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Set 2: We are the World *Cup* (w/Roger Bennett) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Our next guest has become one of the most influential
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  Speaker 1: voices at soccer, helping millions of Americans fall involved with
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful game. As the founder and CEO of men
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  Speaker 1: in Blazers Media Network, he's covered World Cups, interviewed the
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  Speaker 1: biggest stars in the sport, and brought his trademark Witt
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  Speaker 1: and storytelling to fans everywhere. And with the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: six World Cup captivating North America, he's been at the
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  Speaker 1: center of the conversation connecting.
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  Speaker 2: Fans to the game's biggest moments.
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  Speaker 1: How do you feel about that, Roger being one of
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  Speaker 1: the most influential voices, maybe the most influential voice in
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  Speaker 1: the beautiful game.
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  Speaker 3: A lot to have you say nice things about me
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  Speaker 3: on your show. I like to think of myself was
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  Speaker 3: the last thing holding football back from going over the
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  Speaker 3: top in the United States.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: It's a crazy time to be alive. If you love
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  Speaker 3: this game, and millions do, and you love this nation,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is the moment that so many of
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  Speaker 3: us have dreamed of when I moved here. Ahead of
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  Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety four Men's World Cup, there was a
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  Speaker 3: study that came out that said that soccer was the
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  Speaker 3: sixty seventh most popular sport in America and tractor pulling
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  Speaker 3: was number sixty six. And I know you go deep
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  Speaker 3: on track to pulling on this show, so I won't
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  Speaker 3: denigrate it. But now the economists just came out of
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  Speaker 3: a study that showed that football is the third biggest
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  Speaker 3: sport in America. I just did the A Rod Show
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  Speaker 3: and he just kept asking me over and over again.
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  Speaker 4: Like wins sucker going to take off? Dude.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be like, well, it kind of has, man, it's
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  Speaker 3: the third biggest. He said, where's baseball as at number four?
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  Speaker 3: And so this is kind of where we are. It's
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  Speaker 3: a crazy days to be alive. And I'm just so
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  Speaker 3: happy that the world's falling in love with America right now.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Scott's drinking Boston dry, the Norwegians rowing up
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  Speaker 3: Times Square, and America is falling in love with football.
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  Speaker 3: It's really quite a remarkable time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been awesome. Roger Bennett is with us. His
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  Speaker 1: most recent book is We Are the World Cup. In parentheses.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about the book real quick, Roger.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the World Cut I wrote it politics. If I
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  Speaker 3: had to get all my World Cup stories. The World
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  Speaker 3: Cup is like an alternate way of understanding my own biography.
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  Speaker 3: I think millions and millions of people around the world
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  Speaker 3: feel the same. The Super Bowl is enormous, two hundred
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  Speaker 3: million people a year watch it. Five billion people watch
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  Speaker 3: the World Cup final. It's just an ecstatic moment of unity.
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  Speaker 3: The World Cup is been compared to an eclipse that
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  Speaker 3: sweeps the planet for the entire duration, here blanketing the
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  Speaker 3: planet in nothing but football, sweet football. And so it's
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  Speaker 3: a very profound because it's once every four years. It's
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  Speaker 3: just a profound moment that as opposed to something that's
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  Speaker 3: just a deady diet. And so I can kind of
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  Speaker 3: map my life by World Cups. And I know that
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  Speaker 3: there's so many Americans who are coming to football and
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  Speaker 3: you and I wanted to write a book so that
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  Speaker 3: it almost had the backstory you know on Game of
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  Speaker 3: Thrones when you join in season four, you know, just
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  Speaker 3: telling you in case you missed the last four seasons.
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  Speaker 3: That's what the book is. I wanted you to know
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  Speaker 3: feel like you had lived Maradonna, that you'd live Ziedan,
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  Speaker 3: that you'd live the great and if you had lived them,
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  Speaker 3: they would make your memories kind of come afresh again.
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  Speaker 3: But it's also the story of the growth of the
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  Speaker 3: game in the United States. When I moved here, football
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  Speaker 3: was deeply unpopular. You know, the biggest games in the
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  Speaker 3: world were not shown live on American television. Now I
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  Speaker 3: believe there's no better place to be a football fan
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  Speaker 3: than the United States. You can watch more live football
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  Speaker 3: on a Premier League weekend in New York City than
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  Speaker 3: you can in Newcastle. You know, there's this young, incredible audience.
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  Speaker 3: You've grown around the game, and so that's probably one
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  Speaker 3: of the greatest themes in the book. I'm so elated
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  Speaker 3: to have witnessed it, to have lived it, and now
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  Speaker 3: it we're speaking on the either the US men's national
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  Speaker 3: team playing a knockout game around a sixteen game, and
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  Speaker 3: it's complicated. It's complicated time in the world. But I
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  Speaker 3: will say watching the United States when this team does well,
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  Speaker 3: watching the scenes postgame, from sea to Shining Sea, from
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  Speaker 3: you do you see thousands of people in San Jose,
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  Speaker 3: thousands of people in in Kansas City, thousands of people
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  Speaker 3: in in New York City understanding the simple pleasure of football,
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  Speaker 3: which is to stand with strangers and throw your beers
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  Speaker 3: in the air and just get soaked and just savor
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  Speaker 3: every single second.
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  Speaker 4: It's beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: Roger, you mentioned people falling in love with the US
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  Speaker 5: this World Cup. It feels like that has kind of
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  Speaker 5: taken a pause with the flow Balgin reversal of the
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  Speaker 5: red card. What did you make of that decision.
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  Speaker 3: So flu Balagan, I'd say it's fairly unprecedental. It is unprecedented.
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  Speaker 3: It's a shock. When I first found out about it,
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of manufactured and internet meme.
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  Speaker 3: It has never happened since nineteen sixty two is the
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  Speaker 3: only example where the Brazilian government put pressure on the
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  Speaker 3: organization FIFA two to have one of their players who'd
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  Speaker 3: been dismissed in a semi final, allowing to play in
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  Speaker 3: a final. So this is not normal. It's complicated. Everything's
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  Speaker 3: complicated in our day and age. When sports fuses with politics,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it just becomes deeply, deeply fraught and you
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  Speaker 3: can separate it out. You're asking me as an American fan,
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  Speaker 3: and I am for your listeners who don't know me.
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  Speaker 3: I adore the United States, you know, with the passion
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  Speaker 3: that Bruce Springsteen adores the United States. So I ride
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  Speaker 3: with that team when they play England. I support the
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  Speaker 3: United States of America. I am all in or those
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  Speaker 3: giants and I root for them with all my heart.
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  Speaker 3: American fan in me and many American fans are like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: this is our you know, this is our man, this
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  Speaker 3: is our guy, he's our goal scorer. It's great that
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  Speaker 3: he's back. Should go further and say, was it just
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  Speaker 3: sending off? It probably wasn't. If it was quite a
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  Speaker 3: crazy decision, that doesn't mean what's happened the outcome is good.
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  Speaker 3: The process is unprecedented. Having a you know, the leader
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  Speaker 3: of a state call FIFA and the man that the
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  Speaker 3: player be allowed to play. It creates a precedent that
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  Speaker 3: is almost impossible to ignore what happens when I mean
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  Speaker 3: England last night had a player sent off in Mexico
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  Speaker 3: in a valiant performance. Because England are between prime ministers,
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  Speaker 3: are they now f do they now have nobody to
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  Speaker 3: make the call, you know, to make.
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  Speaker 4: The threat to do the thing.
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  Speaker 3: It creates a sense of and this is you know
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  Speaker 3: in America that I say, half the fans are related.
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  Speaker 3: Half the fans are like not like this, not like this.
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  Speaker 3: We could have been we could have been Belgium. I
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  Speaker 3: agree with them. Man, this is a great team. We
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  Speaker 3: are a great team. For the first time in my lifetime.
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  Speaker 3: We can play swaggy football. You know, you world enough
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  Speaker 3: to remember, like and one mixtape tour. It's like the
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  Speaker 3: Professor is playing at times when the United States have
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  Speaker 3: been playing nutmegs swag buccaneering football, cut from our dreams.
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  Speaker 3: We could have done Belgium tonight. So that's how I feel,
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  Speaker 3: really like.
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  Speaker 2: This without you're saying, yeah, we could have done it.
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  Speaker 4: Man, these boys could have done this. This is an
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  Speaker 4: old team.
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  Speaker 3: It's an aging team that like the New York Knicks
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  Speaker 3: under Patrick Ewing in the final seasons, Mace John Starks,
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  Speaker 3: you know they were.
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  Speaker 4: Meant to win it. They never did win it.
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  Speaker 3: They're coming together to commit one more crime, but they're
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  Speaker 3: not going to be able to pull it off. Our
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  Speaker 3: boys are young, hungry, too athletic.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to outrun them.
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  Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter now because in the eyes of
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  Speaker 3: the world there will be an asterisk against it, like
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  Speaker 3: this is not how it's done. Heads of state don't
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  Speaker 3: call in to make these things happen. So there's a
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  Speaker 3: certain sadness. But the wonderful thing about sports, guys, is
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  Speaker 3: the emotional and the rational. And I do know if
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  Speaker 3: Baligan plays tonight, I'll root for him with all my
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  Speaker 3: heart once that whistle goes, and will root for him
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  Speaker 3: with all of my heart. And that's kind of where
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  Speaker 3: we are. There is that cognitive dissonance. So that's how
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  Speaker 3: I feel. It is deeply, deeply complicated. It's deeply, deeply unprecedented.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, simply put, you could make the case
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  Speaker 3: it's right outcome, but the process, it's just it's not
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  Speaker 3: the right process. And the agony is we didn't need it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So Roger, there's you know, I would say half
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  Speaker 1: of the American fan base is saying, hey, FIFA is
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  Speaker 1: always corrupt, it's about time they're being corrupt on our behalf.
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  Speaker 1: And then the other ones are thinking along the lines
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  Speaker 1: like me, who are thinking the way you're thinking. I think,
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  Speaker 1: which is, hey, let's do this the right way. If
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna win it, if we're going to advance, let's
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  Speaker 1: do it the right way. This is unprecedented, It's never
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  Speaker 1: happened before.
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  Speaker 2: I'm torn on it. I have to be honest with you, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, I mean I could have done. We could
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  Speaker 3: have done, we could have done. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's fascinating, also an amazing time. Look, we're traveling across
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  Speaker 3: the nation and men in blazers on a bus. The
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  Speaker 3: spirit of John Madden is written large with us. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we're doing these college game days, broadcasting out to the nation,
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  Speaker 3: you know, from these cities. We're in Atlanta right now
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  Speaker 3: before Lionel Messi plays tomorrow. We're going to do a
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  Speaker 3: live show with Killer Mike tonight. So it's a wild
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  Speaker 3: time to be alive. And there's just a surging new
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  Speaker 3: audience finding football. It's beautiful. Every single World Cup has
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  Speaker 3: left a bigger and bigger audience. Like Flotsam and Jepson
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  Speaker 3: on the beach. That audience is now massive, but it
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  Speaker 3: is a new audience. It's crazy to him, it's beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: Like there are people, many people who did not know
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  Speaker 3: the name following Baligan three weeks ago, who are now they're.
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  Speaker 4: WhatsApp sports chats are just like.
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  Speaker 3: We must have this man. We are doomed without him.
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  Speaker 3: We must by all means necessary. And I think part
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  Speaker 3: of me thinks that's beautiful, man, And part of me
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  Speaker 3: thinks it's deeply deeply through and complicated, but it is
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  Speaker 3: what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: The whistle will go, the US will play, the world
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  Speaker 3: will judge, and you know, ultimately, the frustrating thing for
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  Speaker 3: me is we could have done them. Irrespective of this,
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  Speaker 3: we really really could have done them.
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  Speaker 5: Roger And the lead up to this, I was trying
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  Speaker 5: to get the guys excited about the World Cup and
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  Speaker 5: Team USA, and I was telling them the Golden Generation
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  Speaker 5: flow Balgain, and they just kept saying, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not listening. We need to see it happen. And then
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  Speaker 5: they see flow Balgin play and they were like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you were right. Flow Balgan's the difference is Flowbalgin the
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  Speaker 5: best number nine that this USA team has ever had.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's the best, most productive, pure number nine
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  Speaker 3: that we've not had. The history of men's football in
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  Speaker 3: World Cups in our nation is we'd love a dream team.
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  Speaker 3: This has been a dream on team for far too long.
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  Speaker 3: It is crazy to me that we who you know,
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  Speaker 3: we put a man in the moon, we invented animal
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  Speaker 3: style in and out burgers. We can put our mind
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  Speaker 3: to anything in the United States. Look at the world
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  Speaker 3: right now driving across America being like, oh my god, BUCkies,
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  Speaker 3: it's amazing. We did all that stuff. And one of
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  Speaker 3: the few things we can't do is produce a men's
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  Speaker 3: team that can make any noise.
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  Speaker 4: A World Cup.
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  Speaker 3: Men's World Cups crazy, our women kick ass and take names.
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  Speaker 3: So it has been deeply frustrating. It's been a history
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  Speaker 3: of big dreams and shattered dreams, and so this is
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  Speaker 3: the most talented man for man, a group of individuals
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  Speaker 3: that we've been able to call upon.
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  Speaker 4: And the question is.
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  Speaker 3: Always what do they what culture do they forge when
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  Speaker 3: they come together? And the journeys at World Cups have
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  Speaker 3: been all too fleeting. We've had one knockout win in
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  Speaker 3: previous World Cups, our whole nation, three hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 3: million people. It's crazy, you know, we just had one
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  Speaker 3: knockout win. But they've created an extra round. So it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of like it's it's kind of you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: it's it's a nice thing. Tonight's game is massive, Like
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  Speaker 3: to get into a quarterfinal for the second time in
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  Speaker 3: our nation's history is to really make noise and weave
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  Speaker 3: yourself into the tapestry of the tournament.
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  Speaker 1: Roger tell people about Belgium, Are they good enough to
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  Speaker 1: beat us?
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  Speaker 3: Belgium are waffle inventors, They're waffle pedalers, their waffle merchants.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this team had a golden generation of their
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  Speaker 3: own that they beat us in twenty fourteen. Many of
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  Speaker 3: you fans may dimly vaguely remember Tim Howard making save
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  Speaker 3: after save after save in a valiant game which is
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  Speaker 3: ultimately led to defeat in Brazil in twenty fourteen. Incredibly
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  Speaker 3: for the stars on that team, still playing on this team.
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  Speaker 3: It's a bunch of unks at this point, incredibly talented unks,
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  Speaker 3: youunks who have underwhelmed and then just created magic in
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  Speaker 3: moments when they needed. The World Cup, though, is a
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  Speaker 3: crazy tournament. It is a tournament of moments, so they're
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  Speaker 3: not to be underestimated. But the US have this athleticism,
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  Speaker 3: the US have youth. The US have not traveled very much.
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  Speaker 3: We've not played in heat, we've played indoors in so far.
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  Speaker 3: We've played in Seattle where it's beautiful. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: our miles, our dormito is pretty bloody good. It's why
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  Speaker 3: ultimately going toe to tote and I we should win
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  Speaker 3: this game. They are very beautible, they're vulnerable. Just don't
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  Speaker 3: know how pissed off they're going to be with all
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  Speaker 3: of this madness. Man talk about locker, locker room motivation,
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  Speaker 3: whatever you know, locker room, bulletin board material. We've given
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  Speaker 3: them a little bit in the past twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 3: So I'd say that's the one intangible that makes me
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  Speaker 3: mildly quake.
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  Speaker 1: We seem spoiled and a titled we do I mean, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, mike Y.
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  Speaker 6: Roger. I'm one of the one of the Johnny come
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  Speaker 6: Lately is to this American team like most of and
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  Speaker 6: like most of us, I've now watched the game twice
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  Speaker 6: and I want to change all the rules. So let
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  Speaker 6: me ask you this, as you gave us your bona
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  Speaker 6: fides for this American team, take Me Home, Country Roads.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a good song for us to have here?
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  Speaker 6: Or is this kind of like too specific?
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  Speaker 4: Wolf?
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  Speaker 3: In what way is Country Raid too specific?
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  Speaker 4: West Virginia?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, America has never been to West Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: So they've got a beautiful romantic notion of it. Then
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  Speaker 3: don't they don't desjoy the romantic notion of West Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's beautiful. I will say, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: a game the other day. At the end of the game,
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  Speaker 3: every every team has chosen a song os this Country Road.
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  Speaker 3: England has chosen Wonderwall by Oasis, and it's incredible or
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  Speaker 3: to at the end of the game they beat Congo
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  Speaker 3: in Atlanta and at the end, the team walk up
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  Speaker 3: to their hardcore fans, human beings who love the taste
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  Speaker 3: of their own blood in their mouth. You know they've
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  Speaker 3: seen things, these men, they've been to battles, you know
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  Speaker 3: in the old hooligan days, and the team huddle up,
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  Speaker 3: they've won their you know, they're victorious.
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  Speaker 4: And then on comes Nolan Liam and everyone starts sobbing.
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  Speaker 3: It's really quite amazing and growing men and women just
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  Speaker 3: absolutely sobbing in these moments. So Country Road number one.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think anyone listens to lyrics anymore, which is
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  Speaker 3: why you know Creden's clear Water Revival, Fortunate Sun and
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  Speaker 3: Bruce Springsteen's Born in the USA are used at political
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  Speaker 3: rallies still because no one's listening to the bloody lyrics.
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  Speaker 3: And Country Road I think it's a deeply all encompassing song.
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  Speaker 3: I think the fact that all our players know the words,
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  Speaker 3: and our players are so diverse, they're so eclectic that
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  Speaker 3: from everywhere is very beautiful, and you just want a song,
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  Speaker 3: and the song becomes if you win games, that song
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  Speaker 3: becomes louder and prouder, and it feels more right with
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  Speaker 3: every telling. I just hope we get to hear it
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  Speaker 3: a couple more times this World Cup.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get you out of here in a second, just
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  Speaker 2: two quick ones. Was Mexico England The best game you've
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: ever seen?
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Was Mexico England? The best game I've ever seen. It
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: was the best game I've seen last night.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: It's the best game.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: It's the best game I've seen since Argentina cap Go.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Was that twenty four hours earlier? It feels like it
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: was four years ago. This World Cup is amazing. That's
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: what's been so great. Yes, this is the stakes for
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: this moment. Man, it's been amazing. Watching the world fall
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: in love with America and America fall in love with
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: global football has been the joy of my lifetime. This
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: World Cup has been It's surpassed my expectations, my highest hopes.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: It's been delirious. And as part of that, and only
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: part of it. The football has been ecstatic. You're watching
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Lionel Messi, that tiny little e what amongst us as
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: a demi god. By the way, if this was old days,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: we will be worshiping him as a as a leader
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: of a evangelical cult. And I'd be all in on it, man,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: And I'm not a very religious man. Earl In Harlan
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: would be. You know, he is a Viking come alive
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: in our day and age.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: It's quite majestic. What was see?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: These are not normal sporting feats. Killian and Bappe. That
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: speed merchant. I mean, well, who's the guy is at
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: the Braves game? The Flash who runs around the track.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: It's like the Flash has got another skill other than
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: just speed.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: He can kick the football.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: England have a god, Harry Kane, He's just guy off
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: a spitfire. It's still warm.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: It's the Battle of Britain.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: She's deciding to deliver goals to go into the Azteca.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: This fortress, this vaunted fortress where there's only one truth,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: which is Mexico. Do not lose and deliver a tenacious
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: beatdown was exquisite. I don't support England. I'm objective when
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I watch them, But it was very, very very profound
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: on a human level. And the on this sad truth
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: is they will be so gast now they left their
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: you know, they left their.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Souls on that football field. They've got to go to Miami.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: They'll play Norway, and I think they're just going to
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: fling their dead caucases on the field and see how.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Minutes Roger last question of the remaining teams here in
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the World Cup, which team winning it would surprise you
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the most.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Of the remaining teams. Which team can answer that? In
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: many ways, Argentina because it's so hard to go back
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: to back in this tournament. I think the NHL is
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: at the hardest.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Sports interested it. But yeah, it's pretty tough.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there you go. In that case, Argentina may
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: do it. I think England will probably be my proper answer.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm American now, I ride fully with the
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: wearers of stonewashed him. But England, all I know is
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: England dreaming, England believing, England, falling in love with its team,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: and then its team turning round in just shattering a
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: nation's hearts. So just because of that pattern, which is
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: so well defined, we have John Oliver come on our
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: show and we were laughing that England a light, Charlie
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Brown running out of football with Lucy holding you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: just again and again and again. But you know, John said,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: what if we've got that all wrong. What if Charlie
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: likes the pain? What if Charlie likes the humiliation. What
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: if Charlie loves just that feeling of devastation. And it's
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: actually him saying, Lucy, let's do that thing that we
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: do where I pretend to kick it and you yank
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: it away and I fall on my ass. That's what
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: the English football team did. It's almost like the fan
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: base love that shattering feeling of their hearts breaking in
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: real time. So that would probably be the one that
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: surprised me. It would thrill me mostly from my family,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: you know over there in Liverpool, who deserve a little
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: bit of love and a little bit of joy but
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: it won't happen. And what throws me the most is
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: that you're all falling in love, you're all going on
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: your own individual in these you'll find in your own memories,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: especially Big mikey a who's just just loving every single
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: second and making memories, which is the best thing. It's
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: lovely to be with you. You are a legend. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: think you know that you're an icon. You're a wonderful
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: human being. It's a joy for me to be with you.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Big Stu Gottson, huge, huge love to you. Thank you
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: so much for having me on.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: All right, buddy, thank you for the kind words. We
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Check them out, Men and Blazers. His most
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: recent book is out. Also, we are the.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: World Cup in parentheses. He's more surprised.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: He's going to be more surprised if England wins it
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: than he is the United States.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: He's a homer and I love him. Roger Bennett, thank
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: you for doing this during a very busy time for.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: You, America. Courage guys, Bye guys, big big love. Thank
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: you for having me on.