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IFH 800: Behind the Scenes of Sharknado: Turning Sci-Fi Madness into Storytelling Gold with Andrew Shaffer · Indie Film Hustle® - A Filmmaking Podcast

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  Speaker 5: This is a very important podcast because we're going to
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  Speaker 5: teach you in this episode to how to survive a
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  Speaker 5: shark Nato. Now, Sharknado three is going to air on
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  Speaker 5: I know you're all very interested, so I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: get right into it and without further ado. Here's the
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  Speaker 5: interview with Andrew Schaeffer, author of How to Survive a
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  Speaker 5: Shark Nato.
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  Speaker 6: Stoting me today is Andrew Shafer.
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  Speaker 5: Andrew is a humorist and New York Times best selling
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  Speaker 5: author who works include The Great Philosophers Who Failed at Love,
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  Speaker 5: The Good Reached Choice semi finalis Fifty Shames of el
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  Speaker 5: Ol Gray T and sci fi's How to Survive a
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  Speaker 5: Shark Nado with Other Natural unnatural Disasters.
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  Speaker 6: Andrew, how are you doing today, sir?
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  Speaker 7: I'm away. It's about three pm here on the West Coast.
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  Speaker 6: So very cool.
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  Speaker 5: So could you just give us a little bit about
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  Speaker 5: your background and you know, how you guys sort as
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  Speaker 5: an author?
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  Speaker 7: How I got started as an author? I've always sort
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  Speaker 7: of been. I was always into reading as a child,
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  Speaker 7: and I sort of thought that the natural thing then
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  Speaker 7: was to start writing. And I didn't. I don't think
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  Speaker 7: I realized early on that not everybody who who reads books,
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  Speaker 7: you know, gets the inclination to also write them. I
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  Speaker 7: just felt like a very natural progression to me. But
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  Speaker 7: early on, as a child, I was very much into
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  Speaker 7: horror and science fiction. Any type of mystery, any type
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  Speaker 7: of genre of fiction was really what I sort of
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  Speaker 7: devoured at the time. Then I took a little detour
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  Speaker 7: in terms of I went to college where I studied
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  Speaker 7: at at the University of Iowa with writers workshop students there,
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  Speaker 7: which is a very it's much more of a literary
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  Speaker 7: fiction sort of training, and I got into that for
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  Speaker 7: a little bit a while, but I found myself sort
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  Speaker 7: of gravitating more back towards genre fiction, young adult just
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  Speaker 7: stuff that that that was sort of more entertaining, I thought.
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  Speaker 7: And that's kind of where I find myself right now,
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  Speaker 7: is going from maybe sort of more of a literary
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  Speaker 7: nonfiction books moving more into genre stuff like the How
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  Speaker 7: to Survive a Shark Medio.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, very cool, and that's a very important book because
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  Speaker 5: we all know shark nedos can happen. So I wanted
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  Speaker 5: to ask you, how did you actually pitch this book?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, did you actually pitch it to sci fi
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  Speaker 5: as as like, because I know in the book you
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  Speaker 5: cover other of their movies too.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean.
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  Speaker 7: The great thing about this is so I watched Sharpnado,
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  Speaker 7: the first movie, and I let my agent know, I
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  Speaker 7: was like, if you know, if there's like a novelization
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  Speaker 7: or something, I'd love to do that. Of course there
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  Speaker 7: wasn't with the first movie, but then she heard that
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  Speaker 7: Random House and the Sci Fi Channel we're looking to
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  Speaker 7: do something with the second movie, some type of tie in,
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  Speaker 7: and they had the idea to do a survival guide,
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  Speaker 7: sort of like the Zombie Surraval Guide by Max Brooks,
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  Speaker 7: and it was something that I did, so I don't think.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think originally, you know, they thought really thought
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  Speaker 7: of me because I wasn't writing any type of genre
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  Speaker 7: stuff at the time. I just had a parody come
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  Speaker 7: out though, Fifty Shames of Earl Grade, so they kind
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  Speaker 7: of said, well, you kind of do the humor writing,
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  Speaker 7: and I did a sample for it. They ended up
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  Speaker 7: liking it and asked me to write the book then,
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  Speaker 7: so it came together pretty fast. I had to watch
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  Speaker 7: about I don't know, it was like thirty or forty
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  Speaker 7: from sci fi movies to actually write the book and
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  Speaker 7: sort of ties them all together sort of in one universe.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, excellent.
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  Speaker 5: So you know when you did actually pitch the sci
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  Speaker 5: fi were they really open to using all their other
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  Speaker 5: movies as well, we had a.
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  Speaker 7: List to go off of. I mean I had some
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  Speaker 7: that I wanted to use that we weren't able to,
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  Speaker 7: but they had a list of you know somewhere probably
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  Speaker 7: about fifty or sixty that they had licensing that we
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  Speaker 7: could work with, and then there was just so much
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  Speaker 7: that were off limits. So it was basically I had
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  Speaker 7: to go with what they gave me and then sort
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  Speaker 7: of narrow it down from there. And then we actually
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  Speaker 7: ended up creating a bunch for the for the guidebooks.
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  Speaker 7: So there's about ten or twelve in there. I think
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  Speaker 7: that that are actually unique and original to the book.
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  Speaker 5: And what's cool is because if you haven't seen all
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  Speaker 5: the sci fi movies, you can actually go through and
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  Speaker 5: try to figure out which ones are created and which
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  Speaker 5: ones are actually real movies.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's the funny thing. I've had some people
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  Speaker 7: pick up the book and go, how did you come
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  Speaker 7: up with some of this crap? I'm like, I didn't.
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  Speaker 7: It is this is you know, you can actually go
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  Speaker 7: either like there should be a movie about this, and
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, well, guess what, you know. You you can
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  Speaker 7: go see a Korona condo movie and it's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 5: So could you elaborate, you know, on some of the
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  Speaker 5: monsters that you wanted to use but you couldn't.
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  Speaker 7: I don't I don't even really remember exactly which ones
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  Speaker 7: we couldn't use off the stack of my head, but
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  Speaker 7: I know that, you know, there were we had to
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  Speaker 7: sort of narrow it.
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  Speaker 6: Down to.
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  Speaker 7: To what what was sort of we didn't want to
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  Speaker 7: have like like thirty different shark based ones, you know,
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  Speaker 7: So there were some, but we used most of the
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  Speaker 7: the big sci fi channel movies that that they've done
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  Speaker 7: that were kind of hits, like Shark to Puss and
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  Speaker 7: Parma Conda and stuff, even Stone Atot. So it was
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  Speaker 7: so it was there wasn't really a lot that was
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  Speaker 7: left on the cutting room floor.
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  Speaker 6: I'd say, okay, interesting.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, so when you're you're writing this book
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  Speaker 5: and you're piecing this all together, did you actually watch
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  Speaker 5: each individual movie and sort of make a list and
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  Speaker 5: make a lot of notes on.
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  Speaker 7: Each Oh, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I had to watch every every movie that we included three, four,
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  Speaker 7: five times to really pick up everything that was going
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  Speaker 7: on and kind of look at different angles and stuff.
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  Speaker 7: So so it was really I approached it sort of
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  Speaker 7: like I did my nonfiction books, which was just a
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  Speaker 7: lot of research, and then I had to try to
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  Speaker 7: figure out scientific explanations for how some of this stuff
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  Speaker 7: happened in the real world. And you know, there that's
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  Speaker 7: not something they're thinking about really, and they're making the movie.
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  Speaker 7: They're thinking to make something entertaining, but to write it
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  Speaker 7: down in a book. I was like, I need to
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  Speaker 7: come up with reasons why you know, sharks can survive
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  Speaker 7: when flying around inside of a tornado. You know what,
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  Speaker 7: how do I make that sort of believable? And so
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  Speaker 7: I like talked to like a marine biologist for that,
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  Speaker 7: and I was like, it was like, how did you
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  Speaker 7: know is this? You know, not could this happen? But
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  Speaker 7: but what's a logical way to make this, you know, happen.
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  Speaker 5: So when you when you interviewed that marine biologist, did
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  Speaker 5: hear she know what shark Nado was before you talk
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  Speaker 5: to them?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. The biologists spoke to She was
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  Speaker 7: a she was a huge fan of these sci fi
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  Speaker 7: movies actually, and and was you know, really thrilled to
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  Speaker 7: answer my questions and stuff. She's like, she's like, we
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  Speaker 7: really love them. They're you know, they're I don't want
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  Speaker 7: to say, uh is the word terrible? I figured what
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  Speaker 7: word she used. But I mean, they're just they're just entertaining.
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  Speaker 7: You can turn your mind off while watching them.
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  Speaker 7: And you don't have to worry about the scientific stuff
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  Speaker 7: behind it. And they said this is just just for pure,
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  Speaker 7: you know, entertainment value.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I was just you know, when you brought that up,
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  Speaker 5: I was actually wondering, you know, if if she hadn't
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  Speaker 5: heard of that, and you just want to you know, uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, could a shark and a tornado come together?
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  Speaker 5: And she would have been like, could you get this
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  Speaker 5: crazy man out of my office?
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  Speaker 6: Please?
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  Speaker 7: I know, I know, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So some of that stuff, you know, was was a
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  Speaker 7: lot of fun to sort of research, you know, and
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  Speaker 7: then there's other stuff. I mean, I think there was
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  Speaker 7: one movie that I watched that I watched it probably
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  Speaker 7: ten times, and I couldn't figure out anyway not only
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  Speaker 7: to make the science work in real life, but I
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  Speaker 7: couldn't figure out how the science worked in the movie.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, this movie doesn't really make much sense.
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  Speaker 7: And I was like, I'm probably gonna cut this one
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  Speaker 7: out of the book.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, you know you uh, now you wrote
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  Speaker 5: this book during the UH and it coincided with the
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  Speaker 5: release of Sharknado two, so you know, so now with
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  Speaker 5: Sharknerd three coming out, you know, I wanted to ask
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  Speaker 5: you what, what are.
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  Speaker 6: Some of your expectations about Sharknader three.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I really didn't have any expectations even for
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  Speaker 7: the second Sharknado because I hadn't hadn't seen it ahead
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  Speaker 7: of time or wrote the script or anything. So the
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  Speaker 7: second one itself was kind of a surprise. I kind of,
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  Speaker 7: you know, had an idea of that it would kind
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  Speaker 7: of be a little bit more meta than the first one,
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  Speaker 7: and it was. And so the third one, I'm you know,
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  Speaker 7: I was, I'm kind of hoping it goes a little
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  Speaker 7: bit back to basics. But which is you know, really
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  Speaker 7: taking the concept as seriously as possible. I think it's
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  Speaker 7: something that once it gets to meta, it becomes if
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  Speaker 7: everybody's in on the joke, you know, than than the
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  Speaker 7: joke itself. Isn't that funny anymore? So I kind of
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  Speaker 7: like seeing a little bit more serious, But but I
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  Speaker 7: don't really know what direction they're gonna take it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I want to say, a more personal Sharknado film. Maybe
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  Speaker 7: that's where you have to rebio the franchise.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, I really want to see a more like
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  Speaker 5: uh David Lynchian Sharknado film, you know. But but yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I completely agree with.
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  Speaker 6: You on that point.
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  Speaker 5: I you know, I also noticed that in the second
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  Speaker 5: one there was a lot more celebrity cameos, like pretty much,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like every time they went somewhere,
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  Speaker 5: there's a celebrity I hear. Now there's like even more
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  Speaker 5: celebrities and Sharknado three, Oh.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's everybody wanted to want to, you know, be
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  Speaker 7: in on it, be on on a joke. And I think,
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  Speaker 7: you know, I don't know if it's a situation where uh,
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  Speaker 7: celebrities are just contacting them and say I'll work for
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  Speaker 7: no money or something, and they're like, how can we
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  Speaker 7: refuse that? You know, they really can't say, you know,
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  Speaker 7: if David Hasselhoff wants to be in their movie or something,
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  Speaker 7: they for no money, it really can't say no to that.
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  Speaker 7: It's not like they're courting these celebrities, I would think. So,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I think it's just gonna have It's
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  Speaker 7: definitely gonna have more celebrity cameos. If you tried to
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  Speaker 7: play a celebrity cameo with drinking game or something with
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  Speaker 7: Sharpnado two, you would have died. I mean, there were
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  Speaker 7: so many that are coming so fast you didn't even know.
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  Speaker 7: You know, you can't even tell who was an actor,
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  Speaker 7: who was a celebrity. You know it was it was.
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  Speaker 7: It came pretty fast and.
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  Speaker 6: Curious it did. And I think you're right too.
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  Speaker 5: I think there might have been called people who who
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  Speaker 5: attempted to do a drinking game, and there was It's
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  Speaker 5: probably weren't so well for them. So you're jumping back
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  Speaker 5: to your book, you know in the chapter you have
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  Speaker 5: an entire you know chapter obviously just to shark Nado.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, I have to answer a question, is
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  Speaker 5: you know, how do you survive a sharknado?
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  Speaker 7: How do you survive a sharp nato. A lot of
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  Speaker 7: people said just don't watch it, but I mean, I
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  Speaker 7: mean this simple answer of you know, how do you
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  Speaker 7: survive a shark nado is some people think, oh, well,
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  Speaker 7: I survive I survive it by uh, you know, going
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  Speaker 7: to the basement. The same way I'd survive a tornado,
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  Speaker 7: which really doesn't work because a lot of times during
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  Speaker 7: a sharknado you'll also have associated flying with that. The
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  Speaker 7: only way to really escape it is to just drive
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  Speaker 7: as fast as possible out of town, which if you're
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  Speaker 7: in LA or someplace else where, there's going to be
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  Speaker 7: a bunch of traffic jams or something that's just not
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  Speaker 7: gonna be possible. So, you know, there's there's really no
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  Speaker 7: good answer that you know. The answer in the book
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  Speaker 7: is you know, stand and fight, you know, grab a chainsaw,
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  Speaker 7: grab whatever you can, and you know, and and fight
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  Speaker 7: back when these things flying at you. So, you know,
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  Speaker 7: But I but personally I'm I'm not like a survivalist
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  Speaker 7: or anything. I mean, I had to research survival stuff
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  Speaker 7: for the book, but I don't, you know, I don't.
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  Speaker 7: I don't. I'm so bad about falling in real life,
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  Speaker 7: you know, and like I don't have like a unnatural
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  Speaker 7: disaster kid, I don't have, you know, three palettes of
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  Speaker 7: bulbed water stored up here, which I probably should, uh.
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: After reading that New Yorker article on on earthquakes on
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  Speaker 7: the Pacific Northwest this week, So.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I read that same article apparently in fifty years,
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  Speaker 5: Seattle is just going to be nothing.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Seattle is going to get the worst of it.
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  Speaker 7: I think Portland, where I'm at, it's you know, it's uh,
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  Speaker 7: there's gonna be some some stuff fall off the wall
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  Speaker 7: or something. I don't know. It's not it's not gonna
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  Speaker 7: be too bad in Portland, I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And just in case he doesn't know what Andrew and
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  Speaker 5: I are talking about, I'll link to that in the
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  Speaker 5: show notes so you can read up on that and
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  Speaker 5: then uh, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, get scared to death. You'd be like, oh my god.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, uh, Andrew, I've had some some fan
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  Speaker 5: questions come in if you don't mind answering a few, sure.
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  Speaker 5: So the first question I received was, Andrew, what was
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  Speaker 5: the most unstoppable monster that you researched for the book?
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  Speaker 7: The most unstoppable monster was the ghost shark, because there's
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  Speaker 7: just really no good way to stop a ghost trage
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  Speaker 7: like like there. It was actually a movie too with
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  Speaker 7: with the guy from uh Bowl from Night Court. I
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  Speaker 7: was in this movie and this shark appeared manifested anywhere
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  Speaker 7: there was water, so it was in a swimming pool.
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  Speaker 7: One came out of a toilet, another came out of
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  Speaker 7: a bobble of water, and there was no way to
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  Speaker 7: get away from it anywhere you went. I was just like,
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  Speaker 7: and it never got full of eating people, so it
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  Speaker 7: just went around and around this eating people and stuff.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm like, how do you stop this thing? And
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  Speaker 7: I'm trying to think of you know, there you basically
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  Speaker 7: it's you have to do some elaborate ghost trapping or something.
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  Speaker 7: But really it was like it was like on on on,
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  Speaker 7: you know, on one to one level. You know, on
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  Speaker 7: an individual level, there was nothing you could do to
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  Speaker 7: stop it besides find the the whatever talisman it was
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  Speaker 7: in the movie. So yeah, ghost try. Pretty frightening stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Now see the check that movie out, because I had
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: no no idea that was actually a real movie.
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: Oh my god. It is amazing, just just the number
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: of uh number there's there's this amazing bikini car wash
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: scene where where the ghost shark materializes out of a
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: bucket of water. It's it's just crazy.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Uh So you know, a follow up question is, you know, Andrew,
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: are you playing on running a sequel to the book?
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: No, no, uh And basically I think you know, I
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: don't I don't know what else I could say about
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: Shark Natos or actually about most paranormal threats or supernatural
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: stuff like that. But but I am working on in
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: another book that will hopefully be sort of along the
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: similar lines as far as horror goes.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Oh, very cool.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Could you tell us a little bit about it or
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: you want to keep it hush hush?
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: It's like super hush hush right now.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: Okay, So all right, and then on to the next question.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: We had to come in from Michelle the trainer, who
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: was a fan of the show.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: Is Andrew a scuba diver?
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Conservationalist or so? I'm sorry that was the first part
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: of the questions. Sorry, I was just reading or reading reading.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: Uh, so are you a scuba diver? Andrew?
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: No, I'm not.
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: No, No, I've never gone Scoopa diving.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: And uh. The second part of that was any plans
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: for Shark de Puss?
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: Well, I like survival for the Shark to Puss. Yeah,
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: so the Shark de Puss is in the book, but
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: in terms of uh, the show's new movie coming out,
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: Shark to Purse Versus Whale Wolf, which is the third
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: Shark de plus movie.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: We'll be right back after a wh heard from our sponsor,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: and now back to the show.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: And which are which Again, if you haven't seen the
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: Shark Depus movies, those are phenomenally entertaining as well. But
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: in terms of how to survive as shark deplush again,
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: it was like I started to write some of some
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: of these and I was like, the best thing you
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: can do is just to to move as far away
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: from the coast as possible, because a lot of these
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: threats in the book that I wrote about were all
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: like sort of water based threats, And I'm like, unless
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: you like live in Florida or La or something or
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: along the coast, you're fine. But then you get inland.
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: And then I said, then you find yourself in Nebraska,
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: and I mean, I don't know you, I don't know.
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: So uh So the next question that came in was
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: if Andrew is going to create his own in sci
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: fi monster, what kind of monster would he create?
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: Well, I think that what kind of monster I would create.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: I had an idea for one that was not used
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: in the book, and it was called a wolf Blizzard,
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: which was a pun on the CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer,
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: and it was just a Blizzard of Wolves, and that
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: actually got rejected for the book because they were like,
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: it's it's the pun is too far. Like it's They're like,
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: there's like an there's like a line that we would
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: never go past, and you just passed it. And I
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: was like, oh my god, I can't believe I found
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: the line where you will not cross. So but I
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: would still like to to. I was like, I was like,
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: I'm going to go write this script.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: So for all the aspiring writers listening to this, Andrew
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: has just shown the line in the sand that sci
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: fi channel will not cross.
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, So Andrew, I wanted to ask right now, you know,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: what are your future plans on publishing. I know there's
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: a project that's very hush hush, but is there any
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: other projects you're working on or anything else you could
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: tell us about right now.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: I'm also working on a on a young adult novel
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: that that's something I've been working on for a while.
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: I've got a few things that are like in the pipeline,
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: but it's just like you get a fine, you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: find the right sort of place for them at a
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: publisher or either self publish it or whatever. And and
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: just got to wait for sort of the stars to align,
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: and until that happens, like I don't have any good
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: news to announce. It's kind of boring, Like it's something
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: my mom calls me all the time and says, oh,
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: when's your next book coming out? And I'm like, I
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: don't know. You'll be the first one to know, don't worry.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: So, Andrew, I wanted to ask you too. You know
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: your your book Sharknado was on sale. Is it still
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: on sale right now?
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: As of today it is for us for like a
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: dollar in a ninety book. I don't know how long
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: the sale is going.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: To last, so okay, so when this is up, I'm,
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: you know, hopefully I will link to Andrew's book in
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: the show notes. Hopefully it'll know if it's not on sale,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: it's still a relatively goodbye. And I guarantee you it's
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: it is. You know, it's entertaining, it's hilarious, and look
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: at me. I've learned a lot about the Sci Fi
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Channel movies because I'm I you know, I've learned about
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: ghost Shark today.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's a value at any price, you know.
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: And the book is like forty megabytes because it has
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: a bunch of drawings in it, so you know, that's
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: about twenty times the size of another final download for
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: a regular pros book.
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: So I mean, you know, that's what a deal, right, yeah,
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: Because when I was flipping through it, I went to obviously,
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: I went to the shark Nado chapter and greeting me
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: is a you know, a black and white hand drawn
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: picture of a shark nadow right right right, I.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Mean, and the book's got recipes, you know, excerpts from
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: classic literature that I have completely trashed, such as Moe Dick.
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: So yeah, it's got a lot of stuff in there.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: It's got something for everybody. So, you know, Andrew, inclosing,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: you know, is there anything that we didn't talk about
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: today that you wanted to mention or any any you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: closing thoughts or final thoughts.
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: No, my mind is, my mind is completely blank. I'm
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: I doing like this meditation class right now, so I'm
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: learning to sort of wipe away all thoughts in my mind.
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: You know, normally I would have one hundred things to
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: talk about right now, but right now it's just like
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: it's I'm I'm learning to zellne out.
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: And go like.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: All right, Andrew, where people find you out online?
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, anywhere, Twitter, Facebook, Google, you know, al
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: someone has to do is google my name Andrew Schaeffer
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: s H A F F E R. As long as
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: they spell it right, they can find me, you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: which is you know, kind of disturbing.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: But I'm all over the place, and and I'll make
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: sure to uh to link to all that in the
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: show notes too.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: I'll link to your website and your Twitter.
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: Uh, you don't. You don't have to just make them
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: work for it.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: Work for it, Okay.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: I will not link to Andrew's info in the show notes,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: so you will have to work for it.
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: Then.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Yes, it'll be the first time, but I will not
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: I promise you. I will not link to that in
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: the show notes. But Andrew Wannese, thank you very much
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: for coming on again. Everyone. It's how to Survive a
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Sharknado and Other Unnatural Disasters that it's I will link
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: to the I will link to this and the show notes,
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: but it's right to the kindle version. And is there
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: a physical version of this book too, Andrew?
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: There is there is, because you know, once once a
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: sharp NATO or some other type of disaster it hits
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: you need the physical version. You know, you can be
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: able to charge your phone or whatnot. So you know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: I always advise people to get the e book and
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: the physical version and it just to be on the
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: safe side.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: See, that's why you're the publisher, because that's that that
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: is forethought, my friend.
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: Yes, yes, exactly.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you won't have that's right. So you know the
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: physical the the E book I have. You know, if
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: it does the power goes out, I won't be able
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: to find it. So I'll have to look into the
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: physical version now too. Yeah, so Andrew want to say
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: thank you so much for coming on. Everyone in the
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: book is How to Survivor Shark Nato. Andrew, thanks again
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: for coming on, and again feel free to you know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: drop me an email anytime, and I love to have
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: you back some time.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: Great family chatting with you, Dave.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: Oh you too, my friend. Take care of everyone.
• 26:57
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• 26:59
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• 27:00
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• 27:02
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