Latest / Earn Your Leisure / Study Hall: Scarcity Marketing: Lessons from Nintendo and Elmo
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- 1:51Speaker 3: I have a two part question. But the first part
- 1:53Speaker 3: is can you really describe that? Because everybody knows the
- 1:57Speaker 3: scarcy model. You just you put less product out right,
- 2:00Speaker 3: drive up to demand. But I think there's some more,
- 2:02Speaker 3: there's other elements that actually make that. It's not like
- 2:05Speaker 3: you can just make ten water bottles and say I
- 2:07Speaker 3: only have ten water bottle, I'm a charge one hundred
- 2:09Speaker 3: dollars for them, right, Like, from your understanding and working
- 2:12Speaker 3: inside of it, what made the scarcity model work when
- 2:15Speaker 3: you guys were doing.
- 2:16Speaker 4: It, Yeah, it was specifically when Nintendo, or just in general.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Just in general, but Inintendo, let's talk about that since
- 2:22Speaker 3: you were in it.
- 2:23Speaker 4: Yeah, so we were in experiential marketing. We travel from
- 2:26Speaker 4: city to city putting up like these literally bringing the
- 2:29Speaker 4: video game to life, like that was my job, right,
- 2:32Speaker 4: and we were doing that, but the supply in the store,
- 2:35Speaker 4: the product wasn't available. So like the hype gets built
- 2:38Speaker 4: up of like where can I find this thing? The
- 2:41Speaker 4: value gets built up of, like where I will pay
- 2:44Speaker 4: above what it's asking for to get this thing because
- 2:47Speaker 4: I've experienced it.
- 2:48Speaker 1: And so so you.
- 2:49Speaker 3: Were promoting a product with no product available. Correct, The
- 2:53Speaker 3: promotion was done with no even release date.
- 2:58Speaker 4: No, the product was out, you just couldn't find it.
- 3:01Speaker 4: But we like our teams, and this was one of
- 3:04Speaker 4: many teams all across the United States. We were out
- 3:07Speaker 4: every single day literally creating the portions of the video
- 3:10Speaker 4: game that you could walk into. That is very commonly
- 3:13Speaker 4: known now, ten fifteen years ago, it was unheard of.
- 3:16Speaker 4: This is also like social media was just becoming like
- 3:19Speaker 4: a business utility, but it was like, how do I
- 3:21Speaker 4: create my product and turn it into an experience? If
- 3:24Speaker 4: people have an immersive experience as opposed to just being
- 3:27Speaker 4: in the isle of best buy and trying the product.
- 3:30Speaker 4: It's a completely different compelling moment that also makes you
- 3:33Speaker 4: have a buying decision more expensive than you would usually have.
- 3:37Speaker 4: Right games were like maybe forty to fifty dollars. At
- 3:40Speaker 4: the time that we fit board, I believe it was
- 3:41Speaker 4: about three hundred dollars, So it was a different gap
- 3:44Speaker 4: in the buying decision. What I'm telling you now is
- 3:48Speaker 4: I didn't realize what was happening until I read the
- 3:50Speaker 4: book The Psychology of Influence. And so we were traveling
- 3:55Speaker 4: all across the country setting up these activations, and no
- 3:59Speaker 4: one could buy it in this door. And so by
- 4:01Speaker 4: the time Christmas comes around, it's like, hey, hey, fever, like,
- 4:05Speaker 4: everyone's trying to find this product no matter where, they'll
- 4:08Speaker 4: find it, and they'll ever they'll pay triple and double
- 4:10Speaker 4: for the product. We see the same thing happening in
- 4:12Speaker 4: the sneaker industry, right like, people will pay way above
- 4:15Speaker 4: the fifty or one hundred dollars because they cannot find
- 4:19Speaker 4: it anywhere else. And so what I learned in the
- 4:22Speaker 4: Psychology of Influence is the first time that they saw
- 4:24Speaker 4: that happen was with the Elmo doll. Elmo took on
- 4:28Speaker 4: me Elmo, and they the marketing industry and product industries
- 4:33Speaker 4: were kind of conspiring to do this because they realized
- 4:35Speaker 4: they could get parents to buy two products as opposed
- 4:38Speaker 4: to one. So if I'm a kid and I want
- 4:41Speaker 4: this we Fit or I want this Elmo doll the
- 4:43Speaker 4: entire year Christmas comes, as a parent, you have promised
- 4:47Speaker 4: them that you get to the store, you can't find
- 4:49Speaker 4: it anywhere, So you know what, you buy them the
- 4:51Speaker 4: next best thing. And then what those companies were doing
- 4:53Speaker 4: is is right after Christmas, it's flood. Almos were flooded
- 4:57Speaker 4: on the shelf. You can find it any and everywhere,
- 4:59Speaker 4: and so as a parent, you also buy them the
- 5:01Speaker 4: Elmo doll. And so they literally increase the lifetime value
- 5:04Speaker 4: of that customer by not having the product that everybody
- 5:07Speaker 4: wanted the most available when they needed.
- 5:09Speaker 1: It the most.
- 5:10Speaker 4: You're gonna buy something to just wrap and put under
- 5:12Speaker 4: the shelves, and you're gonna buy that thing when it
- 5:15Speaker 4: becomes available, and you literally doubled the lifetime value of
- 5:18Speaker 4: that customer. What I learned when I read that book
- 5:21Speaker 4: is that's exactly what was happening with that product. At
- 5:24Speaker 4: that time that we were promoting it is parents went
- 5:26Speaker 4: and bought anything that they could possibly buy from an
- 5:29Speaker 4: electronic standpoint for Christmas. Right after Christmas and right after
- 5:33Speaker 4: the holidays, that board was flooded and any and everywhere,
- 5:36Speaker 4: And I just didn't realize that. I only understood the
- 5:39Speaker 4: experiential component of bringing people in so that they can
- 5:42Speaker 4: experience it and so that they would buy the product
- 5:45Speaker 4: when it was available. So it was a weird time
- 5:47Speaker 4: that we were in that I had that realization once
- 5:50Speaker 4: I read that.
- 5:50Speaker 3: So the whole idea is like to have it not
- 5:54Speaker 3: in demand when you need it the most, and then
- 5:58Speaker 3: overflow of demand after peak season is over.
- 6:01Speaker 4: Yeah, So to not have it available when you need
- 6:04Speaker 4: it the most, when you need it the most, you'll
- 6:05Speaker 4: buy something else.
- 6:06Speaker 5: I'm going to buy Mario tennis.
- 6:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:08Speaker 4: It's like if you you have a significant other and
- 6:11Speaker 4: she wants this very specific diamonds, you can't. You've promised
- 6:14Speaker 4: the diamonds because you know how important it is. It's
- 6:15Speaker 4: the only thing that she's asked for. So you get
- 6:17Speaker 4: to the jewelry store. The diamonds are nowhere to be found.
- 6:20Speaker 4: You've gone to numerous stores, you cannot find it. You're
- 6:23Speaker 4: not going back home without something that's done by design
- 6:27Speaker 4: and intention. So you're going to buy that thing. And
- 6:29Speaker 4: now when that thing becomes available that she really wanted, well,
- 6:32Speaker 4: that want doesn't go away just because you got you
- 6:35Speaker 4: buy the thing again.
- 6:36Speaker 5: The stinker thing is perfect. It's like every Christmas Join
- 6:39Speaker 5: is going to release eleven, right. If the kid doesn't
- 6:42Speaker 5: get the eleven, they'll probably buy the kid pair of KDS.
- 6:45Speaker 5: Nike sees that, Oh, restock and now everybody gets to
- 6:50Speaker 5: have the shoe, and now you have the customer more
- 6:51Speaker 5: than more than one purchase.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it.
- 6:54Speaker 4: And I think one of the things about reading that
- 6:57Speaker 4: book and understanding is that at first it pisses you off, like, man,
- 7:00Speaker 4: I felt for all these.
- 7:01Speaker 5: Traps as you was saying it, and I'm like, I
- 7:02Speaker 5: think I felt it.
- 7:04Speaker 4: But then I think as an entrepreneur, you can use
- 7:06Speaker 4: that and turn that around, right. And so the difference
- 7:08Speaker 4: between the two is, I think on the advertising industry
- 7:11Speaker 4: it's there's a little bit of manipulation, and from an
- 7:14Speaker 4: entrepreneurship standpoint, you can use that in your favor of
- 7:17Speaker 4: thinking like, well, how do I market a product to
- 7:20Speaker 4: this person? Where they if I don't have it available,
- 7:23Speaker 4: then there's something else that's equally or close to what
- 7:26Speaker 4: they want, but they still keep them around long enough
- 7:29Speaker 4: that they also buy the thing that they want. There's
- 7:31Speaker 4: one way to look at it, right. The other way
- 7:33Speaker 4: to look at it is intention. Is your intention to
- 7:35Speaker 4: manipulate people into buying two things? Or is your intention
- 7:39Speaker 4: to increase the lifetime value of the customer in a
- 7:42Speaker 4: meaningful way that increases their affinity to who you are
- 7:46Speaker 4: and what you're building.
- 7:47Speaker 1: I think there's another way to look at that, right.
- 7:49Speaker 4: And then when I think of like black businesses, and
- 7:52Speaker 4: I see this happen in the food business more than anything.
- 7:55Speaker 4: You'll go to a restaurant they don't have like nine
- 7:59Speaker 4: things on the menu.
- 8:00Speaker 1: You're like, man, I'm never gonna come to this restaurant again.
- 8:02Speaker 4: And then I've seen other other menus and other companies
- 8:05Speaker 4: who will say, well, first come first, sir, right like
- 8:09Speaker 4: if we run out, we run out, And you start
- 8:11Speaker 4: getting to that early because they've set a different kind
- 8:14Speaker 4: of expectation around the scarcity and limited availability.
- 8:17Speaker 1: It's how you communicate it.
- 8:19Speaker 4: In one instance, I see black businesses being demonized for
- 8:21Speaker 4: that they never got what they say they gonna have.
- 8:24Speaker 4: They never open when they say they're supposed to open,
- 8:26Speaker 4: they close in early. And then I've seen it manage
- 8:28Speaker 4: the expectation, manage around that. In other south By Southwest,
- 8:32Speaker 4: the barbecue place there is a prime example. You know
- 8:34Speaker 4: that if you don't get there at six o'clock in
- 8:36Speaker 4: the morning, you may not get that barbecue because they
- 8:39Speaker 4: once they run out, they run out. You're not saying, like, man,
- 8:42Speaker 4: they don't have anything together. You know what, You wake
- 8:45Speaker 4: up the next morning at six o'clock because you really
- 8:48Speaker 4: want that barbecue. Everyone's spoken so highly about it, and
- 8:51Speaker 4: you know that it's now a very kind of sacred
- 8:53Speaker 4: experience that you have that you wouldn't have anywhere else
- 8:56Speaker 4: because you get to try something that other people may
- 8:59Speaker 4: not try because they've a lot. It's about how we
- 9:01Speaker 4: manage expectations in business, and then how we communicate the
- 9:04Speaker 4: value of what we're doing. In one end, you never
- 9:07Speaker 4: going to go back there because they don't never have
- 9:08Speaker 4: anything together. Is literally no difference. The supply is gone.
- 9:13Speaker 4: You get there first, You get there first, one instances coveted,
- 9:15Speaker 4: and then the other instance is demonized. And that's not fair,
- 9:18Speaker 4: but it's a business lesson that people have to learn.
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