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Great Reset or Great Reject? Where Are We Headed in 2023? — Aaron Brickman Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hulghouse. So today, I'll be speaking with someone that a lot of you have been requesting to come back on and that's Aaron Brickman. You probably saw the initial interviews I did with him, and those were more little bit more focused on the bigger picture cycles and the financial cycles and how what he was seeing is that the market was heading towards a crash towards the end of last year. And so we're gonna be talking about that and where things are at, what he sees for 2023.
• 0:33
  But also, we're gonna be getting into a lot of the bigger picture discussions. And this is even though my first initial contact was with Aaron was about the stock market stuff, we developed a friendship and we, you know, it's pretty consistently that we're talking for a couple hours on these long phone calls and just getting into this really is big picture question of, you know, where are we at? Where are we going? How do we fix this? And so I think you're really gonna enjoy our discussion because we're gonna be talking about the markets, which is important, but also just how to get out of where we are right now and what the future is for humanity.
• 1:08
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• 1:33
  Alright, folks, let's go ahead and jump right into the interview. So, Aaron, thank you for joining us today. It's it's great to have you back on again.
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: Well, you, Seth. Thank you for having me. And this is always a pleasure. I've this is great.
• 1:47
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Well, it's interesting because, you know, I had first heard you on Doug Hagman's and and then I think it was also Mike Adams had you on around that time and this was back when we were talking about the the cycles and the stock market and what was kind of playing out for q four twenty twenty two. And so that was the initial conversation we had. But we actually, I think, I would say we became good friends. And now a lot of times, you know, we'll we'll chat here and there.
• 2:12
  And it's hard to have a talk with you that's less than, like, ten minutes or even an hour. It seems like we go we go straight into like the bigger picture of history and where mankind is at. The cycles of civilization and so I'm looking forward to getting into some of that. But how about before we jump into those kinds of discussions, do you want us to just give us a decent update on the the stock market? Because, you know, you know, we were some of the last discussions we had, it was looking like a lot of the indicators and signs were in place for us to have a crash in towards the end of last year, right, October, November, December of last year.
• 2:51
  Obviously, that hasn't happened, but you also said in that said you said, look, nothing is exact and they have the ability to stretch things out much further and you're consistently surprised how they are able to control things in a way that, kind of go against what, you know, would be predicted. So what do you think kind of, I guess, how do you think things ended up last year? How do you think that they avoided that crash? And and also, what do you see coming for 2023?
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: Alright. Well, we'll try and make this brief and I get too lost in the in the forest. But, yeah. So let me just start off by saying that nothing has changed economically. So let's, know, I try and remind people that Wall Street and Main Street are two different streets.
• 3:45
  Okay. And most people treat them as one in the same and they're not. Okay. And so let's talk about what's taking place on Main Street and kind of the backdrop of what's going on Wall Street to give context because so so basically, we've over the last 2022, the Fed is not deviating. They're not pivoting regardless of all the hopes and dreams and everything you hear and read about in the news.
• 4:15
  The Fed has been the Fed is not even being ambiguous. I mean, they're being very clear in their statements. You listen to Powell and his comments at these, FOMC meetings. He's telling you they're going to continue to raise rates. He is acting, and he understands his place in history.
• 4:33
  We won't get into Volker today, but he is not gonna repeat the mistake that Volker made. Okay? Most people are not aware that there was a major mistake Volker made where they raised rates, then they cut them, and then they and and inflation took off again in, 7980, and then Volker really had to go aggressive in hiking rates. So doesn't wanna do that. So Powell has been very clear about the the rate, hikes that are ongoing.
• 5:04
  In addition, the tech companies I mean, the layoffs are accelerating. They're not diminishing, they're accelerating, especially over the last thirty, sixty days. Okay. So and tech is leading the way. Tech has led the way just like tech in the February to 02/2003 bear market led the way, okay, downward.
• 5:27
  So tech is leading the way downward. That's why it's lost the greatest percentage. It's actually barely rallied off its 2022 lows, whereas the Dow has had a much stronger rally. The Nasdaq has barely moved off its lows. So the carnage on on Main Street is continuing.
• 5:47
  Housing prices I mean, you you start I'm sure you've covered this. You started going through all the metrics. They're not getting better. Okay? In fact, they're accelerating the downside.
• 5:56
  Now, we'll we'll turn our attention to Wall Street real quick. Because Wall Street, when you get into trading, you're getting into cycles. And and I would and without going into cycles today, let me just say that there are cycles in your life, there are cycles in history, are like there are war cycles, there are earthquake cycles, there are cycles and everything. And so my approach, both through my personal life as well as business, as a businessman or especially in studying the markets is it's all about windows and time. And there are literally key windows and when those windows open up, you're in at least in regards to a bear market, you're in danger of losing support.
• 6:37
  And there's times when those when those, cycles close. And that's why you haven't heard me talk about it since October. The window closed in October, they bounced, and we've been bouncing ever since. That window, it could be argued without getting into technicals today, which we won't do. It could be argued that the window is about to open up in February, but but it really should be opening up later in spring.
• 7:07
  So as we go deeper into the year, especially towards the April time frame, the April to June and even getting even into the fall is going to be where the market is going to be at its most vulnerable. Okay. And I just want to remind people that because everybody seems, especially in The United States now has about a five minute memory, which so it's really horrible to have conversations with the average person. But, you know, twenty nine to thirty two, that that was a three year bear market. You you then get into the sixties and seventies.
• 7:44
  I mean, that's an entire lost decade. Even even the February to 02/2003, that's another three year bear market. The shortest one was 02/2007 to 02/2009. That was only eighteen months. So we're just now thirteen months into this bear market.
• 8:04
  This is this is where, you know, if I had to guess, I'd say we're like in the fourth inning. Fourth, mean, this thing is not going to so I think that everybody, whether it's the war in Ukraine, and everybody thinks it has to go nuclear tomorrow morning, and and here we are almost a year to the anniversary. And we're just slowly creeping in to to the abyss, right? We don't have to discuss today, but every every month there's a there's a creep into into that. And, so that's where the markets are.
• 8:37
  I'll have a lot more to say about the markets, you know, as we get closer to those windows. And it's because there's astrological stuff, there's all kinds of stuff that are in the future we don't have to do, we don't have to concern ourselves with. Now, I will say this that regardless of what bear market you look at, typically, like 1929 is the anomaly, which is where you start, You literally are at an all time high and forty days later, you're at a crash. Most bear markets just gently slowly roll over and you just kind of it's kind of like losing your footing on the side of a hill and you just kind of keep sliding and sliding and sliding. And and there comes a moment that if you continue to slide, you're gonna start tumbling.
• 9:28
  Okay. You're gonna lose your balance and then really start hurting yourself. But you typically don't just fall off the side of a cliff. You typically start losing your footing. Okay?
• 9:40
  And that's typically how bear markets work is there there's a time period, usually at least twelve months, where you're losing your footing and and it finally gets to a point. So you basically imagine having a series of lows. So each low is lower than the prior low. Each high is lower than the last high. There's this momentum.
• 9:59
  And finally, you reach a point at which, you know, you you step off the cliff. That is something that that I I'm looking for. And I would say that the cliff is, like the the 28,000 level on the Dow. Like you don't as long you know, we're up at, 33, 30 4 right now. So, you know, could we go into another three month trading range?
• 10:23
  Sure. And that's where where the and what that does is it I won't go into what that does, but basically I would be concerned if I was bullish the market. I would be concerned if those lows are taken out because then I think the bear because of timing and some other factors, the bear will be growling much much more than it did last year. Last year was the prelude. Last year was like, you know, last year in a lot of ways is the prelude to some future events.
• 10:51
  And just because but everybody has this, like, movie mentality, like, you gotta go from blue skies to apocalyptic scenarios in ninety minutes. And that's not the way life I I I try and remind people that meeting your spouse or having children or getting that major promotion at work has has taken longer than you thought. How much more these geopolitical historical events? And we really need to, step back and stop looking at a stopwatch when we're talking about these. This is gonna be a major economic event, and there's political ramifications that are gonna result from it.
• 11:33
  So we so, so it's it's still out there. We'll talk about it later this year as it it's not gonna catch people by surprise. Well, let me rephrase that. It won't catch the traders by surprise. It'll probably catch the average person by surprise, but there will be there will be warning before it happens.
• 11:52
  Seth Holehouse: I see. So basically, it's it's not like, well that window closed and you know the market is going to keep going and you know it's back to normal it's more like there's a can that's being kicked down the road maybe for you know for you know a little bit but there's going to get a point, there's a point where it's like everything is adding up to, you know, a big kind of reset with the financial system, like something significant, right? And that's, I mean, that's my kind of assessment, that's also my piecing together, you know, talking to, you know, Martin Armstrong or watching, you know, folks in kind of piecing together what happens a lot of people are saying that, you know, 2023 is going to be a year where some pretty significant things happen, financially. And that's not even getting into, you know, stuff like the petrodollar and what's happening with Saudi Arabia and, you know, the BRICS nations, that's a whole other different thing. But, so, yes, it's interesting to hear that perspective from you.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're just they're they're these are all there are times and seasons. And, you know, as believers, we understand about times and seasons. And and and I think a lot of times in my own personal life as well as in historical events, we try and we try and press past these opportunities, past these windows in time. We try and cram too much activity.
• 13:17
  In life is life is a process. There is a there's a digestive period in all things. So it's kinda like two steps forward, one step back. I mean, there's this consolidation, and that's what happens in the markets. There's a consolidation period of prices.
• 13:33
  You'll notice that with gas prices, Like, they'll incrementally move the gas price up. They'll it'll settle there, get everybody used to that price, and then it'll advance to a higher price. Okay? And and it and it's that's how they that's how you wake up one day and it's at $5 a gallon. Like, it it doesn't go to from a dollar to 5 overnight.
• 13:54
  There there's this this incremental digestive period that takes place. And I and I and I and it's the same way in in bear markets. Now bull markets are different because bull markets, when they get running, mean, they're running. But bear markets are completely different. We will not don't have to discuss what those differences are, but they have a different they just have a different flavor to them.
• 14:17
  They have a they have a different they just function differently. And so because of that, because you're fighting the tendency. See, what bear markets are doing is they're fighting your natural tendency towards greed. Okay? Like like fear.
• 14:39
  Fear can be infectious, but but and fear is part of this bear market. Okay? So fear of losing what you've already gained, fear of of losing your job, all this fear. But people don't get tired of being greedy. Okay?
• 14:56
  People get tired of being afraid. And you have to understand and and what what do I mean by that? There will be periods in history and periods on the chart where people are exhausted of being afraid, and they just spring into hopium. They just all of a sudden, hope springs eternal. Right?
• 15:13
  And there's no even reason for the hope. It maybe it's just a rumor or an article that was written, and all of a sudden, the markets are rallying based upon the Fed didn't say anything. Like, nothing has changed, but but people's they can only maintain a fearful stance for so long. Greed, you can maintain a greed stance for way longer than you can maintain a fearful stance. And so that's some of the of the things that are going on the difference between bull and bear markets and why the why in bear markets at least half the time in a bear market is not spent going down.
• 15:54
  It's actually very it's it's if there's a counter trade against it because because it's going against your your your your fundamental nature, which is to be hopeful, to build things, to be greedy. I mean, there's all these this aspect, emotional aspect that's going on that's contrary to your raw to your natural state. So bear markets yeah. It'll I mean, I am of the agreement we're gonna continue the bear market and in spite of rallies by the way, I mean, we've had some fantastic rallies in the good grief of the seventies. Bear market had some insane rallies.
• 16:33
  February, '2 thousand '3 had some insane rallies. 07/2009 had some monster rallies where and I remember because I was trading them and everybody thought it's over, And it was just warming up. And that's kind of the way I look at this right now is it doesn't have to. I mean, we could they could turn this thing around, but I'm I'm not planning on that. But if that happened, you know, there will be some signals that would fire off to let you know.
• 17:00
  But right now, I don't see that. What I see is it's just this is we really have gone nowhere actually since December. There's like two months where we we rallied from October into December, and then we've just basically gone sideways. And it's digesting its gains deciding, are we going higher? Or is this all she wrote and we're
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: going start to roll over?
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: But I think a lot of what the market is going to get into is going to bring probably if I had to guess because of what Martin Armstrong is saying. I think there's some I think it's gonna I think some geopolitical events are going to have a negative impact on the markets. Yeah. Yeah. And that might be what it's waiting for.
• 17:42
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, I agree with that. So, you know, one thing I always enjoy when talking about you is talking with you is that we always kind of dive into this just this bigger picture of where things are at the battle of good and evil, know, the just kind of these cycles of history and where we're at. And so kind of shifting a little more into that. I mean, right now, I mean, it's it's 2020 was a really or sorry, 2022 is really strange year. I think 2022 at least for us was this the year of really kind of wrapping our heads around, the changes happening in the world like the the Ukraine war how that affected the the gas and fertilizer and the food and food shortages.
• 18:28
  And so it seemed like there's all these different things happening. They're moving the world towards something that we were very busy preparing to. And now here we are in 2023, and it's almost like I feel like there's this sense of, there's like time to breathe out a little bit and kind of look at what's going on around and it's almost as if things have stood still temporarily, but it doesn't feel like it's here for long, this this kind of pause before the next thing rolls out. And so, you know, what and this is a kind of more of a broad question, but like where kind of where do you see us at in history as you're watching what's happening around here? And I think that, you know, now they're talking about how Mike Pence has, you know, you know, classified documents and looks like they're getting ready to take Joe Biden out and put somebody else in front of him.
• 19:19
  And, you know, there's there's all these things that are happening, people fighting. But when you take a step back and you look at the hundred thousand or the million foot view, there's a different picture. And so you kind of, I guess, you know, where's your where's your head at right now in terms of making sense of what's happening in the world?
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm a big picture guy, as you know. I think that I think that that's the only thing that Matt I was on Doug Hagman last week, and I did say that, look,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: the devil God is in the details. So I don't want people to go, oh, you just gotta, you don't need to go down to the assembly line and actually check the manufacturing, you know, make sure that it's actually being done correctly. No. I mean, it's in the details,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: but you can really be lost among the details. And so good CEOs, good leaders are constantly trying to maintain perspective in zoom out because the tendency of life is to suck you into the details. So you don't have to go trying to be myopic. That's kind of the natural tendency. What what I find the average person is having to desperately fight is to maintain perspective.
• 20:36
  Okay? Because nobody I mean, I won't say I won't speak in absolutes, but very few people are are actually giving you perspective. What they're giving you is information. You don't know the contact first of all, nowadays, you don't even know if it's truthful. Don't know if it's accurate.
• 20:54
  You certainly it's not usually presented with any type of context. And I mean context for the next six months, not much less historical context. So, there's no meaning attached to it. And then you're supposed to figure it out. Supposed to draw whatever And
• 21:11
  Seth Holehouse: real quick, because it's such such a good point, because I feel like it's almost like, you know, we spent, you know, for me, for instance, the past say, well, I guess, you know, my work in the media with exposing communism since 02/2008, but, you know, a lot of people that we spent some time really trying to get the truth out there, right. Like they even refer to people that might have a show like me as like this as the truth movement, right. As people are getting the truth. But if you look around now, you have, you know, died suddenly, it is kind of trending on Twitter. You've got like the truth, it's almost like the truth is out there and like people that can see the truth see it and those that can't see it, they can't.
• 21:58
  And it's hard to make them at this point, you know. So I feel like that it's almost like all the truth is there, but then where's the perspective? Right? And we say perspective, like I also think of the word wisdom. It's kind of like we've got a lot of truth now, but what do we do with it?
• 22:16
  Right? And that's where that's where my mind goes. It's like, okay, yeah, we know that there's a globalist, they have this agenda, there's 2,030, there's a communist, and, you know, it's like everything Alex Jones has been screaming about for twenty years has come to pass. And here we are, yet where's the like, I can't agree with you more that a lot of people are talking about the truth, you know, and there's also a lot of lies and falsehoods, but there's a lot of people that are putting the truth out there. But where's the perspective?
• 22:42
  Where's the wisdom? Where's the, like, what do we do with this truth? Like, what's next? Alright, folks, I got a quick message for you. So, you know that I talk a lot about gold and silver and why is that?
• 22:56
  Well, if you look at what's coming on the pipeline, especially as it relates to the transhumanist fourth industrial revolution agenda, it's all based upon central bank digital currency. And this is no longer some conspiracy. The banks are actively rolling this out. They're in the beginning stages. We've got a lot of banks that are now putting out their own digital wallets.
• 23:17
  So folks, this is coming. And the central bank digital currency is the greatest threat to our freedom that we've ever experienced here in America. It is literally the foundation of there's Chinese communist style social credit system. And what can happen is that you could just wake up one day and get a notification that says look your funds in your bank account or in your IRA or whatever, they've been converted because we've lost faith in the dollar and we're going to save you from the collapse of the dollar that we ruined by overprinting and taking off the gold standard. They're going to say that we're going to now allow you to, you'll be forced to convert your money into their digital currency tokens or whatever form it takes.
• 24:01
  And the thing is, is that once they do that, which they're doing this folks, they are in the process of rolling this out. I'm not joking, you can wake up one day and everything could change. But once they do that, they're gonna say, okay, well, now for you to access this money, you have to play by our rules, whether it's make sure you have your booster or make sure you're, you know, keeping up to the political proper standards in your social media and look at what's happening in China with the social credit score, it's precisely this. And this is what the central bank current digital currency allows them to do. And so this is why for me, look, it's not just silver and gold, I'm trying to do everything possible to get out of the systems they're trying to control.
• 24:43
  I'm learning how to grow my own food, raising chickens, just, you know, trying to find different ways of getting energy that's not required, you know, off of their grid. And so silver, especially because silver right now I think is a much better opportunity than gold because for a few different reasons, but silver is the item. It's the way that you can pull your money out of the system that they're controlling. And a lot of people might have your money sitting in a in a stock account, you know, in the stock market, even that's a manipulated thing. And when when they're no longer at the stage where they need it, they'll just let that all fall down too because they want all these systems to collapse.
• 25:20
  They want the dollar to collapse, they want the markets to collapse because they know that it's going to force people into this system. And so this is why I'm so proactive with talking about gold and silver is because it's not about to say, hey buy something. It's actually about, look, I want you to be the people. I want you to be the folks that when this change happens that you've already taken the preparation, taken the time to make sure you're not going to be stuck in that system. Because the beautiful thing with this is while that yes, they're going to be rolling this out, you're going to have an entire new parallel economy also emerging, right?
• 25:56
  And this is what's key. So it's gonna be a barter economy where you can trade rice for food or you can trade something else. Or I have I really believe that precious metals are going to play a significant role in the development of these parallel economies where you can now go to your local farmer and trade him an ounce of silver for your beef or for your chicken eggs or whatever it is. So anyway, folks, this is the way that I really do recommend. And if you if you want to get gold or silver, I couldn't recommend Doctor.
• 26:25
  Kirk Elliott anymore. Look, he's a good friend of mine. He's a Christian. He's an American patriot. He understands the system and he is fair with his pricing.
• 26:35
  He's honest. He has a great team. So please folks take action, even if it's a little bit, even if you take a small portion of your money out of your account or your IRA or whatever it is, and move it into precious metals, it could make a significant difference in the future. And that's not even getting into the overall discussion of what's going to happen to the silver prices once this change happens. Because you better believe a lot of people are flocking to precious metals and their prices are going to skyrocket, which is also why we've already seen silver, I think in the past six or seven weeks or so, it's up significantly and we're seeing continual rise in this.
• 27:08
  So again, check out Doctor. Kirk Elliott, the website you go to is www.goldwithseth.com. So again, you
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: go to
• 27:15
  Seth Holehouse: goldwithseth.com or you can call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's (720) 605-3900 to speak to somebody right now. Alright, folks. Let's get back to the interview with Aaron Brickman.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I totally agree with you. I think and and you you echoed by sentiments that I spoke about last week, which was there's a difference between information, knowledge, and wisdom. I mean, in in most of the fighting right now is over the veracity of the information. Like, we haven't even really had conversations about knowledge, much less wisdom.
• 27:58
  And I'm talking about among the conservative, right? Okay. We're just trying to fight over the veracity of the information being discussed. I mean, it's so basic, like where the the fight is. And I think a lot of it, where I think the conversation is going to have to quickly move to is, is to knowledge and wisdom.
• 28:26
  Like, don't think I think if conservative right continues to argue over facts with the left or with I didn't want to get into the right left paradigm because again, it's just a deception at a whole nother level. Right? I mean, there's those that are seeking wisdom and there's those that aren't that are fools. Okay. And they can be Republican or Democrat independent.
• 28:48
  I don't really care about the labels. But I think where the conversation is going, if, if there's any hope for the survival of man, And I think that that's what you, you know, to going back to your original question, we are we are literally talking over the next ten, twenty years about humanity. What direction does humanity go in? Okay. This isn't just about economics or military might or the projection of US power.
• 29:21
  At this stage, humanity is is on the chopping block in so many ways that you've begun to cover, but nobody has other than Alex Jones, because he's been doing it for twenty years, it it would take I mean, you could spend months talking about the destruction of humanity, what's really going on, and even big picture levels. K? Macro levels. What are the major themes? What are the major, you know, areas that are being assaulted to transform humanity?
• 29:49
  That's where wisdom that's where I want to see the conversation go, because there can be more agreement about the role of humanity and the future of humanity among people that might have different political views. Okay. And they've got us fighting, you know, this whole thing about Pence and Biden. The way I look at that is that's like, that's like the side, that's the sideshow fist fight in one
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: of the bar rooms on the Titanic. Like if you're stopping to start paying attention to that, you really don't understand what time it is. Like,
• 30:34
  Seth Holehouse: we're looking at it.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Right. So that's why when I get on some of these programs, people are probably bored with my attitude because I barely have a pulse when discussing some of this stuff. I'm like, is that really what is that really what we're going to be doing in 2023? Is that is that conversation going to have any meaning? Again, it's distraction.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: And we're going to have more and more of that as we move forward. Look, as society begins to break down, as we see more and more Twitter pics of clown world, right? I mean, that's going to be never ending. And it's going to get to a point where you can't even look at that. Like you got to stay focused on what am I here to do?
• 31:21
  What has God called me to? How do I protect my family? How do I build community? How do I like getting back to just avoiding the bread and circuses as Rome is burning? Okay.
• 31:35
  And because there's going to be plenty of that distraction going forward, and there's going to be more and more of it as more people are easily distracted and succumb to the pressure of the moment. And that's what we're really going through. We're about to go through a pipeline of pressure. Okay. Whether, whether it's geopolitical with the Russian and China and the bricks, whether it's economic with the dollar and treasuries and the stock market, whether it's food security, whether it's earth changes, these big macro themes, that you and Mike Adams and some others are are really warning the people about.
• 32:14
  Those are the things that that we really need to be paying attention, to in in making our own preparation for in when I look at most things, like most things when I look at something, put it in a bucket. Like what is that? Does that have to do with food security? Does that have to do with logistics? Does that have to do with energy policy?
• 32:38
  Does that have to do with, I mean, there's some main topics. Peter Zahan has covered those and the end of the world is just the beginning, right? So you start to look at or is this just nothing but distraction? Okay. And and because we're bare there's barely gonna be enough time in the day and you have enough mental energy and resources to prepare for what is really coming historically without spending time watching side fights in the bar on the Titanic.
• 33:07
  Like if that's what you're into, you're not going make it to the boat. It's just not it's just not going to happen. And so I think that that's where, you know, over I think that that's where twenty twenty three Look, I think we've been in a time and I don't know if I've said this to you, but I think we've been in a time of the last twenty years has been a time of warning. And Alex Jones really pioneered that. And I think we need to give, you know, tip our hat to what he did, you know, because he was out there, you know, for so many years really on his own doing this and trying to wake people up to where humanity what was coming.
• 33:51
  But I'm telling you, if if the next five years is about waking people up, we're done. We lose. Like, point is not to wake everybody up. Okay, the point is to wake enough people up so that we can then empower them and come together in communities in and transform this world. Okay.
• 34:22
  So there was a point at which the civil rights movement was no longer out waking up their own people. Right? They were going to transition to I have a dream to leadership, what true leadership does, which is cast an alternate vision in what the powers of the present day are feeding the people. And that's what Martin Luther King Junior did. Okay?
• 34:49
  That's what all good leaders do is they cast an alternative vision and rally people to that vision and empower people in accomplishing said vision. Okay? Whether it's whether you're a leader in CEO America, in your own local community, on the school board, or president of The United States, that's the job of what leaders do. And so I think that that's where we need to see these conversations among the conservatives move is is it's no longer about waking people up. Look, I'm not going to sit here and have arguments with people about the vax two years into it when we're having sudden death.
• 35:26
  Like, if want to continue to believe what you want to believe, okay. I mean, that doesn't bother me. I'm not going to stop. There's enough people that are awake and aware, And instead of us having a conversation about what Biden wants to do to America or what the elite at WEF have planned for America for the next ten years. And I think this is what we're getting ready to see is we're going to see over the next, we have to, we will not make it if if between now and the next five, six years, we do not see the leadership rise up.
• 36:02
  If the leadership does not rise up and cast a new vision, okay, we're not going to make it. So let me put it to you a different way. Between 1963, I'm going cover 1963 to 1979 real quick. You had a sitting president assassinated. You had the leader of the civil rights movement assassinated.
• 36:30
  You had the ex attorney general, brother of the said president, assassinated. You had an unpopular war in Indonesia or in Vietnam kill 58,000 troops. You had college campuses, riots, burnings on the said college campuses. You had a disconnect. They disconnected the dollar from the gold standard.
• 36:54
  That same president resigned in disgrace. His vice president also resigned. The next president was there was an attempted assassination on the next president. And we ended '79 with massive inflation and a debacle in the Mideast trying to rescue some hostages. That was a sixteen year blank show.
• 37:23
  That was sixteen years of a disaster. Disaster in foreign policy, disaster in economic policy, disaster in military policy, disaster in on the home front socially. Like, you'd be hard pressed to find another sixteen year period in American history, which was that dysfunctional. And yet, it changed overnight in 1980, when a B rated actor showed up with a vision, a real vision for America, and it was mourning in America. And I understand that the moral decay now is greater than it was even in the sixties and seventies.
• 38:13
  I get all that. But what I'm telling you is that we have to have the leadership arise that is going to lead us back to greatness, both to a moral compass as well as social and political informed compass. There's got to be a vision. If we if that is lacking, this country will not make it. I'm telling it will.
• 38:40
  It cannot make it.
• 38:41
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. You know, when you're talking about kind of waking everybody up and okay, well, they're awake now. It's almost like it's everyone's sleeping in a burning building. And as you know, you're going in there and you're waking everyone up and say 20% are now awake, but they're still sitting inside of a burning building. And like the person next to them is sleeping and they're awake standing there.
• 39:06
  So it's not just about waking up, like what next do you go find a hose do you you know wake up do you you know find the exits and start you know kind of shuffling people out like what are what are the actions that come next and you know it's it's interesting your perspective on vision. Right? Because I've, you know, I've studied a lot of, I guess people call it self help type stuff. Right? You know, Tony Robbins, Napoleon Hill, whatever you want to look at it.
• 39:37
  And one of the big things is really, and I believe this, that the vision that we have for our future or ourselves, like if we think, if we look to the future and we see ourselves being overweight, working the same job, you know, you know, watching, you know, sports and wrestling at night and drinking a six pack every Friday night with some buddies, you're gonna probably end up there, right? You know, but if you have a vision for yourself, it's very cemented that you're, you're fit, you're healthy, you're living the life that you want to live, you're going to probably end up closer to that. Actually, there's a lot of studies about this. I think there's one called the, retic- something reticulating method or something that basically it's how there's a part of your subconscious that when you set a goal or a vision, that part of your subconscious will actually drive you towards that vision. It's almost like if the best analogy is that if you're shopping for a car, and all of sudden you realize like you're seeing that, you know, that Subaru car everywhere now.
• 40:37
  It's like, they not there yet before? No. It's because you established a goal and a vision for yourself and your subconscious is now working to bring you towards that. Right? And you're saying, oh, I didn't notice that right there.
• 40:49
  Like, and that's, it's a very common thing, and a lot of books on psychology get into this. But what's interesting is that if you look at America, you look at, you look at the vision that our founding fathers had. It was an incredible vision. And actually, I think that, you know, the fact that a lot of the founding fathers and a lot of people that were the formation of our country were, it was, you know, a lot of it was the black robe regimen. Like these are the, a lot of the priests and pastors that were, very, very involved in forming the vision, which I think was a very divinely inspired vision for what America could become.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 41:25
  Seth Holehouse: And at that time America didn't exist. So you'd have to have a pretty darn good vision to to create this country that at that time didn't exist. It was just a world of different levels of tyranny. But if we look at where America is at right now, and you look at the, as you know, the leadership, the people, you look at, you know, there's these folks like you and me and a lot of the audience that are watching and listening, they would say, yeah, we're awake. We're trying to save our country from communism.
• 41:52
  We're trying to really create a country that, you know, our kids and our grandkids can grow up in and have a have a good life. But it's like, what is the like, what's the vision? Because if I were to ask myself, it's like, what's your vision you'd hope for in the future, right, in ten years? It's like, well, I hope we're not overrun by the Chinese. You know what I mean?
• 42:14
  It's like, hope I'm not in a gulag. You know what I mean? I hope I'm not in a FEMA camp. I hope that, you know, they're not forcing the vaccine into me by then. You know, so it's almost like our vision now has just become because we've been so hit with this onslaught of truth.
• 42:32
  And the truth is that yes, a lot of these dark, Luciferian groups and people and Satan himself, they want to bring our world into that. They want to create hunger games where children are fighting and killing other children to survive. That's what they want. But it's kind of like, well, where's our vision? And where's the where's the vision for America that's really worth fighting for?
• 42:58
  And of course, I'm gonna fight to try to give my daughter, you know, a future. But like, where's that vision that's that's inspiring? Because every time I've accomplished something great in my life, it's always been because I had a vision of what it was going to be like. Right? When my wife and I, when we first created the plot of Seal America, you know, before we even created that, my vision was to be on stage, you know, talking with, you know, the the leaders in this movement.
• 43:28
  And I just, you know, met Eric Trump this past weekend and, and shared a stage with him and had a great conversation. Was like, oh, that was, but that was the vision I had set forth. But if you look at our country, right, because I think that we, yeah, you're right. We're really missing two things. We're missing vision and we're missing leadership.
• 43:46
  And I know that, you know, that there's people like Trump that, you know, make America great again, and there's, you know, that that's something, but I I feel like it's still missing. Like, there's still something missing. And you look around, and it's like, if you look back at again, the founding fathers, there were so many heroes that stood for and do that. It's kind of like, where are these heroes today? Where are these leaders today?
• 44:10
  And where's the vision at?
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And they weren't just like And if you look at so here's a couple of thoughts on the leadership. If you look at the and this is a historical fact, I'm not going to get into it and defend it. All I'm just going to say is that when you get three to 5% of the population actively engaged in revolution, it is successful. That's all it takes, three to 5%.
• 44:40
  So this is why this waking up, we got to wake up thirty, forty, 50, 60. We need a % of America awake. No. We've got enough people awake, time to move on.
• 44:50
  Seth Holehouse: We need 3% active instead of 30% awake.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Right. It's got to be active. So, the Revolutionary War, less than 5% actively participated in the Revolutionary War. Okay. But if you go back to think about the tremendous amount of writing that was pouring out from these various founding fathers.
• 45:17
  Okay? I I mean, the thought there was a there wasn't just leadership with George Washington. Clearly, there was a point person. He he historically has given that point. But all those guys who were signing the declaration, there were so many leaders, thought leaders, economic leaders, military leaders that there was a coming together, where God really brought together leadership in a number of domains for a single purpose.
• 45:46
  I guarantee you they didn't all get along. I guarantee you that they didn't have the same political bent. I mean, this is why eventually you get the Federalists and Anti Federalist papers. Right? I mean, they could agree to disagree on a host of issues, but when it came to independence, they all were in agreement.
• 46:05
  Okay? And I think that that's where that's where we need to get to with our fellow man, with our fellow American. Because the game plan is to divide and conquer. So they can divide us on a million issues. And because the average American wants to will play that game.
• 46:25
  You can't get five Americans to decide on where to eat dinner together. Okay? I mean, it's just complete everybody and and it really reminds me biblically of the time of the judges, where the Bible says every man did what was right in his own eyes. And let me tell you, that will end in your destruction because there's a synergistic effect that takes place when everybody is working together for a single purpose or a single goal. That's where leadership, true leadership comes in to really lift up that goal, lift up that light to cast vision and to empower the said people to work together towards that common goal.
• 47:04
  So a couple of things I would say that we, we have to have it. If we don't have it, this doesn't work. Okay. If because why? Because the other side has a vision.
• 47:15
  They've been telling you their vision for fifty years. The WF has a vision, the Biden administration, the globalists have a vision, like they're not lacking vision. Okay. And what we've been doing on the conservative right is putting is fighting yesterday's battle socially and culturally for forty freaking years. We are constantly fighting and they're moving on while we're fight.
• 47:42
  I mean, while we're fighting homosexuality or some other thing, they're moving on to transgender. When we, when we finally pivot to fight transgender, I mean, they're moving on. Mean, that's true. And, and, and nothing changes. They continue to nothing changes at least on our end.
• 47:59
  And the way that you, the way that you bring all that to a grinding halt is literally the way Reagan brought it. He literally brought the entire decay of America to a halt. He first had a vision learning in America, and then he had to go in there. And, we had to turn the military around. We had to turn foreign policy around.
• 48:18
  We had to turn the Department of Education around. I mean, yes, there was active there was things that but there were people that were joining with him, both congressmen, both senators at the local grassroots level. There was plenty of young people that were getting involved. Okay. The military was was radically being transformed as cause their recruitment post Vietnam was a debacle.
• 48:42
  It was a complete disaster. Okay. So if you look at the eighties and what Reagan accomplished, it is act, it is quite remarkable against the backdrop of the sixties and seventies. It really and I don't think many people really ponder it and think about what they experienced, but it was bad news going into '79. Okay.
• 49:04
  It had been twenty years of a literally a cultural dismantling of The United States. And he bought time. Now, did he return us to the 1950s? No. And this is is this is an ongoing battle.
• 49:20
  So I think people, you know, people have this idea of, well, we're going to go back. We just I just want to go back to the way it was pre COVID. I just want to go. That's not the way history works. Okay?
• 49:29
  You're not going back, but we can fight for what the vision of tomorrow is going to look like. Okay? So, part of my appeal to people right now is look, part of leadership is a timing issue. We talked about the markets being timing, part of leadership is a timing issue. Meaning that, I mean, five years before Abraham Lincoln's having impact, does anybody know who he is?
• 50:05
  Mean, five years before George Washington, five years before, Eisenhower, MacArthur, Pat, you know, I mean, even Kennedy, right? John F. Kennedy. I mean, so so we've they are usually not on the scene for decades as household names, and then Reagan is another perfect example. Okay?
• 50:32
  Nobody in their wildest dreams thought he was gonna do what he what his legacy ended up being. Okay. Even when he was attempting to run-in '76, nobody had an idea that in '88 what he would have done in The United States. And so part of this is where we can't look at the conditions right now and lose hope. We can't look we got we got two out of three things going on.
• 50:55
  We got sheep, and they're behaving like sheep, so that depresses us. I try and remind people, guess what sheep do? Cheaper sheep. Okay? Cheaper there to be sheared.
• 51:08
  I'm not going to go into that. That's just the way it's going to be. Okay? You've got wicked men behaving wickedly. Okay?
• 51:18
  They're they're being true to their nature. Okay, so I'm not going to get bent out of shape about that. But there's a third component, which is there's godly men and women that provide leadership. That's what's missing in this equation. That's the problem.
• 51:31
  The problem isn't the sheep being sheep or wicked being wicked. It's the lack of godly leadership. Okay? So this is a clarion call for for the the mighty men of Valor and the Davids to come forth out of those caves. Now, I said it was a tie it's a it's a season.
• 51:50
  It's a timing issue because there is a time when the Davids are being groomed in caves. There's the times when the Queen Esters are not queens yet. There's the time when when these generals on the battlefield are not yet generals. Okay? They're being groomed by God for such a time as this.
• 52:09
  So I I I want to encourage people that we have to constantly be engaged, we have to be constantly providing leadership. And look, am I going to provide leadership on a national stage? Well, not right now. That doesn't mean I'm not leading in my home. That doesn't mean I don't speak truth right here on this podcast.
• 52:29
  All of us need to step forward and do everything in our power that God will enable and allow us to do and take care of our business today and stop worrying about everybody else. Like I can't worry about Trump and everybody else. If I'm cheating on my wife, and I'm failing to speak to darkness, and I'm not being a leader in my home, and I'm giving God a bad name. Then dude, I'm so so I don't even know what's going on. Right?
• 52:59
  But yet, I got to get Trump elected because he's going to fix it.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: But I'm part of the problem.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Right? I mean, this is where we all have to check ourselves and not put the weight of the world or the weight of this nation on one man. Okay.
• 53:14
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. And I think that if you look at the the kind of battle that's being waged, that, you know, we know, look, this is it's it's information war. It's unrestricted warfare. You know, as you know, as for the Chinese, it's spiritual warfare. There's propaganda wrapped in propaganda, lapped wrapped in deception, wrapped in lies, and then wrapped in some kind of famous celebrity.
• 53:40
  Like, it's it's I mean, that's what we're we're dealing with. And, you know, even within the the so called truth movement, there's massive fracturing and and people saying this person's controlled opposition, this person's controlled opposition. And and then you look at, you know, what's happening with the the clown show of the White House and all this stuff. And it's you described it really well. It's like the the Titanic is is is sinking.
• 54:06
  And, you know, Biden what Biden's doing, it's just it's just like a a fistfight on the the side of the dining room by two Trump guys. Yeah. Right? You know, I think that that's also all part of the design. Because I think there's lot of people that, like, we want to try to do something, but we look out into the world and it's like, well, maybe I'll get involved in helping, you know, Carrie Lake's political campaign or I'm gonna share memes of Biden on Facebook and hope to wake up my friends or, you know, I'm not I'm not sullying those things because we're all just trying to do whatever we can do.
• 54:38
  But I think that part of it is that that we have been so scrambled that I think a lot of people, they don't even know what to do. Right? Because it's it's like, okay, well, if you want me to lead, I mean, how do I lead? What do I do? Do I, you know, go organize a march in DC?
• 54:55
  Or do I, you know, go to the farm market and start bartering or, you know, and so I think that that's that's a big part of it is it's kinda like, well, like, what do we do? Right? Because I I also I I do really do believe that you look at the bread and circuses. Well, the bread and circuses played a role in distracting people from probably the actions they could have taken to have helped save Rome. Right?
• 55:20
  But it was the populace that wasn't paying attention and got led, you know, led along that then they woke up one day and their their room had fallen. And so, and I really like the, like the analogy or like that really stood out to me what you said about like, you know, 3% of us being active in the right way is more important than 30% of us being awake. And, and so in your in kind of in your opinion or your experience or how you're approaching things in your life, what are those ways if someone came to you and said, hey, look, I'm a father, I've got two kids, I'm married, I live in, you know, I work a kind of a machine job, I'm making $60,000 a year, not a whole lot of extra money to do too much. What can I do? Like what, you know, if the Titanic is sinking, and should I, what are the actions?
• 56:16
  Should I start building a life raft? What's that look like? Like, what does it look like for you? Because what's that vision of what people are stepping forward and doing?
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you real quickly some kind of canned responses that you'd be here, but they're legit. They're not canned in the sense it's not real. But then I wanna take that a little bit further. So here's my admonition. Look, in in like you just said, it's it's spiritual, it's a mental, and it's a physical fight.
• 56:49
  So you need to be preparing on all three fronts. Okay? Body, mind, soul, and spirit, right? So, you know, spiritually, obviously, you to be spending time in prayer. You need to be spending mean, prayer, prayer, prayer.
• 57:02
  I mean, you cannot prayer, prayer for the leaders, prayer for this nation, prayer for this world, prayer for yourself, your family, like prayer, prayer, prayer. Never can't pray too much. Right? So there's the the whole spiritual preparation because I can tell you, you can have all the gold in the world, all the money in the world, all the prep. And if you don't know God, what does it profit a man?
• 57:21
  To gain the whole world and lose his soul. Okay, we know that. Okay. But but I'm being serious about that. You got to take care of that business.
• 57:28
  And then the intellectual side, I I think understanding, you know, these larger main topics, these themes so that your mental energy is not being drained, like I can read an extraordinary amount daily. I can be I can and it does not even begin to overwhelm me. Because it's like, you put that in that bucket that goes here because I read that master, you know, I got the 60,000 foot view. So you put that over in that bucket that goes in column C that goes in column D. Okay, move on.
• 57:58
  I'm not sitting here going, Oh my gosh, I can't believe that that X happened. What does that mean? Like, I mean, literally, can consume a tremendous amount of information and hardly take any energy. Okay? Because you have the right mindset is what I'm saying.
• 58:15
  Okay? Just like if you have the right mindset, when you go to the gym, you can do a lot in a short amount of time. There's people that are in and out in forty five minutes, and they do more than the guy sitting, standing around talking for two hours in the gym. Okay. It's really your approach and your mindset.
• 58:37
  But I'm a big believer moving past, you know, in in in financially getting out of debt and gold and silver. And I mean, all the stuff you've talked about that everybody knows you need to be working on. Okay? And you're not and you're not gonna accomplish all of this tomorrow morning. You need to lay out a plan.
• 58:54
  This is a plan to pay off my debt. This is a plan to acquire gold and silver. This is a plan like just a little here and there. So I tell people don't plan on reading a book, start tomorrow and read five pages.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: You got five minutes? Spend five minutes.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you this cumulative effect, you will end up reading so much over the next year if you just start off with five minutes. But we're all like most of our mindset is I've got to find thirty minutes or an hour when my life is perfect, then I will go do X. And that's not the way your life is never going work that way. Okay? But getting to more practical or getting to the real meat of what you're asking.
• 59:39
  I'm a big believer that you bloom where you're planted. I'm a big believer that you, each each person in your audience has extraordinary gifts and talents they've been developed that they've been developing over their lifetime. Okay? And we as we're praying, one of the prayers should be God open doors so that I can be I can have an impact. Okay?
• 1:00:14
  Let me tell you, if you pray prayers like that, not prayers, hey, God, give me $10,000,000. Hey, God, I'd like to have a nicer house. Hey, God. Like, if you start praying real prayers about having impact in affecting your fellow man, he's gonna answer those prayers. Okay?
• 1:00:30
  Those are easy. Now you're in alignment with what he wants. Okay? And so the school teacher has a tremendous impact. Like, we can go through the careers and really they all have tremendous impact, but you're going to have to step up within that industry and and be vulnerable, take a stand, speak truth to power, not compromise.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's what leadership does. Leadership just doesn't cast a vision and get everybody to sign a petition. Okay.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Leadership pays a heavy price. Look, John F. Kennedy paid a heavy price. Martin Luther King Junior paid a heavy price. The signers of the declaration paid a heavy price.
• 1:01:17
  What part of leadership do you not understand? Like, do you will pay a heavy price? Okay? But they also are recorded in the history books because they forever changed the direction of millions and millions and millions of individuals. Okay?
• 1:01:37
  So we've got to get to now if we try and save ourselves, if we're like, I'm not willing to make that sacrifice, I can guarantee you'll lose. Because there's another thing that that is biblical, which is if you're willing to lose your life, you'll gain it. And if you if you try and save your life, you're gonna lose it. Okay, it's that simple. If we all act out of desperation, to save ourselves individually, and we don't take a stand and we're don't aren't willing to pay the sacrifice, we will pay the sacrifice, but we'll just all fall individually.
• 1:02:08
  Okay. And history is very clear about that. So this gets this gets to a conversational level where you you've got to decide what what do I want to see America look like? What do I personally want to see America look like in in in re absolve like, I think right now the time the times that we're living in are really there for us before the leadership shows up to work through these issues. Like, what price is Seth or Aaron willing to make?
• 1:02:41
  What are what is the price their families are willing to make? And then we begin to pay that price within our own industry or within our own social circles. Right? Like probably some of the things you've said over the last three years, significantly altered relationships, significantly altered relationships for me, right? Like there, there was a price to be paid, but we, but the vision that those people embraced, we could not embrace.
• 1:03:07
  We were not going there. Okay. And that's going to continue in it, in the light and the dark. These choices are going to become more radical, more diametrically opposed. That's just the way it's going to be to a point that that we can't.
• 1:03:26
  It's not, it's not just that we don't want their vision we need. Okay, so what does life look like? Like, for example, education. Okay. It's no, it's no longer good enough to say, well, I don't want to, I don't want to have my child exposed to transgender agenda in the classroom.
• 1:03:43
  Okay. Well, that's a start. Thank thank you, God. Right? But what do you, what do you want their educational experience to look like?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: Okay. And then begin to move towards that vision. Okay. Regardless of whether it's private school or homeschool or community or like, there's all kinds of choices, but you have to have a much clearer vision of why don't want that. What do you want?
• 1:04:06
  Now I would say this for those with children. And I said this last week, and I'm starting to say this more and be more vocal about it. And yes, I'm I have an education or my wife and I are starting an education company. We'll talk about that more another day. But this is not because this is the industry that I'm in.
• 1:04:29
  Because I don't have any educational background experience. That's just what we're building a tech company to address some of these issues in education. But I said on Hagman's, I can't think I can't think of a more important domain than children and education in America right now. I think that literally ground zero for the battle for America is with children right now. I don't think it's the vax as important as that is.
• 1:05:07
  I don't think it's the bricks as important as that is. I don't think it's involvement in Ukraine as important as that is. If we lose these children in the next five to ten years, I am going to assure you your nation is lost. Okay? I will I will guarantee it.
• 1:05:33
  Here's why. They're they're introducing all this nonsense into the schools at the kindergarten level. Let's jump to second grade. In ten years of indoctrination, that second grader will graduate from school and more importantly be a voter. This country, if you think you can't recognize this nation today, I will assure you in ten years, it will be darker than any of us can imagine.
• 1:06:10
  Okay? And I'm telling you, you will not be able to change that individual. After ten years of that kind of depraved mind, you will not be able to change them. Okay? So I to me, I literally think when I think of terms of World War three or the fight for this nation, I think in terms of children, the hearts and minds, like right now.
• 1:06:38
  Okay. Not five years, not ten years from now. Like if we don't engage this fight. So what am I saying? I'm saying to the person listening to me that has children and they're thinking maybe getting politically involved or maybe donating to a pack or they're thinking all these other things.
• 1:06:56
  I'm like, dude, ground zero is at your dinner table. Ground zero is you're tucking ground zero into bed tonight. Okay. Like get like the best thing you can do for America right now is to engage your children. Engage, engage, engage, because they're either going to be the most perverse generations that has ever been produced in The United States, or they are going to be literally, they could be the greatest generation that stood in a historical moment and in this nation's history and literally held back the darkness.
• 1:07:33
  Okay. So to me, and I didn't, I didn't think I'd be saying this five years ago. This is all coming to me as this, but, but I'm also noticing, I know we got to wrap this up, so I'll be real short on this stuff, that the battle is coming full circle because the battle for this nation began in the schools in the nineteen sixties. The battle began to change those hearts and minds and to remove God from the schools. And I find it incredible that it has now come full.
• 1:08:09
  And then they went off into Hollywood and they went off into the government and they went off into the media and we can talk about all the economy changed and Wall Street changed. We talk about all these other mountains that they attacked, but they attacked the children first. And now they're coming back again to ground zero in the school system with the children once again. I'm telling you, if we don't win that battle this time around, nothing else matters.
• 1:08:42
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, that's I think I think it was it Stalin or Lenin, but one of them said, you know, think it's, know, give me a child's child for, I think, for four years, and I'll plant a seed that will never be uprooted. And that's true. I mean, that's the thing is that it's those it's the formative years. I can even see, you know, my daughter, she's two. And I can see already how she is, I think, establishing habits and personality traits and ways of interacting.
• 1:09:08
  Like, you know, she's already trained to say thank you, to say please and thank you, as an example. You know like it just it's just trained into her now that that just is something that becomes part of her personality to say can I have this please or you know here you go oh thank you right versus you know if you try training that training that into a kid at eight years old, good luck? Right? You know, maybe.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Or as the as the Bible says, raise up a child in the ways of the Lord, and when he is old, he
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: will not depart from it. Yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, let's let's change one word. Raise up a child in the admonition of the devil. And when he is old, you will not depart from it.
• 1:09:49
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, it works both ways people. Like, like, like, the seeds, this is all the principle of sowing and reaping. So if we're gonna sow destruction in a generation, guess what we're gonna reap? If we're gonna sow life into a generation and identity and destiny into this next generation, we will reap identity destiny. I mean, it'll be awesome.
• 1:10:16
  We'll reap life. But but but but it's what are we sowing? And and I and I find that most people I'm having to talk about this because I think that it's missing. I mean, everybody when I say what I'm saying, everybody nods, yes, there's an agreement. But we'll find out whether there's whether it's at their activated into motion, whether there's whether it just it's not just a thought, but because let me tell you this, and you know this as a father.
• 1:10:49
  There's really nothing harder than fathering, because fathering requires you to be attentive when you're tired. You know, fathering requires you to do things you really don't want to do. You didn't really enjoy it when you were that age, and you certainly don't want to do it in your 30s. Okay. In but that's what we signed up for.
• 1:11:11
  We're fathers. So I don't really care that you didn't know what you were signing up for. You're now a father. You're now like, I'm sorry. But in in and so, and it can be the most rewarding and it in it in it in it.
• 1:11:24
  And I know they've taken away from that in our culture. I know that we have dishonored fathering and mothering for well over a generation. I mean, this is all part of the plan, right? So that the state can fill that. But this is really this is really a return and without getting into Malachi and in Micah and all all those verses that are talking about the hearts of the fathers returning to the children, lest he comes and smites the land with a curse.
• 1:11:52
  Okay. I do think that that there's going, look, we're going to have total absentee parenting, and we're going to have, I think, some really awesome parenting. And it's going to be a dichotomy of the two in in. So if you can't, if you if God isn't telling you how to get involved, I know he's telling you to get involved with your kids. And that probably right now, and here's the reason why those kids hang out with kids.
• 1:12:21
  And maybe those other kids aren't being fathered, aren't being mothered, don't have a moral compass, are being lied to. Okay. This is where our kids are, can be light at the youngest of ages, right? Where the Lord can speak to them at the age of two, three, four, five, they can be a more powerful witness than you and me at times. Okay.
• 1:12:46
  So, really think that it literally is about our children in this moment in time.
• 1:12:53
  Seth Holehouse: I actually couldn't agree more. I really, yeah, especially, I mean, it goes deeper if you look into the role of the children, but also how children have been used as a commodity and we can the trafficking of children and, you know, the agenda behind the gender confusion and all this. I mean, it's really it's warping things. And I think that like what the attack that we're seeing on our children, I think it's the most direct attack I've ever seen on God in, on in this in this realm, you know, where even the children are being told that they're the opposite gender or, the fundamental truths that we've been given are being distorted. So I certainly
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: And I would say that I would also add to it that this is probably one of the last steps towards transhumanism. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because they've been attacking the mind and the emotional state, and, changing the roles in society for, you know, we've been doing this for forty, fifty, sixty years, but when you attack a child's sexuality,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: okay.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: That that is that is at a such a deep emotional and intellectual and spiritual level that they're not gonna recover or like they could recover, but they're like we know, like, when there's sexually damaged children that obviously come out of that and and that the Lord redeems, but they they they are they're damaged goods. And I know some of these individuals. There there there is a there is a damage that probably this side of heaven cannot be undone. Okay. And when you're doing this now on a mass global scale,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: okay.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: I I really I I think it's the last step towards transhumanism. It's the last where they're they're literally separating. There there's gonna be such emotional and spiritual damage in these individuals that's gonna set them up for true transhumanism. That's just what I see that they're doing. And the rage that nobody is talking about, I have not heard anybody talk about the rage that's will be in society ten, fifteen years from now when a multitude of these victims are into adulthood.
• 1:15:29
  I'm telling you, there's going to be some rage against the machine, against society, the likes of which we've never seen. So we just, in the devil, the devil at different times in history has targeted children to wipe out an entire generation because he knew the impact that that generation was supposed to have.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And so now here's the good news. I want to leave you with this as good news. And I've been saying this for two years. I'm sure you've said the same thing.
• 1:16:05
  The fact that we're sitting here in 2023 and two years ago, nobody thought Roe v Wade would be upended. Okay. God had a nice surprise for America to kick that back to the state level. If you I couldn't I couldn't ask for a more clear sign from the Lord that he is fighting over this generation. Okay.
• 1:16:34
  Because that got completely upended at the state level. He is intimately involved in in regenerating and redeeming this current generation. And he hasn't forgotten about America. He hasn't written us off. I refuse to go down those conversational roads.
• 1:16:52
  That doesn't mean we make it. It just means it just means we can't give up. It means the future is unwritten and it's what we're going to make of it. And so it's really an appeal and I know we'll have deeper conversations about what more, what, what I'm doing and what other people can get involved with with children. But, I think that's going to be ground zero.
• 1:17:17
  I think we're going here's a, I'll leave you with this. The greatest generation did not look like the greatest generation during the great depression. Okay. Like w I know we like these men and women who sacrificed or were willing to sacrifice everything between 40 and 41 and 45. I mean, these were the kids in the great depression and not all of them had a great father and mother and experience.
• 1:17:55
  I mean, it was the great depression. It was horrific. Okay. So it's just to say that we can't lose hope. I want, I always want to leave people with hope that I can't do anything.
• 1:18:12
  I can't do anything about how many days are left in The United States. That's between God and history. I can't do anything about the Chinese. I can't, there's a lot of things that we discuss that we should be awake and aware about that we can't impact, but we have got to, we have got to be light in a very dark world. We have got to stand for truth.
• 1:18:34
  We have to, and I'm not just talking verbal. I mean, our actions have to be in alignment with our mouth. We got to, we, we have to, there has to be congruency in our life. Okay. And I think that that that is going to be a very powerful tool for change as the average person is nothing.
• 1:18:59
  I mean, they're nowhere close to a semblance of symmetry or congruency or like they're just a mess. The average person is a mess on an economic, social and personal level. And, and we forget those of us that, that do know God and that really, are trying to, to shine in a dark world. I think our best days are ahead of us. I really do.
• 1:19:27
  Because in the 1950s you could be moral and upstanding and that was just kind of so was everybody else. I'm telling you, if you're a faithful husband today,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: that's a rare
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: breed. If you're, if you're a good employee, that's rare. If you're a, if you're a great father, that's even rarer. I mean, we, we really need to appreciate and allow those are the things that we can do that testify to people. They're different.
• 1:20:05
  There is something different about Seth. I'm not sure what it is, but I got to talk to him.
• 1:20:12
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. Well, those are some good words to end on. And I'd like to, you know, obviously, we'll be back on again. In this could be another two or three hour conversations. I've got a whole, like list of things that we could be talking about as this conversation continues.
• 1:20:26
  But I appreciate, you know, spending the time with us and having this conversation. And I think it's I want to continue these types of conversations because, you know, while I do a lot of coverage about, you know, what's happening and, you know, interviewing scientists or doctors about the vaccine or, you know, people about, you know, the food, you know, prepping, etcetera. I think it's also important to have these, you know, hundred thousand foot view discussions about where we're at, where we're heading, and what's the future look like. So, so Aaron, thanks again for coming. It's just it's always great having you on and just take care and God bless.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. And this is my privilege. And thank you again. And I look forward to speaking with you soon.
• 1:21:07
  Seth Holehouse: Alright. Take care.