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Breaking Down the New Mechanic in Altered TCG How It Changes the Game · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: I used to be the one they all love to
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  Speaker 1: hate on, but now I work hard and I never
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  Speaker 1: take a day off.
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  Speaker 1: It's nothing but its targets and I'm locked and loaded ready.
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  Speaker 1: the reason that it's read and put it back on
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  Speaker 2: the race car bed kind of, but it's a mouse form, right,
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  Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, I don't have my normal mouse.
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  Speaker 2: So like I'm pushing buttons that like aren't there because
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  Speaker 2: I'm used to having regular buttons.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you're used to having more buttons.
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  Speaker 2: And not only that, Like, it's it's really weird.
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, I gotta go fast? Right? But what's
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  Speaker 2: going on? Everybody? I am the one, the only w O. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: all the misfits. We got coal? Hello, everybody, Dexter is
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  Speaker 2: still here.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I did.
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  Speaker 2: we've never spoken. She just knows. I looked after you
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  Speaker 2: for like four days.
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  Speaker 3: I mean she went on a road trip this weekend
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  Speaker 3: and she listened to some of our episodes.
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  Speaker 4: No, did did she provide any feedback?
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  Speaker 3: No, She's just like I only hear you in two
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  Speaker 3: of them, and I'm like, well, I'm there, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, that's that's all she had to say.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all.
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  Speaker 3: I said.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank god she's not.
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  Speaker 3: At me talking. She doesn't care about anyone else.
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  Speaker 2: And to be fair and good on her, as she should.
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  Speaker 4: The right the episode I was missing, I was going
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  Speaker 4: to listen to with my partner in the car and
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  Speaker 4: she's like, wait, you're not talking on this and I
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  Speaker 4: was like, well, no, this is the one I missed.
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  Speaker 4: She's like, I don't want to listen to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Man, So I get it. Good on you too, because
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  Speaker 2: if Wookie is there, you shouldn't be listening to these episodes.
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  Speaker 2: But speaking of we have two members that are going
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  Speaker 2: to be taking a tiny benefit of sabbatical, mister Zach
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  Speaker 2: and mister z will be joining us again in the
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  Speaker 2: distant future. I'm sure I don't know what's going on
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  Speaker 2: with Zach, but I know Z's moving, so that's probably
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  Speaker 2: a big play into it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Zach is moving. Also, Wait, why let's both buy
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  Speaker 4: new houses at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I always used to give them shit that
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  Speaker 2: call them bosom buddies, right because they were both kind
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  Speaker 2: of losers, like whatever one does, the other does too.
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  Speaker 2: It's really bizarre and strange. I didn't realize they were
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  Speaker 2: both also now moving.
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  Speaker 3: They're buying houses together too?
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  Speaker 2: Are they buying?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Are they like next door to each other too? I thineah, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: of course they are. How cute? Oh boy, so they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be missing through.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did get confirmation that they will be there
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  Speaker 4: for the seventeenth if.
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  Speaker 2: That, what's the seventeenth.
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  Speaker 4: The seventeenth is when we're gonna do the full on
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  Speaker 4: just balls to the walls spoiler cast.
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  Speaker 2: And we got spoilers, guys, I'm lying, they don't care
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  Speaker 2: enough about us. We got no spoilers. Didn't you say
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  Speaker 2: they were giving away like seventy spoilers or seventy two
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  Speaker 2: spoilers or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good bit, but we didn't get him.
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  Speaker 2: Sixty eighty eight and they gave away sixty eighth, so
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  Speaker 2: we are not in the top sixty eight on their list.
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  Speaker 4: I think my email got lost in the tubes.
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  Speaker 2: Of they got put into the recycled bin is where
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  Speaker 2: it went more than likely. So out of all of
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  Speaker 2: the altered content creators out there, we are not in
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  Speaker 2: the top sixty eight. So make sure you like and subscribe,
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  Speaker 2: you know, all the things. Because we're not in the
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  Speaker 2: top sixty eight.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get us in the sixty eight first spoiler season.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there are I'm going to go out
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  Speaker 2: on a limb there and I'm going to say I
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  Speaker 2: don't think there are the what's that? Oh boy? I
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  Speaker 2: lost Cole. But anyways, I don't think there are sixty
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  Speaker 2: eight other podcast or content creators out there who can
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  Speaker 2: you name? We've lost everybody? Have I lost everybody? Call
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  Speaker 2: you there, deck, start you there.
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  Speaker 4: Now. The issue is is my intern breaking or is
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  Speaker 4: the wookie?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's your internet, sir.
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  Speaker 4: You way robot all of a sudden, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You're going, you're going robot on us. I got all bars.
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  Speaker 3: I no, I think you will here. Cole's still here
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  Speaker 3: for me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking at my cookie. What's happened? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at my connection and I got full bars,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I hear you know you're good.
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  Speaker 2: No, weird, We're gonna But but like I was saying,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's sixty eight sixty seven other altered
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  Speaker 2: content creators out there.
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  Speaker 3: No. A lot of the other people seem just like
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  Speaker 3: community members that are like involved, that like don't really
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  Speaker 3: produce content, but they're at least like doing stuff in
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  Speaker 3: the community.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there there are some names that we play with
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  Speaker 4: and work with. Keelon Guy is gonna have one coming up.
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  Speaker 4: Le e O of Yeah w Fame has one. His
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  Speaker 4: His videos have been doing really good lately and it's
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  Speaker 4: all been altered. Uh. Spook the boot that does some
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  Speaker 4: casting and stuff, a guy trying I met at Packed
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  Speaker 4: and he has a little spreadsheet for a lot of
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  Speaker 4: these spoilers. It's a pretty pretty big and on the
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  Speaker 4: website they do have a of everyone doing the reviews
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  Speaker 4: things like that, what happened with my I'm sure it
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  Speaker 4: could have a couple of different.
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  Speaker 2: Because you see it's not my Internet Discordinate. It might
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  Speaker 2: be Discord. My voice connection show is full good stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Discord notorious on the juice.
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  Speaker 2: None of you guys are drinkers though. But with that
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  Speaker 2: being said, we're we're not cool enough to get spoilers,
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  Speaker 2: all right. Arcon's Corner wasn't cool enough to get spoilers
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  Speaker 2: for a long time. And we do just fine. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: we do better than most, So we'll go from there.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully we can keep the internet rolling. Yes, chat, are
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  Speaker 2: we chopping? In and out? Are we chopping?
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm showing no incidents reported on Discord me neither.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not showing no incidents, no systems ago back to Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. So hopefully we can
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  Speaker 2: get through this episode. But yes, we will not be
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  Speaker 2: doing no Zach no z for the foreseeable future. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to do a full rundown on the seventeenth, and
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  Speaker 2: we'll kind of be going through that, all right. Who's
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  Speaker 2: got the Sigi unique? Oh, Ogre and Oger is not here?
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  Speaker 3: We can talk about this about this because I actually
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  Speaker 3: ran into this unique.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we'll have at it, sir, dex tour.
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  Speaker 3: So this is a foundry mechanic. It is a two
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  Speaker 3: from hand and two from reserve. It's got one grass,
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  Speaker 3: no earth, and two water. Then we look at its
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  Speaker 3: ability here, it's got when another non token character joins
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  Speaker 3: your expeditions, why are we moving it around? See what's happened.
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  Speaker 3: I got to create two or this one one one
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  Speaker 3: recruit soldiers in my expedition. And it also has a
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  Speaker 3: supportability for making the next permanent you play cost one less.
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  Speaker 3: So this is a strong ability because whenever you play
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  Speaker 3: any non token character, it makes two more tokens. So
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  Speaker 3: say we're on like eight MANA, you play this and
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  Speaker 3: you play three more people, we're generating six more tokens
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  Speaker 3: for free off of this guy. And then you can
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  Speaker 3: also put a charge on top of that. So these
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  Speaker 3: are definitely strong for ciggies. I've seen most of them.
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  Speaker 3: It's just create one recruit after you play a guy,
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  Speaker 3: but this one makes two, so that's even stronger. You
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  Speaker 3: don't really care about the stats. You just want something
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  Speaker 3: low cost that makes it whenever you play another guy,
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  Speaker 3: make tokens galore and that supportabilities.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, stats are fine, they.
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  Speaker 3: Love or it's good uniques and other in other war
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  Speaker 3: show me I've seen some real good yeizmere findle Harvester
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  Speaker 3: ship for a honest, where are my uniques? Bullied me
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  Speaker 3: quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Where where you don't have? Yeah, I don't have any,
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  Speaker 2: right exactly. Yeah, this game, I only.
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  Speaker 3: Have one good unique and I've opened over thirty, So.
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  Speaker 2: I have a robin Hood that I think is playable
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  Speaker 2: to an extent in my deck. And it's not even
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  Speaker 2: that good for my deck. Let's be honest. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: but it's it is. It is passible thinking of switching factions.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hm, but never never go to the dark side.
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  Speaker 3: Ortis is not the dark side. Ortis is the fun side.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoy my warroo much.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you?
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  Speaker 4: Do we do? We need to break down the philosophy
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  Speaker 4: here now that it's just us three on why Ortis
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  Speaker 4: is most certainly the dark side.
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  Speaker 2: I thought we already came to that conclusion and agreed
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  Speaker 2: upon it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I I was in a don't understand. Yeah, Okay, thematically,
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  Speaker 4: who is orders?
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  Speaker 2: They are bureaucrats, They're they're they're Congress. Right, They're they're
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  Speaker 2: they're the hard line. They're the man. That's who they are, right,
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  Speaker 2: exactly right.
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  Speaker 4: The soldiers, the freaking the man, the bureaucrats.
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  Speaker 2: They're the government bro.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, what is it? A O A B is
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  Speaker 4: all I'm saying. And uh as well, they're overpowered and
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  Speaker 4: have too many tools.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, like these uniques, Yes, like all their uniques. And
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  Speaker 2: you got crushed by some uniques with our why sucking
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  Speaker 2: keef or why a second altered, second altered brought to you,
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  Speaker 2: brought to you by Lemon Pledge, Lemon Pledge for all
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  Speaker 2: your cleaning needs, not a sponsor, but could be. So wow,
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  Speaker 2: how would you get crushed? That's your cue, dexter.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, I've been crushed by so many different uniques,
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  Speaker 3: but it's mainly those this one that we have here,
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  Speaker 3: this dumb ortist one where whenever you play a guy
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  Speaker 3: you make a token, or the dumb ortist ones where
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  Speaker 3: it's just a sand man ability on a little guy
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  Speaker 3: or a chargeability on a little guy. It's just these
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  Speaker 3: powerful effects on small characters that have no reason to
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  Speaker 3: be there. I've never opened a good unique like that,
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  Speaker 3: and I just keep getting beat up by those. And also,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, the spindle harvesters with the faunas, those
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  Speaker 3: are just brutal. I feel like in order to win
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  Speaker 3: at this point in arena, you have to have good
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  Speaker 3: uniques or else you're just going to get annihilated, which
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  Speaker 3: is what keeps happening to me. I have one good
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  Speaker 3: Quexocadal unique, and I only run wa Roue at this point,
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  Speaker 3: and that I can get some wins. But whenever I
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  Speaker 3: run into another deck that's running three solid uniques, I
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  Speaker 3: have no chance.
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  Speaker 2: How do you think every other faction feels.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they just need to get the uniques. Every faction
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  Speaker 3: has viable unique strategies. You just have to open them
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  Speaker 3: or buy them or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I just so I disagree you to be good. No,
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  Speaker 2: I disagree wholeheartedly on that completely, because at least, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I guess I could go with the landmark route of
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  Speaker 2: just winning the game if I do a thing. But really, like,
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  Speaker 2: there are no good Lyra uniques I've seen. I've seen
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  Speaker 2: a few that are like they're okay, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: think like they're not like this. They're not like game winning.
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  Speaker 2: They're not like, oh I just create you don't.
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  Speaker 3: You just have any super busted Lyral one, right, I
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  Speaker 3: have the best Lira one. Though they are really just
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  Speaker 3: like resupply, resupply, get guarded vantage.
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  Speaker 4: YEA. I was going to ask, is there even a
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  Speaker 4: type of unique that Lyra is seen as seeking out?
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  Speaker 4: So artists has tons of options for what uniques they
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  Speaker 4: want to use. Is mirror it depends. You know, it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be recycling spells or recycling jellyfish, those are
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  Speaker 4: going to be a really strong ones Muna, it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be anchor unique uniques, Bravos maybe boosts, but Lyra, I,
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  Speaker 4: I honestly don't know if I can remember or think
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  Speaker 4: of a target that Lira would specifically have where I've
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  Speaker 4: seen people buy three of them for their Lyra deck.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, I think removal uniques that you have
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  Speaker 3: access to in Lira that you don't want seeing any
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  Speaker 3: other factions. I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: I think right now, like your whole Lyra literally needs
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  Speaker 2: to just focus on the landmark and just win. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: The festival which ismark.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of a lot of festival is
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  Speaker 4: kind of I think what I see most often Finn
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  Speaker 4: has kind of fallen off and fall Yeah, I guess
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  Speaker 4: because Trace, you know, came out in favor once Warri
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  Speaker 4: was vinkershed.
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  Speaker 3: And I've been booting Finn with my Waru build recently,
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  Speaker 3: Like I didn't really change anything, but Finn just can't
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  Speaker 3: win anymore. Trace still trast is basically if you get
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  Speaker 3: your bastions early, you win. If you don't, you lose,
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  Speaker 3: which is why I don't like playing with Trace, because
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  Speaker 3: it's too swingy, which I don't like.
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  Speaker 4: The only game I won last night was against a
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  Speaker 4: Trace that for some reason didn't play Havens and haven't
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  Speaker 4: had a weird setup. At the end of the game,
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  Speaker 4: they did say that they had terrible draw I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: that's sous.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the same thing happened to me. I beat a
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  Speaker 3: Trace like that.
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  Speaker 4: They played brass Bug Hive, so I was like, what
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  Speaker 4: are you doing? And their their ability never got to
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  Speaker 4: five the game ended they were at two counters.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not how you want to be playing traced.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's necessarily a why I suck
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  Speaker 2: at Altered moment or if that's just like draw better,
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  Speaker 2: bro I guess. I guess in a good, good old
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  Speaker 2: ac vantage.
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  Speaker 3: Both, if you're building your deck bad, you suck at Altered.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just draw better.
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  Speaker 4: West will and the audience mentions plus one to dice
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  Speaker 4: roll mechanics for Lyra uniques. Yeah, that would be really
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  Speaker 4: good in Novenka, and Novenka is actually pretty viable for
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  Speaker 4: at least the top sixteen in like a sixty four
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  Speaker 4: person tournament. I think that's fair to say these.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder we haven't seen any major tournaments in the
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  Speaker 2: US really, right.
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  Speaker 4: Depends on what you consider major. I would say the
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  Speaker 4: most major was Packs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would too, but like something where a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people are conglomerating together, especially after the whole robin Hood.
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  Speaker 4: NERF Yeah, yeah, there was GGA Z but I think
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  Speaker 4: collectively Packs had more people. And it was after robin
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  Speaker 4: Hood and there was let me pull up my notes here,
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  Speaker 4: there was an Avenka that made it.
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  Speaker 2: It was top eight or no, top eight, I remember it.
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  Speaker 2: I remember you talking.
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  Speaker 4: About it as Storm of Roar was Yeah, which was
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: actually Zared. I haven't seen Zared in a while. Hope
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: he's a maybe he's taken a break after playing for
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  Speaker 4: three days straight.
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  Speaker 2: It's the holidays, bro right. Christmas and New Year's are
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: always big times. I think every game takes a dip
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  Speaker 2: right around now, just because it's like holidays everyone's travel, travel, travel,
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  Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, and you know usually February kicks things off again.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, I'm in the camp of the meta is a
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  Speaker 4: lot different past month than it was back in October.
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  Speaker 4: But maybe I'm just crazy.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think you're crazy at all. I think
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  Speaker 2: especially after Robin Hood and NERF, I mean people are
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  Speaker 2: people started playing around with stuff because when you are
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  Speaker 2: the meta, everybody that's not playing the meta is trying
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  Speaker 2: to beat the meta. And then now that that's not
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  Speaker 2: the meta anymore, you got to redefine it and kind
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  Speaker 2: of go from there.
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  Speaker 3: I can still win games with my Waru.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, is still very good. I think we've already talked
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  Speaker 2: about this, like it's still good. I think a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people like, oh, Robinhood and Wau's not the meta
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  Speaker 2: and everybody jumped to another faction right away, or like,
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  Speaker 2: oh this is viable now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think people who are okay with playing artists
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  Speaker 4: or switch to Siggy, which is fair, but the warrior
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  Speaker 4: ability is just too good. It's basically like you can
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  Speaker 4: play a Kodama whenever you want, and if you think
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  Speaker 4: of it that way, like only.
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  Speaker 3: For your bureaucrats, you have some non bureaucrats in there
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  Speaker 3: only for bureaucrats.
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  Speaker 2: Right, let's get into the new mona ideas.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so since we only have three on the cast deck,
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  Speaker 4: construct might be a little different. So I'll just throw
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  Speaker 4: out some ideas I've been working on with ERNA. They
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: will probably only work for the next couple of weeks
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: because Trial by Frost is probably gonna shake everything up.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think got to run those landmarks for
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Trial by Frost.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there is a Yeah, I think there's
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: a strong case to be made for no hydra Muna.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: And the basic concept I've been working on is flooding
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: the board with as many plants as you can. If
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: you have really good anchor uniques, this will work perfectly.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Which we actually saw a Tasia at packs that had
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: three anchor uniques and went did really well at Packs
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: made top four and Top two a couple of times.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I am still working on my iteration of its kind
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: of funny. The first version I made of it did
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: better than the like sixth one is doing. I think
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I've just been tinkering too much. But it also teaches
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: me a lot. As Jim Bringer likes to mention in
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: the audience. I did get absolutely wrecked last night, but
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: we were we were editing the deck on the fly.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Was last night.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I was streaming since we did Yeah, since we didn't
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: do the cast. So if you want to watch some
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: altered gameplay and also pasting of the Ace events on Tuesdays,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: just Altered Corner on Twitch.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: And get us into the top sixty eight of altered
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: content creators.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think we'll give it another run. But basically,
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: no permanence. You run all of the good plants. If
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: you have anchor uniques, you run those which I have
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: an Esmeralda that's pretty good. And then we are kind
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: of toying around with Tyron and o gun and it's
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: it works pretty well. I did put out a way
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: too long video on YouTube, so if you just start
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: cooking with coal or muna altered dex or something, you'll
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: probably find it. But it has been fun. I think
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: it's been more interesting than just trying hydra every time,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: because what I noticed when I was running hydra is
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: people just kept nuking my landmarks and the nuking the
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: hydra and it didn't even matter.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so go over to cooking with coal subscribe to
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: that channel. Get us some of the top get us
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: some of the top sixty eight of altered Content creators.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Dexter, have you played against any tasias a lot
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: that run Hydra.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, seems like whenever they play Hydra, I either just
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: double move on that turn and then after that I
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: have enough to but where I can win, or I
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: just pop the hydro immediately. So yeah, and it is
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: me running Wauru, which has access to sticky note Yeah,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: and key one burst for the the tree.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: And see the thing that was that my worst my
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: worst matchup statistically is Siggy, which has access to all
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: of that.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: So so for those of you take the notes at home,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: makes sense.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Siggy is very good, that is true. But you can
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: never tempt me to the dirty bestard. We have cookies,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, but I have a very specific diet, so
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: I don't think they're the right kind of cookies. Probably
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: full of.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: They always are. They're always the right of cookies.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: They're not really full of cocaine and bar bills.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Those are the those are the best cookies. Don't don't
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: let your mom listen to this episode.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, that's that's where I'm at with Muna
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: right now, I will hopefully be cooking up some new
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: stuff and Trial by Frost. But I think between now
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: and then it's just kind of hold steady, maybe plan
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: for the new cards, and we are edging ever closer,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: we are edging the audience. We have two more things
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: to talk about before we raise actually talk. Let's trial
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: by Frost mechanics.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: So all right, we do have the marketplace. I have
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: not gotten anything, and you know what, just go buy stuff.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be here for a while. Events you got
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: ace a wall kaylon A. We'll return on the seventh,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: So by the time you're listening to this, it's already back,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: or it's going to be back that night. I think
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be back that night. So go listen to
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: the eight. Oh god, I'm gonna die. Go listen to
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the as I just had a real big cop. Go
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: go support our our our boy, Klon Kon Klon guy.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: What what what? Okay?
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: It was rookie that's dying. What's happened to Yeah?
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden dexter just like maybe
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I'm dying too. I don't know, do I have a
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: stroke and then a wall and ace for us. But
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: let's get into the new, the new stuff coming out
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: and trial by Frost. I was reading this while you
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: guys were kind of going through your stuff. I find
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of this very interesting to now find out that, yeah,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I just might need to move on from Fenn because
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: most of this stuff just kills the deck. So first
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: thing I was out, I mean, they did release a
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: couple of landmark permanence, which is nothing new really.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, So the group of landmarks that are new,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: the gar are the gear is is kind of different.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: So there's landmarks which are going to be your permanence,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: like your spindlemon Abastian or your you know, your baba'szba.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: They're the things that go in the lower right of
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: your playmat if you're looking at a play mat. And
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: you'll also notice on the play mats that they've said
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: landmarks this entire time.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Oh I didn't. Oh yeah, pause, keep going Vexter.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Vexter is also dead, but I'll just continue to talk
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: here for a moment.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Oh yeah, sure does.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: The Yeah. So this is a quick side note, but
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: there was also a rada to bring all of the
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: permanence that are in the game now up to current
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: and some people were kind of upset with the wording
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: change and they were asking if like new cards were
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: going to be printed in YadA YadA, when I mean,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: this could not be true. But in my mind it
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: is very obvious that the only reason it was an
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: errata is because if it wasn't displayed that way before,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: it would have been a spoiler.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: So for those for those of everybody, what was the errata?
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Oh man? Can I even explain it? I think the
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: best way to explain it is on Haven, So I see.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: The problem is is I don't really care about it,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: so it also doesn't bother me. But there was a
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: wording change where all of the permanents now say permanent
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: dash landmark or something when they didn't before. It was
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: It's very minimal, and.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't think it was a big thing. I guess
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of confused at the outrug, Like, I know
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: people were upset though it was I do pay attention,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: but I was like, but why does it? Why is
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: this a big deal? I was very confused as to
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: why that was a bit major thing.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think people were maybe reading too much into
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: it and thinking that it would change how cards target them,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: but as of now, I don't think that's true. I
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: just remember in my mind I was like, ah, this
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: isn't really a big deal to me, but to some
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: people it was. So Jimbringer says, I think the new
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: wording is landmark permanent dash insert thing here. If we
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: look at one of the frozen ones, it might say it, yeah.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Permanence sites.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can go look at some of the spoilers.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll be talking about them on the seventeenth.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: They other landmark permanent site because basically short and skinny
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: if you look at it right, you're going to have
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: like the Landmark Permanence, which will go into your normal
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: landmark zone. But then you're going to have your Expedition Permanence,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: which will which will go into your lane like it
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: goes on the expedition itself.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Yep, And a lot of those are currently called gear.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you know. This whole expansion is all about
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: traveling into the frozen tundra. Basically, they put out a
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: trailer a couple of days ago and it kind of
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: hints that they're like going to look for something frozen
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: in the Eye. Yeah, so there might be.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: An There is definitely already a nice queen there.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: There is, there is, and I can on the spoiler
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: cast give you some maybe some secret.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: There there's already an Elsa. Her name is Scottie. You
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: can go read this article if you want. That's I
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: don't care what you say. That's als.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Well, there is there is a card called the Snow Queen.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: But really I wanna I wanted to bring this up
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: because I after we kind of take a look at
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: these new mechanics, I wanted to see how you guys
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: think it's going to change the competitive landscape and what
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: kind of new ideas it has spawned for you.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I definitely think the landmarks that spawned dragons will be
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: interesting to play with, especially the moona one. It just
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: anchors the dragon. So there will definitely be some strong
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: permanence with spawning tokens, and just token generation in general
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: will be more commonplace because now more factions have access
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: to it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean looking through these, I mean even
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: more I was I like Lyra. I'm I'm gonna stick
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: with Lyra like I'm always gonna have like my pet
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Lyra deck it might just end up being the Venka now,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: which is fine. I love Noveka from the beginning. She's
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: what got me into the game because I was like,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: you know what, it's a cool mechanic. I really like it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Like I know it's never gonna be like fully fully
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: fully ever like super competitive. Weirdly enough it has become
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: right like it's strange. I might end up moving more
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: towards h oh, sorry, yeah.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: You put your phone close to your.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what a I'm sorry, I can't hear. I'm moving
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: through a tunnel. I can't.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: So the way that I would break down just the
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: mechanics real quick is you have the gear, which we
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: already kind of talked about that can be you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: expanded to all sorts of stuff. But the main things
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: are we now see exhausted in reserve. So if a
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: card is exhausted in your reserve, you can't play it
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: out of your reserve.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: And it has a quick effect.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Correct, But there are benefits that we've seen that come
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: from exhausted cards. So that's one thing there. The landmark
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: switch Texter already talked about. It's kind of like I
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: said it and forget it, you know, five five five
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: dragon creator. I think some of them are definitely better
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: than others. The other big thing is there's a lot
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: more movement between the reserve, the expedition, and your hand
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: with things like the slide of hand card and then
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: move or do a certain thing when in blank sub
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: zone card. So that is like if I am in nature,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: then I do this, or yes, my expedition is nature
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: plus what else.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: It already is so or like if mine is water,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: then your opponents is only water or something like that.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so the first thing that it sparked in me
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: is exhaust and reserve is huge.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, like you just cannot play it for that And
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: there's no unexhausting yet.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Well that we've seen that we've seen.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The thing is is it kind of goes both
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: ways because it's a it's a negative thing for a
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: lot of decks, but there's all so a chance where
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: it can.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Be a very positive thing.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: So I I think there is going to be potential
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: for a deck or two to come out where that's
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: their whole concept is just exhaust everything.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: If I feel like exhausting, the reserve is gonna be huge.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know why, like just knowing how much we
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: play from reserve, like just track your stuff, like your
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: reserve your hand and that's like you're especially for fun.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I play a lot of shit from the Yeah, I
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: play a lot of stuff from there if you tap
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: it down and say no, no, especially like knowing like
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: what's in like basically that's part of my hand, right,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: that's that's part of the cards I plan on playing
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: this turn. You know, things like uh, you know, like
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: like the ala Vera's where you're like, I'm sorry, not
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the Aurable. The ink masters were like, I'm bouncing stuff
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: around so I get more plays out of it. Actually,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the card just became better now that I can take
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: it into hand. But hey, with a lot of story
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: short like tapping down, like you're like, hey, what's your
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: best card in your reserve, you don't get you don't
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: have the ability to play that this turn.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: That yeah, I mean it's mostly just a weaker version
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: of sabotage.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Though, true. Yeah, but it really hits every faction right
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: like hard yes, yep.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: So one of the one of the really good things
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: about this is Muna has essentially zero sabotage. The only
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: card it has access to is Axiom Scrambler, which is
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: really hard to justify. In MUNA, it is getting access
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: to a card called like dong dashin which allows, when
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: played from anywhere, to exhaust a target card.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: A little pricey, a little pricey four. That Fittnemona deck.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Is the moon of one four or is it three?
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I know the arts one is four.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it might still be four, but just another option.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: That's close.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: It's a bureaucrat. I love seeing a bureaucrat.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: It's a bureaucrat. Deity.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the west Will says the rare moona is three,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: which I thought, and then yeah, Jack Frost, things like that,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: and then even expanding upon the whole exhaust thing is
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: there's also exhausted resupply, so.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Which nullifies quets, which is a pain?
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Does it?
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: It does? It is a different form of resupply.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: How did you figure out? How did you find that out?
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Are you guessing?
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Because I was playing with my quets against another deck
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: in the test server, and uh.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: They say any of that and that.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Well, exhausted resupply exists. Y'all can know this, the exhausted
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: resupply and I had a quest and it did nothing.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is really awesome. To know. Uh, that's cool
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: that you had that dream.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: So there's just gonna be a big beep. Can we
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: stop talking about it now? None of y'all heard that. Dexter, dexter, dexter.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: All right, so I'm lost now, okay, Gear, that's where
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: we were. Yeah, I totally got lost on all of that,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: and I'm just like Dexter, dexter, dexter, shut up, shut up,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: shot shot shot.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: I think I think we're all on the same page
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: with the exhausted resupply and exhausted cards being huge.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do like that. It seems like the art,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: at least from what we've seen thus far, so the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: art seems to be just very icye right, Like, it
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: seems like everybody is going in that same direction except
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: for Lyra. Somehow it's gotten more extravagant and out there. Yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I point you to winter outfits from Starfit. No bad weather,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: just bad clothes. Actually, I like this card. I don't
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: know if it's going to find a home in anything,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: but I do like it.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: So the fact that it's only one mana and how
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: gear works is as you said earlier, you just pop
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: it into the expedition. It does not leave until the
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: expedition actually gets to move forward. Right, So for one
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: mana Winter Outfits is really good, And I don't know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: I like the idea of hard options where if I
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: don't have many good characters to play, I can just
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: throw it out and forget about it until it comes
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: into play. The ice Bound Permanence is kind of like
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: that with some of them. Winter Outfits kind of the same. Now,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: obviously that doesn't speak to justifying putting it in a deck,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: but I like, I like the idea of it from
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: that standpoint in my mind.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it seems like, yeah, this set's gonna be
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of where we now play. Oh, man, I
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: don't know, like, do you feel like this is gonna
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: slow the game down a bit? Or do you feel
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: like like I don't know, like I feel like there's
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: gonna be I feel like there's going to be someone
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: who gets a control build. I don't know who it
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: is yet. Oh, don't say that someone's getting a control
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I hate to tell you, and I hate to tell you.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling I know who it is, starts
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: with or and ends and dis like I just get
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: to feel like none of their heroes really fit that mold, right,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: But I feel that I don't know why, I feel
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: it in my bones. But if I had to guess
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: who is getting the the the control beld, I don't
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: know why I feel like that's who it would be.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that if you just look at
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: it from a high level standpoint, it adding any more
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: interaction across the board into the game, just in some
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: way is possibly strengthening control decks like you're very annoying
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Akesha or a funess if they go that route or
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: even linked away. So I mean it's possible. Well, I
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: think there are also things that are speeding up the game,
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: so maybe it, you know, equals out in the end.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see. I I just I feel like
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I see all this just exhaust cards at reserve and
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: knowing that Okay, so now that card can't be played
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: and has no supportabilities, so I can't like turn through
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: any of them. Oh yeah, by the way, Also for Lyra,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: most of our manna comes from our reserve on quick abilities.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Most of the manna for Lyra because we have the
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: ability to a lot of our things have a quick
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: ability or next thing costs one less less. Yeah, that's
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: that's now possibly gone. I can't use those, so that
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: whole ramping thing that we once had probably not a
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: thing anymore.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Ye, Lyra definitely has a lot of interaction with going
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: between reserve.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: And going between reserve hand and over here. There's a
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: zone that you don't even know about that exists in Lyra.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: But I'm making that up, like, but you know, yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: One one of the things that I called out, though,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: is there are more cards that interact in that way,
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: and Lyra does have access to one of the ones
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: that we've seen, So maybe maybe.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Man did y'all well, any of y'all ever play Legend
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: of the Five Rings, the old card game. No, not
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: not the one made by FFG, the one made by
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: man who made that. I don't even remember who made that.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like Lyra's the Dragon Clan. Somebody will chime
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: in and be like I used to play that back
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: of the day, You're awesome. The Dragon Clan was this?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: They were They were always like jack of all trades,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: master of none, like they did everything okay, so therefore
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: they were okay. But they didn't do like any one
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: thing great.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Lyra has some sleep, some anchored, some reserve stuff.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like they got a little right, like we could.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: We can't make tokens, no, but like we could do
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit of everything, right, like we can. We
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: could do some sleep, we could do some anchored. We
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: can do some of this, We could do some of that.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: We could blow some things up. We could do some
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: of them. But like we don't have like a full
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: man you know what they're They really are the hippies, right,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: like they do they don't do anything great, but they're
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: kind of cool, right like they have they have no
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: they have no real goal or like structure or like
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: way they're headed. But like they're they're kind of cool.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I mean they are the artists. They all just got
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: an art degree and then have no idea what to do.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't know. They don't know what they're doing
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: after college, right, Like, yeah, they might take a year
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: off travel Europe. Who knows?
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: So I I cannot. I don't think it's uploaded in
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: the database yet. But slide of Hand is one of
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: the cards I was talking about where it allows you
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: to interact back again with your reserve. Uh, so that
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: that is a thing we're going to see more of.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: But something you mentioned about the winter outfits. And I've
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: seen a lot of discussion about the art on this card.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: I would just say, take a look at the card. Yeah,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: take take a look at what it looks like and
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: just imagine real life.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: And I've already been there. I was told I had
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: to sign a document supplied to me by mister Cole
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Robbie himself that said Wookie will not say Lude or
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: bad things on the show.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I did not say anything about Lude's flush.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: It's a flashlight.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: That is not where I was.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Sorry, that's totally where I went. Where were you at
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: it all that?
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: I'll spell it out here. Okay, it looks it looks
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: like an advertisement, right yes, and store Fit sounds like
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: a store, right Yeah. Okay, that's that's all I'm going
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: to say, because that, to me is exactly why that
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: art is that way, and it's not. To me, it's
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: not weird because it has a point.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: We don't have to explain it to me later.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: We just don't well I mean, I don't. I just
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: know that there is a point and we will see
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: it eventually.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Are you talking like there's a point?
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: Like yeah, yeah, Like the store exists called store Fit
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: where this winter outfit is purchased.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I totally haven't seen it yet. I totally
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: went real world and was like, why would you put
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: this on a card, especially with the little white stuff
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: at the bottom, just saying I don't I don't know
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: if that was playing or if the submit how this
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: made it past the art director. But I am open
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: and available for contracting. Uh, as long as you put
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: us like in the top sixty eight for.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: That's our that's our goal for twenty twenty five.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Goal for twenty five, get into the top sixty eight
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: of content creators.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: The doom Bringer in the audience brought up a good
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: point about maybe in Trial by Frost we'll see less Fen,
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: but we'll see maybe more Arak and Novenka.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: You will not say, you will not see not having.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: You, you will, you will, I will say. The whole
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: point of this set is to provide support for heroes
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: who did not have it before, and that is something
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: that Justin has publicly set.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: So that is also why heroes for gol ring, no
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: bull ring. This is dumb for I'm so tired of blue, right,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: like I moll or blue or blue? Yeah? Like that
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: weird counterspell control player at the table that nobody likes,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: like just go home?
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: What uh? What is? They have a list of the
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: heroes that you can get in try by Frost booster
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: packs and I'll read this list and this will give
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: you a hint towards who might be getting more support.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Some of these are still included just because they're good
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: for draft or you know, they're just coming back, but
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: some of them are specifically in this set because they
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: have more support. So of the twelve returning heroes, there
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: is Sierra see bash Kojo, Sira, a Rack, finn Our, June, Rinismar,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: bring Kesha, and a Funnest. I don't know why Linda.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know why Lindaway isn't one of them?
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Why is war not here? The whole thing they literally
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: had it was so good they had to Why why
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: would he be here? Nobody knows?
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: But why is the faunas here not Lindy?
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Well, that that's why I gave. That's why I gave.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: The Siggy is just really good for draft, and of
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: course they want to make drafts still fun. But reading
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: the list did make me wonder why Lindaway isn't there,
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: and maybe.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Maybe had Bravos here here either the five costs or
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: more one they put the what's up?
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, so they're gonna start putting you know, should cover
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: these news articles more often, being a kind of a
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: news show. Weird, No, it's so I always wondered. I
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: was like, man, when are they going to do something
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: with the adventure cards? Like obviously we're going into there's
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: gonna be a new well, but they're they're new, but
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: they're all the same, right, like yeah, the arts changing
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: because I always thought like, man, are they ever going
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: to change like the adventure path, right, like shake it
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: up a little bit or like do something with that,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: like or or have it so that like you can
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: have like a little like one of the heroes is
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: able and this is all like pie in the sky stuff, right,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Like this is just me spitballing because I don't sleep
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: at night, so I come up with stupid stuff like this.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: So like you know, like all of a sudden, they're like, oh,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: you know, take an adventure card from wherever you know,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: from out of the game and replace this adventure card
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: with this adventure card and that's the that's now the
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: adventure right, So like it would change it from like oh, man.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Not it was water, but now it's I know there's
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: a card that's already doing it. Please don't tell me that.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I'm well aware that what is what is that card called?
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: It's is it a moona card? I think it might
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: be a whatever. You didn't know it either, so I do.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: It just says my my region is forest in addition
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: to its other types. Okay, so that's not replacing it,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: but kind of.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: The rare does replace it for your opponent. Okay, but
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: I yeah, I think I think it would be really
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: cool in the future if there was just a card
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: that was like landslide or something and it's like flip
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: to uh to tumult cards with each other. That'd be
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: like that, right, very wild?
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like something something wild or something. Just kind
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: of throw that in there. I don't know. They do
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: also give us a slot comparedon or what's going to
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: happen in your slots, which I fully I enjoy. It's
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: in the newest article that was just released not too
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: long ago. So slot one will be your hero, Slot
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: two through nine will be your common, ten, and eleven
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: will be your rare. Slot twelve will be a unique,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: thirteen will be token adventure man, a covered boiler, common rear,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: all that fun stuff.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: So this is the newest.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be the slots. Well, yeah, it's the newest.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: One came out on January yesterday. Came out yesterday. I
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: see even gave me. It gave you things like your
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: official release date and your pre re So question, I
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: got a question for you, since I'm not really into
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: the heavy and I'm still I'm a nube over here, right,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: still does alter to have so it's got a pre
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: release date and that's got a street legal date. Does
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: it have a tournament legal date or is it character
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: out you are able to bust them into your decks
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: and start playing in major events with them.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, technically there is not a official tournament
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: season yet. That's supposed to start this year, and I
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: think it'll start near the end of this set and
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: right before set three. Maybe I know that they are
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: specifically working to the best of their ability to make
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: it so it's not like a set changes in the
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: middle of you know, some really important rights. Yep, because
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: I talked with Justin about that and that was definitely
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: something they're watching out for. But I think the real
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: answer to that question is is when the cards go
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: live on BGA, Because right now, all of the tournaments,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: and all of the most popular tournaments I would say,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: are run through BGA. I would guess the thirty first
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: is you know, everything is released and it's Trial by
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Frost season, and then tournaments that you know are running
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: their own tournament are going to be whatever rules they
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: decide and however they want to do it.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I do dig the fact that this is one of
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: the things that I I was like, oh, that's cool,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: and I didn't say anything about it that they're going
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: to be releasing the So a big part for me
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: being still kind of new to the like stuff like
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: getting your hands on alter, it's a little tough for me.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe not in your area, but like for my area,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: like it's magic or nothing, right, Like you got some magic,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: you got some Pokemon for like the littles. Maybe you
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: find even yu gi Oh is like not really like
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: easy to find. More Kana's not easy to find. Like
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: if it ain't magic, it ain't nothing to a lot
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: of the game stores by me. So even though I
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: opened a bunch of product, I didn't have a starter
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: deck at this I bought a starter deck. I don't
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: know where it went. But I had a starter deck
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: and I don't know where it went, So I didn't
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: have the adventure cards. So now that they're putting them
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: in the boosters, I like that. I'd like that you're
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: able to get into a booster and actually get those,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: you know, open a box, you more than likely, I'm
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: sure have have the adventure track. So I thought that
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: was kind of a big upside, at least for me,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: because getting stuff for me is tough.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Sure, it's definitely cool for people getting into the second set.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: If they're like new, then don't ask starter kits. They
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: just give those adventure tracks.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to have you bring one up to me.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: We're crying out out. I'm like, hey, can you give
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: me a starter? I don't have any adventure tracks, so,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: The article kind of specifically points out a little note
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: on that as well. It says the Beyond the Gates
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: starter decks will basically take you through until set four,
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: So ok yeah, it's another good reason that they're including
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: them in boosters because there won't be new starter decks.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so they're not planning on releasing new starter
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: decks until set four.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: Huh, yeah, that's what the article says.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Crazy so.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: And and Dorivian in the audience also made a good
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: point about changing Tumult cards would require a lot of balancing.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying like do this tomorrow, Like I'm
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: just saying it'd be kind of cool, Like this would
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: be a cool Like here's the thing about Wookie ideas.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: And I know a lot of you don't know me
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: from Jack I I think they're great and in theory,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: like when you think about them, you're like, oh, that's
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: kind of cool. That'd be an interesting thing, but when
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: you put them to the test, they're terrible. Ideas like
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Alliance lookie, oh my god. Yeah, I created a format
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: and key forge and it's it's some people love it.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: You got to give it that. Some people are they
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: love it. Not many, but like you know, I try
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: like the spice. You don't like to spice things up
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: a little bit every now and again, you know what
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I see people mention Alliance a good
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: amount in the art con server, So I mean that is.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Are for it.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: That is a testament to uh your abilities. But it
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: brought up a good thought in my mind or I
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: guess a good comment with talking a lot, and I
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: watch basically any interview I can get my hands on.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: I watched the Trickster interview with Justin and I watched
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: THEE It wasn't Uh, it wasn't Trickster, was it? Or
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: was it that just interviewed the lead game designer for
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: Trial by Frost. I think his name is Charles. I'm
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna be sorry.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Charles in charge their point of.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that one, that one did go over.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: You've never heard of Charles, Charles in charge of our
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: days and dexter. I don't expect to get it, but no,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I do not know somebody in the channel be like,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: I remember that show You're awesome?
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: But uh. They their whole point of the first couple
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: sets was to slowly get everyone into and build up
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: their you know, knowledge of the mechanics for all and
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: because of that, they actually moved some of the cards
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: that were intended for Set one into Trial by Frost
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: or further so that they weren't throwing too many mechanics.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Oh at that time. I do like that, because I
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: will say games that like, I hate to keep going
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: back to key Forge. But that's that's where we are.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: That's the game I play the most. Like key Forge,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: every set has a new mechanic, right, and and for
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: a while, like Magic kind of did the same thing.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: It felt like it was a new mechanic all the time. Like,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know, keep keep keep a mechanic, and and
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: focus on that mechanic for a good two three sets, right,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: then introduce some new stuff, right.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: I like the gear I dig it. I don't know
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: if it necessarily needed to be in set too. Maybe
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Set two could have been a little more focused on,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: you know, like boosting up some of those heroes that
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: that weren't seeing play and balancing the meta a little bit,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: which is tough to do because with how games are designed,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: you're normally like a year out right, So like this
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: set was probably designed about this time last year, if
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: not further out than that, it was probably two years
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: ago at this point. So it's tough. You know, game
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: designers and all their passion, like they try to make
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: something that is that is fair and balanced, and then
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: we players come along and we just break that shit, right,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Like that's just what we do. We're like, oh, this
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: is busted. And then like just find a way to
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: just take advantage of it as much as we can.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: I think we did do a really good job balancing
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: the first set Ortis is strong, but other than that,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: everything is pretty balanced and there are many viable here.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so if we just ban all of Ortis, right,
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: we'll have a good meta.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Not crazy, would that be like tomorrow? They're just like, yeah,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: all of Ortis is banned, just like.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: I will not say where it was mentioned or what
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: it was mentioned about, but there was already a comment
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: along the lines of oh yeah, there's gonna be a
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: change or two were a ban of a card in
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: Trial by Frost no doubt.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: So really, well, yeah, it's it's just.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: Like you're saying, though, like this set has been for
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: the most part, you know, set for since before Set
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: one officially released in September.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I just I always like games that kind of they're
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: like they build, but it's that slow turn, right, like
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: kind of like, hey, you know, here's Set one, and
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: then Set two is like, all right, we know we
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: fucked up, so here's here's the here's what we're doing
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: to fix it, right, or it's normally Set three that
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: fixes the fuck ups. But you know, but here's set two,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: which kind of expands upon those. Maybe it's like, Okay,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: maybe we didn't give enough love to this character, that
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: character which you should be able to see, right, you're like,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: oh man, we didn't give enough love to Ara, you know,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: like they didn't you know, we'll throw some cards in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: her to like spice that up and and more focus
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: on those characters, you know, and that Sets three is
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: your your forgiveness set, right, like, oh man, we really
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: screwed the pooch on these things, so let's fix all that.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: But that typically creates more problems. So then you have
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: another set right, and that does some things, and then
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: like set five is like the next apology tour. We're like,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna fix all this stuff, and that
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: normally creates more problems. So in set seven, you know,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: keeps going like that, right, we go on these hills
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: and valleys tour where it kind of just I don't know,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: that's that's I kind of I kind of dig that.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: But just throwing too much at your fan base too quick,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's always a recipe for disaster.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's one of the reasons that I
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: latched onto altered so well is I think I started
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: at a really good time. You know, before the game
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: was even released. I started learning it. But also it
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: was so easy to pick up. But at the same time,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: it's not like an easy game.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah I learned, but like impossible to play perfectly, which
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: is great.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I really appreciate the fact that it
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: is or now simple, and they're trying to keep that
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: in mind when they release new sets and build slowly.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: I really appreciate that, and then that that is one
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: of their goals. I know for sure from talking to
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: them and watching these interviews and the other thing I'm
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: pretty sure Charles talks about it in here is a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: lot of the mechanics for Tribaly Froust are thematic, like
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: they wanted to release cards and mechanics that make you
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: feel like you are trudging through an icy like hard
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: you know, expedition.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Why you're right, You're right. That's why the games kind
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: of seems like it's slowing down. That that makes sense thematically. Sure,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: that's not my style. I mean, there there are plenty
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: of people who love the mattics and games. I know
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: you got to keep that in there because people. People
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: like the lore, people like the theme, people like the the immersion.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: It's not for me, but that's not saying it's not
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: for everyone, right, So yeah, I mean people people like
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: people like art. I don't realize half these cards have
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: art until I'm like, hey, look at that art.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: I'm now mad that one of these art choices is
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: that the common has skis and then the rare has snowboarding,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: because I think that skiing is superior. But I digress.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: You're a lot easier than snowboarding, so it makes sense. Sure,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: I mean we can we can have this conversation.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: We can have.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: It's a lot harder to It's a lot harder to
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: learn how to snowboard, but it's a lot easier to
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: master how to snowboard as well. Like, once you have
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: down the basics for snowboarding, which are very difficult to learn,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: you can snowboard.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Well, you guys have no idea how weird.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Initial learning curve. But it's harder to master skiing. That's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: what I'm gonna say.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: I just want to for all the audience at home. Yeah,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: we go off on tangents, but.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: That's why we I but he did this out the
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: other day. We might not.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Be crazy the.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: Most polished, altered podcast, but we are most.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Certainly the most fun Yeah. Funny yeah, But the most
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: funny part about this is I live in Wisconsin. I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: have never skied nor snowboarded. Both these boys live in Texas.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Then exist, Okay, I was like, the snow even just
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: about you guys, how do you ski or snowboard?
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: I gotta go to Colorado?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodnesses, so uh.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: Utah is basically the best snow on earth. That's like
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: their literal motto. I will say I was I could
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: never afford to go skiing or snowboarding frequently, but I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: have done both.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, please tell me these little snow demons
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: are part of the game.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: Uh, we have not seen them yet.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: They need their own cow? And why do I cling
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: onto the weird things? In the background, there's also a carden.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: There's also a cardon in key Forge that I'm like,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: why did so's it's it's a fish dude, right, but
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: he looks like a dog squeak toy And I'm like,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: why does he not have his own card? And I
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: feel like and I now need these little snow demon
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: dude characters, these snow Demon cows, I'd do theyd E
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: their own card snow Demon token.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, you should do that a lot more often. Is
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: all that. I will say, Wookie, and I'm gonna post
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: a card in here that I don't think anyone has
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: figured out. I've never seen anyone talk about it, but
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: I'll post that. We can let you look at it
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: and we can come back to it later. But one
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: of the one of the things about the mechanics and
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: the competitive changes in twenty twenty five, I wanted to
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: ask you, guys, is your prediction for what one hero
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: will take the top spot during Trial by Frost or
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: so we'll just say top three maybe even like they're
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna hit high levels in Trial by Frost.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: All right, so this is this is all the heroes
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: that not just the ones that are in Trials by
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: frost yep out of.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: All of them, because this is competitively, who do you
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: think is the hero man?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Now I want to say it was with what you
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: said earlier, like now I want to be like, well,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a rock let me let me
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: look right like because you like you made such a
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: fuss about it, I'm like, it's gotta be that one, right.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be sicky. I honestly think it's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: gonna be sicky.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: So yeah, Ortis is the cop out, cheap bastard take,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: but you know, we'll.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: Put I think Akeisha will also be very good. Well
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: from all the control style cards.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: Dexter just basically said, I think that they're going to
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: be seasons in a year. So what is your guess, Wookie?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I I gave my one already, I said. I rac like,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: I feel like with what you said earlier, that was
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: like a little a little teaser just.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: Getting more support. Yeah, gonna get really strong.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but but you you would, you would you were like,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: they're gonna get more support, and then you're like, Nope,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: they're gonna get like you were really adamant on it.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I read too much into that.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe I read too.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: Much that I think I put. I'll put a rock
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: for Wookie and anyone that's listening. You can keep track
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: of this and bring it back.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Up and then you can then and tell me why
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong later, and it's cool, like I'm all with
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: I'm all for it.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: Yep, I wrote Tojokjo is my gud.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: That was my next one. I was like, I feel
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: like Coojo's do because he's already pretty strong, maybe just
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: missing a piece or two.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: Yep, and Cojo.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: I also agree with Dexter's adversion to Akesha, like she
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: already feels super control, get more control, right, she already
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: feels super like more wants and wants to play that
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: more control role. And I feel like that that is
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: a big focus in this set, more more like controlle
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: tempo based type because the whole game is about tempo,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: but like more of that, like I do bad things
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: to you, right, and that that's what gives me the
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: upper hand, not like just like brute strength. Here's seventy
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: two artists one one one tokens, right, like just be like,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: oh what one one one tokens? Like I never saw that.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: It was weird? Where'd they go?
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Does does Yizmer get Geyser? I did not check
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: who all got geyser or Blizzard Geyser or Blizzard?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: I guess, oh man, but er Vaine says Subash Really, I.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: Think Subash is is stood close to good enough now
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: that it's definitely possible. And of course Dombringer said Sierra.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: I think Sierra is also a good guess because Sierra
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: is one we know for a fact is getting more
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: support and I get more support. And if anyone's going
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: to bring Sierra to the top three more than once,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: it's going to be Doombringer and Zared. So mm hmm. Interesting.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: I could see a Faunas in Akesha as well, but
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: I already think that a Faunas is probably top three
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: So yes, I would definitely say it's top three right
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: now with if you get those Spindle uniques, it is
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: so strong.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I do like hearing this because my two favorite my
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: two favorite factions coming into Altered were Lyra and Thinking Purple.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: Sorry I'm drying a blank. It's getting late, is Mere,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: thank you, I'm drying a blank. I like both of those.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Faction is definitely gonna get good. Kesha was like my
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: first love, right that was what kind of drew me in,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: and then Novenka kept here.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: That is really the only action with three heroes that
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: are that can all be strong if you have the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: right support and uniques and stuff.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: Yep, yep. But I think the snow outfit specifically already
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: is very good for Novenka.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: I love that. Van's like, I'm not biased in any
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: way towards Suebash, trust me, says the person with the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Sue Bash emblem. Yeah, and I don't and I don't
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: like wookies. Not biased.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: Saudi is definitely getting more support, but I don't know
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: if that will bring Sadi into top three. And when
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: I say top three, I mean like consistently, when you
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: look at the top three of tournaments day to day,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: you see basically that hero almost every time. And so yeah,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: that's my guess is Kojo. I can look real quick
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: thirty nine cards dot Com. I'll just pull the last
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: three tournaments and I will say the only one that
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: is in the top three every single time is Sigy.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: So that's that's a that's a perspective to put it.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: So yep, I wrote down. Our guess is you guys
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: can hold us to them.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Bookie.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: Did you look at that card I posted in the chat?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: I did, so. I don't know what exactly you said,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for something.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: You said you like to look at the close up details.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: The only thing I noticed that's out of the norm
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: is the Teddy Bear m You're onto.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Something but all right, Teddy Bear.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: There that is all I had planned.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: I done noticed that.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, I've just made it bigger on
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: here okay, and let me take a look. Here there's
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: a Teddy Bear.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: Teddy bears. Something doesn't one of the heroes.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Have something, But I don't see anything else. I'm thinking
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: I'll get back to you next week. Let me let
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: me dig into this a little bit, because I like,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: I typically picked like the weird stuff, like snow demons.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to exist at all
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: at any level, but I've already loved them, and I
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: need to know what cards they're on so that I
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: can own most of them.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be dope. If we saw those, I would.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: And they're like my favorite other thing, my other my
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: other favorite thing is you guys know the cows with hair?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: I know what you're talking about in real life.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a specific breed of cow. They
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: of hair, Yeah, right, like yas hold on. Weirdly enough,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: I have them island Yes, highlander cows, that's what they're called.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: They're specific breed of cow. They have hair, they're fantastic.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I love them, these little snow demons. Also,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: they remind me a lot of them because they kind
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: of look like cows and they have hair.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, Yeddie has been teased, so I
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: mean maybe they're many.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: And that's my other favorites. Okay, so we're going to
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: wrap this up here, but I gotta tell this story
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: because it actually came up. It actually came up. Oh see,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: now you ruined it.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: I spoiled it. If you didn't want to look.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: At it, I know, And I looked at I was like, oh,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: what's this. You can't leave me buttons to click? I'll
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: click them every time.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: That is a good note story.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: My story. So Yetti has been teased, right, And what's
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: funny is a few years ago and this has nothing
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: to do with Altered but it's a funny story. A
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: few years ago, my wife got me a Valentine's Day
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: gift and back then, if you remember Jacklinks, they still
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: use the Yeddi to this day as kind of like
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: their mascot, not the Yetti but the Sasquatch. Same thing.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: Just on and my wife man grinning ear from ear
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: like we exchange our Valentine's Day things, and I got this.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: It's this heart shaped box with a little fluff around
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: the edges. Right, it's a little little yetti fur. And
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's so cool. I love I love
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: beef Jerky and I do. I love beef Jerky And
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, did you see who's on it? I
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I see he was on it. She's like,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: isn't that great? And I'm like, what do you Yeah,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: they've they've always used him as their mascot. Really, they've
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: always used him as their mascot. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: know Star Wars was on beef Jerky. And I look
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: at her and I go and she's like, I didn't
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: know Star Wars, Like, I didn't know that they did
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: anything with beef Jerky. And I'm like, oh honey, I'm like,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: do you think this is a Wookie? And she's like, yeah,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like a wookie. It kind of does.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: And she's like yeah. And I was like, oh, honey, this.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: Is I was not a Star Wars fan that looks like.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: So I had to explain to my wife. I'm like,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: oh honey, this is sas squatch. This isn't Chewbacha, but
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: I give her mad props for trying, right, like mad props.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: Like she saw it. She's like, oh, not a huge
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Star Wars fan, right, she still thinks jar Jar Binks
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: is great, but like, yeah, it was. It was fantastic
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: and it was. I watched that movie.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: I legitimately acted like jar Jar Binks for like a
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: good few months. My family hated me.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: Somehow, I'm not surprised because yeah, again, somehow I'm not surprised. Anyways.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: Thanks, lookie, that's.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: Gonna do it for us this week. Thank you guys,
• 1:17:05
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• 1:17:09
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• 1:17:11
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• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: even sabbatical. So I usually take this break from either
• 1:17:20
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• 1:17:23
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• 1:17:25
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• 1:17:29
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• 1:17:33
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• 1:17:37
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• 1:17:47
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• 1:17:48
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• 1:17:53
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• 1:17:56
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• 1:17:59
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of stuff going on. Twenty twenty five is
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a great year. It's gonna be a good
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  Speaker 2: year for Altered. I think we're gonna go over some
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  Speaker 2: stuff once we get some more news, and we'll see
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  Speaker 2: y'all next week.
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  Speaker 3: Just watching.
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  Speaker 4: Slave Pain, How to Tame You, how to time You.
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  Speaker 3: Pull?
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  Speaker 4: Just a sucker? Well, can I say I'm just a
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  Speaker 4: sucker for pain?
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  Speaker 1: They're looking at me like I'm fucking this