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Matt Campbell to Penn State? Eugene Rapay on the Cyclones & Tom Kakert talks Hawkeyes · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Pipe down, Coward. Hi.
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Good afternoon, Millery Condon on a Friday, a football Friday
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at that. Welcome the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. Trent Condon, Ken Miller for the
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next couple of hours, talking sports with you.
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Appreciate you starting your afternoon with us.
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Here's what's coming up on our program.
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We will in 20 minutes talk with an Iowa State beat reporter.
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Eugene Repay covers them for the Des Moines Register.
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Hopefully Eugene is able to join us in 20 minutes.
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Apparently, there's a couple of things going on that may prevent
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him from doing so. So we'll talk to Eugene.
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Fingers crossed in 20 minutes. 1240.
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Tom Cacart. He is presently listening to
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coach Ben McCullum. They've got a press conference
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going on as we speak, so we'll get the latest on that.
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I will do that. Coming up at 12:40.
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Bama, Bob, Trent and I will take a look at the championship games
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in college football to kick off the one O clock hour off to
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Vegas where we'll catch up with Mike Palm, VP of operations at
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Circa Sports. Well, we're going to do a little
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NFL kind of preview some of the championship games this morning
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to kick things off, but that seemingly is off the table with
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the news. It's been crazy. 24 hours.
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Trent the Willy, or is he or isn't he?
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Matt Campbell leaving Iowa State to go to Penn State and it now
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looks as though although nothing official yet, but a number of
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national media reporting. I don't know if it's just one
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and then everybody's regurgitating with Pete Nacos is
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how you say his name Nacos from on three said and Dellinger is
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piled on and all of the ones that you would think of the
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cover the sport regurgitating the same finalizing agreement.
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Apparently talks began on Wednesday.
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They were in Ames yesterday. Penn State was and and here we
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are. So I guess just throw it at you.
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What do you think? This from Pete Thamel.
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The sides met in Iowa Thursday night have been looking toward
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an agreement since nothing is signed and there's still a few
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steps remaining for this to come to fruition.
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That's from Pete Thamel 16 minutes ago all.
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Right, so still hope for Iowa State fans.
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There's not over yet some of the things that Franklin was
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required to do. I don't think Campbell would
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embrace with open arms. See that as boosters, Meeting
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with the head coach on game day. A mandatory luncheon with
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boosters on Wednesday. I just don't think that's him in
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a nutshell. But it's Penn State, and more
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importantly or as importantly, it's the Big 10.
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It's the Big 10. There's two conferences that
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rule the roost. One of them is the Big 10.
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The other is the SEC. This is Penn State when they
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come calling. It's 15 years removed from the
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scandal. Matt Campbell, I think, would be
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a fool not to go Trent. I really do.
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There's been involvements with a number of high profile jobs.
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The USC job was his and then whatever happened last minute
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either Lincoln Riley said yes and then Campbell, the papers
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that he had didn't happen. He's been involved in Florida
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State. He's been involved in a lot of
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different places. But this is another one of the
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blue blood jobs that is difficult.
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Even with the mess that has been the last 50 whatever days and
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it's been a mess and it's been an embarrassment, this is still
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a place where you can win a national championship.
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Yeah, without a doubt. No, I don't think it's going to
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happen next year with what's left in the cupboard.
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Look, here's what I was told yesterday.
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I have no idea if it's true. I just want to put this out
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there because this is what I was told when the Franklin stuff
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first went down. The Penn State reached out to
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Campbell's representatives in October, as I'm sure they
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reached out to a lot of coaches in October.
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I'm not saying Matt Campbell got the first call.
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I have no idea, but true to what I think, I believe that Matt
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Campbell's makeup is I don't want to talk to anything to my
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anybody till my season's over. And if that and he's and this is
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what part of it was also part of the sentence.
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And if this removes me from consideration, so be it.
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I'm going to finish this year and then if it's still an
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option, I would listen. That's what I was told going
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back to October. Do we want to start with the
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Penn State part of it, get that out of the way and then get into
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the Iowa State? Part of it, well, there's so
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many layers, right? Right.
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And they, yeah, obviously are intertwined now.
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I think now Penn State went and got Kelsey Anderson and what
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that turned into and what kind of gut punch it would be if Matt
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Campbell elevates Penn State to. I mean, they're a bad
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interception away for playing for a national title.
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Yeah. That's that's how.
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Close This program was. And then the following year on
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the heels. Of that that.
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Pre season #1 for a lot of people.
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Doesn't even see the middle of October the coach that took him
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to that bad pick away from playing for Natty.
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With the Penn State part of it, though, it is one of the few
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places that I think makes a lot of sense.
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Now it's. Different home for him, close to
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home. Absolutely.
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It's different being out there for a couple of games.
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Well, a simple called Croatia. It's a little long.
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It's a beautiful. Camp is it?
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It's a beautiful, beautiful place.
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Getting there sucks. Right.
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You fly near Pittsburgh, right? No, there's what Harrisburg is
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like 90 minutes away. You can fly into State College,
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but you can't take like a charter plane to State College,
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right, because the airport's so small.
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It's like flying into Osage Municipal.
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I mean, it's tiny. No, wait, there's not an Osage
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municipal there. Absolutely is.
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Oh, yeah. My, my uncle used to fly in
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there with his little plate. He's an Air Force guy and he had
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a plate later in life that he flied into.
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But it's a really small place. But in terms of and it's
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different. We've seen the online fan base,
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you've seen the online fan base. You love message boards.
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I spent hours on it yesterday. I had AI had a blast last night.
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They are a different breed. Oh all college fandom is weird.
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Sure it doesn't matter. You know what Penn State fans
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are feeling right now? They don't want to be shiitake.
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Yes, absolutely. Because this is their fear right
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now. Yes Sir.
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Seems like it's going to happen, but.
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We went down this road just two days ago and and then what
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happened if you don't want to be left at the altar once again,
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getting this deep into the process, It's a different kind
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of place. But I think it is a place that
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can work for Matt Campbell with his personality.
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Now, he could have to deal with more big boosters.
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Yeah. Probably so.
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That's the reality of the situation.
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But guess what? I'm sure Ohio State is the top
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of his list. You'd have to do that there.
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You'd have to do that in Michigan.
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You'd have to do that at Notre Dame.
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That is the reality. When you move into those waters,
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you're dealing with a completely different environment than you
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do at Iowa State. And I think, though, the way
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that they're built, he'll be OK. Is he going to have to do more
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functions? Is he going to have the run that
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he had at Iowa State and basically saying exactly what he
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wants and this is what I'm going to do and I'm not going to meet
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with boosters. No, you're going to have to do
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some different things. But in order to get that job, in
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order to get to the mountaintop, a place that you're not going to
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get at Iowa State, those are the things, those are the corners
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you have to cut. Those are the changes that you
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have to make if you're Matt Campbell.
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All right, there's Penn State, boom to the side.
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What a good punch. It is Trent.
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Look what this guy's done for this program.
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Look what he's done, what he's. Done he He's made this.
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Program, yes. Let's be honest, the Dan
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McCartney, it was a nice run and getting them out of the
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wilderness that was, but it's nothing in comparison.
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To this and. In this environment of the new
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Big 12, but for the first time in 100 years, they're actually
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on a level playing field. They're finally at a place where
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week in and week out we can compete in this league.
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That was never the case in football, never the case in
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football until the new Big 12. And you have the guy.
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You have a guy that feels like he's going to be a lifer.
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Could have been. Could have been, but you know
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what, maybe he's not bored, but maybe he wants a different
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challenge and he's taken Iowa State in some ways as far as
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they can go. I get it was the COVID year, but
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for crying out loud, playing the Fiesta Bowl and won a Fiesta
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Bowl. He's taking this programs to
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heights that they've never seen they played.
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Oklahoma in a Big 12 championship, yes, and had
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opportunities in that game against Oklahoma.
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Oklahoma as we know him, not a diminished Oklahoma, not John
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Blake's Oklahoma, real Oklahoma. And he was there in that game.
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He did it twice, winning years 8 out of 10 seasons at Iowa State
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when he was hired A decade ago. If I would have told you that.
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Oh, come on. Yeah, come on, I was staying.
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They'll have some good years. It'll be a few 6 and sixes it.
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Might be an 8 and four you'll get to.
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November trying to figure out if they can find six wins in the
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remaining three games. They only need 2.
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You know that that that's. Been a a talker.
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For for decades, 30 years, absolutely for.
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You it's. So who's next?
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I mean the one name. That pops into mind instantly,
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and I love the fact that he actually left Iowa State and
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went to the NFL, and that's Nate Shieldhouse.
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Because when Nate Shield House's name came up pursuant in
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conjunction with an Iowa State topic, he was the guy that got
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in living rooms Campbell closed. But it was Nate Shield House who
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is as important to recruiting the players to Iowa State as
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anybody. Now he's been gone.
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For the last couple years and again, I love the fact that
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he's, you know, spread his wings and gone on and learned what
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it's like to in other programs at the highest level of the NF.
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I think this would make a ton of sense.
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An offensive guy, a great recruiter.
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Sure, there's going to be other names out there, but I certainly
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would have to think that if I'm Jamie Pollard.
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That that would be one of the first guys that I would reach
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out to. Top of my list is Jason Eck, the
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head coach at New Mexico. Makes sense?
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Who did a tremendous job this year at New Mexico?
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What has been their? Final record, they were 93.
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Were they that? Yeah.
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And it actually works out well. They should be playing in the
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conference championship game. They're not, but it works out
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perfectly that they're not. Look at his connections.
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He's a Wisconsin guy. Where's Jamie from?
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Wisconsin, yeah. Offensive line, how do you win
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at Iowa State? How do you win at a program like
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this? You're good up front.
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And that is an opportunity with Jason Eck that has done it and
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two difficult places when he took Idaho and got them back to.
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If you're an old timer, do you remember watching the One AA
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playoffs in Idaho? Oh, yeah, they're really good.
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Remember, they went to the FBS. They basically got kicked out of
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the FBS. They went back down.
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They had to cut a bunch of scholarship guys.
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It was a disaster. He went there and he.
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Was there the whole time or he got there and.
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He got there and changed it. Yeah, because this was like 15
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years ago that they're. Old Is he late?
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40s early 48. He's 4848 that at New Mexico.
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I don't think it'd been bull eligible in a decade.
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He gets them to 9 and three in the first year.
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You saw what they did against UCLA early in the season.
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That's the top of the list for me.
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But Mike in Waterloo, he's got some candidates.
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OK, let's get. To him, your phone lines are up.
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If you want to opine, here's your opportunity to do so.
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We got 5 or 6 minutes. I might go ahead.
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Hey, what's going on? You know my 2 leading
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candidates? Are you just?
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Yeah, are the 1 you just mentioned.
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The recruiter. That went to LA and the dark
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horse. I say get Lavar is his name
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Lavar Woods from Iowa. I think he'd be a great hire.
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What do you guys think? I mean, the guy's a genius on
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special team. So what's our what's our, what's
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what, what, what are we good at special teams?
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You know, I think you'd make a great coach.
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And and one more thing. What about this basketball team?
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Have you ever seen shooters like that?
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I can't wait to watch tomorrow at 11:00 in the morning when
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they'll take on the number one team in the country.
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Kind of gets over shadowed by all the other.
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I was crazy. I know, But you know Campbell,
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you know he was not good with the the you know he was, he's
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not very good with the press. You know he never did.
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What do you? Ever.
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He was very guarded. He was very guarded, very
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guarded. And he's going to hate it out of
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Penn State. But you know, they got Kale
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Sanderson. You put those two personalities,
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there ain't much there, you know?
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There's $10 million there. Well, I know, but I, I just hate
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that when they leave Iowa State, I think that's a great job, Iowa
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State. Or because been a great job for
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one person? Yeah, it has.
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Yeah. Well, McCartney turned it
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around. I got even credit for that.
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Mike, thanks for the call. Go ahead.
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Finish your point. Bye.
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Bye. Bye.
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Bye. Yeah.
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Fascinating stuff. Eck, Huh.
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I could buy that. I could see that.
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I could connect those dots. Trent Condon, let's go to
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Thunder. Joe.
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Hi, Joe. How are you?
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Hey, good afternoon. They need to hire Mark Daganol.
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No, just kidding. Hey, I've got the perfect guy.
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They need to interview. At least got to get an
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interview. I've known him since the 7th
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grade. He's been a winner since Joe
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Woodley. I like Joe Woodley a lot.
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I really do. I'm a fan of the Woodley family,
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a Grandview. What they did there.
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Obviously the Drake season came to an end, but they didn't miss
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a beat over on Forest Ave. I'm a big fan, played there,
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obviously played for McCartney, yeah.
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Yeah, you got, you got he at least he at least got a merit
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interview because you look at it, he will keep, I hate to say
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this. He could come out of value and
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that money you could take and roll it over into nil.
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I mean, you can't, you can't give a guy like him $20 million,
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you know, for a big school like that.
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But you can start them out a little bit smaller and see what
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happens for five years. And look, you got money, you got
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a home, you got a central Iowa pedigree.
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It'll get the fans excited, hey. And he's one of them.
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He's one of them. And he's a winner.
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And we've seen guys that have transitioned from places.
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Well, we just saw it here in Des Moines, McCallum.
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Oh, it's not going to work. You can't go from D2 and people
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say, well, you can't go from non scholarship football to why not?
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You're a football coach. He's a football coach and he got
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funds. They played at Iowa State.
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Lot of things, yeah. Phone call on the list, probably
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in the list. I hope so.
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Yeah, I hope so. Or is it a quick car?
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Here's the other thing. Do they play in their bowl game?
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They better K State Didn't did didn't K State back.
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Up. They said they were going to.
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I don't know if that's official. I hate that.
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Yeah, I do too. I do.
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But apparently it was the players that voted not to play
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in the bowl game. I mean, on Sunday, you find out
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you're going to Memphis. Let's take a couple a couple
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more. Here, let me find it.
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Hello, Chad. How are you?
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Good. Matt Campbell, you know,
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conversation, you know, first you got to get him with flowers.
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You know what he did at Iowa State that, you know, winning,
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beating Oregon, COVID gear or not, you know, we understand all
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those things, 8-9 wins, we understand all those things.
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But at the end of the day, he you're going to a conference
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that has Ohio State, that has Michigan, it has USC, it has
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Oregon, and the list can go on and on and on in these in these
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adjectives that he likes to push out in the media that that that
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crap's not going to work. No, it's it's more than he just
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wants to have a close team. What are they?
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Well. The.
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Most Together team, yeah, that won't work at them.
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They want to hear championships. When he went eight or nine games
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at Iowa State, he's a guy. Well, you win 10 games at Penn
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State, you get fired, you know, and it's, it's hilarious to me.
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I, the Big 12 in basketball, it's a phenomenal conference.
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You look at the Big 12 and you know, people talk about, well,
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there's no Oregon, I'm sorry, there's no Oklahoma, there's no
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Texas, there's no Nebraska, there's no Texas A&M, there's no
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Missouri. This conference is winnable.
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And to be honest, I think really you put in, Campbell leaves, you
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grab a coach, I'm sorry, but the Big 12, you throw a name in the
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hat. Anybody can win this conference
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in football. So I, you know, I understand
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what Matt Campbell's doing. Kind of look at Fred Horberg
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leaving, going to the Bulls. I get it.
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You want to win at the highest level and I get those things.
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I'm trying to parallel these two together, but sometimes there
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has to be a what is good. The situation that you're in and
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Iowa State with Kimball, again, I can't say enough.
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You win eight games. Everyone's like it's like a
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party. I mean, good luck to him.
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But like, like I said, I think any coach coming to Iowa State,
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I think Iowa State's going to be fine.
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You guys have a good day. Yeah, thanks.
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Appreciate the call. Rob is next.
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Hi, Rob, How are you? Hey guys, how we doing today
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doing? Fine, what's on your mind?
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Good. Hey, I wanted to throw out a
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name, but I also just listened to that last caller.
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I kind of want to go the opposite direction.
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Is he, you know, you look at Matt Campbell over the years,
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he's had a lot of big wins. It's not like he's Matt Rule at
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Nebraska, whose name came up in the early stages higher.
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And I don't know how serious that was if that was just a
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rumor mill or you know, how Internet gossip is.
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But what didn't that rule? What's he actually accomplished
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as a as a coach? He hasn't knocked off the teams.
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Now, Campbell's teams are always competitive.
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He's beaten Oklahoma. He struggled a little more
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against Texas, but he was competitive with Texas.
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I think it's a great hire. And I'm going to say this, too,
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I think every Iowa State fan ought to be.
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You know, it's sad to see him go, no doubt.
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But when you come in and you take over a program that's down
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and you can sustain where you go to bowl games year after year.
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And I realize they had it down year a few years ago, I think,
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listen, I hope that knocks it out of the park at Penn State.
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And I don't think he will. You know, the talent level just
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isn't quite there at Iowa State that it is at some of these
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bigger schools. But anyway, I'm going to throw
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out a name to you. What is it, Dan Mullen.
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Dan Mullen. You know the heck of a job he
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has. Or to let him go or Yeah, or to
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let him go. Mississippi State didn't they
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let him go and he's done a decent job there.
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So I'm going to throw that out there if it comes to fruition.
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And then the other name, I was thinking, you already mentioned
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it, Kenny said. Shield House, I think both those
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guys got to be on the shortlist. But that's my two cents, guys.
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Good to hear from you, Rob. Thanks.
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You have a good weekend. Couple more calls and we got to
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get a break. We will get to Eugene Repay who
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covers the program coming up here in about 5 minutes.
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Jim, welcome to the program. How are you?
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I'm good. Great.
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How are you guys today? What's up?
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Hey, I got a kind of a dark horse name for the Iowa State
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gig, a guy named Tommy Reese, who's a quarterback coach for
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the Cleveland Browns. Notre Dame quarterback coach B
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Kelly is offense coordinator, Bama quarterback coach under
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Saban. I think he'd be a wonderful
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young hire for him. Interesting name, I appreciate
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the call. I didn't.
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I didn't realize. So he was with Saban.
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I don't. Remember.
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He was, yeah. Interesting. 2023.
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Good stuff. Thanks, Jim.
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Here's Penn State's for yuks and giggles.
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Here's their schedule next year. Not without the dates,
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obviously. Their non con is Marshall Temple
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in Buffalo. They're at Maryland, at
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Michigan, at Northwestern home games in Jesus.
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Go Matt Campbell. Go now.
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Minnesota, Purdue, Rutgers, USC, Wisconsin, Washington. 9:00 and
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3:00. No Ohio State.
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No Ohio State, No Oregon, No Oregon.
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Got to go to Washington. Got to go to Michigan.
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Marshall, pretty good. Got to go to Temple.
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Be a lot of Penn State fans there.
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Jerry is up real quick. Let me put the button there.
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Hi, Jerry. How are you?
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Jerry. Yes, Sir, you're on.
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OK. Hey, I just want to leave Lavar
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Lewds alone because I'm hoping that Kirk Burns replacement will
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be him. A lot of people are.
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And then I just curious what the new recruiting class that was
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just signed on Wednesday. They can leave, they can leave.
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That's exactly what what's going to happen there.
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Yeah. Thanks, Jerry.
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Appreciate the call. You have the entire roster,
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Scott. What is it 7 days?
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I think that. Was 30 day one?
19:33
Is it 30? One day window.
19:34
They've got the windows open as soon as he signs on the dotted
19:37
line. The whole recruiting class,
19:38
everybody on Iowa State's existing roster.
19:41
I would think at the top of that list would be Marcus Neal.
19:44
If I was shopping, yes. You know what?
19:46
This can sound harsh. Would it be the worst thing if
19:51
Rocco left? Clean slate, clean slate or
19:56
Campbell be more interested in I'm not saying.
19:58
He's going to follow him. Or would he be more interested
20:01
in bringing Alex Mansky with him?
20:03
Well, if I'm Campbell, I think I bring Mansky just because of his
20:06
eligibility, if nothing else. And that's one of the reasons
20:09
that leads me to my maybe it wouldn't be the worst thing if
20:12
Roccobeck did leave. Eugene Repay is next.
20:15
Wish you had more time for more calls.
20:17
I know the boys in the afternoon are completely clearing their
20:21
slate from three until or from 2 rather until 5:00 off the bench.
20:26
Miller and Condon, you're glad you're with us on a Football
20:28
Fridays the Hours sports radio network.
20:32
Oh, today's not the day for that song.
20:34
Trent, this is a happy. Song it is a happy yes yeah get
20:38
some positive vibes going positive.
20:40
Think of those great memories, those great wins.
20:42
Oh, that's the way. OK, All right.
20:45
I don't believe that the the cyclone nations are going to
20:48
want to buy. That no.
20:49
They're not buying what you're selling just yet.
20:51
It's it's a blow. It's a blow.
20:55
Yes, it is. Eugene repay.
20:56
Des Moines Register covers Iowa State Eugene Trenton.
20:59
Ken, guessing your day got a whole lot busier.
21:02
I know that the at the register in newspapers as opposed to
21:05
sports talk where we can say basically anything.
21:08
You guys have to be very careful with what's going on.
21:12
What are you hearing? What are you guys?
21:14
Have you reported anything yet regarding Matt Campbell?
21:18
Yeah, they're they've definitely met.
21:20
He's definitely met with Penn State officials.
21:23
It's obviously nothing, nothing official yet to report either
21:28
way. But the, the rumor mill is
21:29
running rampant and we're we're going to wait and see.
21:32
But obviously it it's been really kicking off and taking
21:36
off since yesterday. You look at the situation, the
21:41
financials continue to come up here.
21:43
He was paid $5,000,000 a year. In today's day and age, that is
21:46
towards the bottom of the power force structure.
21:48
We know Iowa State University as a whole, the athletic department
21:51
much better than it used to be, but still a long ways behind.
21:54
And certainly even their brethren, the BYU and the Texas
21:56
Techs and the TCU of the world, the way that they spend.
22:00
Is there anything that can be done or is this just the new
22:02
reality of Iowa State? And financially, they're not
22:04
going to be able to compete, not with just the Penn States and
22:07
Ohio States and Floridas of the world, but even in their own
22:10
conference that they're going to lag behind.
22:13
Yeah, To me, honestly, I don't think that this is much about
22:17
salary for for Matt Campbell. I don't think it's really about
22:19
the money. I think it's more so kind of the
22:21
resources, you know, obviously Penn State, they have a huge
22:27
alumni slash donor slash, you know, fan base and they they
22:32
have more financial offerings in terms of resources and NIL and
22:36
things like that. So that's something that
22:39
Campbell's going to have to consider.
22:40
But when I look at, you know, if Campbell's going to leave,
22:43
whether it's for money, I don't think he would leave for a
22:46
bigger paycheck. I think it would just be, you
22:48
know, if there's yeah, if there's alignment, if there's,
22:52
you know, from top to bottom and, and just kind of that
22:55
financial support and, and everything that he needs to to
22:58
build a championship contender. Yeah, and it's the Big 10 after
23:01
all, at the end of the day, which I would have to think tips
23:03
the scales as well in Penn State's favour when it comes to
23:07
that. Well, Eugene, last thing on this
23:09
because they do want to talk basketball.
23:10
You saw you were there in person for the players there, a
23:13
tournament. Want to pick your brain on that?
23:15
Obviously Purdue Iowa State collide 10 versus 1 tomorrow at
23:19
Mackie, which is a massive basketball game that's competing
23:22
completely overshadowed with this Campbell news now and
23:25
understandably so. But if there is an announcement,
23:28
Eugene as the register been able to maybe 0 in on when it may
23:33
happen. Official announcement from Iowa
23:35
State or from Penn State and who would make the announcement
23:37
first? Yeah, Travis Hines and Tommy
23:40
Birch are actually back in the Des Moines area, really here to
23:45
the ground, really working on it and names and things like that.
23:48
I'm actually on my way to Purdue.
23:49
Oh, nice. Right now, yeah.
23:52
So they they would definitely be better suited in terms of, you
23:56
know, when and and when to respect some sort of sort of
23:59
break. Personally, if you ask me, I
24:01
wouldn't be surprised if it bubbled or if the bubble popped
24:04
either today or tomorrow. But it feels like sooner than
24:07
later. Basketball, this team, what they
24:13
did shooting the basketball, it can't be replicated.
24:17
It's nothing. To be from earlier in the week,
24:20
yeah, I mean. Take us, take us inside the
24:23
building. Because Ken and I, we watched
24:24
for a while, both of us, but it became such a laugher what it
24:28
was like inside the building, just one shot after, it didn't
24:31
matter how ugly the shot was, it hoisted it up.
24:33
They just were finding the bottom of the net.
24:35
What it was like being in the building for that onslaught that
24:38
they gave. Oh man, when when you look at
24:41
the second-half of the Syracuse game when they were already
24:44
dialed in, they were shooting over 70% in that game itself.
24:47
And you thought, OK, you know, that's a great half.
24:50
No way. You know, you see shooting
24:52
numbers like that. How can you sustain or replicate
24:54
that? And now they come in against
24:56
Alcorn State, drop 132 points, hit another program record 22,
25:02
three made 3 pointers and it was just absolutely electric, one
25:05
shot after the other. It might have been the one game
25:07
where I felt like, you know, usually when you see a blowout
25:09
or you see a route, the crowd kind of gets a little bored.
25:12
They they kind of take it for granted.
25:14
And then, you know, some people leave early.
25:15
But just with the way that they were shooting the ball, everyone
25:17
was just on their feet. Every shot that went in was just
25:21
as exciting as the one that came before it.
25:23
And Damarian Bateman topped it all off for that final three
25:26
pointer with less than a minute to go.
25:27
And that the place went nuts. And you would have thought that
25:29
it was still, in the first few minutes of the game, just never
25:33
seen a shooting display like that.
25:35
And honestly, it doesn't matter who the opponent is.
25:37
Like to put up those kinds of numbers or that kind of shooting
25:40
performance. And that was just impressive all
25:42
around. Yeah, no doubt about it.
25:44
Well, Purdue tomorrow, obviously a massive test now.
25:47
I see. I saw that to TJ, I think met
25:50
with the media this morning by the looks of of Twitter.
25:53
Correct me if I'm wrong there. Obviously, I know you're on your
25:55
way to the game tomorrow, but it sounds as though Lipsy is is
25:59
going to be quote that proverbial game time decision.
26:02
He is practicing, did practice today and may play tomorrow.
26:06
What are you hearing on the as far as that storyline, Eugene?
26:10
Yeah, not only Tim Lipsy, Dominic Nelson too, was also
26:13
practicing. It feels like those two guys are
26:16
focal game time decisions. But I wouldn't be surprised if
26:19
one or both of them play tomorrow just given the
26:21
magnitude of the matchup. You know, you're playing at
26:23
Purdue. It's the number one team in the
26:25
country. You know, it's one thing to sit
26:28
out for Alcorn State, but it feels like this game is just
26:31
kind of been circled. So I wouldn't be surprised if I
26:34
saw Lipsy and Nelson playing just given the magnitude
26:37
matchup. And then you got Iowa next week.
26:39
So this is this is a big week for all for them and and for a
26:42
guy like David Lipsy, I don't know how you keep them off or
26:45
you know, if anyone can even keep them off.
26:47
Do you introduce the new football coach?
26:49
Halftime is Psyhawk next week, huh?
26:52
Right. We'll see.
26:55
Oh. Man, that yeah, they could.
26:56
They could put you in charge of marketing.
26:58
That would get the people going. That's for sure.
26:59
Got to have that guy in place by next Thursday to make that
27:02
happen. If you look at Penn, Purdue and
27:06
this Purdue squad, obviously they got Braden Smith.
27:09
He gets all the headlines. But Kaufman Wren is tremendous
27:11
inside and they got a couple of more big guys, as they do
27:14
seemingly every single year. It's Oscar Klaf who comes in out
27:17
of the transfer portal. They get him from South Dakota
27:19
State, but the other guy, the state.
27:21
Was after him, right? That's the kid, yeah.
27:23
Is Daniel Jacobson another over 7 foot guy?
27:26
He's 7 foot 4. He's playing, you know, 1520
27:29
minutes a game. They got another one of these.
27:31
So Iowa State defensively, what do you do to combat that?
27:34
And foul trouble obviously is going to be a big part of that.
27:36
Also, do you anticipate we're going to have to see Plato or
27:40
Mulder, one of those two guys? Maybe both of those guys have to
27:43
play more minutes just because of the matchup tomorrow.
27:46
Yeah, that wouldn't shock me at all, especially Dom Plato, just
27:49
with the way that he's been trending in recent weeks.
27:51
It seems like TJ Altenberg has been trusting him more and more,
27:54
and he's been getting more and more medicine.
27:56
He looks to be more comfortable there.
27:57
Obviously, Purdue will be a much bigger test than what he's seen
28:00
against the likes of Syracuse or Alcorn State.
28:03
But he helped his own a little bit against Saint John's.
28:06
And I felt like that that was a good front court challenge for
28:09
Iowa State for them. I feel like the key for this
28:12
game will be to win on the inside, on both ends defensively
28:16
and you know, offensively, but also just on the glass.
28:19
I feel like the rebounding numbers and just the offensive
28:22
rebounding rate, second chance points that I would say has been
28:25
able to put up in recent weeks has been under discussed.
28:28
I mean, obviously a three-point, we'll get the headlines and
28:31
their ability to generate turnovers and fuel their offense
28:34
has been big. But I think that this is going
28:36
to need to be an all hands on deck effort on the glass.
28:39
And we saw how crucial their rebounding efforts was against
28:42
beating Saint Johns. And this reminds me of another
28:45
type of game like that. I mean, produce can be physical.
28:47
They're going to be tough. Braden Smith, like you
28:49
mentioned, he's an all American point guard.
28:52
But that front court is just so loaded and stacked as always.
28:55
And for our state, it's going to be to set the tone inside and
28:58
then we'll see how the rest of the chips fall.
29:00
But I think it's all going to start in the glass and in the
29:02
paint. Blake Buchanan, stay out of file
29:05
foul trouble. That's got to be high in the
29:07
list. Hey, Eugene, thanks for doing
29:09
this. Appreciate it.
29:09
Safe trip over there. We'll read your coverage of the
29:12
game tomorrow at desmoinesregister.com.
29:15
desmoinesregister.com. You, Travis and Tommy do a
29:17
terrific job in the sports department as well as the guys
29:21
on the Hawkeye beat. So thank you.
29:22
Appreciate you coming on, Eugene.
29:24
Appreciate you guys and keep refreshing Twitter because who
29:27
knows when something will come. Yeah, indeed.
29:29
Thanks pal. Good to talk to you.
29:30
Talk to you next week Eugene Repay as we check in on Iowa
29:33
State point spread Trent for Purdue Iowa State tomorrow is
29:36
it's up at FanDuel and to DraftKings that number is. 6.
29:41
DraftKings is 5 1/2. Purdue favored 5 1/2.
29:45
FanDuel 4 1/2. 11:00 tomorrow morning.
29:50
All right, Tom Caicard on the Hawks next.
29:52
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Let's get to Tom Kegger at hawkeyereport.com.
31:49
He joins us part of On Three. Boy, busy week for on three,
31:52
Your Penn State boards blowing up.
31:54
Seals boards been blowing up as well.
31:56
Good to talk to you. How are you?
31:59
Yeah, it's been a every day we get an e-mail about it's it's
32:03
been a record day for on three really.
32:06
Yeah, that's been, that's been really good that yeah, I'm the
32:10
guy Pete Nakos is on fire coaching stuff.
32:16
So yeah, looks like, looks like we'll have a new face on the
32:20
opposite sideline for the Seihawk game next year.
32:24
So Yep, that'll be that'll be interesting.
32:27
And I don't think I will place Penn State until like 27 or 28,
32:32
is that right? Wow.
32:34
Yeah. So, well, we'll see Matt
32:36
Campbell for a bit. No, sounds like it.
32:38
Well, you just listened to Ben McCollum.
32:40
What the what? I guess maybe what was his
32:42
biggest take away from the Michigan State game, Tom.
32:47
He felt they got really stagnant on the offensive end of the
32:50
floor and that really hurt him. And it's like need to move more,
32:56
need to cut more, need to. Everybody kind of stood and
32:59
watched. And so that's going to be the
33:03
big thing for them. I would expect they're going to
33:05
move much better against Maryland.
33:07
And the other thing they've got to do is rebound the ball better
33:10
because Maryland will rebound the ball and there's a lot of
33:14
teams in the Big 10. They're going to rebound the
33:15
ball because that's what the Big 10 does.
33:17
And, and that was one of the big question marks coming into this
33:22
season, right? And this team rebound with the
33:24
big boys. And thus far, just based on the
33:28
one game, again, you're going up against one of the best
33:31
rebounding teams in the country. So you have to put it in that
33:35
framework. But they did not pass that test.
33:38
And now the test of Maryland coming up this weekend, a
33:41
Maryland team. I'm pretty good this year.
33:43
Buzz in his first year, Buzz Williams, longtime coach across
33:45
college basketball, taking over some familiar faces, some
33:48
transfers from the Big 10 that are on that team.
33:51
Still there's no must win on December 6th.
33:54
But it kind of feels like a must win, doesn't it?
33:55
I mean, they've started O and two so many times in these early
33:58
Big 10 games. This is a winnable one at
34:00
Carver. Need to put this one in the win
34:02
column. Especially when you know, what's
34:05
coming up on Thursday with the trip dames, because you know,
34:09
that place is going to be on tilt.
34:14
You know, they'll they'll be fired up for that, for that
34:17
game. So that's, you know, I've
34:21
already kind of put that in the out and we'll see if they, you
34:23
know, never know. But it's just Iowa State's
34:26
really good. So they, yeah, this is, you hate
34:30
to say must win early December, but I think for the fan base to
34:36
just pay attention to this team, you got to win Saturday because
34:40
otherwise the fan base is just going to check out on on this
34:43
team and like, oh, well, OK. So hopefully they get a good
34:46
crowd. Hopefully the threat of snow on
34:49
Saturday night doesn't spook people.
34:51
So we'll see. Yeah, it's supposed to, I guess
34:54
right around 6:00, but who knows.
34:56
Although I got to be honest, the weather forecasters are way more
34:59
accurate than back in the day, right?
35:00
They seemingly able to pinpoint these things unfortunately, and
35:04
most times they're right when you want them to be wrong.
35:07
Well, we'll see where this goes. So Tom, let's let's go to
35:10
football When the announcement comes out at some point in the
35:14
you know, the couple of hours following the actual playoff
35:17
teams being announced, I was going to get their bowl
35:20
destination rely quest seems like a most logical, but what
35:25
are a couple of other options? Is Vegas still a possibility or
35:29
is it seem like Ben you'd be if you'd fall off your chair if
35:32
they're not in Tampa? I'm kind of in Fallout off the
35:37
chair if they're not Tampa. I had somebody who's who knows
35:41
things tell me this week it was about 90 to 95% Tampa just you
35:47
just can never discount like Vegas, but they can't go to
35:51
Orlando. Big 10s kind of told them you
35:53
can't they're not going there again third time and you know
35:57
what, 4-5 years to Orlando and can't go to can't go to
36:03
Nashville. So it's, you know, it's one of
36:06
the two and I think they're probably headed to Iowa.
36:10
Hasn't been to, you know, it's so weird.
36:11
Iowa hasn't been to Tampa in seven years, which is crazy to
36:14
think about, really. It was their home away for home.
36:17
It felt like seemingly every other year for quite a while and
36:20
hasn't been the case here lately.
36:21
Tampa, I know you media guys, you beat reporters.
36:24
You guys love that place too. Stomp Supper Club and Ibore City
36:27
and. And Bramble Camps told me some
36:29
stories as he's been joining me weekly on the Lockdown Hawkeyes
36:32
podcast. You guys have some stories from
36:34
Tampa, it sounds like. Oh.
36:36
My God. The guy at the bar in Media
36:38
Center. We could ride a Todd and I could
36:41
write a book on the adventures that we've had in in Tampa.
36:46
So yeah, it's, it's been a good place.
36:49
John James, the guy who runs the the hospitality room legend.
36:54
He is a legend. Yeah, He's he's the best.
36:58
No, I remember well. Hey, when we look at the bowl
37:01
game opt outs, it's a huge part of the lexicon.
37:03
Now when we're talking about bowl games, is there anybody
37:06
that you think would make sense? I think of Jennings, Dunker's
37:10
been banged up all year. Both Stevens has been banged up.
37:12
Both those guys are going to have opportunities at the next
37:14
level. Cohen Enschriner left the last
37:16
game with an injury. Short of the injury part,
37:19
anything else though that would make sense to you guys that
37:21
potentially opt out? We just lost.
37:23
I must have been too good of a question.
37:25
That may stump them, but it's a fair question, Trent, because
37:28
this is the time of year. Yeah, the the offensive lineman,
37:33
you're right. They've got a pretty important
37:35
job interview coming up at some point late February in
37:40
Indianapolis. One would assume that they will
37:41
get their opportunity to go. There so we'll.
37:44
Reconnect with Tom and find out what he thinks or who whom he
37:47
thinks may be on that list. As far as opt outs, let's get
37:51
him back in here. Tom Cakert rejoins us.
37:53
Tom, did you hear the entire question?
37:56
Just about like potential opt. Out.
37:57
Yeah, I don't. Really think anybody is going to
38:00
opt out. I don't.
38:01
I'd be really surprised if somebody opted out.
38:04
Just, I think there's, especially along the offensive
38:07
line, I think those guys want to finish the job.
38:10
You know, they kind of want to. That's a pretty tight group.
38:14
And I just don't see like one guy, like I'm done, you know, I
38:19
just don't see it. Could be, could be wrong, but I
38:23
just don't see. I know some their agents are
38:25
probably going to buy some, hey, maybe you should just opt out
38:28
and not do it. But I just, I don't see that
38:31
happening with the Iowa team. Guys like Kaden Wegen, for
38:34
instance, they're not saying he's going to opt out, but
38:36
usually we hear these guys find somebody and it's normally in
38:40
the state of Florida to prepare for the draft.
38:43
Have you heard anything along those lines, Tom?
38:46
I have not usually ask those guys during the bowl prep.
38:50
When we get them, we'll probably ask them like, hey, what's your
38:53
plans after the bowl game? Where you going to go train?
38:56
And a lot of guys come back to Iowa City.
38:58
But there's a lot of guys now that used to be kind of, I
39:02
wouldn't say mandatory, but it was, it was definitely helpful
39:06
that they would, that they would stay in Iowa City and do all
39:09
their training. Now a lot of the guys will go
39:11
for, you know, January and part of February and until I, you
39:17
know, they have until sometime in March when they have pro day
39:23
and then they'll come back and then they'll train the rest of
39:25
the time in Iowa City. But that's, you know, I, it just
39:30
depends, but that's kind of what a lot of guys are doing these
39:32
days, especially the guys are going to get drafted.
39:36
But you know, some of the guys that might not get drafted,
39:39
they'll just stay in Iowa City and train.
39:41
Signing day earlier in the week. Our last 30 seconds with you.
39:44
Tom, your favorite prospect from this class has just signed.
39:48
Favorite name is Hudson, Parliament.
39:51
That's awesome, yeah. Yeah, just a great name.
39:54
I mean, and and he's like, he's like he's both Stevens is who he
39:59
is. He's just both Stevens.
40:01
It's just a big mauler sets all kind of weight room records and
40:05
everything he's going to be. Fun to watch.
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I'd also the the Jack Janda, the foot 5 kid from £250, that's
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Logan Lee. He's Logan Lee.
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He's going to be a deep tackle. Wants to be a deep tackle, so
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watch him. Good stuff, Tom Caker,
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hawkeyereport.com, part of On Three Media.
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Tom, thanks for doing this. We will track you down next
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Friday. Thanks, Tom.
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Awesome. Thanks guys.
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Appreciate it. Tom Caker, hawkeyereport.com All
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right, Bama, Bob Trenton. I will take a look at some of
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the A championship games being played this week and we'll head
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to Las Vegas, catch up with Mike Palm, we'll make some picks.
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We've got an hour to go. It's Miller and Condon.
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We're talking sports with you on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.