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Elon Musk and Jensen Huang Make Future Predictions At U.S.-Saudi Arabia Forum · Elon Musk Podcast

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  Thank you so much. Well, it's mostly not
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  disruption, it's creation. So with say SpaceX with reusable
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  rockets, they really weren't any reusable rockets.
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  But the essence of getting, of revolutionizing space travel is
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  reusability. If you throw the rocket away
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  every time, the cost of access to space is extremely high.
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  With respect to electric cars, that there weren't any electric
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  cars when we started making them, really, that you couldn't
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  buy any, to the best of my knowledge.
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  So with Tesla, we wanted to make electric cars compelling and
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  affordable. That was the goal.
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  The, you know, with respect to humanoid robotics, there are no
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  useful humanoid robotics robots at this point.
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  There are sort of gimmicks, but there are not.
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  There are no actually useful humanoid robots.
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  And I think Tesla's going to make the first actually useful
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  humanoid robots. And this will be quite a
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  revolution. And I think something that will
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  that everyone will want. Because I was thinking like, who
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  wouldn't want their own personal C3 POR 2D2?
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  Oh yeah, of course everyone would want one, right?
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  And, and then there would be many in industry providing
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  products and services. This is why I say that humanoid
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  robots will be the biggest industry or the biggest product
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  ever, bigger than cell phones or anything else, because
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  everyone's going to want one and or maybe wasn't more than one,
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  and there'll be many in industry.
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  I just want R2D2 in C3PO's body. Yeah, well, I mean, a humanoid
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  robot will be better than R2D2 and C3 VO combined times 10.
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  So the and and you know, people often talk about sort of
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  eliminating poverty and that kind of thing.
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  But really the how long have they been talking about that?
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  There's lots of talk, you know, lots of NGOs sort of trying to
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  do these things but but really not succeeding.
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  And and you know, the evidence speaks for itself.
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  But but but AI and humanoid robots will actually eliminate
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  poverty and Tesla won't be the only one that makes them.
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  I mean Tesla will pioneer this but there will be many other
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  companies that make humanoid robots.
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  But there there is only basically one way to make
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  everyone wealthy and that is AI and robotics.
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  And we can't talk about robotics without AI factories.
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  And yesterday was such a historic day for the two
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  nations, but also for all of us, where we celebrate the AI
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  strategic partnership with the US signed witnessed by the
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  honorable President and His Royal Highness about how we are
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  committing our capital energy land to energize the Aius
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  ecosystem, to be able to build inference node training nodes
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  and to be the most AI enabled nation.
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  With that announcement, tell me, what's what's next in AI
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  factories, Jensen? There's a, there's a beautiful
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  story about how Saudi Arabia's building AI refineries now
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  building AI factory oil refineries to AI factories.
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  I love that. You know, I've said that AI is
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  an infrastructure and the reason for that, of course we
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  understand AI from the perspective of the technology
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  and how it's revolutionizing every industry.
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  Digital intelligence, of course, has applications into every
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  field. And so it's going to be used by
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  every company, every industry, every country in that way.
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  It's foundational and therefore it's part of infrastructure.
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  What is new about AI from a computer science perspective is
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  that the way computing was done in the past was largely
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  retrieval based computing. Somebody typed in a story, or
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  somebody created a a piece of art, or came came up with four
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  versions of a digital ad, or it's all pre built by somebody
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  which is then using a system to retrieve the appropriate version
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  for you. It's a retrieval based computing
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  model. Hadoop and many of the the
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  frameworks and operating systems of the past all designed to
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  retrieve the appropriate information for you.
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  But today software is going to be generated in real time.
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  It's generative based on the context, based on the
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  circumstance, based on who you are, based on the problem.
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  You ask that based on your prompt, it will generate unique
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  content for you every single time, for everybody.
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  It's unique when you use Grok, every time you use it is
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  different just based on the right, based on, based on the,
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  based on the prompt that you give it and based on the
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  circumstance and and so therefore it used to be
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  retrieval based. Today it's generative.
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  And if it's generative then and every time is different, then
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  you need AI factories all over the world to generate the
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  content in real time, which is the reason why you need AI
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  factories and and this is a unique way of doing computation.
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  But the benefit of course is that everything isn't
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  preconceived and pre documented and it's it's contextually sent,
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  contextually sensible and and therefore intelligent.
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  So AI factories and robotics, and we heard it yesterday from
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  His Royal Highness, His Vision, how to augment our workforce
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  with roughly 10s of millions of robotics to be able to infuse
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  the next wave of productivity and progress.
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  But this cares a lot of folks here when it comes to the future
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  of jobs. So let's hear about your
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  thoughts, Elan and Jensen on that.
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  Sure. Well, if you say like in the
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  long term, where will things end up long term?
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  I don't know what long term is, maybe it's 1020 years, something
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  like that. For me, that's long term.
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  My prediction is that work will be optional, optional, optional.
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  So. We'll take that.
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  Yeah, I mean, it'll be like playing sports or a video game
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  or something like that. If you want to work, you know,
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  in the same way like you can, you can go to the store and just
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  buy some vegetables or you could grow vegetables in your
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  backyard. It's much harder to grow
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  vegetables in your backyard, but some people still do it because
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  I like growing growing vegetables.
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  That will be what work is like optional.
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  And between now and then there's actually a lot of work to get to
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  that point. And always recommend people read
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  yen Banks culture books to get a sense for what a probable
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  positive AI future is like. And interestingly, in those
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  books money is no longer doesn't exist.
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  It's kind of interesting and I my guess is in if you go out
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  long enough, assuming there's a continued improvement in AI and
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  robotics, which this seems likely, the money will will will
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  stop being relevant at some point in the future.
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  There will still be constraints on power like in it like
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  electricity and mass. The fundamental physics elements
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  will still be like, still be constraints, but I think at some
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  point currency becomes irrelevant.
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  Jensen, any thoughts? By the way, the NVIDIA earnings
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  calls later today. And by the way, since currencies
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  were relevant. Cheers Elon just wants to share
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  with you for breaking. News to.
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  Share some breaking news. Let's see.
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  I would say, I would say there there's a different horizons you
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  could look at everybody's jobs will be different that I think
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  that that's for sure how how the students learn will be
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  different. How people do their work will be
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  different, obviously, because a lot of the things that that we
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  do mundanely or arduously or very difficultly are going to be
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  done very simply and and so we're going to be more
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  productive from that sense from that sense.
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  One of the things that I will say is that for most people or
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  company, if some, if your life becomes more productive and if
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  the things that you're doing with great difficulty become
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  simpler, it is very likely because you have so many ideas,
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  you'll have more time to go pursue things.
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  It is my guess that Elon will be busier as a result of AI.
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  I'm going to be.