Latest / Relatables / EP 17 - SPICY VANILLA LATTE
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Coming up on relatables.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Hard work meats talent where talent doesn't work hard.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Relatable body. Do you put your ketchup, barbecue sauce those condiments?
- 0:22Speaker 1: Are you a fridge guy or a cupboard guy? Fridge?
- 0:26Speaker 1: I've grown up a fridge guy, but no, I'm stayed
- 0:29Speaker 1: a fridge guy. Oh. I remember the first time I
- 0:33Speaker 1: ever saw someone like, go, no, no, no, it goes
- 0:35Speaker 1: in the cupboard. I was like, what do you mean.
- 0:39Speaker 3: I feel like, as soon as you open it, though,
- 0:42Speaker 3: it becomes a fridge condiments, as.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Soon as the air touches it. Yeah, exactly. I feel
- 0:47Speaker 1: like people that don't put it in the fridge are
- 0:49Speaker 1: drinking off or not drinking using off. What are you doing?
- 0:54Speaker 1: I like ketchup? I probably drink it you.
- 0:56Speaker 3: Actually, to be fair, the person who likes barbecue barbecues
- 1:00Speaker 3: most in this world that I know.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Really, I used to like barbecue sauce more than ketch up.
- 1:04Speaker 1: When we lived together.
- 1:05Speaker 3: Used to fucking have bubbecue sauce on everything. I swear
- 1:07Speaker 3: you had it on toast. Yeah, I would put it
- 1:09Speaker 3: on toast with eggs. Yeah, crazy, but I be so.
- 1:13Speaker 1: I grew up the first time I ever had catch up,
- 1:16Speaker 1: or at least the first time I read catch up,
- 1:19Speaker 1: catch up, catch up e t cup? Catch up? What
- 1:29Speaker 1: catch up? Someone's missing there? What are you talking about?
- 1:33Speaker 1: You've got something going on like a hat. You're saying
- 1:38Speaker 1: catch up us in like, let's catch up and hang out?
- 1:41Speaker 1: It's catch up, catch up. It's catch up, catch up?
- 1:45Speaker 1: Canny who catch up? Not catch up? Is what you do?
- 1:51Speaker 1: You add some weird little like ketchup catch up. I
- 1:54Speaker 1: had it right the first time, not an a you
- 1:57Speaker 1: do this all the time anyway. The first time I
- 2:00Speaker 1: had it was because I had maybe a piece of
- 2:02Speaker 1: steak or chicken or something that was too hot to eat,
- 2:04Speaker 1: and I remember my grandpa saying, put some ketchup on it,
- 2:08Speaker 1: it'll cool it down. So, up until I was like
- 2:11Speaker 1: probably twelve, I genuinely thought that ketchup was used to
- 2:15Speaker 1: cool food down.
- 2:16Speaker 3: Interesting, that's funny that my mum gas lit b too,
- 2:19Speaker 3: in a sense of I suppose that wasn't really gas lighting,
- 2:22Speaker 3: but it was. My mom always said tomato sauce was
- 2:25Speaker 3: more healthy than ketchup because it's but the same thing.
- 2:29Speaker 1: I don't know why.
- 2:30Speaker 3: And then we always had tomato sauce and tomato sauce
- 2:33Speaker 3: is Australian, Ketchup is American.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Yeah, but ketch up hands down.
- 2:37Speaker 3: That's on the equivalent part of Pepsi Max and Ketchup
- 2:40Speaker 3: over tomato sauce and coke Heira.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Yeah, valid algorithm.
- 2:43Speaker 3: And then anyone who likes tomato sauce and coke Heyerra
- 2:45Speaker 3: or diet coke more not friends of the podcast. The
- 2:50Speaker 3: Relatables podcast is hosted by myself, Ottie Clark Akammy and
- 2:54Speaker 3: my partner in crime, mister.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Jake Craig aka Daddy. That's me. It is you. You
- 3:00Speaker 1: guys are the baddies. If you're knew here, because you're
- 3:03Speaker 1: all bad. That's it.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Men and women are like, yeah, all the men that
- 3:07Speaker 3: are listening, all seven of you.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Are also baddies, all baddies, And I like that. You
- 3:11Speaker 1: own it. Yeah, Oh I need to put your headphones on.
- 3:15Speaker 1: I can do that for you, my friend. Thank you
- 3:17Speaker 1: very much. So last week we introduced a new segment
- 3:23Speaker 1: called the Vanilla Boys. I had fun. I had fun
- 3:26Speaker 1: as well, and so this week I will be running
- 3:29Speaker 1: the Vanilla Boys segment. So that means I have made
- 3:32Speaker 1: my own jingle.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Arguably comment below, I would say you're less vanilla. I
- 3:37Speaker 3: would say, I'm les vanilla than you, or like to
- 3:41Speaker 3: talk like your less vanilla.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Let's interview Bethante. What's he fucking like? Eh? Okay, let's
- 3:51Speaker 1: let's get into this jingle. This is I think I
- 3:54Speaker 1: might know where the headphones. No, no, I'm here.
- 4:01Speaker 4: Jake Ganotti, plane and proud Vanilla Boys say la noise
- 4:06Speaker 4: sprinkles needed just the basics?
- 4:08Speaker 1: Would do with later? Was podcast coming through the boys?
- 4:13Speaker 4: Vanilla boy keeping the plane making some noise, Jake Garotti,
- 4:18Speaker 4: that's the brand.
- 4:19Speaker 1: The most vanilla boys in the land. Ohait, the most
- 4:25Speaker 1: vanilla boys in the land. I like that. Oh I
- 4:29Speaker 1: like that a lot. Thanks Claude Claud, Thank your best friend.
- 4:35Speaker 1: So last week we did sexual positions. Yeah, body tested
- 4:40Speaker 1: me of like what are they? Yeah? I don't think
- 4:43Speaker 1: I knew any, to be honest with you. But this
- 4:45Speaker 1: week I found an article. All right, and the article
- 4:52Speaker 1: is kinky sex ideas you're going to want to try tonight.
- 4:56Speaker 3: So I wanted to name a few and see if
- 4:59Speaker 3: you would try them tonight or whenever you're ready. This
- 5:04Speaker 3: guy's around too much a cockplo.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Okay, numero uno take it to a mirror. Okay, So
- 5:15Speaker 1: the next time you're heating up whisper in your partner's ear,
- 5:19Speaker 1: just how sexy they look, and suggest that you get
- 5:23Speaker 1: an even better view. Lean lead them to a mirror
- 5:27Speaker 1: and lean yourself in front of it, allowing them to
- 5:30Speaker 1: enter you from behind and or reach around to stimulate
- 5:35Speaker 1: you from the front. So do it in front of
- 5:38Speaker 1: a mirror and make them watch. But I do.
- 5:45Speaker 3: I like it, and I don't like it because there's
- 5:47Speaker 3: certain angles of myself that you shouldn't see, like you
- 5:51Speaker 3: don't want to see my bed bum. Also, though my
- 5:56Speaker 3: old bedroom done it. So you've done it on purpose,
- 6:00Speaker 3: though not like directionally saying, so.
- 6:03Speaker 1: You haven't been like you're so fucking sexy, look at you.
- 6:06Speaker 1: I think.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Actually it happened in the opposite way I was looking.
- 6:08Speaker 3: She's like, are you look in the mirror.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Because you got a mirror one of those wardrobes with
- 6:15Speaker 1: slide indoors as a wind mirror on it. But I
- 6:17Speaker 1: can admit it was good. It was good because it's like, yeah,
- 6:23Speaker 1: I am the porn row broke, I am the porn Yeah,
- 6:28Speaker 1: I would do that, I think. Okay, okay, so, but
- 6:32Speaker 1: would you do it in a way where So let's
- 6:34Speaker 1: say you've started a little bit of four play things
- 6:37Speaker 1: heating up. You're kissing and rubbing and a bit of
- 6:39Speaker 1: dry humping, and then you're like, you're so sexy right now,
- 6:43Speaker 1: you need to get a better look, and then you
- 6:45Speaker 1: just leader to a mirror and then just that's and
- 6:49Speaker 1: you just continue from there. I'm just picture I don't
- 6:51Speaker 1: have a mirror at my new house.
- 6:53Speaker 3: Imagine like I'm button naked and like, go pick up
- 6:55Speaker 3: a mirror from the living room. I would say I
- 6:59Speaker 3: would do it, but like I might give that rating
- 7:00Speaker 3: and like that that's pretty good six, but it's pretty sexy.
- 7:06Speaker 1: I actually don't know if I could, like, I'm not
- 7:10Speaker 1: like I find if I'm ever like getting risky with
- 7:14Speaker 1: maybe saying something that is like the only time you
- 7:17Speaker 1: could say it is when you're in a sexy mood
- 7:19Speaker 1: taking yourself seriously. Is because I'll say it like without
- 7:24Speaker 1: directly looking in the eyes, And if I was doing
- 7:29Speaker 1: it in a mirror, I would almost like to be
- 7:31Speaker 1: looking at myself saying something I feel like.
- 7:37Speaker 3: Depends on the position, yeah, because like is she gonna
- 7:40Speaker 3: look at me or is she gonna look at herself?
- 7:42Speaker 3: Because you're saying she's beautiful.
- 7:43Speaker 1: You guys, see the whole what one what the two
- 7:46Speaker 1: suggestions there were Place her in front of a mirror
- 7:50Speaker 1: and then you and then you either enter her from
- 7:52Speaker 1: behind like you have sex in front of the mirror,
- 7:56Speaker 1: or you just like reach around and start kind of
- 7:59Speaker 1: like it is sor rated but it's hilarious, and do
- 8:04Speaker 1: it that way where it's like she's just kind of
- 8:06Speaker 1: watching you pleasure her. That might be a question, maybe
- 8:10Speaker 1: more for a woman.
- 8:11Speaker 3: I think that is more of a question for a woman,
- 8:12Speaker 3: because like, but would you do it if like if
- 8:14Speaker 3: she if she said it to me, yes, I would
- 8:16Speaker 3: do it.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Okay, I like it. I like it. Next one, get icy.
- 8:23Speaker 1: I'm gonna straight up say no, we're not talking about
- 8:27Speaker 1: the old cliche blow job tip of popping an ice
- 8:30Speaker 1: cube in your mouth before going down on your partner. Though,
- 8:33Speaker 1: if that does it for you, by all means, go
- 8:35Speaker 1: for it. Ice cubes are the cheapest sex toy around
- 8:39Speaker 1: because it allows you to experiment with hot and cold
- 8:42Speaker 1: sensations that can make for an exciting sensory session. You
- 8:47Speaker 1: can trail an ice cube over your partner's body when
- 8:49Speaker 1: things get steamy and for a chillingly good sensation.
- 8:52Speaker 3: So I feel like this is where we've gone wrong
- 8:54Speaker 3: a little bit in a sense of like where the
- 8:56Speaker 3: Vanilla boys. I need like different missionary positions.
- 9:05Speaker 1: I want the fux that. Oh my god, let me
- 9:09Speaker 1: I've never I've heard about this, but I've never done it.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Like in my head, I'm just a classic.
- 9:13Speaker 3: We're both fucking classic boys, Like, yeah, I'd love to
- 9:15Speaker 3: do it, but when it comes down to it, I'm
- 9:16Speaker 3: fucking vanilla. I'm not going I'm thinking. I'm thinking I'm
- 9:19Speaker 3: kissing her. This is hectic. I'm not thinking. Could I
- 9:21Speaker 3: get an ascue right now? Are you?
- 9:23Speaker 1: No?
- 9:24Speaker 3: I'm just too distracted. I'd have to pre plan that shit.
- 9:26Speaker 3: And that's not how sex works for us anyway. Some
- 9:30Speaker 3: people like to plant it, some.
- 9:31Speaker 1: People liked to plan it. It could work. I could try
- 9:33Speaker 1: and plan it, but I've never done it. But I
- 9:38Speaker 1: do remember when I was a kid, like people saying apparently,
- 9:41Speaker 1: if either the kid if like sorry, when I kid,
- 9:46Speaker 1: I mean like eighteen, yeah, when I was eighteen, Yeah,
- 9:49Speaker 1: pick up. I remember when I was about eighteen, people
- 9:52Speaker 1: saying like either if like I was to put ice
- 9:56Speaker 1: in my mouth before going down on a woman, or
- 9:58Speaker 1: if she was to put us in her mouth vaguely
- 10:00Speaker 1: if she has a cold like she's given your head
- 10:02Speaker 1: or I have a cold mouth while I'm giving kind
- 10:04Speaker 1: of lingus. Yeah, I can't say. Apparently it feels good.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Never tried it, but ye, apparently is it.
- 10:10Speaker 3: The equivalent of like, you know, when you've been outside
- 10:12Speaker 3: and you have cold hands and your partners inside and
- 10:14Speaker 3: she's been under a blanket or something and you put
- 10:15Speaker 3: your cold hands on her and then she's like, is
- 10:17Speaker 3: it the same as that?
- 10:19Speaker 1: No? I don't think so, because that's next one, send
- 10:23Speaker 1: a racy text. We've spoken about this a bit before,
- 10:26Speaker 1: so be as brave as your vocabulary permits. You can
- 10:31Speaker 1: send a simple suggestive message like I can't wait to
- 10:34Speaker 1: touch you tonight, or something more bold, such as a
- 10:38Speaker 1: step by step guide to what you'll do to them
- 10:41Speaker 1: the second they walk through the door. Like that's kind
- 10:48Speaker 1: of like Also, I would say that is sexting territory.
- 10:52Speaker 1: I'm too vanilla. I can't do. I don't know, I
- 10:54Speaker 1: reckon I could you know? What would suck in? What
- 10:56Speaker 1: would go through my head is if I'm at home
- 10:58Speaker 1: and my girlfriend's out and I start sending her these
- 11:01Speaker 1: messages of like like I can't stop thinking about you,
- 11:05Speaker 1: Like as soon as you walk through the door, I'm
- 11:06Speaker 1: going to do this, this and this, and so she's
- 11:08Speaker 1: kind of replying, maybe also being a bit sexy, but
- 11:10Speaker 1: I'm serious and she thinks I'm joking. So she's joking.
- 11:13Speaker 1: So she walks through the door and I go to
- 11:15Speaker 1: do those things and she's like what the fuck. Yeah,
- 11:16Speaker 1: i'd be like what I said, I was going to
- 11:18Speaker 1: do it. I'm okay the same in a sense of like,
- 11:21Speaker 1: I feel like this would be very relatable.
- 11:24Speaker 3: I think she would want me to initiate it, but
- 11:26Speaker 3: I need to know she's in the mood and it's
- 11:29Speaker 3: more likely she's going to initiate it, and I'll reciproctate.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Is what I would do, right. I would start the
- 11:33Speaker 1: text chain on I message right, and then I would
- 11:36Speaker 1: get it going. And if she's she's reciprocating, just to
- 11:39Speaker 1: find out for sure if she's care go over to
- 11:42Speaker 1: Instagram and be like, hey, normal, JK, just double checking
- 11:45Speaker 1: act she want me to do those things? Right? You
- 11:47Speaker 1: just want me to double check and you want me
- 11:48Speaker 1: to do those things later because I will or I
- 11:50Speaker 1: won't exactly what I need to do. Actually, oh man, okay,
- 12:01Speaker 1: next one, tie them up? Nah, I don't really need to,
- 12:06Speaker 1: Like I can't do that. Yeah I have, I don't
- 12:09Speaker 1: think I want to. I don't like that. Is it
- 12:11Speaker 1: sub dumb stuff? It's called like bondage. I think it's
- 12:13Speaker 1: sort of more subdumb stuff. You're getting into BDSM territory.
- 12:17Speaker 1: I like feeling like together, not someone's dominating the other. Yeah. Right,
- 12:22Speaker 1: that's funny.
- 12:22Speaker 3: See, I'm trying to think, like I've never really like
- 12:27Speaker 3: I would say, there's moments where you can get what
- 12:32Speaker 3: we would say is like quote unquote like wow, that
- 12:35Speaker 3: was a rough session, but like it's not for some people,
- 12:38Speaker 3: but for.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Us it is. And like the thought of being in
- 12:41Speaker 1: that mood of then like having maybe a belt just
- 12:45Speaker 1: like wrapped around her wrists and kind of like hold
- 12:48Speaker 1: on to it. I don't know if that would make
- 12:50Speaker 1: me feel more horny or not, I would think to me, not, no, okay, fat,
- 12:56Speaker 1: I'm asking reckon.
- 12:57Speaker 3: It comes from like two Like it's good to normalize.
- 12:59Speaker 3: I just feel like it's so taboo to talk about sex.
- 13:01Speaker 3: Obviously with your partner, it's such an intimate thing, but
- 13:04Speaker 3: to have the conversations around it is very healthy. Do
- 13:07Speaker 3: you reckon like these sort of kinks come from what
- 13:10Speaker 3: porn you watch?
- 13:11Speaker 1: It's a great question. I have no idea because like
- 13:13Speaker 1: where does it come or is it just in your
- 13:14Speaker 1: plot or do you just I have no idea, Like
- 13:17Speaker 1: I think apparently h pain sometimes pain, Like although it hurts,
- 13:24Speaker 1: it's also like for some reason, some people really like
- 13:28Speaker 1: it and.
- 13:28Speaker 3: We're only twenty six, Like we don't even having sex
- 13:30Speaker 3: for what, like what's that eight year or something?
- 13:34Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 13:34Speaker 3: Quick, mass, No, sixteen, just twenty six, not ten six seven, eight, No,
- 13:41Speaker 3: it's eight? Is it eighteen plus four? Oh no, it
- 13:46Speaker 3: is fucking ten?
- 13:48Speaker 1: Shit, damn baddies, haven't damn it, damn it, damn it.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Hit me with it.
- 13:53Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, before we move on, come on,
- 13:57Speaker 3: what you know what you're saying it?
- 13:59Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to do I'm come on, I'm not
- 14:01Speaker 1: saying you. We aren't moving on until you tell me
- 14:05Speaker 1: what they come on, you ugly at we wanted unspoken.
- 14:13Speaker 1: You were right. You have the biggest brain in the world.
- 14:17Speaker 1: And I am insferior to you. In sferior definitely, because
- 14:21Speaker 1: you can't even say inferior what's inia nothing, It doesn't exist.
- 14:26Speaker 3: Thinking myself a big hole day, right, use a blind form. Yeah,
- 14:31Speaker 3: that'd be fun. I think I think a lot of
- 14:33Speaker 3: these things. I wish I was a drinker. But also
- 14:35Speaker 3: if you guys are both a little bit drunk, do
- 14:37Speaker 3: you think like that would be when Yeah, because.
- 14:39Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in like a giggly like, oh,
- 14:40Speaker 1: let's try some things. But then when I'm sober, I'm
- 14:42Speaker 1: by audio. Maybe I'm boring when I'm sober. Yeah you are. Yeah,
- 14:46Speaker 1: you don't know me in the bedroom. You wish you
- 14:47Speaker 1: did know you when you're drunk and when you're sober,
- 14:49Speaker 1: and you're definitely final when you're okay, this one's this
- 14:54Speaker 1: one's for you. Okay. Nibble and bite so the littling
- 14:58Speaker 1: inviting during sex can your sign of passion. It's a
- 15:01Speaker 1: little naughty and and a lot hot. So it does
- 15:04Speaker 1: say a little bit of nibbling on the lips, right,
- 15:06Speaker 1: But it.
- 15:06Speaker 3: Also says like you can kind of like drag your
- 15:09Speaker 3: teeth down her shoulder or like across her, like you
- 15:12Speaker 3: can bite a nipple or even like you get some
- 15:13Speaker 3: get some teeth involved on the nip. Yeah, I won't
- 15:15Speaker 3: get too personal, but like I would try that. Ye,
- 15:19Speaker 3: try ultra relaxing foreplay. So that's a fully butt naked massage.
- 15:26Speaker 1: That's what explains it.
- 15:27Speaker 3: Actually, Yeah, I reckon, there's a time and a place
- 15:29Speaker 3: for like no sex like imagine, Oh.
- 15:32Speaker 1: You mean just like do a very very heated, just
- 15:37Speaker 1: ultra relaxing thing like a massage, or you are fully
- 15:39Speaker 1: naked with a whale and like you're both mad horny
- 15:42Speaker 1: and then don't have sex. Yeah.
- 15:43Speaker 3: I've said to like my partner before too, Like me,
- 15:45Speaker 3: kissing you and getting intimate doesn't always mean like we
- 15:47Speaker 3: have to have sex, like I'd sometimes just love to
- 15:49Speaker 3: kiss you intimately.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Then a little fella downstairs started ugly out of that foreskin.
- 15:59Speaker 1: I know you have the way you said that's great.
- 16:05Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been told I have looking penis bye who
- 16:12Speaker 3: who my mom?
- 16:17Speaker 1: Imagine this one? This one I just don't know if
- 16:23Speaker 1: I could do, but I can see it being sort
- 16:25Speaker 1: of hot. Let your partner watch you masturbate. I can't
- 16:29Speaker 1: do it, not seriously, but like I feel like that's
- 16:32Speaker 1: got to be am I in the wrong.
- 16:33Speaker 3: I'm thinking a girl masturbating is really sexy, but that's
- 16:36Speaker 3: obviously because I like women.
- 16:37Speaker 1: But a man masturbating is disgusting, Like I know, like
- 16:40Speaker 1: imagine being a fly on the wall and then it's
- 16:43Speaker 1: like the fly looks at your girlfriend is on the
- 16:45Speaker 1: bed masturbating and like thinks, yeah, dann, these guys are
- 16:47Speaker 1: beouting and then you're standing off the bed just going
- 16:49Speaker 1: like this like a loser, cucking me up and ship. Okay,
- 16:57Speaker 1: let's do last one. Okay, I'm ready watch porn together? Yeah?
- 17:02Speaker 1: Or what kind of porn though? Or whatever whatever whatever.
- 17:04Speaker 3: That's actually a good debate actually, because I what porn
- 17:07Speaker 3: do women watch?
- 17:10Speaker 1: I don't know, m because I think porn.
- 17:13Speaker 3: Is viewed very differently by men and women. Yeah, probably,
- 17:17Speaker 3: and i'd have to.
- 17:17Speaker 1: I also know that we watch vanilla porn.
- 17:20Speaker 3: We ever do watch it because I think I don't
- 17:21Speaker 3: want to speak for my girlfriend. I think she wouldn't
- 17:23Speaker 3: want to do that, and I can understand that. One
- 17:26Speaker 3: time Beth and I were in bed and then she goes,
- 17:30Speaker 3: should we watch porn together? And I was like, oh,
- 17:33Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to. I wasn't keen on it.
- 17:36Speaker 3: I was kind of like, like, what video do you click?
- 17:38Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, yeah.
- 17:39Speaker 1: I was like, oh, if you want to, I was
- 17:41Speaker 1: like okay, kind of just being like, if this is
- 17:44Speaker 1: what she wants, I'll do it. Yeah, And then she
- 17:45Speaker 1: was like, nah, I'm just joking. And I was like,
- 17:47Speaker 1: oh my.
- 17:47Speaker 5: God, Addie, I have an announcement to make.
- 17:58Speaker 1: What is it? I am officially pause for silence, dramatic effect.
- 18:06Speaker 1: A Marcher, Babe.
- 18:07Speaker 3: Man, I am so glad you said that, because I
- 18:11Speaker 3: am too.
- 18:13Speaker 1: I absolutely love Marcher. It's like a reward. Couldn't agree more,
- 18:17Speaker 1: my friend could not agree more. Throughout the day, I
- 18:21Speaker 1: do little tasks and I'm like, you know what, I
- 18:24Speaker 1: deserve a marcher?
- 18:26Speaker 3: Same and I go to at the moment, Jake, are
- 18:28Speaker 3: these perfect head vanilla march latte cans?
- 18:32Speaker 5: Cans?
- 18:33Speaker 3: Not only do they taste amazing, but it's also a
- 18:36Speaker 3: different source of caffeine to coffee.
- 18:38Speaker 1: Mate, that's true, and they're so handy, like it's just
- 18:42Speaker 1: a cafe quality Marcher in a can in your head, mate.
- 18:47Speaker 3: I am obsessed, And I know the badies listening are
- 18:50Speaker 3: gonna be looking for a sign to get a Marcher today.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Here it is, so hey, you've heard it here. First,
- 18:58Speaker 1: don't walk, but run to Cole's Oddie. I have a
- 19:01Speaker 1: pretty tricky dilemma. I think tricky. We've been nailing these.
- 19:06Speaker 1: I think I have a pretty tricky dilemma. But it
- 19:08Speaker 1: would be keen to get your thoughts. And I guess
- 19:12Speaker 1: also we've never really asked, like badd his thoughts in
- 19:14Speaker 1: the comments. Yeah, let us know. It's good to get
- 19:16Speaker 1: more than two pieces of advice. I guess. My boyfriend
- 19:21Speaker 1: of one year and I'm always discussed that having active
- 19:24Speaker 1: contact with past sexual partners slash x's is inappropriate. I
- 19:30Speaker 1: have recently found out that he had a one night
- 19:33Speaker 1: stand with one of his now friends seven to eight
- 19:36Speaker 1: years ago. To him, this is purely a friendship, as
- 19:39Speaker 1: it happened once and they continued to be friends. To me,
- 19:43Speaker 1: it is a sexual partner. I have asked him to
- 19:46Speaker 1: cease contact, but he says he is not comfortable with it.
- 19:50Speaker 1: He told me I can read all the messages anytime,
- 19:53Speaker 1: as they are not sexual. She lives in a different city,
- 19:57Speaker 1: so they do not see each other face to face,
- 19:59Speaker 1: and their contact is not very frequent, usually monthly or so.
- 20:03Speaker 1: I cannot help but feel not chosen, especially since we
- 20:07Speaker 1: recently went through a rough rough patch and still trying
- 20:11Speaker 1: to recover the relationship. AM I making this into a
- 20:14Speaker 1: bigger deal than it is or your partner. Your or
- 20:18Speaker 1: your partner should choose your comfort, even if it involves
- 20:21Speaker 1: some interference with their personal life. Thanks a ton, love
- 20:25Speaker 1: you both.
- 20:27Speaker 3: I think your partner is making it a bigger problem
- 20:30Speaker 3: than it has to be.
- 20:30Speaker 1: She lives out of town.
- 20:32Speaker 3: You have voiced that you feel uncomfortable, and he says, no,
- 20:35Speaker 3: I want to keep the relationship.
- 20:37Speaker 1: It's an interesting one. Like so seven to eight years
- 20:40Speaker 1: ago they had a one night stand. When did she
- 20:42Speaker 1: find out? Though? Recently? I think I feel like that's.
- 20:45Speaker 3: An issue if you have been unbeknownst to their sexual
- 20:49Speaker 3: relationship in the past, and then I don't know where
- 20:52Speaker 3: he goes. Oh yeah, by the way, I fucked her
- 20:53Speaker 3: like seven years ago. Yeah, we had sex like something years.
- 20:56Speaker 3: I've seen her as a fucking friend.
- 20:58Speaker 1: The issue, I would like to say, so, the reason
- 21:03Speaker 1: I think that he should cease contact is because you
- 21:08Speaker 1: guys have both spoken about the fact that you both
- 21:13Speaker 1: think that it is inappropriate to have contact with any
- 21:17Speaker 1: sexual with past sexual partners and or x'es, and so
- 21:22Speaker 1: for him to say that that's not a past sexual
- 21:24Speaker 1: partner is I would say hypocritical. Even though it was
- 21:28Speaker 1: like you could argue, like it's ancient history, blah blah blah,
- 21:31Speaker 1: we've been friends ever since and there's never been anything
- 21:33Speaker 1: else happened. Like, it's a bit of a hard one
- 21:36Speaker 1: when you have agreed, because in the beginning of the relationship,
- 21:41Speaker 1: when this whole topic of conversation was brought up, you
- 21:44Speaker 1: could say, he could have said, look, I do agree
- 21:46Speaker 1: with that, but I do want you to know that
- 21:49Speaker 1: I actually have a friend from like, like I guess
- 21:53Speaker 1: at the time would have been like, you know, like
- 21:54Speaker 1: six seven years ago that I'm friends with, but like
- 21:59Speaker 1: we we slept together once. Yeah, and so personally I
- 22:03Speaker 1: see her as only a friend, and like I just
- 22:07Speaker 1: if that's something you're comfortable with, then at the very
- 22:09Speaker 1: beginning of the relationship that like that's when the hard
- 22:11Speaker 1: conversations need to happen. I understand avoiding them, fully understand
- 22:15Speaker 1: avoiding them, but like I think, yeah, having found out
- 22:21Speaker 1: recently is like the issue. I agree.
- 22:23Speaker 3: I feel like he's hidden that on purpose. And I
- 22:27Speaker 3: have kind of like had that relationship with someone and
- 22:30Speaker 3: before meeting my partner in a sense of like we're.
- 22:32Speaker 1: In sleep together, but we're very flirty we.
- 22:34Speaker 3: Kissed a lot, and we were in quotes friends, but
- 22:37Speaker 3: I was a very flirty friend. Yeah, Like there's that
- 22:41Speaker 3: pretense that we both find each other really attractive, Like
- 22:44Speaker 3: could happen if we wanted it to back when I
- 22:46Speaker 3: was single, blah blah blah. And it wasn't like a
- 22:48Speaker 3: batonic friendship I have with other women. There was that
- 22:50Speaker 3: sexual attraction and that's what I like. Yeah, that's what
- 22:53Speaker 3: I liked about it, and I dare say that's what
- 22:55Speaker 3: she liked about it too, And I feel like that's
- 22:56Speaker 3: what this guy likes about that.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard, Like I'm sure.
- 23:04Speaker 3: People will call us immature that you can't be friends
- 23:06Speaker 3: with someone who's text with.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Look, I fully see that argument great fully. I fully
- 23:13Speaker 1: see that argument of it being immature. I think that
- 23:17Speaker 1: if you if you, if you're more than habita, stay
- 23:19Speaker 1: of friends with someone that you've slept with, I think
- 23:20Speaker 1: it's fine. Like, I just think that he kind of
- 23:23Speaker 1: maybe told a bit of a fib in the beginning
- 23:24Speaker 1: of your relationship. That's the issue, and it's disrespectful with
- 23:27Speaker 1: the minimum. And so you've gone into this year, you're
- 23:30Speaker 1: a year in and found this thing out and I
- 23:35Speaker 1: guess I wouldn't really know what to do. I just
- 23:38Speaker 1: think that the issue isn't so much the fact that
- 23:42Speaker 1: he is you know, I guess, like are they friends
- 23:45Speaker 1: or do they just kind of like keep contact. I
- 23:48Speaker 1: don't know. It's interesting fun talk about.
- 23:50Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an easy solution too, because if you love
- 23:53Speaker 3: your partner and like, it's an easy solution, and it
- 23:55Speaker 3: doesn't affect him where he sees it so miniscule, such
- 23:59Speaker 3: a miniscule amount year.
- 24:00Speaker 1: So yeah, the way I see it is like me personally,
- 24:03Speaker 1: I would much prefer to stop the contact with this
- 24:06Speaker 1: person that I talked to maybe monthly or so and
- 24:09Speaker 1: protect my girlfriend. My girl friend's peace a lot better.
- 24:13Speaker 1: It seems such a but she's not controlling him that way. No,
- 24:17Speaker 1: like he should be making this, but she your voice
- 24:20Speaker 1: that I'm uncomfortable and he said no. That's and also
- 24:24Speaker 1: the fact that like he I assume hasn't come out
- 24:26Speaker 1: in the open and been like, oh, I'm very very
- 24:31Speaker 1: sorry I I I didn't mention this in the beginning.
- 24:34Speaker 1: If he did that that would be great, Like if
- 24:36Speaker 1: he really owns up to it and he's like, look
- 24:38Speaker 1: and explain what the friendship meant to yeah, he explained
- 24:40Speaker 1: what it meant to him, and then and he goes, yeah,
- 24:41Speaker 1: like we did this thing like what we did at
- 24:43Speaker 1: one time, but at the same time. Again, it's like
- 24:47Speaker 1: you're dating someone who, in the beginning of the relationship
- 24:50Speaker 1: has said I am not comfortable with communications with past
- 24:55Speaker 1: sexual partners. And so you agreed, and so I'm sorry,
- 25:00Speaker 1: Like I think that this friend is considered a past
- 25:03Speaker 1: sexual partner. I agree. So I think your boyfriend's wrong
- 25:08Speaker 1: and you're right. Agreed.
- 25:09Speaker 3: Yeah, best way to put it we should say every
- 25:12Speaker 3: dilemma like that.
- 25:13Speaker 1: I feel like you're right and your boyfriend's wrong. Yeah,
- 25:15Speaker 1: I think I think they don't have sex with him anymore.
- 25:18Speaker 3: No, you can keep having sex with him, all right,
- 25:20Speaker 3: Next dilemma, but bad is if you want to submit
- 25:22Speaker 3: a dilemma that the link will be in the description. And
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- 25:31Speaker 3: Yeah, as well as an extra episode every single week.
- 25:35Speaker 3: And why your anisodes are over there ad free, AD free, Yeah, exactly,
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- 25:40Speaker 1: Man.
- 25:40Speaker 3: Why you're out at five star up because eight K
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- 25:45Speaker 1: You got to get there first. I think we're at
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- 25:49Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, not a relationship dilemma. Hi, Mummy and Daddy.
- 25:54Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 25:55Speaker 3: I tried to make this as short as possible, but
- 25:57Speaker 3: I'm dyslexic, stressed, and spiraling relatable. My best friend is
- 26:02Speaker 3: getting married. We're both twenty four, female and have been
- 26:06Speaker 3: best friends since we were twelve, including five years at
- 26:09Speaker 3: boarding school. Iykyk, what does that mean?
- 26:12Speaker 1: Again?
- 26:13Speaker 5: I know?
- 26:13Speaker 1: If you know you know? Okay, she is my absolute
- 26:16Speaker 1: right or die and we have shared you please repeat
- 26:20Speaker 1: the sentence before. If you know you know?
- 26:22Speaker 3: We're both twenty four and female and have been best
- 26:24Speaker 3: friends since we were twelve, including five years at boarding school.
- 26:26Speaker 1: If you know? Does that mean like they kissed and shap?
- 26:28Speaker 1: I don't know what is is bording school mean that?
- 26:31Speaker 3: I don't know because I clearly don't know that's alluding
- 26:34Speaker 3: to that's alluding to.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Something as me as well, Like what do you mean
- 26:37Speaker 1: if you know you know? Or is it just like
- 26:39Speaker 1: you become really good friends of boarding school because he
- 26:40Speaker 1: spend so much time together. Yeah, we're being fucking stupid men.
- 26:45Speaker 1: I don't know anyway.
- 26:46Speaker 3: She is my absolute right or die, and we have
- 26:49Speaker 3: shared the toughest times in life together. I honestly thought
- 26:52Speaker 3: either her sister or I would be made of honor,
- 26:55Speaker 3: especially because we've always talked about being each other's made
- 26:59Speaker 3: of honors, planning hens, hen dos, etc. Instead, she chose
- 27:05Speaker 3: a friend she's only known for four years, someone I've
- 27:09Speaker 3: never met. What hurts the most is that she never
- 27:13Speaker 3: told me, and I had.
- 27:14Speaker 1: To piece it together myself.
- 27:16Speaker 3: I'm currently living in another country and need to book
- 27:19Speaker 3: flights to get time off work for the wedding. I've
- 27:22Speaker 3: messaged the Maid of Honor a few times asking about
- 27:24Speaker 3: the Hens weekends, the Hens weekend dates and plans so
- 27:28Speaker 3: I can arrange travel, but I've had no response. When
- 27:31Speaker 3: I asked the bride, she said it's up to the
- 27:34Speaker 3: maid of honor.
- 27:35Speaker 1: That's a bit rough.
- 27:36Speaker 3: I'm at the point where I'm thinking of only booking
- 27:39Speaker 3: flights for the wedding and skipping the hands because it's
- 27:42Speaker 3: so disorganized. However, I feel guilty because I don't want
- 27:47Speaker 3: to let the bride down and feel like I'm being selfish.
- 27:50Speaker 3: But I also don't want to keep pestering her about
- 27:53Speaker 3: what's happening when she is apparently having nothing to do
- 27:56Speaker 3: with that plan. I also feel bad because I am
- 27:58Speaker 3: sulted about the situation, and I don't know that I
- 28:02Speaker 3: have a right to beat. What would you do in
- 28:04Speaker 3: this situation? Please help Battie out ps love the pod,
- 28:07Speaker 3: keep doing what you love.
- 28:08Speaker 1: Boys, that's heavy. That is heavy. I've got to say,
- 28:13Speaker 1: that's a heavy one, and I think you're valid to
- 28:16Speaker 1: feel salty. And I would also skip the hens do
- 28:18Speaker 1: and only book flights for the wedding, show up to
- 28:20Speaker 1: the wedding for your friend, but be like, but like,
- 28:23Speaker 1: that's a bit rough. I would say that's rough.
- 28:25Speaker 3: I yeah, I agree too, because like, if you fair enough,
- 28:29Speaker 3: I guess that you are the maid of honor. I
- 28:31Speaker 3: guess over the past four years maybe they've become super
- 28:35Speaker 3: close and that's a hard thing to accept. But then also,
- 28:38Speaker 3: if you messaged your old best friend saying like, hey,
- 28:41Speaker 3: I've tried messaging the maid of honor and she's not
- 28:43Speaker 3: replying to me. Just getting the details for hens, I've
- 28:45Speaker 3: got a book flights overseas, Like just be an normal person,
- 28:47Speaker 3: be like, hey, I'll get I'll find out for you
- 28:49Speaker 3: don't say.
- 28:49Speaker 1: Like, why hasn't the bride being like actually being like
- 28:52Speaker 1: oh I really want you there, yeah, and kicking the
- 28:55Speaker 1: maid of honor into gear to get shit sorted so
- 28:57Speaker 1: you can get your shits.
- 28:57Speaker 3: I'm sure she knows though, like it's surely the main
- 29:00Speaker 3: of the bride is, like, I know when my own hens.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Is you would think, so, yeah, it's not a surprise
- 29:08Speaker 1: that you would think.
- 29:08Speaker 3: But also like if my if you move back to
- 29:11Speaker 3: Canada and I was having I was getting married to
- 29:13Speaker 3: Cassie and I really wanted you there, and you're like, oh,
- 29:15Speaker 3: I'm just trying to organize flights.
- 29:17Speaker 1: And yeah, let's just and let's just say you chose someone.
- 29:20Speaker 1: And I'm kind of like I'd love to like, come,
- 29:22Speaker 1: when is it? And you're like Grimsman's doing it, my
- 29:26Speaker 1: best man's doing it. I'd be like, yeah, you won't
- 29:30Speaker 1: reply to me, and you're like best man's doing it.
- 29:33Speaker 1: I'd be like, okay, I'm not coming to your wed
- 29:36Speaker 1: facts Like I actually if you did the here, I
- 29:39Speaker 1: don't know if this helps you at all, Baddy, this
- 29:41Speaker 1: is how I work. If this exact situation happened, I
- 29:46Speaker 1: don't know for argument's sake, the podcast is over and
- 29:49Speaker 1: we make money in a different way, but we're still
- 29:51Speaker 1: best mates. Yeah, I think I don't know if this
- 29:56Speaker 1: helps you at all, baud it. But I find out
- 29:59Speaker 1: I'm not man, even though we like keep contacting shit,
- 30:03Speaker 1: and so then I'm like ouch, but okay, that's cool.
- 30:08Speaker 1: I message best the best man and ask for details
- 30:11Speaker 1: for the things so I can book flights. I get aired,
- 30:14Speaker 1: I ask you, and you go, I don't know the
- 30:16Speaker 1: best man like I'm like always aired me, and you
- 30:18Speaker 1: go the best Man's organized. I don't know. I genuinely
- 30:21Speaker 1: would not come to your wedding.
- 30:22Speaker 3: I agree too, and like one chance and you're out.
- 30:25Speaker 3: Like I've already done my part. I've messaged someone and
- 30:27Speaker 3: got aired, and then I've messaged you and you've also
- 30:29Speaker 3: been a.
- 30:29Speaker 1: C u nt. Yeah, like I would not go to
- 30:33Speaker 1: the wedding.
- 30:33Speaker 3: Yeah, and where the type of people where the type
- 30:34Speaker 3: of people who don't need closure though, but like I
- 30:36Speaker 3: don't know, a lot of people would be like, well,
- 30:38Speaker 3: I've got to say something so she understands where I'm
- 30:39Speaker 3: coming from.
- 30:40Speaker 1: But also fuck them, and it's hard, like you could
- 30:42Speaker 1: because a good argument is like, well, so women's relationships
- 30:45Speaker 1: are a lot deeper. But like I would say, you're
- 30:48Speaker 1: the only deep relationship I have that is damn right.
- 30:53Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right, like of love of
- 30:56Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and like so I would that for me
- 31:00Speaker 1: it hurts, It would hurt as much. But I still think,
- 31:03Speaker 1: like I just like I'm not going there.
- 31:04Speaker 3: Fuck yah yeah, okay, I agree so honestly, Diana Hill.
- 31:09Speaker 1: And then just I don't know what, so look and
- 31:11Speaker 1: so here. If you definitely are going to go to
- 31:12Speaker 1: the wedding, I would be skipping the hens doing only
- 31:15Speaker 1: buying flights to the wedding and doing it under you,
- 31:16Speaker 1: like just go go show up and then be like cool,
- 31:18Speaker 1: I'm here for you, hush, yeah exactly.
- 31:20Speaker 3: And the harsh truth is it sounds like the fucking
- 31:22Speaker 3: bride doesn't even care that you're not coming out of
- 31:23Speaker 3: the hand literally I know. And if she says something,
- 31:26Speaker 3: I'll be like, girl, I fucking asked you when I
- 31:28Speaker 3: live overseas and you didn't give the book thousand dollars
- 31:30Speaker 3: flights to come see you.
- 31:32Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And she's like, let's say she messages you
- 31:34Speaker 1: like like so she's upset with you that you didn't
- 31:36Speaker 1: come to the hens. It's like, fuck you literally fuck yeah, honestly, Venus,
- 31:45Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Is this bitch she met four
- 31:47Speaker 1: years ago? Yeah, let's hate on this woman for no reason.
- 31:50Speaker 1: I can't believe this. Who is this woman? Yeah, you
- 31:53Speaker 1: had twelve years of friendship and then it sounds like
- 31:55Speaker 1: you had sex with her. To be fair and like,
- 31:57Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie the way you said if you know,
- 31:59Speaker 1: you know, insince waited it. But look, I'm just going
- 32:01Speaker 1: to assume you became really close a boarding school. Yeah,
- 32:03Speaker 1: but the way close sex? Ow dare she? I agree?
- 32:08Speaker 1: I agree? All right, Jake.
- 32:16Speaker 3: Recently, a couple of weeks ago, it was International Women's
- 32:19Speaker 3: Day and I actually saw a very interesting post titled
- 32:24Speaker 3: some acts of micro feminism, and it is a post
- 32:28Speaker 3: by Growing Journeys.
- 32:29Speaker 1: So shout out to you. This is this is this
- 32:32Speaker 1: saying this is how you can perform yes, micro feminism. Yeah,
- 32:37Speaker 1: and we have been labeled on the podcast feminists we
- 32:40Speaker 1: have before in the comments, but I thought this.
- 32:43Speaker 3: Was interesting because it kind of breaks I'm gonna say,
- 32:46Speaker 3: the stereotypes that a lot of men have towards women,
- 32:51Speaker 3: old and outdated stereotypes, and these are kind of like
- 32:55Speaker 3: just he he ha ha, but also not Yeah. So
- 33:00Speaker 3: some acts of micro feminism ask men who's watching the
- 33:03Speaker 3: kids when they go out alone? Okay, because the assumption
- 33:08Speaker 3: that the women help to look after the kids.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Is obviously wrong. Yeah, and a lot of men, I
- 33:12Speaker 1: still I think, still see what context? Who would ask it?
- 33:17Speaker 3: I think, oh, these probably this comes from a woman.
- 33:20Speaker 3: I would say it would be good if.
- 33:21Speaker 1: Men did it. But and so when, so when do
- 33:24Speaker 1: you ask it? So if he is going to go out,
- 33:26Speaker 1: is that when you say.
- 33:27Speaker 3: He says he's like, oh, I'm just going to go
- 33:29Speaker 3: out to the pub tonight.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, I'm going to go to get a bier
- 33:32Speaker 1: of my mates. Yeah. And then you're going to be like,
- 33:33Speaker 1: we who's watching the kids? Yeah? I do like that.
- 33:37Speaker 1: I don't I don't dislike it. Yeah, yeah, that's good.
- 33:39Speaker 1: It's like subtle. But and then he's going to be like,
- 33:41Speaker 1: ohh you and then you're going to be like, we
- 33:43Speaker 1: didn't talking about that? Yeah, life too.
- 33:45Speaker 3: Yeah, where's the assumption that I have to look after exactly?
- 33:49Speaker 1: Yeah? I like it. Okay. Next one, this is exactly
- 33:52Speaker 1: to the point I reckon when a man gets angry
- 33:55Speaker 1: in a meeting, say, whoa, he is very emotional today,
- 34:00Speaker 1: That would genuinely be one of the best feelings, I reckon.
- 34:04Speaker 1: I know we aren't advocates for violence.
- 34:09Speaker 3: No, I feel like there's a time of place fucking
- 34:12Speaker 3: right hook, yeah, left right, good night.
- 34:16Speaker 1: It is I think there is. Yeah, there's a I
- 34:19Speaker 1: would there's a big problem in corporate, I would say,
- 34:24Speaker 1: but also just kind of I guess the working class,
- 34:27Speaker 1: everyone that works.
- 34:28Speaker 3: I don't know where very corporate, isn't it. It just
- 34:31Speaker 3: for some reason it seems corporate.
- 34:32Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like a lot of the time,
- 34:36Speaker 1: like men will look at a women's valid reaction to
- 34:43Speaker 1: something as just an emotional response when maybe something that's
- 34:48Speaker 1: happening at work it triggers an emotion, so you are
- 34:53Speaker 1: having an emotional response, but like it's a valid one
- 34:56Speaker 1: where then very very close to most of the time,
- 35:01Speaker 1: men are going to be the ones that are like, oh,
- 35:03Speaker 1: she's just like, I'm sorry how that made you feel
- 35:06Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry that you feel that way type of thing,
- 35:08Speaker 1: like I'm sorry that it made you react that way
- 35:10Speaker 1: or whatever something like that, and it just like really
- 35:12Speaker 1: undermines a whole situation and minds everything, and like if
- 35:15Speaker 1: a man had if a man had the same reaction,
- 35:17Speaker 1: it would just be like a decision. Yeah, and a
- 35:20Speaker 1: weird thing that's happening to someone I know right now.
- 35:22Speaker 1: I'm going to give it hell a vague just because,
- 35:25Speaker 1: like I don't want to It's funny. I don't know
- 35:27Speaker 1: many people, so there's a chance you might be to
- 35:28Speaker 1: work it out and head pitt it pick who it is.
- 35:30Speaker 1: But I don't know if this is a huge issue
- 35:32Speaker 1: or not.
- 35:32Speaker 3: It's to be a good question for all the bouties actually,
- 35:35Speaker 3: and that is I know someone right now that is
- 35:38Speaker 3: going through a little bit of workplace just.
- 35:43Speaker 1: I don't want to say drama. I want to say
- 35:45Speaker 1: like bullying. I would say it's it would be considered,
- 35:48Speaker 1: in my opinion, workplace bullying towards the person I know,
- 35:52Speaker 1: But it's coming from another woman and then older woman.
- 35:57Speaker 1: She's actually younger, so she's younger than but she's doing it.
- 36:02Speaker 1: But she's higher up in the company, so still a
- 36:05Speaker 1: bit of a power dynamic, and so there's more than
- 36:08Speaker 1: one person that has problems with her. And the boss
- 36:12Speaker 1: is a man, and he is not handling it well.
- 36:16Speaker 1: I doesn't know how to handle it. So the person
- 36:21Speaker 1: has gone to the boss and said, I'd really like
- 36:24Speaker 1: a contact for HR, this big company, I'd really like
- 36:28Speaker 1: to contact for HR. And the first thing he said was,
- 36:31Speaker 1: I really think that would make it a lot worse.
- 36:34Speaker 1: What crazy? Isn't that like legal? If someone says I
- 36:38Speaker 1: want to go to HR and they said, I think
- 36:39Speaker 1: they would make it worse.
- 36:40Speaker 3: I don't know if it's illegal, but it's definitely bad management.
- 36:43Speaker 1: That's terrible. How bad is That's like the opposite of
- 36:45Speaker 1: what you should say. It should be like here, that's
- 36:47Speaker 1: so that's the thing as well as like I think
- 36:50Speaker 1: that the reason that the boss is saying this is
- 36:53Speaker 1: because there's been quite a few problems with this particular woman. Yeah,
- 36:57Speaker 1: and he finds it a lot easier to just like
- 37:03Speaker 1: kind of turn a blind eye. Really, that is the
- 37:06Speaker 1: big problem.
- 37:07Speaker 3: Like a lot of men prefer to turn the blind
- 37:09Speaker 3: eye then deal with what's going on.
- 37:11Speaker 1: Even though it's two women, I think, and so it's
- 37:14Speaker 1: a woman doing it to a woman as well, by
- 37:15Speaker 1: the way, in this situation, and not I'm not saying
- 37:17Speaker 1: like I just don't know if that if that's a
- 37:20Speaker 1: common thing, but I just remember when I was hearing
- 37:22Speaker 1: about it, I was like, it's just another unfold, like
- 37:24Speaker 1: it would it would suck if it's a man, and
- 37:26Speaker 1: it would, and it sucks that I'm about to say this,
- 37:28Speaker 1: But it's like you expect it from a man, Yeah,
- 37:31Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so when it's coming
- 37:33Speaker 1: from another woman, it's like, how come, Yeah, how come
- 37:37Speaker 1: we're bringing each other down? Exactly? It's unfortunate. Yeah, okay,
- 37:41Speaker 1: next to be fair, I guess some women could also
- 37:45Speaker 1: just be shitty humans. I suppose.
- 37:49Speaker 3: I actually have like a harsh realization that a lot
- 37:51Speaker 3: of humans, irrespective of gender, aren't nice people. Yeah, and
- 37:54Speaker 3: that's a hard thing to accept. Hey, we're like the
- 37:57Speaker 3: most self centered people in the universe.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's for our baddies, Yeah of course.
- 38:02Speaker 3: All right, here's some acts of micro feminism. Ask fathers
- 38:06Speaker 3: detailed childcare questions, like what shoe size does your child have?
- 38:11Speaker 1: Dang, oh my god, imagine if I didn't know that.
- 38:15Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't know that. But
- 38:17Speaker 1: that's crazy, crazy, And I think the stereotype too. Even
- 38:20Speaker 1: I remember, like great dad, but like he couldn't remember,
- 38:22Speaker 1: for shit, what food I liked? Yeah, no, you know.
- 38:25Speaker 1: Also another thing about dads is like, how come you
- 38:29Speaker 1: can't remember my friend's names. I've told you a million times,
- 38:33Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, my dad's actually relatively good.
- 38:36Speaker 1: You remember mine? Of course? You know what he does
- 38:38Speaker 1: to me before you came up to Queensland last time. Yeah,
- 38:45Speaker 1: I'm talking to him and he goes, oh, when's he coming.
- 38:46Speaker 1: I was like said, whatever day, and he goes, anybody
- 38:49Speaker 1: call him my star and I was like, nah, just
- 38:52Speaker 1: calls him body and he goes, I think I'm going
- 38:54Speaker 1: to call me up myster. I was like, you'd be
- 38:56Speaker 1: the first, but I'm sure he'd accept it. And he
- 38:57Speaker 1: didn't do it. I didn't think just kidding, No, No, that's
- 39:02Speaker 1: not I shouldn't gone that. What a a liar is
- 39:06Speaker 1: a liar? And I was like, hey, you can do it.
- 39:08Speaker 1: He won't care, but I'll call it. Would you call
- 39:12Speaker 1: him when you're drunk that time? Ryan? His name is Brett,
- 39:18Speaker 1: Yeah you should. Actually he would find that so funny.
- 39:21Speaker 1: It would take him a second, but he would find
- 39:22Speaker 1: all right.
- 39:25Speaker 3: When someone says I went to the doctor, reply, oh
- 39:28Speaker 3: what did she say?
- 39:29Speaker 1: I love that. That's the best one, the one I
- 39:33Speaker 1: think I think it's also people's I was guilty of it.
- 39:37Speaker 1: The other day. We were at the Nova office and
- 39:41Speaker 1: the so Nova is a private company, but it's owned
- 39:45Speaker 1: by like it might be called like an investment firm
- 39:48Speaker 1: or eventual capitalist firm. I don't know what it is, right,
- 39:49Speaker 1: but it's owned by this firm privately, and the firm
- 39:53Speaker 1: has a the person that runs that firm, it's a woman.
- 39:57Speaker 1: And we were doing this thing and someone at OVA goes, oh,
- 39:59Speaker 1: and like the chair person of the company that owns
- 40:01Speaker 1: Nover's going to be there, and I was like, oh,
- 40:03Speaker 1: like what's his name? Assuming it was a man, Like
- 40:06Speaker 1: so it's like the problem legit, No, didn't that is
- 40:10Speaker 1: part of the problem. And then the person I was
- 40:12Speaker 1: talking to corrected me, saying, oh she and I straight
- 40:14Speaker 1: away it was like fuck, like fucking like I hate
- 40:18Speaker 1: that that you were that And I was like, oh, yeah,
- 40:20Speaker 1: ship like fuck, it didn't even like ask that. I
- 40:23Speaker 1: felt terrible. Yeah, but I just think like, like, I
- 40:28Speaker 1: obviously don't think of myself as a misogynist, but that
- 40:31Speaker 1: is a form of misogyny that's just like deep rooted
- 40:34Speaker 1: in society.
- 40:36Speaker 3: Is the equivalent or not because his preference sometimes When
- 40:38Speaker 3: I talk about the kid that I might have in
- 40:40Speaker 3: the future, I say he instead of she or them.
- 40:44Speaker 1: But that's because I would like a male son.
- 40:46Speaker 3: Like you want a boy, girl, boy or just any
- 40:48Speaker 3: I don't really care, but I want one of you
- 40:51Speaker 3: to see.
- 40:51Speaker 1: How misogynistic you are. You would only have one kid?
- 40:57Speaker 3: No, but maybe my brain immediately goes to he because
- 40:59Speaker 3: I would like a male son.
- 41:01Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interest.
- 41:02Speaker 3: Is that also maybe a bit of Yeah, I would
- 41:04Speaker 3: say that's kind of like a deep rooted form ab
- 41:06Speaker 3: is those of the comments like that might also because
- 41:08Speaker 3: it could be to be a preference thing, because it
- 41:09Speaker 3: could be a perence.
- 41:10Speaker 1: But it's like is it a preference because I don't know?
- 41:13Speaker 3: And also also I don't care, like whatever I get,
- 41:15Speaker 3: I get, but also like that's just what comes out
- 41:17Speaker 3: of my mouth sometimes with it out there.
- 41:20Speaker 1: If I was only other one kid, i'd want a woman. Yeah,
- 41:22Speaker 1: I act genuinely I would have a son. But if
- 41:27Speaker 1: I do, I've always been like, I want boy girl,
- 41:30Speaker 1: so no, I want girl boy girl. I've always kind
- 41:31Speaker 1: of thought that, like three kids, and I want two girls,
- 41:33Speaker 1: one boy the boy in the middle. But I wouldn't
- 41:38Speaker 1: I would not hate like three having three women, I
- 41:42Speaker 1: would not I can actually say that three girls I want.
- 41:45Speaker 1: I love it boy girl, yeah, but I prefer three girls.
- 41:48Speaker 1: I think we would say that much.
- 41:49Speaker 3: I think we would be great girl dads, and I
- 41:52Speaker 3: think I think.
- 41:53Speaker 1: I think we'd be great boy dads. I think we'd
- 41:55Speaker 1: be both but also like girl dads too.
- 41:57Speaker 3: And I've never had like that sort of like relationship
- 41:59Speaker 3: because I'm from two brothers too. Would be so intriguing
- 42:01Speaker 3: to you, and I had sisters. Yeah, yeah, so you're
- 42:03Speaker 3: kind of like used to a little bit.
- 42:05Speaker 1: All right.
- 42:05Speaker 3: Next one, acts of micro feminism. This must be a
- 42:08Speaker 3: very corporate thing. Ask a man at a meeting, can
- 42:11Speaker 3: you take notes today?
- 42:12Speaker 1: Ah, that's hilarious that I always directed that the women.
- 42:16Speaker 1: I assume. I assume I'm not in corporate meetings, but
- 42:18Speaker 1: I guess I can see that go meetings. How I
- 42:20Speaker 1: used that on you? You know? It's also I don't
- 42:22Speaker 1: think i've been okay of all that. We to be fair,
- 42:25Speaker 1: we've had a lot of zoom meetings and we've been
- 42:26Speaker 1: to a lot of meetings. Yeah, I think of let's
- 42:29Speaker 1: like we've probably done like in our life fifty meetings.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Maybe no not that many, but a fair few. I
- 42:37Speaker 1: actually am pretty sure, Like two of them have been
- 42:39Speaker 1: run by men. True, the owner of our management company
- 42:45Speaker 1: is a husband and wife, but the woman, like the wife,
- 42:47Speaker 1: she started it from the ground up and then like
- 42:49Speaker 1: brought her husband in and like so they both co
- 42:51Speaker 1: own it, but she's in charge. Yeah. And then at
- 42:55Speaker 1: NOVA there is like we've spoken to like two men,
- 43:00Speaker 1: but every meeting we've had the person in charge, and
- 43:02Speaker 1: like the boss of the men is a woman, then
- 43:04Speaker 1: the men is a woman as well. And then I
- 43:06Speaker 1: saw this other thing and apparently according to this one
- 43:11Speaker 1: like corporate fella, he goes. In my opinion, women make
- 43:15Speaker 1: better CEOs than men because they're so much better at friendships.
- 43:20Speaker 1: They're way better at forming teams and like groups. I agree.
- 43:25Speaker 1: That's kind of interesting.
- 43:26Speaker 3: Yeah, I also see like for some reason there's a
- 43:30Speaker 3: conflict between both genders.
- 43:31Speaker 1: We're in a sense to make such an evening that
- 43:35Speaker 1: people were talking about.
- 43:36Speaker 3: The business world, you need both to be successful because
- 43:39Speaker 3: you both offer such different things.
- 43:41Speaker 1: I guess it's like the same thing of I guess
- 43:42Speaker 1: a heterosexual relationship.
- 43:44Speaker 3: But yeah, it's conflict instead of bringing each other up
- 43:46Speaker 3: together because we need each other.
- 43:47Speaker 1: It's weird. Is it weird to like compare a fucking
- 43:50Speaker 1: corp the corporate world to a heterosexual relationship? Though I
- 43:54Speaker 1: don't know, man, maybe it is going off that acts
- 43:56Speaker 1: of micro feminism say male nurse, male, doctor, male ceo male, yeah, female.
- 44:04Speaker 3: No no, instead of because we just say like nurse, oh,
- 44:08Speaker 3: instead of saying doctor, you say male to specify, because
- 44:11Speaker 3: we just assume a CEO is that do you specify?
- 44:14Speaker 1: Do you understand?
- 44:15Speaker 3: No, instead of only doing that with women, so they say, oh,
- 44:19Speaker 3: I know it is male.
- 44:21Speaker 1: Like the CEO. Yeah. So if you're going to say
- 44:25Speaker 1: the female ceo, you also say the male ceo. Yes,
- 44:29Speaker 1: just say the ceo yeah, and then everyone can just
- 44:33Speaker 1: assume I guess what they want it to be. I
- 44:36Speaker 1: have no idea. Last one too, This one's funny. It's
- 44:39Speaker 1: probably the funniest one.
- 44:40Speaker 3: Acts of micro feminism at a barbecue, hand the tongs
- 44:43Speaker 3: to the nearest woman.
- 44:44Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's with the what's with the men in barbecue? Thing?
- 44:49Speaker 1: Like a dad will cook like three meals in his
- 44:52Speaker 1: life and they'll all be on the barbecue and they'll
- 44:53Speaker 1: be fucking burn.
- 44:54Speaker 3: Massive massive stereotype there. I guess, like Yeah, that's hilarious.
- 44:58Speaker 3: That's a hand him to a woman.
- 45:00Speaker 1: I don't know about that too, because the cook I
- 45:02Speaker 1: don't know about that, Like, hey, yeah, you do you
- 45:04Speaker 1: do the cooking. I didn't think of that.
- 45:07Speaker 3: Maybe if you're at like a maybe maybe the best
- 45:11Speaker 3: way to do it is like the man's got the
- 45:12Speaker 3: tongues in his hand, pick him up, take him off him,
- 45:14Speaker 3: and then hand.
- 45:15Speaker 1: Him another man just goes that's wrong too, damn it. Yeah, true,
- 45:17Speaker 1: that's wrong. I don't know.
- 45:18Speaker 3: Is it wrong because cooking like the stereotopic or we've
- 45:20Speaker 3: been cooking clean that's.
- 45:22Speaker 1: Like, maybe don't do it at a barbecue. Maybe do
- 45:25Speaker 1: it at a normal dinner and get like, let's just say,
- 45:32Speaker 1: I don't know, how can you run on? I don't
- 45:35Speaker 1: know about that one funny. I know what you mean
- 45:37Speaker 1: an initial shock value it had me, but I would
- 45:39Speaker 1: say shock value that happened as well. I understand the
- 45:42Speaker 1: shock value of it, but I would say that is
- 45:45Speaker 1: also leaning towards slightly misage. I like anything that. Yeah,
- 45:51Speaker 1: I agree.
- 45:51Speaker 3: Anything that challenges someone to think is good, even if
- 45:55Speaker 3: it's a little bit playful.
- 45:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
- 45:57Speaker 6: Yeah, time for comments if you want to get a
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- 46:08Speaker 3: I've got Spotify where we asked who we should have
- 46:11Speaker 3: on the podcast. Oh, excitingly enough, we've got Mimi saying
- 46:15Speaker 3: you could do an episode with two broke chicks since
- 46:18Speaker 3: you've already done one on their podcast.
- 46:20Speaker 1: Easy, we could do that. It was actually meant to
- 46:21Speaker 1: be a pod switch, but we ran out of time. Yeah,
- 46:24Speaker 1: like prior. Yeah, they ended up. They couldn't. We had
- 46:27Speaker 1: to reschedule them. So we'll reschedule and we'll get them on. Yeah,
- 46:30Speaker 1: we went on. There is now blown away about that.
- 46:36Speaker 3: And then Jessica has also said, please do a podcast
- 46:40Speaker 3: with Lucy.
- 46:40Speaker 1: And Nicky from Happy Hour. Oh, they live on the
- 46:42Speaker 1: goal of you get in contact with them.
- 46:44Speaker 3: Yeah, we can get them in our new studio. Yeah,
- 46:46Speaker 3: I'll go one more. I don't know who this is,
- 46:48Speaker 3: but Bianca Rose said you guys should do a collab
- 46:51Speaker 3: with Maddie boke It, founder of Tilda Outdoors. I don't
- 46:56Speaker 3: know who that is, but we'll look into it. I
- 46:58Speaker 3: like it, all right, bad is it's time for one
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- 47:06Speaker 1: Jake, who we gonna call Megan?
- 47:10Speaker 2: Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do do?
- 47:14Speaker 3: Whoever we had last week, Sorr, I've forgotten your name
- 47:16Speaker 3: was an absolute weapon. Tash, Yeah, Tah, Tash was the
- 47:19Speaker 3: best so but also Tash.
- 47:22Speaker 1: I think you might have been wearing headphones. And she
- 47:24Speaker 1: said she was on a walk with her dog. It
- 47:25Speaker 1: sounded like she was at an airport. Is this Megan
- 47:28Speaker 1: or Meghan? Oh? Great question, Well place bets Megan, Megan,
- 47:34Speaker 1: you'd say that.
- 47:36Speaker 2: Hello, This is Meg.
- 47:37Speaker 1: Hello Meg, It's Jake and Oddy from the Relatables podcast.
- 47:40Speaker 1: How are you going?
- 47:41Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so cool.
- 47:44Speaker 3: I have a question to start. Is it Meghan or Megan?
- 47:48Speaker 1: Megan, Megan, he's already one up. We are calling you.
- 47:52Speaker 3: To ask if you could please sign off our episode
- 47:55Speaker 3: with anything you want, some advice, a joke, you can
- 47:58Speaker 3: sing if you really want to have you got something ready?
- 48:01Speaker 2: Oh ah, I did have some stuff written down, but
- 48:05Speaker 2: probably favorite quote and one that I live by. And
- 48:10Speaker 2: actually it's kind of funny. I listened to an episode
- 48:13Speaker 2: of Yours ages ago. I can't remember which one it was,
- 48:16Speaker 2: but you're talking about working smarter, not harder. It kind
- 48:24Speaker 2: of contradicts that to play devil's advocation, So it is,
- 48:31Speaker 2: it's the exact wording. Now you've got me on the spot.
- 48:35Speaker 1: Okay, take it time.
- 48:38Speaker 2: Hard work beats talent where talent doesn't work hard.
- 48:43Speaker 1: That's like a quote that I have heard in sport before.
- 48:46Speaker 1: Hard work beats talent every day of the week. What
- 48:49Speaker 1: if you're super talented, though, then you're just lucky. No,
- 48:55Speaker 1: I like it. That's great. No, look, yeah, I'll give
- 48:57Speaker 1: you that one. Yeah, I'll give you it, dude, I
- 48:59Speaker 1: like it. I definitely think hard work gets you the
- 49:02Speaker 1: fervice in life. Definitely. I agree. Well, thank you very
- 49:05Speaker 1: much for signing off the episode, and enjoy the rest
- 49:07Speaker 1: of your day.
- 49:08Speaker 2: No worries. Thanks so much.
- 49:09Speaker 1: Bye. Damn, that was good.
- 49:13Speaker 3: I really do believe in like, hard work beats talent,
- 49:16Speaker 3: But what if you combine them two?
- 49:17Speaker 1: I just didn't up until now, I was. I was
- 49:19Speaker 1: hitting with that. You know, work smart and not harder.
- 49:22Speaker 3: What if you combine hard smart work?
- 49:27Speaker 1: I've just blown your mind. Yes you have.
- 49:33Speaker 3: Yeah, alright, baddies, we love your stay bad