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Patriots Draft Countdown: Travis Hunter Film Breakdown, Top Prospects in the Secondary and Latest Mock Drafts · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: for another episode. Guys here with the latest news. Not
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  Speaker 4: a lot going on this week, but we're going to
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  Speaker 4: drill down a little bit on some mock drafts. And
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  Speaker 4: let's start off, Evan with the Pro Days.
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  Speaker 5: You were out BC.
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  Speaker 4: Earlier this week, checking it out, Update, Pro Day Update,
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  Speaker 4: love it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot going on right now with Pro Days. Really,
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  Speaker 3: this is when the big schools start to get in
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  Speaker 3: their Pro Days. Actually, as we're taping this, Mike Rabel
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  Speaker 3: is at Texas to check out Calvin Banks and Matthew
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  Speaker 3: Golden and Isaiah Bond and all the Longhorn talent. So
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  Speaker 3: he's at Boston College on Monday with yours truly, and
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  Speaker 3: then he got on a plane and went down to
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  Speaker 3: Texas and now he's in Texas today. So this is
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  Speaker 3: a big time of year to really get some FaceTime
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  Speaker 3: with some of these prospects.
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  Speaker 6: Mike, just to be clear, I don't think Mike Rabel
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  Speaker 6: was at BC's pro day to check out Evan.
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  Speaker 3: They both along with yours, they happened to both be there.
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  Speaker 3: Then I was also there.
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  Speaker 5: I want to make sure the viewers thank you for
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  Speaker 5: the clarification.
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  Speaker 4: Pologists were what were your takeaways though some obviously some
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  Speaker 4: players of interest maybe to the Patriots there PC.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Doug Maron, the Patriots offensive line coach, was pretty
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  Speaker 3: hands on with some of the stuff with Ozzie Trapilo's
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  Speaker 3: a third round, second third round tackle from Boston College.
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  Speaker 3: Offensive tackle, so he played on the right side mostly
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  Speaker 3: at BC, played a lot of right tackle, but he's
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  Speaker 3: been training with Dante Scarneckia. I might have heard of him,
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  Speaker 3: and they've been training on both sides, you know, left
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  Speaker 3: and right, And his path through a roster spot and
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  Speaker 3: just sticking in the league is probably swing tackle with
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  Speaker 3: maybe a ceiling of a starting right tackle. So he's
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  Speaker 3: trying to make it right now in that swing tackle
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  Speaker 3: role initially, so I can tell that he's working on everything.
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  Speaker 3: And Donovan Azaruko, their pass rusher, is kind of the
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  Speaker 3: big name. He didn't participate in the drills going he
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  Speaker 3: was at the Combine Senior Bowl. Has already done his
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  Speaker 3: thing for this circuit. But he's projected to go in
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  Speaker 3: the first round. Some people say it's early as top
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  Speaker 3: twenty potentially at sixteen and a half sacks last year
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  Speaker 3: at PC, so he's a very good player. A couple
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  Speaker 3: of linemen center Drew Kendall, there's a lot of lignemen
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  Speaker 3: at BC this time around. I would say that are
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  Speaker 3: interested across the league.
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  Speaker 6: That's the key takeaway there for BC. Not exactly a
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  Speaker 6: football hot bat up here. You know, in New England,
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  Speaker 6: we don't do college football the way you know certainly
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  Speaker 6: they do down South. But offensive line has been a
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  Speaker 6: very fruitful position for that program. They have a lot
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  Speaker 6: of good ones in the league and it sounds like
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  Speaker 6: they have at least one solid Day two prospect in
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  Speaker 6: Tapello and a lot of people like Drew Kendall as well.
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  Speaker 6: Like Kevin said, so do not sleep on the BC lineman.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was just a little bit more behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 3: Chris Linstrom was actually in attendance for the Pro Day
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  Speaker 3: and he had a long conversation with Mike Rabel. I
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  Speaker 3: believe Tyler Vrabel might have overlapped with Lindstrom at Boston College,
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  Speaker 3: so maybe he knew of Lindstrom already from that. But
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  Speaker 3: he's obviously one of those linemen that Paul's talking about
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  Speaker 3: in Atlanta's Fantastic Guard for the Falcons.
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  Speaker 4: So guys, let's move on here to You know, it
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  Speaker 4: seems like not a lot happens in the spring. We
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  Speaker 4: know the major events, the Combines, the Pro Days, but
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  Speaker 4: yet still there's like an up and down and Evan
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  Speaker 4: flowed to the mock draft season and who the Patriots
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  Speaker 4: might get. I came back from the Combine a couple
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  Speaker 4: of weeks ago and felt like, man, there's no way
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  Speaker 4: they're getting.
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  Speaker 5: Carter or Hunter. You know, tis now what kind of
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  Speaker 5: feels like?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, And I don't know what's changed nothing, but
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  Speaker 4: according to the mock drafts, maybe they have a chance
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  Speaker 4: to some of those guys. Is that positive development for
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  Speaker 4: the Patriots doesn't mean anything.
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  Speaker 7: I think the things that's changed in the past week
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  Speaker 7: is that the Titans are showing more interest than cam
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  Speaker 7: Ward and then Shader is wanting to go to New York,
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  Speaker 7: which means Travis Hunter or Carter is going to be there.
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  Speaker 7: Before you didn't know what the Browns were going to
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  Speaker 7: do or the Titans, So it just kind of is
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  Speaker 7: up in the ya. All the experts are saying something else,
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  Speaker 7: but it really feels like you can get Hunter or Carter.
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  Speaker 5: So Paul, like the question is, though.
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  Speaker 6: I'm starting to get excited about man, you don't even
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  Speaker 6: have to ask me the question, because I do think
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  Speaker 6: if there's an opportunity there that you can get one
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  Speaker 6: of those two guys, I think that's the dream scenario
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  Speaker 6: for the Patriots. Otherwise you're really putting a half dozen
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  Speaker 6: or so guys in a box and just saying which
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  Speaker 6: one do I prefer? Because I think the clear two
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  Speaker 6: top prospects are Carter and Hunter. If one of those
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  Speaker 6: two guys slips, and we're seeing a lot of mocks
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  Speaker 6: now that have the Patriots taking one of those two
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  Speaker 6: guys at.
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  Speaker 4: Four, let's talk to A good topic came up this
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  Speaker 4: week on Patriots on Filter that I thought we haven't
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  Speaker 4: really considered, and that is, if Carter Hunter were there,
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  Speaker 4: did the Patriots consider trading down it was you know,
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  Speaker 4: someone called in had a question.
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  Speaker 5: Evan.
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  Speaker 4: I thought you had a great response because initially I said, well,
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  Speaker 4: if you have two potentially transcendent players, you gotta take one.
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  Speaker 4: But as you laid out, maybe there's a package that
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  Speaker 4: could make sense for the Patriots to trade down even
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  Speaker 4: if they are there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't fault them if they took either player,
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  Speaker 3: hold it against them one bit. I would not trade
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  Speaker 3: out of the Travis Hunter pick. If Travis Hunter is there,
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  Speaker 3: I think their need at wide receiver coupled with his
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  Speaker 3: talent is just so overwhelmingly positive to make him the pick.
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  Speaker 3: With Abdul Carter, I love the player, Abdul card has
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  Speaker 3: nothing to do with his talent, but it feels a
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  Speaker 3: little bit like the cherry on top of a good
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  Speaker 3: offseason for the defense and the offense is really gonna
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  Speaker 3: be shorthanded. I just don't see how you come out
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  Speaker 3: of this draft where they starting caliber left tackle and
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  Speaker 3: a receiver that can make an impact if you're not
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  Speaker 3: using your top pick on one of those two positions.
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  Speaker 3: So I look at the trade down scenario that the
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  Speaker 3: Texans got, for example, for Will Anderson, or the Texans
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  Speaker 3: used to get Will Anderson with the Arizona pick they
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  Speaker 3: traded to the Cardinals move up nine spots in that draft.
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  Speaker 3: They gave up a second round pick and a future
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  Speaker 3: first round pick to move up those nine spots. If
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  Speaker 3: you're the Patriots in Chicago, calls who has two second
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  Speaker 3: round picks in this draft, and they offer you their
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  Speaker 3: second round pick and their twenty twenty six first round
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  Speaker 3: pick to go from four to ten, do you consider that?
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  Speaker 3: If you say no, then that's totally fair. But if
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  Speaker 3: it's Carter alone on the board and that's a package
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  Speaker 3: that comes across your desk, I think you have to
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  Speaker 3: consider it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think, Paul about trading down?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, And here's the thing. Do you feel like Carter
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  Speaker 6: and Hunter are just head and shoulders the best players
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  Speaker 6: in this draft? Or do you think that they're special
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  Speaker 6: players in any draft? And I think that's a distinction
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  Speaker 6: that needs to be made. My gut reaction would be
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  Speaker 6: to take Carter if I had my choice of anybody
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  Speaker 6: in this draft. I think he's going to be a
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  Speaker 6: special player. I think that those athletic edge guys are
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  Speaker 6: very important and they're worthy of taking in the top five.
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  Speaker 6: But when Evan started talking about it during the week
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  Speaker 6: when we talked on Patriots Unfiltered. He makes a compelling
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  Speaker 6: argument that if you can add a second round pick,
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  Speaker 6: and all of a sudden you have those extra picks
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  Speaker 6: in Day two, and then you add a future first
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  Speaker 6: round pick. I've never really considered the idea of a
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  Speaker 6: trade down that involved the team trading up being able
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  Speaker 6: to draft either Carter or a Hunter, and so I
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  Speaker 6: have automatically diminished the value of that trade. Well, it
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  Speaker 6: was one of those two guys is available, you might
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  Speaker 6: be able to get what Evan's talking about.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you think?
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  Speaker 4: I know you and Chris have kicked around some trade scenarios.
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  Speaker 7: I think I think you take Hunter Carter's option one
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  Speaker 7: A one B there. On the mock draft simulator we're
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  Speaker 7: using a lot of the trades aren't really including future
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  Speaker 7: first round pick. So if you can get a next
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  Speaker 7: year pick and swap this year and get a second maybe,
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  Speaker 7: but I think it's just a little risky and you
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  Speaker 7: can get the blue chip prospect there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not doing it unless that first round pick
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  Speaker 3: is involved. The future first round pick I should say too,
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  Speaker 3: if it's if there's no twenty twenty six first round pick.
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  Speaker 3: Then I'm taking the player and happily taking the player.
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  Speaker 3: I just this team has a lot of holes, specifically
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  Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the ball, and if you
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  Speaker 3: keep hammering high assets on defense, you're gonna have all
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  Speaker 3: your free agency money spent on defense. You're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: the fourth overall pick spent on defense. At some point,
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  Speaker 3: you got to give Drake Mason hell on the offense
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  Speaker 3: side of the ball.
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  Speaker 7: What's up, everybody, We're back again for the mock draft
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  Speaker 7: segment of the Patriots Draft.
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  Speaker 5: Count On podcast presented by Bud Light Chris.
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  Speaker 7: We were just talking about latest news and Paul and
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  Speaker 7: Duce brought up a good point that the Patriots, now
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  Speaker 7: there's some potential trade scenarios because as we've heard cam Ward,
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  Speaker 7: the Titans are showing more interest. Shoulder might go to
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  Speaker 7: the Giants. So if those two go, that means Hunter
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  Speaker 7: and orc Harder are going to be available.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So that being said, like if you're a team and
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  Speaker 7: you could trade you know, one and next year's one
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  Speaker 7: and a two, like the Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: Could maybe do that, I think so.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, But that being said, we both I don't want
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  Speaker 7: to trade I want to take one of the players.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so definitely, we both have talked about that ahead
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  Speaker 1: of this show, and I think you know, the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: are in a really good spot. Yes, they have picks
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  Speaker 1: to leverage trade scenarios. For example, I mean talking about
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  Speaker 1: Brandon I you somehow still available this year, second year
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  Speaker 1: in a Rowers name's flowing around if you want to
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  Speaker 1: maybe use one of those thirds, maybe second if he's
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  Speaker 1: worth it, try to work that into a package for
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk. But you know, there's all there's a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot of scenarios you can break down. But I know
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  Speaker 1: for me and you, we'd like to just let them,
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  Speaker 1: let them have a natural.
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  Speaker 5: Draft, Okay.
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  Speaker 7: And guys, so that being said, we're gonna do a
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  Speaker 7: three round mock, and that means we have four picks. Yea,
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  Speaker 7: four picks. So Chris, I'll let you do your your four,
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  Speaker 7: then I'll do my.
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  Speaker 5: We'll discuss.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Chris Cassid mock Draft one.
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  Speaker 1: Point oh one four Travis Hunter, Gay Travis Hunter, second
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  Speaker 1: round pick, Ariante ERSI the tackle at of Minnesota, first
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  Speaker 1: pick of round three.
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  Speaker 2: Uh j T.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try my best on this one. Two Moloau
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  Speaker 1: and the third round seventy seventh overall pick Isaiah Bond
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  Speaker 1: from Texas. The receiver also played at Alabama in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: But those are my Those are.
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  Speaker 1: My four guys off the board for the Patriots in
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  Speaker 1: rounds one through three.
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  Speaker 5: Cool.
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  Speaker 7: And so that being said, Chris, like a lot happens,
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  Speaker 7: we use out mock draft database, and so when I
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  Speaker 7: did mine, I just want to announce the first three picks,
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  Speaker 7: which was cam Ward Shader Sanders and righty for this
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  Speaker 7: Jalen Milroe. So that love Hunter and Carter on the board.
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  Speaker 2: Sneaky. There might be better quarterbacks, but.
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  Speaker 7: It was just interesting. Look at Thatbby said. I took
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  Speaker 7: Carter at the number four pick, Penn State edge rusher.
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  Speaker 7: Patriots need that. That's a potentially generational edge rusher. In
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  Speaker 7: the second round, this is where it gets interesting. I
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  Speaker 7: took Trey Amos from Ole, miss who I mentioned in
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  Speaker 7: last week's episode. Just hitting the corner there, because you
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  Speaker 7: know you miss it with Hunter. With the third round
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  Speaker 7: pick Wyatt Millum, offensive tackle from West Virginia, YEP. And
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  Speaker 7: then the third the third third round pick is Jane
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  Speaker 7: Higgins from Iowa State. So, as Evan Lazari has said,
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  Speaker 7: this needs to be a fairway draft for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: You get your edge rusher, cornerback.
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  Speaker 7: I know we just signed Carlton Davis, but you know
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  Speaker 7: you can always find space for those guys there.
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  Speaker 2: It needs to be a heavy need draft.
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  Speaker 5: YEP.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it has to.
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  Speaker 1: Be for the Patriots this year and again starting with
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  Speaker 1: my first overall pick at Travis Hunter. I know you
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  Speaker 1: have Abdual Carter, so it's good that we got to
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  Speaker 1: have both of those, the both of those topics. But
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  Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, I mean the wide receiver numbers that he
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  Speaker 1: put up this past year at Colorado, we're just absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 1: Like for him to go out there, he had fifteen
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns over twelve hundred, twelve hundred yards and ninety six receptions.
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  Speaker 1: Ninety six receptions like that, that is an insane number.
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  Speaker 1: He's your primary target, shooter is primary target obviously, but
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  Speaker 1: like someone putting up those numbers and then going to
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  Speaker 1: play defensive back and I having four interceptions and I
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  Speaker 1: think it was eleven pass deflections this year, like like
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  Speaker 1: that's it's so impressive to me that someone could do
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  Speaker 1: that on both sides of the ball, Like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how you can't go with best available. So if
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  Speaker 1: a duel Carter and Travis Hunter somehow are both on
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  Speaker 1: the board in that situation, like I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: you choose, you know what I mean, But for me,
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  Speaker 1: it would be trying.
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  Speaker 5: Like I said, it's option one, A, one B.
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  Speaker 7: The cornerback situation for Trey Amos, like that is just
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  Speaker 7: he jumped to the sec he was with the raging
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  Speaker 7: Cajuns in Louisiana then he went to Bama. I just
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  Speaker 7: with the way the mock was working and the board was,
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  Speaker 7: that was what I thought was the best player on
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  Speaker 7: the board. They also had Josh Simmons from Ohio State,
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  Speaker 7: who he just blew out his knee last year, and
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  Speaker 7: so I think it's just a bit risky to use
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  Speaker 7: that high second round pick on a player that might
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  Speaker 7: not be ready yet. So that's why I went for
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  Speaker 7: the tackle In the third round. Wyatt Milan played a
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  Speaker 7: bit of right tackle, bit of left and like, let's
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: If he's gonna be a Day one guy, but he
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  Speaker 5: was the best tackle.
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  Speaker 1: But what's good with Milan for your first third round pick?
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  Speaker 1: I mean he really did play primarily at left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what the Patriots need to fill. And for me,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I have it going a little bit earlier.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a much more important position. The need
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  Speaker 1: to get a little bit higher up, especially in the
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  Speaker 1: second round, if you're not going to go in the
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  Speaker 1: first round with a tackle. I think arianta Ursie. I
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  Speaker 1: mean he's a stud. He played his last thirty eight
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  Speaker 1: games of his career at Minnesota at left tackle. He
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  Speaker 1: knows the position. He's six six, he's like three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty pounds, he's earth three hundred and fifteen pounds.
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  Speaker 1: Are a big boy, yeah, And I mean he's got
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  Speaker 1: good quickness, good Agility's kind of get off the edge.
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  Speaker 2: You need.
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  Speaker 1: You need someone to protect your quarterback. You need someone
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  Speaker 1: to protect Drake May. You got Morgan Moses on the
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  Speaker 1: other side, Ursery on the other on the left.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So let's get to the receivers. You had Isaiah Bond,
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  Speaker 7: I had Higgins. Now, Chris, I'm gonna say, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 7: not giving up hope on the current Patriots receivers yet.
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  Speaker 7: No Polk, it was only his first year. Last year
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  Speaker 7: could have been an anomaly Stefan Diggs, He's visited. Like, listen,
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  Speaker 7: if if I don't think we need the receiver that
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  Speaker 7: high unless it's Travis Hunter. Other than that, Like, I'm
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  Speaker 7: fine with giving these guys another chance because at the
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  Speaker 7: end of the day, it's not gonna be a one
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  Speaker 7: year fix. Yes, you want to you want to see progression.
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  Speaker 7: If you if you hit on somebody in the fourth
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  Speaker 7: round like a Higgins are a Bond, awesome, But I
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  Speaker 7: don't think if it's not Carter, it doesn't need to
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  Speaker 7: be that high.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, for me, the appeal for Isaiah Bond.
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  Speaker 1: He was kind of in the shadows of Matthew Golden
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  Speaker 1: this past year Texas Matthew going almost a thousand yard receiver,
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  Speaker 1: had nine touchdowns over there for the Longhorns. You know,
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  Speaker 1: at Alabama, he was behind Jermaine Burton now currently at
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  Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. But he's a guy, he's versatile. He
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  Speaker 1: had almost I think seven undred yards from scrimmagers, but
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  Speaker 1: I think it six d and forty one yards of scrimmages.
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  Speaker 2: Past year.
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  Speaker 1: He ran the ball multiple times, multiple touchdowns rushing. He
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  Speaker 1: had six touchdowns receiving this year.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the Patriots sort of have that type of versatility.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Five eleven.
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  Speaker 1: He's a little bit short, but he's got burner speed,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: pop Douglas esque body build. But you could throw him
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: on the outside and he could be effective. You know,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: he has that four three nine forty yard dash speed,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: that burner mentality, you know, just down the sideline, hit
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: and pair deep all soo, you.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Know he has all the factors to be a wide
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: receiver that it can show plenty of production in the NFL.
• 14:58
  Speaker 7: Ye, No, it's it's listening you just fourth round is
• 15:02
  Speaker 7: the meat of the draft. You want ahead of these guys.
• 15:04
  Speaker 7: They need to be productive and that's all that matters.
• 15:06
  Speaker 7: But Chris, I'd be good with either of these mocks.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely absolutely, And I didn't. I want to touch
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: on j T Again'm gonna try it again tooy Moloau.
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  Speaker 1: You know, all first seem big tens past year for
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Ohio State obviously national champion, just absolutely sod twelve and
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: a half sacks this past year. B Sofie, she's a
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: big fella, but he ran a four to six two
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: at the combine this past season. All right, this draft
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: combine like with speed like that at two hundred and
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: sixty nine pounds.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: You're ere quick, yeah, and you.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Got to get to the quarterback and the Patriots need that.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: They have Harold Landry, they have Kelon White, they have
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Afony Jennings, but I think you need a true edge
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: rusher and I think Tooy Molao moloau got it is
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: one of those types of players.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: And Chrissy can't teach speed.
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: But guys, thank you for tuning into this segment of
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: the Draft Countdown podcast. With the mock draft segment. We
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: got Evan lazar next doing a position, so guys, we'll
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: get to that.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: What's up, everybody, It's Evan Lazarre. Welcome back into the
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Patriots Draft Countdown film room.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Today.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the cornerbacks, not necessarily a
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: major position to need for the Patriots after free agency,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: but you all know why we're talking about the cornerbacks.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: It's this guy right here right, Travis Hunter, the Heisman
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Trophy winner. We're going to get to him in a second,
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  Speaker 3: but I do want to talk about some of the
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: other guys in this class that I really like. Will
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Johnson's the other blue chip prospect, if you will, out
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: of Michigan really good National Championship season, some injuries last year.
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  Speaker 3: Jiehati Bearn two from Texas, one of my favorite players
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  Speaker 3: in this class.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: But let's talk about.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: That number one guy right there, Travis Hunter. We know
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: he plays both ways. You can see him down here
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  Speaker 3: at the bottom of the screen against the Torah McMillan
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: from Arizona, and he's just going to run the route
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: for Teed McMillan here in press coverage, and you see
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: how smooth he is off the line of scrimmage, his
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: change of direction, his ability and those ball skills to
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: get his.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Hand in there.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: That is how he can play manta man at a
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: high level. Up here at the top of the screen, though,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: we're going to play a bail technique, So he's just
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: going to drop off the line here into a Cover
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: three or a quarters zone and watch the ball skills,
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  Speaker 3: watch the explosiveness in the jump to knock that pass
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: away on the vertical route. And then the last one
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  Speaker 3: here is the highlight of his season. I would say,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: probably one of the best interceptions you'll ever see in
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: college football. So he's going to play the flat in
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: cover two. Now, the safety is deep safety deep right here,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: and as we roll this play, he's just going to
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: midpoint the deep receiver and the underneath receiver. If we
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: can pause it right here, you can see him just
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: kind of eyeing the quarterback right now in the backfield
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: right where is he going to throw this football and
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: watch this break on the ball. I mean, that's just silly.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: That's just ridiculous. Explosiveness. Clicking clothes interception there by Travis Hunter.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: That's why everybody is just going crazy about him as
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: a cornerback prospect. Ball skills, ballhwking traits, explosiveness, man to
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: man coverage ability, great feel for zone coverage. He's just
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: got at that position. A couple of other guys here
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: to just talk about. Maybe closer to Day two, I
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: think mid first round for Jahati Baron, who's just an
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: absolute dog. I mean, this guy plays the nickel. Reminds
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: me a lot of Brian Branch in Detroit. Just scrappy,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: willing to put his face in there and get his
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: nose dirty in the run game. Really good covered corner
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: as well if you want to play him in the side.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: And Azure Thomas from Florida State. Right here at the
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  Speaker 3: bottom of the screen. The Patriots are going to target
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: a middle round cornerback. I think Thomas is going to
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: be on their board. Long, strappy man, coverage corner that
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: can do everything the Patriots are going to ask their
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: cornerbacks to do. So those are the cornerbacks. Obviously, Travis
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Hunter is the big one there at the top, but
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: a couple of other names to watch for in the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: top ten as well, and Will Johnson and Jahati Barry.
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  Speaker 3: That's your cornerback breakdown on this episode of Patriots Draft Countdown.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I'm Evan Lazar.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: All right, we're talking safeties and cornerbacks here, not positions
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: of huge need for the Patriots that could run down.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: They're both those position groups guys, but much everybody's coming back.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I would say there are maybe some questions in the slot.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: We've talked a little bit about that. Marcus Jones has
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: been there, had some injury issues. Isaiah Bolden's got some
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: size they have, We've talked about him.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: But overall we started you have just what do you.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: See the needs at cornerback? Safety?
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Right now?
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  Speaker 3: Safety, I would just say that true center fielder, like
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: can they get it, doesn't necessarily need to be a
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: guy that's gonna play every snap, but even just that
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Deron Harmon roll of on third downs obvious passing situations
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: free up Kyle Duggar and potentially Jabriel Peppers to play
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: closer to the line of scrimmage or in the box
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: at their natural position. So I remember talking to Devin
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: mccordy over the years and him just saying that they
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: all kind of had their homes when it was him
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: and Chung and Deron Harmon up top on third and
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: eight with the game on the line, everybody knew where
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: they were going to be at and what their roles were.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: So to make this safety group fit together a little
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: bit better, I think they could maybe target a centerfielder.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: What do you think about our cornerbacks, Chris, I know
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Carlton Davis big piece there.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: That they Yeah, yeah, they brought it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Just brought in Carlton Davis. So obviously have that one
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: two punch Gonzo Carlton on each side.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously you have the big guys, Travis Hunter. Obviously we
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: can get in him if you wanted to.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well let's jump right into it, Chris, I mean
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: you mentioned Travis Hunter. I mean, look, he's also you
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: might make an appearance on the wide receiver list that
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: would go to well special but yeah, that's and that's
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: the whole appeal. And I think a lot of the
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: recent mock drafts, which I know you guys are heavy into,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: it seems like maybe they have a chance at Travis Hunter.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: And really the question comes down to Chris is is
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: he a cornerback?
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Is he a wide receiver?
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: And if he is a cornerback, where does he play right?
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I think that's something you have to really gauge.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have fifteen touchdowns as wide receiver this
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: past year, like over twelve hundred receiving yards in twelve games.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Like that's crazy.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: So the fact that you have that much versatility you
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: could play both sides of the ball. I was talking
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to Tease about this on the on the previous podcast.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: You know, Travis Hunter, he's a guy like I really
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: personally would rather focus more on the wide receiver spot
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and keep improving there and try to use him in
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: some some sort of nickel package or maybe a dime
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: like try to work him into the into more heavier
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: defensive back roles. I mean, he has so much potential
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and I think he can play both the ball. You
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: just have to use him correctly.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think.
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  Speaker 7: No, I agree with Chris, I'd rather him play wide receiver.
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: But with Carlton Davis joining the team, I think like
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: cornerback's a bit more set right now, so you could
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: use him in some packages there. That being said, a
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: lot of the experts are saying the opposite. We're using
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: them on defense and throw them in some packages and offense.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: So yeah, we've we've talked about that. I mean, I
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: threw on my crazy just months my crazy, you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: like just play him third down. So I know it's crazy, But.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: What have you see from from Hunter?
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not crazy to try to find ways. It's
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: obviously probably a little bit easier to have him play
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: full time corner and then moonlight on offense than it
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: is to do the other direction, just from a preparation standpoint,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Like we've seen Marcus Jones and Spurts do that, right,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: So there's guys that have done it at probably a
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: little bit of a higher level than doing it the
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: other direction. But I think with Hunter and terms of
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: his talent, it's really one of the best cornerback prospects
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I've seen in my time covering the draft, just all around,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: can pretty much do everything. I think his ball skills
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: or really his instincts and his ball hawking ability or
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: probably his best traits. You put him in zone coverages,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: put him in the flat corner spot, and he has
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: that ability to click and close and just close on
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: the football and intercept passes and really make game changing plays.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: So after they've signed Carlon Davis, it doesn't feel like
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: that's the direction they would go in. But I have thought,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you know, in my dreams about Christian Gonzales on one
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: side on the boundary, I'm going to take this guy
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: man to man, and then you have Travis Hunter on
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: the other side, ball hawking and just reading the quarterback
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: and having eyes in the backfield. It's a really intriguing thing.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: But I think what I.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Come back to with Hunter is you can feed him
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: the rock on offense and he can impact the game
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: by touching the ball eight, nine, ten times a game
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: on offense, and he might have one chance on defense
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: to really get his hands on the football. And when
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: you watch him play his game breaking speed in the
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: open field, it's like, how do you not get that
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: guy the ball as much as possible? So that's where
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I come back to with corner is just is it
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: really gonna move the needle as much as him playing
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: wide receiver.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's move down the list a little bit and
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: we'll kind of group these guys together.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I don't need to delineate them.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: We'll be kind of like the Patriots coaching staff, We're
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: gonna just prefer we're all defensive backs here. But John
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Ay Barron from Texas, Will Johnson from Michigan probably the
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: next two guys up on the list, certainly probably first
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: half of the first round.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Good players.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is just not a huge need for
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: the Patriots. So at this point we're just we're watching
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: for fun, right.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Chris, Yeah, I would say so.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I mean those I mean Will Johnson obviously knows how
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to win one in Michigan won national championship. I mean
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: his again, his ability to close on the football really impressive.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, kind of that one, two
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: three is Barrett Johnson Hunter.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I would say next year for me, I would probably
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: put at least if the Patriots.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Were gonna look outside the box at the cornerback, maybe
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: late round draft. Denzel Burke I really like a lot
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: out of Ohio State. Obviously, you know, third team All
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Big Tens. Past year kind of regressed a little bit.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: It was a little bit better in twenty twenty three,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: second team All American. But you know he has a
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: lot of promise. He had forty eight total tackles this season.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: We really close out on the football. Same like Jacob
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Parrish is another guy fifty total tackles this year.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I mean he's quick.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: He had three pass deflections against the Scinnati, just absolutely
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: dominated that game. So I mean they need a guy
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: that can get downhill and also gonna make.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: The plays outside. So I think that's really important.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it give you some guys teas.
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: I really like Trey Amos from Mississippi made the jump
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: to the SEC. Thirteen pass breakups, fifty tackles. And it
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: gets interesting because say, if the Patriots take Carter, Like,
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: you know, our receiver room's pretty jammed right now, so
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: do you maybe make a high pick at another corner
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: and try to lock up the secondary. I also like
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: some later round Oh you mentioned Denzel Burke too, but
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: some later round guys are really like Jalen Hylott Hyatt.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: He's US seed, very versatile, plays nickel safety corner. It
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: might be a good late round fine for the pageots there.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: You guys have been watching some film. I think you
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: know you mentioned Will Johnson and just really quickly on him.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: When I made my list of potential guys at four
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: overall way back in January and started watching the top
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: of the draft, Will Johnson was on the list. I mean,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: he is a blue chip prospect in a lot of ways.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Had a down year last year, coming with an injury
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: coming off the National Championship game, but with guys like that,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I tend to think he had nothing left to prove
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: at the college football level and just kind of had
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: to go back to school because he was an underclassman
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: and didn't have a choice. So last year was almost
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: like a last year for him in a lot of ways,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: and so I understand that it wasn't quite as good.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: But you go back to the year prior and you
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: watch him, you know, go toe to toe with Romadoonze
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: in the National Championship Game, and you watch him, you know,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: cover some of the best receivers in college football, extremely
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: high level. I don't know if I would put this
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: guy in this air as you know easily as some others,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: but he does get some Patrick Surtan comparisons. You know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: just extremely natural, fluid, smooth athlete that just looks like
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: a corner like you just you look at him, kind
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: of like Gonzo and you're just like, that's that's an
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: elite cornerback, right, That's how I would describe Will Johnson.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: You mentioned Jahati Baron, who I think is a really
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: interesting player. I love me some Jahati Baron. Brian Branch
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: two point zero, scrappy plays Nickel, plays the safety position,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: can play man to man, but has a nose for
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the football, great instincts, not afraid to make tackles in
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the run game. He is a very very good player.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: He's probably going to go top twenty, top twenty five.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if the Patriots are necessarily going
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: to be in that category. But those are kind of
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: the Day one guys. I wouldn't say there's a ton
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: of Day one corners in this class. It's kind of
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: those three dudes. But then you get to the top
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: of the second round is when you get to you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: the size, speed guys like Maxwell Harriston and Darien Porter,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: maybe Bullio a little later. Yeah, Zion Thomas, Yeah, he
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: was at he was at the Senior Bowl and very
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: you know, strappy, kind of feisty man coverage corner, so
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: he would fit the bill for the Patriots as well.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: High character guy too. I just wanted to throw in
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Sebastian Castro from Iowa, who's you know, lower round guy,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of safety de beat but slot guy,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: but just a guy plays with his hair on fire.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: He's just one of those aggressive guys in the slot.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Really liked the one thing that stood out to me.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: He was ten and a half inch hands for like
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: a cornerback, which is just to me, he's just you know,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: a bunch of it's a bunch of bananas, you know.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: But when you talk about you know what guys could
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: kind of fit, you know, like that's a role where
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: you need some steadiness in the slot, you need some aggressiveness.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: He seems like his play temperament kind of kind of
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: fits Mike Rabel's style.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: Also is Jalen Smith by the way from USCA. I
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: believe it's at high But also another guy like is
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: Kobe Bryant. Oh, I got Kobe Bryan on nickel corner
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: and very feisty as well. Jack Jones, Yeah, exactly scary,
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: good comp loose cannon maybe, but you need that, you
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: need that, you know, i'd.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Say honor to mention too. Is Schevon Revel from East
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Carolina a good one.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: He's went down with the injury in September this past year,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: of course toward the UCL But you know, he's quick,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: He's six three. I mean, he's got the height you
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: can cover really anyone on the outside. You know, like
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: that's really appealing for a long to me.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I watched him and he got a lot of credit
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: for staying at East Carolina, right, you know, sticking with
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: that program. Probably could have left and gone somewhere else.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Injuries set him back, but you know, certainly could have
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: been probably much much higher draft pick. He's one of
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: those guys where maybe an unknown commodity as you as
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: you make a selection.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I him and like Ben Morrison from Notre Dame
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: or kind of in the same tier. I would say,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: right in like the twenty to forty range, depending on
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the injury. Obviously with Rebel, but I he would have
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: been a first round pick if he didn't get hurt.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Absolutly. Yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Well let's let's wrap things up with a you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: a couple of safeties here. Nick Monta Worry from from
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: South Carolina and probably the best safety on the board
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: all around kind of guy. And Malachi Starks is another
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  Speaker 4: one three year starter at Georgia. We know defense, you
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  Speaker 4: can't get enough of them or guys, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think those two guys probably can census top of
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  Speaker 4: the board for safety.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have Malchi starts with the number one safety
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  Speaker 3: in the class. I just I'm gonna trust the tape
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  Speaker 3: with him. I know he didn't have a great combine,
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  Speaker 3: but he is a football player, you know, instinctive, natural
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  Speaker 3: football player, can play pretty much every safety spot that
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  Speaker 3: you would want him to play, very very good against
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  Speaker 3: the run, but also can play deep, can play probably
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't put him in the post, but like can play
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  Speaker 3: split suit field coverages and things like that. But I
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: just love his ball instincts and just his overall feel
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  Speaker 3: for the game. I think he's always around the football.
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  Speaker 3: Fun player to watch on tape. And you know, I
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: see a little bit of Jamal Adams with Nick. Can
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: you pronounce the last name for him and Worry? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think close enough. Yeah, you know, like like I
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: don't know if he plays the way he tested, Like
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  Speaker 3: he tested like an absolute superhero at the Combine. But
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I see the play speed like
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  Speaker 3: that on the tape, Like there's a little bit of
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Kyle Duggart to him. There's a little bit of Jamal
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  Speaker 3: Adams to him, you know, like probably a box safety
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  Speaker 3: that's gonna play like, you know, pseudo linebacker slashing the slot.
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  Speaker 3: So I like him, but I didn't necessarily I was, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, really surprised by how well he tested at
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: the Combine. I didn't necessarily think he was that athletic.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, anybody else you guys got that we might have
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  Speaker 4: missed that you particularly liked.
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  Speaker 5: I like Kevin Winston from Penn State. That's a great one.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't even bring him for this thing, but.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was gonna be your guy.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I just I forgot to put him on
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  Speaker 4: my little shortlist. Thanks for presence there kind of ball
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  Speaker 4: last year leadership. You know, just think he's another guy
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  Speaker 4: that way behind.
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  Speaker 7: I think a big thing is I think the current
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: safety is of Patriots have me to bounce back a little,
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: which kind of lowers the safety prospects for me.
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  Speaker 5: But that's the guy that stands out to me.
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  Speaker 1: For me, I would say the same position Malachai Moore Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, really prototypical coverage guy. I mean he's all
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: around the ball. You can kind of sit back there,
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  Speaker 1: cover two, cover three, however you want him. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's a really solid safety in this class and curious
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  Speaker 1: what the pad up doing.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, that.
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  Speaker 4: Spot well weird needs, you know. They just like I
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: could see them taking some of these guys that could
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  Speaker 4: also see them just bypassing both these positions and kind
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: of rolling what they have.
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  Speaker 7: I think the pick, if it's between Travis Ard and
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: Abdol Carter affects this whole group.
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  Speaker 5: Are Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just name a few more safeties just so
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: we get them in there. Because you mentioned mal Chai
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Moore is kind of like the Day three guy of
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: this version. Andrew mccuba from Texas is kind of the
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Day two free safety. Uh. He's got great ball skills,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: great instincts, can play up top. He's a true free safety,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: really good playmaker on the football. Then you go to
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Billy Bowman from Oklahoma, who's kind of like the third
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: fourth round guy that fits that role. And then you
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: get to Malachai Moore probably fifth, sixth round or somewhere
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  Speaker 3: around there on Day three. So those are if you're
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: looking for that Deron Harmon, like mccooba is probably a
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: little bit better than that, Like he's probably going to
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: be a starting safety in the NFL, getting a lot
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: of buzz lately, But if you're looking for that type
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: of player, I would say those are sort of your
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: three tiers of that from days you know, two to four,
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  Speaker 3: three there at the end of the draft.
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  Speaker 4: All right, well that's going to do it for the
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: defensive backs as well. As this episode of Patriots Draft Countdown,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: we'll be back next week with another episode, pre dowing
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: the entire draft.