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Ep. 191 The Fighting Chair w/ "Legacy Dad" Keyton Blocher (Privychat 49) · Privycast

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  And I just kind of looked over and I said, I wonder, and I saw a weed.
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  So I peed on the weed and like within hours it was dead.
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  No way that okay and it's just the radiation of it all like
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  so it's the leftover chemo chemicals.
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  Yeah in my body it.
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  my god.
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  I am I'm a weed killer
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  Well, hello everyone.
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  Welcome back to privy.
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  ah Privy is a podcast about bathrooms recorded from my home bathroom.
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  I'm your host, Hunter Hoover, and I love bathrooms.
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  And I am joined this episode via the internet across, I think, time zones by Keaton Blocker.
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  Did I get the last name right?
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  yeah, it's a blocker, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Keaton, I'm going to let you tell your story, but the short version is you have a cancer diagnosis and have had a lot of tribulation, I would say, in the last few years.
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  Keaton, I'm going to let you kind of introduce yourself further, tell folks what you want them, a listener to a bathroom podcast, to know about you.
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  Okay, well so my name is Keaton Blocker, like you said, I'm 26 years old.
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  I'm married to my wife Jessica Blocker, formerly Jessica Krupp.
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  And she and I have been married for six years, we'll be seven this next year.
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  We have a three year old son, his name is Rex.
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  Yeah, and...
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  The reason I started the Legacy Dad stuff was to inform people about some of the things that come up when you're dealing with cancer and just ways that people can help people
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  that are going through cancer.
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  I also wanted to, it's been a good outlet for me also.
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  It's helped me stay positive and that's kind of one of my mantras is, you know, being positive when everybody else wouldn't
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  So far it's worked out for me because it has opened a lot of doors.
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  Like a lot of doors.
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  It's been kind of crazy actually.
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  The Lord's been doing some pretty crazy stuff.
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  yeah.
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  Yeah, and share as much or as little as you want about this, but what is the cancer diagnosis, you know, stage?
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  And just to give, like, I know a bit just because I've interacted kind of vicariously through the internet via Legacy Dad and your other social media stuff, but yeah, where are
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  you at in the journey that is whatever that would be?
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  Yeah, so I'll kind of go back a little bit more towards the beginning and just kind of explain through some of it.
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  um So when I was born, I was born with a heart condition.
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  So I have what's called hypoplastic left heart syndrome.
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  So only the right side of my heart functions.
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  The left side is completely dead.
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  And the right side has been reconstructed.
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  They put two artificial chambers in my heart and rerouted everything.
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  So I'm a single ventricle uh heart.
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  So my one side pumps and does everything that both sides are supposed to do.
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  So that was like the kind of the start of my life was medical, weird medical stuff.
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  And my entire life have kind of been a gray area is what all my doctors and my parents have always called it my entire childhood was you're just kind of a gray area.
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  So I am probably in my personal cardiologist growing up in his office.
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  I was his
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  patient that had the least amount of like ancillary issues with the heart condition.
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  And I was actually one of his best functioning patients as well growing up.
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  And so when Jessica and I got married shortly after that, she joined the Air Force.
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  And so we ended up moving from Oregon to Mississippi, which is where we live now.
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  Northeastern Mississippi.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  So we're about an hour south of Chupilo, which is where Elvis was born.
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  Well there you go.
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  Yeah, so there's some pretty cool stuff here and we had been here literally a year before I got my cancer diagnosis.
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  Yeah.
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  what, so to ask a couple of questions, like growing up with significant heart defect, like what was that like, experientially, like the things that you, like, as you look back,
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  you're like, man, like this was different for me versus maybe other kids.
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  What were some of the things that were clear indicators of that?
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  So I couldn't play as long as a kid.
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  I had to take more breaks because I had poor oxygen circulation in my blood because of my heart condition.
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  If I was playing too hard or got too cold too fast, my lips would turn purple.
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  Hey.
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  So that was kind of one of my telltale, like, I'm tired.
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  I need to go sit down.
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  But I was never like, I don't know.
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  I kept up with my friends growing up, but like, it was extra work for me to keep up.
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  if that makes any sense.
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  um And I kind of took it on personally to just kind of be like, you know what?
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  It's not gonna affect me.
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  I'm gonna push through it and I'm gonna make it look like I never have anything wrong with me.
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  And I've been told a lot of times by folks that they were like, well, if I would have seen you just on the street, I would have never known.
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  So that's kind of what I go for for my goal.
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  oh Life was different as a child, definitely with a heart condition.
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  Everybody kind of, when you fell down, it was a little bit bigger of a deal.
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  Every time I ended up in the doctor's office or the ER or anything like that as a kid or growing up as a teenager, I always had to get an EKG and an ultrasound and an
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  echocardiogram and just like all these different tests just because of my heart condition.
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  was like, I walk through the door and they're like, you need this, this, this, this and this.
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  Like, it was just, it was a myriad of testing and blood work and all sorts of stuff every single time I was at the doctor, so.
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  Wow, yeah, and you know, like, did that, was that, I'm trying to figure out the right way to ask this, but like, when people would react in that way, whether it's, you you fall or
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  whatever that is, was that more difficult?
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  Like, when did you become aware that people kind of reacted differently?
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  So I kind of figured out around like fourth or fifth grade that people were treating me different.
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  Yeah.
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  And it was more so my teachers than it was like my peers because we were young kids and they didn't really understand too much.
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  Yeah, they're like, come on, man, let's go.
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  Yeah, they're like dude gosh, you're so tired.
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  You're out of shape.
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  Come on.
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  Let's go and I'm like, no, I'm just don't okay.
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  Yeah, cool
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  You're like, why don't you give it a try, buddy?
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  Yeah, for real.
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  but yeah, around fourth or fifth grade is kind of when I noticed people started to, I guess, treat me different.
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  Yeah.
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  But my family, you know, they tried to as hard as possible, like make it everything normal for me.
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  I got to do all the extracurricular activities I wanted besides football.
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  didn't, I was never allowed to play football, which may have been a good thing just because tackles, tackle sports are a lot harder on your body.
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  So, but I did all the things I played baseball, soccer, basketball.
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  I was a fencer actually.
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  did fencing in end of middle school, all the way through high school.
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  I did it for about six years.
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  Did you do that as part of the school?
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  Like did the school have that as an activity for you to do or?
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  No, so I did it privately.
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  My instructor was actually a guy who had taught a few of the Olympians for TUSA that did fencing.
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  So, yeah, he's, he was really good at fencing.
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  So yeah, I did that and I didn't like compete or anything really too much with it, but that kind of stopped around who I'd say sophomore year of high school because I had joined
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  choir in high school and
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  took up a majority of my time.
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  As a freshman, I got into the chamber choir, which you had to try out for.
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  And then as a sophomore, which is, it was very rare at the time for a sophomore to get into the acapella group, but I got into the acapella program as well.
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  so by my senior year, I was the president of the choir program.
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  And so I just kinda, I made choir like my thing in high school.
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  That and drama, I used to act a lot.
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  Yeah.
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  So, I mean, I had fun and I did different, I guess you'd say activities than most people, but I mean, I enjoyed it.
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  I danced and that's pretty strenuous.
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  Yeah.
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  Because we did musicals and things like that, so I had to do like the waltz and the dolly-poka and all that kind of stuff.
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  Man, that's yeah.
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  Was this public high school?
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  Yeah, yeah, so down in Roseburg, Oregon, was Roseburg High School.
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  Yes.
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  dude, I'm like a, I'm an Oregon transplant.
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  So I grew up Montana and then I came out here in 2012 to go to college, went to college, never really left.
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  And so like all the Bergs, know, Roseburg, Newburgh, all it's, it's always fascinating, but like, yeah, it's, it's a cool place to, to, I dunno, it's, it's a strange thing.
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  Like politically it's weird, but it's such a beautiful state.
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  Yeah.
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  And then you look around and you're like, what is going on though?
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  How do we have all this and we're just not happy with so much?
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  Because now I'm in Albany and it's fine.
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  They call it Smallbany for a reason.
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  oh But before you went to Mississippi, had you ever been to the South at all?
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  So yeah, earlier on in Jess and I's marriage, we went on a missions trip to South Carolina and we helped rework a church property for African Christian Fellowship International.
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  Yeah, so, and I had been on a couple of missions trips, like as a teenager I went down to La Misión, Mexico and helped build an orphanage down there and did some fun stuff there
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  and then I did a night strike in Portland a few times.
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  What is
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  That is where they take over underneath one of the big bridges in Portland and they just set up tables.
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  They bring a trailer out and they give out donated clothes to homeless.
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  feed them.
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  that's cool.
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  like hairstylists that will volunteer their time to give haircuts.
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  They have nail salon people that will come out and if they're a female or like a kid, they'll paint their nails.
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  And then they had like churches that would come out and feed.
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  And then what we did was we just played card games with everybody while they ate and asked them questions, asked them if they needed anything question wise about the Lord that they
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  needed answered and all that kind of stuff.
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  yeah, so that was pretty fun.
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  Yeah, no, mean, it sounds fun.
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  also sounds like, I don't know, Portland has kind of increasingly got worse and worse and more dangerous in that specific area.
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  And so like, it could also be a little harrowing, I imagine, especially, you know, the younger you are, but that's super.
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  Cool.
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  Yeah.
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  I was going to ask, you've mentioned your faith a couple times.
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  When did that, and it's weird because I do another show that's more faith-based than a thing about bathrooms.
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  But when did your faith become a reality and a thing that you had as a key part of your life?
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  So I would say I got baptized when I was like 12, I think by my grandfather and I wouldn't I would say you know, I kind of had that kid relationship with God up until about I'd say
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  15 16 And that's kind of really where I was I kind of hit a point where I was like, oh I either need to take this seriously or not at all and Because if I'm not taking it
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  seriously, it's basically
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  not even doing anything.
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  And then, let's see, I ended up going to Bible College over in Idaho, which is where I met- Yes, Boise Bible College.
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  It's awesome.
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  Yeah, and that's where Jessica and I met.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah, and we were on the same worship team together.
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  So that's how we met.
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  So this is actually fascinating.
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  So weird, happenstance.
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  Like I was, I was, I was Jess's youth slash young adult leader for like a minute.
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  Truly.
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  She came in as a senior was like, Hey, what's up?
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  I think board games are cool.
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  I'm heading out to Boise Bible college.
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  And I'm like, great, you know, come to these events.
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  I went to like her graduation thing.
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  And then she, you know, she was off to college.
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  And so I guess it's fascinating that y'all met at Boise, but we're like so close over here.
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  You guys had never, had you ever crossed paths over here at all?
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  Yes, and we didn't know.
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  what we talked about was I was like, yeah, I was at this or like I was at C.I.Y.
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  or I was at like this Brad Paisley concert and she was like, well, I was there too.
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  And I was like, what?
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  Like it was just kind of a cool happenstance thing.
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  Because I mean, know, Roseburg and Brownsville are an hour and a half away from each other.
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  Right.
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  There's a lot of big events, know, Corvallis, all that kind of area that I went to that she was at too, that I just, we never ran into each other until college.
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  She says it's good because I wouldn't have liked her before college and she would not have liked me as a...
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  doozy teen- so...
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  Dude, my wife and I have had that exact conversation.
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  It's like, we would have hated each other in high school.
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  eh I gave off a pretty, I am going to look for the thing that irritates you vibe and then push that button continuously.
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  And my wife has six siblings and didn't have time for that.
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  So.
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  Wouldn't put up with it for you, huh?
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  No.
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  yeah, she sorted that out in me pretty quick, but no, that's super cool.
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  And so how has like receiving this cancer diagnosis and all of the heart stuff that you go, and I imagine those two things, you know, meeting is not great.
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  So yeah, go ahead and share like how does that worsen it.
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  So, well I'll kind of talk about the things that I started to notice before I got diagnosed.
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  Yes, yeah.
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  Because that to me is something that's super important.
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  um So, I woke up one morning and like, you know this spot where like your leg bends into your head?
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  Yeah.
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  Kind of like by your thighs.
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  That was swollen.
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  And I was like, this is weird.
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  I wonder what's going on.
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  And so, you know, my son was about to be born in like two months and...
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  I was like, I don't need to go to the doctor.
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  I'm fine.
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  I'm not feeling sick.
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  It's just swollen.
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  Maybe it's just fat.
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  Maybe I'm getting fat.
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  Like, you know, I was like, I'm heavier than I've ever been.
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  I put on sympathy weight when Jess was pregnant and eh I was like, yeah, okay.
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  Maybe I'm just getting bigger and that's where the fat's going to come out right there.
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  I don't know.
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  Maybe I have a weird spot.
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  And so I went on for a couple months like that where I was like, okay, this swelling is not going away.
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  And I was like, but then again, I could be getting fat.
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  So maybe it's just me.
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  And uh,
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  And then we ended up, there was one night where I was driving after our son Rex was born.
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  We were on our way home from grocery shopping and I looked at my wife and I said, I haven't felt good all day.
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  And she's like, what do mean?
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  And I was like, I don't know.
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  I feel like I'm running a fever.
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  was like, I'd go outside, stand in the sun, then it'd get too hot.
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  Then I'd go inside.
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  And as soon as I walked inside, I was too cold.
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  So I go back outside and I was like, and I just, I like, I don't know.
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  I just don't feel good.
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  And she's like, oh, that's weird.
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  And then I was like,
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  30 seconds went by and I said, I need to pull over, I'm gonna pass out.
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  You need to drive.
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  And so we went straight to the urgent care and I had 104 degree fever.
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  Yeah, so it was pretty quick like that.
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  And previously, so for the last few months before that, I had been coughing a lot.
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  We actually came back to visit with our two month old son in February.
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  to Oregon to go visit family and see people that haven't made it out to Mississippi to see us.
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  And I was coughing the whole time we were there and everybody's like, you okay?
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  And I was like, yeah, I don't, I don't, maybe we're just accustomed to Mississippi and like, it's, it's not as humid or something weird or, know, it's Lynn County, it's grassy
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  capital of the world, allergies, whatever.
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  And so I just didn't think anything of it.
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  And then when that fever thing happened after our Oregon trip, we were like, okay, we should probably check into that.
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  And they said, well, you know, there is some stuff going around.
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  It's not COVID.
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  It's not like a flu, but it's like, like a virus, you know, that we've been seeing where people are coughing and having high fevers.
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  And I was like, okay, cool.
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  Just need an antibiotic.
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  And so what they did was they put me on an antibiotic and then a month went by and nothing changed.
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  And so they were like, okay, let's get you an ultrasound because of the swollen spot.
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  And so they ultrasound it and she's like, well, it looks like you could have a
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  infection in your lymph nodes.
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  And I was like, okay, never heard of that, but I guess it could happen because you're saying that it's a thing.
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  And so, yeah, I was like, I'm not.
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  Yeah.
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  And so we waited a while and they were like, sometimes it's going to go on your way, go away on their own.
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  And so it was, it was April and I was like, I'm still not getting better.
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  Like what's going on?
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  And then they were like, well, is that spots to swollen?
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  And I said, yeah.
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  And they said, okay, come on in.
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  We're going to get a biopsy of it.
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  We're gonna take a needle and we're gonna go down in and take a sample of the tissue and pull it out.
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  Yeah.
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  Yo, I'm not a big fan of needles.
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  I know it's like a stupid complaint for me, but like...
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  Yeah, no, I get it.
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  Yeah, I don't like them either.
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  I've had to deal with them way too much.
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  Yeah.
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  But so we they did the needle biopsy and the initial one came back inconclusive and they were like, okay, we have to have a yes or no.
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  And so they did another one and that one they didn't get enough samples.
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  And so I went back a third time and they did what's called an incisional biopsy where they just cut it open and remove a larger chunk so they make sure they have enough.
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  So by the third biopsy,
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  We finally got some answers.
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  I was at work that day and my phone rang and I was like, it's the doctor's office.
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  So I like stepped out the back door out at work and I worked at a hardware store.
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  was the sales and marketing manager for a hardware company.
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  And so I step out the back door and the doctor goes, hey, so we got your results back.
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  And it was a military doctor.
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  So, you know, sometimes they don't have the best head side manner.
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  And he was like, you have cancer.
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  Just like that.
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  Like that was it.
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  And I was like, what do you mean?
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  And he was like, well, so we think you have non-Hodgkin's lymphoma.
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  And he was like, but the way yours presents it could be classical Hodgkin's.
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  And he was like, the difference between those two is Hodgkin's, non-Hodgkin's is not aggressive.
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  Hodgkin's is the most aggressive out of that family.
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  Yeah.
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  And so we did another biopsy to narrow it down and it was classical Hodgkin's lymphoma stage three.
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  Man.
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  They said when they found it based on the size after I did my PET scan to show like where all the cancer was, they said, probably had this for a year.
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  And you just didn't know.
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  And I was like, how does that even happen?
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  Like, I just didn't know anything about cancer.
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  I knew my aunt had had breast cancer.
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  Like that was about as far as my knowledge had gone with cancer.
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  And so my first phone call after that was Jess, my wife.
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  I called her and I said, hey,
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  I'm gonna come home, you and I need to talk.
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  I got a call back from the doctor.
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  And I was like, they said it's cancerous, but I want to talk to you.
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  And so, you know, she rushed home, I rushed home.
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  My boss was like, yeah, just take the day.
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  She was like, don't come back.
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  You're good.
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  Yeah.
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  And I was like, well, thank you.
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  So I went back home and we talked about it and it just kind of felt like our life just kind of blew up right there.
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  Yeah.
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  Like in the matter of minutes, it was like, okay.
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  What's our next move?
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  And one of the crazy things that nobody really talks about with cancer is all of the waiting that you have to do.
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  So I got my diagnosis and then it was a whole month before I started any treatments.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah.
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  So yeah, you have to, it's it's a long process.
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  And so I did the first round of chemo that I did was every other week.
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  And I did that for a little over a year.
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  Um, and those infusions were about eight hours long.
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  I'd get there in the morning when the place would open and I was usually the last person to leave.
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  Other than the nurses.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, and so that.
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  That kind of leads into your question about the complexity that the heart condition and the cancer add to each other.
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  Yeah.
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  So because of the heart condition, ever since the beginning, all of the different doctors have been scared to do something because they don't know what they can do, if that makes
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  sense.
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  Because they don't know, they're like, well, if you have a normal heart, we know how much tolerance you'll have for this medication that's toxic to your heart.
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  But with you, we have no idea.
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  So we skirted around that option as much as we could.
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  We tried, you know, just the side with the side medications that came with the big red, the red one that's they call it the red devil.
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  And we did.
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  So we did a year of that and then it went away.
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  And we were excited, I rang the bell, I got a certificate for finishing chemo, we thought I was cancer free, it was over.
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  45 days later it came back.
• 22:43
  Wow.
• 22:44
  And so they said because I wasn't in remission for more than three months, they don't consider it full remission.
• 22:50
  So uh it came back and they said, okay, well now we're not a hundred percent sure what to do, but what we're going to do is we're going to do the lowest dose at the slowest speed
• 23:02
  of the red medication.
• 23:04
  Yeah, wow.
• 23:06
  And I lost all my hair.
• 23:07
  Went bald, had no facial hair, all my chest hair fell out, like everything.
• 23:14
  Eyebrows were gone, like everything just left.
• 23:17
  Yeah.
• 23:19
  And so we went from that to, hey, it's getting smaller, but we're not sure what we're going to do to get it to go away for cure.
• 23:27
  Cause at that point they were shooting for cure.
• 23:31
  so I went to MD Anderson over in Houston, Texas, and they took all my case.
• 23:38
  The head of the lymphoma department took all my case and said, um, I'm to talk to some colleagues of mine and we'll see what we can figure out.
• 23:45
  And then about I'd say two or three weeks after that.
• 23:48
  trip to Texas and back.
• 23:50
  He calls me and he goes, so I hate to call you a case because you're my patient.
• 23:55
  And he goes, but you're the first case recorded in history of these two together.
• 24:02
  That's crazy.
• 24:03
  He was like, I talked to all my colleagues.
• 24:05
  We tried to reference everything we could.
• 24:07
  We tried keyword searching, all of the everything on medical journals, everything.
• 24:11
  He was like, we can't find anything about how to deal with this, with your heart condition and this cancer.
• 24:17
  And so he goes, everything that we do is going to just be thrown spaghetti at the wall and seeing if it sticks.
• 24:24
  Because he was like, obviously we don't want to hurt you, but we also don't want the cancer to be what is the end.
• 24:32
  And so we, did radiation treatment, which I had to do at MD Anderson because of my organs being different with my heart condition.
• 24:43
  caused my liver to be enlarged and I have an enlarged spleen, which it just, that's a normal thing for somebody with my heart condition.
• 24:52
  And so, but that makes shooting radiation beams into your body a little harder when things are bigger than they're supposed to be.
• 24:59
  And so what we did was.
• 25:01
  A month before radiation, I went down to Texas and they put me on this big machine and they scanned my body, like 3D scanned everything.
• 25:09
  And then they spent a month practicing on the scan on the computer to do the radiation for me before I even laid on the table.
• 25:20
  They were working on it for a month.
• 25:24
  yeah, it's been a lot of...
• 25:27
  firsts for a lot of people that have been near me with this.
• 25:33
  And doctors especially.
• 25:35
  So we did radiation and surprisingly radiation ended up making me feel better when I got back home.
• 25:45
  So I'm normally like 150 to 175 pounds.
• 25:49
  When I got home from radiation I was 123.
• 25:52
  Woof, okay.
• 25:54
  Yeah.
• 25:55
  So, and that was actually one of the initial signs too that I was getting sick.
• 25:58
  I lost 40 pounds in a month.
• 26:01
  Gosh.
• 26:02
  Yeah.
• 26:03
  So it was 30 days.
• 26:04
  was 30 days and I lost four pounds.
• 26:06
  40 pounds.
• 26:06
  Sorry.
• 26:10
  weight has been a big fluctuating thing with me, but...
• 26:16
  So they did radiation treatment and we waited a little while and then we got another PET scan and it was gone.
• 26:22
  Again.
• 26:23
  And we were excited but we were also kind of waiting a bated breath like, what's going on?
• 26:29
  And then three months later it was back.
• 26:32
  So now we're on fight number three.
• 26:35
  Yeah?
• 26:37
  And in July, they said, hey, we've kind of run out of options as far as what we can keep trying.
• 26:46
  And so they said, we're going to put you on what we like to call a palliative chemo or a maintenance chemo.
• 26:52
  And they said, realistically, probably about two to five years.
• 26:56
  They said, if everything goes well and you respond to treatment and the tumor shrink and things go great, they said, we could see 10.
• 27:05
  Maybe 15, but so that's kind of where we're at currently.
• 27:12
  I'm going through chemo every four weeks now.
• 27:15
  My infusions are only half a day now.
• 27:20
  they are not.
• 27:21
  um And we're just kind of preparing for the reality and praying for a miracle at the same time.
• 27:31
  Yeah.
• 27:32
  Yeah, that's where we've ended up and that's kind of the journey story of how we got to where we're at now.
• 27:38
  So there's been a lot of emotional up and downs and physical up and downs and hospital visits.
• 27:45
  like this last, in October, I was in the hospital for a little over a week and I ended up getting put on the BiPAP breathing machine for two straight days because I just stopped
• 27:54
  breathing.
• 27:55
  Wow.
• 27:57
  And it was mainly when I fell asleep, I would just stop breathing.
• 28:01
  And so they thought they were going to lose me twice.
• 28:05
  So I've been this close.
• 28:08
  Yeah.
• 28:09
  Well, and I know like we've been in conversations for this episode for some time and that's kind of why I kind of, you know, it's one of those where I've kind of been waiting
• 28:21
  in the wind mostly because I know that you've got not just a lot going on with your health, but also a lot going on with family and making time count.
• 28:31
  You know, I'm sure that that's a high like factored component.
• 28:37
  And then also, you know,
• 28:39
  Seeing these updates from Jess and others about your hospital trip in October, it's just like, I'm sitting here going, you know what?
• 28:46
  I'm hunkering down and praying.
• 28:49
  We're not worried about scheduling.
• 28:51
  That's why when you send me that, I'm I'm going.
• 28:55
  If he's going, I'm going.
• 28:56
  Dude, thank you for sharing all of that.
• 29:00
  I know that's probably heavy.
• 29:03
  I know you've shared it probably a few times now, but.
• 29:06
  Does it get more or less easy to share every time you do?
• 29:10
  So I think that I'm a different kind of animal when it comes to that just because I grew up with a medical condition and so to me that's just kind of a normal thing for me to have
• 29:23
  a lot of information about it when people are curious I just tell them.
• 29:27
  So but yeah it is pretty heavy.
• 29:30
  I tell some of my friends like you know if I don't keep busy then I go crazy.
• 29:36
  And...
• 29:37
  Look at that.
• 29:38
  I have to, I saw a thing one time that uh was basically this guy was like in the morning when I wake up I pray and I ask God please get in my head before I do.
• 29:50
  And so I've had to try to kind of take that kind of an attitude towards every day because if I start off going what are we gonna do then it's like do do spiral.
• 30:03
  How has your faith played a role throughout the cancer diagnosis and all this treatment and you know?
• 30:12
  Yeah, so at the beginning, I was really angry.
• 30:15
  I was really confused and I just was very upset.
• 30:18
  I was like, you know, like, what did I do?
• 30:20
  Like, why do I deserve this?
• 30:21
  Like, you know, was there something I did that could have prevented this?
• 30:25
  Was there, you know, I went through all of the things.
• 30:28
  Right.
• 30:28
  I went through the denial.
• 30:29
  I went through the blaming God.
• 30:30
  I went through the blaming other people.
• 30:32
  I went through the, you know, all of it.
• 30:34
  And I went, you know, all the robot chicken giraffe video, the whole thing.
• 30:39
  Well, throwback there for anybody that's seen that one.
• 30:42
  ah It's just one of those things that when you're in it, you just kind of become numb, if that makes any sense.
• 30:51
  There's still some things that like, if somebody says something the wrong way, sometimes, sometimes it'll catch me off guard and like hurt my feelings a little bit.
• 31:01
  But I've had to consistently tell myself because of my faith, you know,
• 31:06
  God didn't make people to wake up in the morning and go, I'm going to ruin that guy's day.
• 31:10
  Right.
• 31:11
  And so I need to just take it into account that everybody's in their own world and they may not be noticing me and that's okay.
• 31:22
  Right.
• 31:23
  which is a hard one to adapt with cancer on board because it's kind of like, but it feels like the world's against me because it's very isolating.
• 31:34
  Even like within my family group, like people are like, I get it.
• 31:39
  I understand.
• 31:39
  I'm like, no, you don't.
• 31:41
  Right.
• 31:41
  Like you just don't.
• 31:43
  Yeah.
• 31:44
  I've had family members tell me that they're, they're hurt knee.
• 31:46
  They understand my pain because I have a hurt knee or I have a, yeah.
• 31:51
  So there's some things that you do.
• 31:54
  That's why I'm like, I don't like needles, but I'm going to try to shut up about it.
• 31:59
  That's like I shared kind of before is I've also learned a lot just kind of seeing your updates and the things you post because my grandmother had cancer, but she was much older.
• 32:14
  Yeah.
• 32:15
  And my uncle right now has cancer and he's also got diabetes and it's like...
• 32:21
  He's also older.
• 32:22
  And so like a lot of their care was, you know, it's like, well, we're going to see what we can do, but it was, it's just, it's so different.
• 32:30
  And that's why I'm learning.
• 32:31
  Like even, I was so young with my grandmother that I saw you like going in for transfusion.
• 32:37
  And I went, I guess I thought that chemo was like the radiation.
• 32:42
  I didn't really put that together that like chemo was a thing that is pumped into or, you know, I,
• 32:49
  Yeah.
• 32:49
  I was like learning.
• 32:50
  I'm like, okay, this is, this is something else.
• 32:52
  oh
• 32:53
  it's actually really interesting.
• 32:55
  So my first chemo treatment I started was just like a regular IV like when you go to the ER.
• 32:59
  Yeah.
• 33:01
  And after about a month of treatment, it started to burn my veins, the medication.
• 33:08
  And so we went in and I had a surgery and I got this guy put in.
• 33:14
  Right now there's a bandaid on it, but it's called a port.
• 33:19
  And it's like a little bump under my skin that goes straight into my heart artery and it like distributes the medication like throughout my body like that.
• 33:29
  Wow, that's crazy.
• 33:31
  so that it doesn't like damage my veins, blow my veins out, all that kind of stuff.
• 33:36
  Yeah.
• 33:37
  Wow.
• 33:39
  So I will admit, cause I want to, I want to take like jump into this moderately slow, but I do have, I do have bathroom related questions too.
• 33:51
  And I don't ask these and listener, if you're hearing this, it's like for goodness sakes Hunter, like the man's telling you his story and he's getting ready to jump in with his
• 33:59
  bathroom.
• 34:00
  But like, I have just too much curiosity of,
• 34:06
  And you're, you're very open and transparent with this, which is one of the things that stood out.
• 34:10
  And it's like, I got to like, have you noticed any bathroom change?
• 34:16
  Whether it's, you know, through any part of this journey, whether it's the heart stuff growing up, mean, you know, like what's, what's the bathroom sitch like on chemo, you
• 34:27
  know?
• 34:28
  so growing up with a heart condition, never really had anything different like bathroom wise.
• 34:34
  That wasn't really an issue for me.
• 34:36
  But with cancer, it's a whole nother animal.
• 34:40
  So when you get chemo, chemotherapy is still like, like a radiating chemical in your body.
• 34:51
  for the first 48 hours after I get chemo, I'm not allowed to be around my wife or my son.
• 34:58
  Whoa, okay.
• 34:59
  Actually, I can be around Jess now, but when she was nursing, I couldn't be around her.
• 35:04
  Right, right.
• 35:06
  And I can't be around anybody under the age of 18 for the first 48 hours because their body, like if they did touch like my sweat or I coughed or something like that, it can
• 35:18
  burn them.
• 35:20
  Gosh, really?
• 35:21
  didn't know that.
• 35:22
  That's
• 35:23
  Yeah, so and I actually I have a really funny story.
• 35:26
  So I find out that I have these these things that life has blessed me with because of cancer and so I call them superpowers even though they're not.
• 35:39
  One of them being mosquitoes and bugs can smell the chemo and don't touch me.
• 35:45
  There you go.
• 35:47
  which, you know, it's a win.
• 35:52
  And then I have a pretty big lot at our house.
• 35:56
  We live on an acre and we have a big fenced backyard and I was doing some yard work one day and I was like, man, I really have to, I have to pee.
• 36:03
  And I just kind of looked over and I said, I wonder, and I saw a weed.
• 36:08
  So I peed on the weed and like within hours it was dead.
• 36:13
  No way that okay and it's just the radiation of it all like
• 36:18
  Yeah, so it's the leftover chemo chemicals in my body.
• 36:22
  Oh my gosh.
• 36:23
  I'm a weed killer.
• 36:25
  How's it say dude, European weed killer, that's wild.
• 36:28
  Yeah, so the superpowers, right?
• 36:31
  Dude, man, not like bottle, this is weird, but like I wouldn't make a show about bathrooms without being, but like, dude, you could bottle this and sell like quote unquote organic.
• 36:42
  I don't know if that's still technically true, but like organic weed killer.
• 36:45
  It's like, hey guys, home brood.
• 36:47
  That's what it is.
• 36:47
  Yeah, it's home brood.
• 36:50
  Okay, I got a bajillion now, but is the pee a different color?
• 36:54
  Yeah, it's darker.
• 36:57
  It's always darker.
• 36:58
  Even if I'm hydrated, it's dark.
• 37:00
  Man.
• 37:01
  Yeah.
• 37:01
  Okay.
• 37:01
  Wow.
• 37:02
  That's crazy.
• 37:04
  Yeah.
• 37:04
  Did you tell Jess about that?
• 37:06
  yeah, she was like, that's funny.
• 37:08
  And I was like, yeah, it is really funny actually.
• 37:11
  So, cause I was like, I was just curious.
• 37:13
  And so I did.
• 37:14
  And that's what happened was it died.
• 37:18
  Now you gotta be careful though, because if you ever tried to like just pee on a spot that you didn't want dead, it's gonna be like, oh gosh darn it.
• 37:26
  Yeah, I gotta keep it in the back of my head now
• 37:29
  Yeah, I've bungled the lawn, no.
• 37:32
  Man, so okay, was there any other sort of bathroom peculiarities?
• 37:37
  Does it give you, not to be crass, but does it give you diarrhea?
• 37:42
  it gives you all the things.
• 37:43
  gives you diarrhea, constipation, stomach pain.
• 37:46
  gives you, sometimes you can get incontinence because of it.
• 37:50
  Sometimes you can get so backed up that like just nothing will come out, you all that kind of stuff.
• 37:56
  And it just depends on what chemo you're doing, because there's thousands of them.
• 38:00
  um So mine, the main thing is diarrhea.
• 38:05
  And then the other one is constipation on that side effect.
• 38:08
  So they're like you could either be stopped up or you could just be losing everything.
• 38:11
  It's just kinda
• 38:13
  Oh, what a joy to balance.
• 38:17
  Yeah, and one of the things that chemo does is it also harms your other organs in your body to a certain extent because it's poison.
• 38:25
  I try to use my best radio announcer voice when people are like, what are you doing tomorrow?
• 38:29
  I'm like, I'm going on in to get my regularly scheduled dose of poison.
• 38:35
  try to be as jokester about it as I can.
• 38:39
  So one of the other changes with the bathroom that comes with chemo,
• 38:45
  is during that quarantine period, I have to flush twice.
• 38:50
  So if I use the restroom, either one, if I use number two, number one, if I flush it once, there's still a possibility, they said that testing has shown them there's a possibility
• 39:01
  of the radiation just sticking within the bowl.
• 39:06
  And so you flush again to like pull everything out of the bowl.
• 39:11
  so that the next person that sits down isn't sitting over top of all these radiating chemicals.
• 39:18
  That's wild.
• 39:19
  Yeah, yeah, basically Iron Man and I fell into a vat.
• 39:23
  Yeah, yeah.
• 39:26
  Man, do you, and you've experienced both the the stopped up and the going too much with yours or has it been?
• 39:34
  It's just unfair.
• 39:35
  it, really, you know, exactly.
• 39:39
  Because then I imagine, you know, my wife's had some like stomach related stuff in the past.
• 39:45
  Nothing, probably nothing to that extreme, I'm sure.
• 39:48
  But like.
• 39:49
  she's had stuff where it fluctuates and it's like, know, honestly, if it was just one, I feel like I could, but I don't know which one it's gonna be today.
• 39:58
  Like, what are we gonna do today?
• 40:00
  And it's, I imagine that's a chore.
• 40:02
  Yes, yeah it is.
• 40:04
  And one thing that chemo did do was it damaged my pancreas.
• 40:09
  So your pancreas is what creates the enzymes to break down your food.
• 40:15
  so I at one point just started bleeding out the back.
• 40:21
  No.
• 40:22
  Yeah, just copious amounts of blood.
• 40:25
  I had to give four full units of blood one time when I went into the hospital.
• 40:31
  And and, and that, all that much blood had come out, like, the SS backside?
• 40:37
  Yup.
• 40:38
  Yeah.
• 40:40
  it was quick.
• 40:41
  Like, it was like, I went to bathroom the first time, I looked down, there was nothing but red liquid.
• 40:45
  And then for like the next hour after that, I was like, okay, maybe it's just once.
• 40:49
  I like, know, Jess's dad is a paramedic and they live here with us now most of the year.
• 40:55
  And so um I told him, was like, I need you to come look at something.
• 41:00
  And then I took a picture of it.
• 41:01
  Yeah, I took a picture of it, which sounds really weird, but.
• 41:05
  Not on this show, it doesn't.
• 41:07
  I'll promise you that.
• 41:09
  And then I sent it to one of my dad's old bosses who used to be in oncology.
• 41:15
  And I said, hey, she's like another grandma to me.
• 41:18
  I was like, hey, Melody, this is what happened.
• 41:21
  What do you think?
• 41:21
  She was like, you need to go get a colonoscopy.
• 41:24
  And I was like, great.
• 41:25
  She was like, you may even need an endoscopy, which is the top end.
• 41:30
  So we tried to look for somebody locally that would do it and nobody was comfortable with it because of my heart condition.
• 41:36
  And so I never got that done.
• 41:39
  I ended up in the hospital a few times because of bleeding.
• 41:42
  So they put me on a medication that just coats the lining of your stomach.
• 41:46
  That way if there's any small ulcers that are bleeding or anything like that, it kind of seals them over.
• 41:54
  so that was a fun change.
• 41:57
  And then because of the whole pancreas thing, for a good month I was not gaining any weight.
• 42:03
  And I was kind of fluctuating down slowly and we were trying to figure out why.
• 42:09
  every single day for a few months was nothing but diarrhea.
• 42:13
  And it was just liquid.
• 42:15
  There was nothing else.
• 42:16
  I was losing all my water.
• 42:17
  I was losing all the protein.
• 42:18
  I was losing everything.
• 42:20
  And so we finally ended up at a GI specialist and they did a test and they said, so your cankeris doesn't create the enzyme anymore.
• 42:28
  So we're going to give you the enzyme to take.
• 42:31
  So now if I have a meal, I have to take three pills.
• 42:36
  Yep.
• 42:36
  It's called Creon.
• 42:38
  Yep.
• 42:38
  That's what it is.
• 42:41
  My wife's dabbled in them.
• 42:43
  She's dabbled?
• 42:44
  Yeah.
• 42:46
  They're, dude, they're weird.
• 42:47
  Like, they are.
• 42:49
  They look like little pills filled with pellets.
• 42:51
  That's what they tell people.
• 42:52
  It's like hamster pellets.
• 42:54
  Yeah, kinda.
• 42:56
  But I carry them.
• 42:57
  It does.
• 42:58
  yeah.
• 42:58
  Ever since I got that, like no issues.
• 43:01
  Which is perfect.
• 43:02
  Yeah.
• 43:03
  I'm so glad that we went and did that because I was like, heck yeah.
• 43:07
  Like let's make this happen.
• 43:08
  So any other little problems that I can solve besides the cancer is like just a little win for me.
• 43:15
  Dude, it's very like you telling that account and like the way you responded to quote, all blood in the toilet is such a just, I, if there was like an isolation of like, yeah, this
• 43:28
  man's dealt with some health concerns.
• 43:30
  The way you respond to that is to me the indicator.
• 43:34
  Cause if I went and I stood up, took a peek and I, I saw, honestly, if I saw any amount of red, I'm probably heading straight to the ER.
• 43:45
  Like, and that's just, that's where I'm at.
• 43:47
  Like, I don't think I would handle that well at all.
• 43:49
  And so like, for you to be like, oh, I'm gonna see what, see if it happens again.
• 43:53
  I'm like, good night.
• 43:55
  Yeah, I was like, I'll give it a couple hours.
• 43:57
  If I go to the bathroom again, then yeah, I'll go in or whatever if it like just keeps bleeding.
• 44:02
  um And uh so I gave it a timeframe of an hour.
• 44:09
  And I said, you know, if within the hour I go again or more than once, then I'm gonna go in.
• 44:15
  And I think I used the bathroom like six times within that hour and everything was just blood.
• 44:24
  Man, dude, that is wild.
• 44:27
  They sent me to the ICU because of it.
• 44:29
  So it was...
• 44:31
  I don't even have diarrhea as any frame.
• 44:35
  I have not even had that as a frame of reference for that frequency, let alone the contents.
• 44:40
  That's crazy, dude.
• 44:42
  Yeah, I call it the fightin' chair, because I've done some fighting in there.
• 44:46
  For sure.
• 44:48
  The Fighting Chair, yes.
• 44:50
  Just one more name in my belt of names for where I sit.
• 44:55
  So frequently.
• 44:56
  Yep.
• 44:57
  dude.
• 44:59
  Like for the longest time, people thought like, the whole from a bathroom things are, he just, I am truly on my toilet right now.
• 45:07
  Like, yeah, I, told the kids at the high school I work at, I like, I really like, you guys understand, I sit on the toilet a lot.
• 45:14
  Like, and not necessarily doing activities that are toilet related, but like I am in there a lot.
• 45:19
  You're like, I'm just on the toilet a lot.
• 45:21
  Yeah.
• 45:22
  Yeah, but I'm not like allowed to tell them as much like if they ask I can tell them it's kind of weird it's kind of like you know proselytizing you can't like self promote.
• 45:29
  But it's like yeah you know.
• 45:32
  podcast.
• 45:33
  Yeah, I've got a podcast.
• 45:34
  Why are you in the bathroom?
• 45:35
  It's kind of hard to explain.
• 45:36
  That's kinda what it's about, actually.
• 45:39
  Yeah, dude, it's the joke that never stopped.
• 45:45
  I have a bunch of questions.
• 45:48
  Yeah, I'm gonna fire away.
• 45:50
  And if you've, as we go, you're like, I actually have some stuff I need to say about that.
• 45:53
  Feel free to stop me.
• 45:55
  Yeah.
• 45:55
  And these are like, they're low level.
• 45:59
  First is like, what is y'all's ideal go-to toilet paper there at your house?
• 46:03
  What do you guys prefer?
• 46:05
  So since cancer, it's changed.
• 46:07
  Okay.
• 46:08
  We used to get like the Costco Kirkland brand or like the Sam's, we have Sam's club here, not Costco.
• 46:15
  so it was always the members Mark brand.
• 46:18
  And then when I got diagnosed, we have now gone to Quilter Northern, three ply, ultra soft because of the amount of time that I spend in the bathroom and that and dude wipes.
• 46:31
  Dude.
• 46:34
  Praise be to the dude wipes, I'm telling you.
• 46:36
  I got my pumpkin, I got my Duncan spice.
• 46:39
  dumb fence spice, that's awesome.
• 46:41
  I have the non scented camo ones.
• 46:45
  And then I do the mint chill ones as well.
• 46:48
  Ooh, Mintchill sounds like it would be an adventure.
• 46:50
  It is.
• 46:51
  It's got like a little little tiny bit of menthol so it's like just a little bit of that like
• 46:58
  I bought a 12 pack of the Duncan spice and I'm working through them slowly.
• 47:04
  that might be that, that mint chill.
• 47:06
  That's going to be, I think a future purchase for sure.
• 47:11
  So with the, with the Quilted Northern, do you all fold it over or under?
• 47:14
  Like beard or mullet is really like how people.
• 47:18
  It's definitely a beard.
• 47:21
  Is that one of those where you're like, this is the right way?
• 47:25
  Or is it just like, you know, it's how it happens.
• 47:29
  So the way I was always taught how to replace the toilet paper in a bathroom growing up because when we were getting taught how to do chores, we were told that toilet paper that
• 47:40
  doesn't touch the ground is always better.
• 47:43
  So if you do mullet style, it has more of a chance of slowly over time just falling to the ground and then being dirty and you can get sick from that.
• 47:52
  And so I've always just done it the other way because there's less likelihood of it falling down and over.
• 47:58
  Even if it does fall down, it still has to like keep unrolling itself to do that.
• 48:03
  It's got a lot more to overcome to get to that point.
• 48:06
  Yeah.
• 48:07
  So.
• 48:08
  Yeah.
• 48:09
  Is Jess in agreement on that?
• 48:11
  I know like sometimes couples, they're like, no, this is a point of contention.
• 48:16
  Yeah, no, she, she agrees.
• 48:18
  Uh, she, when we got married, it was kind of like, we did it the same way and it was like, cool.
• 48:22
  That's not a fight.
• 48:23
  Sweet.
• 48:24
  That's not the argument.
• 48:25
  Yeah.
• 48:27
  So that was good from the beginning on that one.
• 48:30
  That was pretty good.
• 48:30
  uh, but, and so it's really funny cause growing up my dad, I like to call him what I call a gravity pooper.
• 48:41
  So he, he doesn't push.
• 48:43
  He just lets gravity do the work for him.
• 48:45
  Okay.
• 48:46
  And so if he has to go to the bathroom, we called it camping.
• 48:50
  Yeah, he's in there for a minute.
• 48:52
  He, like an hour or two sometimes.
• 48:55
  Like he would, he'd be in there looking at a hunting magazine.
• 48:58
  Like that was what he was doing.
• 48:59
  Dad, why you got all this?
• 49:03
  All this literature.
• 49:05
  And then my grandfather got me a joke book that was bathroom jokes that I always had on our toilet in the kids bathroom growing up.
• 49:15
  And so that was, that was fun, but.
• 49:19
  Yeah, my entire family on my dad's side, they always take forever to go to the restroom.
• 49:23
  I don't know what it is.
• 49:25
  I don't know what it is.
• 49:25
  Let gravity do it.
• 49:27
  Yeah.
• 49:28
  Yeah.
• 49:30
  Some people like to like, you know, get on with their lives and some people are psychopaths.
• 49:34
  So, you know, or they just have way too much time on their
• 49:37
  Yeah, it just waited out.
• 49:39
  I don't know.
• 49:40
  I start to get worried about myself and my family if I'm like, I mean, I have been in here for 10, 15 minutes.
• 49:45
  I wonder if they think I'm okay and...
• 49:48
  What do they think is going on in here?
• 49:51
  haven't checked on me at all, like maybe they're not okay.
• 49:54
  Like yeah.
• 49:56
  Okay, dude, gravity, that's...
• 49:58
  Do you prefer bar soap or liquid soap?
• 50:02
  for like hand washing.
• 50:05
  That's I leave that up to or yes.
• 50:08
  Yeah, see I leave that up to the guest for their their response
• 50:12
  So for showers, I use Duke Cannon.
• 50:14
  Let's go.
• 50:16
  for washing my hands, whatever my wife bought at Bath & Body Works.
• 50:21
  Dude, we're like, I think we're strangely synced up on this because like just the dude wipes, the Duke Cannon, like whatever.
• 50:31
  Yeah.
• 50:31
  Summer citrus, whatever's in that.
• 50:35
  Like truly the Costco pumper.
• 50:37
  Okay.
• 50:39
  Have you ever been a liquid soap in the shower guy?
• 50:42
  So I mean for like shampoo and conditioner and stuff like that, but right now I actually use Duke Cannon's shampoo puck that they have that's like a little rub on and then you
• 50:51
  just, but for a while I was just like, yeah, whatever my wife has in the shower, that's what I use.
• 50:57
  So, yeah, that's one of the benefits of being married is you don't really have to worry about buying hair products because they're just around.
• 51:04
  Yeah, and I don't know, like, sometimes they test them, like, I'm not really a fan of this shampoo.
• 51:09
  And I was like, I know who will be, because it's already been paid for.
• 51:12
  Yeah, I'll do it.
• 51:14
  I have 12 in one.
• 51:17
  What's this one?
• 51:18
  It only does one thing?
• 51:20
  It makes your hair smooth?
• 51:21
  Like, my conditioner can cook oil.
• 51:23
  Yeah.
• 51:24
  my gosh, it removes the paint on the edge of the shower.
• 51:26
  No.
• 51:26
  Yeah.
• 51:27
  Yeah, they used it to take shells off of ships back in 1843 and that recipe has just continued on and on.
• 51:35
  Have you ever carved, like Jess or anybody else in your life, a message in the bar soap?
• 51:41
  So I've never actually carved soap.
• 51:43
  That's actually something that's really funny.
• 51:45
  There was a movie, I don't remember what movie it was, but this guy carves like a bird out of soap and then puts it in his pocket and tries to go surprise this lady, but it rains.
• 51:54
  And so he just reaches into his pocket and it's just like soap suds that come out.
• 51:58
  He's like, well it was a bird.
• 52:02
  Yeah, so no, I've never actually carved soap before.
• 52:08
  Me neither.
• 52:08
  just, know, somebody at one point asked me, it's like, Hey, have you ever gotten a message on a bar of soap?
• 52:13
  And I went, what are you talking about?
• 52:15
  He goes, Oh no, I used to carve messages to my brother when we shared our shower when growing up.
• 52:20
  I'm like, that's crazy.
• 52:21
  I got to start asking people.
• 52:23
  Yeah.
• 52:24
  Nobody has except for him.
• 52:26
  So here we are.
• 52:27
  Well, that might be something he should talk to his therapist about.
• 52:31
  Yeah, or maybe his brother.
• 52:34
  Messages, you know, like I asked him, I said, do you know if you ever read them?
• 52:37
  Oh, I have no idea.
• 52:38
  I was like, you did it.
• 52:38
  And you never said, Hey, did you get my message?
• 52:41
  Like you're killing me right now.
• 52:42
  That's the bit you commit to though, because if you admit that it was you, then they know.
• 52:48
  That's right, that's right.
• 52:49
  Keaton, how do you feel about baths?
• 52:51
  Ooh, I love a good bath.
• 52:53
  Yeah, so it's actually really funny.
• 52:55
  My dad's a nurse and baths growing up would fix everything.
• 53:01
  So you had a migraine, go lay in the bath, have a Coke and Tylenol.
• 53:04
  You your stomach's upset, just go lay in the bathtub and turn on hot water and drink some peppermint tea.
• 53:12
  And it was always like the remedy plus a bath growing up.
• 53:16
  Yeah
• 53:17
  Was the approach that we took and then like especially with muscle pain and all that kind of stuff growing pains all that kind of thing.
• 53:23
  Yeah Wow water and all that kind of stuff
• 53:27
  Interesting, yeah.
• 53:31
  I wanna be a bath guy, but I'm not there.
• 53:34
  You're not there.
• 53:35
  Yeah, I get in my own head about it.
• 53:37
  Like, is it human soup?
• 53:39
  And um what am I if it is?
• 53:41
  it almost gets existential to me in a way that is not helpful.
• 53:47
  um But yeah, my wife's big on baths and she's like, just try it, it's nice.
• 53:52
  I'm like, yeah.
• 53:55
  Do you like hot tubs?
• 53:58
  No, I don't.
• 53:59
  It's just like hot bodies of water.
• 54:01
  You just don't like sitting in them.
• 54:03
  I'm even weird about pools.
• 54:06
  Like, give me a lake, give me a stream, even the ocean, like no problem, I'll get up in that.
• 54:12
  It's like something about the fact that like it's nature and it's already gross or it's moving.
• 54:17
  But man, like my kids love the pool.
• 54:19
  So it's like, well, we're going in and I've got to get past this, but it's just weird.
• 54:22
  I'm like, crypto, do you get all sorts of weird bacteria?
• 54:26
  Like nobody ever gets everything fully clean.
• 54:30
  We'll just leave that there.
• 54:31
  Okay.
• 54:32
  Do you have any bathroom pet peeves, like things that either, you know, often it's the spouse, but sometimes, you know, growing up, whether you have siblings or whatever, do you
• 54:41
  have anything that people do that just drives you up a wall in the bathroom?
• 54:45
  have two things.
• 54:46
  Perfect.
• 54:46
  have PTSD from my childhood because I was in charge of cleaning my brother and I's bathroom.
• 54:52
  That was one of my chores.
• 54:53
  And my little brother, I kid you not, would spit loogies into the sink and just leave it there and so it dry at the bottom of the sink.
• 55:01
  Yeah, it was gross.
• 55:02
  And then he would also just let the toothpaste get all over the counter and not clean it up.
• 55:08
  Those are my two main ones.
• 55:10
  And then I guess another mini one would be, there's a toilet brush there for a reason.
• 55:15
  If you leave skid marks, clean that bad boy out.
• 55:18
  Nobody wants to look at that.
• 55:19
  I mean, come on.
• 55:21
  Just be nice.
• 55:23
  Yeah.
• 55:24
  Yeah.
• 55:24
  Sort yourself out.
• 55:25
  Yeah.
• 55:26
  Because nobody will admit it, but like every time you go to the bathroom you look down at the toilet first.
• 55:30
  Like, you just do.
• 55:31
  Yeah, I do.
• 55:32
  mean, I've said so many things about my bathroom situation on this show in the last six years that it's like, people could probably make a graph of my like movements.
• 55:44
  Like, can track your schedule at this point.
• 55:47
  oh
• 55:47
  can track my location because I've got an app where I can like, I log every time I go poo and where I was at to do it.
• 55:54
  And so truly like people know that three, two hours ago, two and a half hours ago, I was at Fred Meyer.
• 55:59
  He's like, what's he doing?
• 56:02
  I see.
• 56:03
  I see now.
• 56:03
  Yeah, Albany Fred Meyers is a good poop spot.
• 56:06
  I will give you that.
• 56:07
  It is when your wife goes, hey, we need limes.
• 56:11
  You think you could stop and get some limes?
• 56:12
  And I'm like, really trying to get home till you get set up, but yeah, I'll get some limes.
• 56:16
  And then I walk through the door and I go, glad this hit for the afternoon.
• 56:22
  I'm not gonna make it home for that.
• 56:24
  uh
• 56:25
  I will see you in three days, honey.
• 56:27
  I'm gonna be in the bathroom.
• 56:28
  Yeah, yeah.
• 56:30
  Do you have a restaurant or an eating establishment that messes you up the worst as far as the bathroom?
• 56:36
  So because of cancer and everything, a lot of foods do mess me up.
• 56:42
  I do actually have a recent story.
• 56:44
  uh So being down here in Mississippi, I have some friends from Louisiana.
• 56:51
  they, down there, them Cajun folks, they eat some different food, that's for sure.
• 57:00
  I don't know if you've ever tried Bhutan.
• 57:02
  Mm-mm.
• 57:04
  It's like a rice sausage with chicken liver and all sorts of different stuff in it.
• 57:08
  It's actually really good.
• 57:10
  Okay, chicken liver's giving me pause.
• 57:12
  But yeah, so it's it's actually really good.
• 57:14
  You can't taste it like it just tastes like a good sausage like that's what it tastes like but it's got a different consistency because it's got rice in it And apparently that Cajun
• 57:26
  delicacy destroys me oh
• 57:32
  a full week of diarrhea from that one.
• 57:34
  And that was even with taking my Creon pills.
• 57:38
  And one of the things, if you go into our bathroom, it's really funny, we have all these bins and they're labeled.
• 57:45
  So one says pain, one says as needed, one says daily, and then there's an entire one up in the corner that just says tummy.
• 57:52
  And it's everything from stool softeners,
• 57:57
  to Lamodal, which is a heavy duty anti-diarrheal.
• 58:01
  And then we've got like Miralex up there.
• 58:05
  We've got the, and like, and it deals with like nausea stuff too, but like it it's more like everything that has to do with your stomach that's in that box.
• 58:15
  And so, you you got your PepDo, you got your, your, all your different things for your, you know, your ailments of the stomach and, and digestive system.
• 58:24
  So.
• 58:25
  We are very well stocked in bathroom support meds.
• 58:30
  That's dude that the tummy bin is that might be the move and The bins is honestly good because like I open ours and it's it's an absolute disaster wasteland to find what's going
• 58:43
  on in there.
• 58:43
  It's like You know, I think we have that let me look and and in your rifling for an hour.
• 58:53
  Yeah Do you have you ever okay so a couple questions related to the shower
• 58:58
  Have you ever taken a dark shower?
• 59:01
  Mm-hmm.
• 59:03
  Like just with no lights?
• 59:06
  Yep.
• 59:07
  Yeah.
• 59:08
  So actually with a lot of the pain that I get from the cancer is in my lower back.
• 59:15
  And so I've actually spent a lot of time in the shower.
• 59:20
  Sometimes in the middle of the night and with sharing a master suite with my wife, I mean...
• 59:25
  I kind of have to just be no lights.
• 59:30
  So yeah, I've done it a few times.
• 59:33
  Yeah.
• 59:34
  Do you like it at all with the lights off?
• 59:38
  I mean, it just, at that point, when I have the lights on and I'm in pain, I just close my eyes and put my head against the wall and let the water hit my back.
• 59:46
  And so, it just kind of feels like I have my eyes closed.
• 59:51
  Yeah, it's interesting because to me, the dark shower is almost a delicacy where it's the sensory deprivation chamber type effect of the thing where it's interesting because yours
• 1:00:04
  and mine started in that like, I don't want to wake Anna up.
• 1:00:08
  But yours is more the, well, I prefer the lights on, but this is out of necessity.
• 1:00:16
  It's fascinating coming at it from a different end there.
• 1:00:18
  Yeah.
• 1:00:19
  Have you ever eaten an orange in the shower as if it was an apple?
• 1:00:24
  So not an orange, but I have eaten apples in the shower.
• 1:00:27
  Back when I used to drink beer, nothing would beat a shower of beer.
• 1:00:30
  I mean, was just, that was a good time.
• 1:00:32
  It always felt extra refreshing in the shower.
• 1:00:34
  So I've done that and I brush my teeth in the shower.
• 1:00:37
  Not a of people brush their teeth in the shower, but that's one thing that I do.
• 1:00:41
  Okay, do you- I mean, and it just spit straight down the-
• 1:00:44
  I just scrub right down the drain and it washes it out.
• 1:00:46
  Do you have like the toothbrush rack in the shower too?
• 1:00:50
  Yeah, so we have one fur that's like magnetic for my wife's razor on one side of the shower And then I've got like the little like holder one fur on the other side.
• 1:00:58
  That's okay
• 1:00:59
  Yeah.
• 1:00:59
  Huh, interesting.
• 1:01:00
  Yeah, I...
• 1:01:02
  Is the toothpaste in the shower?
• 1:01:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:05
  Whoa, okay, that's wild.
• 1:01:07
  Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  That's a new world for me, for sure.
• 1:01:10
  Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  I don't know.
• 1:01:11
  That'd be interesting if I...
• 1:01:12
  I'm trying to think what I would do.
• 1:01:14
  You can try it.
• 1:01:16
  But my toothbrush is like battery, and brrr, you know, and I'm like, am I gonna flood this thing and make it not work?
• 1:01:24
  So I got this one called a quip.
• 1:01:27
  Okay, so that's what I use in the shower.
• 1:01:29
  That's fine.
• 1:01:31
  Well, I might have to give it a shot then because yeah, we've got to like the whole quip hook it up to the phone We did that to track the kids.
• 1:01:38
  It's like, are you?
• 1:01:39
  actually brushing my teeth.
• 1:01:41
  Yeah.
• 1:01:41
  I know I've done the quip one in the shower because it's like a lot of silicone everywhere.
• 1:01:44
  It's not like it's there's not really a lot of electronic parts.
• 1:01:47
  The bottom is where you charge it and so as long as you go to charge it and you just kind of wipe it off beforehand you shouldn't have any issues.
• 1:01:53
  Recharge job.
• 1:01:55
  got it.
• 1:01:55
  need to update my quip is old school Like it's got the triple a battery that they send me in the mail every month.
• 1:02:02
  wow every three months, I guess yeah, Still works though.
• 1:02:06
  Like whatever they've got built into that.
• 1:02:08
  It's it's doing well, huh?
• 1:02:09
  Not a sponsor but like quip.
• 1:02:11
  Hey quit a job And then so and then the question that has kind of become the question that people are like, are you gonna ask them?
• 1:02:22
  is have you, Keaton, have you ever performed a waffle stomp?
• 1:02:26
  don't act- yes yeah mm-hmm mm-hmm yes I have
• 1:02:31
  I was gonna say, I'm happy to explain the waffle stomp.
• 1:02:33
  I do have to explain it probably 75 % of the time.
• 1:02:37
  And we'll explain it.
• 1:02:38
  It took me a second, but I understand what you're saying and yes I have.
• 1:02:43
  Yeah?
• 1:02:44
  Yeah.
• 1:02:44
  How long ago was that waffle style?
• 1:02:49
  Yeah.
• 1:02:50
  Yeah, it was kind of like out of necessity at one point.
• 1:02:54
  It always is.
• 1:02:54
  Except for the one time that I did it out of experimentation.
• 1:02:57
  Just to see it.
• 1:02:58
  Well, I had never done one.
• 1:02:59
  And I was like, well, I gotta do it.
• 1:03:01
  Like, I can't keep asking people if they do it and never have done it.
• 1:03:05
  you did it.
• 1:03:06
  Yeah.
• 1:03:06
  Yeah.
• 1:03:07
  So I full sent it and my wife was a little upset because it was in our apartment.
• 1:03:13
  And I'm like, listen, it's research.
• 1:03:16
  Was she in the shower though too?
• 1:03:17
  Cause I would be-
• 1:03:18
  No, no, was not.
• 1:03:22
  Yeah, yeah, I was solo missioning in on that one.
• 1:03:24
  Okay.
• 1:03:25
  Good, at least you didn't like you'd others.
• 1:03:27
  Dude, I've had, listen, you've been very tame as far as like what people, cause I had a dude, he's like, yeah, I mean, I just like pee on her.
• 1:03:37
  I'm like, stop, just stop.
• 1:03:41
  It's like we're married and it's still weird to me.
• 1:03:45
  is, yeah.
• 1:03:45
  You're like, did she get stung by a jellyfish?
• 1:03:48
  No, why do you need to pee on her?
• 1:03:50
  They're practicing for it.
• 1:03:51
  No.
• 1:03:52
  Yeah.
• 1:03:52
  eh
• 1:03:53
  Get my accuracy down.
• 1:03:55
  Yeah, so you have done the stomp.
• 1:03:58
  I'm glad that, you know, I don't get many.
• 1:04:00
  Most people, I'm probably saying like probably 10 % of folks that have been on this show have been like, yeah, oh yeah.
• 1:04:06
  So that's cool, know, boosting those stats.
• 1:04:09
  Yeah, so I have a question for you then.
• 1:04:12
  Have you ever had to find an emergency pair of pants like in a store?
• 1:04:18
  uh Like if you were sick or you had like a bad stomach issue?
• 1:04:24
  The closest I've ever got, and it wasn't necessarily pants, I did a risky fart when I was probably, I was in college and I was mentoring and I was on my way home and coming down, I
• 1:04:39
  don't know if you know Salem, but Lancaster's a big main road down Salem.
• 1:04:44
  And I pretty much had to go from one end of that to the other and I'm like, hitting every light, hitting every light.
• 1:04:49
  And my tummy's kind of got, I got the bubble guts going.
• 1:04:52
  kind of tried to sneak and I should not have because I did poo a little bit.
• 1:04:56
  And it was one of those where it's like, I'm definitely going to make it home, but I'm just uncomfortable in my car now.
• 1:05:02
  And I'm already, I'm already late for dinner.
• 1:05:05
  So I like pulled into a Walmart and like grabbed a three pack of Hanes and then ran in the bathroom, swapped them.
• 1:05:11
  And, but I didn't go through onto the pants.
• 1:05:13
  That was my big worry was like, gosh.
• 1:05:16
  it's gonna seep through and get onto the pants and then I'm gonna have to walk through the apartment complex and whatever and I'm like, no, no, no, I'm just gonna run in and change.
• 1:05:25
  So I've had to do that, but never like never a full pair of pants.
• 1:05:29
  Yeah, so I had to buy a pair of pants at TJ Maxx one.
• 1:05:32
  Wait, wait, so again, was this post like cancer and treatment?
• 1:05:38
  okay.
• 1:05:39
  Well, you get a lot of grace and understanding, I think, based on the stories that have been told thus far.
• 1:05:46
  No one, I don't think is going to knock you on it, but like, what an absolute jam of an expenditure to explain to your wife though, I bet, huh?
• 1:05:54
  yeah, and then I have this card that I keep in my wallet.
• 1:05:58
  It says, the cancer card.
• 1:06:00
  This card entitles the holder to get out of anything because they have cancer and that's enough to deal with.
• 1:06:06
  And so if anybody ever gave me crap for like pooping my pants in TJ Maxx, I'd have been like, there you go.
• 1:06:12
  Here's my card.
• 1:06:14
  Dude, man and TJ Maxx, what a, what a pull.
• 1:06:19
  There's not a bad bathroom for it though.
• 1:06:21
  They're pretty clean.
• 1:06:22
  Yeah.
• 1:06:22
  Really?
• 1:06:23
  Okay.
• 1:06:23
  Yeah.
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  Dude, I will tell you this, the Walmart bathroom is not.
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  Yeah.
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  It is not known for being much other than dirty and loud as people are screaming to get things out and listen to TikTok on their phone while they like.
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  Like blast, full blast.
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  I'm like, even if you go into pee, there's always somebody in there on their phone.
• 1:06:43
  It's like, dude, put your AirPod in or like just wait till you're done.
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  I don't know.
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  That's probably one of my pet peeves.
• 1:06:50
  You mentioned some shower drank.
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  Do you do any other bathroom snack?
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  Like you ever have like a toilet snack or anything?
• 1:06:56
  So yeah, I don't know how comfortable you guys are with this, but I've worked myself off of painkillers as far as my pain, and so I THC for pain management.
• 1:07:09
  sometimes I'll take a shower and I'll have a seltzer.
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  And that gets me, you know, hungry.
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  And I've eaten a full bowl of cereal on the toilet before.
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  Oh, what flavor, what flavor?
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  Let's go!
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  man, so some flavors of Cat McCrunch will make you poop green.
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  Yeah, okay.
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  Was that a follow-up?
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  There's actually a Halloween Captain Crunch that the milk turns green?
• 1:07:37
  Yes.
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  That's always been the worst for me.
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  dude, I think you are the first.
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  It's like, yeah, bowl of cereal on the toilet.
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  And I will be trying it.
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  So I do endeavor to attempt people's snack.
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  And it's also not the wildest.
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  I've had some wild ones, steak.
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  Like steak in the shower was the specific statement.
• 1:08:01
  I'm like, under what circumstance does that need to be a thing?
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  And I also had a guy, he's like, yeah, love you.
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  Like ribs, if I can get like a couple ribs while I'm on the toilet.
• 1:08:11
  I'm like, dude, it's like the last place I want that much barbecue sauce.
• 1:08:16
  you know, but dude, bowl of cereal is a good pull.
• 1:08:19
  Yeah, it was a good decision.
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  The only thing is, it's a weird feeling to be filling up and emptying at the same time.
• 1:08:29
  And basically what I kind of equate it to is I imagine that's how an airplane that is getting refueled midair feels like.
• 1:08:37
  It's like eating a bowl of cereal on the toilet while you're pooping.
• 1:08:40
  Yeah.
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  Yeah, that's my analogy for the day.
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  That's perfect.
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  That's awesome.
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  And then, so to kind of bring all of these like ridiculous questioning and move towards a close here.
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  I always ask people to share bathroom wisdom with folks as an end, but I'm not gonna have that be the end, but do you have any bathroom wisdom to share with people?
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  I would probably have to go with.
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  If you have to flush it twice, it was too much toilet paper.
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  uh
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  Yeah, that's wise.
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  How many sheets do you roll with like for each wipe?
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  two, three squares.
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  two, three squares, and that quilted Northern's thick.
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  Yeah, that's good stuff.
• 1:09:34
  uh I will admit, so I recently did like witch toilet paper, and quilted Northern was strong competitor.
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  It was very thick.
• 1:09:42
  The Charmin blue bag Charmin did beat it out only because the quilted Northern roll didn't fit on my roller.
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  It's so big.
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  had to look it up.
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  They sell an extension for the roll for it.
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  And I was like,
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  This is crazy.
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  But it was like definitely a second for me.
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  There's just something about those bears.
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  They have my heart and my bottom.
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  your heart and your butt.
• 1:10:08
  Yes.
• 1:10:10
  But Keaton, do want before I say bye, I do want you, so with doing all this stuff with Legacy Dad and, you know, get lighthearted with the bathroom talk, but I do want you to
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  kind of, you know.
• 1:10:26
  The legacy dad, having a kid and having the diagnosis that you have, I can't imagine that that's anywhere near easy.
• 1:10:34
  Yeah.
• 1:10:37
  What would you say to parents, folks who have, not similar, because like you said, you are currently a one of one.
• 1:10:45
  Yeah.
• 1:10:45
  But what would you say to folks who, as they look at their lives, you probably have had to grapple with things that no person ever will?
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  nobody probably, I'll be honest, should have to.
• 1:10:57
  What would you say to parents, just folks struggling with those type things?
• 1:11:03
  So I will probably the first thing that I would say and it kind of comes out of a story.
• 1:11:10
  So when I got my terminal diagnosis, we decided as a family, we were going to go on a trip together just because life's too short to not do those things, especially when you know
• 1:11:20
  the numbers.
• 1:11:21
  mean, everybody should live that way, but we were at this resort.
• 1:11:25
  It was like a water park place.
• 1:11:27
  And I went to go get drinks for Jess and her mom and dad came with us and it was a fun trip.
• 1:11:33
  But I was walking through the pool area and it was quarter mile from where the whatever was to the doors to go outside of the outside pool where they were at.
• 1:11:43
  And I counted like some 35 dads.
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  growing.
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  scrolling while their wife was in the pool playing with their kids.
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  And they were just sitting in a chair by themselves.
• 1:11:57
  So number one, put your phone down.
• 1:12:01
  At least once a day, put your phone down and just engage with your kids.
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  Ask them meaningful questions.
• 1:12:08
  Even if you don't think that they're going to be able to grasp it or understand it, our kids absorb so much more than we realize.
• 1:12:17
  yeah.
• 1:12:19
  I've been making it a point to tell my son every day that I'm proud of him.
• 1:12:22
  And the other night I was snuggling with him in bed and he throws his arms around me and he gives me a hug and he goes, I'm proud of you, daddy.
• 1:12:30
  You're strong.
• 1:12:31
  And I was like, that's what I, that's what I tell you buddy.
• 1:12:34
  Like, I'm glad that you hear it, you know?
• 1:12:37
  And then the second one is kind of just a, like a statement that I've kind of
• 1:12:46
  recognized throughout this whole experience.
• 1:12:48
  I've heard a lot of people say that they would die for their family.
• 1:12:54
  But when dying is the only option you have, can you live for your family?
• 1:12:59
  Yeah.
• 1:13:00
  So I find that people have a more difficult time living for their family than they do sacrificing their life in that sense.
• 1:13:09
  And what I mean by that is like, you know, if you like to golf, that's great.
• 1:13:15
  Have a hobby.
• 1:13:16
  but don't let it get in the way of intentional time and things like that.
• 1:13:22
  Because there are people out there who are not willing to change their routine to be around their families more.
• 1:13:28
  Right.
• 1:13:29
  But yet they turn around and they'll say, well, you know, if somebody attacked us, I would give my life to save my family.
• 1:13:34
  And I'm like, OK.
• 1:13:37
  Yeah, you give your life, but not your weekend.
• 1:13:39
  Yeah.
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  you'd give your life, but you're not willing to change your life for them.
• 1:13:43
  And a big part of that is my faith.
• 1:13:45
  I mean, I think that, you know, we can always be better.
• 1:13:48
  We can always be changing.
• 1:13:49
  We can always be doing something different.
• 1:13:52
  And one thing that this whole experience has taught me is what love really means.
• 1:13:58
  Hmm.
• 1:13:58
  Yeah.
• 1:14:01
  I've been, I got a lot closer with my relationship with the Lord since I've had cancer.
• 1:14:06
  Him and I are pretty tight now.
• 1:14:08
  We talk pretty regularly and I was, I was doing this Bible study and I ran into this guy talking about how Paul got up to heaven and looked at people in the eye that he murdered
• 1:14:24
  for their beliefs.
• 1:14:26
  And they said, man, we love you.
• 1:14:28
  We are so glad you're here.
• 1:14:29
  We prayed for you.
• 1:14:31
  to be here.
• 1:14:33
  And when I first heard that the first time, it broke me because I was like, that's the love he's talking about and we can't even comprehend that.
• 1:14:42
  Right, right.
• 1:14:43
  So I've asked this year specifically that the Lord give me the ability to see people the way he sees them.
• 1:14:55
  And it means, you know, my time's not more valuable than yours.
• 1:14:59
  Yours is just as valuable as mine.
• 1:15:03
  And, you know, if somebody cuts me off in traffic, maybe they were in a hurry.
• 1:15:08
  They're not out to get me.
• 1:15:10
  Like I said earlier, know, nobody wakes up in the morning and goes, I'm going to ruin Hunter's day.
• 1:15:14
  Like, I'm just going to be a jerk to that guy.
• 1:15:17
  And if somebody is doing that, you might have a problem.
• 1:15:21
  But...
• 1:15:22
  That's how we get serial killers and stalkers.
• 1:15:24
  um But he's so, but yeah, mainly the, mainly the advice that I have is just, know, like you, like you said in the beginning, you know, make every moment count and don't, don't be
• 1:15:38
  afraid to step out of your comfort zone and change your routines because it can actually make your life a lot more fun.
• 1:15:45
  Yeah.
• 1:15:46
  So yeah.
• 1:15:47
  Well, Keaton, I appreciate you hopping on this and sharing.
• 1:15:51
  am going to be including links to Legacy Dad and the stuff that you got going on on social media.
• 1:15:59
  And I might even, I know that there was like an Amazon kind of support almost type registry.
• 1:16:06
  registry is not the correct word, but.
• 1:16:08
  Well, it is set up as a registry just so that there's like a shipping address and stuff.
• 1:16:13
  Right, right.
• 1:16:14
  I'll make sure to, you know, I'll find that cause I know it's out there and I'll make sure to include that.
• 1:16:19
  And normally, I will say normally when I end the show, I flush the toilet and I will flush the toilet, but I'm not gonna do all of my normal privy spiel.
• 1:16:28
  Brother, can I pray for you before I flush this toilet and say goodbye?
• 1:16:34
  Yeah, let's pray.
• 1:16:36
  Dear God, I just thank you for Keaton.
• 1:16:39
  God, I thank you for this time that we've had this last hour and a half or so here.
• 1:16:47
  Lord, I pray that He's facing a lot.
• 1:16:52
  His family is facing a lot with Him.
• 1:16:54
  And God, I just pray that you would continue to strengthen Him and His faith.
• 1:16:59
  Like He said at the beginning, we're praying for a miracle and planning for the things that happen.
• 1:17:04
  And God, we know that you're a God of miracles.
• 1:17:07
  And God, I pray that
• 1:17:09
  Yeah, that if that be your will, that we would see that and bear witness to your goodness.
• 1:17:14
  And if it not be your will, God, that we would recognize the love that you have for Keaton and for his family and for all those who've already been impacted and touched by his
• 1:17:24
  legacy in this life.
• 1:17:28
  And that we'd recognize your goodness in that.
• 1:17:30
  I thank you again for Keaton and his time.
• 1:17:32
  thank you for Jess and their son and the time that they have allowed for this show to kind of step in for a bit.
• 1:17:39
  We ask these things in your son's name.
• 1:17:41
  Amen.
• 1:17:42
  Amen.
• 1:17:43
  Amen.
• 1:17:44
  Thank you.
• 1:17:44
  Well dude, thank you.
• 1:17:45
  I'm gonna flush this toilet.
• 1:17:47
  uh And yeah, I'll end the recording and then I have a question.
• 1:17:53
  yeah.
• 1:17:54
  Listeners, thank you for being here.
• 1:17:56
  Keep pooping the free world, own your stank.
• 1:17:57
  And as always, don't forget to flush.
• 1:18:00
  Yeah
• 1:18:07
  good sound quality.