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Full Show Podcast: 20 January 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Andrew Dickens, on
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Speaker 1: earlier this show with one roof Love where you live
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Speaker 1: News Talk, said.
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Speaker 2: Be Hey, good morning to you and welcome to the program,
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Speaker 2: and thank you so much for choosing us and coming
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Speaker 2: up over the next hour. We still don't have enough
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Speaker 2: teachers for another academic year, so what can we do
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Speaker 2: about that. We'll talk about this in five minutes time.
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Speaker 2: With the price of chocolate going through the roof, can
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Speaker 2: we now start making it in the lab? The Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister said it with his own mouth. Changes are coming
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Speaker 2: to super so what is going to happen next? We'll
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Speaker 2: have correspondence from around the world, also around New Zealand
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Speaker 2: and news as it breaks, and you can have your
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Speaker 2: say by sending me a text and the number two
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Speaker 2: text two ninety two to ninety two, said BB said
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Speaker 2: b A small charge applies.
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Speaker 1: The agenda.
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Speaker 2: So it's Tuesday, the twentieth of January. We've got tragedy
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Speaker 2: on the rails of Spain. At least thirty dome people
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Speaker 2: are dead after a high speed train derailed and collided
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Speaker 2: into an oncoming service. The Madrid bound train jump tracks
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Speaker 2: near Adamus, with the worst damage happening to the front.
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Speaker 3: The impact was like a sudden blow. The light went out.
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Speaker 3: I was sitting in the last seats of the carriage
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Speaker 3: and I was thrown around. I don't know how many
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Speaker 3: times I rolled over. I don't know how I hit
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Speaker 3: my back. There were people screaming. All the suitcases fell
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Speaker 3: on top of people's heads.
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Speaker 2: Horrific and Spain is in morning now for three days
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Speaker 2: and Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez says, a full investigation is
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Speaker 2: underwhere we're going.
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Speaker 4: To find out the truth. We're going to find down
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Speaker 4: the answer of the origin of the cause of this
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Speaker 4: charge of dinner, and we're going to be absolutely transparent
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Speaker 4: and we're going to be so clear, and we're going
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Speaker 4: to cherry with the citizens.
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Speaker 2: Of Spain now to Greenland, and once again the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister of this is they will not be pressured by
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's tariffs, and Sekia Stama from the UK schlimbed
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Speaker 2: in again.
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Speaker 5: Alliances endure because they're built on respect and partsure, not pressure.
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Speaker 5: That is why I said the use of tariffs against
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Speaker 5: allies is completely wrong. It is not the right way
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Speaker 5: to resolve differences within an alliance.
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Speaker 2: By the way Donald Trump has has been asked would
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Speaker 2: you seize would you seize green Land by forced? And
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Speaker 2: his comment is no comment. We wait. Meanwhile, into the UK,
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Speaker 2: Prince Harry's arrived in a London court group alongside other
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Speaker 2: big names like Elton, John Ashary. They're taking on the
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Speaker 2: Daily Mails publisher. They're accusing it of unlawful data gathering
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Speaker 2: using private investigators and people they call blaggers.
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Speaker 6: He will feel justified if he wins on some of
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Speaker 6: the counts, but I do think that he probably will
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Speaker 6: draw a line under it whatever happens after this case.
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Speaker 6: Because he's trying to reconcile with his own family. It's
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Speaker 6: slightly awkward for them because they're dealing on a day
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Speaker 6: to day basis with The Mail and other newspapers that
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Speaker 6: he's accused of wrongdoing.
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Speaker 2: And that's the agenda. It's nine minutes after.
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Speaker 1: Five News and Views you trust to start your day.
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Speaker 1: It's earlier Ship with Andrew Dickins and one roof Love
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Speaker 1: where you live news talks.
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Speaker 2: That'd be so. How about Graham Garnette. He's the tramper
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Speaker 2: who took a wrong turn and then went missing in
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Speaker 2: the Kahrangi National Park and wasn't found for three weeks,
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Speaker 2: even as his family gave him up for dead. But
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Speaker 2: two days ago he was found at the Venus Hut
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Speaker 2: by doc contractors who were there just to do some signage.
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Speaker 2: So what happened to Graham? Well, after getting lost, Graham
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Speaker 2: sought to rescue himself. He kept moving rather than staying
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Speaker 2: in one place. That helped him stay warm, find water sources,
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Speaker 2: and eventually he reached a known landmark. A bitally, he
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Speaker 2: got hurt a lot and moving around, but he kept going.
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Speaker 2: He followed streams and ridgelines and other natural features classic
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Speaker 2: survival navigation techniques. Eventually he found the Kadamea River. He
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Speaker 2: recognized it and he followed it and it led him
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Speaker 2: back towards the Venus Hut, where he took some shelter
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Speaker 2: and then he was found. How good is this? Now?
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Speaker 2: They don't know what he ate to keep himself alive,
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Speaker 2: and I'm not sure I want to know. But here's
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Speaker 2: the thing about Graham Garnett. He is an old fashioned
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Speaker 2: bushman and that saved him. But perhaps it all could
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Speaker 2: have been a bit easier if he had a personal
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Speaker 2: locator beacon. Okay, sure I know this isn't Victim Waring
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Speaker 2: but look, a personal locator beacon costs about seven hundred bucks.
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Speaker 2: But what would you rather do? Spend that money or
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Speaker 2: spend three weeks in the bush eating roots? Send me Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: Trevis sent me a text which I find interesting. Ask Andrew,
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Speaker 2: did you hear that the people rescued in the way
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Speaker 2: a Wicker Gorge in the weekend had to pay the
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Speaker 2: helicopter company doing the rescuing three hundred and seventy five
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Speaker 2: dollars each out of their own pockets for being rescued.
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Speaker 2: And Trevor would like me to ask some questions about
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Speaker 2: the NZDTA about all this sort of thing. What do
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Speaker 2: you think about that getting charge for your own rescue?
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Speaker 2: I know overseas that happens all the time. Should it
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Speaker 2: happen in New Zealand?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 2: We have a new academic year starting and guess what,
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Speaker 2: we don't have enough teachers. So we're going to talk
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Speaker 2: to the secondary Principal's council chair about what they're doing,
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Speaker 2: what they have done, and what they're going to do.
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Speaker 2: This is News Talks at.
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Speaker 1: Be the News you need this morning and the in
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Speaker 1: depth Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dicketts and One Root Love,
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Speaker 1: where you Live News Talks that'd be Y's.
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Speaker 2: Well, good morning to you. It's how fourteen minutes after five,
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Speaker 2: and we've got new data OUTE this morning showing that
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Speaker 2: teacher shortages are getting worse as kids prepare to go
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Speaker 2: back to the classroom. Four hundred and forty five roles
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Speaker 2: are currently vacant nationwide. That is up twelve percent on
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Speaker 2: last year. Three quarters of those gaps are in the
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Speaker 2: North Island and one hundred and twenty five of them
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Speaker 2: are in Auckland alone. So Secondary Principal's council chair is
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Speaker 2: Steve mccrekan, and Steve joins me. Now, good morning to.
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Speaker 7: You, sir, Good morning Andrew.
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Speaker 2: Why is it still bad?
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Speaker 7: Wow, it's a very good question issue. I think teaching
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Speaker 7: is a wonderful profession obviously, However, I don't think that's
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Speaker 7: probably perceived by the public. And there's a whole range
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Speaker 7: of things going on and the teaching and education set
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Speaker 7: to it, yet there's possibly not that enticing at this
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Speaker 7: point in time. But yeah, with these vacancies, we make
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Speaker 7: sure that things happen and that kids get the best
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Speaker 7: possible education they can.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have an aging and growing population. We are
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Speaker 2: losing teachers to retirement. We need a new generation. Are
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Speaker 2: they coming?
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Speaker 7: I think there's definite work in the pipeline and the
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Speaker 7: tournaments are very active in the initial teacher education sector
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Speaker 7: and it's probably still just a couple of years away though.
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Speaker 2: Andrew, all right, why is the North Island so hard hit?
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Speaker 7: Well, there's probably a couple of things there, I think.
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Speaker 7: I think it's obviously population there, but also it's an
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Speaker 7: interesting demographic and particularly in the Auckland sector, where there's
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Speaker 7: some really challenging situations in schools and in education right now.
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Speaker 7: Like what, Well, it's a range of things and if
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Speaker 7: you look at socioeconomic barriers and yeah, colleagues in the
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Speaker 7: South Auckland yet they have different challenges to those in
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Speaker 7: other areas of Auckland and other areas of the country.
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Speaker 2: So teachers don't want to go to South Auckland.
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Speaker 7: No, that's not the case at all. There's some amazing
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Speaker 7: teachers in all parts of our country. But I think
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Speaker 7: there's different challenges in each sector as well.
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Speaker 2: Are they particular subjects that are worth hit?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, by the looks of the data, it looks like
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Speaker 7: maths and physics continue to remain a challenging area. But
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Speaker 7: I think that that's living a spread across nearly every
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Speaker 7: subject that we've experienced.
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Speaker 2: How is schools going to cope this year?
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Speaker 8: Then?
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Speaker 7: Look, schools are marketable places. Is everyone on the radio understands,
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Speaker 7: and those and teachers and school leaders across the country
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Speaker 7: make things work and putting extra resource where possible and
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Speaker 7: pulling managed responsibilities away just to enable teachers to be
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Speaker 7: in front of learners as the best possible outcome, and
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Speaker 7: school leaders and that will be working right now to
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Speaker 7: make sure that things happen for their kids and there
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Speaker 7: arrive at school come day one.
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Speaker 2: If they make it work. Should we be worried?
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Speaker 8: Still? Oh?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, because that means that there are other things that
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Speaker 7: aren't happening. And this year, I'm sure that you're aware
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Speaker 7: that there's large curriculum reform and things that needs to happen,
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Speaker 7: and make sure that to make sure that that happens,
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Speaker 7: we need to have the best possible people in front
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Speaker 7: of our kids in front of our school.
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Speaker 2: It's changing the curriculum and changing it in CEA making
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Speaker 2: this worse.
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Speaker 7: I think it's happening an impact and there's an additional
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Speaker 7: teacher workload and pressure on there in the long line,
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Speaker 7: it's probably going to be a better outcome for our
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Speaker 7: young people. However, there's a put a short term pain
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Speaker 7: we need to get through in the interim.
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Speaker 2: Steve, thanks for waking up early for me. Steve mcrackett
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Speaker 2: Secondary Principles Council Chair the Education But it's Erica Stamford
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Speaker 2: will be joining Mike just after the seven o'clock news today.
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Speaker 2: It's the story that happens year after year after year.
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Speaker 2: Have you tried to buy some chocolate lately? Oh my
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Speaker 2: goodness me, you need to go and see the bank
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Speaker 2: manager first. It's so expensive. And the reason it's expensive
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Speaker 2: is the kakal being has gone through the roof. So
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Speaker 2: some bright smarts got the idea that we can actually
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Speaker 2: make chocolate in the lab. So how do you do that?
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Speaker 2: And is this the relief for the chocolate lovers who
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Speaker 2: are starting to get withdrawal symptoms? That story is next
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Speaker 2: is eighteen after five.
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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early
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Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickins and One roof Love where You
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Speaker 1: Live News Talk said been.
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Speaker 2: Did you think Steve McCracken was waffling? Simon does? He says?
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Speaker 2: The teacher is talking waffle can't even answer the question
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Speaker 2: as to why teachers are short in Auckland. Simon's theory
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Speaker 2: is that it's because the union suppress wages by adhering
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Speaker 2: to collectivism. A lot of people are also talking about
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Speaker 2: the kids with no discipline and it's just not a
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Speaker 2: nice job. But yeah, I thought there was no real
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Speaker 2: answer to anything there, But there we go. Consistently rising
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Speaker 2: prices of the cacal bean is making chocolate tears look
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Speaker 2: for cheaper alternatives. So a new study shows the price
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Speaker 2: of cacao, the key ingredient and everyone's favorite sweet treat,
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Speaker 2: are now double what they were in twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 2: So the confectory giants like Hirst He's in Cabri are
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Speaker 2: researching lab growing and genetically modified versions of the plant
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Speaker 2: to make our chocolate. So Mike Renfree, as a man
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Speaker 2: who knows and loves his chocolate, he's the head chocolate
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Speaker 2: maker regular Chocolate. It joins me. Now, hallo, Mike, what
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Speaker 2: a hell of a job you've got.
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Speaker 9: It's a pretty good job.
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Speaker 2: Actually, I bet how expensive is coco right now? Yeah?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely right. It is double what it was back
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Speaker 9: in twenty twenty three. But that's really the you know,
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Speaker 9: that's the commodity price. The real world for most of
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Speaker 9: us is different. It's only the big multinationals that are
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Speaker 9: really directly linked to that commodity price.
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Speaker 2: Your prices go up, but will they go down?
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Speaker 9: They are down now, yep. I think we're talking about
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Speaker 9: two thousand and two dollars a kilo back in twenty
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Speaker 9: three and I've come back to about they went up
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Speaker 9: to say twelve dollars a kilo, and back a year
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Speaker 9: twenty four five, and then back to about five dollars
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Speaker 9: a killer. I think now, so that's that's that's what's happened.
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Speaker 9: It's come back. But there's a real lag in the
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Speaker 9: system between you know, those buying and buying the commodity
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Speaker 9: and those actually putting product on the shelf. And I
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Speaker 9: think there's a bit of a belief that those those
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Speaker 9: big guys, you know, Montalez who's cap were in that
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Speaker 9: they will probably want to maintain that high price in
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Speaker 9: the retail for as long as they can.
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Speaker 2: So maybe the maybe maybe the crisis is over, or
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Speaker 2: maybe the crisis is just normal market fluctuations. But here
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Speaker 2: they are they're talking about lab grown beans, Frankenstein beans
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Speaker 2: or something like that. What do you think about the
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Speaker 2: idea of lab grown beans and will the will the
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Speaker 2: market accept them.
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Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not sure. I don't actually think there's
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Speaker 9: a need for it. I think the supply situation is exaggerated.
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Speaker 9: Where the blame is put. It's it's put, you know,
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Speaker 9: simple supply chain, supply and demand, but demands growing and
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Speaker 9: the supply has been poor. The reality is that the
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Speaker 9: supply has been extremely affected by weather in the last
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Speaker 9: several seasons, so that the great big warehouses of beans
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Speaker 9: in West Africa, which is the greatest supply base, and
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Speaker 9: the warehouses in Europe and so forth with supplying these
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Speaker 9: big multinationals have been depleted. So they've been reluctant to
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Speaker 9: buy those highest pride prices, but eventually they have to
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Speaker 9: buy to meet their market commitments, driving that price extremely high.
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Speaker 9: We're a little isolated as a specialty chocolate maker. Our
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Speaker 9: prices were never anywhere as low as those commodity prices,
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Speaker 9: and now they're not as high as those commodity prices were,
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Speaker 9: so we're buffeted to some degree, a little bit separate.
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Speaker 2: And I'm picking that Reaguling chocolate is a maker of
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Speaker 2: very fine, high end chocolates, would never use lab grown
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Speaker 2: beans just for the look.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, yeah, no, It's one of the few ways that
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Speaker 9: we can differentiate ourselves from those. Of course, of course,
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Speaker 9: good guys.
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Speaker 2: Mike, Mike, thank you and enjoy your marvelous stay at work.
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Speaker 2: He David says, good morning. Lab chocolate will be as
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Speaker 2: successful as lab grown meat. Fair call markets go up
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Speaker 2: and Marcus go down and people forget about it. It
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Speaker 2: is five twenty four.
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Speaker 1: It's News Talks ITB the early edition full show podcast
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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, how it by News.
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Speaker 2: Talks It Be News Talks it B five twenty six.
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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens. So election year is often running with
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Speaker 2: Christopher Laxon's State of the Nation address yesterday, where he
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Speaker 2: declared the recovery has arrived. We should know the election
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Speaker 2: date later this week. What we do know is the
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Speaker 2: theme of National's campaign. He was telling everybody yesterday. He
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Speaker 2: told Mike, it's fixing the basics and building the future,
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Speaker 2: which is not a shock. It's just a variation of
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Speaker 2: the way they've positioned themselves for a while. They are
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Speaker 2: the party that concentrates on the need to haves, not
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Speaker 2: the knights to haves. They're the party that says that
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Speaker 2: Labour trashed the economy in six years with their spending.
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Speaker 2: They're the party that has said all wrong, we're the
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Speaker 2: guys who'll fix it up. But the real question is
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Speaker 2: what are they fixing and what are they building? So
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Speaker 2: Treasury's figures from the half Yearly Economic and Fiscal Update
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Speaker 2: delivered just before Christmas showed that the government has both
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Speaker 2: cut capital expenditures since its election and lowered forecast for
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Speaker 2: new spending. So capex fell by six billion dollars between
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Speaker 2: the twenty three, twenty four and twenty four to twenty
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Speaker 2: five years, and spending was one point six billion dollars
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Speaker 2: less in twenty four to twenty five than was budgeted.
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Speaker 2: So that's not a lot of fixing of leaky hospitals
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Speaker 2: and rickety courtrooms going on. That's a lot of cutting
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Speaker 2: of spending. And yet despite that, their spending has gone up,
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Speaker 2: and we know that from their borrowing. And that's because
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Speaker 2: the big ticket items like benefits and pensions keep going up,
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Speaker 2: and so have the costs and services like education and health.
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Speaker 2: So what can you fix and what can you build?
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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of invigorating news in the near future.
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Speaker 2: It seems as though our fundamentals room will remain basically unchanged.
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Speaker 2: The great hope for all of us is that the
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Speaker 2: private sector just gets on with it, understanding the limits
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Speaker 2: to our capacity, and we get back to what I
15:21
Speaker 2: would say is the unofficial slogan, which is we are
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Speaker 2: the national party. Vote for us. We're not as bad
15:27
Speaker 2: as the other lot.
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Speaker 10: What z be?
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Speaker 2: It's all about tennis at the moment. My partner's in
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Speaker 2: Australia visiting my son, and so if you're in Melbourne,
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Speaker 2: what do you do? You go to the tennis. She says.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing and the crowds are huge. The crowds were
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Speaker 2: huge in Auckland, New Zealand as well. The ASP Classic
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Speaker 2: had a record year in terms of second sales. Twenty
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Speaker 2: out of the twenty two sessions were sold out. We
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Speaker 2: love our tennis and that is the good news. The
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Speaker 2: bad news is that the much needed roof will not
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Speaker 2: be in place until twenty two eight. And we saw
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Speaker 2: how the rain disrupted us this year and I thought, well,
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Speaker 2: hopefully next year it'll be sweet. But no. Now, when
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Speaker 2: asked about all of this, they say they're blaming resource
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Speaker 2: consent delays and getting the spades turning over the earth. Now,
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Speaker 2: if ever there was something that needed fast tracking, it's
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Speaker 2: that roof, asked the soaked patrons. Now Mike is talking
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Speaker 2: about this after seven o'clock this morning with the guys
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Speaker 2: from the ASP Classic and from the Tennis Center about
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Speaker 2: when is this roof happening? So still to come. Oh,
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Speaker 2: I've got a really good story about Canada and some
16:34
Speaker 2: smart stuff. The really scary thing about for people of
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Speaker 2: a certain age about Christopher Luxon's thing yesterday is he
16:41
Speaker 2: really made concrete the idea that changes have got to
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Speaker 2: come to national super So what sort of changes are
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Speaker 2: will there be, how will they affect you, when are
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Speaker 2: they going to come in, and what should we be
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Speaker 2: doing right now? Particularly if you're a younger person, you've
16:53
Speaker 2: got to realize maybe the states are going to be
16:55
Speaker 2: there the way it has before for older people, maybe
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Speaker 2: it's time to make things into your own hands. So
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Speaker 2: we are going to be talking to a retirement and
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Speaker 2: superannuation expert about this just before the news at six am,
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Speaker 2: and the news is next here on an early edition
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Speaker 2: on News Talks, he be.
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Speaker 1: Me get ahead of the headlines on early edition with
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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof love. Where you live, news
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Speaker 1: talk shit been.
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Speaker 11: I don't need a came over to con mo, I'll remember.
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Speaker 2: How Hey, good morning to you, welcome to the program,
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Speaker 2: Welcome to you Tuesday. I'm sorry, Northern, the whole heap
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Speaker 2: more rain is coming your way as well, after a
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Speaker 2: whole heap of rain before. This is turning into being
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Speaker 2: a very soggy summer. Don't you think, come yak summer,
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Speaker 2: we miss you. Now here's a mumble and a grumble.
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Speaker 2: It really gets my goat when people rape a natural resource.
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Speaker 2: Some people seem to believe that stuff is unlimited. You
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Speaker 2: can take as much as you like. And the peak
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Speaker 2: of that is the way we treat the sea. So
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Speaker 2: the government is now making moves to stop people stripping
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Speaker 2: rock pools of sea life. In North Auckland on Saturday,
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Speaker 2: more than one hundred pint our residents protested against what
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Speaker 2: they say are bus loads of people who truck up
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Speaker 2: to their rocks and pluck out everything from crabs to
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Speaker 2: sea cucumbers and they take them away. Apparently they're migrants.
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Speaker 2: They are taking food that is not in a traditional
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Speaker 2: key we diet. But hey, they're stripping the sea, so
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Speaker 2: Local EWE is seeking a two year ban on harvesting
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Speaker 2: shellfish to allow the marine life to recover. I believe
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Speaker 2: that Shane Jones is in support of this. You hate
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Speaker 2: hearing about bands, don't you, because they're only necessary when
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Speaker 2: people are selfish and have no common sense, of no
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Speaker 2: common sense or no common decency. But in this case
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Speaker 2: it does seem necessary. The sea is not a limitless larder.
19:02
Speaker 2: It's vulnerable and sea life takes a while to recover
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Speaker 2: and regenerate. So look, in the words of Nashville yesterday,
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Speaker 2: let's fix it and build for the future so that
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Speaker 2: our children and their children can enjoy the wealth of
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Speaker 2: New Zealand seas zib B. It's twenty two to six
19:19
Speaker 2: and we're around the country and first to Calum Proctor
19:21
Speaker 2: and Otaga Callum. Good morning morning, Andrew. So Denda is
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Speaker 2: the first place to switch off the three G.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it gets flicked today, the switch one New Zealand
19:31
Speaker 12: at least anyway, switching it off here first, then the
19:34
Speaker 12: telco will pull the plug progressively. Christ Church will lose
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Speaker 12: three G on March third, Auckland March tenth, and the
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Speaker 12: Capital Wellington March seventeenth. All three of New Zealand's mobile
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Speaker 12: network operators are shuddering their older three G networks to
19:49
Speaker 12: concentrate on the new four G and five G. One
19:52
Speaker 12: says this means fast as speeds, but a coverage, more
19:55
Speaker 12: reliable networks for customers. But they say, look, most people
19:58
Speaker 12: are already now on FOURGE in five cheap at Those
20:01
Speaker 12: who still rely on three G need to upgrade, upgrade
20:05
Speaker 12: from today.
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Speaker 2: Okay, how's day two at work?
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Speaker 13: You?
20:08
Speaker 2: Okay? Getting there? Yeah?
20:10
Speaker 9: Getting there?
20:12
Speaker 2: How's your weather?
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Speaker 12: Mostly cloudy here, chance of the morning shower? Afternoon fine
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Speaker 12: breaks Dunedin's high seventeen today.
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Speaker 2: So to Canterbury we going clear. Sure, we're good morning
20:21
Speaker 2: to you.
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Speaker 11: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: So the Mainlander train is leaving the christ Church Railway station.
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Speaker 2: Now why is this an important thing?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's the first Trimp two in Vikagol today and
20:31
Speaker 10: it's a sellout. The key thing though, is that it's
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Speaker 10: a sign of things to come. All return tickets on
20:36
Speaker 10: this new Mainlander train are sold out ahead of today's journey.
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Speaker 10: Rail and Tourism Group is who's behind it? The chief executive,
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Speaker 10: Paul Jackson says demand as well and truly exceeding expectations.
20:48
Speaker 10: He says, you know, there's a good price point for it,
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Speaker 10: but people are also looking for more viable alternatives to
20:53
Speaker 10: flying or driving around the South. He says, there's a
20:56
Speaker 10: case of there's much more where that came from. The
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Speaker 10: companies also looking to run this event's express train. We've
21:02
Speaker 10: spoken about a fair bit on z B to bring
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Speaker 10: greater christ Church residents into our new stadium. It's also
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Speaker 10: behind a special match day train which is running at
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Speaker 10: passengers down to Timaru for the Crusaders preseason match. He
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Speaker 10: is now promising there's even more event rail services to
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Speaker 10: come and they'll be announced for the South Island very soon.
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Speaker 2: Very good. Of course, everyone loves a new service. Let's
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Speaker 2: see how it lasts. Now, how's we win it? Today?
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Speaker 10: Cloudy with more chance of showers today than clearing to
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Speaker 10: fine by after noon. Easterly is developing at a high
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Speaker 10: eighteen to.
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Speaker 2: Wellington we go, Max Toll, good morning and happy New Year.
21:35
Speaker 2: And to you good morning, lovely to hear your voice. Now,
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Speaker 2: what's happening at Wellington Library?
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Speaker 14: Yeah, our massive central library. It's been closed for a
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Speaker 14: number of years since being deemed a quake risk in
21:46
Speaker 14: twenty nineteen. A lot of money has been spent in
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Speaker 14: the meantime fixing it up to meet requirements base isolators,
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Speaker 14: two hundred and seventeen million dollars worth of work. And yeah,
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Speaker 14: since twenty nineteen we've effectively had no decent library within
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Speaker 14: a stone throw of the central city. Now the library
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Speaker 14: one actually reopened for a couple of months, but what
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Speaker 14: staff are doing at the moment is starting to shift
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Speaker 14: back hundreds of thousands of books three hundred and seventy
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Speaker 14: thousand to be exact, placing them around on shelves. What's
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Speaker 14: a little disappointing is apparently there's eighty thousand fewer books
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Speaker 14: than there were before. Those were mostly just given away
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Speaker 14: because the library had nowhere to put them in the meantime.
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Speaker 14: Apparently the ones they prioritized for keeping were New Zealand books,
22:28
Speaker 14: Wellington authors, Mardi authors and subjects. So perhaps if you
22:32
Speaker 14: were hoping to loan out the Penguin classics or some
22:35
Speaker 14: tall story or Keats, perhaps.
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Speaker 7: You may not be in luck.
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Speaker 14: How's your weather mostly cloudy, southerly's eighteen today's high very good,
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Speaker 14: NIVO RETTYMNU, good morning.
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Speaker 15: Good morning, Andrew.
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Speaker 2: People in Auckland are worried about going on public transport?
22:48
Speaker 15: Yes, yeah, what do you do about this? So there's
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Speaker 15: another push to tighten the safety on public transport. Two
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Speaker 15: advocacy groups of this time they've come out them saying
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Speaker 15: look it's time for New Zealand produced transport police on buses,
23:02
Speaker 15: trains in ferries now. They point to the several serious
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Speaker 15: events in recent months that we have heard about, including
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Speaker 15: the alleged assault of four Auckland train passengers that happened
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Speaker 15: in October. Campaign for Better Transport convener, that's Jody Johnston,
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Speaker 15: he says, has been Look, there's been major infrastructure upgrades
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Speaker 15: across the network and they don't want people feeling unsafe.
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Speaker 15: He says the last thing obviously in the lead up
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Speaker 15: to the City rail Link opening later this year. You know,
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Speaker 15: they want people deciding that they want to take the
23:31
Speaker 15: train exactly.
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Speaker 2: How's the weather okay?
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Speaker 15: Well yeah, pretty bad, heavy rain easing toward evening, though
23:37
Speaker 15: we've got these localized downpours possible north of the Harbor
23:40
Speaker 15: Bridge this morning and strong winds easterly is and exposed
23:42
Speaker 15: places twenty three the high today.
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Speaker 2: Neither I thank you as now seventeen to six. I
23:46
Speaker 2: had a text through put your name on so I
23:48
Speaker 2: can be nice and friendly. But someone says, what happened
23:51
Speaker 2: to the swimmer? The guy who's going from Northland Northway
23:54
Speaker 2: to Wellington for charity. Well, he's not doing it for charity.
23:57
Speaker 2: He's doing it to highlight the protect of the sea
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Speaker 2: that we're not doing, which, considering I was talking about
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Speaker 2: what was happening with the fungal parah rock pools, I
24:06
Speaker 2: think is a very important thing.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: His name is John O Riddler. You can follow his
24:10
Speaker 2: project on Live Ocean. Excuse me, the Live Ocean, and
24:21
Speaker 2: fifteen hours ago he said a weather update and hello
24:23
Speaker 2: from John O. Bad weather and they're assessing it so
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Speaker 2: they've actually stopped. They will restart once it's safe to do.
24:35
Speaker 2: John Oh is obviously crazy, but what a thing to do.
24:39
Speaker 2: It's a thousand miles. Hey, it's seventeen to.
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Speaker 1: Six International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
24:48
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
24:51
Speaker 2: It's now fourteen minutes to six, and we say Happy
24:54
Speaker 2: New Year for the first time to Donna Tomyo out
24:56
Speaker 2: of austraight the hello Donna Oh, Hello to you. See
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Speaker 2: Anthony Alberanesi's popularity is just dropping after his botched handling
25:05
Speaker 2: of the Bondai terror attack. Now we have a special
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Speaker 2: sitting of Parliament to pass new laws.
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Speaker 13: Yes, the politicians have converged on Canberra two weeks early
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Speaker 13: in fact to debate these new laws on hate speech
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Speaker 13: and gun laws. And it is a special parliamentary sitting
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Speaker 13: to respond to the Bondai terror attack. Now, Anthony Albaniz
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Speaker 13: he's pushing forward to try to toughen hate laws. But
25:26
Speaker 13: at that weekend he did have to abandon his plans
25:28
Speaker 13: to criminalize the promotion of racial hatred. Now that's after
25:32
Speaker 13: both the left and right side of politics criticized that plan.
25:37
Speaker 13: But there are some significant remaining proposals, and that is
25:40
Speaker 13: including a new gun buyback scheme and to attempt to
25:46
Speaker 13: blacklist hate groups and deport migrants who disseminate hate. Now
25:50
Speaker 13: it does look like the gun laws will pass with
25:53
Speaker 13: the help of the Greens. Meanwhile, those proposed hate laws
25:56
Speaker 13: are still seeking the support of the coalition. The Prime
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Speaker 13: Minister has said he he doesn't want division on the
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Speaker 13: floor of the Parliament. He says this is a moment
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Speaker 13: of national importance and he's trying to get agreement on
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Speaker 13: the way forward. So let's see what happens today. Yesterday
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Speaker 13: the sitting was focused on the passage of condolence motions
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Speaker 13: for the victims and we saw several MP's wipe away tears,
26:18
Speaker 13: shed tears as they paid tribute to those victims.
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Speaker 2: Now, shark attack in Sydney.
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Speaker 13: Oh gosh, So a twelve year old boy, well, he
26:29
Speaker 13: was he's critical now actually after a large shark attacked
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Speaker 13: him in Sydney Harbor. And we know that he was
26:35
Speaker 13: jumping off a popular rock ledge near Nielsen Park in
26:39
Speaker 13: Sydney's East. Now it's believed it's a bull shark that
26:42
Speaker 13: was involved. Now we've heard though, according to The Guardian,
26:45
Speaker 13: that it's understood the boy was swimming outside the net
26:48
Speaker 13: enclosure at the time of the attack. Now we've also
26:52
Speaker 13: heard that a surfer in his twenties is also critical.
26:55
Speaker 13: And this happened just last night. There was another shark attack.
26:59
Speaker 13: He's in a serious condition at a place called Manly,
27:01
Speaker 13: which you may be familiar with. His leg was severely
27:05
Speaker 13: bidden and now we know that twenty beaches have been
27:07
Speaker 13: shut in that area until further notice.
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Speaker 2: Oh dear Donald Tomatow out of Australia. Meanwhile, in Wellington,
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Speaker 2: did you see the orcas? Orcers came swimming all around
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Speaker 2: the harbor. They went right into that little basin that's
27:20
Speaker 2: right by downtown and people took the most astounding pictures.
27:23
Speaker 2: And one of the most astounding pictures I saw was
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Speaker 2: the big thin of an orca heading towards the pontoon
27:29
Speaker 2: that's off Oriental Bay. On the pontoon was a whole
27:32
Speaker 2: lot of kids. There was one kid in the water.
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Speaker 2: You've never seen a kid swim for the pontoon as
27:36
Speaker 2: fast as that kid when he realized that an orca
27:38
Speaker 2: was coming for him in the middle of Wellington Harbor.
27:41
Speaker 2: It's eleven to six news talks, that'd be all right.
27:47
Speaker 2: Yesterday's State of the Nation address didn't really tell us
27:51
Speaker 2: anything that we didn't already know, but there was one
27:52
Speaker 2: comment that made everyone go, oh, he's going there and
27:55
Speaker 2: made everybody prick up their ears.
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Speaker 6: First, to support New Zealander's financial security against the backdrop
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Speaker 6: of an aging society and an inevitable list in the retirement.
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Speaker 2: Age, an inevitable lift in the retirement age. So if
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Speaker 2: super needs to change, how should we do it? Jonathan
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Speaker 2: Erickson as a retirement expert with fifty years of experience
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Speaker 2: with superannuation policy, and he joints her. Now are the
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Speaker 2: Jonathan yeah Moo and Andrew as the Prime minister? Right,
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Speaker 2: the raising of the retirement age is inevitable.
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Speaker 8: Now with respect to the Prime Minister, there's a way
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Speaker 8: a better way of doing it, which is to change
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Speaker 8: the tax ranging from TT to ee T, which means
28:41
Speaker 8: making contributions exempt for the employer and having a very
28:47
Speaker 8: low rate of tax on the investment income and then
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Speaker 8: tax and benefit. And by doing that we grow our
28:54
Speaker 8: superannuation pot get a lot more like Australia in fact,
28:58
Speaker 8: and may we can keep the retirement ages sixty five,
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Speaker 8: which is clearly better for Pacific Islanders, Mari and a
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Speaker 8: lot of hardworking people who's backs give out before age
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Speaker 8: sixty five, so we don't even have to raise the age.
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Speaker 8: And the beauty of the system although it'll defer tax
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Speaker 8: for a while, means you don't have to change too
29:21
Speaker 8: many things and you can implement it quickly.
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Speaker 2: So it seems simple to you. How come the government
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Speaker 2: doesn't know about this idea? And have you told them
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Speaker 2: about it?
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Speaker 8: I've tried to for years but they don't want to listen.
29:35
Speaker 8: They're said in their ways, they're very short term focused.
29:39
Speaker 8: They're trying to win the next election, and I could
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Speaker 8: assure Christopher Luxon this is not the way to do it.
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Speaker 2: I would suggest that actually even suggesting that they're going
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Speaker 2: to raise the retirement age would make them lose the election.
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Speaker 2: I thought it was quite a I thought he was
29:53
Speaker 2: taking quite a risk to say this.
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Speaker 8: Now, Well, President Matt Kront had to change the prime
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Speaker 8: ministers in France three times in a few months because
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Speaker 8: they were trying to put the retirement age up to
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Speaker 8: sixty four in France.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so if it is so look, if it is
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Speaker 2: so inevitable, And honestly, I've been saying this since Bulger
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Speaker 2: actually raised the age from sixty to sixty five, I thought, eventually,
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Speaker 2: we're not going to be able to afford this. If
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Speaker 2: it has been so inevitable, when is the right time
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Speaker 2: to take the chance to actually introduce this while also
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Speaker 2: winning an election.
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Speaker 8: Well, the time is now. The whole world is in
30:32
Speaker 8: a state of flux. You've got countries not knowing whether
30:35
Speaker 8: they're an authority in the regime or democracy, and you know,
30:40
Speaker 8: all's all over the place except town here, and we
30:44
Speaker 8: need to get on and get New Zealand better aligned
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Speaker 8: to the retirement savings in Australia. I just happened to
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Speaker 8: be in Parliament buildings in Canberra yesterday and looked at
30:54
Speaker 8: the portraits of Bob Hawk and Paul Keating. And in
30:58
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety one they reduced their compulsory super with a
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Speaker 8: three percent employer contribution levy. And now they've got trillions
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Speaker 8: in super in Australia and that's funding all their infrastructure
31:11
Speaker 8: and a lot of their development in tourism and other
31:15
Speaker 8: things which we desperately need to grab our country.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan, I got to go, but can you just tell
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Speaker 2: me what EET stands for?
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Speaker 8: Exempt exempt text? So you exempt the contribution income, you
31:28
Speaker 8: exempt the investment income, and you tax the end benefit
31:33
Speaker 8: and by taxing it, you actually offset the costs of
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Speaker 8: New Zealand superannuation to some extent without changing the retirement age.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Jonathan, I thank you so very very much. It's
31:43
Speaker 2: news talks. MP Andrew says John Luxan just lost the
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Speaker 2: election as no one will vote for changing the retirement age,
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Speaker 2: especially Winston who will go with labor horses in the
31:52
Speaker 2: middle he should have said nothing to laugh at the election.
31:55
Speaker 2: He has just shown more political and experience. But John,
31:57
Speaker 2: is he just being honest? Is it inevitable? I'll listen
32:00
Speaker 2: to that. That's the thumping of a set of infernes
32:03
Speaker 2: arriving into debt. And that is Mike Hosking is ex.
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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof Love where you Live News
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Speaker 1: Talk said.
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Speaker 2: Been Mike, greetings. When Bulger changed the retirement age, the
32:22
Speaker 2: way was that twenty twenty five years ago?
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Speaker 8: Whatever?
32:24
Speaker 2: So I remember that I started doing stories about we've
32:27
Speaker 2: got to do something about this. You know, there's a
32:28
Speaker 2: population boom and we've got to do something about this.
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Speaker 2: And I remember thinking at the time, I bet this
32:33
Speaker 2: is going to happen when I turned sixty. And I've
32:35
Speaker 2: turned sixty, have you Yeah, you don't look at it.
32:38
Speaker 2: Oh you're sweet, but but you know, here we go.
32:41
Speaker 2: That is this is an election winner, even if.
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Speaker 11: That's it's not an election or whoever your text to
32:46
Speaker 11: us before, For God's sake, I mean we've been arguing,
32:49
Speaker 11: you know for years, nothing's changing that do remember. So
32:52
Speaker 11: for the bloke who said he's going to lose the election.
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Speaker 11: This is not new what he said yesterday. I don't
32:56
Speaker 11: know why we've actually leapt on it. What he said
32:58
Speaker 11: is not new. It's a National Party thinking, which is
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Speaker 11: different to Keys thinking, of course, which was he was
33:03
Speaker 11: very much for keeping the age the same. But it's
33:06
Speaker 11: luctance thinking. They're not going to change that. Peters won't
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Speaker 11: move it. There's a coalition coming. If you can't move it. Therefore,
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Speaker 11: don't waste your time and election you're talking about it,
33:12
Speaker 11: because nothing's going to get fixed, is it.
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Speaker 13: No?
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Speaker 2: No, But by the way, don't forget about it. Think
33:17
Speaker 2: about it. It will happen one day. Well in some way.
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Speaker 11: I remember when I started working in nineteen eighty two,
33:21
Speaker 11: I was of the genuine belief that the government, by
33:24
Speaker 11: the time I got to sixty five, would not be
33:26
Speaker 11: in the business of super emotion. And I adjusted my
33:30
Speaker 11: life to that thinking.
33:31
Speaker 2: And you know, so on this is what I like
33:33
Speaker 2: to say to young folks right now. Don't rely on
33:35
Speaker 2: the government to do your own product.
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Speaker 11: Now I have to sort it out.
33:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get old.
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Speaker 11: It's like it's not like retirement's a surprise. Oil and
33:44
Speaker 11: gas this morning, by the way, got some good news
33:46
Speaker 11: on that.
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Speaker 2: Have you found some could well have well that's happened,
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Speaker 2: well have would be very hand exactly. Thank you so much,
33:51
Speaker 2: My thanks for producer ken Zi. I'm Andrew Dickins. Back
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Speaker 2: again tomorrow. I have yourself a great day. Take an
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Speaker 2: umbrella
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