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Show 212: THE OBLIGATION OF HEARING MASS · The Uncensored Catholic

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Speaker 1: A Hey, y'all, welcome this week's show.
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Speaker 2: We will pick up where we left off last say,
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and the questioner in radio replies a modernist and atheist
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and agnostic is questioning the priests, trying to make them
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justify Catholic teaching in regard to what was in the thirties.
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Speaker 1: Modern science.
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Speaker 2: And he asked, did God really take a rib from
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Adam and make a woman there from? And they answer,
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we're bound to believe that Eve was formed from Adam.
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It is revealed doctrine that God made of one all
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mankind at Sex seventeen twenty six. For the man is
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not of the woman, but the woman of the man
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First Corinthians eleven eight. Nor has reason anything to say
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the contrary. It is easy for God to make a
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woman that way, as to make man Adam from the
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earth or from nothing.
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Speaker 1: He goes on.
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Speaker 2: Besides Adam and Eve, we read only of Cain and Abel,
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whom did Cain marry? And they answer, your knowledge is inadequate.
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Had you read on, you would have seen the fifth
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chapter of Genesis that Adam begot Seth and after that
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lived on for some eight hundred years, begetting sons and daughters.
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Cain very probably married a sister. He could have even
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married a niece, but that would involve the marriage of
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a brother and a sister at some stage, or indeed
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of several brothers and sisters. With the cessation of necessity.
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Such close iner relationship was forbidden, but special conditions naturally prevailed.
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In such special circumstances as the starting of the human race,
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God exercised a special providence to safeguard the earliest human
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beings from the evils usually associated with close centered marriage.
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What does that mean, Well, it's actually not really immoral
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to marry a cousin. If it were, there wouldn't be
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many kings or royalty or actually people of noble birth
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at all in this world. I mean, look at King
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so called King Charles. He's about as inbred as the
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kid that played the banjo and Deliverance. He just talks well,
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but there are health issues. So when they're actually talking
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of evil in this situation, and they're talking about harms,
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genetic deficiencies of having too close to a bloodline, and
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after all, his sister would not be so closely related
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to Cain as Eve was to Adam. After all, Eve
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was made from Adam's rib or something like Cain's wife
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was not made out of his own rib. Whom Cain
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married precisely is not mentioned as not being very important.
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One book cannot give all the names that have occurred
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in history, and the Bible gives but a summary outline
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of chief events very important to remember. I was actually
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stumbled across an utterly ridiculous post by someone today. I
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think it was on Twitter, come and Facebook, but they
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were claiming to have traced the lineage of King Charles
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so called. And I say that because he's not the
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legitimate King of England.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: The Kings of Wessex are the House of Wessex, are
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the legitimate Kings of England.
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Speaker 1: They're nothing.
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Speaker 2: He and his family are nothing but usurpers to the
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actual Catholic throne of England. Got there through substrufuge and
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murder and dirty dealings and have no legitimate right to
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the throne. But anyway, this guy decided that he could
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trace King Charles so called all the way back to Adam,
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and he claimed to have every generation from Adam and
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Eve up to King Charles, showing that they are the
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heirs to like the legitimate like ultimate chosen by God
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to rule the world, absolute total bs. I would say
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it in a much more stringent terms were I not
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doing a religious podcast. I'm actually of the House of Wessex.
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My great great great great grandfather was.
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Speaker 1: Lord Cheshire.
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Speaker 2: I can trace my lineage back to guys like you know,
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King Edward, the confessor of King Richard Lyonheart Aarrowaith and
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all those names I really can't pronounce. I know exactly
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what the lineage is of the Royalty of England, and
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frankly it's not that impressive. Gad the first kings and
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that we have several saints. The Catholic kings were really great.
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The Windsors they are not legitimate. I mean they're basically well,
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they are truly illegitimate. They're basically bastards and conniving, thoroughly corrupt.
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Not their reign is not established by God, and they
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are not the legitimate kings of England, who by definition
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would be Catholic. They are apostates and heretics and usually
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inbred morons. Okay, now one of the Kings of Wessex
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got there. Well, basically there were warriors who conquer nation.
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You know, did God allow them to conquronation. I don't know,
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but they eventually led the nation to become Catholic and
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they have a legitimate right to rule. Could be a
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few others in that, you know, the Normans, Norman and
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and maybe even some of the.
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Speaker 1: What what would you call him? Norwegian?
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Speaker 2: Not Norse, that's the word I'm looking for. Some of
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the Norse lineage. You could say that the Picts and
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the and the Welsh, and you know the other original
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you know, Anglo people, Saxon's and everything would have a
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legitimate rule. But God did choose one to convert England
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into a Catholic nation, and then King Henry the eighth
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took it away. And also related to King Henry the Eighth,
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you know, I can in all honesty and say he
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was an Antichrist. I'm also related to the royals of
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Ireland very much a similar situation.
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Speaker 1: Warrior kings.
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Speaker 2: Carol actually translate to well, if I was pronounced it
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phonetically be carab hell, it's more like carol or that's
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been slaughter in ancient Gaelic. They were really fierce warrior
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kings who became Catholic kings of England, I mean of Ireland. Sorry,
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of Ireland. Uh, well parts of the British and well
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what's now England, Uh, part of Scotland. You know, the
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cousin was the king of Scotland. That's how the so
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called Scone Stone of Scone or Stone of Destiny got
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from Ireland to Scotland. The mythical stone that was said
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to have been brought to the Celtic peoples actually from
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the Hebrew peoples, is supposed to scream when the legitimate
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error is crowned upon it. Okay, very saying it similar
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in Scotland. Yeah, in Scotland, of course, the Scots caved
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to the English. The Scotland the Brave became Scotland subservient
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and uh forsook for yes, forsook its Catholic religion and
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became essentially slaves to the English. You know, lots of
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interesting personalities in that. It can't really fall to anyone,
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but you know, watch Brave Heart you kind of figure out.
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Speaker 1: What it was all about.
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Speaker 2: I'm related to Royalty of Spain very much a similar
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situation there. Spain remained Catholic though, but you know it's
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had SUPs and downs. French, Yes, I've got French royalty
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lots of French royal blood. So when I talk about
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the French Revolution and how it was again Antichrist, you know,
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I can speak with you know. I love for France,
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I love the food, I love the people. Those are
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my people just as much as the Irish, just as
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much as the English.
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Speaker 1: But it's an apostate nation.
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Speaker 2: More so, I guess I was even in the English
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because of the terrible violence of the French Revolution and
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really the fostering and founding of communism. I mean, you know,
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we think of communism as Karl Marx and Ingles. You know,
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they're basically living in Paris. I mean they were, you know,
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the fruits of the French Revolution became the Communist revolution
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of the late eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds. And
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it's anti christ, it's anti Catholic, it's anti Christian, it's
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atheistic at its core. So now let's see, shall we
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continue with this atheist Well, just a couple more questions,
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he says, do you believe with science that man has
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been on earth tens of thousands of years? Or do
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you believe the Bible story? And see this is the
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thing just like that, How shall I be charitable?
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Speaker 1: Misguided?
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Speaker 2: Soul who tried to trace so called King Charles's lineage
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to Adam and Eve.
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Speaker 1: People like to.
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Speaker 2: Take the Bible literally when it's really a summation of events.
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The genealogies and heritage in there are not to be
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taken literally, as I've said, Okay, I just told you
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my great great I think it's sixth grade. If I
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remember back, the fifth or sixth great grandfather was Lord Cheshire.
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You know what, I can't tell you who his son was,
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and I can't actually tell you who his father was.
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We get the highlights, you know, we remember, like the
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ones that really stand out and in the Bible. Yeah,
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there's probably you know, a HydroD generations left out between
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these genealogies when they're reading him off, you know. I mean,
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nobody really has any idea how the earth is and
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how many generations have been on it except God himself,
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and like it or not, he's never really revealed that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the.
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Speaker 2: Bible talks about the thephylum, the so called sons of
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fallen angels who mix with humanity, who were giants. Well,
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I mean for years that was thought it was just
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like a myth, right. I Mean, people say we got
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to take the Bible very literally. Well, people said it
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was a myth because you know, a giant, a son
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of an angel with a human. Then you know the
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church for quite a while, and I think, I think,
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I don't know they've ever officially, there's no official doctrine
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as far as I know, said that these were giants
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in their not in the physical terms, but in their
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proclivity to evil. They were just so cruel they were
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considered giants of being bad. That's a bit of a
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stretch in my opinion, but it makes sense. And then
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you find things that you just can't explain, Like around Cherokee,
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North Carolina, not far from where I live, there's this
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giant handprint in the stone, a human hand, like a
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massive human hand, like ten feet from pinky to thumb.
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And the legend is that the giant was walking through
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and stumbled and leaned and printed his hand. I can't
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explain that. I mean literally, I cannot explain that. Can
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you explain that? No one can tell how that imprint
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in that stone got there. So you know, as far
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as I'm concerned, you'd call me crazy. I think I'm foolish,
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But the jury's out for me. I mean, are the
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dragons that are mentioned or the sea serpents in the Bible?
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Speaker 1: Dinosaurs?
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Speaker 2: Did people find the dinosaur bones and come up with
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missing legends or were their actual human beings living at
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the same time of the dinosaurs. Nobody actually knows. I mean,
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the Darwinists will go on and you know great length
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about the missing link and how eight became man. They
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can't find those fossils, they cannot show that missing link.
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It's never been proved, so I mean, but they make
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that as a scientific claim. I'm sitting here as a
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Catholic saying I have no idea how old.
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Speaker 1: The Earth is.
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Speaker 2: I have no idea. If man was on earth with dinosaurs,
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I have no idea if there were once giants walking
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the face of the earth. We know there were giant animals.
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Could there have been giant human beings. I have no idea,
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and I don't need to because really that's not of
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any importance.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what.
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Speaker 2: Matters is how you live your life and how you
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die and if you make it to heaven. I don't
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have to understand everything. I mean, there are mysteries of
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the faith. I can't explain to you. Really, the Trinity,
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I can under I have a concept of it, But
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can I actually explain the nature of the Trinity?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 2: Can I explain how bread and wine becomes the body
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and blood of Christ? Absolutely not. But I believe it
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does because God said it that it's the truth. It
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has to be the truth, otherwise He's not God. Otherwise
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I have no religion whatsoever. But it's not even something
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I question. Even when as a Protestant I believed it,
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I didn't understand that the you know, Protestantism does not
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believe it. But yeah, I mean, you know, it's really
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extreme arrogance and presumption for humans of no there how
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smart they are to think they can figure out the
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mysteries of the universe and history and nature. And you know,
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it really is the human mind's ever going to be
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able to understand the might of God. Basically may be
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able to participate in the nature of God through Jesus Christ,
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but not to fully understand in an intellectual way. Never
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going to happen. But anyway, so the guy, do you
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believe the earth is tens of thousands of years older?
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The Bible story and the answer. Science has nothing very
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definite to say on that subject, and in any case,
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the age of the human race cannot be calculated from
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the Bible. I certainly believe the Bible account in its
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proper sense. As far as the account is concerned, man
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could have been on Earth one hundred thousand years. No
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one can say exactly how long, right on. You know,
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I know what it was like. At a certain Southern
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Baptist University of Virginia, some people were absolutely they thought
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they knew it. The Earth's no more than ten thousand
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years old, and we know that by the Bible, right
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And another Pentecostal university in Virginia. Boy, they gave people
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degrees in trying to figure out stuff like that. And
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that's not what the Bible's about. It's not meant for that.
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And men, I mean, you think a gender studies degree
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is worthless? How about one of those degrees where somebody's
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trying to figure out the age of the earth through
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the words of the Bible. You know, really, sometimes Christian
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colleges are as absurd as secular.
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Speaker 1: I and continues.
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Speaker 2: You have distinguished from body and soul of man, the
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soul being a spirit. Yet how can a man belong
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to the material and the spiritual world at once? They
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exclude each other, and they answer a material world, it
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cannot be a spiritual world, nor can a spiritual world
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be a material world. But the two can't exist simultaneously,
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even as one man's head. Even as in one man's
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head we have the material brains and spiritual thoughts. We
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cannot say that man's material brains so fill a man's
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head that they leave no room for thought. Even in
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purely physical things, you can have the material copper and
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the electrical force occupying the same wire. They are different
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in order of being. It's very the modernist materialists. I
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kind of get that argument, but it's kind of ridiculous actually. Anyway,
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the person finally, he says, is it revealed doctrine that
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the soul of man is immortal? And they ask for yes.
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Revelation confirms the conclusion of reason, which I have explained already.
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The account in Genesis of man's formation proves it. God
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is immortal and cannot die. He made man his own
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image and likeness. But our bodies are nothing like God
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in appearance and are immortal. Therefore, the real image of
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God is in our soul, and it resembles God by immortality.
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Both old and new Testament insists upon the immortality of
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the soul.
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Speaker 1: All right, now we will get back to Father Spirago.
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Speaker 2: And we are still talking about the Mass, because it
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is the most important thing in this world in which
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we participate. And a topic today is the obligation of
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hearing Mass, very much misunderstood these days. Every Catholic is bound,
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under pain of mortal sin, to hear the whole of
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one Mass about the every Sunday and Holy Day of obligation.
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Hard to do. Certainly, can't do it when we're sick.
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Should not do it when we're sick. When you're sick,
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do not go to Mass and get other people sick.
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That is really irresponsible and it's uncharitable. When you can't
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go to Mass. You are obligated to go to Mass
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on Sunday and every Holy Day of obligation. Everyone that
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calls themselves a Christian who does not attend a Catholic
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Mass is an absolute violation of the commandments of Christ. Therefore,
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no Protestant church service is valid. It cannot substitute for
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the Mass, because there's no Euchrist. Attending a Protestant church
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service does not satisfy one's obligation to go to Mass
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in which the Eucharist is offered. I don't care how
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devout someone is as a Protestant, I don't care if
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they go to church three times a week. They are
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disobeying God. Granted, They're probably doing it ignorantly, and God's
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not going to judge them for that, But well, his
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judgment will be different. Let's just put it that way.
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They will be held accountable for what they know and understand.
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But as a Catholic, do not ever think, do not
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ever think that attending a Protestant service, or watching a
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Protestant preacher on television, or anything like that can substitute
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for the Mass. There is no substitute for the Mass.
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So he says, those persons who could not go to
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church without great injury to themselves, who have some urgent
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work of mercy to perform, are excused from hearing mass.
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Those are dispensed from hearing mass who, by going to
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church would incur serious personal injury. Thus the sick who
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cannot go to church are excused. Likewise, those who helped
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it so delicate that they cannot go without at least
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the risk of falling ill. Been the case for me
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and my mother and several people we know since COVID hit.
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You know, we all got COVID and you get long
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COVID and keeps coming back, and it's like every Sunday
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it's like, am I well enough to go to Mass?
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Am I so weak that if I go to Mass,
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I'm going to catch something else? Am I sick enough?
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Am I running a fever? Could somebody else catch what
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I have? It's been tough since COVID. It's really tough
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for people who are on chemotherapy or who have other,
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you know, immunocompromise conditions. So and I really think people
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need to be more cognizant of that. I mean, I've
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seen so many people drag their very sick kids to MASS,
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teaching them you have to go to mass. Well, that's good,
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but next to them is going to be an immune
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compromise elderly person who's going to drop dead because they
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were so inconsiderate and put it that way as to
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expose that elderly person to their sick kid. Kids are
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going to have a lot cults. Kids are going to
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get the flu, and as part of developing an immune system,
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do not do not tank yourself for your sick kid.
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To mass because you may kill somebody. That's basically like
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involuntary manslaughter. And I see it every single Sunday, you know,
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some usually some other. Well, you know, we're going to
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Mass and you're getting out of bed. You're going right now.
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I don't care, you know, quit whineing. Go the mass
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is the most important thing, and it is. But do
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you do you not think that that person's not gound
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be actually held accountable for their should I call it arrogance,
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scrupulousness whatever, that could actually lead to the death of
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another person. I mean really, and I mean literally, I
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you know, okay to see unsinsory Catholic, I'm going to
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just let it fly here. I have bitten my tongue
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many times, and frankly the priest should really let them
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have it and say, you arrogant, self righteous person, you
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cannot come here sick or bring your sick kids here
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because you can, you're harming other people. I'm binding my tongue.
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I mean I really feel like really letting fly.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: I've seen this. I have been to Mass and gotten
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sick from people around me. I have seen my mother
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when she was on chemotherapy go to Mass and get
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sick from other people. We have this stupid obligation of
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shaking hands, which never should have been introduced. All that
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ridiculous hand sanitizer doesn't do a thing because you know,
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we're breathing each other's breath, sitting beside each other in
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the aisles. Anybody who coughs or sneeze is getting their
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germs all over you. And no face masks don't work.
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If you're sick, stay home.
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Speaker 1: I mean it is. It is a form of extreme.
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Speaker 2: Selfishness, self important, self righteousness to endanger another person's health
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because either you know you're so self important you can't
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miss the mass, or you're going to teach your kids
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a lesson. Get the hell over yourself. Okay, I'll move
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on now, all right. So others again, who live more
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than three miles from church or two greater distance, do
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not have to go to Mass in bad weather. This
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is written in eighteen eighties. I believe, of course, three
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miles was much greater distance than now. But again, I
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live in the mountains of North Carolina, and if I
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wake up on a Sunday morning, or if it's Saturday
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afternoon or a holiday, and we got snow and ice
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on the road, so I'm not going to Mass.
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Speaker 1: Again.
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Speaker 2: It's risking your life, and you have a duty to
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preserve your life through your body, which is a temple
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of the Holy Spirit. You also have a duty not
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to go out and slide on ice on slick roads
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and kill somebody else. Trust me, if you die and
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you arrive at the Holy Gates and your stupid, arrogant
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ass ran into somebody and killed them because you were
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so element to get in church, what do you think
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Saint Peter's going to say, to get the Holy Gates
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in charity? You should have stayed home.
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Speaker 1: Anyway.
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Speaker 2: I could really go on about this for a while,
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because I've seen some of the most irresponsible behavior, especially
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among those who hold themselves is higher than everybody else.
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The really a lot of women with large families who
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will drag their kids out of bed with the flu
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running high fevers and make them go to church. I
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have seen people driving on icy roads getting into accidents.
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I mean, my church is up on a hill. I mean,
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whether there's ice or snow on the road, you can't
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even get up there. They'll go, man, now, I mean
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they'll get that and they'll come sliding back down and
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hit another car. They don't give a nam about anybody.
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I mean, it is an act of Christian charity to
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consider the consequences your actions may have on another person.
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Speaker 1: Seriously.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when my mom was in chemotherapy,
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this was something we had to deal with all the time,
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all the time, dealing weighing out the obligation to attend
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Mass against the really inconsiderate, arrogant, self rightious, self important
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people who will go in there and cough right in
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your face. All right, So we talked about bad weather,
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he says. A king once observed that on astronomy December morning,
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the church was almost empty, whereas in the evening, though
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the snow was falling heavily, the theater is crowded. Yes,
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that's where you have to balance alas he exclaimed. The
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people are ready enough to make sacrifice for pleasure, but
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for God they will make none. Working people are also
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excused if they would lose their employment by leaving their
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work to hear mass. Or they may stay away occasionally
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if by going they have great agreements to put up
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with great disagreeableness.
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Speaker 1: That's hard to say, to.
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Speaker 2: Put up with from people they live with, though they
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should endeavor rather to bring them to a better mind.
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In other words. Okay, so growing up Protestant, you know
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it was drilled into me. You have to go to
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church every Sunday, and I wouldn't work on Sunday to
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lost a lot of jobs really in bad financial hardships.
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Catholic Church actually says, if your employer won't let you
28:51
have Sunday off, you don't have to go to Mass.
28:55
Not ideal, you should make every effort. But also if
29:00
a Catholic is married to a non Catholic or there's
29:02
something else and it's gonna destroy their marriage, their excuse
29:08
for going to Mass, but make every effort to convert
29:12
that person and bring them to Mass. I mean, in
29:16
so many ways more is expected from us as Catholics.
29:19
We have days of fasting and obligation, but it's also
29:24
so logical and reasonable. I mean, we really have no
29:27
excuse at the end. We can't just say well, I
29:30
fell away from the Catholic Church because you know whatever. No,
29:34
the Catholic Church makes every bends over backwards, says you
29:36
know what, if you can't make it, we understand you
29:40
really actually only have to attend Mass once a year
29:44
and confessional once a year, and I mean that's you know,
29:48
the minimum requirements. But if you intentionally miss Mass, if
29:54
you can go, if there's no reason you can't go,
29:57
that's a mortal sin because you said, for the sake
30:00
out the gathering yourselves together on Lord's Day.
30:03
Speaker 1: So there you have it.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, in some ways it's so much harder
30:09
to be Catholic and Protestant, But in other ways it's
30:11
so much easier because the Catholic Church is the only
30:14
church that has logic and reasonableness and isn't just you.
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Speaker 1: Know, artificial doctrines.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, he goes on. One member of a household may
30:26
remain home to keep the house. Those again are excused
30:29
from attennis at Mass. Eighteen eighties, a lot of times
30:33
the wife would have to stay home to cook and
30:35
the rest of the family would go to Mass. And
30:38
it's a legitimate duty. I mean, they were cooking or fire.
30:41
It wasn't you know, they didn't have arbies or McDonald's anyway,
30:48
Those again are excused from attennis at Mass. We have
30:50
to perform more of mercies, such as nursing the sick,
30:54
taking care of young children, preparing meals for other inmates
30:57
at the house, and it just means people who live
31:00
in the house. They're not talking prisoners hopefully, but yeah,
31:03
that you know, self righteous Catholic mother who drives her
31:09
flu ridden one hundred and twenty fever puking and coughing
31:14
kids to Mass and gets everybody in church sick, would
31:18
be much more pleasing to God if she stayed home
31:20
and cared for her child. Really, I'm not saying men
31:26
don't do it too, but you can probably picture the
31:30
woman in mind that I am referencing. You've all met
31:34
her one hundred times in a thousand different forms. We
31:38
have not heard a whole Mass unless we have been
31:41
present in church during the three principal parts of one
31:43
of the same mess. It is a requisite to be
31:46
present at the three principal parts of the Mass. If
31:49
one of these is omitted through negligence, the obligation is
31:53
not fulfilled again through negligence. If you can't do it,
31:55
you just can't do it. If, for instance, we do
31:58
not come in before the offeratory, or if we leave
32:00
before communion, as my priest told me, be there for
32:04
our Father, don't leave until after the Eucharist.
32:08
Speaker 1: I get there as soon as you can get there
32:11
early if you can, but at least come for that.
32:14
It does not.
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Speaker 2: Suffice to hear one mass from the consecration to the end,
32:17
and another from the commencement to the consecration. What Christ
32:20
has joined together, Let not the Christian put asunder Father's
32:24
barrogo is clever. He who comes in after the offer
32:29
tory must stay for the whole of another mass.
32:32
Speaker 1: Believe it or not.
32:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, And of course now we don't have many churches
32:35
that offer two masses in a row, so you just
32:38
kind of screwed up. Moreover, one must be present inside
32:41
the church. It will not suffice to sit or stand outside,
32:45
unless the church should be so overcrowded that it's impossible
32:48
to get inside.
32:50
Speaker 1: Of course, during.
32:51
Speaker 2: COVID a lot of us had to well, a lodd
32:57
churches allowed this. It was encouraged by the bishops not
33:01
to go into i guess, the sanctuary itself, but to
33:04
stand anywhere kind of on the periphery where you could
33:08
hear the mass and you could participate. And a lot
33:12
of us still do that when we have health issues.
33:15
But at this time, of course, they didn't have PA
33:17
systems and microphones and all that, so you really didn't
33:21
need to be inside to participate in Mass, and of
33:24
course the traditional Latin Mass, which is a bit different
33:27
than novasorto. So how potent is the prayer of the
33:31
assembly multitude?
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Speaker 1: For where two or three are gathered together in Christ's.
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Speaker 2: Name, there he is in the midst of them Matthew
33:38
eighteen twenty. Saint John the Almaner, patriarch Alexandria in the
33:43
seventh century, put a stop to the bad habit his
33:46
flockhead remaining outside during Mass time. In other words, they
33:52
just like gather around the church, not go in. I've
33:55
never seen that, honestly, but you know, I could, you know,
34:00
you know, maybe in big cities and you know up north,
34:03
I don't know, but we don't get that in the
34:04
South at least we actually do go inside. One Sunday,
34:08
instead of vesting for Mass, he went outside and sat
34:11
with the people outside of the church. Of their great astonishment,
34:14
he said, where the sheep are there? The shepherd must
34:16
be while you stay here, I will do the same.
34:19
If you go in, I will too. And after this rebuke,
34:23
no one was seen outside of the church at Mass time.
34:26
Those only can be said to hear the mass devoutly,
34:29
who banished from their mind all that may cause them distraction,
34:33
and who unite their petitions to those of the priests,
34:36
especially at the three principal parts of the Mass. Okay,
34:38
so how closely are you paying attention at Mass? It
34:47
can be difficult, especially I've got a lot on your mind.
34:49
Speaker 1: You got problems, you got troubles.
34:51
Speaker 2: I really have an issue with parents who let their
34:54
kids run up and down the aisles and play loudly
34:58
at or who the teenagers get on their phones and
35:01
texts and get on Facebook and Twitter and all that crap.
35:05
It's doing them no good to come to Mass. Do
35:08
you need the discipline of sitting there and paying attention?
35:12
And what does he say uniting their petitions to the priests. Otherwise,
35:19
what are you doing there? You actually be better off
35:23
sitting at home watching on television. Really, and you're not
35:26
fulfilling your obligation of going to Mass. Now, people say,
35:31
you know, if you don't have crying babies at church,
35:34
and you know, you're not really.
35:36
Speaker 1: A Catholic church.
35:36
Speaker 2: I agree, and nobody can fault an infant for crying.
35:40
But when parents just let their kids run wild, and
35:43
you've seen them I'm sure you have running up and
35:45
down the aisles, annoying people, throwing things at people, and
35:51
they're like, oh, we're Catholic, we know we love children.
35:53
You had to put up with it, or you have
35:55
a problem. No, you have a problem. You need to
35:58
discipline your children and teach them reverence or in the
36:01
presence of God. I mean, for Pete's sake. You wouldn't
36:04
let him act that way in a court and the
36:06
judges is a human being. Yeah, let him back that
36:09
way in church? No, but the phones. Get rid of
36:12
those funds. I'd say it over over, get rid of
36:15
those funds. It is permissible to assist at the holy
36:19
sacrifice of the Mass on Sundays and Holy Days in
36:21
any church, but it is desirable to go to one's
36:24
parish church. The Council of Trent admonishes the faithful to
36:29
be frequent in their attendance at the parish church, at
36:31
least on Sundays and the greater festivals. On those days,
36:35
the priest offers holy sacrifice for all his petitioners parishioners,
36:40
both living and dead, and adapts his servants to the
36:42
need of the flock. Furthermore, in the parish church. Notices
36:46
are given out of marriages, of fast days, of ecclesiastical
36:50
festivals and ordinances. The faithful ought to at least become
36:54
acquainted with their parish priests, who is their pastor and
36:57
spiritual father in the House of God. There is, however,
37:01
no law which makes it binding upon Catholics to hear
37:03
the mass of their parish church. In other words, you
37:05
can go to any Catholic church that you want, as
37:07
long as it's a valid Catholic church, but really should
37:12
try your best to be part of your parish. To
37:15
hear a Mass on weekdays, if possible, is a highly
37:18
commendable practice, for it may be the means of gaining
37:21
the greatest graces. If the Holy sacrifices were celebrated in
37:25
only one place in the world and offered only by
37:29
one priest with what longing would Christian people hasten to
37:32
that spot? But now there are many priests and.
37:35
Speaker 1: Christ is daily offered.
37:37
Speaker 2: Up in many places. How much is our lukewarmness and
37:41
negligence to be deplored which has thereby arisen. Some people
37:46
consider the half hour they have to take from work
37:49
to hear a mass is a loss of time, and
37:53
let me tell you, weekday masters really ought to be
37:55
a half hour because people do have to work. I
37:59
have never been in a parish where weekday where the
38:02
prese actually seem to understand that working people maybe maybe
38:07
get an hour off for lunch and would like to
38:09
go to mass and grab a bike to eat before
38:11
they go back to work. Usually it's a good forty
38:14
five minute long mass and driving time to and back
38:19
parking means that most of us can't get the mass
38:23
on a weekday. Also true of days of obligation the
38:27
fall on weekday. The priests just don't seem to understand.
38:31
But most people really don't even get an hour off
38:34
for lunch. It's more like thirty minutes. I mean, and
38:37
you got to eat. You can't eat before a mass.
38:40
So I mean you get off of maybe eleven thirty noon,
38:43
you can leave your work.
38:45
Speaker 1: What are you supposed to do?
38:46
Speaker 2: Drive one hundred miles an hour to mass, park, run
38:49
in your entire lunch break's taken, and then drive back,
38:54
get late for work and be fired. I mean, come on,
38:58
priests need to be a little more accommodating of that.
39:00
But you know, let's be honest, most priests have never
39:03
had a job outside of the church. They went straight
39:07
from their parents' homes to school to the priesthood. They
39:10
don't understand. In the eighteen eighties, at least, Father Spirago
39:15
said that a weekday mass should be thirty minutes. Thirty minutes,
39:21
I mean granted, and that even if you only get
39:25
thirty minutes for lunch, that's difficult.
39:27
Speaker 1: You can't even do it.
39:28
Speaker 2: But for people who get an hour lunch, they could
39:32
at least take advantage of it. And you know, why
39:35
can't you also do a six pm Mass on a weekday.
39:39
Let's somebody get off of work five point thirty, you know,
39:44
give the average person a chance just to go to mass.
39:47
I mean, you know, I've known a lot of priests.
39:51
They weren't exactly doing a lot around six o'clock on
39:54
a weekday unless it was an evening mass. So I
39:59
think you could all for especially even if you can't
40:02
offer more masses, have about more time for confessional I mean,
40:05
you've got a church of like three thousand parishioners and
40:08
you have confession for thirty months on a Saturday, nobody's
40:11
going to confession that needs to go. You know, it's ridiculous.
40:15
I mean it goes both ways. We as the parishioners,
40:19
as the faithful, we have to do our part. But
40:21
you know, the priests really, I know they work hard,
40:25
and I know they have to be there for every
40:27
sick call and somebody's dying and all that. But more
40:30
confession times and more weekday mass times that aren't like
40:35
at six am or seven am. I mean, they'll deal
40:38
with Mass at seven thirty and the kids are supposed
40:40
to be dead in school by eight. It's crazy. You
40:44
can't do that Mass at seven thirty. You don't get
40:47
out of there until eight eight fifteen, and the kids
40:49
are late if they're not at school by eight thirty
40:51
and they haven't had breakfast.
40:54
Speaker 1: I mean, how about times that people.
40:57
Speaker 2: Can actually go to mass? A lot of times this
41:00
is going to be in the evening, and you know,
41:04
father so and so, maybe you ought to stay at
41:08
church after five o'clock. After all, you're not, you know,
41:11
punching a clock like the.
41:12
Speaker 1: Rest of us.
41:14
Speaker 2: Just my two cents anyway, Um, So we said, some
41:20
people consider the half hour they take from their time
41:22
to work to hear a mass a loss of time.
41:26
This is, however, not so before they do their work
41:28
better and more quickly through having been a mass? Has
41:31
not our Lord said, seek ye first the Kingdom of
41:33
God and his justice, and all things should be added
41:36
unto you Matthew six point thirty three, If says coach him,
41:40
a shower of gold fell from the clouds, thou would
41:42
surely leave thy work and hasten the street to gather
41:46
up the coins. Only a fool would stop indoors, and
41:49
thou art a fool if thou dost, through indifferent sort negligence,
41:53
submit to hear a mass. When a stream of heavenly
41:56
treasures is poured out from on high through a neglecting
42:00
only mass, one loses far more than one would gain
42:02
by a whole week's work.
42:04
Speaker 1: Arrange that business.
42:05
Speaker 2: Therefore, if thou canst so, if as to allow the
42:09
hearing of mass daily, and if only that was possible
42:14
for ninety percent of us, I'll say that is not possible.
42:19
Daily mass is basically for the retirees. And maybe the
42:24
priests and bishops want to think about that. Maybe they
42:27
should offer, Hey, how about two masses on a weekday?
42:32
You ever had been a mass on a Monday? I
42:35
mean you know church office is usually closed on a Monday.
42:40
Good luck, good luck, And if it's impossible for THEE
42:46
to go thyself, give alms to some poor person to
42:49
hear mass for thee.
42:50
Speaker 1: It's a good idea.
42:52
Speaker 2: Give somebody a few dollars to go hear a mass
42:54
for you. Have you ever done that? I haven't be
42:57
a good thing to do. Unfortunately, I've never encountered a
43:02
Catholic homeless person. Well, anyway, interesting concept, let's just put
43:11
it that way. Eighteen nineties Czechoslovakia, that wouldn't have been
43:15
an issue.
43:15
Speaker 1: That's when Father Spirago was writing.
43:19
Speaker 2: But you know what you can do. You can ask
43:21
your guardian angel to get a mass for you. Absolutely,
43:25
that's one of your guardian angels shops. For as is
43:29
the case with every good work, we may apply to
43:31
others the merits of hearing mass without being losers ourself.
43:35
For the Priest and the can of the Mass supposes
43:37
that those who are present with him offer up the
43:41
holy sacrifice. Who offer up the sacrifice holy sacrifice, do
43:45
so for their families and friends as well as for themselves.
43:48
Do not allow human respect to keep you from serving Christ.
43:51
For if you are ashamed of Him, he would be
43:53
ashamed of you. Luke nine six, when King Lewis of
43:58
France was told that the people talked about his habit
44:00
of hearing one or even more than one mass daily,
44:04
he replied, how careful people are about my time? If
44:07
I spent twice as long at play or out hunting,
44:11
they would have not a word to say about it.
44:13
And that was when the kings of France. Yes, my
44:15
ancestors were quite devout Catholics and very very great men.
44:22
The Blessed Thomas Moore, another ancestor, another relative of mine,
44:26
one of my favorite saints, was accustomed to say, in
44:30
connection with hearing the Mass daily, that he esteemed it
44:33
his greatest honor to render that mark of respect to
44:36
the king of kings. Now I shoulscribed to qualify I say
44:40
one of my relatives. It seems like he was like
44:44
a distant cousin what twenty generations back. Don't ask me
44:50
to prove that I don't have the genealogy, but if
44:54
I'm not mistaken, it was either More or Merton, one
44:59
of those great that is somewhere like really distantly related.
45:03
Certainly not a grandfather or an uncle even, But anyway,
45:10
Saint Thomas Moore, Saint Thomas Mertin pray for us. Absolutely, y'all.
45:15
Let's wrap it up there. While going to Mass is
45:19
the very best thing we can do in this life,
45:23
we should also be very, very conscientious of the people
45:28
we are interacting with. We have no right to put
45:33
another person in danger. God doesn't ask us to do that.
45:38
He only asks us to do our best. And in
45:42
some cases, yes, I think the church, the priests should
45:45
do more. They should do their best to offer more
45:49
masses that regular working people can attend, and parents and
45:53
all that. But remember icy roads, snowstorms, sickness, stay your
46:01
butt at Hume. If you have to watch EWTN, watch EWTN.
46:09
You know, I'm really some programs on EWTN, especially like
46:14
you know, twenty years ago, I really enjoyed like a
46:16
father grocer and mother angelic and all that. But you know,
46:21
a lot of times it is dry as dust. It
46:24
is just almost impossible to watch without falling asleep.
46:28
Speaker 1: And I remember one time I did miss.
46:31
Speaker 2: Mass and I'm sick, and I'm probably a little bit
46:36
of food poisoning because I remember feeling better in the
46:38
afternoon and I went at the.
46:39
Speaker 3: Grocery store and when you know, I walked down the
46:42
wine aisle and there's my priest and he's like, I
46:46
didn't see it mass today and I said, yeah, I
46:51
was really sick.
46:51
Speaker 1: I couldn't make it.
46:53
Speaker 2: And I said, but I did watch Mass on EWTN
46:58
and he said it looks at me.
46:59
Speaker 1: He says, my son, you have done penance enough.
47:02
Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm not the only one that can
47:06
really find e WT in like, you know, more buoyant,
47:09
boring than watching paint dry. But occasionally it is quite good.
47:13
It's just like those awful G. K. Chesterton re enactments.
47:17
There's like dramatic reenactments where somebody dresses up like GK.
47:20
Chesterton and goes like this monologue of like reading from
47:24
his work. That's never been good. I mean, I'm sorry
47:29
if you've got a degree in theater and you think
47:31
that's like, you know, nobody likes that. Nobody wants to
47:36
hear that. No, you're not spreading anything except distaste for
47:44
what's being presented. Nobody likes it when someone acts like
47:48
their Mark Twain and puts on the white suit and
47:51
everything and talks like he's reading from Tom Sawya.
47:55
Speaker 1: I don't know.
47:55
Speaker 2: That's more in New England than Southern and I'm Southern myself.
47:58
I should know better, but no, I mean those awful GK.
48:01
Chesterton presentations. Oh or when like Scott han and Jeff
48:06
Caven's get on any whisper and I read in the
48:10
book A Maccabees and isn't that amazing? And You're like, well,
48:16
it could be if I could hear you, dude. I mean,
48:18
come on, I got some issues with EWTN, and I've
48:23
been actually one of those like really devout Catholic women
48:27
on Twitter like basically cuss me out because I even
48:30
criticize EWTN. You know, I think Mother Angelica will slap
48:35
some of those people upside their head. But you know
48:37
that's just my opinion. Anyway, code a Mass if you can.
48:47
If you can't, don't, But if you can, make every
48:51
effort to go to Mass and do talk to your
48:54
priests and see if you can get some I mean,
48:56
if you've got this issue like I have where I mean,
48:59
you know, I haven't been home a lot because of
49:01
the hurricane damage.
49:04
Speaker 1: In my little parish.
49:05
Speaker 2: We have confession like three days a week, no problem.
49:10
Speaker 1: You know you can get in there.
49:11
Speaker 2: But most of the winter I stayed down in Pinehurst.
49:15
And you're talking literally one of the biggest Catholic churches
49:18
in North Carolina, three five thousand families, and they've got
49:22
confession for like forty five minutes on Saturday. And it's
49:29
not like the priest is handling multiple parishes. They're actually
49:33
a couple of priests, you know, and any mess on
49:37
a Holy Day of Obligation is going to be like
49:39
an eight.
49:39
Speaker 1: In the morning. I mean, it's just ridiculous.
49:44
Speaker 2: It's like these people have no concept of what normal
49:47
life is for normal people, and it's not good.
49:51
Speaker 1: It's not good at all.
49:52
Speaker 2: Actually, it's still a church for a retired population when
49:58
now probably seventy five percent of the population is young
50:01
families and working people because a lot of military stuff's happened,
50:05
a lot of people moved in, and they're just like,
50:08
you know, we're still like a resort, retirement weekend kind
50:12
of church now. But but again, I mean I do
50:16
know the priest it's like constantly going to the hospital,
50:19
and I mean the older population, he does have to
50:22
deal with a lot of people passing away. Really just
50:25
need one priest to be dedicated to offering weekday masses and.
50:31
Speaker 1: Confession, because yeah, I mean, you.
50:35
Speaker 2: Get a confession like an hour early reconciliation what you're
50:38
gonna call it. It's like three thirty on a Saturday, right,
50:41
and masses at four thirty, so presumably you've got it
50:45
like a whole hour. But he does always get their
50:46
own time, and he leaves like fifteen minutes early, so
50:49
it's you know, not an hour and get you go
50:53
an hour early. And they're like thirty people already in
50:55
line for one priest in a church with like five
50:59
thousand families.
51:01
Speaker 1: That's not.
51:03
Speaker 2: I mean, look, the collection there on any given Sunday
51:08
is probably twenty to thirty thousand dollars and it up.
51:14
This is one of the wealthiest places in the entire state.
51:17
We got two sometimes three priests and a deacon. I
51:24
don't see the excuse, honestly, I don't see the excuse.
51:27
So why we can't have one extra day a week
51:30
of confession?
51:33
Speaker 1: Why not?
51:35
Speaker 2: I mean, what is the priest doing at six o'clock
51:38
in the evening on you know, Thursday. He's not playing golf?
51:44
I mean, sorry, he's out playing golf. Sometimes maybe not okay,
51:50
maybe somebody's dying and he's had to rush to their
51:52
hospital bed. But somebody could offer the sacraments to those
51:56
who need them, you know, on not just an individual basis,
52:02
because yeah, you can always call. I mean, just like
52:04
you know, if you're sick or dying, he'll come out.
52:07
Or if you need to make a special confession, you
52:09
can make an appointment.
52:11
Speaker 1: You know.
52:12
Speaker 2: Certainly, not a lack of caring. It's just a lack
52:15
of understanding the needs of regular people. But anyway, just
52:20
my opinion, take it for what it is, grain assault.
52:22
I'm not even a member of that parish. It's just
52:24
where I've had to spend the winter. Things are very
52:26
different at home up in Limville and Boon and all
52:30
that good. Much younger priests that seem to be much more.
52:40
Speaker 1: Motivated.
52:41
Speaker 2: Maybe that's it, you know, maybe when a priests as
52:44
a certain age, you just wants to sit in Lutch
52:47
television or something. I don't know, not my place. Maybe
52:50
he's doing great things. Maybe he's praying a lot and reading,
52:53
you know, great spiritual books. Maybe he's writing a great
52:56
spiritual book. I'm not here a judge, but do you know,
53:00
check the fruit on the vine, as they say. Anyway,
53:05
y'all have a great week and I'll talk to you
53:08
next time. M