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Hebrews Part 45 - Simply Christ Podcast · Simply Christ Podcast

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All righty, we are ready to get started here.
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Welcome to our weekly Bible study where we discuss God's
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Word and we let it transform our lives.
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Tonight we are going to talk in the out of the put the Hebrew
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Hebrews chapter 13 and discuss what what is in there.
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those links there. But anyway, for the next hour,
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the five of us are going to go through Hebrews chapter 13.
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Starting at verse 14 is where we're going to start and we'll
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get get going into there. I'll open with a word of prayer.
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God, thank you for this day. Thank you for these brothers
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that have availed themselves to your word.
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God, we just thank you for your grace and your mercy.
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Thank you for your Son Jesus, thank you for the plan of
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salvation that you created before the foundation of the
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earth. And God, I just play right that
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as we look at your word that we could speak clearly and with
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clarity and accuracy, that we could represent your name well.
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And God, I just pray that you would give the listeners open
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ears, open hearts, that we could hear and learn of you.
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Does you have great truth? You are perfect and righteous in
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every way and we love you. We look forward to reading about
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you and learning more of you that so God, I just pray that
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you would bless tonight's study in Jesus name, Amen.
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All. Right, verse 14 says for here we
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have no continuing city, but we seek one to come.
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And we had been talking, of course, here, chapter 13, a
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recap kind of of the book of Hebrews and most recently here
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talking about not to be carried away with diverse and strange
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doctrines. We talked about that last week
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and that we should have our hearts established with grace
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and things like that. Really good, really good study.
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And so here he is. He starts in with just for here
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we have no continuing city, but seek one to come.
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I find it interesting and I'll toss it over to you Aaron for
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your thoughts. But here he says in verse we
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have continuing city. Just a little bit ago in chapter
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12 verse 22, he says but ye are come unto Mount Zion and unto
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the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem.
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Yeah, I just find it interesting that I don't I don't it doesn't
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contradict each other all but he says for we have no continuing
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city, but he's talking about this earthly Kingdom versus
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that's final. Anyway, go ahead here with your
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thoughts on verse. I actually kind of want to back
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up just a little just because I think the I think it's relevant.
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If you think about what he said in verse 13, He said to let us
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let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp bearing his
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reproach. And and based on that and verse
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14 that you just read, I think that this he is getting back to
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what kind of what he's been doing all along, because you
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don't you see him encouraging them that we have a sacrifice
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that's complete. In other words, he's always
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encouraged him not right. Don't go back to the temple.
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Don't go back and do those sacrifices.
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Don't depend on the priest. Don't do all those things.
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So I. Think again.
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I'll be glad to hear what you all think about this.
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But I think when he says let us go forth therefore unto him
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without the camp burying his reproach, I think he's kind of
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referring to the reproach that's going to come from stepping back
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from that system. They've been in, like they, you
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know, we've talked about it all along.
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They've been persecuted. They've been, you know, maybe
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exiled. They've been.
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You know. All these things have come upon
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him from from going after Christ and away from the temple.
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So I think when he says let's go to him, barring his reproaches,
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don't be afraid to step outside of that outside of that old
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system. And then he goes on to say in
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verse 14 for we have here for we for here have we no continuing
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city, but we seek one to come. And I think I maybe said this
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last week, but I really do, I think he's pointing them towards
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this new Jerusalem, this, this city.
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Because if you're going to, if you're going to take somebody,
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spend all their lifetime, have great confidence in the temple
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and things that was at Jerusalem, and you're going to
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direct them away from that. One of the things you're going
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to have to say to them is, is listen, this is not the real
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one, right? He's been saying that all along.
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This is not the real one. This is not the real place that
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the blood that matters was sacrificed.
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It wasn't in the one made from hands.
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So I think he is directing their attention away from that place
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to one that's going to continue because contrast the two
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Jerusalem and the temple at that time is getting ready to be
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wiped out in 70 AD. The one that we're looking for,
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in fact, the one that Abraham back in Chapter 11, he said he
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looked for a city which built, whose builder and maker was God.
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You know, like he's looking for something that will last.
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And that's the two, that's the way I would kind of compare
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those two things is that city is not going to continue.
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But the one we're looking for, the 1 Abraham was looking for,
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actually won't be just, it will continue, right?
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I mean, I know continue is not exactly synonymous with
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everlasting, but in a sense, that's what he's saying, right?
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He's saying this city is not going to last, but that one
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actually will. Like that one is one that will
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last, that's actually a real place that will last, that won't
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be sacked by the Romans, that won't be destroyed.
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That's a real continuing city, one that continued on.
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And I just like that. So I think he is kind of, I
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think it's very specific to these people pointing them away
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from that literally like we saw all along this book, away from
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that system, away from that actual temple to the real 1 to a
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real city that we'll continue. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
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That's that's good. And also verse 27 in chapter 12
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says, and this word yet once more signify the removing of
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those things that are shaken as of things that are made, that
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those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
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And this, the city that we're looking for, is going to be one
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of those things that that's going to remain as being iduous,
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you know, a good, good description of what could
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remain. Andrew.
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Yeah, I think it is also a good word of encouragement if you're
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having a really hard time. The same way we we would say for
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someone that lost everything they've worked for here, let's
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say they built of company or a business or a family or whatever
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and disaster strikes and we lose everything.
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What's the first thing we always say?
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Well, I guess this is not our home.
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I guess we can't, we're not going to take it with us.
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So all these guys that are being persecuted, maybe they can't go
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to town anymore. They'll be seen and they'll be
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locked up or their life's a disaster because of the faith
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that they're following. They can't.
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It was alive here. It's so hard that they're drawn
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back to, they're drawn to go back to where they have peace
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with the guys ruling over them. And he's like, look, it's not
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worth it. This city will not continue.
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It matters. It matters that you're going to
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be on good terms with the city you're going to.
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That won't be shaken. That's good.
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That would. Yeah, I think it like looked up
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when Hebrews was written and it was approximately 60 to 67 AD.
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So the temple would not have been destroyed yet at this point
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when he was writing this book, according to Google, right.
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Anyway, So he's just telling them, look, you know, maybe
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they're maybe they were thinking, you know, they're
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thinking of going back to the law.
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And so obviously the temple involves the law, you know is in
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law with the law. And so he's just telling them,
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look, there's going to be a city to come that is going to be
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continuing and this city right now that you guys are putting a
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lot of stock in because think about it if.
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You're. Going to Jerusalem to worship
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and to sacrifice. And you were used to doing that
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your whole life. And now all of a sudden Christ
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died on the cross and he is the the perfect lamb.
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He is the the perfect high priest.
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So we have read about and now all of a sudden you don't need
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to, you know, go and sacrifice anymore.
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But this temple is still there. And they're like, this thing is
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probably going to just stay here, right?
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I mean, that's what we think. We think when, when there's
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something, a city or a house or whatever property, we think it's
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going to stay here forever. But in all reality, it's not
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because it's not continuing. Everything on this earth is not
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continuing. So I think it's important that
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that we keep that in mind as well, you know, for us.
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Today, yeah, I guess I would just kind of like to put the
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challenge out there to myself and anyone else listening.
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The Hebrews had this truth given to them and they it was a
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perspective that they were supposed to have on life.
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And it's easy to say these things, like Andrew said, what
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something terrible happens, then we could say, well, I guess we
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we're not living for this world. This world is not our home.
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And that kind of mentality, it often strikes us when tragedy
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hits. What do you live this way
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day-to-day? Are.
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Are you living as if you do have a continuing city here?
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Are you putting your stock in the things that are on this
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world? Are you like, I don't want to
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ZAP anybody's motivation to build a business, to work hard,
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to have a good family, to build a beautiful home or anything
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like that. Those are all good and valuable
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things. If you recognize that it is not
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the thing that we're looking for.
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It is not continuing. It is something that you build
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here to lead people to the continuing city.
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It is work that you do temporarily that might beautify
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the gospel in some way that will point people to the city that we
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do actually seek in Second Corinthians, very similar
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context. In chapter 4, verse 17 and 18,
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the apostle Paul says for our light affliction, and their
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affliction was not light by my estimation, but he says for our
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light affliction, which is. But for a moment it really is
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like some people might think the mine is not for a moment.
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Mine's been going on for 20 years and the grand scheme of
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things, it is a very small little moment.
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I remember one time my mind just opened up to the vastness of
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eternity when a man was telling a children's Bible story.
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He was telling the story of Jonah and he's, he had Jonah get
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a command from God. And then Jonah decides to run
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away from God. And so he had pictured this
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thing with the children. He said, OK, now imagine the
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earth from God's perspectives, you know, and then here's the
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next planet, Here's the next planet, here's the solar system.
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And you know, God can see all this stuff from afar or from
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close, however he wants to see it.
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And now Jonah decides to run away, and you can see Jonah go.
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See that? Like he didn't even move.
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Like that they the work that we're doing here is just so
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tiny. Even if we're doing something
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for 20 years. It's like Jonah trying to run
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from God. It's really in the vastness of
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eternity. It will seem like just a little
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blip on the radar, he said. Our light affliction, which is
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but for a moment worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal
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weight of glory, while we look not at the things which are
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seen, but at the things which are are not seen.
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For the things which are seen are temporal, but the things
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which are not seen are eternal. And so there is nothing that we
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build on this earth that will last.
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It will hopefully can use the temporal things to win souls, to
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bring people in, to build a beautiful lineage on this earth,
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but ultimately it's only the things that are not seen that
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will actually last for eternity. Yeah, that's that's real good.
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But I got a question. So would you give that type of
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perspective to somebody is giving up on their marriage?
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Like a lot of times when people are giving up on their marriage
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because they think it's so difficult.
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And the main word that you hear is I just can't take it anymore.
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I just can't do it anymore. I cannot do it anymore.
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And I understand that That's your most personal, personal
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experience with your spouse. You know, that's very, very spy
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out the weakest point for a man to get attacked, like the, you
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know, most powerful point, you know, to just destroy a man, it
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really hurts. But I still think we need to
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hear the fact that even our marriage is not a continuing
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project. There's no marriage or giving in
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marriage in the next city we're going to.
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So that's also just put for a moment, right?
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And it should motivate us to fix it, I mean, because we're here
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only for a moment. But what do you guys think about
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that? Is that kind of stretch?
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Yeah, I I think that's, that's very true.
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I know Dave Ramsey. I quote him quite.
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A bit, but. He, he says that disregarding
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financial, but it would apply to anything.
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He says that as long as you can see your way through something,
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you can withstand almost anything.
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And, and I think that's true. And especially regarding
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eternity, like if we realize that whatever it is that we're
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facing is, is temporary, knowing that there is eternity, there is
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whatever is on the other side, that is always going to be
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something that we can latch on to as a encouragement.
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I guess you would say. I, I mean, I don't know if
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that's exactly the right word, but it is definitely.
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I mean, you've all heard about the story where the, the they
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had a if I got a bug and 1/2 full of water, they put a mouse
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in and they let it swim to it just couldn't swim anymore and
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it was going to drown. And then they, they picked it
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up, let it rest for an hour, then they put it back in.
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And the second time they put that mouse in the water, it swam
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for twice as long as it did the first time.
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And the study goes that this what they say is that that mouse
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had hope of being rescued the first time.
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The second the first time she gave up.
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The second time she had hope of being rescued.
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So she just kept going to go to go.
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You know, I think that's irrelevant discussion here.
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But isn't that a little bit what we're talking about that I mean
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that's that kind of answer your what you're saying, right?
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I would like to think that there is something very eternal about
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our marriages. If our spouse is unsaved, then
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obviously that that relationship will be severed.
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And what that exactly looks like, I don't know.
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But The thing is, my my marriage in one sense is not seen.
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It is one of those eternal things.
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It's a bond that's being built that can stand the test of time
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and can also be felt for years after someone has passed away.
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And there's deep abiding love and passion and tenderness that
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continues on. And so Lovejoy, peace, those
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things are all eternal. So if you're investing in and
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working hard out of marriage, it is working at an eternal thing,
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I would say. But I do understand what you're
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saying when someone is in a marriage that just doesn't seem
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to be going anywhere. It's a constant battle and
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you're not getting your needs met and therefore you become
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more introspective and more self-centered and then you're
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not meeting their needs and it's just this vicious cycle.
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I can, I can imagine that'd be one of the worst things to be
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locked into. But most people, if they can
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just decide to commit to it, especially if both parties can
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commit to it, you can make it good again.
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Like just give it a few years, you can make it good again.
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That would be terrible news if because we've, me and my wife
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have talked about, you know, when it's good, you hope it
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continues, right? There's some continuance in
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eternity where at least we're still doing stuff together or
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something. But Can you imagine as you were
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married to a real witch, you know, knowing that an eternity
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going to be bad? Or maybe, maybe that would cause
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us to figure it out now. Well, I mean that that whole
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idea actually that this, you know, to get back into the
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context here, this this verse is meant as an encouragement, isn't
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it? If you like that he's saying
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here that we have no continuous sitting.
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Like in other words, like like you said, Aaron to back up to
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verse 13, he's talking about very, very, very reproach, you
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know, being be suffering for the name of Jesus, right?
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And and he so this verse 14, I think is as it encourage me,
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like realizing that this is not the end of everything here.
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You know, you got a long thing on the other side of this short
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fairing of the cross or whatever you want to call it.
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Yeah, I I guess I don't know my thought on it to be similar to
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Dan in the sense that I would just say it this way is if I'm
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not denying the verse that said that Christ said you all are
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miss thinking of the resurrection when they asked him
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that question about the woman that had the seven different
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brothers. I'm not denying that.
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I'm just saying we I don't believe we get amnesia when we.
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Are. You know, when we go into
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eternity, I don't think so. I think that if you really do
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have a, you know, a marriage that is good and all that, I
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don't think you're going to forget that.
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And Christ used it as the only thing that he compared Christ
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and his bride to, you know, like the church and Christ to.
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But I would say this to Andrew's point is we'd people give up on
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things because they don't have the perspective that that it is.
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In other words, when somebody says I can't stand this anymore,
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they're, you know, like they are, they're actually fooling
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themselves. You know what I mean?
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They're they're, they're looking at it as a as.
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I I don't know, they're, they're just, they have the wrong
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perspective on it when they say that.
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I think, I think they have the wrong perspective on it when
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they say I can't stand this anymore.
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But I don't know. This ain't really a marriage
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talk. I guess we can go.
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Down that. Way down to the wrong.
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How much you're thinking it could bring hope to people that
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are struggling even in that area?
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Yeah, yeah. You look at sorry, no, go ahead.
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I was just going to say kind of like Andrew was saying, that the
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Hebrews then were suffering through something terrible,
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persecution, difficulty, and seeing that they were here not
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for now but for that continuing city, help them through their
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difficulties then through persecution and opposition and
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all that. So it should have the same
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effect for somebody who is suffering through a marriage.
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They should be able to continue. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. And I, I was just going to say,
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I think if someone is saying that I can't take this anymore,
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that maybe they should be thinking about what could I do
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to make this better myself, right?
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Because you can't change the other person, but you can change
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yourself. But but yeah, it you have to, we
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have to keep a Kingdom eternal view on everything.
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And I think marriage is impeded to that.
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Yep. And from my comment, oh, sorry,
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no, go ahead. And from my comment about if
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you're stuck in a bad one, if you're stuck in a bad marriage
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and somehow we're still going to be connected in heaven, which I
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strongly believe we probably will be, or at least definitely
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know people have gone there and they've seen their family there.
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So yeah, certainly there's going to be, I think any issue is
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going to be resolved. So if you're in a bad marriage,
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there's hope. That's right.
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Even if you're stuck with her in eternity, so.
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Super. All right.
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Like you said, this is not a. Marriage.
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Exactly. That's good and it's it's kind
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of relevant in the in the idea of you know about having a
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continuing city here but verse 15 by him.
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Therefore, let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God
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continually. That is the fruit of our lips
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giving thanks to his name, Aaron.
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You can go ahead. I, I find it.
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I was, I was kind of reading this earlier and I wasn't sure
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what was giving thanks to his name, our lips or the fruit of
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our lips. I think there's a difference
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there. But anyway, go ahead there as
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your thoughts. I guess I'll actually will
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almost tied in with what we were just saying, not necessarily
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just trying to keep up the marriage topic, but but on the
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on the side of perspective, like 14 had to do with perspective,
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right. In other words, it's what is my
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perspective? Am I looking and Dan brought
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this out really well. Am I living with the perspective
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of only these things that are going on here or do I have the
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eternal perspective here? And I think that this verse also
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would continue that thought because, you know, I know this
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is just been said and it's often said in like a cliche way, but
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really there is things to be thankful for regardless, right?
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Like I don't care what's going on.
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You can be thankful to God for something continually and not
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there may be nothing left in your mind but that Christ died
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for you. You know what I mean?
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Like you may feel like that there's nothing in this physical
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your present circumstances to be thankful for, but you're still
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you should be still thankful for Christ coming and stepping in
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your place. So I think when he says by him,
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therefore, let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God
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continually. I think it is AI really do think
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it is in reference to a continual thankfulness, you
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know, to God like like this, like the city would continue.
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I think the thankfulness should continue regardless of the
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circumstance, regardless what's going on.
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But I don't know like I said that that just again, I think
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this is not just thrown in here out of left field.
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If you're looking at somebody that is being persecuted,
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somebody that is suffering, somebody that is is going
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through a lot, he is reminding them to continue to be thankful
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in in all things, right. I mean, to continue to be
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thankful to God, giving him praise and Thanksgiving
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regardless of how bad you think your circumstance is.
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Yeah. That's right, Andrew.
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Yeah, he says by him. Therefore, let us offer the
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sacrifice of praise based on what he's been saying.
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And when you when you see that he took our sins and he doesn't
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remember many more and we have no more conscience of sin or
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shouldn't have any. If we understand the Gospel, we
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shouldn't have any more conscience of sin has perfected
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us forever. That's a perspective and
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understanding that our only response is with words.
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It's not now that we come with a lamb.
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It's not now our response is not with bring the sacrifice of
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fruit or vegetables or a dove. The sacrifice that he's well
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pleased with now is our thanks, our appreciate for the offering,
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what he has gifted us with and our lips praising him,
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acknowledging what he has done. Even in the Old Testament, a lot
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of times when he did powerful things through the children of
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Israel and so that the nations would recognize who he was and
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like they'll know his name. He wanted everyone, every
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nation, even every heathen nation to know his name and to
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know that who was behind that glorious slaughter of wicked
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people. He wanted, he wanted the credit
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for all that he he, it was, it was me.
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It was a great I am. It was the Alpha and Omega.
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It was it was the King of kings. It was the Lord of Lord, so that
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they may know and fear him. And so now this God gave himself
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for us and made US1 with him outside of us bringing our own
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sacrifice. He did it while we were
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spitting, while we were not bringing the sacrifice, while we
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were angry. He died for us.
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And the only response that that response that he calls sacrifice
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and worship is giving thanks for what he's done.
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That's my opinion, is that counting up the sum of all that
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he has accomplished through the cross and the resurrection and
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you go, you know what, that covers it.
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Thank you, Jesus, we give you all the glory, all the praise
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for anything good that's within us.
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Like Paul said, when he looks within, when he looks inside, he
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finds no good thing. So he says to set our affections
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on things above which that worship God is saying, yeah,
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see, they get it. They're worshipping me because I
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am their deliverer and no one else.
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OK, that's good. Yep, Melvin.
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Yeah, I think, see, it seems like he's been pointing them to
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Christ right then showing them how Jesus is much more
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sufficient and much better than than these earthly priests and
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and earthly sacrifices. So I think when we realized and
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we understand fully what Christ has done for us and the
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sacrifice that he has given for us and the perfect sacrifice
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that he has given for us. And then when we praise God for
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that, then out of our lips comes fruit, right That that I think
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you Lee and you kind of I didn't notice that before, but that's
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what came to my mind when you said that ask that question.
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Then we're praising God for what Christ has done for us.
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Then that is the fruit that comes out of our lips that that,
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that praise that's coming out. And so that's all I have to say
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about that. That's that's awesome.
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You're muted. Give me.
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OK, go ahead. There we go.
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Sorry. I was sipping tea.
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I didn't want you guys to hear it.
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It seems like the the Hebrew people, and I don't think it was
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exclusively to he Hebrews. I think a lot of religious
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people really feel the need to offer some kind of sacrifice.
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They want to rectify bad behavior.
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They want to feel closer to God through some form of self
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deprecation, some kind of beating oneself up or
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rededication of some religious activity.
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They just really want to offer something to God, like let me
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offer something to God. And these Hebrews were on the
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verge of going back to offering sacrifices in the temple.
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And now the apostle or the author here is giving them a
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perfect opportunity. You guys want to offer
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sacrifices. This is what you can offer.
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Here is the way to start. And I, you know, sometimes when
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you first become a Christian, you're willing to give up
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anything like I would give my body to be burned.
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I'm ready to go to the stake. Let me let me die for you, Lord,
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I want to do anything for you. And it's almost like God is
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saying, well, how about you prove that to me simply just by
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being thankful. Let your heart be so filled with
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what God has done for you that it comes off of your tongue
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easily. You know what's in the heart
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will come out and it if you have a heart of gratitude and
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gratefulness for what God has done and you're living in faith
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of what Christ has done, as Andrew already pointed out, the
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the name of the Lord should come easily to your tongue.
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Your Thanksgiving, your prayers should be 90% Thanksgiving.
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Perhaps, you know, I'm just throwing a number out there, but
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thankfulness and praise should just be continually coming out
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of your lips because it's what else, what other response could
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there be? So if you're willing to give up
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your body to be burned, you know, if you're not living in a
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heart of gratitude, if you're not content with such things as
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you have, if you're not joyful and thankful in the midst of
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difficulty and trial and circumstances, if you can't look
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to what Jesus has done, like Aaron said, and be thankful for
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that, at least then when the difficulty comes, like the real
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difficulty comes, you're not going to be willing to offer
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yourself as a sacrifice. It it only comes out of the
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genuine thankful gratitude and continual sacrifice of a heart
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and lips that give praise to God.
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And I think that we can do this by ourselves every morning, give
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thanks to God every time we pray with our family, we can lead
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with example by giving thanks to God.
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And obviously, I think we should gather with the Saints very
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routinely and corporately give thanks to God through praise,
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through singing, through sacraments, you know, taking the
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Lord's Supper and, and remembering what he's done and
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constantly, continually offering up that sacrifice.
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So you want to sacrifice? You want a sacrificial system.
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We still have one. It's just not blood.
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The blood has been shed. That work has been done.
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Now we can we have the freedom to continually OfferUp a
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sacrifice that is acceptable to God with our lips.
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Yeah, that's good. I, I was drawn to 1st
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Corinthians 13 one where it says though I speak with the tongues
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of men and of angels and have not charity, I have become as a
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sounding brass or a tickling symbol, you know, and I that's
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kind of what I, what I meant when I started there by saying
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the fruit of is it the fruit of our lips or what is it that's
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giving him praise? You know, I mean, you can say
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God, I'm thankful for, you know, the food that we have to eat
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today without actually even being it or whatever.
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It's just it's just something that you said.
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It's different when you when you are convinced that like marriage
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or whatever, to pick all that, since that was our subject.
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Like if you realize that it's the mercy of God that is, that
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is causing you guys to love each other and to thrive together and
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and be able to raise a family that with kids that love God.
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You know, when you say things like that because of what's in
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you, it's different than just somebody reciting the words God
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I love you or singing the word kind of thing.
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That we may be a little bit. Imagine what they were actually
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going through. It might have been a little bit
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like this. Hey, I just found out my oldest
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son, who was already struggling with his finances just got fired
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because they found out he's no longer sacrificed.
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I just found out that this friend, this family has to move
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because the place they're staying, they're getting kicked
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out because they found out they're no longer sacrificing.
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And then these people start talking about and whinings like
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man, this is horrible. And these and then when tragedy
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hits like it did here in this community, sometimes you just
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need someone like this, whoever wrote this to come and say, you
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know what? You need to look up right now.
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Right now, you need to get your thumb out of your mouth and give
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praise, give thanks for what you have, say the hard things.
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So you guys are whining. You're not looking at the big
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picture. Well, I just lost my a house.
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I just lost my job. Well, this is not a continuing
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city. Right.
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Yeah. Yeah, not easy, but right,
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right, Verse 16. But to do good and to
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communicate, forget not, for with such sacrifices God is well
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pleased. I think this is kind of a
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reiteration of the previous verse, written a little
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differently. Go ahead, Aaron.
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I actually think it's a building, if you will, because a
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building on the previous verse, because the first one was
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attitude. Like are you thankful?
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You know what I mean? Like first the verse 15 was
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attitude. Are you thankful?
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Do you really appreciate what God's done for you?
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And I think 16 is a good verse for all of us that know the
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gospel well because I hear it oftentimes it's almost we almost
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don't encourage people to do good because we don't want them
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to be trusted in their own works.
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But he just said don't forget to do good things.
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Don't forget to do good things you know don't to do good and to
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communicate, which just means I mean that actually the same word
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was translated contribution, fellowship, communion,
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communicate communication this distribution.
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So it is a thing that you would do together or do to someone
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else, he says, but to do good and to communicate forget not
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for with such sacrifices. God is well pleased.
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Like I understand I'm I have preached it hard.
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Don't trust in your works, but don't think that God don't
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notice when you do, right? You know what I mean?
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Like He is well pleased with right actions, with doing good.
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God is pleased with that. Like he, He does notice when you
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do things like that. In fact, I'll read you Romans 12
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in the Romans 12 and verse 1. He says, I beseech you
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therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, they you present
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your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which
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is your reasonable service like it's the reason it is the
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reasonable thing to do is to do right, he says, and be not
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conformed to this world. Be transformed by the renewing
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of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable
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and perfect will of God like. Be transformed in how you act
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and how you think so that you can prove no test tried out.
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What is that good and perfect and acceptable?
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Will of God. For I say through the gate grace
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given unto me to every man that is mine, you not to think of
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himself more highly than you ought to think, but to think
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soberly, according as as God hath dealt to every man the
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measure of faith. For we are, for we have many
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members and one body, and all members have not the same
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office. So we being many, are one body
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in Christ, and everyone members one of another, having them
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gifts differing according to the grace that is given unto us.
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Whether prophecy, let us prophecy according to the
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proportion of faith or ministry. Let's wait on our ministry.
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For he that teaches on teaching or he that exhorteth on
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exhortation, and he that giveth, let him do it simp in with
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simplicity. He that ruleth with diligence,
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he that showeth mercy with cheerfulness, right.
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Like that's all things to do. And and also let me read
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Philippians 4 and verse 14. He says this.
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Philippians 414 says notwithstanding, ye have well
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done that ye did communicate. Which is the.
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Same word that, that that used here, this communicate, he says
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you have well done that you did communicate with my afflictions.
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Now you Philippians know also that in the beginning of the
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gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church
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communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving.
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But ye only, that is, nobody was sending him money, nobody was
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sending him food. I was given Paul things to need
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except for them. For even in Thessalonica ye sent
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once and again unto my necessity, not because I desire
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a gift, but I desire fruit. That may abound to your account.
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But I have all and abound. I am full, having received of
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Aphroditus the things which were sent from you.
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Wasn't this and like what they sent Paul, was an odor of a
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sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, well pleasing to
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God. I mean, you said that was a you
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did something that God know it, like in the old days under Moses
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when they would burn something, burn some flesh and God said it
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was a sweet savour or they'd burn some incense.
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And God said, I noticed that, like I smelled it.
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It smelled good to me. He said, when you sent that to
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me, God recognized that. He took note of that and said
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that's a good smell. I appreciate that.
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Like I see what you did there. I appreciate that sacrifice that
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you made. So I don't know, like I said,
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it's yeah, don't trust in your works, but he just called it a
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sacrifice to do good. That's good, Andrew.
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Yeah, doing good. I don't know that you can
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understand the gospel properly and fully receive it in your
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heart and decide, you know what doing evil sounds like It
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evolved the right thing to do, right?
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There's a change your heart that almost works like gravity, where
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you love goodness, you love righteousness.
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Sin is disgusting. To the point where God says it's
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it's sending out something we would do is God forbid it's just
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something that that we need to know and to communicate better
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to not fall in the trap of good works.
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When you ask having some making us confident that we're saved
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and we do a good job in community communicating the
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gospel the way Paul did. Then I don't think we have to
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worry about people doing good in order to be saved.
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I think we can teach people that the fruit of a believer what
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that is and it's good, it's pure, it's righteous, it's love
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and righteous. But I was going to emphasize
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more on the word communicate. He says communicating is a
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sacrifice that God is well pleased.
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You know it is a sacrifice. It takes energy and time to go
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and communicate with somebody. It's easier to stay home and not
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do it. It's easier.
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You know, God also looks at it. It's a big deal to him.
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One of the fruits of the good things that Christians do is we
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visit the poor, we visit, we help the widows and we deal the
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sick and we or help the sick or whatever.
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And we but visit those that are in prison.
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Like that's communicating, right?
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And most marital councils would say communication is key in a
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marriage, right? And sometimes it's really hard
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to communicate. You don't feel like
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communicating, you're a little upset.
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I don't want to. So for him to say to do good and
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communicate makes is a sacrifice that God is well pleased.
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That really rings true to me. Yeah.
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OK, let's put energy work into to know that God is well
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pleased. Like that's God considers that a
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sacrifice for me to communicate, to get out of my cumber zone
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comfort zone and talk to a person that nobody else wants to
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talk to because he looks, he has weird tattoos and earrings.
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Do good and communicate. I like it.
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I need to hear it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's obviously still
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talking about sacrifices here. And you know, good works are OK
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if they're coming out of your. Out of your.
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Love of of Christ right and like it will automatically happen
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when works are not good is when someone is trying to to make you
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know have. Good works or do good works to.
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To be right with God or to maybe make themselves look better to
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God. So it's like you were saying,
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Aaron, we often times don't or shy away from works, but it's OK
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to have good works. And so he's just telling them,
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hey, look, it's to do good and to communicate.
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So he's talking about two different things here and I'm
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and you already pointed that out, but but he's just it's
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awesome that our life, not that we try to go and bring
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sacrifices to God, but but our life and we are understanding
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the goodness of Christ and what Jesus has done for us is his
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sacrifice to God. Yeah, there's a lot of good
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points already brought out. I'll try not to make this too
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long, but the word communicate is that same Greek word that's
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translated as fellowship and communion.
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It's interesting to me that we are in fellowship with his Son,
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the Lord Jesus. God communicated to us, not in
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words only, but he came down and He gave himself as a sacrifice
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for us and that was how he communicated with us.
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He had fellowship with us and we have fellowship with him.
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And so this word communicate has a lot more to do than just
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having conversation. It is like we've already been
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saying, it's a giving up of yourself for other people and
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putting yourself on the line when other people have needs in
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in the book of Peter, first Peter, I believe it as he says,
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not to use your hospitality grudgingly, right?
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To do it with joy and gratitude. And like Aaron already mentioned
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that if it comes from a heart of gratitude and thankfulness,
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you're offering praise to God continually with your lips.
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Now you can kind of put shoes on that and and extend that
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Thanksgiving to someone else with physical things.
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Paul talks about in the book of Galatians.
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He says in Galatians 66, let him that is taught the word
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communicate unto him that teaches in all good things.
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So here's one of the ways to understand that word.
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If you have a man who is preaching the gospel to you,
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teaching you the Bible regularly, Paul's instruction to
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the person listening is communicate to the teacher with
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good things mean have him over, give him a good steak.
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You know when you've shot a deer, take one of your roasts,
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bring it over to the preacher's place.
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You got an extra few 100 bucks. Tell your tell your preacher to
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go out on a little date night with his wife and communicate.
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Hit to him with all good things. You know this is this is kind of
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the way he's talking about. You're grateful for what you
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have, therefore you communicate that gratitude with your lips.
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To God and. With your hands to people around
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you and with your lips to people around you.
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So don't forget it. I think those are interesting
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words. Forget not.
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And then lastly, some of the Calvinists have this idea that
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even when you're saved, everything you do is tainted by
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sin. It's all evil, it's all wicked,
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it's all sinful. Woe is me, I'm undone.
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I'm always sinful. And and they use this as a way
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of appearing to always be very humble, but this kind of verse
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kind of flies in the face of all of that.
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Like you give thanks to God, He is well pleased you do good
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works. God is well pleased You
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communicate your money, your time, your energy, your words.
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I think God looks at that. And like Aaron pointed out, he's
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smelling that beautiful odor and he is well pleased with it.
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We don't need to worry about that.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And and can I add to that just in first John Chapter 4, just to
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kind of point out that this is not like First John Chapter 4 is
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going to tell us that that is a like we're manifesting God's
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love to other people. I'll just read it first John
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four and verse 11 says, beloved, if God so loved us, we ought
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also to love one another. No man has seen God at any time.
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If we love one another, God dwelleth in US and his love is
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perfected in US. He goes on down to verse 20 and
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he says this. If a man say I love God and
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hateth his brother, he's a liar. For he that loveth not his
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brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not
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seen, right? I mean, both of those mentioned
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it like you are seeing these people, the people that you
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would communicate with are in your face, if you will.
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You are actually seeing them. You're actually interacting with
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them. Whereas God, I mean, think about
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we just read that verse a chapter or so ago.
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Forget not to entertain strangers because some of
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entertained angels unaware like your your your manifestation
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oftentimes of your love for God is made known in the way you
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would interact and communicate with the people around you,
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right? I mean, I think that's what
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these verses are saying. It is coming out in the way you
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interact with these people around you, you know, like that
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that is translated into the way you interact with these people
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around. And you can't make the claim
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that you love God and you always forget to communicate and do
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good. To other people.
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You know what I mean? Like, that's a false claim,
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according to John. You can't claim that you love
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God and never communicate and do good to the people around you.
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Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot of good stuff
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there. I thought.
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Well, Dan was talking and you, Aaron, you know, Charlie Kirk,
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he was convinced that if communication breaks down, we as
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a society will break down. That was kind of the root of his
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entire thing, wasn't it? I mean, if we don't, if we fail
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to hear each other and talk with each other and have open
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dialogue, we start to break down as a society.
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And you know, and so it is really important that we
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communicate and it's something that we gloss over.
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But if you think about it, this is what God is doing, what we're
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doing right now. He communicated to us about His
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great love for us. Matter of fact, you remember
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what the 1st 2 verses are of Hebrews where we started, you
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know, said God in summary time past time spoke to us, you know,
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but he has in these last days spoken unto us by his son.
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You alluded to that error, you know, so he was good and
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gracious and not just keeping this gift to himself.
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He communicated it to the entire race through, you know, various
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means, but lately by his son. And so, yeah, that's that's a
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lot of good stuff. And then as far as doing good, I
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really appreciate the points that you brought out about that
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Doing good is not a bad thing, right?
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I mean, you would expect, but we have tended to throw that behind
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us because of the way that we were encouraged to, you know, be
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a child of God by doing good works, you know, so, but I, I
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thought about it. Galatians 610 says as we
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therefore, as we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto
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all men, you know, and especially unto those that are
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of the household of faith. He says they're so.
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Yeah, that's that's good stuff. All right. 17 Obey them that
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have ruled over you and submit yourselves for they watch for
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your souls as they that must give an account, must give
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account that they may do it with joy and not with grief, for that
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is unprofitable for you. Ah, and I, yeah, I guess kind of
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self-explanatory. I'll let you go ahead here in a
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second. But there is something about
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working alongside somebody in a way that does not make their job
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harder. I mean, I think that's true in
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church. I think that's true in business.
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I think that's true in a family setting, whatever that you are
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not the cause of pain, right? So I just, that's an interesting
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verse. Yeah, I, I think it is AI think
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it's specific. I don't think this is, I don't
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personally think this is a verse for like Romans 13 would be
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about the, the leaders of the land or whatever.
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I think this is actually like leaders of the church, the
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elders, the you know, the the people that are like Paul or
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whoever at the time that was leading the people.
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I think he's encouraging people to submit themselves under those
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leaders. He says for they watch for your
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souls. That's why I think it's specific
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to those to the leadership role like that.
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And he says as they that must give account.
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In other words, James, I think it is one of them says be not
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many masters for there's a greater condemnation.
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In other words, don't, don't strive, don't everybody strive
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to be the master because that's actually a great responsibility.
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And that's what he's saying here.
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They give an account. They're going to give an account
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for that, that they may do it with joy.
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In other words, if you submit to them, if you, if you look at
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them as though they do have your good at heart, right?
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I mean, if you're going to somebody, I just, it's funny, I
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just said this to my kids. I said, I said, I don't want, I
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want you to realize that I have your best interests at heart.
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I'm not trying to make you miserable.
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You know, like I'm not saying something to try to make you
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miserable. I actually have your good in
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mind when I do this. So I think he's saying submit to
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them as though they have their good mind, because that will
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that will make them lead with joy, not with grief.
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For that is unprofitable to you. In other words, if they're
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leading you in a if they're if it is a grievous job to lead
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you, there's no profit in that for you.
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It's not going to be good for anybody, right?
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That's good. Yep, Andrew, he's muted.
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You're muted. I got you.
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That's the verse that let's say X Amish and Mennonites probably
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go like ouchy, you know, a bit, you know, But once the Holy
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Spirit gets a hold of us, we become a sponge that is just or
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a vacuum that is just looking for someone to pour some truth
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and life into us. I was like that when I first got
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a glimpse of the light life. Until then, we're always
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defensive. Defensive.
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Don't talk to me about it. I don't want to hear it.
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You're stepping on my, you know, you're stepping into a territory
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that I'm not comfortable with. And you know, we're loyal to the
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system. And then one day the Spirit of
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God gets hold off and we would come to sponge.
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And what I would give to have a leadership that I could look to
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and trust and submit to and know that they are genuinely looking
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after my soul and they know things, they've matured in the
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faith, they know the Bible, they know the gospel.
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And for them to communicate that to me and to help me, I think
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that's the mindset that I would like to put in people's minds is
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that you can make that very joyful for the one that is doing
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the preaching. When you're always standoffish
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and always fighting it, that's not helping anybody.
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That's not helping you. It's not helping the ministers
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in any way, but it's not I don't I don't if if to you it's like,
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oh, I got to submit to these elders and these leaders.
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I think that's a little bit of a twisted view of it.
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Like if you're hungry, if you want to know the word of God, if
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you want to get established in the faith, you're going to want
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someone that is more mature, has been in the faith longer than
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you, has some more spiritual understanding and it's very
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grateful thing. I mean, I would have almost paid
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money to have. I think that's why you're doing
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this, Leon, is because we want to have a voice out there that
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has no agenda because this ruling this, but the minister
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has really suffered with all the false preachers coming out.
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It really makes it difficult for someone, well, who is true, who
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actually has my best interest at heart, who actually genuinely
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cares for my soul. So I think you have to make that
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judgment when you remember how it says to watch their
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conversation like you watch him. And you, you have to decide who
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do you think is only promoting Jesus Christ in the Word of God
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or they have some other hidden agenda.
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And I think you can figure it out pretty quickly.
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But to find someone that actually cares for your soul is
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priceless. Amen.
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That's good, Melvin. Yeah, I just kind of had a light
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bulb moment when you guys are talking about the word submit,
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you know that word, when we hear that word especially towards
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what it's talking about here, then they have rule over you
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like elders or or leaders in a church.
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It gives us the willies, you know, because we've a lot of us
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have been used badly by leaders and elders.
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But the the light bulb moment that I had about submit is that
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submitting is actually walking alongside and helping that
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person. So when it says wives submit to
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your husband, it doesn't mean that your wife is just going to
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be under you like some slave or like some rug, but that she
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actually walks alongside of you because like you were saying,
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Andrew, because when she realizes that that you have the
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best interest for her, right, then she will submit to you.
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And that's what it's saying here that you submit to their
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yourselves for they have watched over your soul those that have
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their best interests for you and just walk alongside them and
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help them, right? That's what he's saying here
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because as they that must give account that they may do it with
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joy and not with grief. When you're walking alongside of
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someone and helping them, whatever that may be and
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whatever that looks like, it is going to be a joy for them and
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not a grief so good. Stuff.
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Yeah, he seems to be continuing on in the same vein of offering
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sacrifices to God. And here's one more thing for
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Christians to be able to do. One of the things that's very
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distasteful about a verse like this, and as well the verses
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that talk about husbands or wives submit to your husbands,
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is when the husband quotes that verse for his own benefit.
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It's really, really disgusting. Now husband says to his wife,
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you should submit to me. If you have to tell her to
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submit, there's a couple big problems going on there.
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You're either not leading well or she's rebellious.
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And maybe it's a bit of both. But the real, true submission
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comes from the bottom up, like a real leader in the church is not
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trying to Lord it over the flock.
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They're not supposed to. They're trying to just genuinely
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chart a course, lead the people in a certain direction, feed the
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flock, nourish them, build them up.
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And they're not telling people what to do.
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And so now he's telling the people, hey, when you notice
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somebody who's walking that way, when you notice somebody who
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actually loves you, just give them the joy of their life and
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actually submit to what they're recommending and teaching.
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He's not giving, he's not giving all the authority to a preacher
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over your life or anything weird like that.
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He's saying you as the hearer you and there's not many
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leaders. There really isn't.
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And he says, don't try to be too many leaders.
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Every now and then you get a church where there's a dozen men
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that all want to lead, but in most cases there's few.
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So when you have a man who wants to do it, has a desire for it,
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has been blessed by God to do it, is leading well, give him
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the benefit and help him to do it with joy and it will be a
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great benefit to you as well. So a submission comes from you
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to them. It's not a lording over from the
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top down. And it it never works that way.
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And so you want to please God and the church, honor your
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leaders, communicate good things to them, be submissive to their
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direction and their will. Give them the benefit of the
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doubt. Pray for them and help them in
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any way you can. It's never leaders now you to
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make sure that your congregation submits.
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It is completely backwards. So I think it's very well
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written. Amen.
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That's good. That's a good spot to finish.
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I think you wrapped it up quite nicely there, Dan.
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A good, good word there that we could submit.
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That is not a word that sits well with some people.
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I'm one of them probably, but. Anyway, yeah.
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Well, I'm just, I'm just saying it anyway.
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So, yeah, that's, that's good. I appreciate your your time.
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So anyway, we'll close it up here.
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Thank you for being with us tonight.
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As we conclude today's study, remember Hebrews 11/1.
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Faith is a substance of things hoped for, the evidence of
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things not seen. And as we're discussing here, we
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would wish that your faith could reveal all these biblical truths
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more clearly, that your physical eyes can perceive the things
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before you. Join us next Monday as we
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continue to look at God's Word through the substance of faith.
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God bless you guys. We'll see you back next week.