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ABJ Podcast Ep 26 Philly Mike Swanson · ABJ

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high-tension baby. We'll have two brains, I don't
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know, maybe answer has a little more anyway, but so, let's get
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into first little business. Also, the links below for my
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guests actually twice in the links for my guests, because
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there's a lot of things going on with him.
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That we'll be talking about, as well as if you need something to
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do this weekend. You can see my guests as well as
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a dean of Steel at the night of Steel.
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A beneficial for Dino Steel in Philly, Mike Swanson Saturday
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February 11th at the falcon's nest 403 Hudson Street Mayfield
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Pennsylvania doors at six bells. Time 7:30 front row, I believe
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is sold out General Mission still available.
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Tons of great man's on this card and a great great way to support
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a great cause and help these two independent towns out who who
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are on the Shelf, currently the next week.
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And after that, February 18th, this show is sold out.
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So you cannot get tickets for follow on social media, so you
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can get all out of all that access for the next show, but I
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wa Jersey. Anarchy rulz, then the weekend,
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after that will be ssw. Zero gravity at the No Limits
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boxing Academy in Rio Grande, New Jersey and Then we have some
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fun shows in March once again, Philly, Mike Swanson Dina steel
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for Uncle Massey's 40th birthday Bonanza.
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That's going to be in through Pennsylvania, March 5th and then
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the high tension spring break 93, they couldn't get a VJ, so
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that got a bj, a BJ hosting, your spring break 93, Saturday,
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March 18 2003, 23 right by the 2300 Arena.
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So if you want to go check out icons, you can.
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And then once you leave icons for the Bent.
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You can walk a couple blocks over to this venue.
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See some great wrestling doors. The Bell starts at 4:00 we'll
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get you out of there in time that you can walk back a couple
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blocks and head back to icons and check out to wrestling
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shows. In one day, you can make it the
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Filly Extravaganza. We're calling it.
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The Philly special. It's going to be a great way to
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enjoy wrestling that day in Philadelphia Pennsylvania.
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So, without further Ado, let's bring in my guess, he's taking a
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little sippy there. Some C4.
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Let's bring in the guy. He's the game.
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Game Changer a professional wrestling, no one likes him and
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he don't care. Philly, Mike Swanson, what's
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going on? Yo yo, oh yeah.
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What's up Mike? Mike and yeah, I was just gonna
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put you over. I was like listen guys.
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Usually you'd be sitting here. I got my are pods in or
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something but the sweet setup I got.
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Look I got headphones on. I got this sick Mike this is the
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this is also thanks to a BJ. Anthony Blackwell, Junior hooked
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me up with this stuff to do some podcasts.
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The first one, I'm hitting the wood is his own.
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So exactly he's in really I was part of the deal, it's part of
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the deal. He's like you can only have my
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equipment but I have to be the first one.
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Hopefully he joins us soon on on those conversations and episodes
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of me and Brian as well very soon.
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Yeah a lot of free time. Yeah, he's on the Shelf a little
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bit. Well, let's start there.
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So you don't cure need at some point.
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Who knows? Is long?
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Journey may be in this corner of, okay, year as far as I I
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know it's a, it happened in the summer of 2018 and imagine.
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Yes, 2018, that was like a different world, right?
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There was a whole different world at that time GTS
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wrestling. Where I started?
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Well, I'm sure we'll get into that, but I was having a match
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and I decided it was a wonderful great, like, super cool idea to
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do an apron curb stomp, because I get the time I finished was
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the curb stomp. So I was like, yo, what am I
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like had them dry And over the ropes and like his head and I
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just like, ran jump up on the apron curb, stomp them and land
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on the floor. Cool.
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Right. Until I land, my only my left
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leg decided it wanted to land on the floor and all that way is
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like I was a little little bit heavier back.
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Then all that weight decided, the fact crack out and Bam,
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there goes the left knee. You can see Grim slows it down
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slow mode. It's clear as day.
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Like he calls the week at the time we were like, oh yeah,
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hyper-extended it's fine. But, looking back at it, for
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years ago, basically, Coming up on five.
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I definitely tore my goddamn ACL and was just like, let me get
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like, 10 minutes and I'll be good and we took it like GTS,
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you can take cuts and breaks into matches, whatever and me
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being a determined little dude, who just a year in the business
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was like I got this dude, I gotta make it.
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I gotta make a name for myself, here we go.
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So I got back in there, we finished the match.
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I actually I re-watched a match recently.
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I blow it out again. A second point.
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The match and like, it's and I just fall down and Grim just
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like, all right, like, you gotta stop.
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I'm just like, no. Like I got this.
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I'm probably NCL the second time, exactly.
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Yeah. And he's like, he's like, why,
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why do you? I'm like, I got this.
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And I think I was away for maybe a month or so, maybe two months
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after that, I was just like, all right, like my knees like
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tripled in size, let me just wait till it goes down, and I'll
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be all right. I went to the hospital and they
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got there. Gave me an x-ray but nothing was
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broken. So, nothing came back.
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I needed the MRI didn't, get the MRI.
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And yeah, I just kept going. And I was saying that you walk
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in your, like, I blew my knee out there.
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Like, let's do an x-ray. I don't have insurance.
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That's the issue. I don't have insurance so they
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don't give a shit about me. They're like, listen, dude.
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Like this kid probably won't even be able to pay his bills,
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so give him whatever he wants. The X-ray will give him the
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extra. Sounds like I'm fine.
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Whatever, we'll work through it. I'll buy a knee brace.
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That's what I see wrestlers do. Right?
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It'll buy a knee. Brace will be cool.
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It'll be awesome. I was back.
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I was killing it until like random matches here and there
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over the span of four years, my knee would blow out, but it's
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cool. I would get back out.
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And yeah, eventually it just kept on happening and I'm like,
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all right, this is not something that's going to heal itself.
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Let's suck it up. Up finally got insurance like a
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grown-up. So we made that decision and
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then went and got the MRI and the wonderful doctor.
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The decided to tell me that. I destroyed basically everything
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you can destroy in your knee. That was a torn ACL, a complete
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tear and both meniscus, like, whatever.
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I don't know, I'm not, I don't know shit about anything, but
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both meniscus. Natori CL and he was like, how
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are you walking? Like you don't walk around with
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like a bandage on like a rapper, anything like that.
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And I was like, yeah. I do like a lot.
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I wrestled yesterday. Yeah, as literally I was, I was
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like, I mean, my back and shoulder her from my match, but
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the knees chilling right now, I was like, when it gets cold.
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It'll suck a little bit more but right now we're fine.
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Like, do the winners? What's ugly?
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I'm I was In my early 20s and here like a winner time would be
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coming around. I'm like, here we go.
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Like I was like, alright this weird something's wrong, I'm
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afraid I'm afraid to go to a doctor to check my joints
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because I know 100%. Nothing's torn is like, I do
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most impossible for me to tear muscles, but all of the
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cartilage and stuff that like the cushion that goes around my
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joints, dude, I'm bone on bone just because my disorder just
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destroyed it and that's what I mean.
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Like my it's just I would sit here and moving stuff around on
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my knee. I'm like this.
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Is not in, right? This is not in place like
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something's wrong here and like I'm like, all right, let's let's
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do the grown-up thing. And let's get, let's get the
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surgery. So you live without you found
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out. You had a MCL ACL Tour, 10?
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Meniscus, destroyed? Yeah, get your set, your surgery
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is scheduled for December. What was it?
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It was like, oh, well, that that was the thing to I when I went
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to the doctor's I said I will do surgery but I want to Finish up
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all the bookings. I had like, I think you're an
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ass. Well, I I've been wrestling for
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years with this tour, AC, I think I can finish out, maybe 16
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more shows like I got this. So it was like ahead, bookings
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lined up for the rest of the year.
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I was like, all right, you know what?
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New year, new knee, maybe that. Maybe that's what.
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That's what we'll do. We won't take any 2023 bookings.
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Like, people would hit me up and I'm like yellow lights.
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No taste. Noo Noony our new year, new me.
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But I'm like look it look I'm I wasn't really really being open
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with the that I was getting surgery yet.
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I was like look but I'm not taking any new year booking
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sorry. So I was turning some people
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down and it would suck up some like cool things would be lined
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up and people would want to do and I'm like, fuck, you know.
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But so yeah, I had a few bookings lined up and I said
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Said basically they we got to setting the surgery date.
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Here we go. I said my last booking is
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December 11th. What do you have after that?
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And all that for I said, like December late.
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December is what I said and she's like we have December or.
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No, I got it mixed up there. First thing was the week of
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Thanksgiving and I was like no. I was like I Want to finish
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these things in December. I was like, what do you have in
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December? And they was like, after
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December 11th, is that fun? And they're like, we have the
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13th? I was like, well, that's two
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days after that, that seems like enough time.
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I was like wrap up the last match of the Year.
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Let because I'm all about, you know, dedicating, giving my
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goddamn body to professional wrestling because I'm smart or
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idiot. I don't know, one of the other
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Yes, that's the word. They like to throw out their
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passionate. That's it.
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That's how we. That's how we describe the
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idiots, right passionate. We're so excited.
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We are so passionate. It's such a fun word.
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Like, yeah, but we're idiots when it comes down to it.
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So, yeah, they're like and my body says to me, he's like, he's
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like you idiot. He's like, don't, you know, two
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days. After a match is always when
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you're the most sore and I'm like ha.
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Damn it. You're right.
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So like don't ya Goin in there but it was cool.
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It was fine. The last match, I felt good.
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So not didn't mess anything up in that last match so that's all
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I. Yeah, if you go back right now
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and you go check out the latest smash Master shows.
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If you go back and check out the latest high tension shows, you
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go back and check out the latest Grooms, toy shows tons.
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Other promotions ssw. He's working that entire time.
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Pretty much. If it's anywhere.
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Between October to December, he's working knowing he has a
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blown ACL MCL and no meniscus. And he's like, I'm not saying a
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word to anybody until December. Yep.
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Yeah. And that was the thing to I
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wanted to it was that deciding factor whether I wanted to.
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Announce it ahead of time or kind of like, do that last
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match. I like it's a normal match and
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then be like, hey, here's here's a post, guys, I'm going away for
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a while, like talked about also possibly making an angle where a
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wrestler, like beat you up and blows your knee out and hit like
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a tax. Attorney would a chair real bad.
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Like that wasn't that was talked about this, as well, and that
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was the real. We kind of went with.
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It was, you know, I let's break the wrestling fourth wall.
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You know how we fucking made the post, you're going to get
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surgery. The angles of I, I said, I'm all
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about storytelling wrestling. It's my favorite goddamn thing.
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It's the reason we all love wrestling, right?
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So I wanted to tell a story out of basically nothing and me and
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Jay bujji wrestled once at Sanctuary it was a match.
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It just was thrown together one night.
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We had fun with it but we didn't do much, you know, we kind of
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kept it easy but Jay bujji is one of the superstars of Indie
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wrestling right now. And there's not many superstars
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in Indy wrestling. It's a lot of pro wrestlers.
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Now, many superstars, so Uncle, mesti I asked him personally.
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I said, hey, there's different plans set up for that show.
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I said listen, this is my last show.
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Do you happen to have bougie booked for this event?
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Says, yes, I said, if there's one thing I asked you, Could the
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match be against Jay bougie and he talked a bit but he said you
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got it. Do you know what a match?
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She was supposed to wrestle. I don't, I don't know what
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bougie was supposed to have but I believe it was supposed to be
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me and Skylar Kincaid. We were supposed to continue
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that Kendo stick match that still never got to happen.
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We were just card was subject to change.
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You shaved your beard for it. Yeah.
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I know Sierra kicks my ass about all the Time.
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But so we're just going to continue that because that had
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to get changed and I was fine with it but I want I was
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thinking bigger picture here and Jay Bouche, he's hot, he's
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killing it everywhere. He goes, he's making, you'll
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give J bougie, nothing. He makes it something.
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That's what you're supposed to do as a wrestler.
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So the match is happening and come up with this whole idea.
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Whether I want to do, I want to work it after and Here I go.
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I'm getting surgery. I was hurt in this match.
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That was that was the decision, whether do I, nobody knows I
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have a torn ACL, do I want to play it off like Jay bujji
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injured? My ACL in this match.
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No, that'd be whatever people and I wanted to go into the
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match, announced it, I'm getting the surgery.
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Blah blah, blah. And now, me and Jay, bougie we
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go out there. We have a match, people enjoyed
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it. Thank you, I appreciate that.
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I was very happy with it but the post-match thing is what I was
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more like please I guess you can say and happy with because it
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was literally it was the, the exact Vision I had in my head
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was I wanted the Beatdown I wanted the they already won.
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They the The spoiler alerts large, a bougie, beat me.
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They already won right now. You could watch the yeah you can
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watch it on YouTube, check out smash Master wrestling.
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There's he's uploading all the content right now on the YouTube
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for free guys. You can watch this stuff for
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free. Share it around there so many
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bangers in these shows, it's insane.
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But so they're already beating me down.
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Here comes bougie with the chair face, that piece of shit Dex to
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shit out of my girl. It was chaos.
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The referees are in the ring, they don't know what to do.
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The goddamn ring bells. Ringing people for people that
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you never like a BJ himself, walks up, ringside like evil,
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whose do G, ripped my pants off, like it was, it was everything.
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I kind of want it out of it and it was because I look at it this
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way, I'm going out, I'm out. The doctor tells me, nine
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months, that's I look at that nine.
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Months of a year. I'm out.
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I'm not doing any of that. Less come back early to injure
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myself, again, bullshit, taking the time.
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I'm out, nine months. If I'm going out, I need to
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elevate somebody else. I need to help, get somebody
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else. Somebody who's already killing
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it, Jay, bujji can hint. Like can deserved.
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I hate the word deserve in wrestling because wrestling owes
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us. Nothing, you don't deserve
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anything. You got to work for it.
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Yada yada, yada all that shit. But Jay bougie was somebody I
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saw that like needed that and could take that.
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And it was, it was perfect for me.
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It was everything that I wanted out of it and Jay bujji is now
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the biggest piece of shit in Smash Master wrestling and that
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is exactly what I want it to happen basically like because
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why wouldn't what makes sense look at Uncle mass and heat
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Uncle Mass. He's bringing a nice wholesome
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product 2570 and here comes Jay bujji screw and shit,
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upbringing, his crew in do, whatever the fuck he wants.
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You know, he did have a cream pie match, dude, that's what I
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mean, the lesson here we are. Here's the plug, here's the real
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plug. All right.
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In March, March, fifth, Uncle, Massey's birthday show.
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There is a pin, the tail on the donkey match.
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Now, this is every show on comestible, right?
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And some sort of Scrambler, yes, there's also there's always a
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Scrambler featured on the show. This time cut a little bit of a
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Twist to it pin. The tail on the donkey match or
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believe. That's exactly what it's called.
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I don't know. I might be getting the word
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along those lines but here's the thing, this match features.
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Some of the best talent in the area that like people don't
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understand what they're in store for.
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You got Tommy Beck, so hold on, I messed up.
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I said best talent, it includes Tommy backs and then you get to
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the good talent. Daniel Alexander, who's
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literally The next big deal like people cream, pie was wholesome,
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pin the tail on the Scrambler pin?
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The tail on the Scrambler, that's right, there we go.
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Alright, so you got Daniel Alexander, who's killing it?
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Everywhere he goes, Banger Banger Banger, you got Vinny Lee
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Glam Rock. Who personally, I only found out
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about a few months ago but is one of my all-time favorite
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people now the see it shows. He's awesome.
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Like you dude if you have the opportunity of you're a wrestler
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and you share a locker and with Neely glam-rock talk that is do
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just have a discussion with him. Dude, you will learn so much
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more than you realize. It's it's awesome.
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I'm happy then bringing him into the fold and said that someone
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we're seeing more often at our shows.
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Hell, yeah, you got AJ Evers. That that dude who's somehow
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someway pulling out every goddamn went in the Scrambler.
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It's true or not, he's not lost one.
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He every single Scrambler, he's one, they had a mess Scrambler
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back in October for Halloween is to comes in the goddamn Lucha
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masking. Winds are you kidding me?
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And then look you've grown. IMS toy show.
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Grim from Grimm's Toy Show. Listen to me, I've known Grim my
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entire run. It's hard to get this dude out
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of Jersey so we're bringing them out to PA.
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We're bringing them out to the 5704 Uncle, Massey's birthday
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and it's going to be interesting is the word I guess you can put
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Scrambler and the it's you're going to get your money's worth
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recently lost his title. Grim.
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Yes. Listen there's a A lot of stuff
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going on over there. There's a lot of chaos, always
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one print. One promise you can always get
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with GTS. Wrestling is the word chaos.
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That that, that is the one of the, craziest fan bases I've
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ever. And when I say crazy, I don't
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mean that in a negative way at all.
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Mommy, I went to one show and I just sat and watched I wasn't.
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And I just gave you a ride. Yeah.
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I get messages all the time. Or like are you part of the
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roster? I was like, no.
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I well I gave a guy, a ride one. So because I see us together and
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places. They think I'm a GTS from like
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I'm not a GTS member. One of my favorite things is
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people. Oil when they're first time
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appearing on GTS and seeing the aftermath I like calling it.
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Like once you appear on GTS, in that video airs, boom.
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Here comes the followers. Boom.
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Here comes the random comments, the random, DMS the the trolls
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instantly. There's no like they're here
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comes all the YouTube comments about you and it's the random
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like fan edits and shit. It's it's insane.
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It like theirs. No, there's a fan but like
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there's so many reputations of GTs holds but there's a lot of
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times I've seen the countless amount of wrestlers.
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I've seen come to GTS to if you want as the kids like saying
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boost their clout and get in. Get get those followers simple,
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the boom. If I parent like three videos
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and get followers, I'll be I'll be over as fuck brother like
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that. It's I love it.
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I just put out a piece of content that I think is probably
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my favorite thing he's ever. Er done just recently where he
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went to the con and essentially apologize Taniya Jax because as
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I'm watching he was doing like back of the day he was just he
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was playing up that character that people want him to be on
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YouTube and he said, really like hurtful things about Nia and her
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weight and her parents and I guess they had like a Twitter
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beef and I guess she was essentially giving it the whole
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time. Like she wasn't really offended
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she was just kind of like battling with him.
23:06
Gimme a cannon. Yeah, she likes to say now.
23:09
Yeah. And then when she see him, she's
23:11
like dude I was going along with it, you know what I mean?
23:12
But like, it was kind of do for him to walk up and be like, hey
23:15
man, I'm really sorry. I said that, that me saying that
23:18
and getting the backlash like change who I am as a person and
23:21
who is how I changed, how I do my content and things can be
23:24
hurtful. If you say the wrong thing, to
23:26
people, especially female Talent, yeah, basically, there's
23:30
been multiple times where cancel culture before it was even a
23:33
thing, Twitter is tried to cancel Grim for being grim, Him,
23:38
he is like, here's the thing. There's Grim, there's Dave,
23:41
there's two different human beings we can even play the
23:43
character you ever meet Dave. Trust me, you'll seeing it was
23:47
not seeing Grim, it was seeing day bunk.
23:49
Yes. Exactly.
23:50
You will see, you will see there, they're not a like
23:53
whatsoever, but as yes, it was Grim being the the longer Bag
24:00
videos. You watch the more extreme.
24:02
The Grim character is because it's just how the world was, you
24:06
know, See ya he was it was this was like again 2018 and people
24:12
were just coming at him and like trying to get him and get him
24:15
and get him and yeah, and I Jack's retweeted and once once
24:19
the the WWE Superstar acknowledges it all, it's
24:22
fucking over for you dude. Like your family.
24:25
You got the big fan base but WWE, you can't fucking compete
24:30
with that. Yeah.
24:32
But it was a good piece of content, so I was, I don't know
24:34
yet. It was good.
24:36
I liked that. He was on.
24:37
On the same event with her and it worked out like that.
24:41
Yeah, yeah, we thought but yeah, she tried to play it all.
24:43
What she was working him. I'm like, get the fuck out of
24:46
here. Get the fuck out of here.
24:49
You know, the cameras on. That's why you're saying that
24:51
should know. Well no, I actually didn't.
24:53
He kind of had his girl hanging back and they like, hey, by the
24:56
way, this is being recorded. Are you cool if I use this and
24:59
she's like, I don't care. They always know when the
25:01
cameras on Grimm's character development has definitely been
25:07
Of society. Wait.
25:08
Until I start applying social construction to my promo.
25:10
There you go. I love it.
25:12
Yeah, this is Ruby rudel. Yeah, Russia says, who's wearing
25:15
your gear? Yes.
25:16
Like DJ gear? Yes, I was a 411 month of the I
25:21
forget what year, but once they 2019, I found that I was, I
25:27
guess I bought it originally as a Halloween costume, it's like a
25:31
never close. Yeah.
25:33
And I was like, I was just at, like, a Spirit Halloween.
25:36
I was like, yeah, only grabs like II.
25:38
Never just buy a costume. I was like, like, buying random
25:40
shit and put it together. So it's going to be do like the
25:43
fucking old school rappers shit. That's fun.
25:45
Why not? If I did it and I liked how like
25:48
the gold get up. Look, the the parachute pants,
25:50
whatever they're called, and I was like, I like this is cool.
25:54
Everybody likes a boot, like, Sabu kind of like baggy pants
25:57
like that. So then I was like, I think it
26:01
was, I forget what show, but they had it like a costume
26:04
Battle Royal and I think that was not processing after dark.
26:08
Well, there was that and I think the first-ever place I wore it
26:12
was the not the ssw, we work for another ssw in PA Superstar
26:18
wrestling but they had like a costume Battle Royal and I was
26:24
like, bet I'm going to I'm just going to bring this and wear it
26:26
out like you know have fun like Philly my character was like a
26:29
super serious and angry all the fucking time and shit so I'm
26:32
like, I don't want to be something like fun, have fun in
26:35
a Battle Royal, why not so wear that out?
26:37
And I like to Oh, it looked and then.
26:38
Yeah, we did the, the electric Halloween pro wrestling after
26:42
dark, and I wore that out and I was like, yeah, that was fun.
26:47
I used to like, I came out the fanny pack.
26:49
I used to like pull like really long gold chains out of a fanny
26:52
pack and shit. Like it was fucking great.
26:54
It was having fun. I did a pro wrestling explosion
26:59
in Philly. We here.
27:02
And that like a two-night pop-up Halloween weekend thing at the
27:07
Fire, which is a really tiny Dive Bar in Philly, but it has a
27:13
side with like a small stage where Indie like small axe
27:17
playing shit. So he booked it, where You had a
27:22
10 x 10 wrestling ring in there now.
27:25
All right, for people who are unfamiliar a normal wrestling
27:29
ring on the Indies is about 16 by 16 some places 18 by 18 rare.
27:36
But some places 20 by 20 like the WWE and the big leagues.
27:40
Use the 20 by 20, small fellows like me look ridiculous in a 20
27:45
by 20 because you see that here's the 20.
27:49
Gcw uses a 16 by 16. Yeah, and people people can't
27:53
believe the shit they do in the 16 by 16 which is a normal ring
27:59
but I wrestled in 14 but this was a 10, a 10 by 10 ring, I
28:05
don't know what show, I don't know what this ring size.
28:07
Was the show we did if Pete's in the ring.
28:10
Yeah. Pete's in the ring of Peace.
28:11
In the chat. The first show that me.
28:14
You and Brian did a commentary on that ring had to Be 10 or 12.
28:19
It was Tiny. Yeah.
28:22
The ring broke during like ring set up and Eric pin had had to
28:27
put it together and fix it and save the show.
28:29
But you know, you hit the ropes, took two or three steps and you
28:32
were already into the next set of real dude.
28:33
Yeah, with this ring, you were second you're off the ropes
28:36
right back in the other one. And it was a kid.
28:41
I wrestled Marcus Skyler. It was like a Halloween show.
28:45
Get up. He's in one of those inflatable
28:47
fucking tea. Six outfits and so it's already
28:51
like that thing's huge. He's this kids like this kids,
28:54
like 62. I want to say like big
28:58
motherfucker. Um and an inflatable T-Rex
29:02
outfit, and we are wrestling in a ten-by-ten wrestling ring.
29:05
Nothing can go wrong and it was just it was fucking awesome the
29:10
whole time like you walked out on the stage and shit like that,
29:13
but the best part about the show was As your wrestling, they
29:18
would have bands playing on the stage.
29:20
So the stage was very boring. You I need more music and
29:24
collaborations, the main event act, it was like I think the
29:27
match was some Triple Threat. It was like Tony Cheney when he
29:31
was doing his pizza delivery. Boy gimmick coming in, like
29:34
acting like he's delivering pizza, they had a werewolf.
29:38
And I forget it with the third was, but they're doing a triple
29:42
threat and this band was from fucking Tokyo, like they, I
29:46
booked this bin and they legit were from fucking Tokyo, Japan
29:49
spoke no English. And they're rocking the fuck out
29:52
as this match is going on and it was one of the coolest, dude,
29:56
is, I wish I was higher for that shit.
29:58
It was insane. It was insane.
30:01
It was a lot of match. I watched a match where they
30:03
didn't visuals Triple-A trios tag or whatever, and it was
30:11
Hollow Wicked, Ultra, Magnus black.
30:14
And I don't forget who the third one was now, but it was them in
30:18
the adversity outfielders and somebody else?
30:21
And Ultra Magnus is band, is set up on the Range.
30:24
We played him down and then they're all in the ring and
30:27
Ultra manages, like, puts his hands up like Cain and just
30:30
starts attacking and like they all start fighting and the band,
30:32
loved it. It was so much fun.
30:36
That is actually on the LL BAC show on iwt be Yeah, final
30:43
match. Make it out to one of those
30:46
shows. I'm usually somewhere else or
30:48
something's got every every time I see their shows like the
30:53
pictures and videos, after they look so much fun and now they
30:56
LifeLock, there's always someone from TV always hanging out
31:00
there, right? Yeah, at least not there then I
31:03
think Eddie Kingston with the last one.
31:06
Yeah, they all got good friends, man.
31:08
Good friends told me, you know, they met somewhere, dude.
31:12
It don't doesn't matter what you do in wrestling is You know,
31:17
absolutely. Well, let's, let's rewind here.
31:19
How did you get into this insane thing called professional
31:22
wrestling? How do I get into it?
31:24
Like as a fan or just a lots of fan then transformed into a
31:28
talent. So like, all right, wrestling
31:31
didn't hook me immediately like most people.
31:35
Yes, wrestling fan that I got first time I seen it.
31:37
Bam hook. Like not right away.
31:39
Like my cousin, my cousin was really in the wrestling and he
31:44
had all the toys. Toys and video games and shit
31:47
like that and I was like it was cool but it was like whatever I
31:52
like playing with the toys because they were action
31:54
figures. Essentially, I like action
31:56
figures but that was a boy growing up but wrestling didn't
31:58
hook me. One of the key memories I have
32:04
and is such a weird memory, it's locked into my brain.
32:06
And I don't know why I love telling the story, but I was
32:09
over friend's house and we were all playing, like one of the
32:12
Smackdown games. Here Comes the Pain, some shit
32:15
like that. Shut your mouth, one of them and
32:18
before I was really into wrestling, we were playing like
32:20
a six-man match and they were like, you gotta play, you know,
32:23
I was like all right but and for some reason I picked Scotty 2
32:26
Hotty and I was like this dude sounds fucking awesome.
32:32
Like if I was a wrestler, I'd want my name to be Scotty 2
32:35
Hotty because this is, why wouldn't it like right away?
32:39
You're telling me what you're about, like your fault.
32:42
You're the man. So they all right bet and
32:44
they're like, yeah. Yeah, his finishers like, the
32:46
worm, and I was like, what? Like you, so I don't, I don't
32:49
know what was going on, but that's like a key memory.
32:52
It's locked in my brain and like, the ones I'm Scotty, 2
32:55
Hotty came to gcw and wrestle Janelle and like, did that whole
32:58
thing, dude. It was one of the coolest
33:00
fucking things I ever got to be a part of and just sit there and
33:03
walk and I was like, yeah. I was like, dude like that's and
33:06
like holy shit and but the, the memory That I say like the day I
33:15
fell in love with wrestling which is really weird.
33:18
Is the day Eddie Guerrero died and it was because like, growing
33:25
up. It was like I watched wrestling
33:26
here. And there, you know what?
33:27
My cousin. I believed it was real as a kid
33:32
but then, you know, I always had those older cousins.
33:34
Yeah, it's fake. Why are you watching that fake
33:35
shit? Bubba.
33:36
Bubba. So more and more.
33:37
I'm like even as a kid trying to decipher how the fuck is this
33:40
fake? No, there's no fucking way.
33:42
But then I started to figure it out.
33:44
And then, as I'm getting older, I'm Lee, are ya, obviously this
33:46
shit's fucking fake, but they're there.
33:49
How are they perfectly jumping over each other?
33:52
But, um, so then I remember just chilling and on the news
33:58
wrestler Eddie Guerrero dies and I'm sitting.
34:01
I'm like, what the fuck like that's not.
34:04
It's on the news is saying this isn't fake.
34:06
This isn't part of the show this.
34:08
Holy shit like this, this dude fucking died and Then they had
34:12
were all and everybody's out there crying and it was the
34:15
first time I was like, holy shit.
34:17
Like I became our oh yeah. Wrestling was real.
34:21
And I was like, whoa. And I say like the reason that
34:29
was the day I fell in love with wrestling was because I said
34:32
that was the day one of the become a wrestler because
34:37
growing up, I was more, I was very in the acting and like I
34:41
didn't do Saying like acting. I was never really good at
34:44
acting in school, but I just love the idea of movies and
34:47
shows and directing and shit like that.
34:50
So then I always say, I was one of those rare, like, people
34:54
stopped loving wrestling, and grew out of wrestling.
34:56
When they found out, it was fake.
34:57
I started loving it more as I hold up.
35:01
So they're actors and they're doing this shit and it's cool.
35:04
Like they're actors that get cool as entrances and fucking
35:07
pyro and lights and like what they do all this.
35:12
Shit and they're just act like they're working together.
35:14
This is like that's fucking cool.
35:15
Like what I want to do that, that's what I want to do that
35:18
and so that was like the connection I was like okay this
35:22
is real are they like? All right and I was Hardcore,
35:28
WWE kid and then TNA started popping off.
35:31
So I became like Tian AI was for a few years I was more about
35:35
tiene. This is cool man.
35:37
This is like a little edgier and then I started going In the
35:42
shows and shit like that and I was a whole.
35:44
Okay, this is like right up in my face.
35:46
This is fucking cool. This is awesome.
35:49
And just from there, it blew off, you know, if fucking took
35:53
off in D shows where the way to go, you know, like I kind of
35:58
stopped going the more the bigger shows and it was just
36:02
cool developing relationships, you know, with people whether
36:06
it's fans or wrestlers. I know people in wrestling that
36:10
we like were Slurs. Now we're both walking doing
36:13
shit but we were just spent going shows together.
36:16
The ECW Arena without showing up the house of Hardcore just
36:19
hanging out. Now we're both walking around
36:21
like he got the wrestle in the fucking ECW Arena, like, that's
36:24
fucking insane to me like that. That's that I fucking tear it
36:28
up. Like yeah, dude, I get emotional
36:30
as fuck with wrestling. I like wrestling makes me cry
36:33
way more than I like to admit. I'll tell you that right now.
36:36
Emily, did I again that word passionate right?
36:40
I sometimes get that way like went like If you know, and it
36:43
could be just an indie show, like, you just know, like on a
36:46
car ride up. How like sitting talking to you
36:49
or RR O Reilly that like, you know, this means something
36:53
because we have those conversations before the show
36:55
is, like today means something to me because this is a Moment
36:58
Like This today is that that's going to be special and it's
37:02
just like, and then we go to the show and then you, I know behind
37:06
the curtain, your mindset going into it, and then I see you hit
37:09
the Kurt and you can, you can physically see that on you.
37:12
You, and then it's more than just a match, the performance.
37:14
Like you. This means something to you and
37:16
then you go out and kill it and the crowd reacts to it and then
37:18
you're sitting on like, that's what, dude, I love it.
37:24
I fucking I say it all the time. People like, I know why you're
37:32
telling me. People that go 2nd shows and
37:44
like don't get booked on the show.
37:46
Last minute, they're all sour. They're hanging out all those
37:49
like fucking down. Like, shut the fuck up, sit
37:52
down. I bet you got like seven fucking
37:54
friends on this show, sit down, cheer for them, enjoy them and,
37:58
like, watch what they're doing, and watch what they're doing,
38:00
right and wrong and fucking. I love that shit, dude, I love
38:03
going it. I love going to shows and just
38:07
watching my friends, fucking kill it.
38:09
And and dude, as people Well, if you don't kill it, if you shit
38:14
the bed, I'll fucking tell you, dude, my boy fucking few weeks
38:19
ago, he fucking walked out the car and wearing some crazy ass
38:22
fucking gear. And I'm like, what do I go?
38:24
But go up to my dad and I'm like, bro, I love you to death
38:27
but what the fuck was that? Don't ever wear that shit out
38:30
there again. Do you like and like you just
38:34
need to be real with people, man.
38:35
That's how everybody gets better.
38:37
And this shit you can't can't front with people.
38:39
He can't fucking live and people or bull People.
38:43
Somebody had a bad match. You fucking tell them, dude,
38:45
they had a good match. He fucking tell them.
38:47
It's that simple. Yeah, I've had people tell me
38:50
sometimes when I was doing things on commentary that wasn't
38:52
good and I like you know you have to adjust that and that's a
38:54
quiet and as you just called it a spot and I went oops.
38:58
Yeah. Yeah.
38:59
There's stuff like that. Like somebody sent me a promo of
39:02
the other day and they're like ask me how it was.
39:05
I was like it's good but you're using too many Insider terms
39:08
like it depends it. Ends where you're at.
39:13
Like, there's some Feds that are like all fucking.
39:15
Oh yeah, we have Smart. Marquee fucking crowd.
39:18
Yeah, whatever you they pop for that shit but if it's a fit, if
39:22
it's a fan base that ain't is not going to understand what the
39:24
fuck you're talking about then. Yeah.
39:27
But yeah. So you how did you transition
39:31
them from a fan to finding your first school and getting into
39:33
professional wrestling? So basically fuck in.
39:39
I started going to Indy, shows more and more and then that was
39:44
the thing. Like I felt like I was robbed a
39:46
lot of the whole like even though I am a fucking back
39:49
yarder, I feel like I could have been yarding much younger and so
39:55
I was abroad. I was robbed of that growing up
39:57
knowing back yarders and fucking going all these like fucking
40:03
like learning how to just wrestle with all my own kind of
40:05
thing. So for me it was like I grew up
40:08
Filium. And anytime I would look up
40:11
rustling schools and should most of them are in Jersey or
40:13
whatever? And I'm like, fuck.
40:14
Do you like? I can't get to that.
40:17
So then I started going The partially right over the bridge
40:22
and there's like five schools. Yeah, it's insane.
40:25
And they're just like, they're there were a lot then but now
40:28
it's now. It's insane dude.
40:30
Everybody and their Grandma has a fucking school open, okay?
40:33
If you own a, you know, about a warehouse you probably have a
40:36
wrestling school in New Jersey, there's like five.
40:39
Wrestling schools within like 30 miles of each other, in Jersey,
40:42
it's too. It's not, it's too easy to do,
40:45
professional wrestling in Jersey.
40:47
I always say, like, I don't find it a flex that if you're booked
40:53
every single weekend, if every single one of your listings is
40:56
New Jersey that cloud every weekend and I'm from
41:00
Pennsylvania and 90% of my book, my I tell people like, I'm sorry
41:05
like there's there's having a lot of bookings that are Good
41:09
and they're just having a lot of bookings and New Jersey.
41:12
Feds there's about at least six of them running every Saturday
41:16
so if you're preparing New Jersey it's not much of a flex
41:19
that's kind of easy. I feel like I'm in the good ones
41:22
in Jersey. Yeah.
41:23
So any so I found out about Chikara I started going to
41:27
jakara shows and they're right down from where I fucking grew
41:32
up, right down the street, from where I grew up right off
41:35
towards Dale and I was like, all right, bet this is fucking close
41:38
shit. It and I started going a couple
41:40
shows and then they are putting over the training and all that
41:43
and they had like a free Workshop it was like I was a
41:46
holy shit a free Workshop. Yeah come one day completely
41:50
free learn how to bump. Learn how to run the ropes
41:52
through all this shit chain wrestling.
41:54
Like holy fuck I can finally do it.
41:56
I can get in the ring went and did it absolutely loved it
42:00
signed up for the school. At the same time, it was, who
42:04
was the head trainer? That time at the time.
42:06
It was quack. Mike, Quackenbush and ophidian.
42:08
They were, they were the two that they were the two that
42:10
trained me. And Fucking.
42:15
So at the same time, I knew a few friends that started popping
42:20
up on GTS rustling. I always watched Grimm's Toy
42:23
Show Thorn for a few years during that time and then he got
42:29
a ring in his backyard and like I knew like I had a few friends,
42:32
I popped up in there and started throwing shit and learn how to
42:34
bump and I'm like whoa what the fuck now?
42:36
I know like people that backyard, I mean like get on
42:38
there so showed up started doing shit.
42:43
It's hilarious if you find my first couple GTS stuff because I
42:49
don't know anything. I knew had a bump and that was
42:52
literally it. Other than that I couldn't hit
42:55
the ropes. I could do anything.
42:57
I was dog shit and so bad to the fact that Grim uses me as an
43:04
example of somebody like a somebody who's evolved or
43:08
whatever. So I realize how bad I was I
43:12
would watch my ship. Back I'm like I do not look
43:15
cool. I look like a fucking asshole.
43:18
So then I started like I was like, you know what, let me just
43:21
stay away from GTs for a while and just really focus on the
43:23
training I'll just boom pump this out like so I think it was
43:27
about six or seven months. I just was at the wrestle
43:29
Factory doing shit and Way better like I don't know how it
43:37
like got just learned a lot more in that time span.
43:40
Who was all part of your training and classes at monster
43:43
Factory when you were there, trying to remember exactly the
43:47
key people that were in my class where Marcus Skyler, the Bristol
43:50
line that I mentioned earlier, the vantes, who is another one
43:54
who's booked very heavily in this in this scene now.
43:57
Fuck, dude. I'll I want scholar to unbolt I
44:00
will. I will yes exactly.
44:01
I love them both to death. I will always put Fucking devant
44:04
has over to somebody. He is one of my top guys.
44:07
Like, I always have friends that, like, book shows,
44:10
whatever, do message me. Yo, if I had the power base, I
44:13
need a big guy would be probably my Champion.
44:16
I need a big guy. I'm like, he's not tall, she's
44:19
not tall at all but he's fucking He's solid and he loves on says
44:23
baby. Yeah, it's a good mean.
44:25
Look at the mouth and he's one of the hawk.
44:27
Exactly. He's one of those guys like when
44:30
fucking I don't think you have the Mohawk of the time or the
44:32
beard but what? Like day one, we started
44:35
training together and he had all the tattoos and like he was
44:38
still, he wasn't as built as he is now, but he was still built.
44:42
But, dude, just his first bump, we're like, all right, now we
44:45
know who the fucking stand out in the class is like this.
44:48
Dude. Obviously we're so Washington
44:52
fans and that Avery Goods last show they like but didn't know
44:55
that we were coming. So me and Brian went, we're like
44:57
first row. So being Brian are literally a
44:59
barricade for so. So they can do the camera work.
45:02
Like, we were kind of like yeah. Okay.
45:04
It's like a new camera and damask dawn has comes out.
45:06
I'm like the Von Teese, loves the Philadelphia Eagles and he
45:08
just trying to both fuck you did.
45:13
But there wasn't there was a couple people in my class that
45:15
like we're so good and like had so much potential but they just
45:18
didn't stick with it. Like they were just kind of like
45:20
getting the experience to just like say they did it you know,
45:23
like learn that he was there was he later?
45:26
Yeah, Makowski was there. But we weren't in the same class
45:29
like I did the tier system where it was like, the best way to
45:33
compare is like there's Full time and where your, they're all
45:36
throughout the week and shit. And there's like part time, I
45:38
only went on the weekends. So I would go and just train
45:41
with quacker of ophidian on the weekends.
45:45
And I never like there would be a few seminars and workshops and
45:50
shit that I would show up to during the week.
45:53
But not not, I wasn't a full-time student as you can
45:58
say. Yeah, but I the best way I can
46:01
say it is I learned the basics. I learned what I felt that.
46:04
I needed to learn there and then I started doing a lot of
46:06
seminars and I would go to like Tremont school here and there
46:10
and just GTS we started doing more training and shit like
46:14
that. Like GTS got bigger over time
46:17
and it would just I I never wanted to stay in one place and
46:21
I'm real big on that belief, that no wrestler should stay in
46:26
the same place or same training facility for longer than I'd
46:31
like to say. Six months, six months.
46:34
This is like a, like, a couple months span but it maybe even a
46:38
year or so. But a year is a lot of time in
46:40
wrestling years like fucking three years but how fast this
46:45
business moves but it's it always a good example of that.
46:50
Kwai quite has been through Chikara, he's been through the
46:53
Johnson, he's been through CZ dojo.
46:55
Now he's he think here is listed all like to other sanctuary and
46:59
another is another one. Yeah.
47:01
And I don't want that he'll his evolved and how he's so well.
47:03
Rounded. Wounded because he's learned
47:05
from so many different people. Dude, I've had one of my best
47:07
wrestling matches ever with Mac way, like he's another one that
47:11
I'll always put over to people. Like I need somebody, I'm like,
47:14
dude Mac way, Mac will be on. I say it all the time.
47:17
Every time I see him in a goddamn show, Matt coil will be
47:19
on TV within two years and people are going to be very
47:23
upset when they didn't book him because he's going to be killing
47:26
it. I'll put a dude, gets it.
47:29
The dude gets it, bro, he gets it.
47:31
And that's what you need to know in wrestling, you just need to
47:33
be able to It. Yeah.
47:35
He's very very dumb as that sounds but yeah, fucking so
47:39
nobody there. It's a proven track record that
47:42
people that stay in one place for so long.
47:44
They don't get that right. They either get complacent and
47:49
they stay in the content and they're just stuck there or they
47:53
just they all Wrestle the fucking same.
47:54
Dude, I hate that shit. I hate when I see wrestlers come
47:58
from school and I'll wrestle exactly the same.
48:01
Like that's not what wrestling is, right?
48:03
Every single one of us that do this is supposed to be unique or
48:07
in some sort of way, if it were copying or parity, or fucking
48:11
tribute Act is something, we all need to be unique in some sort
48:15
of fucking way. I think I get like, there's a
48:18
lot of people to put it over the hole too many wrestlers wear
48:22
shirts when they wrestle and shit like that.
48:24
I get that God be a wrestler. I get that, but if we were at
48:28
the same time, we were all shirtless.
48:30
The fuck would be cool about it. We then we be like some weird
48:33
fetish to me. That's why I love Kevin Owens.
48:36
Many just looks different than everybody else.
48:38
Yeah. Oh yeah, dude.
48:39
My favorite was that I watched Kevin Owens day.
48:43
NXT debut with a buddy of mine who doesn't watch wrestling at
48:46
all and he like walks Out in the crowds going fucking nuts and
48:49
shit and my buddies just like he's a fucking, dude.
48:51
He's just a fucking dude, like he's wearing basketball shorts
48:54
and a t-shirt and I was like, I was a little heavier set at the
48:57
time and my buddy's, like I feel like, that'd be you if you
49:00
wrestled. He's like, he's like that,
49:03
that's you and fucking 10 years. Look at the like this dude.
49:06
And then the best part was like, him getting in the ring and
49:10
absolutely murdering fucking CJ. Parker.
49:12
And he fucking like, he killed all.
49:15
It did was one of the best debut match as you.
49:17
Have an NXT and my buddy was like, all right, dude.
49:20
That guy can move like he can go.
49:22
I'm like exactly like that. I love that shit.
49:25
Yeah. Yeah, they want you guys just go
49:28
so he can win people over. That's what's beautiful about
49:30
him and like Sammy. And people like that is like,
49:32
you look at them. Like what makes you different
49:34
than you? Just watch him work and like,
49:35
oh, that's What Makes You Different dude?
49:37
Exactly. Like we everybody is fucking
49:40
unique and different. Yeah.
49:42
So yeah. You g'kar, then you start going
49:44
GTS. What?
49:45
What are some of your favorite? Stories or memories in your
49:49
years of wrestling like maybe a match, you had our a
49:52
behind-the-scenes story that you can tell without getting people
49:55
incriminated for crimes. Um, I don't know.
50:04
Try to this been through a lot of interesting and dumb fucking
50:07
situations. That's for sure.
50:09
Why, while you're thinking, I'll segue to this.
50:12
So another thing that makes me very comes out, it that makes me
50:15
excited for you and I and, and and rosh Uncle Master kind of
50:19
alluded to it earlier on your the gateway drug a professional
50:21
and independently. Yes, yes, you'll message someone
50:25
of us and be like, yeah I need a.
50:27
You guys want to go a car ride up and essentially it's you need
50:29
a ride but you're getting a car full of people to go somewhere.
50:32
Yeah, it sounds. When you say it it sounds like I
50:35
don't have a ride and I'm being selfish.
50:37
I need you to take me. Put your mind.
50:39
State is no no, I do need a ride there.
50:41
But if I could bring a carload of people, I'm going to put
50:44
everyone in that car, over to where I'm going.
50:46
And try to get you guys to work. Yeah, I'm times out of 10.
50:49
If you go for that car ride, even if you don't get booked,
50:52
you're going to make good connections.
50:53
You're going to make good friends and you're going to be
50:55
exposed to a new market. And you, I've seen you do that
50:57
for myself. You've done it for Ross, you've
50:59
done it for a Hawthorn, like, if you, if Philly, Mike look at the
51:03
camera. Philly, my comes to you and
51:04
says, you want to get the car and go somewhere for this
51:06
weekend, for wrestling go? You will have a blast.
51:10
Yeah, I, yeah, it's, you're gonna get something out of it.
51:14
Hopefully. But so, yes.
51:21
It's fucking part of mise an asshole that doesn't drive.
51:24
And doesn't have his license or a fucking car, but exactly.
51:28
Like you said, I wouldn't hit up people that I know wouldn't
51:32
benefit from the Ian like when when I know you're coming,
51:36
you're driving me somewhere. I hit up.
51:38
The Promoter on will. Yo, bro.
51:39
What's commentary situation like such like I'm trying to get you
51:43
work before we even get there and if it doesn't work out 90%
51:47
of the time, it works out. It's very rare.
51:49
It doesn't like honestly the Grim show I literally just set
51:53
my GoPro up and I gave him another angle.
51:55
I don't think I ever used any of the footage when he seemed very
51:58
appreciative that I walked in with a camera and I was just
52:00
trying anything to participate, you know?
52:02
And I Checking the other day on your channel.
52:05
It's one that you're like most viewed video is something from
52:07
that show. Yeah, it's Riley beat the shit
52:10
out of you in the corner. Yeah.
52:11
Like it helps. It's a fucking 20-something
52:16
second clip, but it boosts like thousands of views on your
52:19
channel. It's simply because it was GTS
52:23
wrestling and it's, I can't stress enough, the power of a
52:28
GTS. The people like one of the
52:30
craziest things I ever saw. Was like Tick-Tock was first
52:35
starting to pop off and shit like that.
52:36
And at the time I had a custom wrestling theme.
52:39
I don't really use it anymore but it's a doesn't fit what I'm
52:44
doing right now. But I had a custom entrance
52:48
theme. It was on Tick-Tock.
52:50
The sound was on Tick-Tock. And I see, I was tagged in a
52:53
video and it was these two little brothers wrestling each
52:58
other in their living room. Like, as to the sound of the,
53:01
the Filly Mike song, And they're GTS, man, but they're, they're
53:06
from fucking Pakistan. Like it was, it was two little
53:09
boys. Little brothers wrestling each
53:11
other and Pakistan and it was just create like I the GTS fan
53:16
bases worldwide. I knew that I have fans and UK
53:19
Europe. All this shit.
53:20
That sounds fucking made up and bullshit like at the level I'm
53:23
at, but it's insane but that was the craziest video.
53:28
I got to see where I'm like holy shit like These kids know who
53:32
Philly, Mike is. I'm like fucking it's just, it's
53:37
crazy, it's crazy and you can pocket and coloring is one too
53:41
thin. So it looks like it's missing.
53:43
Listen everybody off. Yeah.
53:45
And like, dude, it's been times like I'm out in public just
53:48
somewhere. Nothing.
53:49
No, not wrestling related. And are you feeling Mike?
53:53
I've been walking home from fucking work or happened.
53:56
Guys, have pulled over and said, you know, you are you feeling
53:59
Mike? Like it's that's insane.
54:02
That's insane. They were my favorite wrestling
54:04
story is me, and you and a gas station.
54:06
And this cop wise, this is Grand cop walks in and wearing this
54:10
shape and Shaq, had he's wearing this hoodie and this cop walks
54:13
in and he kind of stands by us. No offense, my Greeks like a
54:17
weed. Oh yeah.
54:19
Oh yeah, MDK all day motherfucker.
54:29
And I was just like, Did I was like what?
54:32
I literally Lyle in the gases like this cops gang-affiliated,
54:36
I just stood there and looked at them.
54:37
I was like, no, fucking way to happen, bro.
54:40
Yeah, we talked to rustling forever with this, dude.
54:42
It's crazy. My favorite.
54:44
My favorite is a, like, I used to work at a gas station, like a
54:49
7-Eleven just working the fucking cashier spot, whatever.
54:53
But there's been times where people came in and have
54:55
recognized me thought they recognized me and like, would
54:58
leave and come back but like, yeah, I know.
55:00
I know we're seeing you from but like I used to wear like gcw
55:05
shirts or whatever there and a lot of people come in and
55:08
especially after the Cardone and Moxley when they would, they
55:12
came in and should have brought a whole new fan base to the
55:14
product. It'd be like, yo, I seen that
55:18
shit, I watch the video, I love that shit.
55:20
Fucking fucking Cardona. No.
55:22
Moxley gauge, all that. And I'm not one to be like, hey,
55:27
I was fucking ringside for that shit.
55:29
But like, it's just funny that like Some people be like, oh, I
55:32
think I recognize you somewhere or some people don't understand
55:35
that I was there at all or they do see like it's just funny, we
55:39
miss our backstage at outbreak and then the week after outbreak
55:42
Brian ordered the clusterfuck Battle Royal and he's like,
55:46
dude, Philly Mike's catching people like yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:50
There is, it's fucking ate the amount of lives.
55:55
I have potentially saved a GC. W is endless.
56:01
My favorite was like, I don't know what it is, dude about
56:03
wrestlers, like we'll do a lot of shit but sometimes some
56:07
wrestlers moment, it comes to catching a dive.
56:09
They're fucking pussies. They're just scared.
56:13
They're like, oh I'm gonna get hurt bro, but you'll fucking do
56:18
something off the top rope like later in the match and I take
56:22
pride in Catching people and dies.
56:24
I love that shit, dude. Like why a fucking hug those
56:27
motherfuckers when they come at you, bro?
56:28
It's not hard. It's really not.
56:30
You might get kicked in the head.
56:31
Yeah that sucks. But like catch that motherfucker
56:35
dude. They're trusting you the keyword
56:37
and wrestling is true else. If you can't get in there and
56:39
trust somebody when you're diving out of a goddamn ring and
56:43
dude you'll be lucky if you're working an indie show with ring
56:45
wood floor mats like something that's hard.
56:48
Is going to be a hard-ass floor like seriously so like started
56:54
really getting in there and shit like that.
56:56
There would be a couple of us but like I made it my like point
56:58
to get in there and like helped with the death.
57:00
Matches like would sometimes like people don't realize the
57:03
little shit that like when light tubes are broken need to crush
57:06
them up, get them out. The ring is that shit and
57:08
fucking gut you and fucking what you called, our stuff on the
57:16
ends or whatever. I'm yeah, exactly.
57:18
Yeah. There's just little things.
57:21
So the catching the Dives and all that, one of my favorite
57:24
times was down in Dallas, it was like a scramble match.
57:28
There was like seven motherfuckers in the match, but
57:29
Nick wey Did like a 6:30 or whatever.
57:32
He did to the outside and I even know it was a scramble would
57:36
like, six guys catching him. I made sure to get in there and
57:39
fucking help and I'm dead center in the middle and I eat all of
57:42
it. I just fucking catch them.
57:43
We go down this motherfucker, runs up to me later in the
57:46
night. He's like feeling like, dude,
57:47
he's like, I just want to thank you so much.
57:49
He's like, I watch that. He seemed to gift, won't fucking
57:51
Twitter. He said, I seen the GIF.
57:53
He's a, you fucking took all that here.
57:55
This kid was terrified to do the spot and he was like, he's like,
57:59
I don't trust like he was he wasn't.
58:00
Nervous doing good just to the floor and all these
58:03
motherfuckers are like we got you, we got you, we got you do
58:06
you watch this shit back? If I wasn't there he would have
58:08
went right to the fucking floor like that's what I don't get
58:12
about wrestlers like I watch and they watch a show one time where
58:15
a guy legit that he came through it for a suicide dive and the
58:18
guy literally and skin at the last second.
58:21
Dude, his head on the concrete was blood everywhere.
58:23
That's what I'm saying. Like dude, I watch Walking drew
58:26
blood smack his head on the fucking concrete, just poor
58:28
Elliot, should fucking Because I just nailed on the last spot.
58:32
Like what? The fuck?
58:33
He freaked out. He got scared.
58:34
Yep. Yeah, I like winter time.
58:37
We are getting close to the hour mark, so I don't want to go
58:39
super plus, I don't want to take time away from the next guest,
58:42
but uh, yeah, that's not a girl. Let's take her time.
58:44
Let's just delete. What's this?
58:46
But inch over in that time, fucker, since since you've been
58:50
dealing with this injury and like I said, we have the links
58:53
below, how has the reception been for people?
58:55
And how has, how has people like the support been for people
58:58
still like reaching out to you and And trying to do what they
59:01
can to help big time, like big. Like it's been insane.
59:04
Honestly. Like it was funny, but with the
59:07
GTS fan base because they when I put it out there about the knee
59:12
injury, they knew right away. They're like oh that's from that
59:14
match that you have in heaven in 2018.
59:17
Like they they pinpoint it right away and so that that that's
59:21
just been insane. Obviously they're there.
59:25
The reception from a GTS fan base is always insane but does
59:28
everybody like wrestlers reaching out?
59:30
Shit like that. Like wrestlers, hit me up from
59:35
merch and just some people sent me money just to fucking send me
59:38
money and usually, I'll just keep this help out, like, it's
59:41
been like endless support and, yeah, like you mentioned earlier
59:45
when we opened the show. We have that benefit show this
59:48
weekend night of Steel, High Ground Pro wrestling's.
59:52
First event, it's a benefit show for a dean of Steel in Philly,
59:56
Mike Swanson. I and there's going to be a good
59:59
amount of matches. A lot of wrestling matches.
1:00:01
What's an indie show? Without a lot of wrestling
1:00:03
matches. So yeah, it's going to be night
1:00:06
interested in drinking from what I've never been to the falcon's
1:00:10
nest but fairly bar, there is a bar.
1:00:12
So what more can you ask for? It doesn't matter.
1:00:16
Your the price of getting asked me that, oh, wow, the it doesn't
1:00:21
matter that the price of admission after that they were
1:00:23
bar and pro-wrestling the endless amounts of
1:00:25
opportunities. From there, you can Heckle, you
1:00:27
can yell, please come to the benefit show and All of these
1:00:31
pro wrestlers, they need it, they need some heckling in their
1:00:34
lives. How has it been for you to have
1:00:36
to sit back and then play that role of watching instead of
1:00:39
being a part of it? It's right now.
1:00:42
I keep telling people like, that's a lot of people been
1:00:43
asking me that and right now I'm chilling.
1:00:47
I guess you could say. Like, I'm definitely the ideas
1:00:50
are flowing like crazy, like as far as what I want to do for
1:00:53
when I come back but I haven't gotten to that like point where
1:00:57
I'm itchin like I want to get in there.
1:00:59
I want to wrestle. I wish I was.
1:01:00
Like right now I'm just I'm enjoying sitting back and
1:01:03
watching like I said, my friends do shit and just other people do
1:01:07
shit and like more people are getting to come to me but ideas
1:01:11
and they all this shit and I'm get like helping with feedback
1:01:14
and whatnot and I enjoy that. I like I always say I come up
1:01:18
with way better ideas for my friends than I do myself my
1:01:21
ideas for myself suck, bro. Most of my cool ideas of came
1:01:24
from other people but so it's just been cool.
1:01:28
Like I've been to Some very good Indie shows since the injury.
1:01:33
And I've been to some of the worst I've ever attended and I
1:01:38
get there and there's been a few times where I've gotten
1:01:41
genuinely fucking Med, because there shouldn't like some,
1:01:45
there's just some things that shouldn't be bad that are like,
1:01:50
at a wrestling show when you're back behind the curtain the
1:01:52
entire time, like you're working on your match and figuring out
1:01:55
your stuff. Exactly.
1:01:56
Don't see. 90% of the show. Exactly had the curry likewise
1:01:58
the crowd dead, and you're so I'm kind of, I'm kind of back
1:02:02
and fan mode right now. Like I'm going there, I like
1:02:05
observing everything and watching people and a lot like I
1:02:08
said, people been coming up to me, asking yo, what's up?
1:02:11
What's the deal? Like how was my match and shit
1:02:13
like that? And I've been telling plenty of
1:02:14
my people, my fucking peeps. I'm like yo that was shit bro.
1:02:18
It was garbage. It was what, what the fuck was
1:02:20
that? What was that finished?
1:02:21
I finish fell flat. Like what?
1:02:22
Like and some people it I like seeing how people take it
1:02:28
because some people will take it like what the Dude, like I
1:02:31
killed it. If you think you killed it, you
1:02:34
probably didn't have a big thing and it sounds dumb.
1:02:38
But if you think you're a good pro wrestler, you're probably
1:02:40
not. I all the good pro wrestlers.
1:02:43
I know don't think they're good. And that's, that's part of the
1:02:46
learning of wrestling. You're always learning.
1:02:48
You're constantly learning. You're constantly filling your
1:02:50
brain with new shit to adapt and rustlings always changing.
1:02:55
So, so to you, you need to be to be dude, being humble just like,
1:03:00
And just having your finger on the pulse with things and being
1:03:03
open-minded. And I've known wrestlers that
1:03:07
fucking 20 years, I've been in this business, but you've been
1:03:09
the same fucking thing for 20 years.
1:03:11
And that's why you're right here.
1:03:12
And I also like, dude, another big thing, if you have to tell
1:03:16
me how many years you've been wrestling, the I kind of
1:03:20
already, like, check you out of my brain.
1:03:22
You're kind of already like, like, I should know you've been
1:03:26
wrestling, 20 years. That should be an
1:03:28
accomplishment. I should know you've been Thing.
1:03:30
20 years, you shouldn't have to tell me.
1:03:32
Because if you been wrestling 20 years, and I like like everybody
1:03:37
who watches wrestling every goddamn weekend.
1:03:39
I've never fucking heard of you. That's what have you been doing
1:03:43
for 20 years without wrong? Dude.
1:03:46
What have you been doing for 20 fucking years and none of us
1:03:48
have ever heard of you? So it's a big thing with me like
1:03:52
guys, it's a lot of people get stuck in that like that 20-mile
1:03:57
radius bubble, you know. Yeah, it's exactly.
1:04:00
And like I said, with the whole Jersey thing, like, bro, you're
1:04:02
booked every single weekend and every single day to somewhere
1:04:05
within like driving distance in Jersey, that's not a flex.
1:04:09
You just, you you're cool with the promoter.
1:04:12
That that's all. I'm telling you right now just
1:04:14
from an outside experience. Dude, the Jersey scene is hungry
1:04:16
for new faces. That's why do you think, why do
1:04:19
you think there's carful zappy? A people coming to Jersey every
1:04:21
weekend at the same time? They don't know what the fuck
1:04:23
they're doing. Like PA products, at least have
1:04:26
like an idea for what they want out of their visit.
1:04:29
They have And the good dursley pictures.
1:04:32
Looking at going, you should come to PA jerseys booking
1:04:35
wrestling for the sake of book and wrestling, bro.
1:04:38
They don't have no there. I haven't seen one thing lately.
1:04:40
They had some sort of fucking unique Vision or like anything
1:04:44
different. Like it's just the sad thing is
1:04:46
a lot of times there is dirt, like I said, I'm very
1:04:49
fortunately part of good wrestling in Jersey, but every
1:04:52
single time you see Wrestling coming at a Jersey.
1:04:54
It's almost always. I'm - and we all know who I'm
1:04:57
talking about. It's like up.
1:04:58
Here's another dirty promotion with the cops.
1:05:00
To get involved because people were trying to fight the guy who
1:05:02
didn't pay him at the end of the night.
1:05:03
It's like that's what you're flexing about.
1:05:05
Jersey like that, that doesn't make your heading look good at
1:05:08
that point. It's just a ribbon themselves
1:05:10
and they're all marked for themselves to that point the
1:05:13
honestly like that's that's that's the big issue.
1:05:17
They do everything. The pop, the boys, instead of
1:05:19
worrying about putting butts in seats, if you're number one,
1:05:22
fucking priority is not putting fucking new fans in your seats
1:05:27
every month. What the what are you doing this
1:05:29
for fuck? Internet shit in your fucking
1:05:32
home and we're buddies again. Now, we're not buddies again,
1:05:34
dude. Oh, fuck off.
1:05:36
All right. Like you, you know, that tells
1:05:38
me nobody paid attention you in high school.
1:05:40
Nobody paid attention to a high school and now, the internet is
1:05:43
like a pop and thing, and you found a few found the community
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with in wrestling because that's easy and you feel welcomed, oh,
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your promoter. So now you have some sort of
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power and say, no, dude, you're still a fucking loser.
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Come on, bro. Like when you got some money,
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Man, let's let's let's kiss up to you.
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Yeah. They're, they're all they're in
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love with themselves. They love all the attention.
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I love the attention but for the sake of pro wrestling brother.
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We get on before we get unblocked, let's land this one.
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Philly Mike. I love you brother.
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Thank you so much. You're gonna see more freely
1:06:16
Mike now that he's actually finally set the microphone up
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on. Hopefully joining us on
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Thursdays and Fridays. A lot easier than I expected.
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Yeah, you nailed it. I seen the snapshots of you.
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Like listen to your own voice in your head.
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You're like But yeah, thank you Mike for hanging out joining.
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We're going to Quick take like a quick break here and we'll be
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back at 5:00 with our part to episode 27 and wonder highly
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Crow. Holy shit.
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No way you were able to book. Riley Crow.
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Yeah, well, it was, it was not easy.
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You know, I had to pull strings. I had to, I had to open up the
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checkbook. You know, damn, I was surprised.
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She didn't know sell your DMs, man.
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She's off. And she's a diva.
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She's a diva. She's a strange bird, you know,
1:07:00
straight He's very strange bird. Said of thee.
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Yes, this was fun. We will do it again.
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I'm going to make her. Do the waving inflatable arm to
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mend and oh, man, oh, here we go.
1:07:13
Yes, yes, make her do it. What it gets?
1:07:18
Better than Mike. Wow.
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Yeah, Alex Alex is, once again, links below to support Philly.
1:07:30
Mike. Got a t-shirt t-shirts,
1:07:32
eight-by-tens? Yeah, lighters I, I may use this
1:07:36
lighter every. Yes, there it is.
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I smoke cigarettes. Yeah, it does.
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I have lighters and t-shirts. If you don't like the stuff you
1:07:43
see online just hit me up bro. I got t-shirts.
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I'll ship them right out to you. Yeah, it's cool man.
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Only 25 bucks. We got this.
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I got for this guy. He'll do cameos.
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He'll help me kill. Send you a birthday card
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meetings. He'll do it.
1:07:56
Yeah, yeah, I will, I will book me in a cameo as This week
1:08:01
especially, because I'll make sure make it a point to send you
1:08:08
a insult, and make fun of you that your team is not in the
1:08:11
playoffs, and mine is so that, that'll not even the playoffs,
1:08:15
the Super Bowl motherfuckers. Yeah, so it should be a bit pay.
1:08:20
You 10 bucks for and don't go through Cameo, just private the
1:08:23
MU and then, yes, on a private DME 10 bucks.
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So they don't take any money from me.
1:08:29
They take a percentage. I see a little known fact,
1:08:32
everything they take percentage, so just I got cash up venmo
1:08:36
PayPal's. It hit me up, guys.
1:08:37
It's gonna be a money directly and I will I will send me.
1:08:40
I got a lot of free time guys and I got this cool microphone
1:08:42
set up now so I'll send you whatever.
1:08:44
Yeah and also if you want to book Mike on your own podcast
1:08:48
him up, he's got like I said yes get his name out there trying to
1:08:50
stay stay in the scene follow him on all social media and and
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show this guy some love. Thank you so much once again.
1:08:58
Mike can I see you? Will see you very very soon.
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Soon, I'll bless you all the time.
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I feel like, yes, yes, I'll be, I'll be seeing you Saturday at
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High Ground, Pro wrestling's. First ever event night of Steel
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benefit, for Edina, steel and Philly.
1:09:10
Mike Swanson. There it is right there, flash,
1:09:12
look at that. So the falcon's nest guys, I
1:09:15
heard it's pretty cool come check it out when you very, very
1:09:17
dull pain. You me and myself BP will be on
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commentary, it'd be a great time.
1:09:21
Come on out. If you can, if you can't, like I
1:09:23
said, just him up on social media show some love.
1:09:25
Leave those comments and likes and here's something tray.
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We're out of here.