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Hardwood Flooring 101: Refinishing Mistakes, Finishes & Pre-Finished vs. Site-Finished · Around the House with Eric G®: Home Improvement Remodeling & DIY

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  Foreign.
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  Coast
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  to
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  coast,
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  it's
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  Eric
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  G.
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  And
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  co
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  host
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  John
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  Dudley,
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  Dive
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  inspired.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  the
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  around
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  the
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  House
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  show,
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  trusted
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  source
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  for
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  everything
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  about
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  your
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  home.
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  I'm
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  Eric
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  G.
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  Thanks
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  for
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  joining
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  us
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  today.
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  We
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  have
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  got
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  an
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  episode
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  for
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  you
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  guys
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  today
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  that
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  is,
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  we
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  have
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  been
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  talking
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  about
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  for
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  a
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  while,
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  and
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  I've
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  wanted
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  to
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  do
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  it,
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  and
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  we
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  finally
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  have
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  done
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  it.
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  We've
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  got
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  Titus
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  and
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  Kelly
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  from
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  Treadw,
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  Treadline
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  Hardwood
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  out
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  there.
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  They
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  are
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  my
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  neighbors,
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  and
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  they
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  got
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  to
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  come
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  on
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  the
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  show
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  because
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  I
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  believe
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  what
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  these
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  guys
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  are
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  doing.
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  And
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  you
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  know
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  something,
• 1:52
  we
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  haven't
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  really
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  dove
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  into
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  hardwood
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  flooring
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  and
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  flooring
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  like
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  that
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  like
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  we
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  should
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  have
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  in
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  the
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  past.
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  So
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  this
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  episode
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  is
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  for
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  you
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  guys.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  around
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  the
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  House.
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  All
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  right.
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  Thank
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  you.
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  Well,
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  we're
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  gonna
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  have
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  a
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  fun
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  discussion
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  today
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  because
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  I
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  tell
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  you
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  what,
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  flooring
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  is
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  one
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  of
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  those
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  things
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  that
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  I
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  think
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  is
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  very
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  rightfully
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  so
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  intimidating
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  for
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  many
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  homeowners
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  out
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  there.
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  And
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  it
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  is
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  something
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  that
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  sounds
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  so
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  easy,
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  but
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  to
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  do
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  it
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  can
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  be
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  so
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  difficult
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  or
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  you
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  gotta
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  be
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  really
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  skilled
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  to
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  do
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  it,
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  especially
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  when
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  it
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  comes
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  down
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  to
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  refinishing
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  and
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  things
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  like
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  that.
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  I
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  have
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  seen
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  so
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  many
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  contractor
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  disasters,
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  let
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  alone
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  homeowner
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  disasters,
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  of
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  running
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  down
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  to
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  the
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  big
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  orange
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  store
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  and
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  grabbing
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  the
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  most
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  aggressive
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  sander
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  and
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  taking
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  half
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  the
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  floor
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  off
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  with
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  it.
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  What
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  do
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  you
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  guys
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  see
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  out
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  there?
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  I
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  mean,
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  we
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  see.
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  We
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  see
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  that.
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  And
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  I
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  guess
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  generally
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  speaking,
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  it.
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  It
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  is
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  more
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  difficult
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  than
• 2:48
  people.
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  People.
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  People
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  realize
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  when
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  they
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  start.
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  And
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  I
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  would
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  say
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  the
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  biggest
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  thing
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  is
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  just
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  what
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  a
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  lot
• 2:54
  of
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  people
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  don't
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  realize
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  is
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  the.
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  The
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  devil's
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  in
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  the
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  details
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  when
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  it
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  comes
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  to
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  hardwood
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  floors.
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  I
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  think
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  anyone
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  can
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  go
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  pick
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  up
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  a
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  sander
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  from
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  Home
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  Depot
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  and.
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  And
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  bring
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  it
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  into
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  their
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  house.
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  But
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  when
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  it
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  comes
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  to
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  all
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  the
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  hand
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  work
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  and
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  all
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  the
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  minor
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  things
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  around
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  the
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  edges
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  and
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  things
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  like,
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  that's
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  really
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  where
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  professionals
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  shine
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  opposed
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  to
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  a
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  homeowner,
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  no
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  question.
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  And
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  I
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  tell
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  you
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  what,
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  I
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  have
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  seen
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  so
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  many
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  horrific
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  sanding
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  jobs
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  out
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  there
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  where
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  it
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  looks
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  like
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  you
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  walk
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  in
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  a
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  room,
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  and
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  I'm
• 3:20
  like,
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  this
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  has
• 3:21
  more
• 3:21
  waves
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  than
• 3:22
  the
• 3:22
  Pacific
• 3:22
  Ocean
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  does
• 3:23
  in
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  it
• 3:23
  because
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  obviously
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  things
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  were
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  not
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  done
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  correctly.
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  I
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  think
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  second
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  and
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  third
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  and
• 3:29
  fourth
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  that
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  I.
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  I
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  do
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  inspections
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  on
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  wood
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  floors.
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  All
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  the
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  time.
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  And
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  people
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  don't
• 3:35
  realize
• 3:36
  how
• 3:36
  much
• 3:36
  technicality
• 3:37
  is
• 3:38
  required
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  to
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  sand
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  a
• 3:39
  floor
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  properly.
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  And
• 3:41
  it
• 3:41
  can
• 3:41
  get
• 3:42
  out
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  of
• 3:42
  hand
• 3:43
  very
• 3:43
  quickly.
• 3:44
  And
• 3:45
  it's
• 3:45
  all
• 3:45
  depending
• 3:45
  on
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  finish.
• 3:46
  I
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  mean,
• 3:46
  Kelly,
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  you,
• 3:47
  you,
• 3:47
  you're
• 3:47
  a
• 3:47
  little
• 3:48
  bit
• 3:48
  different
• 3:48
  in
• 3:48
  this
• 3:48
  where
• 3:49
  Titus
• 3:49
  is
• 3:49
  really
• 3:50
  Treadline,
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  hard
• 3:51
  hardwood
• 3:52
  all
• 3:52
  the
• 3:52
  way
• 3:52
  through
• 3:52
  on
• 3:52
  that.
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  That's
• 3:53
  what
• 3:53
  you
• 3:53
  guys
• 3:54
  do.
• 3:54
  But
• 3:54
  you're
• 3:55
  also
• 3:56
  one
• 3:56
  of
• 3:56
  the
• 3:57
  national
• 3:57
  experts
• 3:58
  as
• 3:58
  far
• 3:58
  as
• 3:58
  what
• 3:58
  I
• 3:59
  could
• 3:59
  say
• 3:59
  about
• 3:59
  you
• 4:00
  for
• 4:00
  flooring
• 4:00
  altogether.
• 4:01
  So
• 4:01
  you
• 4:02
  do
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  lot
• 4:02
  with
• 4:02
  Treadline
• 4:03
  and
• 4:03
  then
• 4:03
  of
• 4:03
  course,
• 4:04
  you've
• 4:04
  got
• 4:04
  a
• 4:04
  whole
• 4:04
  bunch
• 4:04
  to
• 4:04
  do
• 4:05
  outside
• 4:05
  of
• 4:05
  that.
• 4:06
  Yeah,
• 4:06
  I'm
• 4:07
  a,
• 4:07
  I'm
• 4:07
  an
• 4:07
  inspector
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  with
• 4:08
  the
• 4:08
  National
• 4:08
  Wood
• 4:09
  Flooring
• 4:09
  association,
• 4:10
  so
• 4:10
  I
• 4:10
  go
• 4:11
  around
• 4:11
  when
• 4:11
  something
• 4:12
  does
• 4:12
  go
• 4:12
  wrong
• 4:12
  with
• 4:13
  the
• 4:13
  hardwood
• 4:13
  floor
• 4:14
  and
• 4:14
  I
• 4:14
  inspect
• 4:15
  it
• 4:15
  on
• 4:15
  site,
• 4:16
  talk
• 4:16
  to
• 4:16
  all
• 4:16
  the
• 4:16
  people
• 4:16
  involved,
• 4:17
  find
• 4:17
  out
• 4:18
  kind
• 4:18
  of
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  hows,
• 4:19
  whys,
• 4:20
  because
• 4:20
  of
• 4:21
  the
• 4:21
  failures
• 4:22
  and,
• 4:22
  and,
• 4:23
  and
• 4:23
  professionals
• 4:24
  can
• 4:24
  fail
• 4:24
  too.
• 4:25
  So
• 4:25
  it's,
• 4:25
  it's
• 4:25
  not
• 4:25
  just
• 4:26
  homeowners.
• 4:26
  So
• 4:27
  that
• 4:27
  also
• 4:27
  speaks
• 4:28
  to
• 4:28
  how
• 4:28
  difficult
• 4:29
  it
• 4:29
  can
• 4:29
  be
• 4:30
  to
• 4:30
  get
• 4:30
  your
• 4:30
  floor
• 4:31
  right.
• 4:32
  So,
• 4:32
  yeah,
• 4:32
  now
• 4:32
  I
• 4:33
  see
• 4:33
  a
• 4:33
  lot
• 4:33
  of
• 4:34
  things
• 4:34
  that
• 4:34
  go
• 4:35
  wrong
• 4:35
  and
• 4:36
  try
• 4:36
  to
• 4:36
  help
• 4:36
  when
• 4:37
  I
• 4:37
  can,
• 4:37
  especially
• 4:37
  on
• 4:38
  the
• 4:38
  treadline
• 4:38
  side,
• 4:39
  prevent
• 4:39
  those
• 4:40
  things
• 4:40
  from
• 4:40
  happening.
• 4:41
  But
• 4:42
  it's
• 4:42
  so
• 4:42
  crazy.
• 4:42
  People
• 4:43
  go
• 4:43
  out,
• 4:43
  buy
• 4:43
  that
• 4:43
  home
• 4:44
  and
• 4:44
  maybe
• 4:44
  it
• 4:44
  was
• 4:44
  built
• 4:45
  in
• 4:45
  the
• 4:46
  70s,
• 4:46
  80s
• 4:47
  or
• 4:47
  90s
• 4:47
  or
• 4:47
  even
• 4:48
  early
• 4:48
  2000s,
• 4:49
  and
• 4:49
  who
• 4:50
  knows
• 4:50
  what
• 4:50
  finishes
• 4:51
  on
• 4:51
  there.
• 4:52
  And
• 4:52
  half
• 4:53
  the
• 4:53
  time
• 4:53
  it's
• 4:53
  some
• 4:54
  like
• 4:54
  weird
• 4:54
  white
• 4:54
  pickled
• 4:55
  oak
• 4:55
  or
• 4:55
  white
• 4:56
  oak
• 4:56
  or
• 4:57
  something
• 4:57
  that
• 4:57
  looks
• 4:58
  kind
• 4:58
  of
• 4:58
  a
• 4:58
  milky
• 4:59
  white
• 4:59
  or
• 4:59
  even
• 4:59
  a
• 4:59
  pink.
• 5:00
  And
• 5:00
  they
• 5:01
  think,
• 5:01
  oh,
• 5:02
  great
• 5:02
  weekend
• 5:03
  project,
• 5:03
  I'm
• 5:04
  going
• 5:04
  to
• 5:04
  fix
• 5:04
  that.
• 5:04
  And
• 5:05
  it's
• 5:05
  so
• 5:05
  far
• 5:05
  from
• 5:06
  the
• 5:06
  truth.
• 5:07
  Yeah,
• 5:07
  yeah,
• 5:08
  definitely.
• 5:08
  And
• 5:09
  then
• 5:09
  it,
• 5:09
  it,
• 5:09
  it
• 5:09
  gets
• 5:10
  so
• 5:10
  much
• 5:10
  deeper
• 5:10
  than
• 5:10
  just
• 5:10
  the
• 5:11
  sanding
• 5:11
  portion.
• 5:11
  We,
• 5:12
  we
• 5:12
  haven't
• 5:12
  even
• 5:12
  really
• 5:13
  to
• 5:13
  touched
• 5:13
  down
• 5:14
  on
• 5:14
  finishes
• 5:14
  yet
• 5:14
  as
• 5:15
  far
• 5:15
  as
• 5:15
  what
• 5:15
  finishes
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  choose,
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  application
• 5:17
  process
• 5:18
  and
• 5:18
  then
• 5:19
  all
• 5:19
  the
• 5:19
  different
• 5:19
  chemical
• 5:20
  makeups
• 5:20
  between
• 5:21
  all
• 5:22
  of
• 5:22
  them
• 5:22
  to
• 5:22
  make
• 5:22
  sure
• 5:22
  that
• 5:23
  they
• 5:23
  play
• 5:23
  nicely
• 5:24
  together.
• 5:25
  And
• 5:25
  I've
• 5:25
  definitely
• 5:25
  seen
• 5:26
  my,
• 5:26
  my
• 5:26
  own
• 5:27
  horror
• 5:27
  stories.
• 5:29
  Having
• 5:29
  me
• 5:29
  come
• 5:29
  in
• 5:30
  and
• 5:30
  fix
• 5:30
  what
• 5:30
  they've
• 5:31
  done
• 5:31
  and
• 5:32
  the
• 5:32
  kind
• 5:32
  of
• 5:32
  things
• 5:32
  people
• 5:33
  come
• 5:33
  up
• 5:33
  with
• 5:33
  is
• 5:33
  pretty
• 5:34
  crazy.
• 5:35
  Well,
• 5:35
  I
• 5:35
  think
• 5:35
  that
• 5:35
  one
• 5:36
  of
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  big
• 5:36
  problems
• 5:36
  that
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  see
• 5:36
  out
• 5:37
  there
• 5:37
  is
• 5:37
  that
• 5:37
  there's
• 5:38
  so
• 5:38
  many
• 5:38
  different
• 5:38
  finishes
• 5:39
  depending
• 5:39
  right
• 5:39
  on
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  age
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  product
• 5:41
  that's
• 5:41
  down
• 5:41
  there.
• 5:41
  It
• 5:41
  could
• 5:41
  be
• 5:42
  waxed
• 5:42
  from
• 5:42
  the
• 5:43
  50s,
• 5:43
  it
• 5:43
  could
• 5:43
  be
• 5:44
  an
• 5:44
  aluminum
• 5:45
  oxide
• 5:45
  that
• 5:45
  was
• 5:46
  pre
• 5:46
  finished
• 5:47
  and
• 5:47
  all
• 5:47
  those
• 5:48
  are
• 5:48
  way
• 5:48
  different
• 5:49
  preps
• 5:49
  just
• 5:50
  to
• 5:50
  get
• 5:50
  a
• 5:50
  finish
• 5:50
  on
• 5:50
  it,
• 5:50
  right?
• 5:51
  Oh,
• 5:51
  yeah.
• 5:52
  Oh
• 5:52
  yeah.
• 5:52
  For
• 5:53
  example,
• 5:53
  some
• 5:53
  of
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  wax
• 5:54
  floors,
• 5:54
  things
• 5:54
  like
• 5:54
  that,
• 5:55
  you
• 5:55
  need
• 5:55
  different
• 5:55
  Chemicals
• 5:56
  to
• 5:56
  strip
• 5:56
  them
• 5:56
  off,
• 5:57
  they'll
• 5:57
  clog
• 5:57
  your
• 5:57
  sandpaper,
• 5:58
  Things
• 5:58
  like
• 5:58
  that.
• 5:59
  Aluminum
• 5:59
  oxide
• 6:00
  is
• 6:00
  its
• 6:00
  own
• 6:01
  animal
• 6:01
  in
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  sense
• 6:01
  that
• 6:02
  aluminum
• 6:02
  oxide
• 6:03
  is
• 6:03
  a
• 6:03
  type
• 6:03
  of
• 6:03
  sandpaper.
• 6:04
  So
• 6:04
  you,
• 6:04
  you
• 6:04
  find
• 6:05
  yourself
• 6:05
  sanding
• 6:05
  sandpaper
• 6:06
  with
• 6:06
  sandpaper.
• 6:07
  And
• 6:08
  even
• 6:08
  for
• 6:08
  us
• 6:09
  as
• 6:09
  the
• 6:09
  pros,
• 6:09
  depending
• 6:10
  on
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  size
• 6:10
  of
• 6:11
  the
• 6:11
  project,
• 6:11
  it's.
• 6:12
  It
• 6:12
  takes
• 6:12
  twice
• 6:12
  the
• 6:13
  time
• 6:13
  for
• 6:13
  us
• 6:13
  to
• 6:13
  get
• 6:14
  through
• 6:14
  that.
• 6:14
  And
• 6:14
  then
• 6:14
  you
• 6:15
  have
• 6:16
  just
• 6:16
  like
• 6:16
  the,
• 6:16
  your
• 6:16
  water
• 6:17
  base
• 6:17
  and
• 6:17
  your
• 6:17
  Swedish
• 6:18
  finishes.
• 6:18
  I
• 6:18
  don't
• 6:18
  know
• 6:18
  if
• 6:18
  you
• 6:19
  know
• 6:19
  about
• 6:19
  those,
• 6:19
  Eric.
• 6:20
  Yeah,
• 6:20
  they
• 6:20
  don't
• 6:20
  like
• 6:21
  to
• 6:21
  play
• 6:21
  nice
• 6:21
  either.
• 6:22
  So
• 6:22
  if
• 6:22
  you
• 6:22
  don't
• 6:22
  sand
• 6:22
  them
• 6:22
  all
• 6:23
  the
• 6:23
  way
• 6:23
  off,
• 6:23
  they'll,
• 6:23
  they
• 6:24
  won't
• 6:24
  mix
• 6:24
  when
• 6:24
  you
• 6:25
  put
• 6:25
  the
• 6:25
  new
• 6:25
  stuff
• 6:25
  back
• 6:26
  down.
• 6:26
  So
• 6:27
  it
• 6:27
  gets
• 6:27
  pretty
• 6:27
  deep.
• 6:28
  Well,
• 6:29
  especially
• 6:29
  when
• 6:29
  you're.
• 6:29
  I
• 6:29
  mean
• 6:29
  it's
• 6:30
  like
• 6:30
  basic
• 6:30
  101.
• 6:31
  You're
• 6:31
  trying
• 6:31
  to
• 6:31
  mix
• 6:31
  water
• 6:32
  and
• 6:32
  oil.
• 6:33
  Yep.
• 6:33
  They
• 6:34
  don't
• 6:34
  go
• 6:34
  well
• 6:34
  together
• 6:34
  that
• 6:35
  way.
• 6:35
  So
• 6:35
  I
• 6:36
  get
• 6:36
  that
• 6:36
  you've
• 6:36
  got
• 6:37
  waxes
• 6:37
  out
• 6:38
  there
• 6:38
  which
• 6:38
  if
• 6:38
  you
• 6:39
  put,
• 6:39
  if
• 6:39
  you
• 6:40
  got
• 6:40
  any
• 6:40
  wax
• 6:40
  on
• 6:40
  it,
• 6:40
  you
• 6:41
  put
• 6:41
  something
• 6:41
  that's
• 6:41
  a
• 6:41
  water
• 6:42
  based
• 6:42
  finish
• 6:42
  on
• 6:42
  it,
• 6:43
  it's
• 6:43
  just
• 6:43
  going
• 6:43
  to
• 6:43
  fish
• 6:43
  eye
• 6:43
  and
• 6:44
  create
• 6:44
  a
• 6:44
  mess.
• 6:45
  If
• 6:45
  it
• 6:45
  even
• 6:46
  cures,
• 6:46
  I
• 6:46
  bet.
• 6:47
  Yeah,
• 6:47
  I
• 6:47
  like
• 6:48
  to
• 6:48
  go
• 6:49
  ahead.
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  was
• 6:49
  gonna
• 6:49
  say
• 6:49
  there's
• 6:50
  also
• 6:50
  situations
• 6:51
  where,
• 6:51
  you
• 6:51
  know,
• 6:51
  some
• 6:52
  of
• 6:52
  those
• 6:52
  older
• 6:52
  floors
• 6:53
  where
• 6:53
  you've
• 6:53
  got
• 6:53
  waxes
• 6:54
  and
• 6:54
  different
• 6:54
  things
• 6:54
  that
• 6:55
  have
• 6:55
  soaked
• 6:55
  so
• 6:55
  deeply
• 6:56
  into
• 6:56
  the
• 6:56
  pores
• 6:56
  of
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  wood
• 6:58
  when
• 6:58
  the
• 6:58
  floor
• 6:58
  is
• 6:58
  sanded
• 6:59
  that
• 6:59
  doesn't
• 6:59
  always
• 7:00
  come
• 7:00
  out
• 7:00
  completely
• 7:01
  and
• 7:01
  sometimes
• 7:01
  the
• 7:02
  sanding
• 7:02
  because
• 7:02
  of
• 7:02
  the
• 7:03
  heat
• 7:03
  and
• 7:03
  stuff
• 7:03
  will
• 7:04
  actually
• 7:04
  reactivate
• 7:05
  it
• 7:05
  and
• 7:05
  come
• 7:05
  up
• 7:05
  to
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  top
• 7:06
  and
• 7:07
  then
• 7:07
  it
• 7:07
  reacts
• 7:07
  with
• 7:07
  the
• 7:08
  finish.
• 7:08
  Right.
• 7:09
  So
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  can
• 7:09
  have
• 7:09
  some,
• 7:10
  some
• 7:10
  issues
• 7:10
  when
• 7:11
  it
• 7:11
  comes
• 7:11
  to
• 7:11
  that
• 7:11
  type
• 7:11
  of
• 7:12
  stuff
• 7:12
  too.
• 7:12
  That.
• 7:12
  But
• 7:12
  you'd
• 7:13
  never
• 7:13
  know
• 7:13
  that
• 7:13
  any
• 7:14
  of
• 7:14
  that
• 7:14
  was
• 7:14
  even
• 7:14
  in
• 7:14
  the
• 7:15
  floor
• 7:15
  when
• 7:15
  you
• 7:15
  go
• 7:15
  to
• 7:16
  sand
• 7:16
  it.
• 7:17
  Yeah,
• 7:17
  that's,
• 7:17
  that's
• 7:17
  those
• 7:18
  rookie
• 7:18
  mistakes
• 7:18
  that
• 7:19
  we
• 7:19
  see
• 7:19
  out
• 7:19
  there.
• 7:20
  And
• 7:20
  I
• 7:20
  think
• 7:21
  to
• 7:21
  me,
• 7:22
  my
• 7:22
  favorite
• 7:22
  floor
• 7:22
  is
• 7:23
  a
• 7:23
  hardwood
• 7:23
  floor.
• 7:23
  I
• 7:24
  like
• 7:24
  the.
• 7:24
  I've.
• 7:24
  I've
• 7:25
  seen
• 7:25
  enough
• 7:25
  issues
• 7:26
  with.
• 7:26
  There's
• 7:26
  a
• 7:26
  lot
• 7:27
  of
• 7:27
  people.
• 7:27
  I'll
• 7:27
  just
• 7:27
  put
• 7:27
  the
• 7:27
  pre
• 7:27
  finished
• 7:28
  stuff
• 7:28
  down.
• 7:29
  I
• 7:29
  get
• 7:29
  it.
• 7:30
  But
• 7:30
  to
• 7:31
  me
• 7:31
  as
• 7:31
  a
• 7:31
  homeowner
• 7:32
  and
• 7:32
  as
• 7:32
  somebody
• 7:33
  doing
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  project
• 7:33
  myself,
• 7:34
  you're
• 7:34
  just
• 7:35
  not
• 7:35
  going
• 7:35
  to
• 7:35
  get
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  same
• 7:36
  look
• 7:37
  when
• 7:37
  you
• 7:38
  put
• 7:38
  a
• 7:38
  pre
• 7:38
  finished
• 7:39
  product
• 7:39
  down.
• 7:39
  What's
• 7:40
  your
• 7:40
  guys's
• 7:40
  take
• 7:40
  on
• 7:40
  that?
• 7:41
  I'm
• 7:41
  not
• 7:41
  the
• 7:41
  biggest
• 7:41
  fan
• 7:42
  of
• 7:42
  it
• 7:42
  personally.
• 7:43
  Well,
• 7:44
  well,
• 7:44
  I
• 7:44
  mean,
• 7:44
  I
• 7:44
  guess
• 7:45
  it
• 7:45
  kind
• 7:45
  of
• 7:45
  depends.
• 7:45
  Right.
• 7:46
  Because
• 7:46
  there's.
• 7:46
  When
• 7:47
  it
• 7:47
  comes
• 7:47
  to
• 7:47
  pre
• 7:47
  finished
• 7:48
  there's
• 7:48
  tons
• 7:48
  of
• 7:48
  different
• 7:49
  levels.
• 7:49
  Right.
• 7:49
  You
• 7:50
  have
• 7:50
  your
• 7:50
  solid
• 7:51
  pre
• 7:51
  finished
• 7:52
  which
• 7:52
  is
• 7:52
  going
• 7:52
  to
• 7:52
  be
• 7:52
  your
• 7:52
  real
• 7:53
  wood.
• 7:53
  And
• 7:53
  I
• 7:54
  guess
• 7:54
  in
• 7:54
  my
• 7:54
  mind
• 7:54
  that's
• 7:55
  real
• 7:55
  wood
• 7:55
  and
• 7:55
  you
• 7:55
  could
• 7:56
  refinish
• 7:56
  it
• 7:56
  just
• 7:56
  as
• 7:57
  many
• 7:57
  times
• 7:57
  as
• 7:57
  your
• 7:57
  sand
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  finish
• 7:58
  on,
• 7:59
  on
• 7:59
  site
• 7:59
  floor.
• 7:59
  Right.
• 8:00
  And
• 8:00
  then
• 8:00
  you
• 8:00
  go
• 8:01
  into
• 8:01
  some
• 8:01
  of
• 8:01
  the
• 8:01
  engineered
• 8:02
  products
• 8:02
  and
• 8:02
  some
• 8:02
  of
• 8:02
  those
• 8:03
  last
• 8:03
  just
• 8:03
  as
• 8:04
  long
• 8:04
  as
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  sand
• 8:04
  and
• 8:04
  finish
• 8:05
  on
• 8:05
  site.
• 8:05
  Right.
• 8:05
  Because
• 8:05
  there's
• 8:06
  only
• 8:06
  so
• 8:06
  much
• 8:06
  that
• 8:06
  you
• 8:07
  can
• 8:07
  sand
• 8:07
  out
• 8:08
  of
• 8:08
  them
• 8:08
  before
• 8:08
  they're
• 8:08
  trash,
• 8:09
  no
• 8:09
  matter
• 8:09
  what.
• 8:10
  And
• 8:10
  then
• 8:10
  from
• 8:11
  there
• 8:11
  you
• 8:11
  have
• 8:11
  the
• 8:11
  engineered,
• 8:12
  which
• 8:12
  is
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  cheaper
• 8:12
  stuff.
• 8:13
  Obviously
• 8:13
  that's,
• 8:14
  it's
• 8:14
  wood
• 8:15
  but
• 8:15
  it's
• 8:15
  not
• 8:15
  quite
• 8:16
  a
• 8:16
  complete
• 8:17
  substitute.
• 8:18
  And
• 8:18
  so
• 8:18
  I
• 8:18
  guess
• 8:19
  from
• 8:19
  my
• 8:19
  opinion,
• 8:19
  as
• 8:20
  long
• 8:20
  as
• 8:20
  you're
• 8:21
  educating
• 8:21
  yourself
• 8:22
  properly
• 8:22
  and
• 8:23
  picking
• 8:23
  what
• 8:23
  works
• 8:24
  best
• 8:24
  for
• 8:24
  you
• 8:24
  and
• 8:25
  what
• 8:25
  you
• 8:25
  got,
• 8:26
  I
• 8:26
  have
• 8:26
  no,
• 8:27
  I've
• 8:27
  got
• 8:27
  no
• 8:27
  problem
• 8:27
  with
• 8:28
  it.
• 8:29
  Nice.
• 8:29
  Yeah.
• 8:29
  To
• 8:30
  me
• 8:30
  with,
• 8:30
  I've
• 8:30
  always
• 8:30
  had
• 8:31
  dogs
• 8:31
  and
• 8:31
  pets
• 8:31
  and
• 8:32
  things
• 8:32
  like
• 8:32
  that.
• 8:32
  To
• 8:32
  me
• 8:33
  I
• 8:33
  love
• 8:33
  that
• 8:33
  finish
• 8:34
  over
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  top
• 8:34
  and
• 8:34
  I
• 8:34
  know
• 8:35
  it's
• 8:35
  not
• 8:35
  foolproof
• 8:35
  but
• 8:35
  I
• 8:36
  sure
• 8:36
  love
• 8:36
  the,
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  sand
• 8:37
  and
• 8:37
  finish
• 8:38
  in
• 8:38
  place
• 8:38
  because
• 8:38
  to
• 8:39
  me
• 8:39
  it
• 8:39
  just
• 8:39
  gives
• 8:39
  it
• 8:39
  a,
• 8:40
  a
• 8:40
  smoother
• 8:40
  look.
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  don't
• 8:41
  have
• 8:41
  little
• 8:41
  micro
• 8:42
  bevels
• 8:42
  or
• 8:42
  something
• 8:42
  to
• 8:43
  catch
• 8:43
  dirt
• 8:44
  in
• 8:45
  and
• 8:45
  all
• 8:45
  that
• 8:45
  other
• 8:45
  stuff,
• 8:46
  but
• 8:46
  that's
• 8:46
  my
• 8:46
  take
• 8:47
  on
• 8:47
  it.
• 8:47
  And
• 8:47
  I
• 8:47
  know
• 8:47
  other
• 8:47
  people
• 8:48
  like
• 8:48
  that
• 8:48
  look
• 8:48
  and
• 8:49
  I
• 8:49
  have
• 8:49
  no
• 8:49
  problem
• 8:49
  with
• 8:49
  it.
• 8:49
  It's
• 8:50
  a
• 8:50
  personal
• 8:50
  opinion
• 8:51
  but
• 8:51
  to
• 8:51
  me
• 8:52
  I
• 8:52
  sure
• 8:52
  like
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  look
• 8:52
  of
• 8:53
  just
• 8:53
  a
• 8:53
  well
• 8:53
  done
• 8:55
  finished
• 8:55
  floor
• 8:55
  that
• 8:56
  was
• 8:56
  done
• 8:56
  on
• 8:56
  site.
• 8:57
  I
• 8:58
  think
• 8:58
  some,
• 8:59
  some.
• 8:59
  Something
• 9:00
  to
• 9:00
  note
• 9:00
  about
• 9:00
  that
• 9:01
  is
• 9:01
  the
• 9:01
  finishes
• 9:02
  that
• 9:02
  they
• 9:02
  put
• 9:02
  on
• 9:02
  site,
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  pre
• 9:03
  finish,
• 9:03
  right.
• 9:04
  They're
• 9:04
  done
• 9:04
  at
• 9:04
  a
• 9:04
  factory,
• 9:05
  are
• 9:05
  very
• 9:05
  different
• 9:05
  than
• 9:06
  what
• 9:06
  we
• 9:06
  put
• 9:06
  on
• 9:06
  site.
• 9:07
  So
• 9:08
  for
• 9:08
  example,
• 9:09
  what
• 9:09
  is
• 9:09
  put
• 9:09
  on
• 9:10
  site
• 9:10
  is
• 9:10
  typically
• 9:11
  something
• 9:11
  that
• 9:12
  has
• 9:12
  a
• 9:12
  little
• 9:12
  bit
• 9:12
  more
• 9:13
  stretch
• 9:13
  in
• 9:14
  it.
• 9:14
  Like
• 9:14
  a
• 9:15
  urethane
• 9:15
  type
• 9:16
  base
• 9:16
  of
• 9:16
  some
• 9:16
  kind.
• 9:17
  Whether
• 9:17
  it's
• 9:17
  a
• 9:17
  water
• 9:17
  base
• 9:18
  or
• 9:18
  something
• 9:18
  like
• 9:18
  that.
• 9:19
  What
• 9:19
  they
• 9:20
  put
• 9:20
  on
• 9:20
  at
• 9:20
  factories
• 9:21
  has
• 9:21
  a
• 9:22
  typically,
• 9:22
  it's
• 9:22
  typically
• 9:23
  more
• 9:23
  of
• 9:23
  an
• 9:23
  aluminum
• 9:24
  oxide
• 9:24
  type
• 9:24
  finish
• 9:25
  which
• 9:25
  has,
• 9:26
  it's
• 9:26
  a,
• 9:26
  it's
• 9:26
  a
• 9:26
  harder,
• 9:27
  more
• 9:28
  I
• 9:28
  guess
• 9:28
  you
• 9:29
  could
• 9:29
  call
• 9:29
  brittle
• 9:30
  finish
• 9:30
  versus
• 9:31
  kind
• 9:31
  of
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  stretchy
• 9:32
  finish.
• 9:32
  And
• 9:33
  so
• 9:33
  they
• 9:33
  wear
• 9:34
  very
• 9:34
  differently.
• 9:35
  So
• 9:35
  a
• 9:35
  site
• 9:36
  finish
• 9:36
  floor,
• 9:36
  typically
• 9:37
  you
• 9:38
  go,
• 9:38
  you'll
• 9:38
  get
• 9:38
  scratches,
• 9:39
  dents,
• 9:39
  dings,
• 9:39
  that
• 9:40
  kind
• 9:40
  of
• 9:40
  stuff.
• 9:40
  But
• 9:40
  a
• 9:40
  lot
• 9:40
  of
• 9:41
  times
• 9:41
  the
• 9:41
  finish
• 9:41
  is
• 9:42
  a
• 9:42
  little
• 9:42
  more
• 9:42
  stretchy.
• 9:42
  So
• 9:43
  you
• 9:43
  don't
• 9:43
  see
• 9:43
  it
• 9:43
  in
• 9:43
  the
• 9:44
  same
• 9:44
  way.
• 9:44
  You
• 9:44
  almost
• 9:45
  see
• 9:45
  like
• 9:46
  dents
• 9:46
  a
• 9:46
  little
• 9:46
  bit
• 9:47
  faster.
• 9:47
  Especially,
• 9:47
  especially
• 9:48
  when
• 9:48
  it
• 9:48
  comes
• 9:48
  to
• 9:48
  like
• 9:48
  pets
• 9:49
  and
• 9:49
  different
• 9:49
  things
• 9:49
  like
• 9:49
  that
• 9:50
  where
• 9:51
  the
• 9:51
  aluminum
• 9:51
  oxide,
• 9:52
  because
• 9:52
  of
• 9:52
  that
• 9:52
  brittle,
• 9:53
  that
• 9:53
  oxide
• 9:53
  is
• 9:54
  actually
• 9:54
  a
• 9:54
  crystal
• 9:55
  line
• 9:55
  structure
• 9:56
  and
• 9:56
  when
• 9:56
  it
• 9:56
  scratches,
• 9:57
  it
• 9:57
  scratches
• 9:58
  white.
• 9:58
  So
• 9:59
  you
• 9:59
  see
• 9:59
  it
• 9:59
  more
• 10:00
  presently
• 10:00
  Maybe
• 10:01
  a
• 10:01
  harder
• 10:02
  finish
• 10:02
  on
• 10:02
  like
• 10:03
  a
• 10:03
  scratch
• 10:03
  resistant
• 10:04
  test.
• 10:04
  But
• 10:05
  you
• 10:05
  see
• 10:05
  that
• 10:05
  scratch
• 10:06
  much
• 10:06
  more
• 10:07
  apparently
• 10:07
  on
• 10:07
  the
• 10:07
  floor.
• 10:08
  So
• 10:08
  some
• 10:08
  people
• 10:08
  think,
• 10:09
  oh,
• 10:09
  this
• 10:09
  finish
• 10:09
  isn't
• 10:10
  wearing
• 10:10
  well,
• 10:11
  it's
• 10:11
  not
• 10:11
  holding
• 10:11
  up
• 10:12
  or
• 10:12
  something
• 10:12
  like
• 10:12
  that.
• 10:12
  It's
• 10:12
  doing
• 10:13
  what
• 10:13
  it's
• 10:13
  supposed
• 10:13
  to
• 10:14
  be
• 10:14
  doing.
• 10:14
  You
• 10:15
  just
• 10:15
  see
• 10:15
  it
• 10:15
  in
• 10:15
  a
• 10:16
  different
• 10:16
  way.
• 10:16
  And
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  lot
• 10:16
  of
• 10:16
  people
• 10:17
  don't
• 10:17
  realize
• 10:17
  that
• 10:17
  until
• 10:18
  they're
• 10:18
  living
• 10:18
  on
• 10:18
  the
• 10:19
  floor.
• 10:19
  To
• 10:20
  find
• 10:20
  out
• 10:20
  more,
• 10:21
  head
• 10:21
  to
• 10:21
  aroundthe
• 10:22
  house
• 10:22
  online.com
• 10:24
  around
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  house
• 10:24
  will
• 10:25
  be
• 10:25
  right
• 10:25
  back
• 10:25
  with
• 10:26
  more
• 10:26
  from
• 10:26
  Treadline
• 10:27
  as
• 10:27
  we
• 10:27
  talk
• 10:28
  about
• 10:28
  the
• 10:28
  secrets
• 10:29
  of
• 10:29
  flooring.
• 12:20
  Welcome
• 12:20
  back
• 12:20
  to
• 12:20
  the
• 12:20
  around
• 12:21
  the
• 12:21
  House
• 12:21
  Show.
• 12:22
  Eric
• 12:22
  G.
• 12:23
  Has
• 12:23
  been
• 12:23
  chatting
• 12:23
  with
• 12:24
  Portland,
• 12:24
  Oregon's
• 12:25
  Treadline
• 12:25
  Construction
• 12:26
  and
• 12:26
  have
• 12:27
  been
• 12:27
  discussing
• 12:27
  flooring
• 12:28
  for
• 12:28
  your
• 12:28
  home.
• 12:29
  Now
• 12:29
  let's
• 12:30
  get
• 12:30
  back
• 12:30
  to
• 12:30
  Kelly
• 12:31
  and
• 12:31
  Titus
• 12:31
  from
• 12:32
  Treadline.
• 12:32
  And
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  other
• 12:33
  issue
• 12:33
  is,
• 12:33
  is
• 12:34
  how
• 12:34
  do
• 12:34
  you
• 12:34
  fix
• 12:34
  that?
• 12:34
  You've
• 12:35
  got
• 12:35
  a,
• 12:35
  on
• 12:35
  a,
• 12:35
  on
• 12:36
  a
• 12:36
  pre
• 12:36
  finished
• 12:36
  floor,
• 12:37
  man,
• 12:38
  you're
• 12:38
  very
• 12:38
  limited
• 12:39
  on
• 12:39
  what
• 12:39
  you
• 12:39
  can
• 12:39
  do
• 12:39
  with
• 12:40
  that.
• 12:40
  Yeah,
• 12:41
  pre
• 12:41
  finished
• 12:41
  floors,
• 12:42
  there's
• 12:42
  a
• 12:42
  couple
• 12:43
  issues.
• 12:43
  Number
• 12:44
  one,
• 12:44
  you're
• 12:44
  typically
• 12:45
  dealing
• 12:45
  with
• 12:45
  products
• 12:46
  that
• 12:46
  are
• 12:46
  warranted
• 12:47
  by
• 12:47
  the
• 12:47
  manufacturer
• 12:48
  for
• 12:48
  a
• 12:48
  certain
• 12:48
  number
• 12:49
  of
• 12:49
  years.
• 12:49
  And
• 12:49
  if
• 12:49
  you
• 12:50
  start
• 12:50
  to
• 12:50
  mess
• 12:50
  with
• 12:50
  it,
• 12:51
  you
• 12:51
  lose
• 12:51
  your
• 12:51
  warranty.
• 12:52
  The
• 12:52
  other
• 12:52
  factor
• 12:53
  is
• 12:53
  if
• 12:53
  you're
• 12:54
  going
• 12:54
  to
• 12:54
  fix
• 12:54
  it.
• 12:55
  Generally
• 12:55
  speaking,
• 12:56
  it's
• 12:56
  hard
• 12:56
  to
• 12:56
  do
• 12:56
  individual
• 12:57
  boards
• 12:57
  unless
• 12:58
  you
• 12:58
  have
• 12:58
  leftover
• 12:59
  stock.
• 13:00
  Right.
• 13:00
  If
• 13:00
  you
• 13:01
  bought
• 13:01
  extra
• 13:01
  when
• 13:01
  you
• 13:01
  first
• 13:02
  put
• 13:02
  the
• 13:02
  floor
• 13:02
  in,
• 13:02
  which
• 13:03
  a
• 13:03
  lot
• 13:03
  of
• 13:03
  people
• 13:03
  don't
• 13:03
  even
• 13:03
  think
• 13:04
  about.
• 13:04
  But
• 13:04
  yeah,
• 13:04
  if
• 13:04
  you
• 13:05
  don't
• 13:05
  have
• 13:05
  extra
• 13:05
  boards
• 13:06
  and
• 13:06
  you
• 13:06
  go
• 13:06
  to
• 13:06
  try
• 13:06
  to
• 13:07
  replace
• 13:07
  a
• 13:07
  couple
• 13:07
  of
• 13:08
  them,
• 13:08
  that
• 13:08
  floor
• 13:09
  may
• 13:09
  not
• 13:09
  exist
• 13:09
  anymore.
• 13:10
  Or
• 13:10
  you're
• 13:11
  dealing
• 13:11
  with
• 13:11
  old
• 13:11
  versus
• 13:12
  new.
• 13:12
  Right.
• 13:12
  A
• 13:12
  floor
• 13:13
  that's
• 13:13
  been
• 13:13
  down
• 13:13
  and
• 13:14
  you've
• 13:14
  worn
• 13:14
  on
• 13:14
  it,
• 13:15
  it's
• 13:15
  been
• 13:15
  exposed,
• 13:15
  exposed
• 13:16
  to
• 13:16
  UV
• 13:16
  oxidation,
• 13:17
  wear
• 13:17
  and
• 13:17
  tear,
• 13:18
  all
• 13:18
  of
• 13:18
  that,
• 13:18
  it's
• 13:19
  going
• 13:19
  to
• 13:19
  be
• 13:19
  a
• 13:19
  different
• 13:19
  color,
• 13:20
  different
• 13:20
  sheen,
• 13:21
  all
• 13:21
  of
• 13:21
  these
• 13:21
  different
• 13:21
  factors.
• 13:22
  You
• 13:22
  bring
• 13:22
  a
• 13:23
  brand
• 13:23
  new
• 13:23
  board
• 13:23
  and
• 13:23
  put
• 13:24
  it
• 13:24
  in
• 13:24
  the
• 13:24
  middle
• 13:24
  of
• 13:24
  your
• 13:24
  floor,
• 13:25
  it's
• 13:25
  going
• 13:25
  to
• 13:25
  look
• 13:26
  kind
• 13:26
  of
• 13:26
  crappy.
• 13:27
  So
• 13:28
  those
• 13:28
  are
• 13:29
  things
• 13:29
  to
• 13:29
  think
• 13:29
  about.
• 13:30
  Well,
• 13:30
  that,
• 13:30
  that
• 13:31
  brings
• 13:31
  up
• 13:31
  a
• 13:31
  good
• 13:31
  point.
• 13:32
  Wood
• 13:32
  species
• 13:33
  is
• 13:33
  a
• 13:33
  huge
• 13:34
  deal
• 13:34
  because
• 13:35
  I
• 13:36
  love
• 13:36
  a
• 13:36
  black
• 13:37
  walnut
• 13:37
  8
• 13:38
  inch
• 13:38
  wide
• 13:38
  plank
• 13:39
  floor.
• 13:39
  But
• 13:39
  if
• 13:40
  I've
• 13:40
  got
• 13:40
  windows,
• 13:42
  that's
• 13:42
  now
• 13:42
  an
• 13:42
  issue.
• 13:43
  I've
• 13:44
  seen
• 13:44
  some
• 13:44
  stuff
• 13:44
  where
• 13:45
  it's
• 13:45
  a
• 13:45
  view
• 13:45
  home
• 13:46
  and
• 13:46
  they've
• 13:46
  got
• 13:46
  a
• 13:47
  pool
• 13:47
  and
• 13:47
  it's
• 13:48
  reflecting
• 13:48
  off
• 13:48
  a
• 13:49
  couple
• 13:49
  surfaces
• 13:49
  and
• 13:49
  all
• 13:50
  of
• 13:50
  a
• 13:50
  sudden
• 13:50
  that
• 13:51
  stuff
• 13:51
  looks
• 13:51
  like
• 13:51
  driftwood
• 13:52
  in
• 13:52
  two
• 13:52
  years
• 13:53
  because
• 13:53
  all
• 13:53
  the
• 13:54
  UV
• 13:54
  is
• 13:54
  just
• 13:54
  destroying
• 13:55
  it.
• 13:56
  Yeah,
• 13:56
  yeah.
• 13:57
  I
• 13:57
  mean,
• 13:57
  so
• 13:57
  we,
• 13:58
  there's
• 13:58
  definitely
• 13:58
  some,
• 13:59
  there's
• 13:59
  definitely
• 13:59
  differences
• 14:00
  between
• 14:00
  some
• 14:00
  of
• 14:01
  your
• 14:01
  species
• 14:01
  and
• 14:01
  your
• 14:01
  photosensitivity.
• 14:02
  Right.
• 14:03
  And
• 14:03
  then
• 14:03
  on
• 14:03
  top
• 14:04
  of
• 14:04
  that,
• 14:04
  just
• 14:04
  the
• 14:04
  hardness
• 14:05
  level.
• 14:05
  Depending
• 14:06
  on
• 14:06
  what
• 14:06
  people
• 14:06
  are
• 14:06
  planning
• 14:07
  on
• 14:07
  doing
• 14:07
  with
• 14:07
  their
• 14:07
  wood
• 14:08
  floors,
• 14:08
  you,
• 14:08
  might
• 14:08
  want
• 14:09
  to
• 14:09
  think
• 14:09
  about
• 14:09
  how
• 14:09
  hard
• 14:10
  it
• 14:10
  is
• 14:10
  if
• 14:10
  you
• 14:10
  have
• 14:11
  kids
• 14:11
  or
• 14:11
  pets
• 14:11
  or
• 14:11
  something
• 14:12
  like
• 14:12
  that.
• 14:13
  Example,
• 14:13
  like
• 14:14
  Brazilian
• 14:14
  cherry
• 14:15
  is
• 14:15
  pretty
• 14:16
  common
• 14:16
  over
• 14:16
  here
• 14:16
  in
• 14:16
  the
• 14:16
  pacific
• 14:17
  northwest.
• 14:18
  We
• 14:18
  see
• 14:18
  it
• 14:18
  on
• 14:18
  a
• 14:18
  lot
• 14:18
  of
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  houses
• 14:19
  built
• 14:19
  in
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  early
• 14:20
  2000s.
• 14:21
  Very,
• 14:21
  very
• 14:21
  hard.
• 14:22
  Comes
• 14:22
  out
• 14:22
  of
• 14:22
  the
• 14:22
  Amazon
• 14:23
  rainforest,
• 14:24
  But
• 14:24
  very
• 14:25
  photosensitive.
• 14:26
  So
• 14:26
  within
• 14:26
  about
• 14:27
  six
• 14:27
  months,
• 14:28
  you.
• 14:28
  It's
• 14:29
  already
• 14:29
  started
• 14:29
  its.
• 14:30
  Its
• 14:30
  first
• 14:30
  color
• 14:31
  cycle.
• 14:31
  And
• 14:31
  it'll
• 14:31
  go
• 14:32
  all
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  way
• 14:32
  from
• 14:32
  kind
• 14:32
  of
• 14:32
  a
• 14:33
  pale
• 14:33
  pinky
• 14:33
  red
• 14:34
  color
• 14:34
  all
• 14:34
  the
• 14:34
  way
• 14:34
  to
• 14:34
  like,
• 14:35
  a
• 14:35
  deep
• 14:35
  blood
• 14:36
  red.
• 14:36
  And
• 14:37
  the
• 14:37
  amount
• 14:37
  of
• 14:37
  times
• 14:37
  I've
• 14:38
  seen
• 14:38
  people
• 14:38
  flip
• 14:38
  their
• 14:39
  rugs,
• 14:39
  the
• 14:39
  ones
• 14:39
  that
• 14:40
  are
• 14:40
  underneath
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  sun,
• 14:41
  and
• 14:41
  it's
• 14:41
  just
• 14:42
  pale
• 14:42
  floor
• 14:43
  underneath.
• 14:43
  And
• 14:44
  the
• 14:44
  unfortunate
• 14:45
  thing
• 14:45
  is
• 14:45
  stuff
• 14:45
  like
• 14:45
  that,
• 14:46
  it
• 14:46
  just
• 14:46
  doesn't
• 14:46
  sand
• 14:47
  out.
• 14:47
  Those
• 14:47
  are
• 14:47
  just
• 14:48
  stuck
• 14:48
  forever,
• 14:49
  but
• 14:49
  very
• 14:49
  hard.
• 14:49
  They
• 14:50
  hope
• 14:50
  it
• 14:50
  catches
• 14:50
  up
• 14:50
  when
• 14:51
  they
• 14:51
  move
• 14:51
  the
• 14:51
  rug
• 14:51
  again.
• 14:52
  They
• 14:52
  do,
• 14:52
  they
• 14:53
  do.
• 14:53
  Usually
• 14:53
  if
• 14:53
  people
• 14:54
  move
• 14:54
  their
• 14:54
  rugs,
• 14:54
  Usually
• 14:55
  by
• 14:55
  year
• 14:56
  one
• 14:56
  or
• 14:56
  two,
• 14:57
  they'll
• 14:57
  start
• 14:57
  to
• 14:58
  blend
• 14:58
  together.
• 14:59
  But,
• 15:00
  yeah,
• 15:01
  I've
• 15:01
  seen
• 15:01
  that
• 15:01
  happen
• 15:02
  so
• 15:02
  many
• 15:02
  times.
• 15:02
  I've
• 15:03
  seen.
• 15:03
  I
• 15:03
  had
• 15:03
  a
• 15:03
  house
• 15:04
  probably
• 15:04
  20
• 15:04
  years
• 15:04
  ago
• 15:05
  in
• 15:05
  Seattle
• 15:05
  that
• 15:05
  they
• 15:06
  ran
• 15:06
  into
• 15:06
  some
• 15:06
  issues,
• 15:07
  and
• 15:07
  they
• 15:07
  had.
• 15:08
  The
• 15:08
  painters
• 15:09
  had.
• 15:09
  Came
• 15:09
  in
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  taped
• 15:10
  off
• 15:10
  the
• 15:10
  floor,
• 15:11
  and
• 15:11
  there
• 15:11
  was
• 15:12
  a
• 15:12
  lot
• 15:12
  of
• 15:12
  sun
• 15:12
  coming
• 15:13
  in
• 15:13
  off
• 15:13
  the
• 15:13
  puget
• 15:14
  sound,
• 15:14
  reflecting
• 15:15
  in
• 15:15
  there.
• 15:15
  And
• 15:16
  they
• 15:17
  pulled
• 15:17
  it
• 15:17
  up,
• 15:17
  and
• 15:17
  there
• 15:17
  were
• 15:18
  tape
• 15:18
  marks
• 15:18
  everywhere.
• 15:19
  And
• 15:20
  they
• 15:20
  just
• 15:20
  had
• 15:20
  to
• 15:21
  wait
• 15:21
  it
• 15:21
  out,
• 15:21
  which
• 15:22
  was
• 15:23
  not
• 15:23
  their
• 15:23
  answer
• 15:23
  they
• 15:24
  wanted
• 15:24
  to
• 15:24
  hear.
• 15:24
  But
• 15:24
  there
• 15:24
  was
• 15:25
  not
• 15:25
  really
• 15:25
  another
• 15:25
  way
• 15:26
  to
• 15:26
  deal
• 15:26
  with
• 15:26
  it.
• 15:27
  No.
• 15:28
  Yeah,
• 15:29
  it
• 15:29
  was
• 15:29
  on
• 15:30
  the
• 15:30
  cabinet.
• 15:30
  So
• 15:30
  it
• 15:30
  had
• 15:30
  cherry
• 15:31
  cabinets.
• 15:31
  It
• 15:31
  was
• 15:31
  on
• 15:31
  the
• 15:32
  floor.
• 15:32
  It
• 15:32
  was
• 15:32
  just
• 15:33
  one
• 15:33
  of
• 15:33
  those
• 15:33
  things
• 15:33
  where
• 15:33
  it
• 15:33
  was
• 15:34
  just
• 15:34
  a.
• 15:35
  All
• 15:35
  right,
• 15:35
  guys.
• 15:35
  I
• 15:35
  mean,
• 15:36
  the.
• 15:36
  The
• 15:36
  contractors
• 15:37
  were
• 15:37
  in
• 15:37
  there
• 15:37
  trying
• 15:37
  to
• 15:38
  take
• 15:38
  the.
• 15:39
  Put
• 15:39
  halogen
• 15:39
  lights
• 15:40
  and
• 15:40
  taking
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  UV
• 15:41
  filters
• 15:41
  off,
• 15:41
  Trying
• 15:42
  to
• 15:42
  get
• 15:42
  stuff
• 15:43
  to.
• 15:43
  To
• 15:43
  equal
• 15:44
  out.
• 15:44
  But
• 15:44
  it
• 15:44
  was
• 15:44
  a
• 15:45
  nightmare.
• 15:45
  And
• 15:46
  sometimes
• 15:46
  that
• 15:46
  tape
• 15:47
  can
• 15:47
  cause
• 15:47
  a
• 15:47
  headache
• 15:47
  with
• 15:48
  something
• 15:48
  that's
• 15:48
  really,
• 15:49
  really
• 15:49
  sensitive.
• 15:50
  Like
• 15:50
  that.
• 15:50
  Exactly.
• 15:51
  Well,
• 15:51
  it's
• 15:51
  important
• 15:52
  to
• 15:52
  note
• 15:52
  that
• 15:52
  all
• 15:53
  floors,
• 15:53
  all
• 15:54
  wood
• 15:54
  species,
• 15:54
  are
• 15:55
  sensitive
• 15:55
  in
• 15:55
  some
• 15:56
  form
• 15:56
  or
• 15:56
  fashion
• 15:57
  to
• 15:58
  light.
• 15:58
  And
• 15:59
  again,
• 15:59
  oxidation,
• 16:00
  wear
• 16:00
  and
• 16:00
  tear,
• 16:00
  all
• 16:00
  of
• 16:00
  that,
• 16:01
  they
• 16:01
  will
• 16:01
  change
• 16:01
  color
• 16:02
  over
• 16:02
  time.
• 16:03
  There
• 16:03
  are
• 16:03
  just
• 16:03
  certain
• 16:04
  species
• 16:04
  that
• 16:04
  are
• 16:05
  more
• 16:05
  pro
• 16:06
  than
• 16:06
  others.
• 16:07
  Right.
• 16:08
  So
• 16:08
  typically,
• 16:08
  most
• 16:09
  people
• 16:09
  here
• 16:09
  in
• 16:09
  the
• 16:09
  northwest
• 16:10
  have,
• 16:10
  like,
• 16:10
  an
• 16:10
  oak
• 16:10
  floor,
• 16:11
  Red
• 16:11
  oak,
• 16:11
  white
• 16:11
  oak,
• 16:12
  something
• 16:12
  like
• 16:12
  that.
• 16:13
  There
• 16:13
  are
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  popular
• 16:14
  exotics,
• 16:15
  Brazilian
• 16:15
  cherry,
• 16:16
  walnuts,
• 16:17
  things
• 16:17
  like
• 16:17
  that.
• 16:18
  But
• 16:18
  there
• 16:19
  are
• 16:19
  species
• 16:20
  that
• 16:20
  are
• 16:20
  more
• 16:20
  photosensitive
• 16:21
  than
• 16:22
  others.
• 16:22
  So
• 16:22
  if
• 16:22
  that's
• 16:22
  something
• 16:23
  that
• 16:23
  somebody
• 16:23
  would
• 16:23
  be
• 16:23
  concerned
• 16:24
  about.
• 16:25
  And
• 16:25
  if
• 16:25
  you're
• 16:25
  very
• 16:26
  sensitive
• 16:26
  and
• 16:26
  you
• 16:26
  can't
• 16:27
  stand
• 16:27
  having
• 16:27
  those
• 16:28
  lines
• 16:28
  or
• 16:29
  issues
• 16:29
  show
• 16:30
  up,
• 16:30
  then
• 16:30
  you
• 16:30
  should
• 16:31
  stay
• 16:31
  away
• 16:31
  from
• 16:31
  those
• 16:32
  species
• 16:32
  that
• 16:32
  are
• 16:32
  more
• 16:33
  photosensitive,
• 16:34
  for
• 16:34
  sure.
• 16:35
  Well,
• 16:35
  in
• 16:35
  the
• 16:35
  90s
• 16:36
  and
• 16:36
  2000s,
• 16:37
  we
• 16:37
  saw
• 16:37
  hard
• 16:37
  rock
• 16:38
  maple
• 16:38
  going
• 16:38
  in
• 16:39
  places
• 16:39
  and
• 16:39
  things
• 16:39
  like
• 16:40
  that.
• 16:40
  And
• 16:40
  boy,
• 16:40
  that
• 16:41
  stuff
• 16:41
  can
• 16:41
  yellow
• 16:42
  and
• 16:42
  look
• 16:42
  not
• 16:42
  what
• 16:42
  you
• 16:43
  hope
• 16:43
  it
• 16:43
  looked
• 16:43
  for.
• 16:44
  And
• 16:44
  pretty
• 16:45
  quickly,
• 16:45
  depending
• 16:45
  on
• 16:45
  the,
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  finish.
• 16:46
  And
• 16:47
  again,
• 16:47
  how
• 16:47
  much
• 16:48
  UV
• 16:48
  control
• 16:48
  is
• 16:48
  coming
• 16:49
  into
• 16:49
  that
• 16:49
  place.
• 16:49
  It
• 16:49
  seems
• 16:50
  absolutely
• 16:51
  there
• 16:51
  are
• 16:52
  ways
• 16:52
  that
• 16:52
  you
• 16:52
  can
• 16:52
  kind
• 16:52
  of
• 16:53
  minimize
• 16:53
  some
• 16:53
  of
• 16:53
  that
• 16:54
  too.
• 16:54
  There
• 16:54
  are
• 16:54
  some
• 16:54
  additives
• 16:55
  that
• 16:55
  you
• 16:55
  can
• 16:56
  put
• 16:56
  into
• 16:56
  some
• 16:56
  of
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  finishes
• 16:57
  nowadays
• 16:57
  that
• 16:57
  are
• 16:58
  like
• 16:58
  UV
• 16:58
  filters.
• 16:59
  They
• 16:59
  act
• 17:00
  as
• 17:00
  almost
• 17:00
  like
• 17:00
  a,
• 17:00
  like
• 17:01
  a
• 17:01
  sunscreen
• 17:02
  that'll
• 17:02
  slow
• 17:02
  down
• 17:02
  that
• 17:03
  process.
• 17:03
  I
• 17:04
  usually
• 17:04
  will
• 17:04
  recommend
• 17:05
  those
• 17:05
  if
• 17:05
  people
• 17:05
  do
• 17:06
  have
• 17:06
  photosensitive
• 17:07
  woods
• 17:07
  like
• 17:07
  maple
• 17:08
  or
• 17:08
  Brazilian
• 17:08
  cherry
• 17:09
  or
• 17:09
  walnut.
• 17:10
  And
• 17:10
  then
• 17:10
  also
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  can
• 17:12
  manipulate
• 17:13
  with
• 17:13
  color.
• 17:13
  So
• 17:13
  stain
• 17:14
  color.
• 17:14
  Right.
• 17:15
  So
• 17:15
  you
• 17:15
  could,
• 17:16
  you
• 17:16
  can
• 17:16
  utilize
• 17:17
  a
• 17:17
  stain
• 17:17
  color
• 17:18
  which
• 17:18
  will
• 17:18
  also
• 17:19
  kind
• 17:19
  of
• 17:19
  act
• 17:19
  as
• 17:19
  like
• 17:20
  a
• 17:20
  sunscreen
• 17:20
  for
• 17:21
  your
• 17:21
  wood
• 17:21
  and
• 17:21
  it
• 17:21
  will
• 17:22
  slow
• 17:22
  down
• 17:22
  that,
• 17:22
  that
• 17:23
  color
• 17:23
  change
• 17:23
  process.
• 17:24
  Again,
• 17:24
  it
• 17:24
  will
• 17:25
  absolutely
• 17:25
  still
• 17:26
  change
• 17:26
  over
• 17:26
  time.
• 17:27
  You
• 17:27
  just
• 17:28
  may
• 17:28
  not
• 17:28
  be
• 17:28
  able
• 17:28
  to
• 17:29
  see
• 17:29
  it
• 17:29
  with
• 17:29
  the
• 17:29
  naked
• 17:30
  eye
• 17:30
  kind
• 17:30
  of
• 17:30
  a.
• 17:31
  So
• 17:31
  that's
• 17:32
  another
• 17:32
  way
• 17:32
  that
• 17:32
  you
• 17:33
  can
• 17:33
  kind
• 17:33
  of
• 17:33
  address
• 17:34
  some
• 17:34
  of
• 17:34
  those
• 17:34
  issues.
• 17:36
  That's
• 17:36
  cool.
• 17:36
  I
• 17:37
  like
• 17:37
  that.
• 17:38
  Now
• 17:38
  there's
• 17:38
  so
• 17:39
  many
• 17:39
  new,
• 17:39
  a
• 17:40
  lot
• 17:40
  of
• 17:40
  changes
• 17:40
  I'm
• 17:41
  seeing
• 17:41
  out
• 17:41
  there
• 17:41
  when
• 17:42
  it
• 17:42
  comes
• 17:42
  to
• 17:42
  hardwoods.
• 17:43
  I'm
• 17:43
  seeing
• 17:43
  companies
• 17:44
  now
• 17:44
  starting
• 17:45
  to
• 17:45
  advertise.
• 17:46
  And
• 17:46
  again,
• 17:47
  this
• 17:47
  is,
• 17:47
  I
• 17:47
  don't
• 17:47
  know
• 17:47
  the
• 17:47
  answer
• 17:48
  to
• 17:48
  this,
• 17:48
  but
• 17:48
  I'm
• 17:48
  hearing
• 17:49
  companies
• 17:49
  actually
• 17:49
  advertise.
• 17:50
  We've
• 17:50
  got
• 17:51
  waterproof
• 17:52
  hardwood
• 17:52
  floors.
• 17:54
  How
• 17:54
  do
• 17:54
  you
• 17:55
  do
• 17:55
  that?
• 17:56
  I,
• 17:56
  I,
• 17:56
  I,
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  scratch
• 17:57
  my
• 17:57
  head
• 17:58
  as
• 17:58
  a
• 17:59
  former
• 17:59
  contractor
• 18:00
  DIYer
• 18:01
  and
• 18:01
  Go,
• 18:01
  all
• 18:01
  right,
• 18:02
  there's
• 18:02
  a
• 18:02
  cut
• 18:02
  in
• 18:02
  there
• 18:02
  someplace.
• 18:03
  How
• 18:03
  are
• 18:03
  you
• 18:03
  going
• 18:03
  to
• 18:03
  do
• 18:03
  that?
• 18:04
  It
• 18:04
  doesn't
• 18:04
  make
• 18:04
  sense
• 18:05
  to
• 18:05
  me.
• 18:05
  But
• 18:05
  is
• 18:06
  there
• 18:06
  actually
• 18:06
  a
• 18:06
  product
• 18:06
  out
• 18:07
  there
• 18:07
  that's
• 18:07
  kind
• 18:08
  of
• 18:08
  like
• 18:08
  that,
• 18:08
  at
• 18:08
  least?
• 18:09
  Well,
• 18:10
  when
• 18:10
  people
• 18:10
  are
• 18:10
  talking
• 18:11
  about
• 18:11
  waterproof
• 18:11
  floors,
• 18:12
  they're
• 18:12
  likely
• 18:12
  talking
• 18:13
  about
• 18:13
  some
• 18:13
  of
• 18:13
  your,
• 18:13
  your
• 18:14
  plastic
• 18:14
  vinyl
• 18:14
  products,
• 18:15
  the
• 18:15
  click
• 18:15
  materials,
• 18:16
  things
• 18:16
  like
• 18:16
  that,
• 18:16
  I
• 18:17
  assume
• 18:17
  is
• 18:17
  what
• 18:17
  you're
• 18:17
  referring
• 18:18
  to.
• 18:18
  And
• 18:19
  when
• 18:20
  it
• 18:20
  comes
• 18:20
  to
• 18:20
  those,
• 18:20
  the
• 18:21
  product
• 18:21
  itself,
• 18:22
  yeah,
• 18:22
  it's
• 18:23
  waterproof
• 18:23
  in
• 18:23
  that
• 18:24
  in
• 18:24
  essence,
• 18:24
  it's
• 18:25
  just
• 18:25
  a
• 18:25
  hunk
• 18:25
  of
• 18:25
  plastic.
• 18:26
  Right.
• 18:27
  But
• 18:27
  there's
• 18:27
  so
• 18:27
  many
• 18:28
  other
• 18:28
  factors
• 18:28
  involved.
• 18:29
  Like
• 18:29
  could
• 18:29
  I
• 18:29
  install
• 18:29
  it
• 18:30
  at
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  bot
• 18:30
  my
• 18:30
  swimming
• 18:31
  pool
• 18:31
  and
• 18:31
  it
• 18:31
  would
• 18:31
  probably
• 18:31
  be
• 18:32
  fine.
• 18:32
  Yeah.
• 18:32
  But
• 18:33
  on
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  other
• 18:33
  hand,
• 18:33
  it's
• 18:34
  not
• 18:34
  impermeable
• 18:35
  to
• 18:35
  water
• 18:36
  in
• 18:36
  the
• 18:36
  sense
• 18:36
  that
• 18:36
  if
• 18:36
  someone
• 18:37
  spills
• 18:37
  something
• 18:38
  or
• 18:38
  something
• 18:39
  like
• 18:39
  that,
• 18:39
  it
• 18:39
  will
• 18:39
  still
• 18:40
  seep
• 18:40
  between
• 18:41
  the
• 18:41
  gaps.
• 18:41
  And
• 18:41
  then
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  real
• 18:42
  problem
• 18:42
  that
• 18:42
  you're
• 18:42
  going
• 18:43
  to
• 18:43
  have
• 18:43
  is
• 18:43
  because
• 18:43
  it's
• 18:44
  like
• 18:44
  a
• 18:44
  solid
• 18:44
  layer
• 18:44
  of
• 18:45
  plastic,
• 18:45
  this
• 18:45
  moisture
• 18:46
  gets
• 18:47
  trapped
• 18:47
  underneath
• 18:48
  it
• 18:48
  and
• 18:48
  it'll
• 18:49
  end
• 18:49
  up
• 18:49
  rotting
• 18:49
  out
• 18:49
  your
• 18:50
  subfloor.
• 18:50
  We've
• 18:50
  seen
• 18:51
  that
• 18:51
  countless
• 18:51
  times
• 18:51
  and
• 18:52
  it
• 18:52
  seems
• 18:52
  to
• 18:52
  be,
• 18:53
  we
• 18:53
  see
• 18:53
  it
• 18:53
  more
• 18:54
  now
• 18:54
  than
• 18:54
  we
• 18:54
  have
• 18:54
  ever
• 18:55
  in
• 18:55
  the
• 18:55
  sense
• 18:55
  that
• 18:55
  these
• 18:56
  LVTs
• 18:56
  and
• 18:57
  SPCs,
• 18:58
  these
• 18:58
  plastic
• 18:58
  floors
• 18:59
  have
• 18:59
  kind
• 18:59
  of
• 19:00
  taken
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  world
• 19:00
  by
• 19:01
  storm.
• 19:01
  And
• 19:01
  it's
• 19:01
  been
• 19:01
  a
• 19:01
  bit
• 19:02
  of
• 19:02
  a
• 19:02
  challenge
• 19:03
  for
• 19:03
  us
• 19:03
  people
• 19:04
  pushing
• 19:04
  real
• 19:04
  hardwood
• 19:05
  because
• 19:05
  it's
• 19:06
  real
• 19:07
  and,
• 19:08
  and
• 19:08
  so
• 19:08
  we've,
• 19:09
  we've
• 19:09
  started
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  see
• 19:10
  more
• 19:10
  and
• 19:10
  more
• 19:10
  of
• 19:10
  that
• 19:11
  start
• 19:11
  to
• 19:11
  appear.
• 19:11
  But
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  guess
• 19:12
  to
• 19:12
  answer
• 19:12
  your
• 19:12
  question,
• 19:13
  they
• 19:13
  are
• 19:13
  waterproof.
• 19:14
  Yeah.
• 19:15
  There's
• 19:15
  a
• 19:15
  hardwood
• 19:16
  company
• 19:16
  up
• 19:16
  in
• 19:17
  Seattle,
• 19:17
  I
• 19:17
  forgot
• 19:17
  what
• 19:17
  their
• 19:18
  name
• 19:18
  is,
• 19:18
  but
• 19:18
  they're
• 19:18
  actually
• 19:19
  trying
• 19:19
  to
• 19:19
  promote
• 19:19
  a
• 19:20
  waterproof
• 19:20
  solid
• 19:21
  hardwood.
• 19:22
  And
• 19:22
  they
• 19:23
  say
• 19:23
  it's
• 19:23
  in
• 19:23
  their
• 19:23
  finish.
• 19:24
  I'm
• 19:24
  like,
• 19:24
  man,
• 19:25
  there's
• 19:25
  no
• 19:25
  way
• 19:25
  I
• 19:26
  would
• 19:26
  put
• 19:26
  that
• 19:26
  in
• 19:26
  a
• 19:26
  bathroom
• 19:27
  and
• 19:27
  expect
• 19:27
  that
• 19:28
  to
• 19:28
  get
• 19:28
  not
• 19:28
  damaged
• 19:30
  just
• 19:30
  with
• 19:30
  kids
• 19:31
  or
• 19:31
  anything
• 19:31
  else.
• 19:31
  But
• 19:32
  that's
• 19:32
  me
• 19:33
  there.
• 19:33
  There
• 19:34
  are
• 19:34
  a
• 19:34
  couple
• 19:34
  products
• 19:35
  out
• 19:35
  there
• 19:35
  where
• 19:36
  they've
• 19:36
  used
• 19:36
  some
• 19:37
  sort
• 19:37
  of
• 19:37
  form
• 19:37
  or
• 19:38
  fashion
• 19:38
  to
• 19:38
  almost
• 19:39
  like
• 19:39
  impregnate
• 19:40
  the
• 19:40
  actual
• 19:40
  wood
• 19:40
  species
• 19:41
  itself
• 19:41
  with
• 19:42
  some
• 19:42
  sort
• 19:43
  of
• 19:44
  finish
• 19:45
  type
• 19:45
  material.
• 19:46
  It's
• 19:47
  it.
• 19:47
  They're
• 19:47
  pretty
• 19:47
  unique.
• 19:48
  They're
• 19:48
  not
• 19:48
  popular
• 19:49
  on
• 19:49
  the
• 19:49
  market,
• 19:49
  but
• 19:50
  there
• 19:50
  are
• 19:50
  a
• 19:50
  few
• 19:50
  out
• 19:50
  there.
• 19:51
  So
• 19:51
  they,
• 19:51
  it
• 19:51
  could
• 19:52
  be
• 19:52
  one
• 19:52
  of
• 19:52
  those
• 19:52
  products
• 19:53
  that
• 19:53
  they're
• 19:53
  utilizing
• 19:54
  that
• 19:54
  sort
• 19:54
  of
• 19:55
  technology.
• 19:56
  I've
• 19:56
  also
• 19:56
  seen
• 19:57
  some
• 19:57
  where
• 19:58
  instead
• 19:58
  of
• 19:58
  like
• 19:59
  a
• 19:59
  typical
• 19:59
  wood
• 20:00
  backing
• 20:00
  on
• 20:00
  a
• 20:00
  like
• 20:01
  an
• 20:01
  eng.
• 20:01
  Vineyard
• 20:01
  floor,
• 20:02
  they'll
• 20:02
  use
• 20:03
  a
• 20:03
  plastic
• 20:03
  backing.
• 20:04
  So
• 20:04
  it's
• 20:04
  an
• 20:04
  actual
• 20:05
  piece
• 20:05
  of
• 20:06
  wood
• 20:06
  that's
• 20:07
  kind
• 20:07
  of
• 20:07
  been
• 20:07
  almost
• 20:08
  seated
• 20:08
  in
• 20:09
  a
• 20:09
  plastic
• 20:10
  form
• 20:11
  of
• 20:11
  the
• 20:11
  core,
• 20:12
  if
• 20:12
  you
• 20:12
  will.
• 20:13
  So
• 20:13
  some
• 20:13
  of
• 20:14
  those
• 20:14
  they'll
• 20:14
  try
• 20:14
  to
• 20:15
  pass
• 20:15
  on
• 20:15
  as
• 20:16
  quote
• 20:16
  unquote,
• 20:16
  real
• 20:17
  wood
• 20:17
  that's
• 20:18
  waterproof
• 20:19
  and
• 20:19
  like
• 20:19
  Titus
• 20:20
  said.
• 20:21
  Yeah,
• 20:21
  could
• 20:21
  you
• 20:21
  put
• 20:22
  it
• 20:22
  in
• 20:22
  your
• 20:22
  pool
• 20:22
  and
• 20:22
  it'd
• 20:23
  probably
• 20:23
  be
• 20:23
  fine.
• 20:23
  But
• 20:24
  there
• 20:24
  are
• 20:24
  other
• 20:24
  factors
• 20:25
  that
• 20:25
  may
• 20:25
  go
• 20:26
  into
• 20:26
  the
• 20:26
  fact
• 20:26
  that
• 20:26
  it's.
• 20:27
  That's
• 20:27
  maybe
• 20:28
  not
• 20:28
  quite
• 20:28
  as
• 20:29
  waterproof,
• 20:30
  lifeproof,
• 20:31
  you
• 20:31
  know,
• 20:31
  impenetrable.
• 20:32
  A
• 20:33
  lot
• 20:33
  of
• 20:33
  those
• 20:33
  tend
• 20:33
  to
• 20:34
  be
• 20:34
  a
• 20:34
  marketing
• 20:35
  gimmicks
• 20:35
  when
• 20:36
  it
• 20:36
  comes
• 20:36
  down
• 20:36
  to
• 20:36
  it.
• 20:36
  I
• 20:37
  mean,
• 20:37
  if
• 20:37
  you
• 20:37
  really
• 20:37
  look
• 20:37
  at
• 20:38
  the
• 20:38
  warranty
• 20:38
  information,
• 20:39
  a
• 20:39
  lot
• 20:39
  of
• 20:39
  times
• 20:39
  there's
• 20:40
  a
• 20:40
  lot
• 20:40
  of
• 20:40
  disclaimers.
• 20:41
  So.
• 20:42
  So
• 20:42
  just
• 20:42
  be
• 20:43
  careful
• 20:43
  what
• 20:43
  you're,
• 20:44
  what
• 20:44
  you're
• 20:44
  picking
• 20:44
  and
• 20:44
  make
• 20:45
  sure
• 20:45
  you
• 20:45
  understand
• 20:45
  the
• 20:46
  entire
• 20:46
  product
• 20:46
  is
• 20:47
  what
• 20:47
  I
• 20:47
  would
• 20:47
  say.
• 20:48
  Yeah,
• 20:49
  there
• 20:49
  was
• 20:49
  one
• 20:49
  time,
• 20:49
  this
• 20:50
  is
• 20:50
  probably
• 20:51
  25
• 20:51
  years
• 20:51
  ago,
• 20:52
  when
• 20:52
  Bamboo
• 20:52
  Boo
• 20:53
  first
• 20:53
  came
• 20:53
  on
• 20:53
  the
• 20:53
  market.
• 20:53
  And
• 20:54
  I
• 20:54
  went,
• 20:54
  I'm
• 20:54
  going
• 20:54
  to
• 20:54
  try
• 20:54
  this
• 20:55
  maybe
• 20:55
  30
• 20:56
  years
• 20:56
  ago.
• 20:56
  It
• 20:56
  was
• 20:56
  a
• 20:56
  long
• 20:57
  time
• 20:57
  ago.
• 20:57
  It
• 20:57
  was
• 20:57
  when
• 20:57
  it
• 20:58
  first
• 20:58
  showed
• 20:58
  up
• 20:58
  at
• 20:58
  Costco.
• 20:59
  To
• 21:00
  find
• 21:00
  out
• 21:00
  more,
• 21:00
  head
• 21:01
  to
• 21:01
  aroundthehouse
• 21:02
  online.com
• 21:04
  around
• 21:04
  the
• 21:04
  house.
• 21:04
  We'll
• 21:05
  be
• 21:05
  right
• 21:05
  back
• 21:05
  with
• 21:06
  more
• 21:06
  from
• 21:06
  Treadline
• 21:07
  as
• 21:07
  we
• 21:07
  talk
• 21:08
  about
• 21:08
  the
• 21:08
  secrets
• 21:09
  of
• 21:09
  flooring.
• 22:59
  Welcome
• 22:59
  back
• 22:59
  to
• 23:00
  the
• 23:00
  around
• 23:00
  the
• 23:00
  House
• 23:01
  Show.
• 23:01
  Eric
• 23:02
  G.
• 23:02
  Has
• 23:02
  been
• 23:02
  chatting
• 23:03
  with
• 23:03
  Portland,
• 23:03
  Oregon's
• 23:04
  Treadline
• 23:04
  Construction
• 23:06
  and
• 23:06
  have
• 23:06
  been
• 23:06
  discussing
• 23:07
  flooring
• 23:07
  for
• 23:07
  your
• 23:08
  home.
• 23:08
  Now
• 23:09
  let's
• 23:09
  get
• 23:09
  back
• 23:09
  to
• 23:10
  Kelly
• 23:10
  and
• 23:10
  Titus
• 23:11
  from
• 23:11
  Treadline.
• 23:12
  And
• 23:12
  I
• 23:12
  went,
• 23:13
  oh,
• 23:13
  I'm
• 23:13
  gonna
• 23:13
  do
• 23:13
  this
• 23:13
  on
• 23:13
  my
• 23:13
  entryway
• 23:14
  and
• 23:14
  see
• 23:14
  how
• 23:14
  it
• 23:14
  worked.
• 23:15
  I
• 23:15
  had
• 23:15
  it
• 23:15
  in
• 23:15
  there
• 23:16
  for
• 23:16
  maybe
• 23:16
  a
• 23:16
  month
• 23:16
  and
• 23:16
  a
• 23:16
  half
• 23:17
  and
• 23:17
  I'm
• 23:17
  like,
• 23:17
  this
• 23:18
  is
• 23:18
  coming
• 23:18
  out.
• 23:19
  It
• 23:20
  could
• 23:20
  not
• 23:20
  hand.
• 23:21
  I
• 23:21
  was
• 23:21
  like,
• 23:21
  this
• 23:22
  is
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  most
• 23:22
  horrible
• 23:23
  product.
• 23:24
  It
• 23:24
  was
• 23:24
  just
• 23:25
  getting,
• 23:25
  I
• 23:25
  had
• 23:25
  kids,
• 23:26
  but
• 23:26
  it
• 23:26
  was
• 23:26
  just
• 23:26
  getting
• 23:27
  tore
• 23:27
  up
• 23:27
  so
• 23:28
  quickly
• 23:28
  and
• 23:28
  boy,
• 23:29
  I'm
• 23:29
  happy
• 23:29
  I
• 23:30
  didn't
• 23:30
  do
• 23:30
  the
• 23:30
  whole
• 23:30
  house
• 23:30
  with
• 23:31
  it.
• 23:31
  But
• 23:31
  it
• 23:31
  was
• 23:31
  just
• 23:33
  fell
• 23:33
  apart
• 23:33
  so
• 23:34
  quickly.
• 23:34
  Once
• 23:34
  you
• 23:34
  got
• 23:34
  through
• 23:35
  the
• 23:35
  wear
• 23:35
  layer
• 23:35
  on
• 23:35
  it,
• 23:36
  it
• 23:36
  just
• 23:36
  came
• 23:37
  apart
• 23:37
  like
• 23:37
  it
• 23:37
  was
• 23:37
  grass.
• 23:38
  It
• 23:38
  was
• 23:38
  kind
• 23:38
  of.
• 23:39
  It
• 23:39
  is,
• 23:39
  it
• 23:39
  is.
• 23:39
  Basically
• 23:40
  it's
• 23:40
  a
• 23:41
  fast
• 23:41
  growing
• 23:42
  tree,
• 23:42
  ish,
• 23:43
  grass,
• 23:44
  whatever
• 23:44
  you
• 23:44
  want
• 23:44
  to
• 23:44
  call
• 23:44
  it.
• 23:45
  And
• 23:45
  basically
• 23:46
  they
• 23:46
  just
• 23:46
  take
• 23:46
  the
• 23:46
  fibers,
• 23:47
  pull
• 23:47
  them
• 23:47
  all
• 23:48
  apart
• 23:48
  and
• 23:48
  then
• 23:48
  put
• 23:48
  them
• 23:49
  back
• 23:49
  together
• 23:49
  with
• 23:49
  a
• 23:50
  bunch
• 23:50
  of
• 23:50
  resins.
• 23:51
  And
• 23:51
  they're
• 23:52
  very
• 23:52
  sensitive
• 23:53
  to
• 23:53
  moisture,
• 23:54
  so
• 23:54
  a
• 23:54
  lot
• 23:54
  of
• 23:54
  people
• 23:54
  don't
• 23:55
  realize
• 23:55
  that.
• 23:55
  So
• 23:55
  in
• 23:56
  an
• 23:56
  entry
• 23:56
  where
• 23:56
  you've
• 23:57
  got
• 23:57
  people
• 23:57
  tracking
• 23:58
  in
• 23:58
  mud
• 23:58
  and
• 23:59
  rain
• 23:59
  and
• 23:59
  whatever
• 24:00
  all
• 24:00
  day,
• 24:01
  obviously
• 24:01
  it's
• 24:01
  not
• 24:02
  going
• 24:02
  to
• 24:02
  be
• 24:02
  a
• 24:02
  good
• 24:02
  fit.
• 24:03
  A
• 24:03
  lot
• 24:03
  of
• 24:03
  the
• 24:03
  bamboo
• 24:04
  products
• 24:04
  that
• 24:04
  are
• 24:04
  now
• 24:05
  out
• 24:05
  on
• 24:05
  the
• 24:05
  market,
• 24:06
  they
• 24:06
  still
• 24:06
  have
• 24:06
  a
• 24:07
  very
• 24:07
  high
• 24:07
  hardness
• 24:08
  durability
• 24:09
  to
• 24:10
  them,
• 24:10
  but
• 24:10
  they're
• 24:11
  so
• 24:11
  linear
• 24:12
  in,
• 24:12
  in
• 24:12
  their
• 24:13
  look.
• 24:13
  Every
• 24:13
  scratch,
• 24:14
  dent
• 24:14
  and
• 24:14
  ding,
• 24:15
  you
• 24:15
  can
• 24:15
  see
• 24:15
  right
• 24:16
  away.
• 24:16
  And
• 24:16
  then
• 24:16
  again,
• 24:17
  they're
• 24:17
  pretty
• 24:17
  sensitive
• 24:17
  to
• 24:18
  moisture.
• 24:18
  So
• 24:19
  they
• 24:19
  could
• 24:19
  be
• 24:19
  a
• 24:19
  right
• 24:20
  fit
• 24:20
  for
• 24:20
  the
• 24:20
  right
• 24:20
  person
• 24:21
  in
• 24:21
  the
• 24:21
  right
• 24:21
  home.
• 24:22
  Everybody's
• 24:22
  got
• 24:22
  a
• 24:22
  little
• 24:23
  bit
• 24:23
  different
• 24:23
  lifestyle,
• 24:23
  a
• 24:24
  little
• 24:24
  bit
• 24:24
  different
• 24:24
  expectation
• 24:25
  of
• 24:25
  what
• 24:25
  they
• 24:25
  want
• 24:25
  their
• 24:26
  floor
• 24:26
  to
• 24:26
  do.
• 24:27
  So
• 24:27
  finding
• 24:28
  the
• 24:28
  right
• 24:28
  floor,
• 24:29
  whether
• 24:29
  it's
• 24:29
  the
• 24:29
  right
• 24:29
  species,
• 24:30
  the
• 24:30
  right
• 24:30
  color,
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  right
• 24:31
  texture,
• 24:32
  the
• 24:32
  right
• 24:32
  format,
• 24:33
  whether
• 24:33
  it's
• 24:33
  solid
• 24:33
  or
• 24:34
  engineered
• 24:34
  or
• 24:34
  anything
• 24:35
  like
• 24:35
  that.
• 24:35
  There's
• 24:35
  a
• 24:35
  lot
• 24:35
  of
• 24:35
  factors
• 24:36
  that
• 24:36
  go
• 24:36
  into
• 24:36
  picking
• 24:37
  the
• 24:37
  right
• 24:37
  floor,
• 24:37
  and
• 24:37
  not
• 24:37
  every
• 24:38
  floor
• 24:38
  is
• 24:38
  right
• 24:38
  for
• 24:38
  everybody.
• 24:39
  Great
• 24:39
  point,
• 24:40
  Kelly.
• 24:40
  Great
• 24:40
  point.
• 24:41
  And
• 24:41
  one
• 24:41
  of
• 24:41
  the
• 24:42
  things
• 24:42
  too
• 24:42
  is
• 24:42
  you
• 24:42
  got
• 24:42
  to
• 24:42
  be
• 24:43
  very
• 24:43
  careful,
• 24:43
  you
• 24:43
  know
• 24:43
  where
• 24:44
  that's
• 24:44
  coming
• 24:44
  from
• 24:44
  because
• 24:45
  I've
• 24:45
  seen
• 24:45
  some
• 24:46
  of
• 24:46
  the
• 24:46
  bamboo
• 24:46
  products
• 24:46
  come
• 24:47
  out
• 24:47
  with
• 24:47
  just,
• 24:48
  they
• 24:48
  keep
• 24:49
  it
• 24:49
  from
• 24:49
  turning
• 24:50
  black
• 24:50
  because
• 24:50
  They've
• 24:51
  dipped
• 24:51
  it
• 24:51
  in
• 24:51
  formaldehyde
• 24:53
  overseas
• 24:54
  and
• 24:54
  you
• 24:54
  could
• 24:54
  have
• 24:55
  some
• 24:55
  other
• 24:55
  health
• 24:55
  issues
• 24:55
  with
• 24:55
  that.
• 24:56
  If
• 24:56
  you're
• 24:56
  sensitive
• 24:56
  to
• 24:56
  that.
• 24:57
  It's
• 24:57
  something
• 24:57
  you
• 24:57
  gotta
• 24:57
  be
• 24:57
  really
• 24:57
  careful
• 24:58
  with.
• 24:59
  Sure.
• 24:59
  There's
• 24:59
  certainly
• 25:00
  products
• 25:00
  out
• 25:00
  there.
• 25:01
  You,
• 25:01
  you
• 25:01
  want
• 25:01
  a
• 25:02
  quality
• 25:02
  product.
• 25:02
  When
• 25:03
  you're,
• 25:03
  when
• 25:03
  you're
• 25:03
  purchasing
• 25:04
  something,
• 25:04
  it's
• 25:04
  a
• 25:04
  pretty
• 25:05
  big
• 25:05
  investment
• 25:05
  for
• 25:06
  just
• 25:06
  about
• 25:06
  anybody.
• 25:07
  This
• 25:07
  is
• 25:07
  not
• 25:07
  a
• 25:08
  small
• 25:08
  investment.
• 25:08
  Even,
• 25:09
  even
• 25:09
  if
• 25:09
  you're
• 25:09
  going
• 25:09
  for
• 25:09
  a
• 25:09
  lower
• 25:10
  cost
• 25:10
  floor,
• 25:11
  it's
• 25:11
  still
• 25:11
  a
• 25:11
  pretty
• 25:11
  big
• 25:12
  investment
• 25:12
  and
• 25:12
  something
• 25:13
  that
• 25:13
  you
• 25:13
  should
• 25:13
  be
• 25:13
  able
• 25:14
  to
• 25:14
  live
• 25:14
  on
• 25:14
  for
• 25:15
  decades
• 25:15
  if
• 25:15
  it's
• 25:16
  the
• 25:16
  right
• 25:16
  floor.
• 25:17
  But
• 25:17
  if
• 25:17
  you're
• 25:17
  choosing
• 25:17
  something
• 25:18
  that's
• 25:18
  a
• 25:18
  little
• 25:18
  bit
• 25:18
  inferior
• 25:19
  quality,
• 25:19
  you
• 25:20
  don't
• 25:20
  know
• 25:20
  where
• 25:20
  it
• 25:20
  came
• 25:20
  from
• 25:21
  there,
• 25:21
  There
• 25:21
  could
• 25:22
  be
• 25:22
  all
• 25:22
  kinds
• 25:22
  of
• 25:22
  different
• 25:23
  things
• 25:23
  that
• 25:23
  could
• 25:23
  affect
• 25:24
  the
• 25:24
  outcome
• 25:25
  of
• 25:25
  how
• 25:25
  it,
• 25:26
  how
• 25:26
  you
• 25:26
  wear
• 25:27
  on
• 25:27
  it,
• 25:27
  whether
• 25:27
  it's
• 25:28
  off
• 25:28
  gassing,
• 25:28
  certain
• 25:29
  things.
• 25:29
  Definitely
• 25:29
  do
• 25:30
  your
• 25:30
  research
• 25:30
  and
• 25:31
  into
• 25:31
  the
• 25:31
  product
• 25:31
  and
• 25:32
  make
• 25:32
  sure
• 25:32
  you're,
• 25:32
  you're
• 25:33
  getting
• 25:33
  something
• 25:33
  quality.
• 25:34
  Yeah,
• 25:34
  yeah,
• 25:35
  I
• 25:35
  totally
• 25:35
  agree
• 25:36
  with
• 25:36
  Kelly.
• 25:36
  And
• 25:36
  I
• 25:37
  guess
• 25:37
  on
• 25:37
  top
• 25:37
  of
• 25:37
  that,
• 25:37
  bamboo
• 25:38
  is
• 25:38
  kind
• 25:38
  of
• 25:39
  its
• 25:39
  own
• 25:39
  special
• 25:39
  thing
• 25:40
  in
• 25:40
  the
• 25:40
  sense
• 25:40
  that
• 25:41
  it's,
• 25:41
  it's
• 25:41
  been
• 25:41
  a
• 25:42
  big
• 25:42
  victim
• 25:42
  of
• 25:43
  greenwashing.
• 25:44
  There's
• 25:44
  a
• 25:44
  lot
• 25:44
  of,
• 25:45
  a
• 25:45
  lot
• 25:46
  of,
• 25:46
  a
• 25:46
  lot
• 25:47
  of
• 25:47
  manufacturers
• 25:48
  or
• 25:48
  manufacturers
• 25:49
  in
• 25:49
  China
• 25:49
  or
• 25:50
  wherever
• 25:50
  that,
• 25:50
  that'll
• 25:51
  send
• 25:51
  these
• 25:51
  over.
• 25:51
  And
• 25:51
  they're
• 25:52
  advertised
• 25:52
  as
• 25:52
  eco
• 25:53
  friendly
• 25:53
  products
• 25:54
  and
• 25:54
  people
• 25:54
  will
• 25:55
  choose
• 25:55
  them
• 25:55
  over
• 25:55
  traditional
• 25:56
  hardwood
• 25:56
  because
• 25:57
  they,
• 25:57
  they
• 25:57
  think
• 25:57
  that
• 25:58
  cutting
• 25:58
  down
• 25:58
  trees
• 25:59
  is
• 25:59
  bad.
• 26:00
  But
• 26:00
  what
• 26:00
  they
• 26:00
  don't
• 26:01
  realize
• 26:01
  is
• 26:01
  that
• 26:01
  these
• 26:02
  floors,
• 26:02
  these
• 26:02
  bamboo
• 26:03
  floors
• 26:03
  are
• 26:03
  being
• 26:03
  created
• 26:04
  in
• 26:04
  a,
• 26:04
  in
• 26:04
  a
• 26:05
  factory.
• 26:05
  Right.
• 26:05
  They're
• 26:06
  being
• 26:06
  impregnated
• 26:06
  with
• 26:07
  resins
• 26:07
  and
• 26:07
  formaldehydes
• 26:08
  and
• 26:08
  who
• 26:09
  knows
• 26:09
  what
• 26:09
  else.
• 26:10
  And
• 26:10
  then
• 26:10
  they're
• 26:11
  being
• 26:11
  coated
• 26:12
  with
• 26:12
  different
• 26:12
  coatings
• 26:13
  that,
• 26:13
  that
• 26:14
  sometimes
• 26:14
  aren't,
• 26:14
  aren't
• 26:15
  the
• 26:15
  best.
• 26:15
  And
• 26:15
  then
• 26:15
  they're
• 26:15
  being
• 26:16
  sent
• 26:16
  across
• 26:16
  the
• 26:16
  ocean.
• 26:17
  Most
• 26:17
  of
• 26:17
  your
• 26:18
  traditional
• 26:18
  oaks
• 26:19
  that
• 26:19
  we
• 26:19
  see
• 26:19
  over
• 26:19
  here
• 26:20
  are
• 26:20
  usually
• 26:20
  coming
• 26:21
  from
• 26:21
  northern
• 26:22
  United
• 26:22
  States,
• 26:22
  southern
• 26:23
  United
• 26:23
  States,
• 26:23
  whether
• 26:23
  it's
• 26:24
  a
• 26:24
  red
• 26:24
  or
• 26:24
  white
• 26:24
  or
• 26:24
  Canada.
• 26:25
  And
• 26:26
  all
• 26:26
  they're,
• 26:26
  all
• 26:26
  they're
• 26:26
  doing
• 26:27
  is
• 26:27
  they're
• 26:27
  getting
• 26:27
  cut
• 26:28
  down.
• 26:28
  And
• 26:28
  most
• 26:29
  these
• 26:29
  mills
• 26:29
  that,
• 26:30
  these
• 26:30
  mills
• 26:30
  are
• 26:30
  these
• 26:31
  loggers
• 26:31
  in
• 26:32
  or.
• 26:32
  I
• 26:32
  lost
• 26:32
  my
• 26:33
  train
• 26:33
  of
• 26:33
  thought.
• 26:33
  That's
• 26:34
  okay.
• 26:34
  Yeah.
• 26:34
  I
• 26:34
  mean,
• 26:35
  well,
• 26:35
  what,
• 26:36
  what
• 26:36
  you
• 26:36
  have
• 26:36
  is,
• 26:37
  is
• 26:37
  Titus.
• 26:37
  It's
• 26:38
  interesting
• 26:38
  because
• 26:39
  you've
• 26:40
  got
• 26:40
  a
• 26:40
  very
• 26:40
  clear
• 26:40
  path
• 26:41
  to
• 26:41
  market
• 26:41
  with
• 26:41
  that.
• 26:42
  They're
• 26:42
  cutting
• 26:42
  it
• 26:42
  down.
• 26:42
  It's
• 26:43
  going
• 26:43
  to
• 26:43
  the
• 26:43
  logging
• 26:43
  truck,
• 26:43
  it's
• 26:44
  going
• 26:44
  to
• 26:44
  the
• 26:44
  mill.
• 26:44
  Everything
• 26:44
  else
• 26:45
  where
• 26:46
  I've
• 26:46
  seen
• 26:46
  videos
• 26:47
  of
• 26:48
  what
• 26:48
  was
• 26:49
  15
• 26:49
  years
• 26:49
  ago
• 26:50
  with
• 26:50
  some
• 26:50
  of
• 26:50
  the
• 26:50
  bamboo
• 26:50
  products
• 26:51
  where
• 26:51
  they
• 26:51
  were,
• 26:51
  they
• 26:52
  get
• 26:52
  in
• 26:52
  there
• 26:52
  with
• 26:52
  a
• 26:52
  backhoe
• 26:53
  they
• 26:53
  dig
• 26:53
  these
• 26:53
  big
• 26:53
  pits
• 26:54
  and
• 26:54
  fill
• 26:54
  it
• 26:54
  up
• 26:54
  with
• 26:54
  formaldehyde
• 26:55
  and
• 26:55
  they're
• 26:55
  cutting
• 26:56
  the
• 26:56
  bamboo
• 26:56
  down,
• 26:56
  dipping
• 26:57
  that
• 26:57
  in
• 26:57
  before
• 26:57
  it
• 26:58
  goes
• 26:58
  out
• 26:58
  so
• 26:58
  it
• 26:58
  doesn't
• 26:58
  get
• 26:59
  to
• 26:59
  kill
• 26:59
  the
• 26:59
  mold,
• 27:00
  the
• 27:00
  mildew
• 27:00
  and
• 27:00
  all
• 27:01
  that
• 27:01
  stuff
• 27:01
  on
• 27:01
  it.
• 27:01
  And
• 27:02
  then
• 27:02
  it
• 27:02
  goes
• 27:02
  out
• 27:02
  and
• 27:02
  gets
• 27:02
  made
• 27:03
  into
• 27:03
  flooring.
• 27:03
  And
• 27:03
  I'm
• 27:04
  like,
• 27:04
  yeah,
• 27:05
  that's
• 27:05
  a
• 27:05
  whole
• 27:05
  different
• 27:06
  path
• 27:07
  to
• 27:07
  market
• 27:08
  than
• 27:08
  what
• 27:08
  you
• 27:08
  see
• 27:08
  with
• 27:09
  the
• 27:09
  traditional
• 27:09
  hardwood.
• 27:10
  For
• 27:10
  me,
• 27:11
  pretty
• 27:11
  black
• 27:11
  and
• 27:12
  white.
• 27:12
  That's
• 27:12
  not
• 27:12
  green.
• 27:13
  To
• 27:13
  me,
• 27:14
  it's
• 27:14
  way
• 27:14
  greener
• 27:15
  to
• 27:15
  be
• 27:15
  putting
• 27:15
  in
• 27:15
  a
• 27:16
  American
• 27:16
  hardwood
• 27:17
  there
• 27:17
  and
• 27:17
  get
• 27:18
  something
• 27:18
  that's
• 27:18
  fairly
• 27:19
  locally
• 27:19
  sourced.
• 27:20
  Yeah,
• 27:20
  yeah.
• 27:21
  And
• 27:21
  I
• 27:21
  guess
• 27:21
  what
• 27:22
  I
• 27:22
  was
• 27:22
  going
• 27:22
  to
• 27:22
  say
• 27:22
  was
• 27:23
  to
• 27:23
  say
• 27:23
  forestry
• 27:24
  practices
• 27:24
  are
• 27:25
  required
• 27:25
  by
• 27:25
  the
• 27:25
  US
• 27:26
  at
• 27:26
  this
• 27:26
  point.
• 27:26
  If
• 27:27
  you,
• 27:27
  if
• 27:27
  you're
• 27:27
  logging
• 27:27
  trees
• 27:28
  in
• 27:28
  the
• 27:28
  United
• 27:28
  States,
• 27:29
  you
• 27:29
  need
• 27:29
  to
• 27:29
  have,
• 27:30
  you
• 27:30
  have
• 27:30
  to
• 27:30
  meet
• 27:30
  those
• 27:31
  certain
• 27:31
  regulations
• 27:31
  and
• 27:31
  have
• 27:32
  those
• 27:32
  plans
• 27:32
  in
• 27:32
  place.
• 27:33
  And
• 27:33
  there's
• 27:33
  just
• 27:33
  that,
• 27:34
  that
• 27:34
  china
• 27:35
  or
• 27:35
  wherever
• 27:35
  your
• 27:35
  bamboo
• 27:36
  is
• 27:36
  coming
• 27:36
  from,
• 27:37
  they're
• 27:37
  not
• 27:37
  practicing
• 27:38
  those
• 27:38
  sustainability
• 27:39
  practices
• 27:39
  when
• 27:40
  it
• 27:40
  comes
• 27:40
  to
• 27:40
  any
• 27:40
  of
• 27:40
  that.
• 27:41
  And
• 27:41
  obviously
• 27:41
  the,
• 27:41
  the
• 27:42
  journey
• 27:42
  from
• 27:43
  the
• 27:43
  forest
• 27:44
  to
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  mill
• 27:44
  to
• 27:45
  your
• 27:45
  front
• 27:45
  door
• 27:45
  with
• 27:46
  some
• 27:46
  of
• 27:46
  these
• 27:46
  traditional
• 27:47
  North
• 27:47
  American
• 27:47
  hardwoods
• 27:48
  is
• 27:48
  significantly
• 27:49
  better
• 27:49
  in
• 27:49
  a
• 27:49
  lot
• 27:50
  of
• 27:50
  ways.
• 27:50
  Yeah.
• 27:52
  So
• 27:52
  out
• 27:52
  in
• 27:52
  finish
• 27:53
  and
• 27:53
  maybe.
• 27:53
  Kelly,
• 27:54
  this
• 27:54
  is
• 27:54
  a
• 27:54
  great
• 27:54
  question
• 27:55
  for
• 27:55
  you
• 27:55
  on
• 27:55
  this
• 27:55
  one.
• 27:57
  There's
• 27:57
  so
• 27:57
  many
• 27:57
  different
• 27:57
  finishes
• 27:58
  that
• 27:58
  I'm
• 27:58
  seeing
• 27:59
  out
• 27:59
  there
• 27:59
  in
• 27:59
  the
• 27:59
  marketplace.
• 28:00
  And
• 28:00
  first
• 28:00
  off,
• 28:00
  when
• 28:01
  I
• 28:01
  tell
• 28:01
  people,
• 28:01
  hey,
• 28:01
  I'm
• 28:01
  thinking
• 28:02
  about
• 28:02
  doing
• 28:02
  my,
• 28:02
  my
• 28:02
  floors,
• 28:03
  I
• 28:03
  always
• 28:03
  say
• 28:03
  the
• 28:04
  first
• 28:04
  place
• 28:04
  isn't
• 28:04
  to
• 28:05
  go
• 28:05
  to
• 28:05
  the
• 28:05
  home
• 28:05
  center.
• 28:06
  Go
• 28:06
  to
• 28:06
  a
• 28:07
  place
• 28:07
  if
• 28:07
  you're
• 28:07
  going
• 28:07
  to
• 28:07
  DIY
• 28:08
  this,
• 28:08
  understand
• 28:09
  the
• 28:09
  different
• 28:10
  products
• 28:11
  because
• 28:12
  you
• 28:13
  don't
• 28:13
  want
• 28:13
  to
• 28:13
  be
• 28:13
  getting
• 28:13
  the
• 28:13
  home
• 28:13
  center.
• 28:14
  You
• 28:14
  want
• 28:14
  to
• 28:14
  be
• 28:14
  actually
• 28:14
  working
• 28:15
  with
• 28:15
  people
• 28:15
  that
• 28:15
  actually
• 28:15
  know
• 28:16
  hardwood
• 28:16
  floors.
• 28:17
  What
• 28:18
  are
• 28:18
  the
• 28:18
  finishes
• 28:18
  that
• 28:19
  you're
• 28:19
  liking
• 28:19
  out
• 28:20
  there?
• 28:20
  And
• 28:20
  again,
• 28:21
  it's
• 28:21
  depending
• 28:21
  on
• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  look,
• 28:22
  whether
• 28:22
  it's
• 28:22
  a
• 28:23
  matte
• 28:23
  finished,
• 28:23
  oil
• 28:23
  based
• 28:24
  or
• 28:25
  one
• 28:25
  of
• 28:25
  the
• 28:25
  new
• 28:25
  water
• 28:26
  based
• 28:26
  finishes
• 28:26
  or
• 28:27
  urethanes
• 28:27
  out
• 28:27
  there.
• 28:28
  What
• 28:28
  are
• 28:28
  you
• 28:28
  seeing
• 28:29
  in
• 28:29
  the
• 28:29
  marketplace
• 28:29
  today
• 28:29
  that
• 28:30
  you
• 28:30
  like?
• 28:31
  So
• 28:31
  there's
• 28:32
  a
• 28:32
  couple
• 28:32
  different
• 28:32
  factors.
• 28:33
  One
• 28:33
  of
• 28:33
  the
• 28:34
  bigger
• 28:34
  ones
• 28:34
  is
• 28:34
  going
• 28:34
  to
• 28:34
  be
• 28:35
  durability.
• 28:35
  Right.
• 28:36
  So
• 28:36
  how
• 28:37
  long
• 28:37
  is
• 28:37
  it
• 28:37
  going
• 28:37
  to
• 28:37
  last?
• 28:38
  Because
• 28:38
  you
• 28:38
  don't
• 28:38
  want
• 28:38
  to
• 28:38
  be
• 28:38
  refinishing
• 28:39
  your
• 28:39
  floors
• 28:40
  faster
• 28:40
  than
• 28:41
  you
• 28:41
  want
• 28:42
  to.
• 28:42
  Because
• 28:42
  again,
• 28:43
  another
• 28:43
  big
• 28:43
  investment.
• 28:44
  Right.
• 28:45
  So
• 28:45
  durability
• 28:45
  is
• 28:46
  a
• 28:46
  huge
• 28:46
  factor
• 28:46
  and
• 28:47
  every
• 28:47
  single
• 28:47
  type
• 28:47
  of
• 28:47
  finish
• 28:48
  has
• 28:48
  a
• 28:48
  little
• 28:48
  bit
• 28:48
  of
• 28:48
  dirt,
• 28:49
  different
• 28:49
  durability.
• 28:50
  One
• 28:50
  of
• 28:50
  the
• 28:51
  specialties
• 28:51
  that
• 28:51
  that
• 28:52
  Treadline
• 28:52
  uses
• 28:52
  is
• 28:53
  what's
• 28:53
  called
• 28:53
  a
• 28:53
  Swedish
• 28:54
  finish.
• 28:54
  It's
• 28:54
  an
• 28:55
  acid
• 28:55
  cured,
• 28:56
  solvent
• 28:56
  based
• 28:57
  conversion
• 28:57
  varnish.
• 28:58
  Sounds
• 28:58
  really
• 28:59
  scary.
• 29:00
  It's
• 29:00
  not
• 29:00
  it's
• 29:01
  a
• 29:01
  good
• 29:01
  finish,
• 29:01
  it's.
• 29:02
  A
• 29:02
  very
• 29:02
  good
• 29:02
  finish.
• 29:03
  As
• 29:03
  far
• 29:03
  as
• 29:03
  durability
• 29:04
  goes,
• 29:04
  it
• 29:04
  is
• 29:05
  the
• 29:05
  most
• 29:05
  durable
• 29:05
  thing
• 29:06
  that
• 29:06
  can
• 29:06
  be
• 29:06
  applied
• 29:07
  to
• 29:07
  your
• 29:07
  floor
• 29:07
  on
• 29:08
  site
• 29:08
  today.
• 29:09
  Then
• 29:09
  the
• 29:09
  second
• 29:10
  most
• 29:10
  popular
• 29:10
  one
• 29:10
  is
• 29:11
  probably
• 29:11
  a
• 29:11
  water
• 29:11
  based
• 29:11
  finish.
• 29:12
  So
• 29:12
  instead
• 29:12
  of
• 29:13
  that
• 29:13
  acid
• 29:14
  cured,
• 29:14
  solvent
• 29:15
  based.
• 29:15
  Right.
• 29:15
  You've
• 29:16
  got
• 29:16
  a
• 29:16
  water
• 29:16
  based
• 29:17
  type
• 29:17
  finish.
• 29:18
  Right.
• 29:18
  These
• 29:18
  finishes
• 29:19
  are
• 29:19
  typically
• 29:19
  two
• 29:20
  component.
• 29:20
  Right.
• 29:21
  So
• 29:21
  kind
• 29:21
  of
• 29:21
  like
• 29:21
  an
• 29:21
  epoxy
• 29:22
  but
• 29:22
  not
• 29:23
  quite
• 29:23
  so
• 29:23
  brittle.
• 29:24
  But
• 29:24
  the
• 29:24
  durability
• 29:25
  between
• 29:25
  the
• 29:26
  two
• 29:26
  is,
• 29:26
  is
• 29:26
  night
• 29:26
  and
• 29:27
  day.
• 29:27
  So
• 29:27
  like
• 29:27
  a
• 29:28
  water
• 29:28
  based
• 29:28
  finish,
• 29:28
  a
• 29:28
  typical
• 29:29
  refinish
• 29:29
  is
• 29:29
  going
• 29:30
  to
• 29:30
  be
• 29:30
  somewhere
• 29:30
  in
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  five
• 29:31
  to
• 29:31
  seven
• 29:31
  year
• 29:31
  mark.
• 29:32
  A
• 29:32
  Swedish
• 29:33
  finish
• 29:33
  you're
• 29:33
  typically
• 29:33
  going
• 29:34
  to
• 29:34
  get
• 29:34
  somewhere
• 29:34
  between
• 29:34
  10
• 29:35
  and
• 29:35
  20
• 29:35
  years
• 29:35
  depending
• 29:36
  on
• 29:36
  your
• 29:36
  lifestyle.
• 29:37
  That
• 29:37
  may
• 29:38
  not
• 29:38
  be
• 29:38
  a
• 29:38
  factor.
• 29:38
  If
• 29:39
  you're
• 29:39
  a
• 29:39
  little
• 29:39
  grandma
• 29:40
  with
• 29:40
  that,
• 29:40
  never
• 29:40
  has
• 29:41
  anybody
• 29:41
  over
• 29:41
  and
• 29:41
  you
• 29:42
  wear
• 29:42
  socks
• 29:42
  like
• 29:42
  a
• 29:43
  water
• 29:43
  based
• 29:43
  finish
• 29:43
  would
• 29:44
  be
• 29:44
  more
• 29:44
  than
• 29:44
  sufficient
• 29:44
  for
• 29:45
  you.
• 29:45
  But
• 29:46
  you
• 29:46
  know
• 29:46
  somebody
• 29:46
  who's
• 29:47
  got
• 29:47
  five
• 29:47
  dogs
• 29:47
  and
• 29:48
  five
• 29:48
  kids
• 29:48
  and
• 29:48
  wear
• 29:49
  shoes
• 29:49
  all
• 29:49
  the
• 29:49
  time,
• 29:50
  they're
• 29:50
  going
• 29:50
  to
• 29:50
  want
• 29:50
  something
• 29:51
  a
• 29:51
  little
• 29:51
  more
• 29:51
  durable.
• 29:52
  Right.
• 29:52
  They
• 29:53
  also
• 29:53
  have
• 29:53
  very
• 29:53
  different
• 29:53
  looks.
• 29:54
  So
• 29:54
  like
• 29:54
  a
• 29:55
  Swedish
• 29:55
  finish
• 29:55
  typically
• 29:56
  gives
• 29:56
  you
• 29:56
  a
• 29:56
  little
• 29:56
  bit
• 29:57
  more
• 29:57
  richer,
• 29:57
  deeper,
• 29:58
  more.
• 29:59
  I
• 29:59
  don't
• 29:59
  want
• 29:59
  to
• 29:59
  say
• 29:59
  amber
• 30:00
  because
• 30:00
  that's
• 30:00
  a
• 30:00
  bad
• 30:00
  word
• 30:01
  in
• 30:01
  today's
• 30:02
  market,
• 30:03
  but
• 30:03
  a
• 30:03
  little
• 30:03
  bit
• 30:04
  more
• 30:04
  of
• 30:04
  an
• 30:04
  oil
• 30:04
  type
• 30:05
  look
• 30:05
  to
• 30:05
  the
• 30:05
  finish
• 30:06
  where
• 30:06
  a
• 30:06
  water
• 30:06
  based
• 30:06
  finish
• 30:07
  has
• 30:07
  a
• 30:07
  typical
• 30:08
  like
• 30:08
  white
• 30:09
  milky,
• 30:10
  sort
• 30:10
  of
• 30:10
  like
• 30:11
  a
• 30:11
  plasticky
• 30:12
  look
• 30:12
  to
• 30:12
  it
• 30:12
  which
• 30:13
  may
• 30:13
  also
• 30:13
  be
• 30:13
  very
• 30:14
  popular.
• 30:14
  Right.
• 30:15
  So
• 30:15
  a
• 30:15
  lot
• 30:15
  of
• 30:15
  the
• 30:15
  like
• 30:16
  Scandinavian
• 30:16
  looks
• 30:17
  and
• 30:17
  kind
• 30:17
  of
• 30:18
  the,
• 30:18
  the
• 30:18
  more
• 30:18
  modern
• 30:19
  lighter
• 30:19
  looks
• 30:20
  that
• 30:20
  that
• 30:20
  water
• 30:21
  base
• 30:21
  might
• 30:21
  be
• 30:21
  a
• 30:21
  good
• 30:21
  finish
• 30:22
  for
• 30:22
  color.
• 30:23
  Color
• 30:23
  versus
• 30:23
  durability.
• 30:24
  Those
• 30:24
  which
• 30:24
  one's
• 30:25
  more
• 30:25
  important
• 30:25
  to
• 30:25
  you.
• 30:26
  And
• 30:26
  then
• 30:27
  there's
• 30:27
  also
• 30:27
  other
• 30:27
  finishes
• 30:28
  out
• 30:28
  there.
• 30:28
  One
• 30:28
  that
• 30:28
  I
• 30:29
  really
• 30:29
  like
• 30:29
  is
• 30:29
  it's
• 30:29
  called
• 30:30
  a
• 30:30
  penetrating
• 30:30
  oil,
• 30:31
  it's
• 30:31
  not
• 30:31
  a
• 30:32
  film
• 30:32
  based
• 30:32
  finish.
• 30:33
  So
• 30:33
  a
• 30:33
  film
• 30:33
  based
• 30:33
  finish,
• 30:34
  like
• 30:34
  the
• 30:34
  Swedish
• 30:35
  and
• 30:35
  water
• 30:35
  based
• 30:35
  that
• 30:35
  we're
• 30:35
  talking
• 30:36
  about
• 30:36
  is
• 30:36
  a
• 30:36
  film
• 30:37
  that
• 30:37
  sits
• 30:37
  on
• 30:37
  top
• 30:37
  of
• 30:37
  your
• 30:38
  floor
• 30:38
  and
• 30:38
  you
• 30:38
  wear
• 30:38
  down
• 30:39
  on
• 30:39
  it
• 30:39
  over
• 30:39
  time.
• 30:39
  And
• 30:40
  then
• 30:40
  when
• 30:40
  that's
• 30:40
  worn
• 30:40
  off
• 30:41
  you
• 30:41
  put
• 30:41
  more,
• 30:41
  more
• 30:41
  film
• 30:42
  on
• 30:42
  it.
• 30:42
  A
• 30:43
  penetrating
• 30:43
  oil
• 30:43
  is
• 30:44
  an
• 30:44
  oil
• 30:44
  that
• 30:44
  actually
• 30:45
  seeps
• 30:45
  into
• 30:45
  the
• 30:45
  pores
• 30:46
  of
• 30:46
  the
• 30:46
  wood,
• 30:47
  freezes
• 30:47
  inside
• 30:48
  those
• 30:48
  pores
• 30:49
  and
• 30:49
  then
• 30:49
  hardens.
• 30:50
  And
• 30:50
  that's
• 30:50
  where
• 30:50
  your
• 30:50
  durability
• 30:51
  comes
• 30:51
  from.
• 30:52
  It
• 30:52
  actually
• 30:53
  raises
• 30:53
  the
• 30:53
  hardness
• 30:54
  level
• 30:54
  of
• 30:54
  the
• 30:54
  species
• 30:55
  of
• 30:55
  wood
• 30:55
  that
• 30:55
  you're
• 30:55
  putting
• 30:56
  it
• 30:56
  on.
• 30:56
  And
• 30:57
  those
• 30:57
  floors
• 30:58
  when
• 30:58
  you're
• 30:58
  wearing
• 30:59
  on
• 30:59
  them,
• 30:59
  you
• 31:00
  can't
• 31:00
  see
• 31:00
  the
• 31:01
  scratches
• 31:01
  in
• 31:01
  the
• 31:02
  same
• 31:02
  way
• 31:02
  because
• 31:02
  you're,
• 31:02
  there's
• 31:03
  no
• 31:03
  film
• 31:03
  that
• 31:03
  you're
• 31:03
  scratching
• 31:04
  on.
• 31:05
  So
• 31:06
  if
• 31:06
  you're
• 31:06
  kind
• 31:06
  of
• 31:07
  looking
• 31:07
  for
• 31:07
  something
• 31:07
  that's
• 31:07
  a
• 31:08
  more
• 31:08
  natural,
• 31:09
  like
• 31:09
  no
• 31:09
  sheen,
• 31:10
  like
• 31:10
  a
• 31:10
  very
• 31:11
  traditional
• 31:11
  European
• 31:12
  sort
• 31:12
  of
• 31:13
  look.
• 31:13
  A
• 31:13
  penetrating
• 31:14
  oil
• 31:14
  might
• 31:14
  be
• 31:15
  a
• 31:15
  great
• 31:15
  option
• 31:15
  for
• 31:16
  you.
• 31:16
  So
• 31:17
  there's
• 31:17
  a
• 31:17
  lot
• 31:17
  of
• 31:17
  different
• 31:18
  options
• 31:18
  out
• 31:18
  there.
• 31:18
  Those
• 31:19
  are
• 31:19
  just
• 31:19
  three
• 31:19
  of
• 31:20
  my
• 31:20
  favorite
• 31:21
  ones
• 31:21
  and
• 31:21
  the
• 31:22
  most
• 31:22
  popular
• 31:22
  ones
• 31:22
  that
• 31:23
  we
• 31:23
  see,
• 31:23
  especially
• 31:23
  here
• 31:24
  in
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  Northwest.
• 31:25
  But
• 31:25
  every
• 31:25
  single
• 31:26
  one
• 31:26
  has
• 31:27
  its
• 31:27
  own
• 31:27
  pros
• 31:28
  and
• 31:28
  cons.
• 31:29
  And
• 31:29
  I
• 31:29
  would
• 31:29
  certainly
• 31:30
  talk
• 31:30
  to
• 31:30
  a
• 31:30
  professional
• 31:31
  about
• 31:31
  what
• 31:31
  would
• 31:32
  be
• 31:32
  right
• 31:32
  for
• 31:33
  your
• 31:33
  home
• 31:33
  because.
• 31:34
  And
• 31:34
  your
• 31:34
  lifestyle
• 31:35
  because
• 31:35
  everybody's
• 31:36
  got
• 31:36
  a
• 31:36
  little
• 31:36
  bit
• 31:37
  different
• 31:37
  factor
• 31:38
  that
• 31:38
  needs
• 31:38
  to
• 31:39
  be
• 31:39
  considered.
• 31:41
  Yeah,
• 31:41
  that
• 31:41
  makes
• 31:41
  sense.
• 31:42
  And
• 31:42
  I'm
• 31:42
  sure,
• 31:42
  Titus,
• 31:43
  when
• 31:43
  you're
• 31:43
  out
• 31:43
  at
• 31:44
  the
• 31:44
  job
• 31:44
  site
• 31:44
  talking
• 31:45
  to
• 31:45
  people
• 31:45
  out
• 31:45
  there,
• 31:45
  it's.
• 31:46
  There's
• 31:47
  22
• 31:47
  variables,
• 31:48
  right,
• 31:48
  that
• 31:48
  go
• 31:49
  into
• 31:49
  that
• 31:49
  decision
• 31:49
  making
• 31:50
  process
• 31:50
  of
• 31:50
  what's
• 31:51
  going
• 31:51
  to
• 31:51
  be
• 31:51
  the
• 31:51
  right
• 31:51
  floor
• 31:52
  for
• 31:52
  you.
• 31:53
  Oh,
• 31:53
  yeah,
• 31:53
  yeah.
• 31:54
  And
• 31:54
  it,
• 31:54
  and
• 31:55
  it's
• 31:55
  a
• 31:55
  lot
• 31:55
  like
• 31:55
  what
• 31:56
  Kelly
• 31:56
  said.
• 31:56
  If
• 31:56
  you,
• 31:57
  if
• 31:57
  you
• 31:57
  have
• 31:57
  dogs
• 31:58
  and
• 31:58
  kids
• 31:58
  and
• 31:58
  things
• 31:58
  like
• 31:59
  that,
• 31:59
  then
• 31:59
  and
• 31:59
  you
• 32:00
  live
• 32:00
  up
• 32:01
  more
• 32:01
  of
• 32:01
  the
• 32:01
  traditional
• 32:02
  American
• 32:02
  lifestyle.
• 32:03
  Everybody's
• 32:03
  in
• 32:04
  and
• 32:04
  out,
• 32:04
  everybody's
• 32:04
  always
• 32:05
  doing
• 32:05
  things
• 32:05
  right,
• 32:06
  things
• 32:06
  like
• 32:06
  that.
• 32:06
  And
• 32:06
  you're
• 32:07
  looking
• 32:07
  to
• 32:07
  basically
• 32:07
  have
• 32:08
  your
• 32:08
  floors
• 32:08
  done
• 32:08
  done
• 32:09
  and
• 32:09
  be
• 32:09
  done
• 32:10
  and
• 32:10
  very
• 32:10
  minimal
• 32:11
  maintenance.
• 32:11
  Typically
• 32:12
  I
• 32:12
  push
• 32:12
  people
• 32:12
  in
• 32:12
  the
• 32:13
  direction
• 32:13
  of
• 32:13
  a
• 32:13
  Swedish
• 32:14
  finish,
• 32:14
  right.
• 32:14
  With
• 32:15
  the
• 32:15
  understanding
• 32:15
  that
• 32:15
  durability
• 32:16
  is
• 32:16
  the
• 32:16
  priority
• 32:17
  and
• 32:17
  maybe
• 32:17
  looks
• 32:18
  are
• 32:18
  second.
• 32:19
  When
• 32:19
  people
• 32:19
  are
• 32:19
  really
• 32:20
  trying
• 32:20
  to
• 32:20
  achieve
• 32:21
  that,
• 32:21
  that
• 32:21
  kind
• 32:21
  of
• 32:21
  European
• 32:22
  white
• 32:22
  oak
• 32:22
  look,
• 32:23
  which
• 32:23
  is
• 32:23
  really,
• 32:23
  really
• 32:23
  in
• 32:24
  right
• 32:24
  now,
• 32:24
  kind
• 32:25
  of
• 32:25
  that
• 32:25
  matte
• 32:25
  European
• 32:25
  white
• 32:26
  oak
• 32:26
  look,
• 32:27
  water
• 32:27
  based
• 32:27
  is
• 32:28
  usually
• 32:28
  the
• 32:28
  direction
• 32:29
  I
• 32:29
  push
• 32:29
  them
• 32:29
  if
• 32:29
  they're
• 32:30
  willing
• 32:30
  to
• 32:30
  give
• 32:30
  up
• 32:30
  that
• 32:30
  durability.
• 32:31
  And
• 32:31
  then
• 32:31
  these
• 32:32
  penetrating
• 32:32
  oils
• 32:33
  that
• 32:33
  Kelly
• 32:33
  mentioned,
• 32:34
  they're
• 32:34
  a
• 32:34
  little
• 32:34
  more
• 32:34
  DIY
• 32:35
  friendly
• 32:36
  in
• 32:36
  the
• 32:36
  sense
• 32:36
  that
• 32:36
  they're
• 32:36
  a
• 32:36
  little
• 32:36
  bit
• 32:37
  more
• 32:37
  forgiving
• 32:37
  because
• 32:38
  you
• 32:38
  don't
• 32:38
  actually
• 32:38
  have
• 32:39
  a
• 32:39
  sheet
• 32:39
  of
• 32:40
  plastic
• 32:40
  floor
• 32:41
  that
• 32:41
  shows
• 32:41
  every
• 32:41
  little
• 32:41
  detail
• 32:42
  when
• 32:43
  it
• 32:43
  comes
• 32:43
  to
• 32:43
  touch
• 32:43
  ups,
• 32:44
  things
• 32:44
  like
• 32:44
  that.
• 32:44
  A
• 32:44
  lot
• 32:44
  of
• 32:45
  these
• 32:45
  products
• 32:45
  are
• 32:45
  marketed
• 32:46
  as
• 32:46
  touch
• 32:47
  up
• 32:47
  Able.
• 32:47
  If
• 32:47
  you
• 32:48
  scratch
• 32:48
  your
• 32:48
  floor
• 32:49
  or
• 32:49
  replace
• 32:49
  a
• 32:50
  section
• 32:50
  or
• 32:50
  something
• 32:50
  like
• 32:50
  that,
• 32:51
  typically
• 32:51
  they're
• 32:51
  much
• 32:52
  easier
• 32:52
  to
• 32:52
  blend.
• 32:53
  That
• 32:53
  being
• 32:53
  said,
• 32:53
  they
• 32:54
  probably
• 32:54
  come
• 32:54
  with
• 32:54
  the
• 32:54
  most
• 32:55
  maintenance,
• 32:55
  for
• 32:56
  lack
• 32:56
  of
• 32:56
  a
• 32:56
  better
• 32:56
  term.
• 32:56
  It's
• 32:57
  like
• 32:57
  living
• 32:58
  on
• 32:58
  a
• 32:58
  cutting
• 32:58
  board.
• 32:59
  You
• 32:59
  need
• 32:59
  to
• 32:59
  make
• 32:59
  sure
• 32:59
  that
• 32:59
  you
• 33:00
  oil
• 33:00
  it
• 33:00
  regularly,
• 33:01
  clean
• 33:01
  it
• 33:02
  regularly,
• 33:02
  shoes
• 33:03
  off,
• 33:04
  things
• 33:04
  like
• 33:05
  that.
• 33:05
  But
• 33:05
  that
• 33:05
  being
• 33:05
  said,
• 33:06
  it's
• 33:06
  much
• 33:06
  more
• 33:06
  forgiving
• 33:07
  and
• 33:07
  sometimes
• 33:08
  a
• 33:08
  little
• 33:08
  bit
• 33:08
  more
• 33:08
  long
• 33:09
  term
• 33:09
  and
• 33:09
  a
• 33:10
  little
• 33:10
  more
• 33:10
  diy.
• 33:11
  That
• 33:11
  makes
• 33:11
  sense.
• 33:11
  I've
• 33:12
  been
• 33:12
  out
• 33:12
  looking
• 33:12
  at
• 33:12
  homes
• 33:13
  with
• 33:13
  my
• 33:13
  girlfriend
• 33:13
  and
• 33:14
  we've
• 33:14
  been
• 33:14
  out
• 33:14
  trying
• 33:14
  to
• 33:14
  figure
• 33:14
  out,
• 33:15
  okay,
• 33:15
  what's
• 33:15
  our
• 33:15
  next
• 33:15
  place?
• 33:16
  Because
• 33:16
  I
• 33:16
  like
• 33:16
  doing
• 33:17
  my
• 33:17
  projects
• 33:18
  I
• 33:18
  am
• 33:19
  still
• 33:19
  shocked
• 33:20
  out
• 33:20
  there
• 33:21
  with
• 33:21
  LVP
• 33:22
  flooring.
• 33:23
  And
• 33:23
  I'm
• 33:23
  going
• 33:23
  to
• 33:23
  get
• 33:23
  on
• 33:23
  my
• 33:23
  Little
• 33:24
  Soapbox
• 33:24
  for
• 33:24
  30
• 33:25
  seconds
• 33:25
  here.
• 33:26
  How
• 33:26
  many
• 33:27
  people
• 33:27
  that
• 33:27
  are
• 33:28
  building
• 33:28
  in
• 33:28
  our
• 33:28
  area
• 33:29
  in
• 33:29
  the
• 33:29
  Pacific
• 33:29
  Northwest,
• 33:30
  one
• 33:31
  and
• 33:31
  a
• 33:31
  half
• 33:31
  million
• 33:31
  dollar
• 33:32
  homes
• 33:32
  and
• 33:33
  all
• 33:33
  I
• 33:33
  see
• 33:33
  is
• 33:34
  plastic
• 33:34
  floors
• 33:35
  everywhere.
• 33:36
  And
• 33:36
  it's
• 33:37
  driving
• 33:37
  me
• 33:37
  nuts.
• 33:38
  Yeah,
• 33:38
  it
• 33:39
  drives
• 33:39
  me
• 33:39
  nuts
• 33:40
  every
• 33:40
  day.
• 33:40
  Every
• 33:40
  day
• 33:41
  I
• 33:41
  see
• 33:41
  them
• 33:42
  and
• 33:43
  it's,
• 33:43
  it's
• 33:43
  a
• 33:43
  ton
• 33:43
  of
• 33:44
  different
• 33:44
  factors.
• 33:44
  And
• 33:44
  I
• 33:45
  think
• 33:45
  the
• 33:45
  biggest
• 33:45
  thing
• 33:45
  that
• 33:46
  bothers
• 33:46
  me
• 33:46
  about
• 33:46
  LVP
• 33:47
  floors
• 33:48
  is
• 33:48
  they're
• 33:48
  not
• 33:48
  forever
• 33:49
  in
• 33:49
  the
• 33:50
  sense
• 33:50
  that
• 33:50
  they
• 33:50
  print
• 33:51
  them
• 33:51
  out
• 33:51
  of
• 33:51
  their
• 33:51
  magic
• 33:52
  play
• 33:52
  DOH
• 33:52
  machine
• 33:53
  that
• 33:53
  makes
• 33:53
  these
• 33:53
  boards,
• 33:54
  right.
• 33:54
  People
• 33:55
  put
• 33:55
  them
• 33:55
  down
• 33:55
  on
• 33:55
  their
• 33:55
  floor
• 33:56
  and
• 33:56
  they're
• 33:56
  considered
• 33:57
  definitely
• 33:57
  an
• 33:57
  economical
• 33:58
  solution
• 33:58
  that
• 33:59
  give
• 33:59
  you
• 33:59
  that
• 33:59
  kind
• 33:59
  of
• 34:00
  hardwood
• 34:00
  like
• 34:00
  look.
• 34:01
  But
• 34:01
  once
• 34:01
  you're
• 34:02
  done
• 34:02
  with
• 34:02
  them,
• 34:02
  they
• 34:02
  have
• 34:02
  an
• 34:03
  average
• 34:03
  lifespan
• 34:03
  very
• 34:04
  similar
• 34:04
  to
• 34:04
  even
• 34:05
  these
• 34:05
  finish
• 34:05
  on
• 34:06
  site
• 34:06
  floors,
• 34:06
  about
• 34:06
  10
• 34:07
  years
• 34:07
  or
• 34:07
  so.
• 34:08
  And
• 34:08
  then
• 34:08
  once
• 34:08
  you're
• 34:09
  done
• 34:09
  with
• 34:09
  them,
• 34:09
  once
• 34:09
  you've
• 34:09
  worn
• 34:10
  through
• 34:10
  them,
• 34:10
  there's,
• 34:10
  there's
• 34:11
  no
• 34:11
  recoding
• 34:11
  process.
• 34:12
  There's
• 34:12
  nothing
• 34:12
  like
• 34:12
  that.
• 34:13
  You
• 34:13
  can't
• 34:13
  sand
• 34:13
  it
• 34:13
  back
• 34:14
  down
• 34:14
  and
• 34:14
  go
• 34:14
  again.
• 34:15
  They're,
• 34:15
  they
• 34:15
  go
• 34:16
  in
• 34:16
  the
• 34:16
  dumpster.
• 34:17
  That's
• 34:17
  terrible.
• 34:18
  The
• 34:18
  average
• 34:18
  lifespan
• 34:19
  of
• 34:19
  a
• 34:19
  wood
• 34:19
  floor,
• 34:20
  for
• 34:20
  example,
• 34:20
  your
• 34:21
  traditional
• 34:21
  two
• 34:22
  and
• 34:22
  a
• 34:22
  quarter
• 34:22
  wide
• 34:22
  white
• 34:23
  oak
• 34:23
  or
• 34:23
  red
• 34:23
  oak,
• 34:24
  which
• 34:24
  a
• 34:24
  lot
• 34:24
  of
• 34:24
  people
• 34:25
  in
• 34:25
  the
• 34:25
  Northwest
• 34:25
  have
• 34:26
  in
• 34:26
  their
• 34:26
  homes,
• 34:27
  you
• 34:27
  can
• 34:27
  get
• 34:27
  on
• 34:27
  average
• 34:28
  6
• 34:28
  to
• 34:29
  7
• 34:29
  sands
• 34:29
  out
• 34:30
  of
• 34:30
  them.
• 34:30
  Usually
• 34:30
  these
• 34:31
  floors
• 34:31
  outlive
• 34:32
  the
• 34:32
  people
• 34:33
  who
• 34:33
  own
• 34:33
  these
• 34:34
  houses
• 34:35
  probably
• 34:35
  in
• 34:35
  the
• 34:35
  next
• 34:36
  30
• 34:36
  to
• 34:36
  40
• 34:36
  years.
• 34:37
  For
• 34:37
  some
• 34:37
  of
• 34:37
  these
• 34:37
  older
• 34:37
  homes
• 34:38
  that
• 34:38
  they're
• 34:38
  old
• 34:38
  and
• 34:39
  dilapidated
• 34:39
  and
• 34:40
  throw
• 34:40
  throwaway
• 34:41
  houses
• 34:41
  at
• 34:41
  this
• 34:42
  point,
• 34:42
  what
• 34:42
  they're
• 34:42
  going
• 34:43
  to
• 34:43
  start
• 34:43
  doing
• 34:43
  is
• 34:43
  they're
• 34:43
  going
• 34:43
  to
• 34:44
  start
• 34:44
  tearing
• 34:44
  down
• 34:44
  these
• 34:44
  houses
• 34:45
  and
• 34:45
  pulling
• 34:46
  these
• 34:46
  floors
• 34:46
  out
• 34:46
  and
• 34:46
  selling
• 34:47
  them
• 34:47
  as
• 34:47
  reclaimed.
• 34:47
  And
• 34:48
  they'll
• 34:48
  probably
• 34:48
  still
• 34:48
  have
• 34:49
  another
• 34:49
  50
• 34:49
  years
• 34:50
  left
• 34:50
  in
• 34:50
  them.
• 34:50
  It's
• 34:51
  just
• 34:51
  another,
• 34:51
  it's
• 34:52
  just
• 34:52
  another
• 34:52
  level.
• 34:53
  Great
• 34:53
  point.
• 34:54
  It's
• 34:54
  just
• 34:54
  driving
• 34:54
  me
• 34:55
  crazy
• 34:55
  because
• 34:55
  I
• 34:55
  see,
• 34:55
  I
• 34:56
  walk
• 34:56
  through
• 34:56
  some
• 34:56
  of
• 34:56
  these
• 34:56
  homes,
• 34:57
  they've
• 34:57
  been
• 34:57
  either
• 34:58
  flipped
• 34:58
  or
• 34:58
  they're
• 34:59
  a
• 34:59
  brand
• 34:59
  new
• 35:00
  build.
• 35:00
  And
• 35:00
  I'm
• 35:01
  like,
• 35:01
  okay,
• 35:02
  is
• 35:02
  this
• 35:02
  flooring
• 35:03
  going
• 35:03
  to
• 35:03
  separate
• 35:03
  in
• 35:04
  eight
• 35:04
  months?
• 35:04
  Are
• 35:04
  you
• 35:04
  going
• 35:05
  to
• 35:05
  start
• 35:05
  seeing
• 35:05
  those
• 35:05
  things
• 35:06
  come
• 35:06
  apart?
• 35:06
  Or
• 35:07
  it's.
• 35:07
  And
• 35:08
  I
• 35:08
  see
• 35:08
  the
• 35:08
  same
• 35:08
  problem
• 35:09
  with
• 35:09
  that,
• 35:09
  with
• 35:10
  where
• 35:10
  people
• 35:10
  put
• 35:10
  them
• 35:10
  in
• 35:11
  older
• 35:11
  homes
• 35:11
  where
• 35:11
  there's
• 35:11
  maybe
• 35:12
  a
• 35:12
  little
• 35:12
  more
• 35:12
  bounce
• 35:12
  on
• 35:12
  the
• 35:13
  second
• 35:13
  floor.
• 35:14
  And
• 35:14
  all
• 35:14
  of
• 35:14
  a
• 35:14
  sudden
• 35:14
  those
• 35:15
  things
• 35:15
  just
• 35:15
  start
• 35:15
  coming
• 35:15
  across.
• 35:16
  We
• 35:16
  get
• 35:16
  so
• 35:17
  many
• 35:17
  messages
• 35:18
  in
• 35:18
  here
• 35:18
  of
• 35:19
  how
• 35:19
  do
• 35:19
  I
• 35:19
  fix
• 35:19
  my
• 35:19
  flooring?
• 35:20
  It's
• 35:20
  coming
• 35:20
  apart
• 35:20
  on
• 35:20
  the
• 35:21
  second
• 35:21
  floor.
• 35:21
  And
• 35:21
  you
• 35:21
  start
• 35:22
  asking
• 35:22
  questions.
• 35:23
  I
• 35:23
  was
• 35:23
  built
• 35:24
  in
• 35:24
  the
• 35:24
  20s
• 35:24
  and
• 35:25
  maybe
• 35:25
  that
• 35:26
  was
• 35:26
  storage.
• 35:26
  So
• 35:27
  it's
• 35:27
  like
• 35:27
  two
• 35:27
  by
• 35:27
  sixes
• 35:28
  up
• 35:28
  there.
• 35:28
  It
• 35:29
  seems
• 35:29
  to
• 35:29
  me
• 35:29
  the
• 35:29
  more
• 35:30
  the
• 35:30
  floor
• 35:30
  moves,
• 35:30
  the
• 35:31
  more
• 35:31
  those
• 35:31
  things
• 35:31
  tend
• 35:31
  to
• 35:31
  come
• 35:32
  apart.
• 35:32
  And
• 35:32
  then
• 35:33
  I
• 35:34
  always
• 35:34
  tell
• 35:34
  people,
• 35:34
  if
• 35:34
  you're
• 35:35
  gonna
• 35:35
  have
• 35:35
  to
• 35:35
  tear
• 35:35
  the
• 35:35
  whole
• 35:35
  thing
• 35:36
  out,
• 35:36
  just
• 35:36
  go
• 35:36
  put
• 35:36
  the
• 35:36
  right
• 35:37
  thing
• 35:37
  in.
• 35:37
  Don't
• 35:37
  go
• 35:37
  through
• 35:38
  the
• 35:38
  labor
• 35:38
  to
• 35:38
  do
• 35:38
  it
• 35:38
  twice,
• 35:38
  because
• 35:39
  if
• 35:39
  it
• 35:39
  came
• 35:39
  across
• 35:40
  once,
• 35:40
  it's
• 35:40
  probably
• 35:41
  gonna
• 35:41
  do
• 35:41
  it
• 35:41
  again.
• 35:42
  Yeah,
• 35:42
  it's
• 35:42
  definitely.
• 35:43
  It
• 35:43
  definitely
• 35:44
  goes
• 35:44
  kind
• 35:44
  of
• 35:44
  into
• 35:44
  that
• 35:45
  conversation
• 35:45
  about
• 35:46
  value
• 35:47
  and
• 35:47
  that
• 35:48
  the
• 35:48
  term
• 35:48
  I
• 35:48
  always
• 35:48
  like
• 35:48
  is
• 35:49
  the
• 35:49
  buy
• 35:49
  once,
• 35:49
  cry
• 35:50
  once.
• 35:50
  In
• 35:50
  the
• 35:50
  sense
• 35:51
  that
• 35:51
  if
• 35:51
  you're
• 35:51
  looking
• 35:51
  to.
• 35:51
  To
• 35:52
  do
• 35:52
  something
• 35:53
  and
• 35:53
  be
• 35:53
  done
• 35:54
  and
• 35:54
  there's
• 35:55
  a
• 35:55
  lot
• 35:55
  of
• 35:55
  hard
• 35:55
  work
• 35:55
  involved,
• 35:56
  but
• 35:56
  once
• 35:56
  it's
• 35:56
  done,
• 35:57
  it's
• 35:57
  done
• 35:58
  and
• 35:58
  you
• 35:58
  never
• 35:58
  gotta
• 35:58
  think
• 35:59
  about
• 35:59
  it
• 35:59
  again.
• 35:59
  So,
• 36:00
  Kelly,
• 36:00
  when
• 36:00
  you
• 36:00
  see
• 36:00
  warning
• 36:01
  claims
• 36:01
  out
• 36:01
  there
• 36:02
  with
• 36:02
  a
• 36:02
  lot
• 36:02
  of
• 36:02
  the
• 36:02
  hardwood
• 36:02
  companies,
• 36:03
  is
• 36:03
  a
• 36:03
  lot
• 36:04
  of
• 36:04
  the
• 36:04
  problems
• 36:04
  installation
• 36:05
  or
• 36:06
  it's.
• 36:06
  They
• 36:06
  didn't.
• 36:07
  They
• 36:07
  put
• 36:08
  it
• 36:08
  down
• 36:08
  in
• 36:08
  the
• 36:08
  basement
• 36:09
  over
• 36:09
  concrete
• 36:10
  and
• 36:10
  things
• 36:10
  are
• 36:10
  cupping
• 36:11
  and
• 36:11
  they
• 36:11
  don't
• 36:11
  know
• 36:11
  why.
• 36:12
  Is
• 36:12
  it
• 36:12
  those
• 36:12
  kind
• 36:13
  of
• 36:13
  things
• 36:13
  or
• 36:13
  what
• 36:13
  do
• 36:13
  you
• 36:14
  see
• 36:14
  a
• 36:14
  lot
• 36:14
  these
• 36:14
  days?
• 36:15
  Generally
• 36:15
  speaking?
• 36:16
  Yeah,
• 36:16
  it's
• 36:17
  a
• 36:17
  lot
• 36:17
  of.
• 36:17
  It's
• 36:18
  more
• 36:18
  prep
• 36:18
  than
• 36:19
  anything,
• 36:19
  to
• 36:19
  be
• 36:19
  honest
• 36:20
  with
• 36:20
  you.
• 36:21
  So
• 36:21
  a
• 36:21
  lot
• 36:21
  of
• 36:21
  people,
• 36:22
  they're
• 36:22
  like,
• 36:22
  oh,
• 36:22
  yeah,
• 36:23
  I
• 36:23
  can
• 36:23
  buy
• 36:23
  this
• 36:23
  product.
• 36:24
  I
• 36:24
  can
• 36:24
  put
• 36:24
  it
• 36:24
  in
• 36:25
  super
• 36:25
  easy.
• 36:25
  It's
• 36:26
  do
• 36:26
  it
• 36:26
  yourself.
• 36:27
  Or
• 36:27
  if
• 36:27
  you
• 36:27
  have
• 36:27
  a
• 36:28
  professional
• 36:28
  come
• 36:28
  in
• 36:28
  and
• 36:29
  do
• 36:29
  it,
• 36:29
  no
• 36:29
  problem.
• 36:30
  But
• 36:30
  where
• 36:31
  I
• 36:31
  see
• 36:31
  the
• 36:31
  biggest
• 36:32
  downfall
• 36:32
  is
• 36:33
  they
• 36:33
  haven't
• 36:33
  prepped
• 36:34
  anything
• 36:34
  properly.
• 36:35
  So
• 36:36
  every
• 36:36
  single
• 36:37
  one
• 36:37
  of
• 36:37
  these
• 36:37
  floors
• 36:38
  requires
• 36:38
  some
• 36:38
  sort
• 36:39
  of
• 36:39
  moisture.
• 36:40
  Retarder.
• 36:40
  Moisture
• 36:41
  vapor,
• 36:42
  depending
• 36:42
  on
• 36:43
  barrier.
• 36:43
  Sorry,
• 36:44
  moisture
• 36:44
  barrier
• 36:45
  depending
• 36:45
  on
• 36:45
  where
• 36:46
  you're
• 36:46
  installing
• 36:46
  it.
• 36:47
  So
• 36:47
  whether
• 36:47
  it's
• 36:47
  in
• 36:47
  a
• 36:48
  basement
• 36:48
  over
• 36:48
  concrete
• 36:49
  or
• 36:49
  if
• 36:49
  you're
• 36:49
  on
• 36:50
  a
• 36:50
  second
• 36:50
  level
• 36:50
  on
• 36:51
  sort
• 36:51
  of
• 36:51
  some
• 36:51
  sort
• 36:51
  of
• 36:51
  wood
• 36:52
  substrate,
• 36:53
  they
• 36:53
  still
• 36:53
  all
• 36:53
  require
• 36:54
  some
• 36:54
  sort
• 36:55
  of
• 36:55
  vapor
• 36:55
  or
• 36:56
  retarder
• 36:56
  or
• 36:56
  barrier.
• 36:57
  A
• 36:57
  lot
• 36:57
  of
• 36:58
  times
• 36:58
  people
• 36:58
  don't
• 36:58
  even
• 36:59
  know
• 36:59
  that's
• 36:59
  a
• 36:59
  requirement
• 37:00
  and
• 37:00
  skip
• 37:01
  it
• 37:01
  altogether.
• 37:01
  Right.
• 37:02
  The
• 37:02
  other
• 37:03
  part
• 37:03
  is
• 37:03
  like,
• 37:03
  I
• 37:04
  guess
• 37:04
  you
• 37:04
  could
• 37:04
  say
• 37:04
  flatness
• 37:05
  of
• 37:05
  the
• 37:05
  floor,
• 37:06
  the
• 37:06
  substrate.
• 37:07
  This
• 37:07
  happens
• 37:07
  a
• 37:08
  lot
• 37:08
  in
• 37:08
  basements,
• 37:09
  like
• 37:09
  you
• 37:09
  mentioned,
• 37:09
  over
• 37:10
  concrete.
• 37:11
  Typical
• 37:11
  basement
• 37:12
  concrete
• 37:13
  floors
• 37:13
  are
• 37:13
  not
• 37:13
  flat.
• 37:14
  And
• 37:14
  if
• 37:15
  you
• 37:15
  put
• 37:15
  down
• 37:15
  some
• 37:16
  sort
• 37:16
  of
• 37:16
  floating
• 37:16
  product.
• 37:17
  Click
• 37:17
  product,
• 37:17
  like
• 37:17
  beer,
• 37:18
  like
• 37:18
  you
• 37:19
  had
• 37:19
  mentioned,
• 37:19
  like
• 37:19
  the
• 37:19
  lvp,
• 37:20
  those
• 37:20
  require
• 37:21
  pretty
• 37:21
  significant
• 37:22
  flat
• 37:22
  floor.
• 37:23
  Otherwise
• 37:23
  you'll
• 37:23
  have
• 37:23
  that
• 37:24
  bouncy
• 37:24
  and
• 37:24
  those
• 37:25
  tongues
• 37:25
  and
• 37:25
  grooves
• 37:25
  can
• 37:26
  move
• 37:26
  and
• 37:27
  crack
• 37:27
  and
• 37:28
  get
• 37:28
  destroyed.
• 37:29
  So
• 37:29
  those
• 37:29
  are
• 37:29
  all
• 37:30
  factors
• 37:30
  that
• 37:30
  people
• 37:31
  don't
• 37:31
  even
• 37:31
  think
• 37:31
  about.
• 37:32
  A
• 37:32
  lot
• 37:32
  of
• 37:32
  times
• 37:32
  people
• 37:33
  don't
• 37:33
  read
• 37:33
  the
• 37:33
  instructions
• 37:34
  on
• 37:34
  how
• 37:34
  to
• 37:34
  install
• 37:34
  Them
• 37:35
  and
• 37:36
  Right.
• 37:36
  Get
• 37:36
  themselves
• 37:37
  into
• 37:37
  trouble.
• 37:38
  And,
• 37:38
  and,
• 37:38
  and
• 37:38
  once
• 37:39
  these
• 37:39
  floors,
• 37:39
  a
• 37:40
  lot
• 37:40
  of
• 37:40
  times,
• 37:40
  once
• 37:40
  these
• 37:40
  floors
• 37:41
  have
• 37:41
  failed,
• 37:41
  they
• 37:42
  are
• 37:42
  throwaway
• 37:42
  floors.
• 37:43
  There's
• 37:43
  not
• 37:43
  a
• 37:43
  whole
• 37:43
  lot
• 37:43
  you
• 37:44
  can
• 37:44
  do.
• 37:44
  Once
• 37:44
  those
• 37:44
  tongues
• 37:45
  and
• 37:45
  grooves
• 37:45
  have
• 37:45
  cracked,
• 37:46
  that's
• 37:46
  it.
• 37:47
  Then
• 37:47
  you're
• 37:47
  into
• 37:47
  replacing
• 37:48
  a
• 37:48
  floor.
• 37:48
  So
• 37:49
  definitely
• 37:49
  prep
• 37:49
  work
• 37:50
  I
• 37:50
  find
• 37:50
  to
• 37:51
  be
• 37:51
  big
• 37:51
  factor
• 37:52
  in
• 37:52
  failures
• 37:53
  when
• 37:53
  things
• 37:53
  like
• 37:54
  this
• 37:54
  happen.
• 37:55
  Yeah,
• 37:55
  I
• 37:55
  love
• 37:56
  watching
• 37:56
  water
• 37:56
  damage.
• 37:57
  We,
• 37:57
  I
• 37:57
  had
• 37:58
  one
• 37:58
  that
• 37:58
  my
• 37:58
  brother
• 37:59
  and
• 37:59
  I
• 37:59
  picked
• 37:59
  up
• 37:59
  a
• 37:59
  house
• 37:59
  out
• 37:59
  at
• 38:00
  Canna
• 38:00
  beach
• 38:00
  that
• 38:00
  we
• 38:00
  worked
• 38:01
  on
• 38:01
  a
• 38:01
  few
• 38:01
  years
• 38:01
  back
• 38:01
  and
• 38:03
  it
• 38:03
  was
• 38:03
  known
• 38:03
  as
• 38:03
  the
• 38:04
  blue
• 38:04
  tarp
• 38:04
  house.
• 38:04
  It
• 38:04
  had
• 38:05
  15
• 38:05
  years
• 38:06
  of
• 38:06
  blue
• 38:06
  tarps
• 38:06
  on
• 38:06
  this
• 38:07
  roof.
• 38:07
  And
• 38:08
  when
• 38:08
  we
• 38:08
  went
• 38:08
  to
• 38:09
  look
• 38:09
  at
• 38:09
  it
• 38:09
  probably
• 38:10
  three
• 38:10
  years
• 38:10
  ago,
• 38:12
  that
• 38:12
  had
• 38:12
  so
• 38:13
  had
• 38:13
  so
• 38:14
  many
• 38:14
  blue
• 38:14
  tarps
• 38:14
  up
• 38:14
  on
• 38:15
  it.
• 38:15
  But
• 38:15
  the
• 38:15
  water
• 38:15
  was
• 38:15
  coming
• 38:15
  through
• 38:16
  the
• 38:16
  ceiling
• 38:16
  like
• 38:17
  halfway
• 38:17
  on
• 38:18
  garden
• 38:18
  hose.
• 38:18
  And
• 38:18
  it
• 38:18
  was
• 38:19
  hitting
• 38:19
  the
• 38:19
  hardwood
• 38:19
  floors
• 38:20
  in
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  oak
• 38:21
  floors
• 38:21
  in
• 38:21
  the
• 38:21
  living
• 38:21
  room.
• 38:22
  I'd
• 38:22
  never
• 38:22
  seen
• 38:23
  it
• 38:23
  this
• 38:24
  bad.
• 38:24
  I'm
• 38:24
  sure
• 38:24
  you
• 38:24
  guys
• 38:25
  have.
• 38:25
  But
• 38:26
  the
• 38:26
  two,
• 38:26
  two
• 38:26
  and
• 38:27
  a
• 38:27
  quarter
• 38:27
  pieces
• 38:27
  had
• 38:28
  swelled
• 38:28
  up
• 38:28
  in
• 38:28
  the
• 38:28
  living
• 38:29
  room
• 38:29
  so
• 38:29
  much
• 38:29
  they
• 38:30
  were
• 38:30
  back
• 38:30
  to
• 38:30
  back
• 38:31
  and
• 38:31
  it
• 38:31
  was
• 38:32
  three
• 38:33
  inches
• 38:33
  up
• 38:33
  in
• 38:33
  the
• 38:33
  middle
• 38:34
  of
• 38:34
  the
• 38:34
  floor.
• 38:35
  And
• 38:35
  I
• 38:35
  was
• 38:35
  like,
• 38:36
  wow,
• 38:37
  holy
• 38:37
  smokes.
• 38:38
  Shows
• 38:38
  you
• 38:39
  how
• 38:39
  much
• 38:39
  that
• 38:39
  floor
• 38:40
  can
• 38:40
  move
• 38:40
  when
• 38:41
  it
• 38:41
  gets
• 38:41
  too
• 38:41
  much
• 38:42
  moisture
• 38:42
  in
• 38:42
  it.
• 38:43
  Absolutely,
• 38:44
  absolutely.
• 38:44
  And,
• 38:45
  and,
• 38:45
  and
• 38:46
  you,
• 38:46
  you're
• 38:46
  mentioning
• 38:47
  kind
• 38:47
  of
• 38:47
  an
• 38:47
  extreme
• 38:47
  with
• 38:48
  a
• 38:48
  lot
• 38:48
  of
• 38:48
  water
• 38:48
  coming
• 38:49
  in
• 38:49
  and
• 38:49
  like
• 38:50
  a
• 38:50
  big
• 38:50
  flooding
• 38:50
  situation.
• 38:51
  But
• 38:51
  I
• 38:52
  also
• 38:52
  see
• 38:52
  this
• 38:52
  happening
• 38:53
  when
• 38:53
  it
• 38:53
  comes
• 38:53
  to
• 38:54
  people's
• 38:54
  H
• 38:54
  vac
• 38:55
  systems.
• 38:55
  A
• 38:55
  lot
• 38:56
  of
• 38:56
  times
• 38:56
  the
• 38:56
  humidity
• 38:57
  levels
• 38:57
  will
• 38:58
  be
• 38:58
  off.
• 38:58
  It's
• 38:59
  too
• 38:59
  wet
• 38:59
  inside
• 39:00
  your
• 39:00
  house.
• 39:01
  Sometimes
• 39:01
  it
• 39:01
  could
• 39:01
  be
• 39:02
  weather
• 39:02
  related.
• 39:02
  Sometimes
• 39:03
  it
• 39:03
  can
• 39:03
  be
• 39:03
  other
• 39:04
  factors
• 39:04
  related
• 39:05
  to
• 39:05
  how
• 39:05
  your
• 39:05
  house
• 39:05
  is
• 39:06
  kind
• 39:06
  of
• 39:06
  of
• 39:06
  sealed
• 39:06
  up
• 39:07
  or
• 39:07
  not
• 39:07
  sealed
• 39:07
  up
• 39:08
  one
• 39:08
  way
• 39:08
  or
• 39:08
  another.
• 39:09
  And
• 39:09
  wood
• 39:10
  floors
• 39:10
  especially.
• 39:11
  But
• 39:11
  also
• 39:11
  some
• 39:12
  of
• 39:12
  these
• 39:12
  plastic
• 39:12
  LVPs
• 39:13
  and
• 39:13
  other
• 39:13
  floors,
• 39:14
  they
• 39:14
  are
• 39:15
  very
• 39:15
  sensitive
• 39:15
  to
• 39:15
  moisture
• 39:16
  and
• 39:16
  temperature.
• 39:16
  They
• 39:17
  have
• 39:17
  a
• 39:17
  sweet
• 39:17
  spot.
• 39:18
  We
• 39:18
  kind
• 39:18
  of
• 39:18
  call
• 39:18
  it
• 39:19
  like
• 39:19
  a
• 39:19
  Goldilocks
• 39:20
  level.
• 39:20
  Right.
• 39:20
  You
• 39:21
  want
• 39:21
  to
• 39:21
  have
• 39:21
  your
• 39:21
  home
• 39:22
  between
• 39:22
  60
• 39:23
  and
• 39:23
  80
• 39:23
  degrees
• 39:24
  Fahrenheit
• 39:24
  and
• 39:25
  you
• 39:25
  want
• 39:25
  your
• 39:25
  humidity
• 39:26
  levels
• 39:26
  between
• 39:27
  30
• 39:27
  and
• 39:27
  50%
• 39:28
  relative
• 39:28
  humidity
• 39:29
  year
• 39:30
  round
• 39:30
  for
• 39:30
  the
• 39:30
  life
• 39:31
  of
• 39:31
  the
• 39:31
  floor.
• 39:32
  And
• 39:32
  if
• 39:32
  you
• 39:32
  can't
• 39:33
  maintain
• 39:33
  your
• 39:34
  home
• 39:34
  conditions
• 39:35
  within
• 39:35
  those
• 39:35
  parameters,
• 39:36
  you
• 39:36
  will
• 39:36
  have
• 39:37
  problems.
• 39:37
  They're
• 39:37
  going
• 39:37
  to
• 39:37
  be
• 39:38
  cupping
• 39:38
  and
• 39:38
  crowning.
• 39:39
  They're
• 39:39
  going
• 39:39
  to
• 39:39
  be
• 39:39
  gapping
• 39:39
  when
• 39:40
  it's
• 39:40
  really
• 39:40
  dry.
• 39:41
  And,
• 39:41
  and
• 39:41
  that's
• 39:42
  a
• 39:42
  normal
• 39:42
  behavior
• 39:43
  for
• 39:43
  a
• 39:43
  wood
• 39:43
  floor
• 39:44
  or
• 39:44
  even
• 39:44
  a
• 39:44
  plastic
• 39:45
  floor
• 39:45
  to
• 39:45
  do
• 39:45
  for.
• 39:46
  It's
• 39:46
  kind
• 39:47
  of
• 39:47
  like
• 39:47
  people.
• 39:47
  They're
• 39:47
  like
• 39:48
  living,
• 39:48
  breathing
• 39:49
  products
• 39:49
  because
• 39:50
  they
• 39:50
  do
• 39:50
  move
• 39:50
  and
• 39:51
  change
• 39:51
  with
• 39:51
  the
• 39:52
  changes
• 39:52
  of
• 39:52
  these
• 39:53
  conditions.
• 39:53
  And
• 39:54
  a
• 39:54
  Lot
• 39:54
  of
• 39:54
  people
• 39:54
  think
• 39:55
  you
• 39:55
  just
• 39:55
  put
• 39:55
  it
• 39:55
  in
• 39:56
  and
• 39:56
  you
• 39:56
  forget
• 39:56
  about
• 39:57
  it
• 39:57
  and
• 39:57
  don't
• 39:57
  have
• 39:58
  to
• 39:58
  worry
• 39:58
  about
• 39:58
  it.
• 39:58
  But
• 39:58
  as
• 39:58
  soon
• 39:59
  as,
• 39:59
  as
• 39:59
  one
• 39:59
  of
• 39:59
  these
• 40:00
  conditions
• 40:00
  changes,
• 40:01
  that
• 40:01
  floor
• 40:01
  is
• 40:02
  going
• 40:02
  to
• 40:02
  adapt
• 40:03
  to
• 40:03
  that
• 40:03
  and
• 40:03
  change.
• 40:03
  And
• 40:04
  it
• 40:04
  could
• 40:04
  be
• 40:04
  problematic,
• 40:05
  could
• 40:06
  be
• 40:06
  normal
• 40:06
  behavior.
• 40:07
  Again,
• 40:07
  some
• 40:07
  of
• 40:07
  those
• 40:08
  things
• 40:08
  can
• 40:08
  be
• 40:08
  seasonal.
• 40:09
  When
• 40:09
  it
• 40:09
  gets
• 40:10
  really
• 40:10
  dry
• 40:10
  outside,
• 40:11
  the
• 40:11
  air
• 40:11
  is,
• 40:12
  is
• 40:12
  a
• 40:12
  little
• 40:12
  bit
• 40:12
  drier,
• 40:13
  so
• 40:13
  you
• 40:13
  might
• 40:13
  see
• 40:14
  some
• 40:14
  shrinkage.
• 40:15
  If
• 40:15
  it's
• 40:15
  super
• 40:16
  rainy
• 40:16
  and
• 40:16
  wet
• 40:17
  and
• 40:17
  you
• 40:17
  might
• 40:17
  see
• 40:18
  them
• 40:18
  swell
• 40:18
  up
• 40:19
  a
• 40:19
  little
• 40:19
  bit.
• 40:19
  And
• 40:19
  then
• 40:19
  when
• 40:20
  that
• 40:20
  season
• 40:20
  changes,
• 40:21
  that'll
• 40:21
  go
• 40:21
  back
• 40:21
  to
• 40:22
  normal.
• 40:22
  That
• 40:22
  would
• 40:22
  be
• 40:22
  normal
• 40:23
  seasonal
• 40:23
  change
• 40:24
  on
• 40:24
  a
• 40:24
  floor.
• 40:25
  But
• 40:25
  that
• 40:25
  if
• 40:25
  it's
• 40:26
  not
• 40:26
  happening
• 40:26
  on
• 40:27
  a,
• 40:27
  on
• 40:27
  a
• 40:27
  regular
• 40:27
  basis,
• 40:28
  then
• 40:28
  it
• 40:28
  might
• 40:28
  be
• 40:29
  something
• 40:29
  that's
• 40:29
  problematic
• 40:30
  to
• 40:30
  the
• 40:30
  conditions
• 40:30
  of
• 40:31
  the
• 40:31
  home.
• 40:32
  So
• 40:32
  true.
• 40:32
  I
• 40:33
  had
• 40:33
  an
• 40:33
  expert
• 40:34
  on
• 40:34
  here
• 40:34
  a
• 40:34
  few
• 40:34
  weeks
• 40:34
  ago
• 40:35
  that
• 40:35
  said
• 40:35
  that
• 40:35
  81%
• 40:36
  of
• 40:37
  homes
• 40:37
  in
• 40:37
  the
• 40:37
  United
• 40:38
  States
• 40:39
  needed
• 40:39
  dehumidification.
• 40:41
  And
• 40:41
  I'm
• 40:42
  like,
• 40:42
  holy
• 40:42
  smokes.
• 40:43
  So
• 40:43
  if
• 40:44
  you're
• 40:44
  getting
• 40:44
  up
• 40:44
  in
• 40:44
  that
• 40:45
  50,
• 40:45
  60%.
• 40:47
  Yeah.
• 40:47
  Now
• 40:47
  everything's
• 40:48
  getting
• 40:48
  expanded.
• 40:49
  And
• 40:49
  then
• 40:49
  when
• 40:49
  we
• 40:49
  get
• 40:49
  into
• 40:49
  those
• 40:50
  months,
• 40:50
  whether
• 40:50
  it's
• 40:50
  in
• 40:52
  wherever
• 40:52
  you're
• 40:52
  at
• 40:52
  in
• 40:52
  the
• 40:52
  country
• 40:53
  where
• 40:53
  maybe
• 40:53
  you've
• 40:53
  got
• 40:54
  the
• 40:54
  air
• 40:54
  conditioning
• 40:54
  running
• 40:54
  and
• 40:55
  it's
• 40:55
  way
• 40:55
  dry
• 40:55
  or
• 40:56
  the
• 40:56
  heat
• 40:56
  running
• 40:56
  and
• 40:56
  it's
• 40:57
  dry.
• 40:58
  Yeah,
• 40:58
  that's
• 40:58
  just
• 40:58
  more
• 40:59
  problems
• 40:59
  of
• 40:59
  things
• 41:00
  moving
• 41:00
  around,
• 41:00
  the,
• 41:01
  the
• 41:01
  more
• 41:01
  stable
• 41:02
  you
• 41:02
  can
• 41:02
  keep
• 41:02
  it,
• 41:02
  the
• 41:03
  happier
• 41:03
  the
• 41:03
  whole
• 41:03
  house
• 41:03
  is.
• 41:04
  Well.
• 41:04
  And
• 41:04
  the
• 41:05
  more
• 41:05
  happy
• 41:05
  you
• 41:05
  are
• 41:05
  as
• 41:06
  a
• 41:06
  person.
• 41:06
  If
• 41:06
  you
• 41:06
  can
• 41:06
  put
• 41:07
  a
• 41:07
  humidification
• 41:08
  system
• 41:08
  control
• 41:08
  in
• 41:09
  your
• 41:09
  own
• 41:09
  house,
• 41:09
  it's
• 41:10
  actually
• 41:10
  better
• 41:10
  for
• 41:10
  you
• 41:11
  to
• 41:11
  live
• 41:11
  in.
• 41:11
  It
• 41:12
  actually
• 41:12
  will
• 41:12
  change
• 41:12
  your
• 41:13
  energy
• 41:13
  bills,
• 41:14
  your,
• 41:14
  your
• 41:14
  heating,
• 41:14
  your
• 41:15
  actual
• 41:15
  heating
• 41:15
  system
• 41:16
  and
• 41:16
  air
• 41:16
  conditioning
• 41:17
  system
• 41:17
  are
• 41:17
  more
• 41:17
  efficient.
• 41:18
  And
• 41:19
  then
• 41:19
  all
• 41:19
  of
• 41:19
  your
• 41:19
  wood
• 41:20
  products
• 41:20
  in
• 41:20
  your
• 41:20
  entire
• 41:21
  house.
• 41:21
  And
• 41:21
  it's
• 41:21
  not
• 41:21
  just
• 41:22
  the
• 41:22
  wood
• 41:22
  floor.
• 41:22
  It
• 41:22
  could
• 41:23
  be
• 41:23
  the,
• 41:23
  the,
• 41:23
  the
• 41:24
  wood
• 41:24
  casing
• 41:24
  around
• 41:25
  your
• 41:25
  windows
• 41:25
  and
• 41:25
  doors,
• 41:26
  trims,
• 41:26
  your
• 41:27
  cabinetry.
• 41:27
  All
• 41:27
  of
• 41:28
  that
• 41:28
  stuff
• 41:28
  is
• 41:28
  sen.
• 41:29
  A
• 41:29
  lot
• 41:29
  of
• 41:29
  times
• 41:30
  you
• 41:30
  don't
• 41:30
  pay
• 41:30
  attention
• 41:30
  to
• 41:31
  the
• 41:31
  little
• 41:31
  gaps
• 41:31
  and
• 41:32
  cracks
• 41:32
  that
• 41:32
  are
• 41:32
  everywhere
• 41:33
  or
• 41:33
  whether
• 41:33
  they
• 41:34
  swell
• 41:34
  up
• 41:34
  or
• 41:35
  shrink
• 41:35
  down.
• 41:35
  But
• 41:36
  those
• 41:36
  are
• 41:36
  happening
• 41:36
  all
• 41:37
  the
• 41:37
  time
• 41:37
  throughout
• 41:38
  your
• 41:38
  entire
• 41:38
  structure.
• 41:39
  Yeah,
• 41:40
  I
• 41:40
  saw
• 41:40
  insurance
• 41:41
  claim
• 41:42
  probably
• 41:42
  10
• 41:42
  years
• 41:43
  ago
• 41:43
  and
• 41:43
  my
• 41:44
  background
• 41:44
  is
• 41:44
  a
• 41:45
  kitchen,
• 41:45
  a
• 41:45
  bath
• 41:45
  designer.
• 41:46
  They
• 41:47
  had
• 41:47
  your
• 41:47
  typical
• 41:48
  80s
• 41:48
  90s
• 41:49
  thermofoil
• 41:50
  cabinet.
• 41:50
  So
• 41:50
  it's
• 41:50
  the
• 41:50
  particle
• 41:51
  board
• 41:51
  with
• 41:51
  the
• 41:51
  vinyl
• 41:52
  wrapped
• 41:52
  around
• 41:52
  them
• 41:52
  that's
• 41:52
  shrink
• 41:53
  wrapped.
• 41:54
  I
• 41:54
  walked
• 41:54
  in
• 41:55
  and
• 41:56
  I
• 41:56
  have
• 41:57
  never
• 41:57
  seen
• 41:57
  woods
• 41:58
  just
• 41:58
  swell
• 41:59
  up
• 41:59
  like
• 41:59
  that.
• 42:00
  Well,
• 42:00
  come
• 42:00
  to
• 42:00
  find
• 42:00
  out
• 42:01
  it
• 42:01
  was
• 42:01
  a
• 42:01
  rental
• 42:02
  and
• 42:02
  the
• 42:02
  people
• 42:02
  had
• 42:03
  in
• 42:03
  the
• 42:03
  basement
• 42:03
  had
• 42:04
  a
• 42:04
  pot
• 42:04
  shop
• 42:04
  going
• 42:04
  down
• 42:05
  there.
• 42:05
  So
• 42:06
  they
• 42:06
  were
• 42:06
  80%
• 42:07
  humidity
• 42:08
  in
• 42:08
  this
• 42:08
  house.
• 42:08
  And
• 42:09
  they
• 42:09
  were
• 42:09
  doing
• 42:09
  the
• 42:09
  basement.
• 42:10
  And
• 42:11
  I
• 42:11
  had
• 42:11
  never
• 42:12
  seen
• 42:12
  anything
• 42:13
  explode
• 42:14
  like
• 42:14
  that
• 42:15
  because
• 42:15
  the
• 42:15
  doors
• 42:16
  had
• 42:16
  fractures
• 42:17
  from
• 42:17
  where
• 42:17
  the
• 42:17
  vinyl
• 42:18
  had
• 42:18
  just
• 42:18
  tore
• 42:19
  apart
• 42:19
  because
• 42:19
  the
• 42:20
  particle
• 42:20
  board
• 42:21
  really
• 42:21
  had
• 42:21
  swelled
• 42:22
  up
• 42:22
  probably
• 42:22
  30
• 42:23
  or
• 42:23
  40%
• 42:25
  just
• 42:25
  from
• 42:25
  the
• 42:25
  humidity.
• 42:27
  And
• 42:27
  I
• 42:27
  wish
• 42:27
  I
• 42:27
  would
• 42:27
  have
• 42:28
  taken
• 42:28
  better
• 42:28
  pictures
• 42:29
  back
• 42:29
  then
• 42:29
  because
• 42:30
  it
• 42:30
  just
• 42:30
  told
• 42:30
  such
• 42:31
  a
• 42:31
  story
• 42:31
  about
• 42:31
  humidity
• 42:32
  in
• 42:32
  the
• 42:32
  house.
• 42:33
  Of
• 42:33
  visually,
• 42:34
  what
• 42:34
  happens
• 42:34
  if
• 42:35
  you
• 42:35
  don't
• 42:35
  control
• 42:35
  it?
• 42:36
  Yeah,
• 42:36
  yeah,
• 42:37
  yeah.
• 42:37
  And
• 42:37
  I
• 42:38
  guess
• 42:38
  kind
• 42:38
  of
• 42:38
  the.
• 42:38
  The
• 42:39
  other
• 42:39
  side
• 42:39
  of
• 42:39
  it,
• 42:39
  a
• 42:39
  really
• 42:40
  dry
• 42:40
  floor,
• 42:40
  you'll
• 42:41
  have
• 42:41
  problems
• 42:41
  as
• 42:42
  well.
• 42:42
  We
• 42:42
  talk
• 42:42
  about
• 42:42
  all
• 42:43
  the
• 42:43
  extremes
• 42:43
  because
• 42:44
  they're.
• 42:44
  They're
• 42:44
  the
• 42:45
  ones
• 42:45
  that
• 42:45
  are
• 42:45
  most
• 42:45
  catastrophic
• 42:46
  when
• 42:46
  it
• 42:46
  comes
• 42:46
  to
• 42:47
  high
• 42:47
  humidity
• 42:47
  levels
• 42:48
  or
• 42:48
  high
• 42:48
  levels
• 42:48
  of
• 42:49
  moisture
• 42:49
  on
• 42:49
  the
• 42:50
  other.
• 42:50
  On
• 42:50
  the
• 42:50
  other
• 42:50
  hand,
• 42:50
  and
• 42:51
  low
• 42:51
  humidity
• 42:51
  levels,
• 42:52
  you'll
• 42:52
  end
• 42:52
  with
• 42:52
  up
• 42:53
  with
• 42:53
  very
• 42:53
  gappy
• 42:54
  floors.
• 42:54
  And
• 42:55
  then
• 42:55
  typically
• 42:55
  they'll
• 42:55
  get
• 42:56
  loose
• 42:56
  and
• 42:56
  you'll
• 42:57
  develop
• 42:57
  squeaks
• 42:57
  and
• 42:58
  pops
• 42:58
  and,
• 42:59
  and
• 42:59
  other
• 42:59
  issues.
• 42:59
  And
• 43:00
  I've
• 43:00
  seen,
• 43:01
  I've
• 43:01
  seen
• 43:01
  it
• 43:01
  go
• 43:01
  both
• 43:02
  ways.
• 43:02
  I've
• 43:02
  seen
• 43:03
  installers
• 43:03
  install
• 43:03
  floors
• 43:04
  that
• 43:04
  are
• 43:04
  too
• 43:04
  wet
• 43:04
  and
• 43:05
  they
• 43:05
  dry
• 43:05
  out
• 43:05
  in
• 43:05
  the
• 43:05
  house
• 43:06
  and
• 43:06
  shrink
• 43:06
  up.
• 43:07
  And
• 43:07
  I'll
• 43:07
  get
• 43:07
  phone
• 43:08
  calls.
• 43:08
  Hey,
• 43:08
  my
• 43:08
  floor
• 43:09
  is
• 43:09
  really
• 43:09
  poppy.
• 43:09
  It's
• 43:10
  bouncing
• 43:10
  around.
• 43:11
  Things
• 43:11
  are
• 43:11
  doing
• 43:11
  stuff.
• 43:12
  It
• 43:12
  was
• 43:12
  nailed
• 43:13
  down.
• 43:13
  I
• 43:13
  don't
• 43:13
  know
• 43:14
  what
• 43:14
  happened.
• 43:14
  And
• 43:15
  it's
• 43:15
  just.
• 43:15
  The
• 43:15
  floor
• 43:16
  just
• 43:17
  shrank
• 43:17
  down
• 43:17
  and
• 43:18
  it's
• 43:18
  too
• 43:18
  small.
• 43:20
  Yeah,
• 43:21
  absolutely.
• 43:21
  And
• 43:22
  then,
• 43:22
  then
• 43:22
  that's
• 43:23
  a
• 43:23
  hard
• 43:23
  one.
• 43:23
  Says,
• 43:23
  okay,
• 43:24
  what
• 43:24
  are
• 43:24
  you
• 43:24
  going
• 43:24
  to
• 43:24
  do
• 43:24
  to
• 43:24
  get
• 43:24
  it?
• 43:25
  Are
• 43:25
  you
• 43:25
  going
• 43:25
  to
• 43:25
  raise
• 43:26
  humidity
• 43:26
  in
• 43:26
  there
• 43:26
  slowly?
• 43:27
  What
• 43:27
  are
• 43:27
  you
• 43:27
  going
• 43:27
  to
• 43:27
  do
• 43:27
  so
• 43:27
  you
• 43:28
  don't
• 43:28
  over.
• 43:29
  Overcompensate
• 43:30
  for
• 43:30
  that?
• 43:31
  Yeah,
• 43:31
  yeah.
• 43:31
  And
• 43:32
  unfortunately,
• 43:32
  if
• 43:32
  you're.
• 43:33
  If
• 43:33
  the
• 43:33
  floor
• 43:33
  was
• 43:33
  just
• 43:34
  that
• 43:34
  wet
• 43:34
  and
• 43:34
  it
• 43:34
  shrank
• 43:35
  that
• 43:35
  much,
• 43:35
  there's
• 43:36
  really
• 43:36
  nothing,
• 43:36
  nothing
• 43:37
  you
• 43:37
  can
• 43:37
  do.
• 43:39
  You
• 43:39
  make
• 43:39
  your
• 43:39
  whole
• 43:40
  house.
• 43:42
  So
• 43:42
  I
• 43:42
  wanted
• 43:42
  to
• 43:43
  give
• 43:43
  a
• 43:43
  little
• 43:43
  public
• 43:44
  service
• 43:44
  announcement
• 43:45
  too,
• 43:45
  for
• 43:45
  you
• 43:45
  DIYers
• 43:46
  and
• 43:46
  even
• 43:47
  contractors
• 43:47
  out
• 43:48
  there.
• 43:49
  If
• 43:49
  you're
• 43:49
  working
• 43:49
  in
• 43:50
  that
• 43:50
  old
• 43:50
  house
• 43:51
  and
• 43:52
  you
• 43:52
  see
• 43:53
  this
• 43:53
  black
• 43:54
  tar
• 43:55
  adhesive
• 43:56
  on
• 43:56
  the
• 43:56
  hardwood,
• 43:58
  slow
• 43:58
  your
• 43:59
  roll
• 44:00
  and
• 44:00
  do
• 44:00
  some
• 44:00
  testing.
• 44:01
  I
• 44:02
  have
• 44:02
  seen
• 44:02
  so
• 44:03
  many
• 44:03
  social
• 44:03
  media
• 44:04
  pictures
• 44:04
  out
• 44:04
  there
• 44:04
  of
• 44:05
  people,
• 44:05
  hey,
• 44:05
  I'm
• 44:05
  working
• 44:06
  on
• 44:06
  this.
• 44:06
  And
• 44:06
  what's
• 44:06
  this
• 44:06
  gummy
• 44:07
  stuff?
• 44:07
  I'm
• 44:07
  just
• 44:07
  gonna
• 44:08
  sand
• 44:08
  it.
• 44:09
  That
• 44:09
  can
• 44:09
  be
• 44:10
  an
• 44:10
  issue.
• 44:10
  So
• 44:11
  be
• 44:11
  careful.
• 44:11
  That
• 44:11
  asbestos
• 44:13
  mastic
• 44:13
  out
• 44:14
  there,
• 44:15
  it
• 44:15
  can
• 44:15
  be
• 44:15
  an
• 44:15
  issue,
• 44:16
  guys.
• 44:16
  So
• 44:16
  be
• 44:16
  careful
• 44:17
  out
• 44:17
  there
• 44:17
  when
• 44:17
  you're,
• 44:17
  when
• 44:18
  you're
• 44:18
  trying
• 44:18
  to
• 44:18
  take
• 44:18
  down
• 44:19
  or
• 44:19
  save
• 44:19
  that
• 44:19
  old
• 44:20
  1920s
• 44:20
  floor
• 44:21
  that
• 44:21
  maybe
• 44:21
  somebody
• 44:21
  in
• 44:22
  1955
• 44:23
  said,
• 44:24
  I'm
• 44:24
  not
• 44:24
  finishing.
• 44:24
  I'm
• 44:25
  putting
• 44:25
  this
• 44:26
  vinyl
• 44:26
  down.
• 44:27
  And,
• 44:27
  well,
• 44:28
  you
• 44:28
  could
• 44:29
  have
• 44:29
  a
• 44:29
  hot
• 44:29
  mess
• 44:29
  going
• 44:29
  on
• 44:30
  there
• 44:30
  and
• 44:30
  you
• 44:30
  could
• 44:31
  make
• 44:31
  it
• 44:31
  A
• 44:31
  lot
• 44:32
  worse
• 44:32
  if
• 44:32
  you
• 44:33
  don't
• 44:33
  handle
• 44:33
  it
• 44:33
  correctly.
• 44:34
  Titus,
• 44:35
  how
• 44:35
  do
• 44:35
  you
• 44:35
  guys
• 44:35
  deal
• 44:35
  with
• 44:36
  that
• 44:36
  stuff?
• 44:36
  Is
• 44:36
  that
• 44:36
  somewhere
• 44:37
  you
• 44:37
  just
• 44:37
  bring
• 44:37
  in
• 44:37
  the
• 44:37
  asbestos
• 44:38
  people,
• 44:38
  let
• 44:38
  them
• 44:39
  take
• 44:39
  care
• 44:39
  of
• 44:39
  her,
• 44:39
  then
• 44:39
  come
• 44:40
  in
• 44:40
  afterwards?
• 44:40
  Or
• 44:40
  what's
• 44:41
  the
• 44:41
  best
• 44:41
  way.
• 44:42
  I've
• 44:42
  seen
• 44:42
  it
• 44:42
  where
• 44:42
  it's
• 44:42
  almost
• 44:43
  cheaper
• 44:43
  to
• 44:43
  rip
• 44:43
  it
• 44:43
  out,
• 44:44
  unfortunately.
• 44:45
  Yeah,
• 44:45
  so
• 44:45
  it's.
• 44:46
  It's
• 44:46
  a
• 44:46
  little
• 44:46
  bit
• 44:46
  dependent,
• 44:47
  unfortunately,
• 44:47
  with
• 44:47
  asbestos.
• 44:49
  You
• 44:49
  have
• 44:50
  to
• 44:50
  call
• 44:50
  the
• 44:50
  asbestos
• 44:51
  people
• 44:51
  and
• 44:51
  have
• 44:51
  them
• 44:51
  take
• 44:52
  care
• 44:52
  of
• 44:52
  it,
• 44:52
  even
• 44:52
  if
• 44:52
  they
• 44:53
  have
• 44:53
  to
• 44:53
  tear
• 44:53
  it
• 44:53
  out
• 44:53
  in
• 44:53
  the
• 44:54
  sense
• 44:54
  that
• 44:54
  we're
• 44:54
  not
• 44:54
  allowed
• 44:55
  to
• 44:55
  disturb
• 44:55
  it.
• 44:56
  Asbestos
• 44:56
  or
• 44:57
  lead
• 44:57
  paints,
• 44:58
  those
• 44:58
  need
• 44:58
  to
• 44:58
  be
• 44:58
  tested
• 44:59
  as
• 44:59
  well.
• 45:00
  After.
• 45:00
  After
• 45:01
  they're
• 45:01
  tested,
• 45:01
  obviously
• 45:02
  we
• 45:02
  can
• 45:02
  do
• 45:02
  what
• 45:02
  we
• 45:02
  need
• 45:02
  to
• 45:03
  do.
• 45:03
  Even
• 45:03
  those.
• 45:04
  Even
• 45:04
  that.
• 45:04
  The
• 45:04
  gummy
• 45:05
  black
• 45:05
  tar
• 45:06
  mastic.
• 45:07
  Even
• 45:07
  if
• 45:07
  it
• 45:07
  tests
• 45:08
  negative
• 45:08
  for
• 45:08
  asbestos,
• 45:09
  it's
• 45:09
  still
• 45:09
  quite
• 45:09
  a
• 45:10
  bit
• 45:10
  of
• 45:10
  work.
• 45:10
  Typically
• 45:11
  we're
• 45:11
  actually
• 45:11
  using
• 45:12
  planers
• 45:13
  attached
• 45:13
  to
• 45:13
  our
• 45:13
  drum
• 45:14
  sanders,
• 45:14
  custom
• 45:15
  made
• 45:15
  planers
• 45:15
  to
• 45:15
  shave
• 45:16
  all
• 45:16
  that
• 45:16
  off.
• 45:16
  Because
• 45:17
  you'll
• 45:17
  be
• 45:17
  there
• 45:17
  for.
• 45:18
  You'll
• 45:18
  be
• 45:18
  there
• 45:18
  for
• 45:18
  weeks
• 45:19
  trying
• 45:19
  to
• 45:19
  get
• 45:19
  it
• 45:19
  off.
• 45:20
  I
• 45:21
  had
• 45:21
  that
• 45:21
  at
• 45:21
  my
• 45:21
  brother's
• 45:21
  house
• 45:22
  where
• 45:22
  we
• 45:22
  had
• 45:22
  that
• 45:22
  same
• 45:23
  thing.
• 45:23
  And
• 45:23
  he
• 45:23
  had
• 45:23
  an
• 45:23
  old
• 45:24
  house
• 45:24
  in
• 45:24
  Yakima,
• 45:25
  Washington,
• 45:25
  that
• 45:25
  was
• 45:26
  1920s.
• 45:27
  And
• 45:27
  the
• 45:27
  second
• 45:28
  floor
• 45:28
  had
• 45:28
  a
• 45:28
  fur
• 45:29
  floor
• 45:29
  down,
• 45:29
  but
• 45:29
  they
• 45:29
  had
• 45:30
  went
• 45:31
  down
• 45:31
  to
• 45:31
  Linoleum
• 45:32
  City
• 45:32
  or
• 45:32
  whatever
• 45:32
  and
• 45:33
  threw
• 45:33
  something
• 45:33
  on
• 45:33
  it
• 45:33
  and
• 45:33
  had
• 45:34
  all
• 45:34
  that
• 45:34
  black
• 45:34
  on
• 45:34
  it.
• 45:35
  And
• 45:35
  that
• 45:35
  was
• 45:35
  a
• 45:35
  nightmare.
• 45:36
  Tested
• 45:37
  it,
• 45:37
  it
• 45:37
  was
• 45:37
  fine,
• 45:38
  which
• 45:38
  I
• 45:38
  thought
• 45:38
  was
• 45:38
  kind
• 45:39
  of
• 45:39
  rare.
• 45:39
  I
• 45:39
  was
• 45:39
  happy
• 45:39
  about
• 45:39
  that.
• 45:40
  But
• 45:40
  there
• 45:41
  was
• 45:41
  no
• 45:41
  easy
• 45:41
  way
• 45:42
  to
• 45:42
  get
• 45:42
  that
• 45:42
  stuff
• 45:42
  off
• 45:42
  without
• 45:43
  making
• 45:43
  a
• 45:43
  hot
• 45:43
  mess.
• 45:44
  There's
• 45:45
  no
• 45:45
  easy
• 45:45
  way.
• 45:46
  Some
• 45:46
  things
• 45:46
  that
• 45:46
  we've
• 45:46
  done
• 45:47
  in
• 45:47
  the
• 45:47
  past
• 45:47
  is
• 45:47
  we've
• 45:47
  actually
• 45:48
  installed
• 45:48
  hardwood
• 45:49
  floors
• 45:49
  on
• 45:49
  top
• 45:50
  of
• 45:50
  their
• 45:50
  existing
• 45:50
  hardwood
• 45:51
  floors,
• 45:51
  which
• 45:51
  I
• 45:51
  know
• 45:52
  some
• 45:52
  people
• 45:52
  advocate
• 45:53
  against
• 45:53
  the
• 45:53
  layering.
• 45:54
  But
• 45:54
  when
• 45:55
  you
• 45:55
  have
• 45:55
  asbestos
• 45:55
  abatement,
• 45:56
  it's.
• 45:56
  It
• 45:56
  can
• 45:56
  be
• 45:57
  a
• 45:57
  pretty
• 45:57
  costly
• 45:58
  fiasco
• 45:59
  when
• 45:59
  you
• 45:59
  have
• 45:59
  to
• 45:59
  deal
• 46:00
  with
• 46:00
  that.
• 46:00
  You
• 46:01
  are
• 46:01
  able
• 46:01
  to
• 46:01
  install
• 46:02
  wood
• 46:02
  floors
• 46:02
  on
• 46:03
  top
• 46:03
  of
• 46:03
  your
• 46:03
  existing
• 46:03
  wood.
• 46:04
  Wood
• 46:04
  floors.
• 46:04
  So
• 46:05
  you
• 46:05
  just
• 46:05
  run
• 46:05
  it
• 46:05
  perpendicular
• 46:06
  to
• 46:07
  your
• 46:07
  existing
• 46:08
  and
• 46:08
  you
• 46:08
  can
• 46:08
  add
• 46:09
  another
• 46:09
  layer.
• 46:10
  There
• 46:10
  we
• 46:10
  go.
• 46:11
  We
• 46:11
  all
• 46:11
  saw
• 46:11
  what
• 46:11
  happened
• 46:12
  to.
• 46:12
  What
• 46:12
  was
• 46:13
  that?
• 46:13
  Was
• 46:13
  that
• 46:13
  Trader
• 46:14
  Joe's
• 46:14
  here
• 46:14
  in
• 46:15
  Portland
• 46:16
  when
• 46:16
  somebody.
• 47:56
  I
• 47:56
  don't
• 47:56
  know
• 47:57
  if
• 47:57
  you
• 47:57
  saw
• 47:57
  that
• 47:57
  one,
• 47:57
  Titus,
• 47:58
  but
• 47:58
  Trader
• 47:58
  Joe's
• 47:59
  was
• 47:59
  having
• 47:59
  some
• 48:00
  work
• 48:00
  done
• 46:20
  and
• 48:01
  they
• 48:01
  went
• 48:01
  scraping
• 48:02
  away
• 48:02
  and
• 48:02
  sanding
• 48:03
  away
• 48:03
  on
• 48:03
  the.
• 48:03
  On
• 48:04
  the
• 48:04
  tar
• 48:04
  mastic
• 48:04
  while
• 48:05
  the
• 48:05
  store
• 48:05
  was
• 48:05
  open.
• 48:06
  And
• 48:06
  that
• 48:06
  was
• 48:06
  shut
• 48:07
  down,
• 48:07
  I
• 48:07
  think
• 48:07
  for
• 48:07
  three
• 48:08
  weeks
• 48:08
  by
• 48:08
  the
• 48:09
  contractor
• 48:10
  cleaning
• 48:11
  the
• 48:11
  store
• 48:11
  up.
• 48:11
  And
• 48:12
  I'm
• 48:12
  like,
• 48:13
  holy
• 48:14
  smokes.
• 48:14
  That
• 48:14
  had
• 48:14
  to
• 48:15
  been
• 48:15
  an
• 48:15
  expensive
• 48:15
  mistake.
• 48:16
  Yeah,
• 48:17
  imagine
• 48:18
  what
• 48:18
  that
• 48:19
  insurance
• 48:19
  claim
• 48:20
  was
• 48:20
  for
• 48:20
  that
• 48:21
  Contractor,
• 48:21
  because
• 48:22
  that
• 48:23
  was
• 48:23
  ugly.
• 48:23
  But
• 48:24
  that
• 48:25
  was.
• 48:25
  It
• 48:25
  was
• 48:25
  interesting
• 48:26
  news.
• 48:26
  When
• 48:26
  I
• 48:26
  saw
• 48:26
  it,
• 48:26
  I
• 48:26
  was
• 48:27
  just
• 48:27
  like.
• 48:28
  It
• 48:28
  was
• 48:28
  just
• 48:28
  a
• 48:29
  gut
• 48:29
  punch.
• 48:29
  I'm
• 48:29
  like,
• 48:30
  oh,
• 48:30
  someone
• 48:31
  who
• 48:31
  didn't
• 48:32
  know
• 48:32
  what
• 48:32
  they
• 48:32
  were
• 48:33
  supposed
• 48:33
  to
• 48:33
  be
• 48:33
  doing.
• 48:34
  Yeah.
• 48:34
  I
• 48:35
  didn't
• 48:35
  know
• 48:35
  what
• 48:35
  to
• 48:35
  look
• 48:35
  for.
• 48:36
  For
• 48:36
  the
• 48:36
  right
• 48:36
  people
• 48:37
  will
• 48:37
  look
• 48:37
  and
• 48:38
  go,
• 48:38
  that
• 48:38
  that's
• 48:38
  probably
• 48:39
  asbestos.
• 48:39
  You
• 48:39
  should
• 48:40
  get
• 48:40
  it
• 48:40
  tested,
• 48:40
  I
• 48:41
  guess,
• 48:41
  if
• 48:41
  you
• 48:41
  don't
• 48:41
  absolutely
• 48:42
  know.
• 48:42
  Yeah,
• 48:43
  you
• 48:43
  don't
• 48:43
  know
• 48:43
  if
• 48:43
  you
• 48:43
  don't
• 48:44
  know.
• 48:44
  And
• 48:44
  that's
• 48:45
  why
• 48:45
  bringing
• 48:45
  in
• 48:45
  the
• 48:45
  right
• 48:46
  professionals
• 48:46
  to
• 48:47
  look
• 48:47
  at
• 48:47
  the
• 48:47
  job
• 48:47
  can
• 48:48
  really
• 48:48
  be
• 48:50
  key.
• 48:50
  And.
• 48:50
  And,
• 48:51
  Titus,
• 48:51
  what.
• 48:52
  What
• 48:52
  do
• 48:52
  you
• 48:52
  recommend
• 48:53
  for
• 48:53
  people
• 48:53
  out
• 48:53
  there?
• 48:53
  There's
• 48:54
  a
• 48:54
  lot
• 48:54
  of
• 48:54
  people
• 48:54
  out
• 48:54
  buying
• 48:55
  homes
• 48:55
  right
• 48:55
  now,
• 48:55
  and
• 48:56
  they're
• 48:56
  walking
• 48:56
  around
• 48:56
  and
• 48:56
  they
• 48:57
  see
• 48:57
  that,
• 48:58
  boy,
• 48:58
  the
• 48:58
  hardwood
• 48:59
  could
• 48:59
  be
• 48:59
  cool,
• 48:59
  but
• 48:59
  it's
• 49:00
  the
• 49:00
  wrong
• 49:00
  color.
• 49:01
  If
• 49:01
  someone
• 49:01
  is
• 49:01
  going
• 49:01
  to
• 49:02
  reach
• 49:02
  out
• 49:02
  to
• 49:02
  you
• 49:02
  guys
• 49:02
  and
• 49:03
  say,
• 49:04
  when
• 49:04
  do
• 49:04
  you
• 49:05
  like
• 49:05
  to
• 49:05
  do
• 49:05
  that
• 49:05
  in
• 49:05
  the
• 49:05
  process?
• 49:06
  To
• 49:06
  me,
• 49:06
  it
• 49:06
  makes
• 49:07
  sense
• 49:07
  to
• 49:07
  before
• 49:07
  you
• 49:08
  move
• 49:08
  in,
• 49:08
  to
• 49:08
  go
• 49:08
  have
• 49:09
  it
• 49:09
  done.
• 49:09
  So
• 49:10
  that
• 49:10
  way
• 49:10
  you
• 49:10
  can
• 49:10
  have
• 49:10
  it
• 49:11
  cured
• 49:11
  and
• 49:11
  ready
• 49:11
  to
• 49:11
  go
• 49:11
  and
• 49:12
  you
• 49:12
  don't
• 49:12
  have
• 49:12
  to
• 49:12
  be
• 49:12
  moving
• 49:12
  furniture
• 49:13
  around.
• 49:13
  But
• 49:14
  for
• 49:14
  those
• 49:14
  new
• 49:14
  home
• 49:14
  buyers
• 49:15
  out
• 49:15
  there
• 49:15
  looking
• 49:15
  for
• 49:16
  older
• 49:17
  homes
• 49:17
  that
• 49:17
  they
• 49:17
  want
• 49:17
  to
• 49:17
  refurbish,
• 49:18
  when
• 49:18
  do
• 49:18
  you
• 49:18
  recommend
• 49:19
  that
• 49:19
  to
• 49:19
  be
• 49:19
  done?
• 49:20
  As
• 49:20
  far
• 49:20
  as
• 49:20
  the
• 49:21
  wood
• 49:21
  floors
• 49:21
  go.
• 49:22
  Yeah,
• 49:22
  as
• 49:22
  far
• 49:22
  as
• 49:22
  wood
• 49:23
  floors,
• 49:23
  maybe
• 49:23
  it's
• 49:23
  got
• 49:24
  that
• 49:24
  1970s
• 49:25
  white
• 49:26
  oak
• 49:26
  and
• 49:27
  Lake
• 49:27
  Oswego,
• 49:27
  let's
• 49:28
  say.
• 49:28
  Yeah.
• 49:29
  Do
• 49:29
  you
• 49:29
  recommend
• 49:30
  they
• 49:30
  go
• 49:30
  ahead
• 49:30
  and
• 49:30
  just
• 49:30
  do
• 49:30
  that
• 49:30
  right
• 49:31
  off
• 49:31
  the
• 49:31
  bat?
• 49:31
  Oh,
• 49:32
  yeah.
• 49:32
  Yeah.
• 49:32
  I
• 49:33
  mean,
• 49:33
  so
• 49:33
  even
• 49:33
  us
• 49:34
  as
• 49:34
  professionals,
• 49:34
  we
• 49:35
  try
• 49:35
  to
• 49:35
  be
• 49:35
  pretty
• 49:35
  efficient
• 49:36
  about
• 49:36
  it,
• 49:36
  and
• 49:36
  it's
• 49:37
  still
• 49:37
  a
• 49:37
  pretty
• 49:37
  painstaking
• 49:38
  process.
• 49:39
  We've
• 49:39
  got
• 49:39
  HEPA
• 49:40
  filters
• 49:40
  and
• 49:41
  dustless
• 49:41
  sanding
• 49:41
  systems
• 49:42
  in
• 49:42
  place,
• 49:43
  but
• 49:43
  it's
• 49:43
  still
• 49:43
  not
• 49:43
  necessarily
• 49:44
  a
• 49:44
  nice
• 49:44
  place
• 49:45
  to
• 49:45
  be.
• 49:45
  And
• 49:46
  moving
• 49:46
  all
• 49:46
  your
• 49:46
  furniture
• 49:47
  out,
• 49:47
  everything
• 49:48
  you
• 49:48
  have,
• 49:49
  everything
• 49:49
  that's
• 49:49
  on
• 49:49
  the
• 49:49
  wood
• 49:50
  floor,
• 49:50
  it's
• 49:51
  got
• 49:51
  to
• 49:51
  come
• 49:51
  out.
• 49:51
  And
• 49:52
  then
• 49:52
  typically,
• 49:52
  people
• 49:53
  have
• 49:53
  to
• 49:53
  be
• 49:53
  out
• 49:53
  of
• 49:53
  the
• 49:53
  house
• 49:54
  when
• 49:54
  we're
• 49:54
  actually
• 49:54
  doing
• 49:55
  the
• 49:55
  finish
• 49:55
  coats
• 49:56
  on
• 49:56
  the
• 49:56
  worst
• 49:56
  case.
• 49:57
  So
• 49:57
  I
• 49:57
  definitely
• 49:57
  recommend,
• 49:58
  if
• 49:58
  you.
• 49:58
  If
• 49:58
  you're
• 49:58
  purchasing
• 49:59
  a
• 49:59
  new
• 49:59
  home
• 50:00
  and
• 50:00
  you're
• 50:01
  thinking
• 50:01
  about
• 50:01
  doing
• 50:01
  the
• 50:01
  hardwood,
• 50:02
  it's
• 50:02
  much
• 50:02
  better
• 50:02
  to
• 50:03
  bite
• 50:03
  the
• 50:03
  bullet
• 50:03
  and
• 50:03
  do
• 50:04
  it
• 50:04
  now
• 50:04
  before
• 50:04
  you
• 50:04
  move
• 50:05
  in,
• 50:05
  and
• 50:05
  you'll
• 50:06
  be
• 50:06
  done
• 50:07
  so
• 50:08
  well,
• 50:08
  you're.
• 50:08
  Not
• 50:09
  spending
• 50:09
  the
• 50:09
  week
• 50:09
  out
• 50:09
  at
• 50:10
  the
• 50:10
  coast
• 50:10
  or
• 50:10
  doing
• 50:11
  something,
• 50:11
  going
• 50:11
  on
• 50:12
  vacation
• 50:12
  while
• 50:12
  it's
• 50:13
  done,
• 50:13
  because
• 50:13
  you
• 50:14
  can't
• 50:14
  really
• 50:14
  be
• 50:14
  hanging
• 50:15
  around
• 50:15
  there.
• 50:16
  Yeah,
• 50:16
  yeah.
• 50:16
  People
• 50:17
  can
• 50:17
  be
• 50:17
  around,
• 50:18
  at
• 50:18
  least
• 50:18
  for
• 50:18
  the
• 50:18
  sanding
• 50:19
  portion.
• 50:19
  We've
• 50:20
  got
• 50:20
  the
• 50:20
  dustless
• 50:21
  part
• 50:21
  down
• 50:21
  to
• 50:21
  a
• 50:22
  science.
• 50:22
  The
• 50:22
  guys
• 50:23
  aren't
• 50:23
  wearing
• 50:23
  masks
• 50:23
  when
• 50:23
  they're
• 50:24
  sanding
• 50:24
  the
• 50:24
  floor
• 50:24
  anymore.
• 50:25
  But
• 50:25
  when
• 50:25
  it
• 50:25
  comes
• 50:25
  to
• 50:25
  these
• 50:25
  finish
• 50:26
  coats,
• 50:26
  I
• 50:27
  would
• 50:27
  say
• 50:27
  the
• 50:27
  majority
• 50:27
  of
• 50:28
  the
• 50:28
  finish
• 50:28
  that
• 50:28
  we
• 50:28
  put
• 50:28
  down
• 50:28
  is
• 50:29
  that
• 50:29
  Swedish
• 50:29
  finish
• 50:29
  that
• 50:30
  Kelly
• 50:30
  mentioned
• 50:30
  earlier.
• 50:31
  It's
• 50:31
  some
• 50:32
  pretty
• 50:32
  stinky
• 50:33
  stuff.
• 50:33
  The
• 50:33
  stuff,
• 50:34
  the
• 50:34
  fumes
• 50:34
  in
• 50:34
  the
• 50:35
  air
• 50:35
  are
• 50:35
  pretty
• 50:35
  substantial.
• 50:36
  We're
• 50:36
  wearing
• 50:36
  full
• 50:37
  face
• 50:37
  respirators.
• 50:38
  Our
• 50:38
  noses
• 50:39
  are
• 50:39
  burning,
• 50:39
  our
• 50:40
  eyes
• 50:40
  are
• 50:40
  burning.
• 50:41
  It's
• 50:41
  nasty
• 50:41
  stuff,
• 50:42
  but
• 50:42
  it
• 50:42
  cures
• 50:43
  pretty
• 50:43
  quickly.
• 50:43
  So
• 50:43
  usually
• 50:44
  people
• 50:44
  got
• 50:44
  to
• 50:44
  be
• 50:44
  out
• 50:44
  of
• 50:45
  the
• 50:45
  house
• 50:45
  for
• 50:45
  two
• 50:45
  nights
• 50:46
  is
• 50:46
  what
• 50:46
  we
• 50:46
  tell
• 50:46
  them.
• 50:47
  And
• 50:47
  usually
• 50:47
  they'll
• 50:48
  go
• 50:48
  off
• 50:48
  to
• 50:48
  the
• 50:48
  coast
• 50:48
  or
• 50:49
  wherever
• 50:49
  that
• 50:49
  is
• 50:49
  for
• 50:49
  those
• 50:50
  two
• 50:50
  days.
• 50:50
  And
• 50:50
  they
• 50:50
  can
• 50:51
  usually
• 50:51
  be
• 50:51
  back
• 50:51
  in
• 50:51
  the
• 50:51
  house
• 50:52
  as
• 50:52
  soon
• 50:52
  as
• 50:52
  that,
• 50:52
  that
• 50:53
  next
• 50:53
  day
• 50:53
  after
• 50:53
  we
• 50:53
  put
• 50:54
  that
• 50:54
  final
• 50:54
  coat
• 50:54
  down.
• 50:55
  Because
• 50:55
  it's.
• 50:55
  Because
• 50:56
  it's
• 50:56
  a
• 50:56
  conversion
• 50:57
  varnish,
• 50:57
  kind
• 50:57
  of
• 50:57
  like
• 50:57
  an
• 50:58
  epoxy,
• 50:58
  it
• 50:58
  cures
• 50:59
  very,
• 50:59
  very,
• 50:59
  very
• 51:00
  quickly.
• 51:00
  And
• 51:01
  so
• 51:02
  if
• 51:02
  you
• 51:03
  can
• 51:03
  avoid
• 51:03
  doing
• 51:03
  it
• 51:04
  while
• 51:04
  living
• 51:04
  there
• 51:05
  or
• 51:05
  you
• 51:05
  have
• 51:05
  the
• 51:05
  opportunity
• 51:06
  to
• 51:06
  do
• 51:06
  it
• 51:07
  before
• 51:07
  you
• 51:07
  move
• 51:07
  in,
• 51:07
  that's
• 51:08
  the
• 51:08
  time
• 51:08
  to
• 51:08
  do
• 51:08
  it
• 51:09
  for
• 51:09
  sure.
• 51:10
  Amen.
• 51:11
  All
• 51:11
  right,
• 51:11
  guys,
• 51:12
  we're
• 51:12
  running
• 51:12
  out
• 51:12
  of
• 51:12
  time.
• 51:12
  It
• 51:13
  goes
• 51:13
  so
• 51:13
  quick.
• 51:14
  What
• 51:15
  is
• 51:15
  the
• 51:15
  best
• 51:15
  way
• 51:16
  if
• 51:16
  someone's
• 51:16
  out
• 51:16
  there
• 51:17
  going,
• 51:17
  man,
• 51:18
  I'm
• 51:18
  in
• 51:18
  the
• 51:18
  Portland
• 51:18
  area
• 51:19
  and
• 51:20
  holy
• 51:20
  smokes,
• 51:21
  I
• 51:21
  gotta
• 51:21
  get
• 51:21
  Treadline
• 51:22
  out
• 51:22
  to
• 51:22
  my
• 51:22
  house.
• 51:23
  How
• 51:23
  do
• 51:23
  they
• 51:23
  find
• 51:23
  you
• 51:24
  guys?
• 51:25
  The
• 51:25
  best
• 51:25
  place
• 51:25
  to
• 51:25
  find
• 51:26
  us
• 51:26
  is
• 51:26
  probably
• 51:26
  on
• 51:27
  Google.
• 51:27
  If
• 51:27
  you
• 51:27
  Google
• 51:28
  Treadline,
• 51:28
  hardwood
• 51:29
  comes
• 51:29
  right
• 51:29
  up.
• 51:29
  We
• 51:30
  actually
• 51:30
  got
• 51:30
  a
• 51:30
  just
• 51:31
  finished
• 51:31
  building
• 51:31
  our
• 51:31
  new
• 51:32
  website.
• 51:32
  So
• 51:32
  there's
• 51:32
  tons
• 51:33
  of
• 51:33
  good
• 51:33
  information,
• 51:34
  educational
• 51:34
  information
• 51:35
  on
• 51:35
  there
• 51:36
  about
• 51:36
  what
• 51:36
  things
• 51:37
  to
• 51:37
  expect,
• 51:37
  what
• 51:37
  to
• 51:38
  look
• 51:38
  for,
• 51:38
  just
• 51:39
  good
• 51:39
  resource.
• 51:40
  Or
• 51:40
  you
• 51:40
  can
• 51:40
  reach
• 51:40
  out
• 51:41
  to
• 51:41
  us
• 51:41
  at
• 51:41
  503-85-530
• 51:44
  and
• 51:44
  get
• 51:44
  a
• 51:44
  hold
• 51:44
  of
• 51:45
  the
• 51:45
  office
• 51:45
  and
• 51:45
  likely
• 51:46
  you'll
• 51:46
  talk
• 51:46
  to
• 51:46
  me.
• 51:47
  Nice
• 51:47
  guys,
• 51:48
  thanks
• 51:48
  for
• 51:48
  taking
• 51:48
  the
• 51:49
  time
• 51:49
  today.
• 51:49
  And
• 51:50
  you
• 51:50
  guys
• 51:51
  out
• 51:51
  there
• 51:51
  in
• 51:51
  the
• 51:51
  Portland
• 51:51
  area
• 51:52
  and
• 51:52
  nationally
• 51:53
  across,
• 51:54
  there's
• 51:54
  always
• 51:54
  going
• 51:55
  to
• 51:55
  be
• 51:55
  somebody
• 51:55
  good
• 51:56
  in
• 51:56
  your
• 51:56
  area,
• 51:57
  whether
• 51:57
  you're
• 51:57
  down
• 51:57
  in
• 51:57
  Florida
• 51:58
  or
• 51:58
  New
• 51:58
  York
• 51:58
  or
• 51:59
  any
• 51:59
  one
• 51:59
  of
• 52:00
  our
• 52:00
  places
• 52:00
  out
• 52:01
  there.
• 52:01
  Find
• 52:02
  your
• 52:02
  local
• 52:02
  experts
• 52:03
  in
• 52:04
  Portland.
• 52:04
  These
• 52:05
  are
• 52:05
  mine,
• 52:06
  but
• 52:06
  you're
• 52:06
  going
• 52:06
  to
• 52:07
  have
• 52:07
  some
• 52:07
  around
• 52:07
  there
• 52:07
  that,
• 52:08
  that
• 52:08
  really
• 52:08
  know
• 52:08
  what
• 52:08
  they're
• 52:09
  doing,
• 52:09
  what
• 52:09
  works
• 52:10
  great
• 52:10
  for
• 52:10
  your
• 52:10
  climate.
• 52:11
  So
• 52:11
  search
• 52:12
  out
• 52:12
  those
• 52:12
  people
• 52:12
  out
• 52:13
  there
• 52:13
  if
• 52:13
  you're
• 52:13
  looking
• 52:13
  to
• 52:13
  get
• 52:13
  your
• 52:14
  floors
• 52:14
  done.
• 52:15
  But
• 52:15
  trust
• 52:15
  me,
• 52:15
  redline,
• 52:16
  you
• 52:16
  guys
• 52:17
  always
• 52:17
  do
• 52:18
  beautiful
• 52:18
  work
• 52:18
  out
• 52:19
  there
• 52:19
  and
• 52:19
  appreciate
• 52:20
  you
• 52:20
  guys
• 52:20
  taking
• 52:20
  the
• 52:20
  time
• 52:21
  today.
• 52:21
  Yeah,
• 52:22
  thank
• 52:22
  you.
• 52:22
  Thanks
• 52:22
  for
• 52:23
  having
• 52:23
  us.
• 52:24
  All
• 52:24
  right,
• 52:24
  guys,
• 52:25
  I'm
• 52:25
  Eric
• 52:25
  G.
• 52:26
  You've
• 52:26
  been
• 52:26
  listening
• 52:27
  to
• 52:27
  around
• 52:28
  the
• 52:28
  House.
• 52:34
  And
• 52:34
  see
• 52:35
  skin,
• 52:35
  beauty,
• 52:36
  risk
• 52:36
  acting
• 52:37
  your
• 52:37
  eggs.
• 52:37
  Don't
• 52:38
  make
• 52:38
  the
• 52:38
  good
• 52:38
  story.
• 52:39
  Knock
• 52:40
  one
• 52:40
  back.
• 52:40
  No
• 52:41
  buzz,
• 52:41
  no.