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Set 2: Belmont with Big Tuna (w/ Sal Licata) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: The Great Salakata is with us the Salakata Show wherever
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  Speaker 1: you get your podcast. He is keeping horse racing alive.
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  Speaker 1: He is one of the people in the younger demographic
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  Speaker 1: who is keeping horse racing alive. We'll get Wow, you
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  Speaker 1: have something on horse racing. I know you went to
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  Speaker 1: the Bellmont. Before we get to the next go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: What I love Saratoga and Sarahtoga was hosting the Belmont
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  Speaker 2: for the third straight year. Yeah. I went into Bill
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  Speaker 2: Parcells there, had we had some fun. I love. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I love Saratoga in the summer. It's great.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's fantastic. I gotta tell you of all the
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  Speaker 1: places I've been to see Dead and Company shows, dead shows,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not certain I've taken more mushrooms anywhere else in
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  Speaker 1: America than I have in Saratoga. How about that?
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  Speaker 2: Huh, I've heard. I've never been to that venue, but
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  Speaker 2: I've heard it's great for a concert.
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  Speaker 1: Spack is fantastic. Yes, So you were hanging out with
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  Speaker 1: Big Tuna at the Belmont Stakes. Huh. I mean that's
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty exciting stuff for you him and his girlfriend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a week. I had an interview set
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  Speaker 2: up through a mutual friend talk to him for about
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  Speaker 2: five minutes. He was enjoying the scenes. It was great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you bet the winning horse or I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I did win money that day, not on that race necessarily,
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  Speaker 2: but I did win some money. Anytime you could go
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  Speaker 2: there and not lose money, I think it's great. So
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  Speaker 2: it was nice. I paid for dinner I had. I
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  Speaker 2: had a great hanging out with Tuna. I played a
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  Speaker 2: little golf stude the next day. Very nice to have
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  Speaker 2: you played Saratoga National. It's a beautiful golf.
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  Speaker 1: I have played it. It's wonderful. Yes, you played it
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  Speaker 1: with Tuna. I mean I did.
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  Speaker 2: No, I did not play it with Tuna. I played
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  Speaker 2: it with a mutual friend. Was not there. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to play it eighty five.
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  Speaker 3: So I didn't think my day could get any worse.
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  Speaker 3: And then we started talking about horse racing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Sala said he went to the Fucking'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I cursed. Sala said he went to the Belmont Stakes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what do you want me to do? I
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  Speaker 1: was excited for him, and then we brought, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a whole spec conversation broke out and suddenly he's with
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  Speaker 1: big Tuna. I mean I'm sorry I got excited for
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  Speaker 1: a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Dolphin horse racing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, because I've said horse racing is dead. The
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  Speaker 1: second horse won the Triple Crown, everyone stopped caring about it,
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  Speaker 1: and South clearly he's he's I'm alone. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: stopped caring about it, but still cares about it very
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  Speaker 1: very much.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a stretch. I just care about having
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  Speaker 2: a good time hanging out of the track. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if I necessarily care. It's fun. I'm not trying
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  Speaker 2: to save the sport, all right, tal any thoughts on
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  Speaker 2: the French Open or anything else.
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  Speaker 1: To get.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about the French though? I mean
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  Speaker 2: French Open. I don't know the French. Wemby's French, right,
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  Speaker 2: That's what I would say about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Taylor put this on the poll here when talking
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  Speaker 1: about Wemby. Is the term scumbag too strong? Taylor called
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  Speaker 1: him a scumbag earlier? Also put this on the poll.
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  Speaker 1: Is Wemby a dirty basketball player? Sally your thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: I would agree with Taylor. I don't know if I
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  Speaker 2: would put it this way. That word came into my mind.
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  Speaker 2: I did not use it on the air on the podcast,
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  Speaker 2: but that word, I think Taylor is onto something with that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I would label him a dirty player.
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  Speaker 2: He did something on the floor that was so dirty
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  Speaker 2: that I have not felt that level of rage for
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  Speaker 2: a sporting of since Game two of the two thousand
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: World Series, where I wanted to jump out of my
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: seat and go attack Roger Clemens himself for throwing the
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  Speaker 2: bat at piazza. That's how I felt last night. If
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  Speaker 2: I could afford the ten grand to get in, I
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  Speaker 2: would have wanted to run on the court. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: like that idiot who took the selfie with himself and Wemby,
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  Speaker 2: I would have liked to elbow him in the ribs.
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  Speaker 2: If this was the nineties, Wemby would have been playing
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  Speaker 2: that game. Would have broken eye socket and broken ribs
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  Speaker 2: the rest of that way, So you can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: He threw the guy down there, strowed down, and the
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  Speaker 2: Knicks didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 3: So here's the evidence against Victor Wenbinama. This postseason, he
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  Speaker 3: elbowed Nasrid. He told his teammates to target OKC players,
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  Speaker 3: which resulted in Mason Plumley taking out Jared McCain. The
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  Speaker 3: Alvarado box out in Game two, the Brunton playing Game three,
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  Speaker 3: the dirtiest Player of the Year. That's the deep poy
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  Speaker 3: that Wenby should have won.
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  Speaker 1: Put it on the poll. Is the dpoy that Wemby
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  Speaker 1: should have won the dirtiest Player of the year. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna vote yes on it just because it's fun, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: And so when Bin Yama is two flagrant foul points
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  Speaker 3: away this postseason from getting suspended, him and Josh Hart's
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  Speaker 3: landing area could have been one. Him shoving Brunson down
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  Speaker 3: by the neck should have been one. If the NBA
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  Speaker 3: had a spine. Today they come out and they say
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  Speaker 3: NB retroactively assessed a flagrant one for the hit and
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  Speaker 3: shoved to the back of Brunson's head and neck area,
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  Speaker 3: and then he's just one more flagrant foul point away
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  Speaker 3: from being suspended in the NBA Finals, which would be
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  Speaker 3: a terrible look for the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: I knew you could rescind, obviously, because they did that
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  Speaker 2: with Mitchell Robinson. I didn't know you could post retroactive
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  Speaker 2: give him a flagrant. That to me is the least
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  Speaker 2: that they should do. How they missed that like a
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  Speaker 2: if that happened and a flagrant was cold, I still
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  Speaker 2: would have been enraged. But b how that happens and
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  Speaker 2: there's no foul. I mean, well, the Knicks are having
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  Speaker 2: fat and I'm not one to complain about the refs,
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: but I think the officiating has been bad in these
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  Speaker 2: three games, in particular last night. How was that not
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  Speaker 2: a flagrant? Even Brunton gets cold for a flagrant when
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  Speaker 2: clearly was incidental to me at least he was turning
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  Speaker 2: the other way. I don't think he meant any harm
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  Speaker 2: there with being in the shooters lane to fold down whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Wemby should have had a flagrant, And you're right, Taylor,
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  Speaker 2: if they can do that, I don't know that was
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  Speaker 2: in the rule books. Then he at the veryly it
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't do anything for me now, but at the very
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  Speaker 2: least he should be assessed to flagrant.
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  Speaker 1: Sal Am I making this too simple when I say
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: these two teams. You can talk about the referees all
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: you want. You can talk about the Nicks getting jobbed
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  Speaker 1: all you want. Am I making it too simple when
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  Speaker 1: I say these two teams are evenly matched, they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: play seven games. If they played seven games, they would
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  Speaker 1: all come down to the wire and some of those
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  Speaker 1: games you're gonna win, and some of those games you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna lose.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, this is what we call a series. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's like fans forget like, oh, you win game one,
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  Speaker 2: you gonna win a little, you win game two, it's over. Literally,
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  Speaker 2: I had I couldn't believe that this happened. I take
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  Speaker 2: the train into from New Jersey into the city. We
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: get to the city for the first time ever. The
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  Speaker 2: conductor on this path train goes, Welcome to New York.
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  Speaker 2: And I've done this, I do this every day, never
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  Speaker 2: says this, Welcome to New York, the home of the
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six NBA champion New York Knicks. Yep, oh,
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  Speaker 2: mich are you kidding me? You aniot? What are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: And he's not alone, because everybody else in this town
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  Speaker 2: thought that it's over after two games, and now what
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna have happened is the opposite. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: they lost and they stink and the rest there. So
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  Speaker 2: that it's a series. You win one, you win too.
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  Speaker 2: You lose one, you lose to your rights to These
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  Speaker 2: are the two best teams in the NBA playing a
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  Speaker 2: best of seven series. Yes, see how far it goes,
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  Speaker 2: but it wasn't gonna be a sweep.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the series, well, I think nick fans were holding
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  Speaker 1: out that it would be a sweep because there was
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  Speaker 1: a celebration leading up to Game three. Nick fans would
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  Speaker 1: prefer they'd be up three to nothing. You and I
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: doing what we do for a living, perhaps like the
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  Speaker 1: storylines of a best of seven series. In this particular case,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I want the Knicks to win this thing
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  Speaker 1: and win it as quickly as possible. But your larger
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  Speaker 1: point is right, A series is a roller coaster where
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  Speaker 1: twenty four hours ago it's a coronation and you're celebrating
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: the Knicks winning an NBA championship. At twenty four hours later,
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  Speaker 1: you could see the other side of it where they
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: don't win an NBA championship because they're playing one of
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: the best players we've ever seen in a team that
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: is really, really solid. That's what a series is all about.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the panic comes from some Knicks fans,
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  Speaker 3: and I put Knicks fans in quotation marks. They're experiencing
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  Speaker 3: their first loss today, and I get it. This is
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  Speaker 3: a lot of Johnny cum latelyis have have been long
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  Speaker 3: for this thirteen game win streak. There have been seventy
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  Speaker 3: nine NBA finals played since the league started in nineteen
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  Speaker 3: forty seven. There's been nine sweeps. That's less than twelve percent.
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  Speaker 3: This isn't supposed to be easy. Still, you know, if
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  Speaker 3: it was easy, James Harden would have done it, Chris
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  Speaker 3: Paul would have done it, Joel Embiid would have done it.
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  Speaker 3: So let's roll our sleeves up and let's get ready
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  Speaker 3: for Game four. Let's go win game four.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: That's what I starting to turn the corner sout. I
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  Speaker 1: like it. Yes, he is starting to regain some positivity
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  Speaker 1: and some color in.
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  Speaker 2: His Yes, it's the right mindset. I felt. I was
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  Speaker 2: nervous after two, especially when everybody was talking sweep. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way it's gonna be this easy, not against
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  Speaker 2: a team like that. But now, okay, so they lost
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  Speaker 2: the game, big deal. I'm still confident that they were
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  Speaker 2: going to win Game four and then take it commanding
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: three game to one lead back to San Antonio. So yeah,
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is what happens. It shouldn't be the
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  Speaker 2: end of the world just because they lost the game.
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: You lose the game, you move on. Okay, now you're
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: still in a great spot up two games to one
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: at home. Everybody would have signed for that, Taylor. I
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: saw your post on social media. Couldn't agree more. You
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: would sign before the series up to one going into
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  Speaker 2: game four. Now they got to go out there and deliver,
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: that's the thing. But that's how series work. I still
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: feel that the Knicks are gonna win this series. It's unfortunate,
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna be the easy way, but of course
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: it's Last night was the reality that it stopped going
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  Speaker 2: from fun, which it's been for the Knicks in this postseason,
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: winning thirteen straight, most of them by blowouts. The fun
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: went away and now it becomes torture and there's pain
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  Speaker 2: involved and all those different things. The fun went out
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: the window. This is the angst, the anxiety that you
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: feel throughout a course of a series is certainly an
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: NBA Finals.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: Taylor is right, of course, it's it's what he says. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I would have taken two to one headed into Game
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  Speaker 1: four if you told me that before the series started.
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: But it's how you get to two to one.
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: It's how you arrive at two games to one, and
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: they arrived there a little bit differently the most teams
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: do in the NBA Finals. Sal by winning two games
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: on the road, and it did feel like a celebration.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you told Nick fans hey before
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  Speaker 1: Game three, it's gonna be two to one after three
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: games before the series, yes, before the game, they would
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: have been like, what are you out of your mind?
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: No, I want to be up three to zero, you know, right,
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: they expected to be up. The expectations completely changed from
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: where they were in game one. Yes, in game two,
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: where the expectation was Spurs are gonna win game one,
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: and then when the next one game one, well, Spurs
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: are definitely gonna win game two. Right, all of a sudden,
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: Nicks up to Oh. The expectation went from the Spurs
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: expected to win. Then it's all on the the expectation
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: that it's gonnaweep this series and beat the Spurs. So
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: that obviously completely changed it. My biggest concern with the
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: whole thing is that I don't think the Knicks will
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: played great in three games. It's not one like if
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: you don't play great for one game and steal it. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Game two had some moments, still didn't play a great
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: game and we're able to steal that game three, you
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: don't play well again, Like the Knicks have to start
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: playing some better basketball here to win the championship. They
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: cannot get by the Spurs playing with the way that
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: they have played three straight games.
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  Speaker 4: The problem is the expectations versus history. I feel like
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: the Knicks history is worth two games, and all of
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: a sudden, you feel like you're down three two because
• 10:30
  Speaker 4: you've seen the Knicks so many times get close and
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: then not be able to finish it that we've kind
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: of been waiting as Knick fans for the other shoot
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: to drop and be like, oh no, the shot went in.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: Oh no, that happened.
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: So it feels like this game brought them back to
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: reality and the reality hasn't been good for decades.
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  Speaker 2: But it's one It's one loss. I think about all
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: the Knick fans will waiting to be brought to they well,
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  Speaker 2: thirteen straight games, they lose one, and nobody should be
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: jumping off the ship or the bridge or whatever you
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: want to it's one game, Like it's they lost a
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: game to a great freaking team. He took everything the
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: sports have had for three games to be able to
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: beat the Knicks one so far.
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you jump off what are you jumping off?
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  Speaker 1: Is it a bandwagon? Is it the ship? What is it?
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: I mean ship?
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I don't know's that's a good point, Taylor.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: Are you accounting? Are you doing accounting here? And who's
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: jumping off the ship and who's jumping on the ship.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: Why do I need Bob Kraft in the front row
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: court side last night at the next game?
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: Seriously? Whose decision was that?
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: It's a terrible decision. I don't need the guy at
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: the world's most famous arena who is synonymous with the
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots, a team that.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: Everyone in New York gates. I don't want to see
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: that guy court side at a Knicks game. Same with
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: Jeter and same with Eli. Get the hell out of here.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: How many games has Jeter been too stock? Too far?
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: You went too far?
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: You were with and you you knew what the second
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: you said.
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  Speaker 2: You tried to sneak that one. The issue with Jeter
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: and Eli is that it was part of the coronation.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: Here are the two guys that have won. Here are
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: the two winners, with Eli with his two Super Bowls,
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  Speaker 2: Jeter with his billion rings. That's the bar. The only
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: thing missing was MESSI A yeah, and they were coordinating. Hey, Jalen,
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  Speaker 2: this is gonna be like, that's gonna be your spot
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  Speaker 2: right next to those guys. They did it when they
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: were up to Oh like you do that for a
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: clincher or after the fact.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: That was too much. Yep, you're right, so Stu.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: You shouldn't have taken astray at Eli shouldn't have taken
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: Jeter Craft.
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: Where are you where? Yes?
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: Where you could have gone after Craft? Did Fat Joe
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: use his plus one ticket on DJ Khaled Miami Heat Superfan?
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: He didn't look up from his phone for one second
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: that game.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: I know he was on the phone. He was actually
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: talking on the phone DJ Khaled during the game court side.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: It was it was I mean, I was out, Yes.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: Can we can we play one table? Did we do
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: this with Jeter Eli Brunson. You want to throw in
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: Kalid or Fat Joe or crab whatever.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: But it's funny how that game change as you put
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns out there today and probably he might
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: not get the table anymore. I mean, same with Becale Bridges.
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  Speaker 2: And DJ Khaled. You're right, Hea fan shouldn't be allowed
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: in the building, which, by the way, I was nervous
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: going into the game last night. So me and my
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: buddies were talking about, Hey, if we hop on this now,
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: the Knicks are probably gonna lose one of these next
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: two games. Let's get tickets for game five in San Antonio,
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: which could be the potential clincher. Boy, and we go
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: through it. It's thousands of dollars. So I'm like, all right,
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: do I really want to do this? Whose card are
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: we gonna go on? And then we found the seat.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: All right, this isn't that bad. Let's do it. We
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: get to the moment I clicked the yes here it is,
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: putting all my card info, the thing circling. I get
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: that rush of adrenaline. I'm like, holy cow, man, I
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: just did it. We're going to San Antonio. I'll book
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: the flights after this game and it pops up. Locals
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: only not allowed to purchase tickets. You'll be refunded. I
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: can't buy tickets to the game in San Antonio because
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: I'm out from there yet. DJ khaled, This, damn heat fan,
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: You're sitting courtside for the Nick game. What's wrong? I
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: can't even buy tickets to san Antonio.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Legally, that is shocking san Antonio.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that that was the thing. I
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: thought Philly tried to do that with the nick fans.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that that was the thing where you
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: couldn't just and I'm not you know, I'm not trying
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: to look at the secondary Morkets or whatever the price
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: may be there. But on ticket Master I wasn't allowed
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: to do that. I don't think that was right.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Wow. So Taylor, are you think of the same thing,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: perhaps a trip to Game five? Are you staying in
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: New York? Because they're one and ones that you arrived, so.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: I would do a little road trip at South South.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: You were in New York. I didn't even realize you
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: were in New York. You don't tell me you're in
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: town or here through the weekend. We gotta get together
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: for game five. I betrayed him.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Yeah, so people, no, sokoo where I am?
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: So?
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: Well, you didn't tell keep saying how long am I
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: in New York for? And I just keep saying, hopefully
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: the day after the parade?
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: But that parade?
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Well never return flight?
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but would you go to game five? Sal
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: wants to hang out for game five. He is not
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: specifying whether it's in New York or in San Antonio.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: I would like to go. Do you know anybody within
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: the zip code, the proper zip code that could get
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: us into San Antonio? I'd did to going. If not,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: you're more than welcome come over a little Watch party
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: at my house. Oh wow, Yeah you could come too
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: if you'd like.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: Oh wow, appreciate have a san Antonio person I had.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Have you hook you up?
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Have you run this little Watch party by your wife?
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Or no? No, I'm not a cut up in the moment, Stu.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: It's game five of the me and father. Doesn't that
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: she'll have to go out with her friends or something.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, were gonna have a party at my house.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: So the first time she's gonna realize you're having a
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: party is with Taylor and Mikey. A knock on the door,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: let me know that I'll pass, by the way.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: I hate to sound bougie sal Yeah, just send me
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: a picture of your your setup.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Put it this way. I will, I will, and I
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: guarantee you will be in once I send you the
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: picture to By the way, the out with the wife
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: is that well. I was gonna go to San Antonio.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: So it's either me and San Antonio and away for
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: the weekend, or me, Taylor, Mikey, whoever comes over and
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: hangs out watch the game.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you her preference. Okay, before you before
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: this discussion goes any further, it's you and San Antonio
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: for as long as you'd like to be.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: In San Antonio.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, take a couple extra days, you know.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't know if that's true, because
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: even in Saratoga, which is only a two and a
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: half drive away, I'm getting a call from her. Oh
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: there's a bad storm. The pool is cloudy. I go, Oh,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: there any big branches or something in the pool? Oh,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't see. I'm like, well, you
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: gotta get you gotta clean up if there's a big
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: stick or something like that. And then she's like, I
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: got locked outside. Like how do you get locked outside?
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: The back door locked itself somehow automatically? I go, It
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't lock itself automatically, would you do? And then why
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: didn't you just go in? Why didn't you use the
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: pass code to the garage? I don't know the past code?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Why didn't you text me. I left my phone inside.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, can I just can I bet the raise
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: watuna here? I'm trying to watch them.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I'm in Saratoga.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's the most needed you've ever felt. That
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: is true. Oh wait, she needs me.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is not for much, but she needs me to
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: get in from the door that she thinks is locked.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: It never locks. Oh, we need to change the garage code.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I need something to remember him. Wait, it's four numbers.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I've told you them a hundred times. You can't remember it.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, absence makes the heart grow fonder, Sally, you know
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: that's I mean, you go away more often.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: She'll see how.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Badly she needs you around the house.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: You know more, I think more. I think about it.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: We need to go to San Anto.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I want to go to just stay there in the
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: event that there's a game seven, you know, be there
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: for like a week.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Wait, so Fat Joe was there?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Are we certain that he brought DJ khaled as as
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: his plus one? Do we know that? Or was dj
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: khaled gifted a ticket? By the next What happened there?
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: So there's there's almost no way the Knicks gifted dj
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: kwed to ticket. I think he either bought the ticket
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: or Fat Joe brought him as his plus one because
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: they're they're pretty close. They were sitting right next to
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: each other. And the whole time I'm watching that, I'm
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: watching uh, DJ Cowed glued to his phone, and all
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I could think was where's Eddie Falcon.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Edie Falco deserves that seat. She was there during the
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Kevin Knox days. That's right, yep.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: All I'm thinking about is imagine being the guy that
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: has to sit next to Fat Joe and DJ Cowed.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: There's no room. There's no room there I'm sitting. You're
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: not getting an arm rest. You've got to You've got
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: to position your legs.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Funny.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Now, that's awful.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I was trying to make the joke rather than the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: plus one another one. I had to google first to
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: make sure that was DJ Kalled's song.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Thank You. That's the worst way to deliver a great joke.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I know one. I'm sorry, it's the only way. It's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: all I had, Mikey, I wasn't one hundred percent confident
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that it was in DJ Kallen. When did Jimmy Johnson
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: become a Knicks fit anyone?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: We were in Nick's Nicks merch too. That was a
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: weird Larry David was there, Yeah, that's right. Why are
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: the Miami guys there? Jimmy Johnson, n D J.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Kellett, Well, Jimmy Johnson would was Bob Craft's another one? Oh?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't even see Bob Craft. That's my mess.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I heard obviously you referenced it, which made me think
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: of it, But I didn't. I didn't see him there.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I noticed Larry David was there, right, some of the others.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: But who would have been worse than Bob Kraft in
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: terms of New York enemies? Like Tom Brady's pretty bad, right,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Like if he were.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Sitting Brady or Tez David Ortiz a big poppy court size,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: they would have been booed out of the building.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Those guys you think they were of those little white
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: wide receivers from the Patriots would have been just fine.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Pick one Edelman, Welker, Welker, whichever one you want.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Hogan, they're all the same guy. Well, Hogan wasn't as
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: good as the other two. Let's be honest.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, don't care.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: He was great at LAX, really he was great. Uh, Sally,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you nervous now because Nick fan So it's gonna be
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: a different feeling headed into uh, headed in to GA four,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: it felt like a celebration headed into game three. I
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: understand why nick fans are starving for this. You're up
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: to Oh you beat the Spurs two games on the road.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: No team has ever come back from this. But again,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: no team has ever had a player like Victor Webbin Yama.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: But you're gonna have a different feeling headed into game four.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: You're gonna feel alive. For lack of better term, Nick
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: fans are going to be nervous headed into that game
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: because they can now see a path where they're not
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: holding up the Larry O'Brien trophy at the end of
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the season.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was nervous for that exact reason going into
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Game three. And you know, sometimes like you're nervous, you're nervous,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: and then there's something that breaks that nerve, like okay, well,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: nervous about my first radio show or TV show, and
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: then you screw it up, and then it's like, okay, well,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: what's there to be nervous about. I already screwed up,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: So what's there to be nervous about? Now that they
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: already got hopefully the initial nerves out of the way
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: and the anticipation first Finals game in twenty seven years,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: maybe that pressure bubble popped a little bit. Maybe, I
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: mean maybe not for them, I don't know. For me,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I'm more okay, they lost the game. Now let's see
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: how they respond, while also acknowledging that if they lose
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: this series, there is no recovering For me as a
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: sports fan, that's it, Like, I can't recover from this one.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: So close you could taste it up to games to
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: none coming back home. This has got to be the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: year they've dominated this postseason, the thirteen straight blowing teams out.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: If the Knicks don't end up holding up that trophy,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and I still think they will, but if they don't,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I would be devastated. And obviously Game four is gonna
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: be huge in that you lose Game four, now you're
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: screwed best of three, with two of the games there
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: giving them real life, and now the pressure really is
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: back on the Knicks. I think this will be the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: game that determines the series, and I expect the Knicks
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: to win Game four.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I think nerves are fair if you're
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: a true fan of this team, like sALS said, earlier.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: You still have a ton of confidence in this team
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: because this team has fight. They've shown that they have
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: resolved this season. They show that they have heart this season.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: If you parachute in and yesterday was your sixteenth game
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: you've watched the season, yeah, you're more likely to resort
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: back to the Knicks are gonna nick yesterday was the
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: beginning of the end. You're looking on FanDuel, the Knicks
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: are minus one eighty four to win the series, still
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Spurs or plus one fifty four. For me, I'm nervous.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I'm confident the series could very much go either way,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: and there is a ton of basketball left.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: If it gets to too too how are you gonna feel?
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I mean just you gonna feel.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Defeated.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you don't want to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: think about it, I don't know. I know, I.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Don't know if I would jump ship fully, but I
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: think if it gets a two to two, I'm I
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: don't know how I can confidently say that the Knicks
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: are still gonna win.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I guess the only thing you could say is they
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: won games one end games two on the road. So
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, right, it's like the same thing that we're
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: saying about the Spurs and the series in general, on
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: how it twist and turned so many different ways over
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the course of seven games. I mean, can I see
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a scenario where the Knicks are, you know, tied to
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: two the series just keeps starting because all four games
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: were won by the road team, and then the Knicks
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: go to San Antonio and they started up again and
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: win game five. Yeah. I could see that because the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Knicks have shown me twice they could beat San Antonio
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: in their building.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: So also, sal, you can't jump ship if you're on
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: a flight to San Antonio. I don't think that's even possible.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent point. Excellent point. We got to look into that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: The series doesn't end until a home team wins a game.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: So are we saying, are we sent Yes, that's exactly right. Yes,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: this could be the rare series where where a home
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: team never wins a game. Right, I guess.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: That is true. It can end if it right?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just starts seven times over. Every night is
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: game one, So we're saying game four here is really
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: game seven. We all agree on this that if the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Knicks don't win Game four, they are not winning this series.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Mikey A do you agree, I don't real Okay, Wow,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I like it. I like them winning on the road.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, they see more thirty two? Yes, Taylor, what
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: do you think I have to win Game four? I mean,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: daylor this is a true test of your confidence as
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a Nick fan, because you shouldn't waiver regardless of the outcome.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: It's going to be two two or three one. I mean,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: if I told you before the series started you'd be
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: two to two headed back to San Antonio, would you
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: have taken it?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Probably? Probably?
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: So I'm not wavering, and I'm not labeling it a
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: must win. It's as close to a must win as
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: you could get without getting the official label of a
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: must win.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Okay. Also, can I can I just add one thing
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: to your point before too? It's about how it happens, right,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: So if you told me that it'd be two two
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: going back to San Antonio before the series, I'd be
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: okay with that. If you told me if the Knicks
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: had already won two games in San Antonio, and that
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: would mean that to go up three to two, you'd
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: have to beat them the third time in San Antonio, Yes,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that's where like I am a law of averages. Guy,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: when push comes to shove, right, beating a team on
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the road twice is hard enough three times in a row.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it can't be done right, And I
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: still believe the Knicks at worst of winning the series
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: in six, I'm gonna stick to Nickson five, but at
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: worse than six. But if they lose Game four, that
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: would mean you have to win three in a row there.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I would like those odds.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: What do you see differently, quickly before we get you
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: out of here, the Salakata Show, wherever you get your podcast,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: What do you see differently about the Knicks from Games
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: one and two into Game three? For me, the obvious
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: difference was Mikal Bridges gave them nothing and Karl Anthony
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Towns the offense stopped running through him, and it needs
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to run through him because that's been it's been proven
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: success for the Knicks when they run the ball through him.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And it's not Jalen Brunson just dribbling the ball trying
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: to get through four people to get to the basket, you.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, lack of ball movement, and that's to your point,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: you know, not maybe going through Towns enough so the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: lack of ball movement. To me, the number one thing
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: that stood out was the sloppiness. They were sloppy right
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: from the get go, and maybe you thought, all right,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: initial nerves here in game three returning home, they were
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: turning the ball over all game long. That can't happen.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: They need to protect the ball and shoot the ball better.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It's pretty simple. And a way to shoot the ball
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: better would be to have better ball movement, which is
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: something that they kind of got away from in Game
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: three and the officials sucked.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, there it is the official suck. We happy
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: for zephyrn for winning his first major at the French Open.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure who that is.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not certain how to pronounce his last name. Get
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: out of here, the Salacata Show, wherever you get your podcast.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: The Knicks are winning this thing, so don't worry about it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: They're gonna win it. Have confidence, have faith. Are you
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: even a Knicks fan? Yes? Okay, good, of course.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I was just why do you guys get so mad
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: at me?
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a Mets fan. You're not a Giants
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: a Jets fan, are you?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: No?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: See, That's why I asked I knew there was something there.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Who are you a fan of in football?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I don't even want to say the Atlanta Falcons, who
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: have the worst loss in the history of the Super
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Bowl hung on them. If I lose this one with
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the Knicks, I'm done. That's why I retire as a
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: sports fan.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I have the Falcons in my mind. That's why I listen.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: As bad as it is, it's the Falcons.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: At least it's not the Jets.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Okay,