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Ellie Kemper Disobeys Bridger · I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar

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  Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I've thought I made myself
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  Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you
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  Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests,
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  Speaker 1: your own presences, presents, And I already had too much stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gift temperature winneger. We're here.
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  Speaker 3: This is the three hundredth episode we've done. We've managed
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  Speaker 3: to I've managed to do three hundred of anything. This
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  Speaker 3: is the only thing I've ever done three hundred of
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  Speaker 3: other than like take a shower. So we're here. I unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe that we've managed to make it this far.
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  Speaker 3: The fact we've found that many people that I can
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  Speaker 3: tolerate is a whole other story. And how we're going
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  Speaker 3: to fight even more is it's going to be an
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  Speaker 3: uphill battle. It's going to be a struggle, but we're
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  Speaker 3: going to keep fighting through. We're going to look under
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  Speaker 3: every stone and we will find some people I can
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  Speaker 3: deal with. Ah, what's going on now? It's been I
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  Speaker 3: think that's kind of the big news. Here's something I
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  Speaker 3: need to talk about. No more documentaries about rock climbers,
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  Speaker 3: I am looking for things on TV, and every other
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  Speaker 3: thing is now a documentary about somebody climbing a rock
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  Speaker 3: in Yosemite. Enough, we had the one. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: why we need more. They're in danger and they have
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  Speaker 3: a different type of personality. That's how they all are.
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  Speaker 3: And I like to rock climb. I've given up the hobby.
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  Speaker 3: But and I'm sure they're all perfectly nice people. But
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  Speaker 3: let's find some other extreme sport to get into. What
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  Speaker 3: would that be? Water skiing? Waterskiing? Doc water skiers reach out,
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  Speaker 3: Let's see is there anything else? Let's say if I
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  Speaker 3: have any business, I mean, Patreon continues to exist, Patreon
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  Speaker 3: dot com, slash, I said, no gifts, having the time
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  Speaker 3: of our lives. We're chatting, we're creating new episodes. I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking about the secret lives of Mormon Wives. I'm talking
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  Speaker 3: about the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Just generally
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  Speaker 3: posting things as you do, just realizing I haven't. I've
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  Speaker 3: done three hundred episodes of this and have not received
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  Speaker 3: a cent from the brazil Nut Commission. And I've really
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  Speaker 3: given brazil not the not a platform here, and I've
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  Speaker 3: been very good to brazil nuts and still haven't. I
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  Speaker 3: haven't reached out, so that's a problem I should recommend.
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  Speaker 3: I should advertise found coffee. I haven't done that in
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  Speaker 3: a while. That's an Eagle Rock, California. They do not
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  Speaker 3: pay me occasionally. They gave me a free coffee, probably
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  Speaker 3: not enough, to be honest, but it's a wonderful coffee shop.
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  Speaker 3: And there was an annoying father there today who stood
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  Speaker 3: in front of both the doors while I was trying
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  Speaker 3: to get out, and I would have opened the door
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  Speaker 3: for him, but he had to do it on his own.
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  Speaker 3: We have so much to celebrate in this day and age. Hmm, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: three hundredth episodes, so we should have us. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: you need to have a great guest for a three
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  Speaker 3: hundredth episode. And here's somebody who I've wanted to have
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  Speaker 3: on the podcast for such a long time. I absolutely
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  Speaker 3: adore her. It's Ellie Kemper. Ellie. Welcome to I said,
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  Speaker 3: no gift.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh what a relief to have you here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, the relief feeling is mutual and I
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  Speaker 2: am so happy to be here. Thank you for having
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  Speaker 2: me on. Happy three hundred.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Can you imagine. No, I can't
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  Speaker 3: three hundred.
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  Speaker 2: I said on my before this started. I can't imagine
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  Speaker 2: pulling this off. I am beyond impressed. It's a testament
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  Speaker 2: to how much people love you. Oh well done.
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  Speaker 3: But it's something, it's something that we've done it, and
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  Speaker 3: I just keep driving on the freeway and sitting here
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  Speaker 3: for an hour and a half and as long as
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  Speaker 3: they let me do that.
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  Speaker 2: You have some magic sauce. So congrats. It's wonderful. I'm
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  Speaker 2: happy to be here to celebrate, and I'm happy to
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  Speaker 2: be talking to you. You're so easy to talk to you.
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  Speaker 3: Likewise, it's been a long time since I've seen you.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably been almost ten years.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if it's been ten years.
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  Speaker 3: I think the last time I saw you was at
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  Speaker 3: Kimmy Schmidt, to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: But that it's twenty twenty six was that twenty sixteen?
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  Speaker 2: It may have been ten years.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I'm very aware it was twenty sixteen. Well, it
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  Speaker 3: was twenty seventeen, because when I was working at Kimmy
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  Speaker 3: I remember a specifically horrible day in twenty sixteen riding
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  Speaker 3: the subway to work. Oh sobbing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, But work related.
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  Speaker 3: No twenty sixteen election.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you say no more twenty sixteen. You looked at
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  Speaker 2: me like twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Sixteen, this is where we find out something just absolutely
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  Speaker 3: horrible about your voting record.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, what's a big deal? That was, like,
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  Speaker 2: you mean the day we had cake, lots of cake
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  Speaker 2: to celebrate. I remember I texted the line no to
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  Speaker 2: the first ad and I was like, what happened because
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  Speaker 2: we were so I just what a memory Elie texting
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  Speaker 2: the first agent, the assistant director. But that was that
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  Speaker 2: was sad.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's like the one day of work ever
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  Speaker 3: in any environment that I've cried at work. And it
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  Speaker 3: was just what, this is what? How are we starting
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  Speaker 3: the three hundred episode of this podcast. This is what
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  Speaker 3: we're starting.
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  Speaker 2: We're reminiscing about. No, that's right, because so did you cry?
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  Speaker 2: That would have been November twenty November twenty sixteen, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then and then but were you there until twenty seventeen?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that season started and I think like the summer
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  Speaker 3: of twenty sixteen and went to like yes, March of
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  Speaker 3: twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: So we saw the full cycle. We saw him be Yeah, we.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of got dragged through that whole thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was nice though, to be with one another
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  Speaker 2: with like minded people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could be working on a thing that was
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  Speaker 3: inherently joyful. That's exactly I mean. I think that day
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  Speaker 3: was probably just tough for everybody. But but yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: been a long time since I've seen you. I think
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  Speaker 3: probably the last last well, I bet it was like
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  Speaker 3: at a table read or something. But I feel like
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  Speaker 3: we we shot that thing when I I think we
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  Speaker 3: were on Staten Island out like a campground or something. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know if you were there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I was there.
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  Speaker 3: I think you were just on set.
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  Speaker 2: I just came to hang out. I love it. Even
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  Speaker 2: when I'm not called to set, I always come. I
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  Speaker 2: just hang out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's been a long time.
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  Speaker 2: It's been really lying you.
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  Speaker 3: And you look you still look like you're seventeen years old.
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  Speaker 2: That could not be a nicer compliment I have. I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting my hair colored tomorrow and so I did the
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  Speaker 2: head to do root spray today.
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  Speaker 3: I've never heard of root spray.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you don't seem to have gray hair.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's going to be flying in series.
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  Speaker 2: I'm again so many things about you impressed me three
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  Speaker 2: hundred episodes. Not a gray hair on your head, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it. If it hasn't happened by now,
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  Speaker 2: it probably won't happen. Root spray is just an aerosol
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  Speaker 2: spray of like red.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I'd like to get into this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh it's great. It's loreal is what I use. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: And but the thing is like, you can't really spray
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  Speaker 2: the front of your hair because it ends up getting.
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  Speaker 3: On your skin, on your forehead or whatever, and then.
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  Speaker 2: It's stripping and it's crazy, right, so this so thank
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  Speaker 2: you for saying that. But I do feel like I
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  Speaker 2: have a little bit of them. What do they call it?
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  Speaker 2: Like a skunk.
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  Speaker 3: There's no skunk happening hair, no stir. If you're not
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  Speaker 3: watching the video, there's no skunk happening.
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  Speaker 2: There's no skunk, skunk, no skunk Tuesday. Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: saying that. I don't I don't agree, but you look
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  Speaker 2: you're fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: I'll also say we talked about this before. It's always
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  Speaker 3: nice to have somebody of your exact complexion.
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  Speaker 2: I could not be happy. First of all, we just
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  Speaker 2: took a photo together. We both look incredible.
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  Speaker 3: We look gorgeous, and.
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  Speaker 2: It's because no one is like I think, what would
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  Speaker 2: it be. I don't want to put words in your mouth.
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  Speaker 2: I am pasty sometimes so I feel like and you're not.
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  Speaker 2: But when we're next to each other, we both look
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  Speaker 2: what well.
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  Speaker 3: I actually want to back up a little bit and say,
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  Speaker 3: I said, we have exact complexions. You look deeply tanned
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  Speaker 3: compared to me, So I apologize for even bringing I mean,
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  Speaker 3: even trying to compare. You look like you've like at
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  Speaker 3: least like passed through the sun during a day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, that sun is going to
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  Speaker 2: come back. That's gonna come back to bite me in
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  Speaker 2: a big way.
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  Speaker 3: If it hasn't yet.
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  Speaker 2: If it hasn't yet, you know, so no that that's
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  Speaker 2: thanks for saying.
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  Speaker 3: Did you go through a period like as a teen
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  Speaker 3: that you wanted to be really tan?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? I okay. So I grew up in Saint Louis
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  Speaker 2: and I remember the early spring and seeing the sun
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  Speaker 2: and I would go out in tan and like it
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  Speaker 2: would be like fifty degrees in March and I would
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  Speaker 2: go out and swimsuit. Why did my parents stop me?
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  Speaker 2: That's so dangerous?
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, did you have yeah, of course, because it
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  Speaker 3: was like the late nineties early thousands when it was
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  Speaker 3: like every people wanted being tan was the thing to do.
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  Speaker 3: Like there was no like talk about protecting your skins
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  Speaker 3: unless it was your mom, like at swim.
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  Speaker 2: Lessons, and that even then, my mom.
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  Speaker 3: Actually at swim lessons would fight us to get sunscreen
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  Speaker 3: on us at least like my ears and my neck. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: but obviously that wasn't when I was a teen, So that, right,
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  Speaker 3: what if my mom was taking me to swim lessons
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  Speaker 3: at like seventeen and trying to get sunscreen on.
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  Speaker 2: I am worried I'm on that path. No, no, no, I
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  Speaker 2: mean with the sun protection maybe yes, because that's only
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  Speaker 2: been proven to be a good thing, right, right, but
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  Speaker 2: in like all areas. But but I don't my mom
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  Speaker 2: certainly put sunscreen on me. I don't want to like mischaracter. Well,
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  Speaker 2: she protected my skin. But it is wild that like
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  Speaker 2: we all, I'm forty six, you don't have to reveal
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  Speaker 2: your age. But it was wild that we all were
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  Speaker 2: just like, no, but being tan is good and you.
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  Speaker 3: Should be or you will be expelled.
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  Speaker 2: From society, right It's wild.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And the amount of sunburns that I went through,
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  Speaker 3: and there was just never a lesson learned for me.
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  Speaker 2: Did you ever peel?
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  Speaker 3: Of course, like truly, like there was nothing worse than peeling,
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  Speaker 3: like I would. I would rather be glowing the dark
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  Speaker 3: than peel at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that I don't know how many. I think
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  Speaker 2: I probably had like four peels all on my shoulders.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course, shoulders a death sentence. It's horrible,
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  Speaker 2: Or don't it's crazy to.
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  Speaker 3: Think that you went through something that your body was
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  Speaker 3: just like that, falling apart.
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  Speaker 2: Like your your skin boiled like boiled, it came up
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  Speaker 2: in little bubbles and then peeled off you.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I uh. When I was maybe twenty or something,
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  Speaker 3: I went on vacation to Venezuela with a friend and
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  Speaker 3: became so deeply sunburned that I was hospitalized, and then
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  Speaker 3: came back and was working at a horrible bakery cafe
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  Speaker 3: which I won't name right now. I want to know
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  Speaker 3: they did accuse me of burglarizing. No, this wasn't sulake.
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  Speaker 3: They accused me of burglarizing it later, But I was
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  Speaker 3: peeling while working at this place. Why didn't they send
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  Speaker 3: me home?
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  Speaker 2: Why didn't wait hold on the burglary and the peeling
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  Speaker 2: are too seperate.
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  Speaker 3: Separate crimes. One of them I'm guilty of. I was
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  Speaker 3: peeling at work.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you were feeling at work. You were dripping or
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  Speaker 2: like crusting flakes into the I hope.
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  Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I hope hopefully I wasn't prepping food
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  Speaker 3: that day. But I'm sure, like because I went back
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  Speaker 3: to work almost immediately after this sunburn, I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: thinking back about it now, I'm like, send that person home.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, that is I mean, on the one hand, I
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  Speaker 2: guess I don't know what's the right thing to do
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  Speaker 2: protect the products, but also you were sick. But also
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry that you were hospitalized. That's really imagined, but.
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  Speaker 3: It was kind of exciting. Venezuela. You're experiencing socialized medicine.
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  Speaker 3: Your nurse has a leather jacket on. Those are not
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  Speaker 3: related things. It's just I think she wanted to be
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  Speaker 3: cool at work or something. But they got an IVY
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  Speaker 3: in me and took care of me.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know what the event was like in Venezuela.
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  Speaker 3: Were you what were you doing just on vacation? Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 3: I went to the beach for I think six to
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  Speaker 3: seven hours with no sunscreen whatsoever. I'll do it and
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  Speaker 3: fell asleep and then was just as sunburned as a
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  Speaker 3: human being can be. And so that that happened. The
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  Speaker 3: next day we went to like a little like village
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  Speaker 3: in the mountains, and I was so so sun I thought, well,
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  Speaker 3: let's put on some sort of lotion. Let's go to
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  Speaker 3: a pharmacy and get a lotion. Right, big mistake. Right
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  Speaker 3: as soon as the lotion touched my body, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I have to take my clothes like it felt like
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  Speaker 3: I was coming out of my skin. There was some
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  Speaker 3: sort of reaction or something to the point that I
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  Speaker 3: was undressing in public.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is a night This is something you
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  Speaker 2: have a nightmare about.
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  Speaker 3: It absolutely horrible.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry. Was it supposed to be like an aloe? Like
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  Speaker 2: a box?
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  Speaker 3: So I don't speak Spanish, my friend does. So maybe
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  Speaker 3: maybe the blame actually lays with him. He could he
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  Speaker 3: should have been gotten a better maybe just a lower something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. On the other hand, I want to say this,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes when you put like a I don't I think
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  Speaker 2: it could have like a not a byproduct, but a
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  Speaker 2: side effect may have just been that it was irritating
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  Speaker 2: your skin wall I.
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  Speaker 3: Think that must be it, right, because it like, I
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  Speaker 3: think I was just so severely sunburn that no matter
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  Speaker 3: what you put on there.
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  Speaker 2: It could have been water.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. That's worse than just shoulders.
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  Speaker 3: But they took care of me, and then I went
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  Speaker 3: and peeled at work. They kept me on the schedule
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  Speaker 3: until then I thought that I had burglarized, and then
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  Speaker 3: that was the.
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  Speaker 2: Was it like again, was it money that you took
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  Speaker 2: or that you were cute?
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  Speaker 3: Actually, let's let's just I'm actually they accused me. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just gonna own it and say I did do it
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  Speaker 3: because I'm I don't work there anymore. I may not
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  Speaker 3: have done it, but why don't I just own that
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  Speaker 3: at this point? Why didn't I say I did burglar
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  Speaker 3: I'm a bad boy?
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  Speaker 2: You are They're two words. I saw your n even box,
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  Speaker 2: I thought, hold on, you're being so cagy.
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  Speaker 3: What I been?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 3: What was burglarized? Was I actually don't know money? Money
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  Speaker 3: was stolen? Apparently, because you know, I ended up in
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  Speaker 3: a police interrogation room of this.
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  Speaker 2: You know you're making a joke.
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  Speaker 3: This is real.
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  Speaker 2: Have you told this before?
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  Speaker 3: I've talked about it on this podcast. But then I've
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  Speaker 3: never hinted at the fact that I did it. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: But now that i've are we worried about legal things
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  Speaker 2: because you do not.
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  Speaker 3: Need to know. No, they're no legal because I didn't
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  Speaker 3: do it. Take me to court, prove to me.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me what you saw, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: But money because I was like the night shift manager
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  Speaker 3: and I had returned to work after a period of
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  Speaker 3: not working there, and then I think shortly after they
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  Speaker 3: got burglarized.
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  Speaker 2: I got it. I'm sorry that they were.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I know who it was. This guy
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  Speaker 3: Alex certainly did it. He was he had a bad attitude,
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  Speaker 3: first of all, and second of all, I have to
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  Speaker 3: blame somebody you got.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, if it's not you, who could it
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  Speaker 2: have been. It was definitely not randomly. You think it
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  Speaker 2: was targeted?
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  Speaker 3: I think so it was an inside job for because
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  Speaker 3: you know the money would get slid under the manager's
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  Speaker 3: door at the end of the night.
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  Speaker 2: Why what this is what I want to know that
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  Speaker 2: I don't know any of these things slid. You couldn't
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  Speaker 2: knock and hand it.
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  Speaker 3: To that You wasn't there because I was the manager, right,
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  Speaker 3: But you weren't allowed it to the manager. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: this is where if there were some problems with the business,
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  Speaker 3: why was I not trusted to go into the little office. No,
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  Speaker 3: had I been trusted, I would have gone in there
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  Speaker 3: and put it in a secure lokation. But you would slight.
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  Speaker 3: You would put it the money, the cash in a
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  Speaker 3: pastry bag. Oh, and slip it under the door. So
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: if somebody had like a wire hanger fish right, that's
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: exactly again. Now I'm like, well, of course I did it.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: It sounds so specific and thought.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Out side the back doors.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: And then anyone could have done it. I don't know
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: why it was so hot.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: That's that happened. And then they I think they kind
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: of for a while still thought that I had done it,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: and then slowly removed me from the schedule.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I was accused. No, I wasn't. I think
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: our improv team was accused of stealing money once.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Oh is this not a heist movie?
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I know that feels like something. It
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: has to be something, and I don't know. It was
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: a misunderstanding. It's not nearly as dramatic as that. It
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: was just some money was missing from a box and
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: it was a similar thing. I guess there was no
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: safe I don't know the details. I was not the
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: person who on the team who was like brought who
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: was made aware of the accusation. Somebody else was and
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: then told us all, so and so thinks that we
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: stole this money.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: And how did you prove you hadn't?
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. We like improved our way out
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: of it. We were like being bang. But yeah, it's
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: it hurts to be accused of something you didn't do.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's deeply painful. Yeah, but if you had done it,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: how would you have done it?
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Easy? I told you, is in a box.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: This is a thing where if you're a business, let's
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: invest in something to put the money.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: And you know, we were talking about this earlier. I
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: feel like it was a different time. Yeah, you could
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: just put your money in a box and you just
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: thought and you knew people. I don't know, you just
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: it's not that you trusted people, but people wouldn't. It
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have occurred to occur to be able to steal it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: That's made up, of course people in stealing since.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course it's one of the original crimes, stealing cash.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Yes, was there anyone on the team
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: you suspect it might have done it? You don't have
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: to name them. Oh wow, there is.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: And now we are really going back because that was
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: a long time ago.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I hope, I hope it was worth it to that.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I hope it was. You know, it's like you have
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: to wonder if you needed money. By the way, I
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: believe that the accusation was dropped, so he must have
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: recovered his money. But I if I had a guess,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I know who would have.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Somebody showed up in a new shirt the next day?
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: You connect the toss?
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: My friends, how much money are we talking about here?
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: It was like after an improv.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Show, exactly sixty five dollars I mean, right, yeah, yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Interesting if it weren't well it's true. Wow, yeah, that's
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: an interesting Have you ever stolen anything?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it seems to.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Be like that seems to be a central tenet of
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: this podcast is to me asking people if they've stolen
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: something and then encouraging people to steal. Steal.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Well, there is. I was just listening to something about
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the ethics of stealing, and I don't know where I
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: land on that, but I do you know, what. I
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: don't know that I've I'm not. I wish this were
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: more interesting. I don't think have I ever stolen something?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think I have good for you. I had
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: to think long and hard about that. I've certainly never shoplifted, Okay,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: and I want that on record because I haven't.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: That's what separates you. Yeah, I'm a heavy or was
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: a heavy shoplift you?
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Did you have a problem with it?
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: No, no problem. My only problem was I wasn't shoplifting enough. No,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I would shoplift from not It was an interesting There's
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: like a chain of thrift source through Utah that called
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Deseret Industries, and I would shoplift from those. There was
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: an hour of each day at high school that you
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: were supposed to go to something called seminary where you
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: would learn about the Mormon Church. And instead of doing that,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I would drive to Deseret Industries with friends and just
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: take what I wanted. Well, I would go in the
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: dressing room, put it on, and leave.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I don't I didn't know this. Yeah, it's so, but
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: there this before security cameras.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: No, this was certainly they had security cameras. I think
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: they just had very lack of security there, and it was.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: It's kind of a justifiable crime where you're like, well,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: they got this for free, right, they're charging way too much.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: This T shirt should not be three dollars. And then
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: your families don't, you know, like we're constantly donating more
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: to the place. So my mind it was a victimless crum.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: It does feel I have to say, I'm not. It's
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: more like again, it's like an ethical question, but I do.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: But I also like just the principle of it. But
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: if we like break it down, who is being hurt?
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Right, absolutely nobody.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Would you have gone to a change like a retail store.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: I think that's scarier because they care more.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Oh so not about whether it's right or wrong.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Who cares if it's right or wrong?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: We're we're post right, right, we are way past that.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: No.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I For me, it was it didn't feel wrong at all. Yeah,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: it for whatever reason, a thrift store one for the
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: thrift store one. It didn't feel wrong. It felt exciting. Yeah,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and it felt like, well, I'll probably end up donating
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: this back at some point.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: You got it, and your friends were This was with friends.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Friends were doing it. Every high schooler was doing it. Well,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: maybe not every high school or yeah, I shouldn't.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Some people had worlds, but it does. But it does
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: feel like different from I don't.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: But I like a regular store. I actually, uh yeah, morally,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I think that there are plenty of stores where I'm like, yeah,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: shoplift from them too, they're equally bad or whatever. And
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not speaking for Ellie here.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no no, we'll give me looking at
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: every every every camera. No. I that's right. I apparently
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: have never stolen anything, or so I'm saying, you're an angel.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I really don't think I must have stolen something off them.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I think about it, and I also am acting like, oh,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I never, but I've done.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Well. Stealing is scary.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: It's so scary because not that I've done it, but
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: it does. It's scary, and with good reason, the fear
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: that you might get caught, Yes, and that's a good
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: thing to scare from doing it. But also yeah, I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: think even if there were no victim, I still think
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I would be like, but it's.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Wrong, right, I guess right. Yeah. The one like real
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: experience with shoplifting I had was my brother. My mom
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: had taken us all shopping to something called chopcoat and
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: my brother changed the price on like a model plane
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: or something, and my mom bought it unwittingly. And then
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: the what they dragged my poor mom through in the
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: security room is I mean, it was beyond it, like
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: brutalized this poor mother. She's got four children and no,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: it's just like just what So it was really traumatic.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: They was this all the same visit or they called.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: It was all the same visit. They caught us on
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: the way out.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: That's absurd.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: At shop CO.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Did your brother ever admit to He.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Must have admitted, but he was probably nine or.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: What a waste of resources? No, I can't imagine. And
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: it's you know a little like slap on the wrist
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: and your mother.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I know, the stakes couldn't have been higher for SHOPCT right,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: and they probably lost three dollars. Yeah, it was one
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: of these things. I think this is like a new
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: thing among retailers. Most of the time, if it's like
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: a low key thing, they're like, just leave them alone.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: It's a waste of resources.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Well, and I also think right with all the like
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: self checkout, that they have calculated a certain number of
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: people are just going to see they to take things.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's really nothing we can do. Yeah, it's
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: worth it to not pay human beings to do the job.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: That's what. That's the math they've worked out, and I
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: have to I don't know which one. Oh wait, do
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I know which one? You choose? You choose not checking
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: self check.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Oh I do whatever. Oh okay, I'm kind of in
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: some places you kind of have no option at this point.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Target it's like there's this one harried employee who has
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: fifty person people they are doing, and then there's the
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: self checkout.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I know the other day it was taking so long
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: in line for the human I was like, don't be
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: overt just but like I did want to move over
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to the self checkout. I had to go to the
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: person because of the security. Oh they're not tags, they're
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: security whatever things on the clothes. So I went to
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the but I was trying to do it so like discreetly, so.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: It's not too right, right, like get them in trouble
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: for going too slow or something.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: And it was it's just it's fun at first because
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: you get disapped, sure, and then it's just it's I
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is. I don't run a business. Again,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I guess the math shakes out. But it's just a.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Bummer, all right, It's just kind of they's just a
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: continual bummer among industries at this point.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Right. So then if you feel so sometimes something doesn't scan.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: It does run through my head like just take it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: But you know that. But then you're on you see your.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: You see your face right, yes, unflattering portray. Look at you,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: you hideous thief.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: It's like that's why it's there, Yeah, just to remind
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: you just.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: To look at yourself.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: What are you doing? How has it come to this?
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Stealing from target? Anyway? And then and then I never do.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I just never. I actually will say those. The thing
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: where it shows your face almost looks like a cool
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: music video or something apps. So then you're hearing cool
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: music in your head and you're thinking, I'm gonna I'm
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: gonna do something cool. I'm gonna steal. Yes, I look
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: cool on camera.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: You're so right, it actually is counterproductive.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I need to make those more unflattering or something, uh huh,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: or have like a photo of an attractive person next
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: to us. You're comparing yourself. You're like, what am I?
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: How do I become that?
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, exactly, m M yeah, I don't know.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know either. Well I do, there is something
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I do know about speaking of just crimes that shouldn't
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: be forgiven, et cetera. Ellie, I was excited to have
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: you here today. I've been doing the podcast for a
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: long time. I've done a lot of episodes. I think
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: we've probably had two duds. I know we've had two duds.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I was we wouldn't have a third. The podcast is
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: called I said no gifts, so I was a little surprised,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: after the billion emails that were exchanged, et cetera, that
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: you arrived with a gift. I did, and.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I know you said no gifts. I didn't know if
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: you were just being polite. It's three hundred episodes.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: You've done, right, so there's.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Bee hundred you should be celebrated.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: So this is almost unrelated. You're just bringing it as
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: a celebration.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Congratulations too. A gift giving is very
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: popular where I come from, and I thought you should
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: be given a gift. But I seem to have offended you,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: and I'm really sorry.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: So you've gotten caught up in some gift giving fad.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's more than a fad.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's like across cultures, people give gifts.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: It's here to stay.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I think it's here to stay.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Well, should we open it here on the podcast?
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you're okay, okay, thank you for
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: being a good sport about it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Of course I try. I'm working on that in therapy.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I've now blocked myself on the camera for a minute,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and I'm sure everyone's freaking out and we can't leave
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: it for just some minutes just so people are sweating.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Is it going to leave it here the whole episode?
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: The gift bag is very big. Yeah, it probably my
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: size and.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: It might be your size. And you'll see when you
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: get the gift. Oh now you're blocking me. Now you'll
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: see when you get the gift.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: This is the thrill of video, just blocking.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Cat's I'm a huge prop comic and so I know.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: But it the gift is half the size.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm the bad And it's in this gorgeous kind
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: of mint green with polka doonts.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I think it's from Target.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: It's from Tart. You filled this with items other items
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: that were also so that was a famous shoplifting thing.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: What somebody in my high school, stole a suitcase and
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: then put other objects in the amount of things, and
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: then one of the I'm sorry to go on attention.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: He stole a used Burger King polo. Then use that
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: to go work at Burger King. Wait, this person was amazing.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Wait was this from the thrift story? Yeah? Hell did
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: he king already? No?
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Wait what this person stole all kinds of things inside
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: a stolen suitcase, walked out of the thrift store with
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: the suitcase. One of those things was a Burger King polo.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Then he put that on and went to Burger King
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: and worked, went behind the counter to work at Burger
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: ca untrained train just like for a period. This is
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: this is a remarkable team.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: That's unbelievable.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Teens can surprise you the end them. Give him a chance,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Give him a chance, Give teens a chance.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Are you in touch with him?
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not in touch with him. He was like a
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: friend of a friend.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I wonder what I don't probably works at Burger King.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: That was a stream job. He would do whatever it
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: took to work.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: He was he couldn't get a job the regular way,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: so he dressed as an employee and showed up. That's brilliant.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Maybe I should try that free time. Okay, let's get
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: into this. We've got tissue. Okay, do you want to
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: do that on your mind, I'll do it. Oh gorgeous, Okay,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I'm reaching in.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is this a garbage garbage can?
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: What does this say? Oh? Street name, New York street name.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So it's it's a two fer. There's
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: two in one here. Because you're a writer, sometimes.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: You have what I would say thriving industry.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Never, I don't doubt that a lot of your
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: first drafts are perfect. But sometimes writers have first drafts
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: that they have to toss in the So that's a
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: trash can for any discarded first draft.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: It's just immediately attacking my ability for your first, your second,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: your third, your fourth draft you're writing is garbage. Here's
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: where you should This is where your career.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: This is where it is in the tank, and this.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Is what your career is missing.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: This is it a garbage No, no, no, all joking aside,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: it's for the first drafts, right, So then you do
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: the first draft and you and you say, okay, I'm
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: going to make these edits, and then you enter the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: edits in the second draft, and then you discard the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: first draft. Right, it's all great writers discard their first dress.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: So that's what that's for. But the main reason is
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: because of the.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: New York connection, of course.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: So for those of you listening not watching, there are
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: New York places for this trash camp. Ninth Street in Brooklyn,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Borough Hall, King's Highway, a place I've never used.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Highway. Interesting, that's also the name of a diner in
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Palm Springs that could be doing a better job. Yeah, sorry,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: King's Highway. You could. You have a beautiful environment. Let's
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: get the food up to speak. Yea King's Highway. I've
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: never heard of King's Highway.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: You're in my life in New York, but I guess
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: it's there. Coney Island, J Street, Pearl Hall for Brooklyn twice.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: The reason I thought they ran names? No, Brooklyn, they
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: literally ran out of Brooklyn. Let's do Brooklyn again. White Street,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Coney Island, No, it is only other ones.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: It's they certainly ran out of names. The reason I thought, okay,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: New York trash can Bridger is because we know each
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: other from me.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's where we met.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: And I don't know how much time you spent total
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: in New York.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I mean when I was working on Kimmy, it was
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: like a year total, And then regrettably made the decision
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: not to go back, which was whatever.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I want to get into that. Yeah, we should get
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: it really well, but and I don't want to bring
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: back some pains painful members. All I hear all. Now
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: that I know your time in New York spent weeping
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: on the subway, I do apologize for bringing those memories.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: But the other thing is when we first corresponded about
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: this show, yes we you had you were in New York.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought that you were in New York
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: because I had reached out like would you want to
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: do an episode in New York?
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: And like a monster, I did not reply right.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Like a monster, I started, I mean, the word has
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: been spread and there's no taking up back. Oh I've
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: really I've made a mess of your name and.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: You as well. You should. I think it was I
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: don't know what it was. It was like a absolutely
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: just did not respond for like months.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: No, not months. Maybe you're better, Yeah.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Thanks for saying up. But I was thinking, oh, you
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: live in New York. Because it was I thought, well,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: he's in New York. What where? Okay, where does he live?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: And so then so I thought, okay, our first correspondent
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: was about New York. Then we realized, oh, we're both
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, and then that's what ultimately brought us together.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of symbolism, I think, right, of course,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: with the New York street names.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Right, at some point, it feels like you thought, I
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: may even be a drifter. Where does it? No one
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: can pinpoint where this person actually is on a map.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: He's running person.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: He seems to be in Florida at the King's Highway diner.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: No, that's Palm Spring should King's Highway. You've got a
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: nice environment. Let's bring up the food to speed.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: He says it again.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I hold them to I just it's a disappointment
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: every time I get it, and I wish the food
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: was better.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: And it's just a diner.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: It's a diner attached to the Ace Hotel. It's an
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: old Denny's. It's a beautiful environment. I wish they could
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: just bring up the food to speed. I'm sorry, King's Highway,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: You've got a beautiful environment.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Come on, you're saying, bring it off. So yeah, but
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I love New I don't know what your experience.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I I love New York in some way, I can't
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: exist in New York. I have a hard time existing
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: in New York.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: All I want to hear why. I mean, I get it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I'm too fragile. I'm a fragile baby. No. I grew
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: up in Utah, which is more car culture, then moved
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: to LA which was an easy enough shift, and then
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: when I came and worked on Kimmy, you know, like
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: the weather is a little bit more extreme every moment
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: you were working to be alive. There are plenty of
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: wonderful things. I mean, bakery wise, they've got us beat
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: here in LA. Every time I'm there, I'm eating so
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: many baked goods.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: In New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah, incredible, incredible.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But I was there in April, and you know,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: when you go in the fall or spring in New York,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: it's very seductive. You think I should live here for
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: the rest of my life. But this April, the first
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: three days was probably ninety degrees and then the next
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: three days was like thirty eight to forty degree, which
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: was kind of nice. Where it's like, oh, so these
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: two weathers here you don't want to leave your apartment.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Right, right? You do you think there is a fundamental
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: like heartiness in uh. I I do think though that
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: kind of those that adversity is good for the spirit.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: But I could be wronged.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I think it probably is, sure.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not for it's it's very hard.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just hard. You. I just and leaving Utah.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: One of the big things I didn't want to experience
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: every dain, of course, was the winter. And so having
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: winter in any form for me is just too much.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I've become you, I was on my way. I've been
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: on my way to becoming you. But I cannot It's true.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I cannot tolerate winter anymore. I don't know what happened.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Well, it's miserable.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: It's just awful. And in New York you're out in it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, so that's very Your feet are wet, uh huh.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: The bottom of your pants is frequently wet. Yes, And
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: they're like the brief windows where it looks nice and
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: then the rest of its grace lush.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I know, I know. And then the only thing in
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: this winter was like apocalyptic, just frozen the whole. I
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: guess that's what I've seen or heard. But I think
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the snow just stayed there for three straight months. But
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: which I guess that happens in Chicago or something all
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the time. But I do feel the end of each day,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: you come home and you've earned it, and you've.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Just oh interesting, yeah, but then what have you earned
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: the right to be exhausted and fall asleep on the couch?
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I know, No, You're so right. It's a love hate place.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: If by the way, by the way, if you would
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: come back and be like I loved my time there,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I would be singing it. I'd be like, I know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: there's right.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Of course you can convince somebody that they love New
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: York and like, I mean, there are so many incredible things, yes,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: but yeah, just for me. I think I may have
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: mentioned this on this podcast at some point, but I've
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: kind of like come to the realization that if somewhere
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: is fun to visit, it's probably not as much fun
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: to live there. Oh that's so insightful, because LA, I
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: don't think is like a necessarily fun place to visit.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: No one's like, let's go to LA, Like you don't
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: take the family to When I see a family that's
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: visiting La, I'm like, what are you doing here?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Polite with deepest respect, disagree.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Los Angeles proper you think is like a fun okay, well,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: and let me also preface this with like, there's so
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: much good food here. I love La person.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I know you do.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: But when I when somebody comes from and they're not
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: familiar with it, they're like, I don't know where to stay.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I should do. And I think
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: it's like a harder city to access, whereas with New
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: York it's like every moment you're there, something looks neat,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: there's great food everywhere, and it's just easier, right.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Right right. I think coming here as a to Los
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Angeles I'm trying to help the tourist actually is not
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: a bad idea because there are so many like there's
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: so many sites that you have read I have not
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: been to, but that are you know, like bus ride
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: tour buses, Oh yeah, of course, and going to Universal
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff. So there, and there's I went
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: on a trip here when I was in college with
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: my roommate. We just came here. It's not so weird.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: My roommate and I did come to Los Angeles to
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: just check it out. Yeah, and more than that, our
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: first celebrity siding happened. Gary Coleman.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, r I p are I the help
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: in Utah?
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah?
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: He lived with a woman and he collected trains.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: And was she Mormon?
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: She? I just remember she had really small teeth, that
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: she had red hair. She did have her red hair. Yeah,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: either of us could play her in.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: That was he? I don't want to. But was did
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: she kill him?
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Oh? I don't think she killed Oh I thought she did.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: She ellis look into whether or not she killed him.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: That would be a good thing to know.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I thought she pushed him down the stem.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Probably she seemed like that. It did seem like a
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: tough relition.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Very complicated. Yeah, and ultimately that's I mean it.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: And we wish her the best.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Yes, it was ruled as an accidental death, but according
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: to a Hollywood reporter thing from July of twenty twenty five,
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: she didn't do so well on the polygraph.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: So twenty twenty five they're looking into it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: This.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Wow, people still care? Yeah, two people right here.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: We're cracking the case. Wow.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: What so she's roaming free when she should be behind bars?
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: It seems, well, why are they bringing up the polygraph
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: test now because it was a long time ago that
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: he died, right, fortunately, Yes, at least a decade ago
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's disturbing. I don't know what I mean. When
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: these things are revealed years decades later, you think what
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: were you doing the whole time?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: But in any event, I came here on vacation and
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: enjoyed it. So but I do know you have a
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: very good point, which is visiting a place and it's
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: fun is a message not to live there. So I
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: do see what you're saying about New York. I do
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: want to retire there though, for sure. Oh interesting, Oh
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: do you think it'd be easy to retire, Yeah, to.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Be like an elderly person. It seems like you kind
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: of it's just like a city that it's like living
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: in a retirement home, but it happens to be a
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: city as well. Exactly, there are services everywhere. You can walk,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: you can go down to the street level and there's
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the grocery store.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, it seems that's exactly where I retirement village right there.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: And you would want to live in the city as
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: a retireing, Yeah, for sure, Yes, I think that I
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: would be a senior that died in the cold or
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: in the heat. So I don't know that that's for me.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: I think that I'm I think I'm stuck in sunny
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: southern California, although I like the more the time passes,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I'm going to certainly we'll all die
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: of the heat here.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: It is atrocious and in Locking Yata where I am
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: which to listeners who don't or watch viewers, it's bypassa.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've been to lock in Loch and yacht's
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: anything to say.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: It is so it is so tricky to say. It
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: sounds like you're saying lock and YadA.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Lock Andata. It's a cop duo, Lock and Yata. CBS.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: It's fifteen degrees hotter there all the time. Anyway, It's
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: a great place to live.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: It is so many good restaurants. Yes, ah, what we
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: should say some nice things about Los Angeles. Wonderful coffee.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: It's great coffee. I think I think the people.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Are people are a surface level polite. Yeah. I've managed
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: to kind of like remove most of the total psychos
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: from my life. Oh so there are some psychos, but
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: there are psychos everywhere.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: There's cycles everywhere. But how do you You can't remove
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: the like stranger psycho.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they'll keep coming in and out.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: But you know, I want to know the man blocking
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: the door. But he was a dad.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: It was dad. He had like a like a smaller
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: child that could be staying and he was like holding them.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I was ready to open the door.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: But then he stood in front of and like let
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: himself in and say, sir, I was ready to be
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: polite here, and now you've been a horrible example to
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: your son that's going to be a bad ad.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: It was because he is it, because he had a
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: kid and he could do it all.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I think it was a do it all situation where
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, you're fine, You're about to get a latte,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: just right. What are we trying to prove for you?
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: I just I my probably my biggest problem with anyone
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: is when they are just like are not aware of
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: the space they're taking up or are and are doing
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: nothing about it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: So that's something I've struggled with here. I do feel
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: like in New York there is a shared sense of
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: space and people just understand it. I'm not saying that's like,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: oh wow, what a skill, or like we're so superior.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: But I do think that there's a flow just because
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: you're navigating it twenty four to seven with the streets
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: with other people. And I've noticed so many times it's
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's me, although it could be. I
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: don't want to like dismiss that idea, but in a
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Ralph Serretta whatever like store or parking lot situation, there's
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: a problem with flow right, specifically pedestrian track.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Like absolutely right, yeah, and.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm walking this, and then I find
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: myself doing that like so often.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think probably because people are frequently not in
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: shared space.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's it, which is part of.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Why I love being here is not from the shared space.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: But I'm also trained in the the art of like
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: being aware of other human bodies, right and just like
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: being polite and yeah, getting out of the way.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I know, how do how are you doing? Like when
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: you do encounter the psychos, what do you do?
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I'm just I see if it goes too far, I
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: start making like sounds yeah, or like I was at
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: found Coffee again. I love the place, but this was
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: another experience where a woman had plugged her or her
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: car computer charger into the wall, but she was at
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: the table over so this one was at my table,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: and so it was it was just shoving into my back,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: which I would be okay with if she said, I'm sorry,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I have a low battery. Totally not a problem.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Not a problem. I'm happy I can help somehow switch
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: If that helps. No acknowledgements. And I saw what she
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: was working on her computer. It was a bad photoshop job.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: She should probably consider other careers.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Let the battery die.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let the battery dice card.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: That's so, did you just.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Like moving in big ways and no acknowledgment whatsoever.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: That you and I not only have similar complexions but
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: similar world views, because that is just so infuriating, And
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: it's like, I don't I mean, I've you heard about
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: the let them theory?
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Of course, of course, isn't that well known.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: It's extremely well known, the way that thing took over
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: TikTok and Instagram. She was ever everywhere telling everybody to
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: let them.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's not I don't know. I have a
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: lot of thoughts about that. That's like nothing new, but
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I'm happy she found a cat's raised. But what it's crazy.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: It is a sort of thing where it's like, oh,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: so you're just saying something that and actually kind of
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: promoting something that's more complicated than letting people off the like.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: It's very common. I've tried doing it with my kids
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: when they're like being crazy right or annoying, and I'll
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: be like, well, like like I was gonna say something horrible,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: but they're like in danger, They're like running with scissors.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what they're bothering me? It has its limits, right,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: and letting someone plug their thing in such a way
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: that is jetting into your back is an example. Let
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: them doesn't work. No, it's like, really.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: You should be tell them interesting. That's that's me as
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: mel Robins t e l them. It's the let start it, Yes,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: tell them.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Turn it?
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: We turn let around?
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, turn let around?
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Around?
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Time to turn let around and tell them.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna do it. I'm got a big
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: pair of black glasses. Yes, tell them. I love this.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I really like it.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Wow, I think it is something and we need more.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Tell she was saying, and I don't know if this
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: is big on TikTok. But people are getting tattoos of
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: let them, and so you I'll be the first, I'll
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: get tell them perfect.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I'll be like, tell them, this is my career safety net.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Just tell them people are getting let them tattoos. It's
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: a little early.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: It's just too early.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: That's like getting Atkins diet tattoo. It's like, no, not
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: a few years pass and see if you're you like
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: the idea still crazy?
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: They saw they just laughed onto it. So fat. Everyone's
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: desperate for something.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: You have to something to hang on.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I know this specific example, it's letting them.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: But the let them kind of went hand in hand.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: I think there was before that. There was a lot
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: of sorry if I'm too much for you.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Just have you ever been called a lot or whatever? Yes,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry too.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, sometimes you are too much and that's a
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: problem for other people.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: There are limits behavior. I know the example, and you
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: need to cut me off if I'm talking too much.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: We likewise, yeah, yeah, I will. The example I read,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I read part of them, I listened to it.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: This is I mean, this is every reader's experience for
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: this book.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I think I think so. Yes, the example she gives
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: in the introduction, is that someone is coughing behind her
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: on it. We're talking about mel Robbins for you don't know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I knew, you knew.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, and I know what I mean.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: But so when I say she that's who, and so
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: someone's coughing behind her on a plane, and she's like,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get sick. This is so annoying. Like
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: she tried glaring at him through the gap in the seats,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: and then finally she was like, she's like, what do
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: I always tell people let them? So it came about
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: something like that. So she pulled up her like turtleneck
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: and covered her face and she was like, cough away. No, No,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: She's like, if I get sick, I get sick. I'm like,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: that is I don't agree.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: That's actually the worst example of this.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: This is clearly clearly post COVID, but it was like
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: a crazy I respect this woman. I don't agree with
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: that example.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: That's a wild example. Yeah, you tell them or tell
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: the flight attendant.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, And by the way, by the way, I don't
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: want to again, I don't want to like mischaracterize it.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: She may have told the person or asked the person
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: to stop and he may have either not understood or
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: like agreed to disagree or whatever it was, but kept coughing.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's absurd. Wow, but I think that I don't know.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I think for your own sanity, you have to say,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I can't control this anymore. Right, person's coughing. Right, but
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: it feels defeatist.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, tell the flight attendant ask to be moved. There
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: are other things. Let them. Yeah, we've got to like
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: there's a balance, mel I'm coming for you. I'm going
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: to be telling them from now. Wow. I found the
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: antidote to I love it. It's incredible.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: It was like right in front of us the whole time.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: We just needed a mirror.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you, as a parent, this is another
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: space occupying thing that drives me crazy. Is when someone
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: has a child between like three to seven, and there's
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: a line behind them for whatever service, and they decide,
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: right now is the time for like the child to
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: learn to use the credit card or like to pay,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: or to like use the soda fountain or whatever. I
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: understand you want your child to but like when there
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: are people behind you, let's maybe we find a different
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: time to do this.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. What have I strongly
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: disagreed and we got here's what I The first thing
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: that came to mind when you said that is, I'm
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: thinking of the pits, and I'm thinking of I don't know,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: with residents or below a residence. It's a teaching hospital,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: so they have to learn, literally on the job. That's
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: how they learn, right, the stakes could and they're doing
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: that giving your child the opportunity or to like order
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: for themselves or like to thank the cat the worst.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: And I've found myself guilty on this, but guilty of this.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: But when you are teaching your kid manners in real
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: time and you're like, thank the cashier and they're like
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: and then you're like no, no, no, no, thank the
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: cash and the cashier is like, I do not care.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I have a job.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: It's awful. It's so self centered. And it makes as
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: someone who's also received this like say thank you for
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: having me over or whatever. You're like, now I have
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: to wait around and wait for your Can you start.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: To feel like the bad guy? No, I'm sorry now,
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry that they've put us in a situation.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I yeah, do not do that. And also there's a
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: there's a like look that a parent will get where
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: it's like I'm doing it right, you know.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: And I feel bad because I as a non parent
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: anytime I say something about parenting. But this is one
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: where I'm just like, let's let's again find the balance.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I agree with everything. Oh my gosh, that was also
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: something I was going to bring you.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: By the way, what, oh child, you're going to learn
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: it's harder than you think.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I pull out.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: It was a what are they called diffusers read diffusers
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: of balance? I'll give that to you one of the
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: six hundred episode. What you'll forget about it then? Just
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: about finding balance?
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Oh right? I mean that is uh in my own life,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: I could be probably better at that.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: We all could.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: I feel like you've probably got a nice balance. I
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: feel like you're a You're a joyful, happy person that
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: always feels like.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: We we know that's not true, but no, we know
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: who's who is that?
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: But I feel like you are at least headed in
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: the other direction.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: You know what we are about to be like, we
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: are lucky. I don't know what. It's just felt like
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: a safe thing to say we're blessed.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: Gratitude attitude is the attitude. Dude, Ellie, thank you so
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: much for being here. We're out of time, are we?
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: No? I did, and I was like, that's okay, and
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: then I was gonna like on the drive home, such
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: a crazy I was ready for it. It did seem
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: like that's how he ends it. I haven't seen him
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: in another shows that way, but.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Special occasion.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I'm just three hundred. He's out lose my mind. Tell them,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: tell them it's over.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: I have this garbage can no. No. What I was
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: going to say is I'm sorry that I didn't work
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: on more. Kimi should because I adore you. When I
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: adored the show so much so.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: I was it's mutual. And I also I really liked
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: that whole experience. I think back on it now and I'm.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Like, that was so rare wonderful. I mean, for me,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: it was like a dream, like a miracle. It was
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: like going to the Olympics.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: It was, but it wasn't. I mean, no, what is
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: it when a storm is when a tornado is about
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: to happen, you hear thunder first. What I mean is.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not looking into any of that science. I'm sure
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: it's true.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: It couldn't have been a shock. It wasn't. You didn't
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: character you didn't call it. I keep saying characterized. You
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: didn't describe it as a shock. But when you said
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: it was like the Olympics, it was like, what, No,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: it was the next step for it or whatever. Yeah,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: you're just being a nice person, and I'm no.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: But it was just one of those things where I like,
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: when I worked at Jimmy Kimmel, this is this incredible thing.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: It was so incredible. I was like, I never thought
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: I would make it this far. I'll be at the
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: show for the rest of my life. And then this job,
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: which was like I hate almost all of television, and
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: so to be like, oh, literally the show I want
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: to work on, I get to go work on it
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: completely and write jokes, which is more and more rare.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: And then it was just like such a lovely group
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: of people. Yes. So it was just a lovely thing.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: And ultimately a thing that kept me from coming back
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: was the idea of like going back to New York
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: in November, I think, And it was this thing where
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: it's like.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems this might be a saying that people
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: other than Titus. Lovely, Lovely, Titus says but he always says,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I overstand.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Is that overstand? Yes, you understand even more.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Even and I've only ever heard it from him, so
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I wanted to credit him.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: But apparently I'm trying to think, is overstand something that
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: came from the show that Titus the character said?
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Oh I thought he just said it. He says in
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: real life? Did you see it in the show?
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Blurs life is art as life is hard, yes, yes,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: and so we don't know where the two separate. But
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I do overstand coming back in November to New York.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: It's no joke.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: So dark. It's so dark, it's really I wish.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: You had come back because we were all there. I
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: guess how long did it go?
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: But whatever it was, Yeah, there was another thing where
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: that was a miracle show where you like worked for
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: more than ten minutes. You know, they went for several
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: months writing the show rather than like write thirteen episode
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: in a week. Thirteen episodes in a week, right, I
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: think it was like a normal schedule.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: I think it was a normal schedule, and thirteen seemed
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: like short then oh right, anyway.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it did seem short then, and now it's like, well,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: seven episodes you're lucky if you get eight Yeah, right, right,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: an entire sitcom in eight episodes.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but why why? But I want to also
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: clarify what I meant. I just meant about that being
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: the Olympics or whatever. I meant like, of course you
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: would have that job. That's a good fit. And also
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: you were just being grateful, so I'm doing nice.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very nice. But it did the stakes seemed
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: incredibly high because rarely do you work with people where
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: you've seen their names, you know, it's just like, yeah,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: it's a very rare thing. So initially that was such
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: an intimidating place because everyone that was like at the
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: absolute top of their game.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I never went to the writer's room for mostly that reason.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is an intimidating place to be.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: And also they made all those jokes about actors coming
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: into the writer's room on thirty Rock.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing that.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be fodder. So I'm not falling
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: into your trap. You made jokes about this in your show.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: No, it was just it is.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so those it does feel like the Olympics.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: All that to say, Oh I wish that show was
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: still going whatever what are you going to do?
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I you know, I don't know what you're going to do.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: And I keep thinking, oh maybe maybe every show now
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: seems to come back, so maybe another twenty years we'll
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: have a reunion.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of reunion. That's like ten season Harry b. Yeah,
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: the ten season reunion. Yeah, I don't know.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: It goes and goes.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: I have my garbage can. I'll be able to throw
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: whatever I want in here. It's very tasteful. I think
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: we should play a game. Okay, I'm going to play
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: a game called Gift or a Curse, but I need
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: a number between one and ten from you four. Okay.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating to get our
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: game pieces. So right now you can recommend, promote, do
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: whatever you want on the microphone. I'll be right back. Okay.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going to promote a show that isn't out yet,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: so you have to remember it. It's called Elephant and
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Piggy and it's an animated show and I am the
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: voice of Piggy. By the way, not to like out
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: my husband, but literally two days ago he's like, which
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: voice are you? And I was like, I posted about
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: this on Instagram. It says Ellie Kemper is piggy, so
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I repeated that information to him and Titus, our old
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: friend is voicing elephant. So it's a based on a
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: book series by the Great Moe Williams. And that show
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: that I've spent five minutes talking about just now will
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: come out at some point where on Paramount plus Paramount plus, Okay,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I think, I mean, no, I know, I know, but
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I just I suddenly thought, is
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: it paramount plus or just paramount?
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Right? I just.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Do you ever watch Couple's Therapy?
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: No?
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: That's is that a recommend incredible show? You have to
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: watch me?
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Why don't I watch it?
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: If you like it, you won't stop. I mean you'll
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: start and you'll just blow through the entire thing.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to embarrass myself. When did it come?
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: It's like in the last five to six years. It's
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: this therapist orna incredible person, and her advisor Virginia.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Who I love, and it's just is this reality?
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: This is a reality show. It's more like documentary reality.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: And she just meets with Cup and you see their
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: couple's therapy and it's so fascinating. Oh and also very calming.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: For the most part because of the like mood, or
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: because it's reassuring.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: The mood Orna is such a lovely presence, and it's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: also reassuring. Sometimes you're watching these couples and you're like, well,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: at least that's not my relationship. You see some of
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: the relationships people are Any're like, that's an unsolvable problem.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: It's yes, and you're trapped with the worst person on
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: the life. So it's nice to watch as a couple
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: and you think you'll be so grateful for your partner
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: because just wait, they don't.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Do that thing. Yeah, I can't wait. That's going to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: be a great show.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: That's great. Of course I have nothing to watch on TV.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: And then the new season that came out and I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: watched all of it in less than twenty four hours,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: and now I'm back to be mad at TV. It's
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: a tough cycle. It is that.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: That's really hard.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: The pit. Yeah, the pit, I'm too. I need to
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: get over it.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: No, you don't.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: But I like to eat something while I'm watching TV, and.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: I was that's for the nine hundredth episode. I'm going
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: to bring you snacks because that was my other thing
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: I was. I love eating snacks. What kind of snacks,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: animal crackers, teddyms like.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Little things that you haven't had a teddy Gram in
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: a while?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Of course, why would you. You're a grown man.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: You'd be surprised.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: The things I do is Yeah, yeah, they're They're delightful.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: It's just because they're bright size. Right.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite Teddygram flavor?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Honey?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, Honey's a good one.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Honey's just it feels classic, right, it's kind of.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: The original, I think so. Yeah, and then they kind
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: of got crazy. I like a chocolate chip one. I
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: don't know if those are still on the.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Market, are in the market. They taste funny though they
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: don't know what's in them.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's like that certainly isn't chocolate. You don't
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: think sort of dirt or pepple they put in here.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: I've got to maybe I'll circle back to see if
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: I like those anymore.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you may as well.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: So you're a snack person while you're watching TV.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Gosh, I should have brought the snacks. Yeah, yes I am.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: It's the reason I watch TV.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: So you can't do that with the pit I muscle through.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: I don't look I mean they go out of their
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: way I think sometimes.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: To be grossy. Right, that's not fair. No, no, no, no.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: They should give like a squeamish warning.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be the screen should flash. There should
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: be like a siren that plays something gross is going
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: to happen.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: I think that was just like wait, like we're about
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: to do that, but it's yeah, there's not What can
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: you watch the snacks?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Well, they come back, they come back. There's there's plenty
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: of television shows you could. I think you could eat
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: popcorn while watching the pit though. I think you want
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: to dry snack while you're watching that because there are
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of wet, gross things that happen.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I know, but I don't eat wet snacks, do you.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: I don't exclusively wet snacks. What are they called gushers?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, gushers. We've had gushers on this podcast. They were
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: discussed have you had one recent that should be expelled
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: from the market. We've like, we've moved on from that flavor.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: They were revolting.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Everything about it is feels toxic.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Extually, the flavor is absolutely vile. The name is it's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: tough to get over.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Everything is. But clearly people buy them.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: I mean there's demands or a company has just forgotten
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: that they make. They just keep creaking because they're true,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, what parent is buying their I think
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: there was a period when you're like, oh, this is
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: a fruit snack. I put it in totally the lunch
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: for school or whatever. But now we know it's probably
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: worse than candy.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: I think with so many of those snacks, I think
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: that's the case. Right, But popcorn feels safe, well, the kernels.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: But I just mean, for we find out you're just
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: eating kernels unpopped like a bird.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: I like snacks, like eating kernels.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: Your floor is filthy, every belly.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: I like the pit.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to play Gift to a Curse. I'm
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: gonna put this on the ground because just so we
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: have full view of my laptop.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: For some.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know why I did that. Now I'm upset
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: with myself. Oh, We're going to play a game called
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Gift to a Curse. I'm going to name three things.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: You will tell me if there are a gift or
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: a curse and why, and then I'll tell you if
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers. First,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: This is from one of our Patreon listeners, Sarah. Gift
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: or a curse when a family member or friend gives
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: an honest review of your cooking.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure a curse because, oh my gosh,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: that's a curse because you took time to make something.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Sorry. I have a very personal example. Yeah,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: I cook for my kids, and I'm not a good
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: cook or a great cook, but I can put together
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: food and I follow the recipe and it's fine, and
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: they do give me honest reviews and nothing. I've said
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: this a few times. I feel like nothing makes me angrier,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: but this makes me very hurt and annoyed that I
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: spent time preparing food that is then criticized as not
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: being tasty. So I think it's a curse. It makes
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: everyone mad. I think it's I'm sorry, what was her name, Sarah?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: I think, Sarah, that it is a curse. And by
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: the way, even if it were an adult family member
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: saying I think this could have you know, more salt,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: I would say I would take that as a I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: think it's a curse.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, Ellie, you're wrong. Oh that's a gift. You're running from.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: Positive feedback you're running from your critics. I think that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: you are afraid of getting better. I think that ultimately
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: you need to put your ego aside and say, look,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: I've nothing but bad meals for my children. They were right.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: I'm torturing these poor children, and instead of taking their
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: feedback and improving, I'm the martyr. You're always the martyr. Yeah,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: and I think that you've got to rethink that.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: I am not mad at that. I am listening to
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: what you're saying.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, you're hearing me.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: I'm hearing you, and I think there's something that can
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: be extracted.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: People love to hear honest feedback about their cooking. Okay,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: you spend hours of your day putting together the meal
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: and someone says, well, this would have been better with nuts. Yeah,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: and you say thank you, thank you for saying that,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: thank you. Okay, Well, we've gotten one wrong so far.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Let's see zero zero zero, trying to be nice by
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: saying you've gotten one wrong. Okay. The second one is
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: from a listener named Lucy. Let's say gift or a
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: curse concert encurse.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: I think that's well, it depends. Okay, I'm going to
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: say that's a gift. I think it's a gift because
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: if you're at the concert, you're clearly a fan, and
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: what could be nicer than the performer giving you some
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: extra I guess love, some extra attention, some extra songs,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: which some extra art, which is what you came there
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: to enjoy. Again, it's hard because it's like the performer
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: want to do an encore. Of course they love attention,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: so it is a gift, correct.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: I think they're a gift. I think that they've gotten
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: a lot of you know, people are obvious, like it's
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: too much. I hate sending her clapping and waiting for
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: them to come back on. I think you have to
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: reframe this in your mind. There are two good things
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: about a concert encore. First of all, if you aren't
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: totally exhausted by the end and don't want to go
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: home desperately, little extra music for you to listen to.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: If you do want to leave now, you can get
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: out before everybody else gets out. You get to your
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: car first. This is something people forget about.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: If you don't want it, just leave and you seem
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: kind of cool, like everyone watches you leave like, well,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: I guess they're just better than this.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: It seems like they have standards. Yeah, and you're on
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: your way to your car. You get out sooner. So
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: it's you just have to choose what you want there.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Okay. As you have done many times in this conversation,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: you've offered some insight that I didn't have. You have
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: the option to leave.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: You have the option to leave. If that's my second book, Yes,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: you have the option to leave.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Tell them you have the option to leave that. But
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: that is either you stay for the encore, enjoy it,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: or you leave. I like that a lot. A lot
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: of people have been saying there's too much clapping.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: I really do think that people have a problem with
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: encorese Sometimes I think they're like, oh, I have to
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: stand here and wait for them to come back on stage.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: I understand the little the little show of it of
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: like we know you're coming back. We probably could cut that,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: we could add to that element, but then there it's
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: part of the framework of the thing. If there's not
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: the phony encore thing, then we don't know if it's
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: really the ends, and then people become confused. Maybe the
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: band could just say that's the end of the set.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: Now we're going to play two more songs, yes, and
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: and then everyone gets to go home. Let's set some
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: boundaries and the.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: People know what they're That would be fine with me. Yes,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: the fake whatever suspense, it is not necessary.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: And it can start to be a little sad where
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: it's like people aren't clapping that much.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: How hard is that?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: And there's just the expectation that they're coming out and
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: it's like, well, then the concept of encore has kind
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: of been lost. But you've gotten one right.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: So far, so I'm going to focus on one.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Be very careful on this next one. This is from
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: a listener named Douglas. Gift or a curse? Oh, this
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: is another concert one actually when the band makes the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: audience sing the chorus of a song.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I think that's a gift, Douglas, because and
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: I'm really the thinking about the Billy Joel documentary I
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: saw earlier this year, and when everybody would sing Piano
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Man together, and I just that's the only way I
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: would have known that people sometimes sing piano Man together
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: by watching the Billy Joel documentary. I think it is okay.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I think you and I might find it annoying just
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: because what is it not everyone's on key, and it's
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: it's something about it is annoying, but ultimately it's a
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: gift because it's shared humanity and we all how nice
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: that we By the way, I'm not talking about the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Eras tour.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: I think that is a whole what's happening there.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: I just feel like I didn't attend one. But I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: think that's its own category. She doesn't a word, she
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: did a big reveal, she just stands. Yeah, she puts
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: a GHOne out to the crowd for three hours. They're like,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: it was an amazing, groundbreaking tour. But I do think that.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: I think everyone sings the whole fat time and it's joyful.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: But where am I? I'm all over the map with this.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: I think it's ultimately a gift people sharing in something joyful.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Wrong, Oh, come on, wrong, wrong, wrong, This is something
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: that's a curse people. The band asking the audience to
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: sing along is such a scam. I'm not here to
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: not hear you sing. I'm not here And it's the chorus,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: the best part. And now suddenly a bunch of annoying
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: strangers is singing the song around me. Yeah, I'm not participating.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to participate. So I'm standing there. What
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: am I supposed to do in this moment? Right other
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: than just be furious that I've been ripped off. This
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: band has my money and they're not doing they're not
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: putting in the work.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: That's right, yeap, I completely see it that way.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Well, you got one out of three.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: That's a third. That's a third, but it's not zero.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: It's not zero, and we are so happy for that.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: I am blessed. I'm too.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Too.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: What is it too blessed to be stressed?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: To be stress? Yeah? Ellis? Do you have a gift
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: a curse?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: I can Oh, Ellis has a gift a curse where
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: they're going to give us a thing and we both
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: have to speak to it, and then Ellis, we'll have
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: an answer. I don't know if it'll be right or wrong.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: I'll decide it sounds right, Ellis, does that sound right
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: to you?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: Okay, this is going to be a little bit of
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: a weird one, but we're going to try it. Okay,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: When something funny happens in a movie and your friend
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: wants to make eye contact.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: With you as they laugh, Oh, do you want to
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: speak to this first?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: To me, it's obvious what it was. It is a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: curse straight from hell because you just are having a
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: good time. Just make eye contact. It's like in you mean,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: I think it's a curse. Straight up.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: I agree. I think that's a curse. I've had it
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: happened to me before, very rarely. But you feel their
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: eyes and you're like, you can just hear me laughing,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: don't You don't need more confirmation? What like? Is this
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: a secret between us? Now? I understand why.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: We're Is it from a movie or something you're watching?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're sitting there with this has never happened to
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: you with a friend where something funny is happening and
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: they're almost like confirming with you through eye contact. That's right,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about elis right? Correct?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: Oh hell oh, I've had apparently enough that I've, like you,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: developed an opinion that can you imagine?
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: No, sometimes if I hear someone laughing, I'll look over
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: to make sure they're okay, that they're not you know,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: choking or whatever.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: I never Oh, horrible, what do you do? I feel
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: uncomfortable and then I try to like and then I
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: really don't turn my head at all. Towards them, I
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: like almost turn slightly to another direction just so that
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: can't happen again.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Just enjoy it.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what like what do you need me
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: to validate?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: That's I that requires analysis?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Or is that a thing where it's like, Oh, I
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: gave you a little treat by showing you this funny thing.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: Look at me?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Oh the worst you mean if the person has shown
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: you right like, ah, so you like, don't get you're
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: it's all. It's awful. So much pressure.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: We have way too much pressure. Yeah, Oh, kill the mood.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Kill the mood.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: And uh.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: If someone is showing you, oh, did you see this
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: video and then you watch it while they watch you, awful.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: But if it's something you've both stumbled them upon, like
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: independent or whatever, like just my chance, and then you're looking.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: You're sharing it, and you're both aware that it's funny,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: but you don't have to confirm it. No, no, no, no,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: And no one should ever show another person in public
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: a funny video. Don't do that to anyone in your life.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: Send it to them and let them do that in private.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: Don't make me perform for your because you can.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: And it's usually if it's somebody you know, well, they
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: know you're fake laughing. It's all. It's just a terrible,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: terrible thing that happens.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: Evil Ellis, Did we get the answer correct?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: I tried not to lead too much, but I just
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: needed a moment to complain about it, because it's of
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: course it's a curse.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Ok.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: Good, it is so awful.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: I'm laughing at the screen.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: Why do I Why is this?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: I'm performing for you like I'm laughing with you as No,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: we're watching a thing together.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: This is it's bizarre behavior. And now the worst thing
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: is that I had a friend who did this so
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: much with me. I've started to do it with other
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: people and I catch myself because it's so obnoxious.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Oh so that is remarkable that your friend's behavior, yeah,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: transferred onto you, and now you are following doing the
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: thing you hate. I'm so sorry.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: Now. There is something I in the same category that
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: I think you should do is when you've prepared food
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: for someone, when they take a bite, lock eyes with them,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: maintain eye contact for that first bite, just follow them
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: through the whole bite. I hate it.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: I hate eye contact.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: Is Yeah, it's almost just entirely unnecessary.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: It really is. It's so bad.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: Well we all got the answer right on that one.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: That's very nice.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Fee.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. People
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: are writing into I said, no gives it gmail dot
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: com just kind of in general begging for answers. We
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: hope me answer a question. All right, this is Hello Bridger.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: They don't say anything.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: To you, Ali, and that's fine.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: Cruel. This says, I'm joking. Wait, I'm joking about her
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: being my neurology. This is very confusing. Okay, I am
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: joking about her being my neurologist. But my girlfriend is
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: a neurologist. Okay, so let's just unpack this really quickly.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: So we think that the girlfriend's actually a neurologist. But
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: then the partner is like, you're my neurologist because you
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: deal with my brain. Is that what the tri question?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: We're on or off to a bad story?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: We did?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Hold on. I feel like I've We're like, we gotta
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: figure this out quick. This is I don't think unless
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: part of it, because this is Hella Bridger, then we
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: get into it. Unless I've been hacked Russian interference in
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: my email. No, this is how it starts so let's
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: just assume girlfriend is a board certified neurologist. Partner is like, a,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: you're my neurologist too, because I'm so my brain's crazy
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: and this is so.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Much better that what does the text I want to
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: I'm a text? Uh? What is it if somebody believes
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: the constitution? Oh? Is that a text based?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: Do you want me to read this? Let me read
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: this full sentence to you, because that's not the full sentence.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Even I'm joking about her being my neurologist, but my
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: girlfriend is a neurologist, and I would like to propose.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: So there there's the full sentence.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: I'm joking about her being my neurologist.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: But she is a neurologist. This whatever information has been
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: given to.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Us is it's so, how is he with a neurologist?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Well, and by the way, she women can be neurologists
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: and lesbians, ellie and bad at writing emails.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Sorry, women can do anything, My bad.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: We've just proven they can have it all.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: I think what she's saying is way simpler than what
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: you were saying. All of a sudden, you're like, well,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: she's my neurologist, and she she because she deals with
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: my brain.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: What do you think it is?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: I think she's saying, hey, baby, you're mine. Now you're
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: you're my neurologist, Like you're you're my sweetheart, like you're sorry,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: you're my Lloyd.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: It's a term of endearment.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's like like, oh, like, oh, you're my writer,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: like you're like my fireman. Like it's just you're saying
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: putting my in front of the person's job.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm saying.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: It is like like, I'm fisher.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: What you said? Oh no, did you think a fisherman.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: I'm glad fisherman. Uh fisherman fishermen? Uh oh yeah, I
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: don't know what I was official?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe official.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, so this person has created a problem for us
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: that is nearly unsolvable already, and we're not even getting
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: into the email.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, let's well put that aside. We may
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: have to revisit and now, just again, can you read
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: it moment time.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: I'm joking about her being my neurologist, But my girlfriend
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: is a neurologist, and I would like to propose continuing.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: I think proposals are basically the gift of a curated
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: romantic experience unique to the proposal recipient. My question is,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: how can I do something more original than going to dinner?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: A little about her very feminine, loves very fancy slash
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: elegant things. Enjoys fine dining and food experiences, but I
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: know she would not want a proposal at dinner. She's
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: very smart, loves to travel, enjoys the outdoors but not camping.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: Loves horror movies and graphic novels. Hoping for your help,
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  Speaker 3: we've gotten to the end of the email. That's Kristen.
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  Speaker 3: Kristen is looking to propose to what could possibly be
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  Speaker 3: a neurologist, but not her. Neurologist, not hers, but in
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  Speaker 3: a very funny way. Yes, yes, not joking, Kristin. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: but you should have been We should we should have
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  Speaker 3: had a call about this, Kristen.
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  Speaker 2: CHRISTI I feel confident that there's that what you're saying
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  Speaker 2: makes sense, But I don't understand.
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  Speaker 3: What you mean. Right. We're not in on your cute
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  Speaker 3: little joke, but we but we have the.
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  Speaker 2: Facts, which is that your girlfriend is a neurologist and
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  Speaker 2: you want to propose to her.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, congratulations for so long, so exciting.
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  Speaker 2: Second of all, what are your ideas?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, we've got all these different details. She's very feminine.
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  Speaker 3: She doesn't want to go out to dinner.
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  Speaker 2: She although she likes fine dining, she loves fine dining,
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  Speaker 2: but she likes but not at a restaurant.
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  Speaker 3: Will not be proposed to or for dinner.
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  Speaker 2: So do you think that means that she doesn't want
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: people around, or like she wants a private proposal, or.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I think that it's more just like she thinks
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: that that's kind of cliche. Don't take me to a
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  Speaker 3: fancy restaurant and hide it in the dessert. I've seen
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  Speaker 3: it before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So she likes the outdoors, but she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like camping, camping.
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  Speaker 3: She hates camping. She loves horror movies and graphic novels.
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  Speaker 3: So how do we have an original proposal? And proposals
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: seem to be very high stakes at this point, they're
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: almost like proposals. They're you know, they're people are doing
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: all sorts of things for these Yes, that's right, and
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: whatever happened to will you marry me? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm seeing horror movies. I'm thinking how many proposals have
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: been terrifying?
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
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  Speaker 3: How do we turn this into a terrifying situation for
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: this neurologist where she thinks her life is in danger?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: She dragged through just this horrible, scary experience that ends
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: in I'm getting married?
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  Speaker 2: Does she? Where are they? Where do they live?
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: Great questions? Okay, all these details details galore, couldn't tell
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: us where they live?
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  Speaker 2: I was the first thing that comes to my mind,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: is is zi a haunted house situation they could go through?
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. That might not be scary enough, right,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: I think there are some legitimately terrifying not to bring
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: up New York here and then the trash can, but
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: I do think there's some legitimately I'm sure in it. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where they're.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: From, right, But they love to travel, so they can
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: go anywhere. They could travel to a scary place, to
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: a scary place.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, maybe it just needs to be a legitimately
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: scary place, haunted house aside, just a scary place.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: Cornfield, Yes, the middle of the ocean at night. What
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: else is scary?
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  Speaker 2: The middle of the ocean at night?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: A Cornfield's abandoned warehouse.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Abandoned warehouse, a cave, oh, a cave, deep in a cave.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: She likes the outdoors, right, she doesn't like camp.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: Interesting combination of the outdoors and horror cave in Cornfield.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, sure. Uh so maybe you kind of
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: take her into one of these outdoors.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, I know that you don't like the Sorry,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: she doesn't like cliches. But if she does like fine dining,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: could you at least could it be an organ that sorry,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: something that looks like an organ but it is actually
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: you know, bef you know, fishermen, fishermen, that's actually a fisherman.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: But that you turns out to be good food.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, just a nice setting that maybe the dinner
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: goes wrong, something scary happen.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Not where I was going with it, but I like
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: that idea.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: And now I'm thinking about this. You know, this would
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: be an extreme case. But the scariest movie I've ever
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: seen is Zodiac. Yeah, I believe you, And there's a
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: scary picnic scene in the movie. If you were to
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: kind of redo the Zodiac picnic scene, but then the
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: Zodiac the you know, the hired actor you've hired to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: be Zodiac killer actually ends up having the ring terrifying
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: you think your lives are over, but no, they're just
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: about to begin. That's how romantic could it possibly?
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: I think I think that combines horror, romance, picnics, picnic
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: outside outside, is it sorry? Is it picnic at night?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: No? This is again that if it's a tough scene
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: to watch, daylight.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Scarier, way scarier, way scarier.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: And that's why he was the Zodiac and nobody else
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: could be. Uh huh, he was scary.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Why did you watch that movie? But you can't you
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: can't watch the Pit? Well, I don't know what I
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: haven't seen Zodiac.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: Zodiac is the Pit is just so much close up
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: on limbs and yeah, gore. Yeah, there's not really that
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: much gore in Zodiac.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: There is no.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: It's more it's like, you do see some horrible things happen,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: but it's like not bloody, right, I mean, it's so
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: it's crazy how scary that movie is considering what you
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: actually like, You really don't. I'm trying to think of
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: how much blood you actually see.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: No, it's is it psychological?
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: But you're watching this man, You're watching some people get murdered.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: It's I don't know why you watched that, but that's
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: oh it's so good. I guess I guess I should.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: It's just you've described yourself as fragile.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: I like horror movies, and Zodi's not really a horror movie.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: It's right.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: True, I mean, it's a true.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: Story, but I like the you're getting from that for
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: this proposal, right.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: Put your lives in danger is what I'm trying to say.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: Ultimately, Now, will Kristen Kristen will know well, Kristen know
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: that they're safe or.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: No, yes Kristen, Well that's up to Kristen. If Kristen
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: wants to put their lives in genuine danger, that's up
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: to Christen. We know that Kristen can get a little
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: wild and things they do writing emails, et cetera. So
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: maybe this is the next step writing a strange first
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: opening sentence to an email, then hiring someone who don't
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: trust to act like they're going to kill you and
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: see what happens. Well, I think we answered the question, Kristen,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: and we've got two people to fall even more in
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: love with each other.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: Happy trails. Congratulations you guys, Well.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: We answered the question perfectly. I've got a new garbage can. Yeah,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: what more can I ask for?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: Three?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: Hundred and one. That's what you can ask for.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: We'll try to do at least one more episode here,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: uh hopefully hopefully more than maybe two or three more.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much energy do you do one
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: podcast as another Mel Robbins, one podcast at a time.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Just focus on the one you're in. You're going to
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: be at six hundred in no time, and I'm going
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: to be right next to you.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: You're going to be here and you're bringing don't I
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: hope you already? Because there are two different things.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Different things, and I know which one it's going to be,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: so you even if you remember one, you won't know
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: if that's what it's.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: This is an incredible thing. We've got to get through
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: these episodes quick. We're going to start doing three a day.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: You just have to have how many have you a
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: repeat guest? We have.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: A few. If somebody's a repeat guest, they've got to
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: be a good person.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of people.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: That's a lot of yeah, truly, just it's three hundred people.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: You know, it's a finding people.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Finding people is finding people.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: You don't see people that often. There aren't many of
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: them left.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: There are divine. Yeah, it's such a huge accomplishment to
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: have reached three hundred.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you, and thank you for being here. I'm
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: so glad you could be here on this one.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me and in Los Angeles too.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: We're really unbelievable.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: The city is better off having Elie Camper, oh both
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: of us. Oh maybe now it's like back to neutral
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: Very kind of you.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: Listener, the podcast is over this episode. At least, what
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: if that was the end of the podcast as we
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: know it? Uh no, this is the podcast is coming
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: to a close. I'm so glad we could do three
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: hundred episodes together, and I assume you've listened to every
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: single one of them. If you are just joining us today,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: I'm sure this is just impossible to tell how what's
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: going on, and it require so much context. You probably
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: had a horrible experience, and I'm sorry you should have
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: started at number one. That's how podcasts work. But thank
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: you for being here, and we'll just continue to move
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: into the future. I love you, goodbye, I said No
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann and
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: must follow the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: that's where you're going to see pictures of all these
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: the gifts? I invit?
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Did you hear? Funa man myself perfectly clear. When you're
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: And I said, no, goo, that's your own presences, presents enough.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how do you
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: dare to surbey me?