Latest / The Breakfast Club / Mac Miller Interview
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Real Key for real Celebrity Real joined the Breakfast Morning.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlomane the guy. We
- 0:10Speaker 1: are the breakfast class. We got a friend to the room.
- 0:14Speaker 1: I don't know this guy no more. We haven't seen
- 0:16Speaker 1: him in the hell. Where the hell is this guy been?
- 0:18Speaker 1: My favorite white guy, mister Macmiller, Ladies, yell Miller, it's
- 0:22Speaker 1: my mic on. Yes, yeah, here sir. Yeah, he's having
- 0:29Speaker 1: a drink right now that I'm talking about drugs. Oh yeah, no,
- 0:33Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I mean yeah, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no.
- 0:38Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm really good. He look good. You know,
- 0:42Speaker 1: you look healthy. You don't look drugged out. I'm not
- 0:44Speaker 1: drugged up. Because that's what we was hearing that mcmillier
- 0:47Speaker 1: has disappeared, because because because he was doing a lot
- 0:49Speaker 1: of drug I even texted you one day, I say,
- 0:51Speaker 1: what's up, man, you good? I'm hearing things. Yeah, you know,
- 0:54Speaker 1: I had a little battle. You mean, I did you know,
- 0:56Speaker 1: did some time? What was the drug of choice? I'm
- 1:00Speaker 1: making backsliding, No, there was, it was a lot of things.
- 1:10Speaker 1: You know. I was having you know, um having a
- 1:12Speaker 1: good time, I guess, but uh, enjoying the fruit to
- 1:15Speaker 1: your label. Yeah, but you know it's it was time
- 1:17Speaker 1: to clean my act up, get back to work. Um,
- 1:20Speaker 1: you know, just just accept my responsibilities and and and
- 1:24Speaker 1: who who I am and what I gotta do now.
- 1:26Speaker 1: The truth that you signed a ten million dollars deal
- 1:28Speaker 1: with Leo Cohen. No, not were going but yes and
- 1:32Speaker 1: ten million. No, it was no, it's you know how
- 1:39Speaker 1: the game. Yes, it's something over, it's something around there.
- 1:42Speaker 1: I got a I got a nice little chunk of change.
- 1:45Speaker 1: I would have went away and did a bunch of
- 1:46Speaker 1: drugs too. You mean you gotta earn that money though.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Still I'm sure they were concerned. Oh yeah, but but
- 1:54Speaker 1: they were. But you know what they they kind of
- 1:57Speaker 1: came in a situation and we're very like, let me
- 2:00Speaker 1: take a sip of my drink out there, that remmy baby,
- 2:02Speaker 1: get that remy and you uh. They were like just
- 2:07Speaker 1: like you know, giving me time, like you know, um,
- 2:11Speaker 1: but it was cool. It wasn't. It wasn't a thing
- 2:13Speaker 1: like we need to we need to get him on
- 2:15Speaker 1: the right track right now, get him to rehab. It
- 2:17Speaker 1: was like it was like, you know, I had a
- 2:18Speaker 1: lot of people around me who care about me and
- 2:20Speaker 1: I was good, Arte, no, no, I ain't gonna rehab.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Charlotte made texting me, you know a lot, and he
- 2:26Speaker 1: was like, yo, how are you doing? And I was
- 2:28Speaker 1: like I'm good. And we would talk a lot, just
- 2:30Speaker 1: like on some French and then he started getting romantic
- 2:33Speaker 1: with I was like, you need to chill, you know,
- 2:38Speaker 1: just like just like hey babe, um bad. I'm like yo.
- 2:43Speaker 1: And what I said was I was like, wrong number
- 2:44Speaker 1: and he's like, no, it's not right, is it still? Mac?
- 2:52Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. He did tell me that you
- 2:54Speaker 1: did that once and he asked me what was out
- 2:55Speaker 1: with you? He did, I must have been drunk and
- 2:58Speaker 1: it must that didn't have nothing. But but I had to, uh,
- 3:07Speaker 1: you know, I had to just get my together and
- 3:09Speaker 1: go back to work. You know, I just was, I
- 3:11Speaker 1: just you know, I was. I was being dumb and
- 3:14Speaker 1: you were pretty young and you had a great wild
- 3:17Speaker 1: time your friends around you and everything. Sometimes you got
- 3:19Speaker 1: to refocus, exactly, And I think I think for me
- 3:22Speaker 1: it was a thing where like I just didn't feel
- 3:24Speaker 1: like I thought it was my right, which it is,
- 3:27Speaker 1: but I thought it was like my right as a
- 3:29Speaker 1: human to say I didn't want to do anything. So
- 3:32Speaker 1: like I was like, I don't feel like toyn I
- 3:33Speaker 1: don't feel like an album out. Was it that later?
- 3:36Speaker 1: Was it? Was it the la life? Well, there's a
- 3:38Speaker 1: lot of space out there, so you know, I could
- 3:42Speaker 1: I had, I could disappear, and I was just kind
- 3:46Speaker 1: of just making a lot of music and I just
- 3:48Speaker 1: kind of got comfortable in this zone of like, I'm
- 3:52Speaker 1: not gonna like, I don't need to bring any money in.
- 3:56Speaker 1: I got money, You had money, so you just wanted
- 3:58Speaker 1: to record, right, just record and just have fun with it.
- 4:01Speaker 1: And then I realized that that I didn't put anything out,
- 4:03Speaker 1: and like and then I ran out of money, you
- 4:07Speaker 1: know what I mean, Scott storched myself and then, uh, hell,
- 4:11Speaker 1: how to go bro? I'm Jewish? Come on, you know
- 4:15Speaker 1: I got my money talks, I'm good, I got investments.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Um no. But so I just decided it was time
- 4:21Speaker 1: to come back. Did anything inspire you? Was it like
- 4:23Speaker 1: a day that you were listening to something and you
- 4:26Speaker 1: were like, you know what, I gotta get back in there.
- 4:27Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, I think, uh. At first,
- 4:31Speaker 1: when I signed to a major, it was a little
- 4:32Speaker 1: scary for me because I was like, oh, you know,
- 4:35Speaker 1: like what if all my freedom's gone? Because he were
- 4:38Speaker 1: kind of against that world? Would you do that? I mistake?
- 4:40Speaker 1: You said, like you that's what you're kind of claim
- 4:42Speaker 1: to fame. But that independent audi and see that I
- 4:44Speaker 1: was one of this, you know, because it was it's
- 4:46Speaker 1: it's it's that time and and just like I can
- 4:49Speaker 1: do more from this position, not just for me, but
- 4:51Speaker 1: for those around me, and I can create, um, like
- 4:54Speaker 1: a real franchise and uh um yeah I'm me. I
- 5:00Speaker 1: was like, you know, it was a little scary. You
- 5:02Speaker 1: see that that contract is so thick, bro, but I'm
- 5:05Speaker 1: sure it with ten million reasons why. But you know,
- 5:08Speaker 1: I don't do it for the money. I do it
- 5:10Speaker 1: for the art. How much did Rostrom get? Did you
- 5:15Speaker 1: have to give them anything? No, it wasn't like that. No,
- 5:18Speaker 1: they've got a lot of money from the work we
- 5:20Speaker 1: did together. And then you've announced that you're going on
- 5:23Speaker 1: tour and you're doing smaller and more intimate venues. Yeah
- 5:26Speaker 1: before so there's like a album release, um shows um,
- 5:31Speaker 1: and then the real tour gets announced the day before
- 5:34Speaker 1: the album comes out. But um, yeah, which I love
- 5:38Speaker 1: Like that was the other thing is I like hadn't
- 5:40Speaker 1: done shows. I got back to doing shows. I was like,
- 5:42Speaker 1: oh wow, like I'm still selling our venues. Yeah, and
- 5:47Speaker 1: you look terrible that now that was I was horrible.
- 5:49Speaker 1: What was you do? You know what's so bad about that?
- 5:52Speaker 1: I'm the guy that'd be like, no Mac Milliken rap, right,
- 5:55Speaker 1: I know? And I I mean jail with jay Z's
- 6:01Speaker 1: there too. Oh bro, you know dog? I was so
- 6:05Speaker 1: hot because well, this thing is like, you know, you
- 6:09Speaker 1: you don't uh that song. It's not like that's a
- 6:13Speaker 1: one that I always perform, you know what I mean.
- 6:15Speaker 1: So I was going over my verse, like I gotta
- 6:18Speaker 1: remember verse because I've had an issue with that in
- 6:21Speaker 1: the past, and especially when you're on a lot of drugs,
- 6:23Speaker 1: you always forget stuff. So like, you know, you're you know,
- 6:26Speaker 1: I was kind of a mess. Um. So I get
- 6:29Speaker 1: there and you know, I'm like, okay, I think I'm ready,
- 6:33Speaker 1: and uh, I'm super geeks. Everyone's being super cool. Um,
- 6:37Speaker 1: and I come out on stage and I just completely
- 6:40Speaker 1: blow it. I got four bars out and for the
- 6:43Speaker 1: first four bars I thought I was killing. I was like,
- 6:46Speaker 1: I was like whoa. And then also I was like
- 6:49Speaker 1: and so me and him started freestyling and then I
- 6:51Speaker 1: just kind of messed up dipped and like I do
- 6:55Speaker 1: this thing when I mess up my lyrics, I kind
- 6:57Speaker 1: of like just run away like a little kid. Like
- 7:01Speaker 1: I was like diad. I was like, weird right on stage.
- 7:03Speaker 1: No no, no, no, like like I'm a man, I'll
- 7:05Speaker 1: take it my whole thing, and like I'll stand on stage.
- 7:08Speaker 1: I had a show one time where I forgot every
- 7:09Speaker 1: single lyric besides the hook for the whole show. You
- 7:15Speaker 1: just stood on the stage and turned up with people,
- 7:16Speaker 1: where like most people would have just walked off the stage.
- 7:18Speaker 1: I just kicked it. Yeah, but like, but that's Jay
- 7:24Speaker 1: Electronic and said that on the stage. He was like,
- 7:26Speaker 1: you know, he smoked a lot. I was like, yeah,
- 7:29Speaker 1: people hitting my phone like this the dude you'd be
- 7:30Speaker 1: talking about can wrap you. And then after him after
- 7:35Speaker 1: he goes So was that bad? Yeah, it was bad.
- 7:37Speaker 1: It was super bad. I was like, um, but I
- 7:40Speaker 1: remember I talked to I remember, like I was going
- 7:41Speaker 1: off stage and I Uh Electronic and I was like, yo,
- 7:47Speaker 1: it's like because I take this shit really serious. Like
- 7:50Speaker 1: I don't like to cup. It's not like I've just
- 7:51Speaker 1: been joking around. But I was like, Yo, I blew it.
- 7:56Speaker 1: I messed up man. He said yes, he said no, no,
- 7:58Speaker 1: he said he said there's no ups in hip hop. Bro.
- 8:02Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he no, hard, but not for
- 8:06Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was cool, but
- 8:08Speaker 1: I definitely blew a dope opportunity. Jay was definitely backstage. Definitely.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Jay was definitely like, he didn't invite you to the
- 8:15Speaker 1: title meeting after that. Nah. Nah, I've I've I've never
- 8:22Speaker 1: spoken to him. I've I've known. I know that he's
- 8:25Speaker 1: heard some stuff and liked it. I've known that. Uh,
- 8:28Speaker 1: I'm gonna just start making you know what I'm saying.
- 8:30Speaker 1: I know he bumpd my album on the regular. Nah,
- 8:34Speaker 1: but uh no, I never I never got dropped up
- 8:37Speaker 1: with him. It's kind of good you felt back the
- 8:39Speaker 1: last couple of years because it was kind of hard
- 8:40Speaker 1: on white rappers in hip hop. Dude, that was it
- 8:43Speaker 1: was not it was not not type for white nig
- 8:47Speaker 1: got it bad. Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's
- 8:50Speaker 1: a it's a touchy subject, especially with everything else going
- 8:52Speaker 1: on in the world. I mean, it's like, who looks
- 8:55Speaker 1: like white rappers don't look like the tightest people when
- 8:58Speaker 1: there's all these horrible things going on the world. You
- 9:00Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it doesn't look tight. Um, And
- 9:02Speaker 1: I wasn't like a planned thing. It definitely wasn't like
- 9:06Speaker 1: a like I need to get back man, like that
- 9:08Speaker 1: definitely wasn't you know. That was like, do you ever
- 9:10Speaker 1: feel the need to speak out on social issues because
- 9:12Speaker 1: you are part of hip hop? Right, and people feel like, oh,
- 9:14Speaker 1: if you know you're part of hip hoop, you should
- 9:15Speaker 1: speak out on what's going on with black people. Um oh,
- 9:18Speaker 1: I mean definitely with certain things. I mean, I think
- 9:20Speaker 1: there's a time when I'm when I'm younger nineteen eighteen,
- 9:23Speaker 1: nineteen twenty twenty one, right, But I'm saying this is like,
- 9:27Speaker 1: up until now, I didn't really speak on race. I
- 9:29Speaker 1: didn't really speak on these issues just because my whole
- 9:33Speaker 1: idea was like, uh, I'm probably just scared of it, really,
- 9:37Speaker 1: but my whole idea was like, you know, I just
- 9:39Speaker 1: want to make music. I just want to make music.
- 9:41Speaker 1: And now I kind of like, like it did like
- 9:43Speaker 1: a bunch of interviews on like white rappers and hip
- 9:45Speaker 1: hop and stuff like that. It's like you can't be
- 9:48Speaker 1: uncomfortable to talk about it. You can't be uncomfortable with
- 9:50Speaker 1: you white exactly exactly your experience in every interview. Yeah,
- 9:56Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, you know, I'll be annoying DC. Oh,
- 9:58Speaker 1: you're my favorite white guy. But I mean I think,
- 10:01Speaker 1: you know, but that's fine, and I think I think
- 10:04Speaker 1: my favorite black guy. I don't know, you're definitely not
- 10:06Speaker 1: definitely not you, like my third favorite light skame b
- 10:10Speaker 1: and as the longest light skinned people I know, so
- 10:12Speaker 1: that you but no, it's like uh um yeah. I
- 10:17Speaker 1: think at the time, as as someone in the in
- 10:20Speaker 1: the public and being young and like being a white
- 10:23Speaker 1: rapper is uh, that always comes with it. You're like,
- 10:27Speaker 1: I just want to be a rapper man, but like
- 10:29Speaker 1: in reality, it's like whatever, I don't want to just
- 10:34Speaker 1: be considered a female rapper, right. Is that one of
- 10:36Speaker 1: the reasons you signed to a major because it was
- 10:38Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, Mcamore, NIGGI blew up with
- 10:41Speaker 1: radio records and I remember talking to you once and
- 10:43Speaker 1: you was like you wanted to get radio records now,
- 10:45Speaker 1: and I was like why, Yeah, I know, I mean
- 10:48Speaker 1: that wasn't uh, that didn't happen. I mean, that wasn't
- 10:53Speaker 1: like a reason for I think I just wanted to see,
- 10:55Speaker 1: like I never had a real budget to do anything,
- 10:58Speaker 1: you know, like I've never you were investing yourself basically
- 11:00Speaker 1: right now. I mean like like you know, like Rosham
- 11:02Speaker 1: definitely had put money down and and you used to
- 11:05Speaker 1: be the thing where if like if Rosham didn't want
- 11:07Speaker 1: to pay for it, I paid for it, like I
- 11:08Speaker 1: didn't care and like, um, but like just really because
- 11:13Speaker 1: they're an independent company, so I didn't really have a
- 11:16Speaker 1: big budget to work with sopendent. Yeah, but I mean,
- 11:21Speaker 1: you know, hey, you're just not as I'm not, you know,
- 11:25Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying. There's there's no there's
- 11:27Speaker 1: tears of rappers, and it's like Maclamore Macmiller. Everyone knows it.
- 11:31Speaker 1: I'm trash. He's nice, like you know what I mean,
- 11:33Speaker 1: Like I don't know how to me know me, you know,
- 11:36Speaker 1: it's for real, I don't know how to I don't
- 11:38Speaker 1: have the metaphors that he has. Everyone knows true. You know,
- 11:41Speaker 1: his name was supposed to be Macalmiller. Yeah, like you
- 11:44Speaker 1: know what, No, I didn't hear that. Yeah, he actually
- 11:46Speaker 1: and and and I told I told him, I was like, yo, bro,
- 11:49Speaker 1: like you got my name and he just slapped it
- 11:52Speaker 1: out of me. And I was like, my father, bro,
- 11:54Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I like you know, so
- 11:56Speaker 1: I don't really be saying anything bad about him. Sorry, bro.
- 12:00Speaker 1: So he was going to expose you too. He was like, Yo,
- 12:01Speaker 1: he got this ghost riding and Quentnin Miller do that. No, No, Miller.
- 12:06Speaker 1: I know Charlotte Maine be writing most of my hooks.
- 12:08Speaker 1: And then Angela really be writing the bark. I knew it,
- 12:10Speaker 1: and you knew it. I knew it. I knew That's
- 12:12Speaker 1: that's why I like sometimes people like that sounds kind
- 12:14Speaker 1: of like kind of like he likes dude, Well, I
- 12:18Speaker 1: actually wrote one hundred grandkids, right, you wrote that it's
- 12:22Speaker 1: time for mcmullletta settled down and have some kids. It's
- 12:25Speaker 1: not the grandkids. I mean you got a lot of children. Yeah,
- 12:28Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's dren some grandchildren. She's ready, right,
- 12:35Speaker 1: she needs you to get started and should be your
- 12:37Speaker 1: seeds all over right, you know, playing that record un grandkids, um,
- 12:41Speaker 1: who were like the first half of the record um
- 12:45Speaker 1: is about having grandchildren and and it's really not like
- 12:50Speaker 1: the heavy message behind the record. It's just kind of
- 12:53Speaker 1: a little like stupid double on terms or where the
- 12:55Speaker 1: first half is about grandchildren and then the second half
- 12:59Speaker 1: is about first time I got one hundred grand It's
- 13:02Speaker 1: like not that tight. I mean I think that crazy
- 13:05Speaker 1: of like whoa, but like it's just my main thing
- 13:08Speaker 1: is I just wanted to come back with something that
- 13:10Speaker 1: was like confident and and like some fun. There's nothing
- 13:13Speaker 1: wrong being fun. There's nothing wrong with feeling yourself. And
- 13:16Speaker 1: that's the headspace I wanted to get into before I
- 13:20Speaker 1: came back. I didn't want to come back depressed. Did
- 13:22Speaker 1: Donald Trump ever sue you? No, he never did. I
- 13:25Speaker 1: don't think he really had a case, but he's been
- 13:28Speaker 1: sued for everything. But that's what I'm saying. That's like,
- 13:31Speaker 1: I gotta be careful because I got like, you know,
- 13:33Speaker 1: I can't do I gets suped for everything. Yeah, that
- 13:37Speaker 1: has to be discouraging. It feels like you, in particular
- 13:39Speaker 1: a mixtape unde hundred thousand dollars for for what a
- 13:44Speaker 1: free mixtape song because it was a sample, Yeah, which
- 13:48Speaker 1: is crazy because everybody does that. So yeah, to get
- 13:51Speaker 1: somebody a hunt, you have to give a law of
- 13:52Speaker 1: professor a hundrand. Right. No, look, I can't disclose any
- 13:55Speaker 1: information about amounts of money that you can hear it
- 13:58Speaker 1: on a hundred grandly got but I definitely got sued.
- 14:01Speaker 1: But I mean, look, you feel like he was he
- 14:02Speaker 1: was picked on because of that, because everybody does that. Man,
- 14:05Speaker 1: jay Z do it. I hadn't heard the Great Dre,
- 14:08Speaker 1: I didn't heard Kendrick. I didn't heard everybody do it. Um,
- 14:10Speaker 1: you know what it's for me, I don't want to.
- 14:13Speaker 1: I'm not looking super deep into it, like yeah, like dude,
- 14:17Speaker 1: I think I think when that Lord for Next thing happened,
- 14:20Speaker 1: I think everyone was like whoo too. I mean, like
- 14:24Speaker 1: that really set it off. But like, uh, you know,
- 14:26Speaker 1: it is what it is. You know, It's like I'm
- 14:28Speaker 1: not I'm not sitting here like man, I don't know, man,
- 14:31Speaker 1: why is everyone was suing me? They must not like me? Man,
- 14:34Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like money, right, and
- 14:36Speaker 1: I feel him. I want money too. Your album is
- 14:39Speaker 1: out to day right, No, the videos out today. I
- 14:43Speaker 1: seen Charlottagne doing this research when I walked in here
- 14:47Speaker 1: and I heard you up and watched the video. You
- 14:50Speaker 1: just put it out, excited, excited over mcmill until I
- 14:53Speaker 1: see what its heat is at. Right, You know, but
- 14:55Speaker 1: doesn't it look like a positive more positive place. Yes,
- 14:57Speaker 1: but I just want to make sure you good because
- 14:59Speaker 1: you know, you'll come out a video. Didn't go back
- 15:01Speaker 1: to drugs. No, No, that's true. I mean it's been
- 15:04Speaker 1: a positive It's true though, But like, but that was
- 15:08Speaker 1: the thing is that was the other thing though, is
- 15:10Speaker 1: that is I started to see that that was like
- 15:13Speaker 1: that was my thing, you know, like like that's what
- 15:16Speaker 1: I was being what people were knowing me for. It
- 15:20Speaker 1: was like, oh, Mac Miller smacked white boy, like the
- 15:23Speaker 1: dude that's always on drugs, and I was like, that's
- 15:25Speaker 1: not tight, you know what I mean? Like, especially like
- 15:27Speaker 1: I got a young fans like I'm not I don't
- 15:31Speaker 1: want to I don't want to act like that. That's
- 15:32Speaker 1: it's cool. And then it's just a pointing to your
- 15:34Speaker 1: fans when you go away for such a long period
- 15:36Speaker 1: of time and they're like, dude, what is it? Yeah,
- 15:38Speaker 1: and it's like we love you. What are you? You
- 15:39Speaker 1: know what I'm saying while you are And like like uh,
- 15:43Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I gonna say why are you hiding? Hiding?
- 15:49Speaker 1: But I stopped but uh but no, but um but
- 15:54Speaker 1: like you know, like a lot of a lot of
- 15:57Speaker 1: a lot of my friends that that make music and
- 15:59Speaker 1: also did a lot of drugs. If you know, quit
- 16:01Speaker 1: doing drugs, you know. I mean I think I think
- 16:04Speaker 1: you just get to a point where you're just like, okay,
- 16:07Speaker 1: this is just this is I'm doing too much to
- 16:10Speaker 1: write music though, was you Was that part of your
- 16:12Speaker 1: writing process back then? No? No, yeah, I used drugs
- 16:15Speaker 1: to do everything. Brush my teeth you know, still sound
- 16:18Speaker 1: the same, It still sound good. Because some people need
- 16:20Speaker 1: that for their lyrics. No, I mean I think I
- 16:22Speaker 1: think uh no, I mean I don't think I need it.
- 16:27Speaker 1: I think it's more about what headspace you're in. But
- 16:31Speaker 1: like I said, it was a like I have a
- 16:34Speaker 1: lot of people around me to care about me. What
- 16:36Speaker 1: did your mom say to you? Yeah, I mean she didn't.
- 16:39Speaker 1: I mean she didn't know. And then I hit her
- 16:41Speaker 1: one time and I was like, just told her the
- 16:42Speaker 1: truth because I'm crying. No, probably maybe a little cry
- 16:47Speaker 1: of the type call not like the ones we have.
- 16:51Speaker 1: It was different. No, it was like no, I mean
- 16:55Speaker 1: I think I just kind of broke it down for everyone.
- 16:57Speaker 1: And then after I broke it down for everyone, like
- 17:00Speaker 1: it made it like it makes it that much more
- 17:02Speaker 1: difficult to come back because everyone's like, you're all right,
- 17:05Speaker 1: and then I'm like, yeah, man, I'm fine. That's you know,
- 17:08Speaker 1: like that for a while though, Yeah, but I'm not.
- 17:11Speaker 1: But this thing like I'm not like I'm not out here,
- 17:14Speaker 1: like like fucking never was that? You mean, like like
- 17:21Speaker 1: like I'll do it, like I'll raise somebody for crack,
- 17:23Speaker 1: but like I'm not gonna goodness um nah, but uh
- 17:29Speaker 1: but um nah, I'm what are gonna say? I'm not.
- 17:33Speaker 1: I'm not out here like completely like on some born
- 17:36Speaker 1: again Christian I don't touch a drink. I don't right now,
- 17:39Speaker 1: right exactly. Like I'm still having a good time with
- 17:41Speaker 1: my work progress, but I'm saying this is this is
- 17:45Speaker 1: this is progress. This is progress. But I'm just what
- 17:47Speaker 1: about your MTV show? Did you lose that? I didn't
- 17:49Speaker 1: lose it. I quit it because because it was time
- 17:53Speaker 1: to make room for Tiger. Everyone knows that they was
- 17:59Speaker 1: trying to get him to get White Rabb. I'm like, no,
- 18:01Speaker 1: you can't go get mackelmore. No, no riff Raff, give
- 18:04Speaker 1: it to Tiger. But no, like is having all this
- 18:07Speaker 1: controversy with people thinking that he sleeps with transgenders. Why
- 18:10Speaker 1: I opened up, back up, I gotta ask you, have
- 18:13Speaker 1: you ever been about the show show? Okay, well no,
- 18:17Speaker 1: I never, I've never. I've never been fooled by a
- 18:20Speaker 1: transgender not even almost, not even almost. O I know,
- 18:25Speaker 1: I know. So MTV two show No. Because I wanted
- 18:28Speaker 1: I didn't lose it. Um. I wanted to not go
- 18:33Speaker 1: down as a reality TV star. And I think that
- 18:36Speaker 1: it was like, that's such a big platform that like
- 18:40Speaker 1: that moves, it's at a rapid pace and it's on
- 18:43Speaker 1: repeat all the time, that people are always seeing you there.
- 18:46Speaker 1: That like I wanted to like step back and be like,
- 18:49Speaker 1: let me make sure the music stands front. And also
- 18:52Speaker 1: it was like my schedule was ridiculous. I would be
- 18:56Speaker 1: on tour, come back, have two days off, and I'd
- 18:59Speaker 1: be shooting both those days and I was like, this
- 19:00Speaker 1: is this is too much. That's supposed to be your
- 19:02Speaker 1: day off and right, and it was doing great too.
- 19:05Speaker 1: It was one of your own big one. You don't
- 19:07Speaker 1: help your people though, because I'm sure your people will.
- 19:08Speaker 1: They were they were halfway stars on this. Oh yeah,
- 19:10Speaker 1: they probably got more of a giant and because of it, right,
- 19:14Speaker 1: they do Okay, Actually, that night when you are hung out.
- 19:17Speaker 1: I was like, this has to be annoying because Mac
- 19:18Speaker 1: Miller when we had those drinks that night with you
- 19:21Speaker 1: and your friends. Yeah, they would not leave him alone
- 19:23Speaker 1: everywhere he went. Every it was very man. It's and
- 19:27Speaker 1: and you know, it's just and he didn't have security
- 19:29Speaker 1: that day, so that was really bad. Angelo. Yeah, I
- 19:33Speaker 1: was there. No, I have security, I have I have
- 19:36Speaker 1: I have I have security at certain things, but that
- 19:39Speaker 1: day in particular. Yeah, sometimes I just roll out because
- 19:41Speaker 1: I like I like to do that, Like I like
- 19:43Speaker 1: to just walk around and people be like, yo, you
- 19:46Speaker 1: have no security. And it would be like like like
- 19:48Speaker 1: little bit like little like little white kids going like
- 19:51Speaker 1: you don't need security. I was like, why I need
- 19:53Speaker 1: security for me? Like what do you mean? Like, No,
- 19:55Speaker 1: I'm good with the crew at now. I don't see
- 19:57Speaker 1: nothing with you today. Early. No, I'm everyone's doing that
- 20:01Speaker 1: thing like like the homies are are q Q was
- 20:04Speaker 1: in La. He just got back from doing a panel
- 20:07Speaker 1: at Obo Fest. Uh, Jimmy's hitch hiking across the country
- 20:11Speaker 1: right now. Jesus Christ, get back together, Mac everything. I'm
- 20:20Speaker 1: back together, man. Everyone. You know, everyone's on the soul
- 20:22Speaker 1: searching mission right now? What about big Dude Dave Dave?
- 20:26Speaker 1: They're killing it doing what Dave bouncing at the club.
- 20:33Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, man, I mean, you're gonna be like, hell, yeah,
- 20:36Speaker 1: what's up, dame? How are you? And I'm gonna be
- 20:37Speaker 1: like Mac, Mac did this to you? Why is it
- 20:40Speaker 1: gotta be me? Because you man, Look, I'm not together.
- 20:44Speaker 1: I'm not I'm it's not Look. I just want everyone
- 20:46Speaker 1: to know. It's not that serious. You know, I'm straight.
- 20:50Speaker 1: It's like everyone you know what I mean, Well, happened
- 20:52Speaker 1: to the house. You still got the house at Big House. No,
- 20:54Speaker 1: that's a I moved out of there. That was what
- 20:56Speaker 1: I'm saying. That wasn't good for me. You know, I
- 20:59Speaker 1: don't mean you know all that. That's the other thing
- 21:01Speaker 1: is by nature, I don't need all this excess. It
- 21:04Speaker 1: was kind of for everybody else to have fun. Yeah,
- 21:06Speaker 1: it was like a lot of fun. I didn't need
- 21:08Speaker 1: all I needed to do. You feel like it was
- 21:10Speaker 1: people leaching off you? Nah? No, no, no, no, you
- 21:14Speaker 1: were happy to be jan I was. I was. I
- 21:16Speaker 1: loved What What what am I gonna do with all
- 21:18Speaker 1: this money? Hey? Now I got no cash on me.
- 21:24Speaker 1: You see the way my bank counts set up? Nah,
- 21:29Speaker 1: but but nah man, I mean I I wanted it
- 21:33Speaker 1: was less about anything that had to do with a
- 21:35Speaker 1: dollar and more about that I wanted to kick it
- 21:38Speaker 1: with my people as much as possible. What are you?
- 21:41Speaker 1: What are you reading nowadays? That keeps you keeps your
- 21:44Speaker 1: your energy up because you know, if you if you
- 21:47Speaker 1: listen to McMillan, he's kind of a deep guy. Yeah,
- 21:51Speaker 1: you know when you listen to this music, well, that's
- 21:52Speaker 1: you know, this is just uh That's one thing though,
- 21:55Speaker 1: is that uh no, there's there's some moments on this album,
- 21:59Speaker 1: but it's it's uh, it's less it's less of like
- 22:03Speaker 1: asking all these questions, you know, and it's more of
- 22:06Speaker 1: like because the last albums like this kid who's like
- 22:08Speaker 1: going through life and ask all these questions to asking right,
- 22:11Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying very like like we're like
- 22:15Speaker 1: what are stars? Where the stars come from? Like you know,
- 22:18Speaker 1: and this is a little more like uh like let
- 22:21Speaker 1: me just be direct and like I don't care, like
- 22:25Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm not I'm not
- 22:27Speaker 1: tripping about what my places anymore. I'm not worried about
- 22:30Speaker 1: what's what what I can and can't do. Um, I know,
- 22:35Speaker 1: I know who I am and like I and I'm
- 22:38Speaker 1: just gonna wrap and have a good time. They're not
- 22:40Speaker 1: taking subliminal shots at anybody and eating for that. There's
- 22:44Speaker 1: no subliminals talked away real deep but nothing to anyone wants.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Kind of wrong with asking questions though, man, especially if
- 22:51Speaker 1: you look at for answers. No, for sure, for sure.
- 22:53Speaker 1: But I mean I think I think that that there's
- 22:56Speaker 1: a time and a place for every different kind of
- 22:58Speaker 1: identity in music, you know, I think that they're that that, Uh,
- 23:01Speaker 1: it's okay for artists to to jump around and and
- 23:04Speaker 1: not always be so consistent with the identity they carry
- 23:09Speaker 1: um in their music because humans are way more complex
- 23:12Speaker 1: than that. Absolutely, you're not You're not always this dude,
- 23:16Speaker 1: you know, like like you even take like Kendrick Kendrick
- 23:19Speaker 1: just put out that for free video, right and everyone's like, oh,
- 23:21Speaker 1: Kendrick has a sense of humor. It's like, yeah, Kendricks, SA,
- 23:24Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like and it's like and
- 23:28Speaker 1: so it like for me, it's like, uh, like I
- 23:32Speaker 1: want to make sure I cover all the all the
- 23:36Speaker 1: all the different identities that come with being a human.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I think the key to that is just being yourself.
- 23:41Speaker 1: That's that's something I think POC did so well. You know,
- 23:44Speaker 1: even guys like nah, they oh, they're they're hypocrisis. One
- 23:47Speaker 1: minute they're talking about this, the next minute they're talking
- 23:49Speaker 1: about that. But no, they're just human exactly. And that's
- 23:51Speaker 1: that's such Like, that's like my main focus is like
- 23:55Speaker 1: just keeping it real myself and like and talking about
- 23:57Speaker 1: what I feel, because you see, you can go back
- 24:00Speaker 1: and you see yourself going through this wild emotional journey.
- 24:03Speaker 1: You know, you see yourself with moments of like, damn,
- 24:06Speaker 1: I was fool of self doubt there, and then damn
- 24:09Speaker 1: I was really feeling myself right there, and and there's
- 24:12Speaker 1: a place for all of that, you know, and you
- 24:14Speaker 1: don't have to you don't have to hide any part
- 24:16Speaker 1: of yourself. Um. And I think in music, a lot
- 24:19Speaker 1: of times people get tied up in in the in
- 24:21Speaker 1: the the wrestling aspect of it, you know, like like
- 24:24Speaker 1: the theme music and walking in and this is my
- 24:26Speaker 1: character and and I'm this guy, and it's like, nah, man,
- 24:29Speaker 1: you there's no way you're that every day in your life.
- 24:34Speaker 1: There's no way did you do you run. I think
- 24:35Speaker 1: you run from comparisons, like I remember MTV though we
- 24:38Speaker 1: want you to be the new Rob did right right?
- 24:41Speaker 1: I know what I'm saying, like, do you gotta understand
- 24:43Speaker 1: for someone who's for a kid who's trying to find
- 24:46Speaker 1: his identity, when someone is telling you you're the new this,
- 24:50Speaker 1: You're automatically gonna be offended. I'm saying, you're gonna be like,
- 24:54Speaker 1: I'm not the new Rob, Dude, I'm the first Matt Miller.
- 24:56Speaker 1: I'm not the new eminem On, the first Mate Miller,
- 24:59Speaker 1: Like you're always gonna do that, but now it's like, man, whatever,
- 25:01Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not tribbling. It's everything is about
- 25:05Speaker 1: if you're comfortable with self. All that is like people
- 25:09Speaker 1: can say whatever. So I did get comfortable with self
- 25:11Speaker 1: real quick. When you're scared of Kendrick's control. Verse scared,
- 25:15Speaker 1: no bro old, But no, no, no, not at all,
- 25:19Speaker 1: not at all. I was actually you know what I'm saying, like,
- 25:21Speaker 1: like no, it was so wild. How how I think
- 25:26Speaker 1: even he was surprised with how how much, how big
- 25:29Speaker 1: that was? Um, but nah, I would put you. He
- 25:32Speaker 1: mentioned you, so he put you right into that class
- 25:34Speaker 1: of like new New greats. Right, But but I'm saying, like,
- 25:39Speaker 1: you know whatever, like as he should? You know, um,
- 25:42Speaker 1: and like it was tight because Kendricks someone did I
- 25:44Speaker 1: look up to as an artist and and and it's
- 25:47Speaker 1: in respect as an artist, but like as he should,
- 25:50Speaker 1: I'm not like I'm not like I with myself. I'm out,
- 25:56Speaker 1: do you really put yourself? Do you d do you?
- 26:01Speaker 1: Are you really happy with what I'm saying. That's where
- 26:04Speaker 1: I had to get to you know what I'm saying.
- 26:06Speaker 1: I think there was a there was a long time
- 26:07Speaker 1: where like with someone who loves this music as much
- 26:11Speaker 1: as I do, it was difficult for me to know
- 26:14Speaker 1: like like the I like what I'm doing, my career paths,
- 26:20Speaker 1: what that makes my life? Like what what being a
- 26:25Speaker 1: white rapper means to my life as opposed to be
- 26:28Speaker 1: if I was black or Latino or something. You know
- 26:30Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, all these things were these demons
- 26:33Speaker 1: where now? And that caused me to like not with everything.
- 26:38Speaker 1: So now it's kind of like all right, dude, Like
- 26:42Speaker 1: it's kind of like looking in the mirror. It's like
- 26:44Speaker 1: stop being like a little bit like get up man,
- 26:47Speaker 1: right exactly and take it or else or else are
- 26:50Speaker 1: gonna give it away? And that's you don't want that,
- 26:52Speaker 1: you know what what I'm saying. So, now that you've moved,
- 26:56Speaker 1: what's different about your living arrangements? Like who's with you?
- 26:58Speaker 1: And can you tell me about Yeah, he moved out
- 27:01Speaker 1: of the house. Yeah I moved. Like so I have
- 27:04Speaker 1: a spot in La in the spot in New York,
- 27:06Speaker 1: spin La, I live with my brother. Um, you might
- 27:09Speaker 1: have win broke for real and ain't telling us if
- 27:11Speaker 1: he has in New York. You know you gotta have
- 27:13Speaker 1: money to me here, but might love with his cousin
- 27:16Speaker 1: in New York. Who you live with in New York?
- 27:17Speaker 1: With my girl? Oh mac Man, chill out, bro. You
- 27:22Speaker 1: know you don't see you don't see his wedding ring.
- 27:24Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you got married? No, hell no,
- 27:27Speaker 1: I'm crazy now. No not your girl seven years bro?
- 27:36Speaker 1: Oh that's what's up? Man? Hey man, that's dope. Um
- 27:40Speaker 1: she's black and white mixed okay, so um no, but uh,
- 27:46Speaker 1: my living arrangement is different. It's chiller, it's not it's
- 27:48Speaker 1: not this wild this wild life all the time, which
- 27:51Speaker 1: was something uh, David Bowie, remember my dad told me this.
- 27:55Speaker 1: My Dad. I was like, you know, I was watching
- 27:57Speaker 1: this David Bowie documentary and uh, he went through a
- 28:01Speaker 1: huge cocaine phase and then he moved to New York
- 28:05Speaker 1: and got a really nice apartment and just hung out
- 28:07Speaker 1: and lived. I was like, yeah, Dad, you know, but
- 28:12Speaker 1: what the hell was the point of that? In New York?
- 28:16Speaker 1: You switch up your environment. It's cocaine in New York.
- 28:19Speaker 1: For sure, there is god. He just can't have no positivity. No, No,
- 28:23Speaker 1: it's okay. I feel trying to see what my guy's
- 28:25Speaker 1: head is in. No, but of course there's everything in
- 28:27Speaker 1: New York. You cannot let a location have power over you.
- 28:31Speaker 1: But but it can't run from yourself. You can't. Just
- 28:33Speaker 1: wanted to change. I wanted to get another spot. It's
- 28:36Speaker 1: not that serious. I just wanted to environment. I felt
- 28:39Speaker 1: like picking up and moving. I could just sign a major.
- 28:42Speaker 1: I can be by coastal, you know what I mean?
- 28:45Speaker 1: If you bisexual, I can be by coastal. But who
- 28:51Speaker 1: do you prefer? Me? But on on on a on
- 28:58Speaker 1: a lighter topic, though, I gotta say this. So I
- 29:00Speaker 1: was at Starbucks on my way here, and the person
- 29:04Speaker 1: behind the register came at me crazy girl, girl, girl,
- 29:09Speaker 1: so I came. I came and and I was like, hey,
- 29:13Speaker 1: like coming to get a cold brew. I need to
- 29:15Speaker 1: wake up. It's early. And she was like, I know
- 29:18Speaker 1: your mac something. I seen you on. I've seen you
- 29:22Speaker 1: on I've seen you on a wild Now you was trash.
- 29:28Speaker 1: He said you had She said you had no cuts.
- 29:31Speaker 1: They was cutting you. I was like, I was like,
- 29:33Speaker 1: I was like, what do you At first, I was like,
- 29:37Speaker 1: I was like, damn, can I get a I said
- 29:39Speaker 1: to vent venty cold brews? No. I was like, I
- 29:42Speaker 1: was like, uh, damn. Really, I was like I thought
- 29:45Speaker 1: I killed it. It was pretty good. She's like, nah,
- 29:48Speaker 1: you can't kill it. They killed you. You had no jokes.
- 29:51Speaker 1: I was like, this is crazy. Supposed to treat you
- 29:54Speaker 1: like start making these public appearances, taking the more serious yeah,
- 29:57Speaker 1: Like like like, but like what if that really messed
- 29:59Speaker 1: up up my whole coming to the show today? Like
- 30:01Speaker 1: what if I walked in like, man, where are you
- 30:04Speaker 1: back on wine? Now? No? I was tight, I killed
- 30:07Speaker 1: Nick Cannon. You gotta respect everybody's feel It's just an opinion.
- 30:09Speaker 1: I thing. No, No, No, I was funny as hell.
- 30:12Speaker 1: I was like amazing. I was like, Yo, this she's
- 30:14Speaker 1: just amazing. She just trashed me at seven forty five
- 30:18Speaker 1: in the morning from behind Starbucks, like just killed me
- 30:21Speaker 1: and I had nothing to say. You gotta expect the honesty, though, Yeah,
- 30:23Speaker 1: I was like I was like, I was like, it's like,
- 30:26Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, you got you got killed you with
- 30:28Speaker 1: no jokes. I was like, yeah, well, you know it's harder.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Just check out my new video, you know what I mean?
- 30:36Speaker 1: Can I just get that coffee? Thank you God bless
- 30:39Speaker 1: you know. I remember the rule of ten man. Three
- 30:41Speaker 1: people are gonna like it, through people are not gonna
- 30:42Speaker 1: like it, and four people are not even gonna care,
- 30:44Speaker 1: right exactly, And that's fine. Just say it to my face,
- 30:46Speaker 1: not on Twitter, right. But I'm I'm dude. Like That's
- 30:48Speaker 1: the other thing is like I'm cool with whatever, Like
- 30:51Speaker 1: I'm really like, like you got to separate the difference
- 30:55Speaker 1: between what's real and was not. Like I have a life,
- 30:57Speaker 1: and that's what was a big part of these paths
- 31:00Speaker 1: this recent times was like living, like getting back to
- 31:03Speaker 1: being a human being, going out, like getting to drink
- 31:06Speaker 1: with friends, go like caring about that, going taking a trip,
- 31:13Speaker 1: exercise a little bit, you know what I'm saying. So
- 31:15Speaker 1: you feel like you lost yourself in the industry. Basically, well,
- 31:18Speaker 1: I feel like I got too tired because I was
- 31:21Speaker 1: maturing as as as somebody in this and I think
- 31:24Speaker 1: I was, uh you you you look at uh you
- 31:28Speaker 1: you just kind of look at this too seriously seriously
- 31:31Speaker 1: And when you're worried about your legacy too much, what
- 31:33Speaker 1: am I going to leave behind? How am I gonna
- 31:35Speaker 1: be remembered? All that? Man like you got today. Absolutely
- 31:38Speaker 1: enjoyed the moment exactly. I mean, you do got to
- 31:40Speaker 1: think for the future because everything you do in your
- 31:41Speaker 1: life today does affect what happens in your life to
- 31:43Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, but you still gotta enjoy the moment, right,
- 31:45Speaker 1: I mean, just don't be don't be an idiot, and
- 31:47Speaker 1: trust your gut, trust yourself. So it's the new album
- 31:50Speaker 1: gonna be on some like commercial record label. No, hell no,
- 31:54Speaker 1: I would not do that fun silly stuff. No, no, no,
- 31:57Speaker 1: hell no. No. They still you to make your own decisions. Yeah,
- 32:02Speaker 1: that was that was a big thing. There's no like
- 32:04Speaker 1: executive producer, there's no an or, there's no there were
- 32:08Speaker 1: labels that I got that vibe from that. They're like, yeah,
- 32:11Speaker 1: you should come here, because we got the best producers
- 32:14Speaker 1: and da da da da. And it's like but the
- 32:17Speaker 1: warner was really like, look, whatever you did so far
- 32:21Speaker 1: working you do you whenever you want to give us
- 32:24Speaker 1: a radio single, let us know. You know, it's like okay,
- 32:26Speaker 1: word sounds good. Yeah, So like you know the album
- 32:30Speaker 1: that I would I would never sacrifice making the most
- 32:33Speaker 1: important thing to me is making a good album. Good Am, septembrayteenth.
- 32:38Speaker 1: And that's what I said in the meeting. I said,
- 32:39Speaker 1: I don't like if I sell singles or not sell singles. Whatever,
- 32:42Speaker 1: I want to sell albums. That's what I want to
- 32:44Speaker 1: move albums. Why good Am? Is it actually good morning? Yeah?
- 32:47Speaker 1: It's like it's yeah. No. Idea actually helped me come
- 32:50Speaker 1: up with the because I didn't like good Morning as
- 32:53Speaker 1: a title, but I liked it as a concept, like
- 32:55Speaker 1: because I wanted the album to be like that that
- 32:58Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like like we'll talk came about
- 33:00Speaker 1: you know, it's like the breath of fresh air. Like
- 33:02Speaker 1: you it's like you walk out the door and you
- 33:05Speaker 1: go to Starbucks, you get trash. But what I'm saying
- 33:10Speaker 1: is I wanted I wanted that feeling um um of
- 33:13Speaker 1: like just just something refreshing and uh and I was
- 33:18Speaker 1: talking to no Idea and Studious playing some records. I
- 33:20Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's called good morning, but I don't
- 33:23Speaker 1: like that title. It's too simple. He's just like called
- 33:25Speaker 1: good am. He was like okay. I was like okay,
- 33:27Speaker 1: He's like, now I'm executive. He's like, now let me now.
- 33:31Speaker 1: You know, but that that was dope that he did that.
- 33:33Speaker 1: But yeah, he's still cool with Q. Yeah, que someone
- 33:37Speaker 1: who also like ques qu Is. Q is a clean
- 33:41Speaker 1: like Q is. You're talking about school with Q, right, Yeah,
- 33:44Speaker 1: he's clean. He's like he works out all the time.
- 33:47Speaker 1: He doesn't do drugs, he doesn't drink really, he stopped
- 33:51Speaker 1: smoking as much. Like he's like really focused right now.
- 33:54Speaker 1: It's just beautiful. That's the kind of association you want
- 33:56Speaker 1: to be herod right exactly. You know, you know, hey, hey, yeah,
- 34:04Speaker 1: good Day the eighteenth is to day middle ladies and gentlemen.
- 34:08Speaker 1: We appreciate. That's a good influence, great influence. Hey man,
- 34:14Speaker 1: I'd rather than drink and do drugs. It's the breakfast clubs,
- 34:18Speaker 1: Black a mellow