours is Kalani. By
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Speaker 1: the way, Family Madness video Drake Wow feels like BT
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Speaker 1: doing something damage control, not like us. Kendrick Timeless The
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Speaker 1: Weekend featuring Playboy Cardi, tight Ish Future, Metro Boom and
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Speaker 1: Travis Scott Playboy Cardi. I didn't know they had a
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Speaker 1: video for that. Some of these videos I didn't see,
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Speaker 1: so it's hard to say who should win. I think
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Speaker 1: Doc's video was very creative and dope, not like us.
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Speaker 1: It was a very dope video for that song. It
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Speaker 1: just fit and it just brought things up another notch.
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Speaker 1: Family Matters it shouldn't even be here only because remember
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Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about this, but Family Matters
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Speaker 1: dropped with a video and literally like twenty thirty minutes later,
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Speaker 1: Kenjick dropped Meet the Grams and it smothered that song,
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Speaker 1: like it just did. It smothered it. As far as
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Speaker 1: the competition, what people felt about it, people don't even
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Speaker 1: have time to absorb what Drake did with family matters
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Speaker 1: before Hendrick had a rebuttal, so I can't see, like
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Speaker 1: even video wise, like I can see what he was
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Speaker 1: going for, but it was It could have been anything. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: it could have been not a disrecord and it just
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Speaker 1: would have been an okay video. Some of these other
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Speaker 1: videos are like there's some work and some thought like
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Speaker 1: THO She's video, Like there's some real conceptual things going on.
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Speaker 1: Wis you know? Some some videos tend to just be
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Speaker 1: stunting and stuff like that. So let's see it was
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Speaker 1: that it for hip hop, BT movies, actors, actress, young star, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think that was it. So these categories are mostly trash.
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Speaker 1: The BT Awards I don't watch it. And it's not
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Speaker 1: just the BT Awards. I don't watch no awards shows.
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Speaker 1: There are two much a commitment nowadays for there to
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Speaker 1: be one or two great performances, which isn't the worst
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Speaker 1: thing in the world. But if you're talking about three
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Speaker 1: hour broadcast just to see one performance and see people
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Speaker 1: win awards, like you know, having like burn a boy
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Speaker 1: in a category where he's clearly not hip hop. It's
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Speaker 1: just not worse to investing the time, especially when you
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Speaker 1: can do what I'm doing right now, right like, oh,
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Speaker 1: let's see who's nominated boom. When it happens, you go
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Speaker 1: and look to see who won. Right, you don't have
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Speaker 1: to watch the ward show, and then if there was
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Speaker 1: a dupe performance or two, it will be online. It
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Speaker 1: will be clipped for you to check it out, so
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Speaker 1: you don't have to sit through three hours just to
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Speaker 1: watch a great performance. That's just the world we live in.
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Speaker 1: I stop watching ward shows way before you could get
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Speaker 1: those kinds of things like that. I wonder if they're
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Speaker 1: gonna do the BT Cipher, because they don't do the
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Speaker 1: BT Hip Hop awardsm or I don't think so. So
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the Cipher will happen. But who knows
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Speaker 1: who'll be in it, who knows whether it'll be good
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Speaker 1: or not. But there you have it. Those are the
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Speaker 1: nominations for the twenty twenty five BEET Awards. Let me
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Speaker 1: know in the comments. Do you watch do you care
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Speaker 1: about the categories? Is it more interesting because the battle
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Speaker 1: took place and you want to see if certain someone
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Speaker 1: gets more trophies for this and this is Drake. Leave
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Speaker 1: your comments in a comments section below. Next up, Andre
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Speaker 1: three thousand dropped another new album. But unfortunately for you
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Speaker 1: who had your hopes up, it's not what you think.
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Speaker 1: It's not another flute album. It's not an outcast album.
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Speaker 1: It's it's essentially an EP. Seven songs, sixteen minutes in length,
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Speaker 1: title seven piano sketches, right, seven piano sketches And if
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Speaker 1: you don't know, and you could see the image in
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Speaker 1: his video on YouTube, he was dressed that way at
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Speaker 1: the men Gap with a piano strapped to his back.
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming it was hollow because Lord had Mercy take
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Speaker 1: that piano off that man's back before he hurt hisself. Okay,
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Speaker 1: but the project, which is also labeled alternative similar to
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Speaker 1: his flute album, Well, now he has a piano album.
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Speaker 1: There's no bars, there's no singing, it's just piano and
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Speaker 1: the titles are just as crazy as they were when
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Speaker 1: he released the flute album. I'll go over a few
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Speaker 1: for you right, bluffing in the snow. That's the name
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Speaker 1: of it of one track, and then one day you'll
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Speaker 1: Track three is called when you're an in and you
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Speaker 1: wake up in an awesome mood about to drive your
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Speaker 1: son to school, only to discover that you left the
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Speaker 1: lights on in the car last night, so your battery
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Speaker 1: is drained. That is the name of track three. And
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Speaker 1: then there are other shorter names like hotel, lobby, pianos,
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Speaker 1: blueberry mansions, blah blah blah blah blah. Now this is
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Speaker 1: piano solo music, meaning there's no drums, there's no you know,
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Speaker 1: somebody playing a harp. Also, this is just really one
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Speaker 1: hundred three thousand on the piano. Now, as someone who
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Speaker 1: likes jazz and does like some alternative music, I'm not
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Speaker 1: appalled by him dropping something like this. But what I
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Speaker 1: don't like is this is worse than flute album. At
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Speaker 1: least the flute album felt more like experimental, atmospheric and
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Speaker 1: you know what was ambiance or whatever it was. You
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Speaker 1: either take it or you don't. Write, Like, if you
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Speaker 1: want something peaceful playing while you do yoga, the flute
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Speaker 1: album might be able something you could rock with. There
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Speaker 1: are people who are better at flute than him, obviously,
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Speaker 1: but at least there was a case to be made
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Speaker 1: for like the audience that would like it. I can't
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Speaker 1: see anybody like in this joint because it sounds like
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Speaker 1: he's trying to figure out the piano, not that he
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Speaker 1: knows how to play, and he's playing these tunes and
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Speaker 1: you're getting different types of solos and blah blah blah,
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Speaker 1: but more so like he's practicing and he's not at
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Speaker 1: a master's level of practicing. Like I'll give you an
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Speaker 1: example before we talk about the lack of a hip
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Speaker 1: hop album. There was a Prince album that came out
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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, you know, after he pass called Piano
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Speaker 1: in a Microphone nineteen eighty three, and essentially it's Prince
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Speaker 1: kind of practicing tunes, you know, and it's not solo pianos.
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Speaker 1: But when you hear this versus what you're hearing from
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Speaker 1: Three Stacks, you're like, this Prince thing is good enough
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Speaker 1: to be one of the good albums in his catalog
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Speaker 1: and this is him practicing. Now, sure it's unfair to
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Speaker 1: the compared the two, but I think the release of
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Speaker 1: this Andreie Three Stacks album, even as an alternative album
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Speaker 1: or jazz if you want to try to go there.
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Speaker 1: I think it's I don't know. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: his intentions are this, but it feels like you're taking
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Speaker 1: advantage of your popularity where you can do anything and
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Speaker 1: people will like it. Now, I don't I think that's
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Speaker 1: his intention because, like with the Flute album, I listened
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Speaker 1: to an interview he did with MPR, and he's really
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Speaker 1: just about expressing himself and he just wants to share
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Speaker 1: what he's doing. There's nothing wrong with that. There are
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Speaker 1: plenty of people who share stuff that's even way worse
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Speaker 1: than that with the public. But but this is the
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Speaker 1: thing that I think he's a little naive too, a
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Speaker 1: little bit. Sure he's aware, but I feel like the
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Speaker 1: way he's going about is a little bit naive to
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Speaker 1: it now, releasing this album, matching it up with being
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Speaker 1: at the mech Gala, and I guess the piano what
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Speaker 1: you're playing on the PM is kind of inspired by
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Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's a great marketing idea, but an
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Speaker 1: execution it's garbage, okay. And what I was saying about
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Speaker 1: like him kind of knowing what he's doing, they're leveraging
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Speaker 1: his celebrity and where does his celebrity come from? Hip
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Speaker 1: hop and three three thousand and one of the greatest rappers,
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Speaker 1: a part of one of the greatest rap groups of
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Speaker 1: all time in Outcats. You're leveraging that celebrity because regardless
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Speaker 1: if it's not an album for me or someone who
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Speaker 1: wants three stacks on the hip hop side, we're going
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Speaker 1: to pay attention to it because of who you are.
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Speaker 1: That's just it. There are people who put out alternative
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Speaker 1: albums who don't have that base of people who are
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Speaker 1: at least willing to look at it, press play whatever
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Speaker 1: because of who you are, the name you created for yourself.
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Speaker 1: So am I mad at him releasing this? Not really,
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Speaker 1: he can release another one playing the drums. I don't care.
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Speaker 1: I feel like artists should be able and be allowed
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Speaker 1: to express themselves in whatever way they choose to. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean we have to like it, right, doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: you have to automatically like it because you like Outcasts,
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Speaker 1: because this is nothing like Outcasts at all. It's nothing
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Speaker 1: like Outcasts at all. But I hope he's kind of
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Speaker 1: what's the term in wrestling, It's a work, right, That's
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Speaker 1: what it's called work? When we're gonna make you believe
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Speaker 1: in his case that this is where he is. He's
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Speaker 1: playing instruments, he's releasing alternative albums, and that's where he
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Speaker 1: is in his career, and he doesn't feel the need
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Speaker 1: to rap because he doesn't necessarily know what he would
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Speaker 1: be saying of significance at his age, which I don't
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Speaker 1: believe him. I believe that we will at least get
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Speaker 1: one more project from Outcasts, not a solo Andree album,
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Speaker 1: one more album at least from Olcas Cast. Maybe it's
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Speaker 1: a full on album. Maybe it's a big boy album.
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Speaker 1: And you know, Andre is featured on a number of songs,
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Speaker 1: but not enough I guess to call it an Outcast album.
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Speaker 1: But I feel like there's still hip hop that he
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Speaker 1: may be like hiding from us and distracting us with
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Speaker 1: pianos and boots and stuff, you know, which is crazy.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like, you know, like you're playing Zelda some
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Speaker 1: crazy you know, RBG or whatever on a PlayStation, so
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Speaker 1: on Nintendo. I know, I know Zelda's Nintendo. So I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you are an Andre three thousand fan
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Speaker 1: and you liked the Flute album because he was trying
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Speaker 1: something different check out this piano joint. I gotta tell you.
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Speaker 1: For me, I didn't even I couldn't even get through it, fam,
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Speaker 1: I can't. I was just like, this is just not
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Speaker 1: good piano playing period, Like what is this? Is it
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Speaker 1: something for somebody to buy or or stream? Like, well,
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Speaker 1: maybe streaming is fine, but this should not be for
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Speaker 1: purchase at all, because it's not good all right. And lastly,
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Speaker 1: so recently we hit the one year mark for Drake
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Speaker 1: versus Kendrick, Kendrick versus Drake, whatever way you want to
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Speaker 1: go with it, and obviously everybody's going over the different songs.
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Speaker 1: You know, hey, it is the first anniversary of push Ups,
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Speaker 1: is the first anniversary of Euphoria's first aniverse, like all
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Speaker 1: the songs, right except for Taylor Ma right, because we
20:47
Speaker 1: know that AI garbage got pulled, and you know, it
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Speaker 1: was like it was stupid tailor me was just not
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Speaker 1: the greatest idea, especially for someone who was against people
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Speaker 1: using AI and his voice, you know, go ahead, you know,
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Speaker 1: talking about dre him going ahead and using Tupac's voice
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Speaker 1: and Snoop's voice and without permission. It was just a misstep.
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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, a lot of people talked about this battle
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Speaker 1: year later, some people even said stuff who really won?
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Speaker 1: Like do you really have to ask that question? Like
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Speaker 1: this kind of thing. I don't like, Like, don't put
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Speaker 1: it in the air that it was up for questions
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Speaker 1: because we know who won, because they's still winning. And
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Speaker 1: one of those guys, loser has a lawsuit because of
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Speaker 1: the Battle Right, and he contradicts himself within the lawsuit.
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Speaker 1: So just reflecting on that whole time in hip hop,
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Speaker 1: I thought it was amazing because it was a hip
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Speaker 1: pop battle on a whole nother level as far as
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Speaker 1: where it went right, only talking about more recent battles
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Speaker 1: and Drake battles we got, we got tip r hat
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Speaker 1: to Drake. He doesn't He never had to battle any
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Speaker 1: of these guys. Push your Tea, meet Mill Kendrick. He
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Speaker 1: never liked. I'm more popular than y'all, I'm getting more money.
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to do that and ignore you. Trust me,
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Speaker 1: The ignoring part is way more effective than engaging, because,
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Speaker 1: like Drake found out, you risk not only losing, but
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Speaker 1: having it impact your success, which it has. Don't believe
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Speaker 1: in one second that Drake is the same post Battle Right.
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Speaker 1: He's not completely off the planet Earth. Obviously dropped an
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Speaker 1: album and the Nokia singles doing well, and there's certain
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Speaker 1: songs that people like, there's certain songs I like off
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Speaker 1: of it. But every time he opened his mouth in
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Speaker 1: one of these records, you can't help but to think
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Speaker 1: about this battle. Now, the battle for those who don't
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Speaker 1: know or don't have a lot of knowledge about how
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Speaker 1: it went down. And you know, how'd you come to
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Speaker 1: the conclusion that Drake lost the battle. We did a
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Speaker 1: whole video of that recapping it. That'll be at the
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Speaker 1: end of the video that just recaps what happened. And
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Speaker 1: this we did recorded that video after not like us dropped.
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Speaker 1: I know you know that, okay, But a year later,
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Speaker 1: is it the greatest hip hop battle of all time?
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Speaker 1: I think it might be. And when I say that,
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Drake and Kendrick are better rappers than
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Speaker 1: aras One or Nas jay Z or Ice Cube in
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Speaker 1: his moment and obviously what I'm saying, and you have
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Speaker 1: to look at those battles in the context of that time. Right.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it was just a quick back and forth you
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Speaker 1: picked the winner, that was it, right, and typically a
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Speaker 1: song decided when the battle was over. So, for example,
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Speaker 1: kr us one and mc shan. There were South Bronx,
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Speaker 1: there was Kill That Noise by Shann, there was South
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Speaker 1: Bronx by BDP, Kill That Noise by Shan, and then
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Speaker 1: there was the Bridges Over. And when the Bridges Over dropped,
24:36
Speaker 1: that was the end of the battle, right, ice Cube
24:40
Speaker 1: and NWA. There were a couple of songs and skits
24:43
Speaker 1: and Ben and Degarano and all of that, and then
24:45
Speaker 1: Ice Cube dropped no Vassiline off the Death Certificate album.
24:49
Speaker 1: The battle was over. After that, NWA never made another album. Okay,
24:56
Speaker 1: this context, jay Z and os right a lot of
25:01
Speaker 1: back and forth. Right first, it was kind of like freestyles.
25:04
Speaker 1: Jay Z on the Summer's Jam stage acts Nazi the
25:07
Speaker 1: one that would hold right. That was debate. Then Nas
25:10
Speaker 1: does the stealmatic freestyle right, and then jay Z says, oh,
25:15
Speaker 1: he responded, okay, now on the Blueprint album, let me
25:20
Speaker 1: drop the full version of my song disting not only
25:25
Speaker 1: mob Deep but also Nas and not saying names but
25:31
Speaker 1: kind of hinting at the locks and all that in
25:33
Speaker 1: the last verse. And it felt like it was over
25:38
Speaker 1: for Nas to be honest when we heard the takeover.
25:41
Speaker 1: But then Etha dropped and Etha felt like the end,
25:46
Speaker 1: and it really became the end when jay Z tried
25:48
Speaker 1: to respond too quickly and emotionally and people said that
25:54
Speaker 1: song's whack nas is better. Battle over right, j He
26:00
Speaker 1: didn't fall off as a result. You can even go
26:02
Speaker 1: to fifty cent and jar Rule right. Regardless of what
26:07
Speaker 1: you want to say. Jar Roul was hot, he was
26:10
Speaker 1: on the radio. He was hot. You may not, like
26:12
Speaker 1: some people may not have liked those records, but you
26:14
Speaker 1: can't deny that level of success he was at before
26:17
Speaker 1: fifty cent started dissinging, and then fifty cent blew up
26:21
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, jar Ru was like, everybody
26:25
Speaker 1: just looked at jar Ru like he's always been whack,
26:28
Speaker 1: and that kind of ended that battle. Also, you know
26:32
Speaker 1: when you're hearing back down and skits and mixtape joints
26:35
Speaker 1: like fifty just piled on and on and on the
26:39
Speaker 1: same thing with Drake when he just meet mil Right,
26:44
Speaker 1: meet Mill said some things. Drake dropped one song. We
26:47
Speaker 1: don't even remember what that first dis record was, but
26:50
Speaker 1: it was because we were waiting for Meek mill response
26:54
Speaker 1: to drop. Drake dropped another track called back to Back
26:58
Speaker 1: and that kind of ended it and Meek responded and
27:01
Speaker 1: their response was dope, but it was way too late. Right,
27:06
Speaker 1: So there are moments where you know the battle is over,
27:11
Speaker 1: you know who won, and it's just it's universal. At
27:16
Speaker 1: that point in time, Shortness and Drake fans that were
27:19
Speaker 1: kind of like, naw, he got one more. But even
27:22
Speaker 1: in his one more, he conceded because when not like
27:27
Speaker 1: Us dropped, it felt like, oh, the battle's over. He
27:33
Speaker 1: not only did Kendrick drop a song that was in
27:39
Speaker 1: the new style like Euphoria right beatswitch, the sound of
27:44
Speaker 1: the tracks, the flows he had, but then he turns
27:48
Speaker 1: around and drops six' sixteen To, la which is just
27:51
Speaker 1: straight you, know barrock boom back. Right Then drake drops
27:58
Speaker 1: family matters AS i got of y'all eight ball corner pocket.
28:02
Speaker 1: Pocket thirty minutes, Later kendrick is Dropping meet The, grams
28:09
Speaker 1: which again stends to, beat breaking him down alchemists on the,
28:13
Speaker 1: beat and it felt. Over it felt over with, that, like,
28:19
Speaker 1: YO i think it's over Unless drake got another. One
28:23
Speaker 1: this battles, over this dude rapping about his, family and
28:27
Speaker 1: then before we can catch our breaths, again that saying
28:32
Speaker 1: the next, day he drops not Like, us and it was, like,
28:38
Speaker 1: oh it's it's. Over so When drake finally dropped which
28:43
Speaker 1: was the response to Not Like, us the heart part,
28:46
Speaker 1: six especially with the way he was talking at the
28:50
Speaker 1: end as if he was just waving a white flag
28:54
Speaker 1: and he ain't really want to do this and he
28:55
Speaker 1: knew like it just he sound. Defeated but it didn't.
29:01
Speaker 1: Matter he didn't have to drop that last record because
29:05
Speaker 1: it was already. Over now why do we say was?
29:09
Speaker 1: Over not just because of WHAT i mentioned about there
29:13
Speaker 1: being moments when you know the battle is over based
29:16
Speaker 1: off the, song but also this, battle which is WHY
29:21
Speaker 1: i say it probably will go down as the greatest
29:24
Speaker 1: battle in hip hop. History it's because it was so
29:29
Speaker 1: much more than the. Songs it was the timing of the.
29:32
Speaker 1: Songs it was the, rumors it was the receipts you
29:35
Speaker 1: could find on the internet About, Drake it was the. Rebuttals,
29:42
Speaker 1: right it probably was the receipts more than the, rebuttals
29:45
Speaker 1: because then it starts to reveal a. Lot right then
29:50
Speaker 1: it's Super bowl, performance right From kendrick just announcing that
29:57
Speaker 1: he's doing The Super bowl and then is he gonna
30:00
Speaker 1: Performed Not Like? Us and he DID i feel like
30:03
Speaker 1: he look at the camera until he, said, Say, DRAKE
30:06
Speaker 1: i hear like him, young which is crazy at the Super.
30:08
Speaker 1: BOWL i hear you like him young at the Super bowl.
30:12
Speaker 1: Crazy but before that he wins all These grammys for the,
30:17
Speaker 1: record and before that he dropped the brand new album
30:23
Speaker 1: in GN x that now has a. Tour so it's just,
30:28
Speaker 1: like it wasn't just the fact that he dropped these
30:33
Speaker 1: disc records that will you, know show different looks and
30:37
Speaker 1: really Broke drake down to the smallest compound bars it.
30:44
Speaker 1: Was it was also all these residual effects of, it
30:49
Speaker 1: and not all coming From. Kendrick some of it Was
30:53
Speaker 1: drake trying to pretend what happened didn't happen right like.
31:00
Speaker 1: Now GRANTED i don't give him no slack for trying
31:03
Speaker 1: to drop, music but he wouldn't stop talking about the,
31:06
Speaker 1: battle AND i felt like it was way too soon
31:11
Speaker 1: for you to, pretend, like, oh round two coming. Up
31:15
Speaker 1: but Then kendrick's robutto is a Super bowl commercial saying
31:19
Speaker 1: no round twos see me at the Super, bowl so
31:23
Speaker 1: you look Like i'm ready to Fight NOW i woke
31:27
Speaker 1: up from getting knocked. Out now what it just made
31:32
Speaker 1: him look, worse you, know taking that picture with his
31:36
Speaker 1: lips or tooted out crazy with the rest of the
31:40
Speaker 1: ov holes in the, background doing the video in the,
31:43
Speaker 1: mall in the mall with the. Kids, DANG i hear
31:46
Speaker 1: Like i'm, Young like just wrong. Moves then he dropped you,
31:50
Speaker 1: Know wandre gigs for your, headtop which was to me
31:54
Speaker 1: was a good, move but it didn't do much for, him.
31:57
Speaker 1: Right BUT i think what really sealed it more than
32:01
Speaker 1: any of the things That kendrick has done and received
32:05
Speaker 1: as a result of winning this, battle Is drake trying
32:09
Speaker 1: to sue his record company for promoting the, song for
32:14
Speaker 1: boosting the, song for defamation within the, song and just
32:20
Speaker 1: so you, know we don't do that in hip. Hop,
32:24
Speaker 1: Like drake ain't the only one who's been dissed and
32:29
Speaker 1: something was said about them that might not be. True
32:31
Speaker 1: that is part of, battling and more, importantly that's what
32:35
Speaker 1: he was. Doing, first he was Accusing kendrick of being
32:40
Speaker 1: a woman. Beater he was saying that his son is
32:45
Speaker 1: not his son and it belongs to his best. Friend
32:48
Speaker 1: so he's talking about his, wife he's talking about his,
32:50
Speaker 1: friends he's talking about his. Kids that is defamation, also
32:54
Speaker 1: But kendrick doesn't have a lawsuit about. It and then hip,
32:58
Speaker 1: hop LIKE i, said you can't have you can't have
33:03
Speaker 1: no lawsuit over no dis. Records that's the most unhip
33:07
Speaker 1: hop thing you can. Do from a guy who is.
33:10
Speaker 1: Quoted drake quoted ON i Think Lebron's james podcast joint
33:16
Speaker 1: in the barber. SHOP i don't know what's CAR i
33:17
Speaker 1: don't watch. It. Okay when he SAID i studied battle
33:22
Speaker 1: rap for a, living he said that how you studying
33:25
Speaker 1: then you have a. Lawsuit you're? Lying. Okay so you
33:29
Speaker 1: got all these names that he's been given which fit
33:32
Speaker 1: because it's what he's, doing Like liwbrary right for those
33:38
Speaker 1: who don't, know his name Is, aubrey But internet is
33:41
Speaker 1: calling Them liwbrary or probably the one that really fits
33:48
Speaker 1: the most hip Hop karen Yep. SO i said all
33:53
Speaker 1: that to, say greatest hip hop battle of all. Time
33:59
Speaker 1: give me another year or two where we forget about
34:02
Speaker 1: all of this and there's no tour and it like
34:05
Speaker 1: it's not a live in the social space, anymore and
34:12
Speaker 1: it's definitely, close it's definitely it's probably at the, top
34:18
Speaker 1: and a lot of that has to do with the technology,
34:23
Speaker 1: today how fast we were able to get. Access just know,
34:27
Speaker 1: This you didn't hear all the songs for rap battles
34:30
Speaker 1: so quick once upon a, time you just. Didn't somebody
34:34
Speaker 1: told you about it and they may be heard it
34:38
Speaker 1: on the, radio so you had to wait to see
34:40
Speaker 1: if it was going to be played again or if
34:43
Speaker 1: you you, know if you in the early internet days
34:46
Speaker 1: with like JAY z and, nas you go to one
34:48
Speaker 1: of them sites were able to find. It but this
34:52
Speaker 1: was like live and direct to the public via music
34:56
Speaker 1: streaming apps and YouTube and you know commentary from you,
35:01
Speaker 1: know you could see What drake was thinking in real
35:03
Speaker 1: time because it kept posting about. Stuff you could follow
35:07
Speaker 1: your favorite hip hop media people and just watch their
35:11
Speaker 1: videos like. Mine it was just, different so it felt.
35:16
Speaker 1: Bigger and when it hits The grammy stage and the
35:23
Speaker 1: Super bowl, stage if it's not the greatest, battle it
35:29
Speaker 1: is the biggest battle of all time when it comes
35:33
Speaker 1: to hip. Hop so leave your comments in a comment section.
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Speaker 1: Below what do you think about The kendrick Versus drake
35:40
Speaker 1: battle one year? Later are you do you feel like
35:45
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