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"Ghost Tankers" (Friday December 12 2025, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: What do you think about the goat problem on a
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  Speaker 1: need to know basis, because you need to know the
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  Speaker 1: first thing today?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, definitely, I feel we have too many dopes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, jord said, steal me step. You have a day
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  Speaker 3: at least for work. When the sun comes up, drops
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  Speaker 3: a kid to scoot you.
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  Speaker 4: Joey is eything a dream do all the joasure set
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  Speaker 4: and needs no one that Joe's allies smile.
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  Speaker 5: He only as peg.
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  Speaker 6: Joe, Happy Friday. Thank you for joining me here where
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  Speaker 6: we will tell you what went on last night, and
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  Speaker 6: we'll tell you what we see in our analysis of
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  Speaker 6: the evidence left at the crime scene. And uh, then
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  Speaker 6: we want to hear how it's impacting you the singular
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  Speaker 6: most local part of your radio station. I know that
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  Speaker 6: you don't realize it because nobody says it out loud,
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  Speaker 6: but you know everyone talks about local, local, local. You are.
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  Speaker 6: And let's talk independent, independent, independent, and we'll get further
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  Speaker 6: in George Carlin. There again a lot of reaction on
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  Speaker 6: the news, the leak, if you will, that President Trump
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  Speaker 6: is mulling the idea of transitioning the marijuana off of
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  Speaker 6: the Schedule one narcotics list, and this one. I think
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  Speaker 6: is is a telling point about what President Trump is thinking.
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  Speaker 6: guess she it's another one of those names. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: my kids are named Taylor, Kyle, and Morgan. I'll get
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  Speaker 6: you know, you figure out which ones are the boys
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  Speaker 6: and the girls. So sorry Andy for misgendering you, or
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  Speaker 6: if that's such a thing anymore. But City writes in Joe,
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  Speaker 6: you know well enough that Donald Trump does stuff like
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  Speaker 6: this to gauge public reaction. This is better than calling
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  Speaker 6: the McLauchlin group to do a pole into the field.
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  Speaker 6: You're right, and I think you mean Rasmusen. I think
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  Speaker 6: mcgloncherlin group was a PBS show. But I get your point.
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  Speaker 6: You know, the Rasmusen people couldn't get an honest pole,
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  Speaker 6: if you know, Oh, they're probably better than most. But
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  Speaker 6: this is the best sense of what the Vox popular is.
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  Speaker 6: President kind of leaks this information to the press. It
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  Speaker 6: gets out there, and to see, as somebody said earlier,
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  Speaker 6: he's not going to win over the lefties with TDS.
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  Speaker 6: THHC does not cure TDS. I like that line. Let's
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  Speaker 6: save that one. But our first things this morning. Yes,
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  Speaker 6: Axios is reporting that Donald Trump's administration at the beginning
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  Speaker 6: of next year is mulling a transition of marijuana off
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  Speaker 6: of the Schedule one narcotic list because it has no
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  Speaker 6: accepted medical use. So that's what Schedule one drugs say,
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  Speaker 6: but their argument is that it does. West Virginia Governor
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  Speaker 6: Patrick Morrissey said Thursday the parents of Air Force Staff
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  Speaker 6: Sergeant Andrew Wolfe are optimistic about his recovery after the
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  Speaker 6: attack on the National Guards troops in Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 6: During a news conference, Morrissey said that Wolfe's mothered Melody,
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  Speaker 6: reports that her son is now smiling, moving more of
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  Speaker 6: his right side, and able to sit in a chair
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  Speaker 6: for a few hours while he remains hospitalized working on
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  Speaker 6: his recovery. Twenty House Republicans joined all the Democrats to
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  Speaker 6: pass a bill reversing President Trump's executive order blocking most
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  Speaker 6: federal unions on Thursday. The bill, led by Jared Golden,
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  Speaker 6: a Maine Democrat, got to the vote through a discharge petition.
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  Speaker 6: A man accused the man accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk
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  Speaker 6: made his first in person court appearance yesterday, three months
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  Speaker 6: after he was taken into custody. It's not his first hearing,
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  Speaker 6: it's the first one held in public after much friction
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  Speaker 6: from media outlets and even from Kirk's widow, Erica, on
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  Speaker 6: the secrecy surrounding the proceedings. When queried about the raid
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  Speaker 6: that took in a tanker from Venezuela by US marines,
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  Speaker 6: the President said that the United States military will soon
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  Speaker 6: begin strikes to interdict narcotic shipments moving overland from Venezuela
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  Speaker 6: and route to the United States. He did not say
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  Speaker 6: they would be in Venezuela. Speaking of the tanker raid,
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  Speaker 6: the Russian foreign minister reiterate. Russian Foreign Minister serge A
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  Speaker 6: Lavrov has decided to demand an answer as to what
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  Speaker 6: gives the US the right to take the Venezuelan tanker
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  Speaker 6: over he said, while keeping a straight face at a
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  Speaker 6: roundtable solving the crisis in Ukraine. I really hope that
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  Speaker 6: the United States will somehow explain, out of respect for
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  Speaker 6: other members of the world community, what facts led them
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  Speaker 6: to such actions. Nobody stopped to tell him why. There
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  Speaker 1: The first Thing Today on the Talk Media Network by
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  Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, The second most Famous Thomas and.
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  Speaker 6: Charlotte's amend to that, speaking of fighting the Good Fights
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  Speaker 6: Uh now podcaster host of the Good for America podcast.
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  Speaker 6: He is a former Congressman. Bob good Uh and Bob I.
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  Speaker 6: Appreciate you hanging out with us a little bit on
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  Speaker 6: this Friday morning. A couple of things I wanted to
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  Speaker 6: hit on before you headed out.
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  Speaker 17: One, No, I think he's wrong on policy.
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  Speaker 6: Two, the policy of AI being the question I left
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  Speaker 6: you with before we went to the news there is.
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  Speaker 6: So you think he's wrong to try to step in
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  Speaker 6: and get in front of state legislators and the policy
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  Speaker 6: regarding AI.
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  Speaker 17: One No, I think he's wrong on policy too. He's
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  Speaker 17: wrong on process and what he's doing. I think he's
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  Speaker 17: wrong on policy because you mean to tell me AI.
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  Speaker 17: These really bright, brilliant people can't figure out how to
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  Speaker 17: navigate AI. They can't figure out how to navigate fifty
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  Speaker 17: state laws that I think would end up being more
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  Speaker 17: similar than they would be different. But Number one, I
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  Speaker 17: disagree with the policy, and so do the majority of
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  Speaker 17: Republicans in Congress, and that's why they wouldn't pass an
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  Speaker 17: AI bill doing what he has just declared that he's
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  Speaker 17: going to do anyway without Congress. So he's wrong to
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  Speaker 17: do the executive order on his own to circumvent the
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  Speaker 17: will of the people's representatives, of the lawmakers, the lawmakers,
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  Speaker 17: the legislative branch, and do it on his own. You've
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  Speaker 17: got great governors like Governor Ronda Sanders in Florida taking
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  Speaker 17: good conservative action to regulate AI in their state, and
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  Speaker 17: then you've got the White House saying no, we're not
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  Speaker 17: going to allow you to do that. I suspect those
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  Speaker 17: big tech companies who are contributing to the White House
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  Speaker 17: ballroom in addition to one of their h one b
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  Speaker 17: VSAs they want their AI freedom, and as does probably
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  Speaker 17: in Nvidio, who were just allowed to sell chips to
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  Speaker 17: China to a greater capacity we just announced, so they
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  Speaker 17: can try to beat us in the AI war. By
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  Speaker 17: the way, but don't wear the federal governments taking a
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  Speaker 17: twenty five percent stake in the revenue from those chip sales.
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  Speaker 6: I guess that becomes where you start looking for these
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  Speaker 6: what was that old TV show connections? You know, the
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  Speaker 6: hip bone is connected to the shinbone, and I think
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  Speaker 6: it disappoints a lot of people because they were expecting
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  Speaker 6: different things. Last question, my son said to me, man,
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  Speaker 6: those marines are tough. You know, a couple of dozen
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  Speaker 6: marines can take over a whole freightership, a whole tankership
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  Speaker 6: in Venezuela. You know, not so much about the seizing
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  Speaker 6: of this tanker ship which was doing a ton of
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  Speaker 6: illegal things which we can get into. But the idea
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  Speaker 6: of these war powers legislations UH coming along. You know,
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  Speaker 6: what is your view on that? What are you hearing
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  Speaker 6: from you from your friends on the hill?
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  Speaker 17: Well, I am concerned about the escalating UH situation there
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  Speaker 17: in Venezuela. I am concerned about the regime change apparent
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  Speaker 17: intentions that has kind of kind of like government subsidies.
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  Speaker 17: Tell me when that is work. When we've toppled a
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  Speaker 17: regime and we've set up a regime and it's been
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  Speaker 17: better when the people aren't willing to fight for themselves,
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  Speaker 17: for freedom, for a republic for i'll say democracy low
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  Speaker 17: de democracy in a sense, And so I am concerned
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  Speaker 17: about that. I'm concerned about We could talk and if
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  Speaker 17: we had more time on the Monroe doctrine, where we
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  Speaker 17: you know, our policy historical policies that we want to
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  Speaker 17: use our power. We're going to prevent others from coming
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  Speaker 17: into our hemisphere, but we're also not going to you know,
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  Speaker 17: use our power to attack other countries within the hemisphere.
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  Speaker 17: You pose a threat to us, and it's hard for
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  Speaker 17: me to really justify or defends hit that Venezuela is
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  Speaker 17: truly a threat to our country.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate it. Good for America. Dot org is
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  Speaker 6: where you find the podcast. What's coming up this week?
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  Speaker 17: Well, we'll have an episode coming out today and the
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  Speaker 17: title of it is, Yes, there's an affordability crisis. No,
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  Speaker 17: it's not Trump's fault.
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  Speaker 6: Oh I love it because we need to grab this
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  Speaker 6: issue and teach people how to message on it. Thank you, Bob.
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  Speaker 6: You have a wonderful day, and we will talk to
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  Speaker 6: you again next week.
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  Speaker 17: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: My friend got a message better, just have to message
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  Speaker 6: better about that. About the tanker, take a minute here
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  Speaker 6: and understand a couple of things the tanker was doing.
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  Speaker 6: We didn't just take the tanker because we've decided we
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  Speaker 6: want to be pirates. It wasn't pirate Wednesday are prepared
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  Speaker 6: to be barred in the first thing that tanker was
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  Speaker 6: doing was sending out a jamming signal that made it
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  Speaker 6: look like it was somewhere completely different violation one. So
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  Speaker 6: so when before you everyone said to well, well, what
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  Speaker 6: gives us the right to do this? This is something
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  Speaker 6: that Russia would do. And you know, and and my
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  Speaker 6: favorite part of this gag is the Russians all of
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  Speaker 6: a sudden visiting their righteous indignation of well, I hope
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  Speaker 6: America tells the world what their justification was. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: my gosh, of all the countries, you couldn't have gotten
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  Speaker 6: the Belarus ambassador to say that. You couldn't have convinced somebody,
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  Speaker 6: you know, another client state of the Soviet, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: of Russia, to to go out and say that, couldn't
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  Speaker 6: have had a Ran say that. No, you had to.
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  Speaker 6: You had to say it yourself, you know, while you're
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  Speaker 6: at a round table discussion about Ukraine and you're invade
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  Speaker 6: of it. It's amazing to me. But so this Russian indignation,
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  Speaker 6: aside from the humor to it, the tanker itself was
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  Speaker 6: violating several different levels of maritime law in the first place,
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  Speaker 6: and the most important one is was trying to obscure
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  Speaker 6: its location, the shadow fleet as they call it. And
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  Speaker 6: and this is the part of the story I wanted
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  Speaker 6: to share. So the signal locator on this tanker, if
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  Speaker 6: you were just to look at it on I think
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  Speaker 6: it's it's called ship finder. There's the looked like it
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  Speaker 6: was on the coast of Guyana and then the transponder
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  Speaker 6: started to make it look like it was doing these
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  Speaker 6: wild zigzag maneuvers that a freighter of its size couldn't do.
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  Speaker 6: That's when the Americans had it, and they went in
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  Speaker 6: and they took the ship because it was running oil
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  Speaker 6: out of Venezuela to places that it was sanctioned from
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  Speaker 6: selling to. I was reading a piece about ships like
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  Speaker 6: this tanker, the Skipper. It's called a shadow fleet of
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  Speaker 6: old oil tankers that smuggle oil for countries that are
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  Speaker 6: facing stiff sanctions, such as Venezuela, Russia, and Iran. Michelle
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  Speaker 6: wish Bachmann, analyst at Windward, a meant a maritime intelligence firm,
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  Speaker 6: said that this there are hundreds of flagless, stateless tankers
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  Speaker 6: And to that text message, another point is the states
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  Speaker 6: that have legalized or decriminalized marijuana have never seen the
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  Speaker 6: getting out of the decriminalized marijuana world. There, Andy, thank
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  Speaker 6: you for hanging on this morning, sir. What's going on?
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  Speaker 5: Well, there were a couple of things first of all,
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  Speaker 5: Right, I'm just and this was this was really about
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  Speaker 6: Busy busy day this morning. This one from Oregon from Cara.
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  Speaker 6: I believe many poisonings of innocent pets and children from
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  Speaker 6: mean this is there are so many things that have
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  Speaker 6: gone wrong because we haven't managed to deal with this
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  Speaker 6: in the right way. It's it's like government subsidized crime.
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  Speaker 6: And this is what I think. And again Trump might
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  Speaker 6: have said this just simply to gauge what kind of
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  Speaker 6: reaction the world would have if he said, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 6: thinking of doing this. And understand, Trump is a guy
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  Speaker 6: who doesn't drink. Trump watched his uncle. Read his bio
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  Speaker 6: talks so eloquently about watching his uncle ruin his life
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  Speaker 6: with being an alcoholic. It is it is where he
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  Speaker 6: is looking at an issue dispassionately. I view this and saying,
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  Speaker 6: is this something we're getting in the way of medical
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  Speaker 6: uses for this stuff because we are keeping it in
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  Speaker 6: the shadows, and I think it is I've got this
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  Speaker 6: text message about what Bob Good said about these tech
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  Speaker 6: companies in videos. Ceter steven Writes and Joe I recall
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  Speaker 6: listening to a morning radio show on the day after
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  Speaker 6: President Trump announced that we were going to get a
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  Speaker 6: twenty five percent share of in Nvidia, and part of
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  Speaker 6: me hearing Bob Good talking about how that couldn't possibly
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  Speaker 6: be in connection to why the president wants federal overreach
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  Speaker 6: into artificial intelligence regulation. Two quick points ripped from the
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  Speaker 6: pages of your show. Number One, isn't this yet more
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  Speaker 6: of the federal government misusing the commerce clause? Because the
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  Speaker 6: Internet is one of those great places if highways were
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  Speaker 6: not enough, the internet certainly is a place where a
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  Speaker 6: business in Iowa can become a business in Virginia. I
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  Speaker 6: think you're right into this. Secondly, and this is I
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  Speaker 6: think the more important point. He said, You've said this before.
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  Speaker 6: Aren't there already rules on the books regarding a lot
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  Speaker 6: of the things that AI is capable of doing, such
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  Speaker 6: as image manipulation and things like that. Yeah? Absolutely absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: I mean there are already copyright infringements and cases without
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  Speaker 6: new case law being brought up Stephen that gather in
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  Speaker 6: artificial intelligence. But his last point on the whole Nvidia connection,
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  Speaker 6: his point about why this is bad for the government
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  Speaker 6: to be in bed with businesses. First off, it's what
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  Speaker 6: you know, of course, by threat of violence Mussolini did.
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  Speaker 6: But beyond and beside that, the control of the means
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  Speaker 6: of production, or even just a partial control over the
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  Speaker 6: means of production, corrupts your stand on something. You say,
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  Speaker 6: is this constitutionally right for each state to be able
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  Speaker 6: to regulate artificial intelligence uses in its state, But it
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  Speaker 6: would cost us money because we have a twenty five
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  Speaker 6: percent share in Nvidia. You see what I mean about
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  Speaker 6: corrupting the decision making process. So what you need to do,
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: First off, you need to not be a co owner
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  Speaker 6: of Invidia if you're the US government. However, I fear
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  Speaker 6: that now that this barrier has been broken, we're going
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  Speaker 6: to see more of this and when the left wingers
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  Speaker 6: get in, you know, you, Johnny bar the door. How
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  Speaker 6: many green energy companies do you think we can own
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  Speaker 6: twenty five percent stakes in? So we're already corrupting our
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  Speaker 6: decision making process by our ownership of the companies that
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  Speaker 6: would see these regulations. Do we need and I think
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  Speaker 6: this becomes the bigger question, do we need to go
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  Speaker 6: through the US Constitution and specifically the Bill of Rights
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  Speaker 6: and make sure that what artificial intelligence is capable of
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  Speaker 6: doing we're okay with. So, for example, one of the
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  Speaker 6: best applications is I understand it of artificial intelligence is research?
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  Speaker 6: Is being able to pour through gazillion times more data
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  Speaker 6: than a human being or a team of human beings
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  Speaker 6: could ever do. Is there are civil liberties issue with this?
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  Speaker 6: In a world that already has this ostensibly black hole
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  Speaker 6: of law, one law contradicting another law contradicting a third law,
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  Speaker 6: all developing this density, this mass of law that is
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  Speaker 6: so dense that justice itself cannot get out. If you're
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  Speaker 6: able to search all of this incongruent jurisprudence to find
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  Speaker 6: the case law that makes your case against somebody, does
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  Speaker 6: this not make it easier for you to maliciously prosecute?
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  Speaker 6: What are the guardrails regarding using artificial intelligence to conduct
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  Speaker 6: police investigations? What are the guarders? What is the transparency
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  Speaker 6: of a defense attorney to see the work product to
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  Speaker 6: be able to use AI to defend their client. Well,
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  Speaker 6: you say, my client violated this section of the US Code,
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  Speaker 6: But this section of the US Code says that just
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  Speaker 6: the opposite is true. Because we have segments of the
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  Speaker 6: US Code that contradict one another. Does how can you
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  Speaker 6: and are you guaranteed that this whole development of the
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  Speaker 6: three felonies a day industry isn't guard railed? Eddie writes
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  Speaker 6: in on the Wacky Tobacci. The state of Colorado and
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  Speaker 6: Washington both legalized marijuana use for adults over twenty one,
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  Speaker 6: and the next Super Bowl was played between Denver Broncos
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  Speaker 6: and the Seattle Seahawks. Go figure, and again, this is
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  Speaker 6: an inanimate object, just like artificial intelligence is a computer product.
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  Speaker 6: It can do amazingly great things, medical investigations, that kind
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  Speaker 6: of stuff. I think the capabilities of AI are amazing.
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  Speaker 6: But how are your civil liberties going to be protected
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  Speaker 6: within there? What does your defense attorney have access to
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  Speaker 6: so that you can defend yourself against an accusation? Perhaps
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  Speaker 6: build out of artificial intelligence or wacky to Maggie, maybe
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  Speaker 6: is a little bit of both. Anyway, we wrap for
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