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BREAKDOWN- SHAKEDOWN: The Unborn · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 2: there in your face holes, JJ Vance, not the vice president,
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  Speaker 2: But welcome back here, folks. I will be your pilot
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  Speaker 2: and navigator here for tonight's shenanigan-infused journey into the mind
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  Speaker 2: of this particular garbage can dude. And I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to lie to you there, HB. Are you in my
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  Speaker 2: brain hole, sir? Throughout this entire film, I took numerous
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  Speaker 2: double takes saying, is that Megan Fox? It's a Megan
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  Speaker 2: Fox lookalike. We've got a Megan Fox doppelganger, Nazis, demons,
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  Speaker 2: dibbyooks of the Jewish variety, a Rabbi Gary Oldman. What
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  Speaker 2: can go wrong here tonight on tonight's occult and or
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  Speaker 2: esoteric film review of the 2009 demonic masterpiece, The Unborn.
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  Speaker 2: This is actually my favorite scene right here. It's near
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  Speaker 2: the end. We'll talk about it. It gets into the mixer.
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  Speaker 2: That's Gary Oldman Muppet and bootleg Megan Fox Muppet. And
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  Speaker 2: joining us here tonight, we got Julia, the Cosmic Peach.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Operation GCD, ma'am, for your absolutely very
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  Speaker 2: first time ever.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a little shy because it's my first time ever.
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  Speaker 4: So just be patient with me. It's very nice to
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  Speaker 4: meet you, JJ, for the very first time.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, ma'am.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate your recommendation for tonight's film review here, The Unborn.
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  Speaker 4: I know you don't usually like scary movies.
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  Speaker 5: It costs me.
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  Speaker 2: To step out of my normal film genres. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you've got to step out of your normal safe spaces,
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  Speaker 2: you know? I can't watch Dude, Where's My Car and
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  Speaker 2: other ancient alien cargo cult movies every night, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Well i just you know i was thinking about what
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  Speaker 4: movie we should review i gave it a lot of
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  Speaker 4: thought and then i was thinking maybe it's mean of
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  Speaker 4: me to pick such a creepy one because jj hates
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  Speaker 4: scary movies but i had to do it there's there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of good stuff in this one.
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  Speaker 2: Well uh first of all happy birthday ma'am and uh
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  Speaker 2: no i definitely uh definitely appreciated that because uh I
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  Speaker 2: do enjoy occult films of the Nazis, and that is
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  Speaker 2: what we have here tonight is a mixture of some
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  Speaker 2: Nazi occultism, some Kabbalah, and, you know, demon shit, devil shit,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, and bootleg Megan Fox. Also, so I
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  Speaker 2: want to thank you, ma'am, for joining me here tonight
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  Speaker 2: to get a little GCD again for your very first time.
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  Speaker 2: And welcoming back for your very first time, sir, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Phil Z, secret agent of the Dewey Decimal System. Welcome back, sir,
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  Speaker 2: for your very first time to Operation GCD.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you. It is an honor to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Julia, meet Phil. Phil, meet Julia. Both of you all's
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  Speaker 2: first times?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: First time. First time.
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  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, somebody said drink every time Julia says taint.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't even said taint yet.
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  Speaker 2: And Phil's drinking. We know it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 5: We all know it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: All right, fine. Megan Fox's taint. Everybody take a drink.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Megan Fox is a man, first and foremost. I
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  Speaker 2: will say that. I don't know about bootleg Megan Fox. No,
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  Speaker 2: she does not. We do not see any bootleg Megan
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  Speaker 2: Fox breasts in this film, sir. Looks like the over-under
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  Speaker 2: on your taint references is going to be one and
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  Speaker 2: a half, so you're already there. Don't tell Vegas. They
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  Speaker 2: might need to redo the odds.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, shoot. Also, do.
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  Speaker 2: Joining us here tonight to get a little GCD is Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Clint Eastwood. Welcome back to Operation GCD, sir, for your
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  Speaker 2: first time.
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  Speaker 3: I was told this was the Buckingham Palace.
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  Speaker 2: I was told this was the Y2 for Kamala 2028 fundraiser.
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  Speaker 2: We're not doing a telethon for Kamala Harris?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 2: So Julia recommended this film and I figured, Clint, you
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  Speaker 2: might enjoy a lot of it because of the Kabbalah
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  Speaker 2: aspects to it and the Nazis. We always talk about
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  Speaker 2: Schindler over there on your show there at the Clint
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  Speaker 2: Eastwood show. A lot of Nazis.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Schindler Gruber.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what his name is now?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's his name.
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  Speaker 2: Did he change it like Ilhan Omar changed her name?
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  Speaker 3: That's German for shit. And then his last name was,
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  Speaker 3: which is.
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  Speaker 2: They went hardcore on the Joseph Mengele Nazi twin experiments
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  Speaker 2: in this. Obviously, not the first time that we've seen
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  Speaker 2: such things in film. The Boys of Brazil obviously comes
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  Speaker 2: to mind. American Horror Story. Is this the first time
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  Speaker 2: they've done that in a horror fashion?
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  Speaker 4: No, American Horror Story, they did that. Yeah, Ryan Murphy.
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  Speaker 4: I can't remember if it was the second season. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it was the second season. Asylum. They had a doctor
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  Speaker 4: that was like a Mengele type doctor. And he was
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  Speaker 4: doing experiments on people and twins. And somehow they roped
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  Speaker 4: in extraterrestrials into all of it. I just think this
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  Speaker 4: one is scary. But also, it could be based on
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  Speaker 4: a lot of true shit. Oh, look at the Halloween background.
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  Speaker 4: I love it. I'm here for it.
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  Speaker 2: Spooky frames.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It's spooky season all month, ma'am. This is spooky films.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing a night of the living dead next Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: That was Phil's recommendation. That's going to be a real
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  Speaker 2: barn burner, but I want to thank all you folks here,
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  Speaker 2: folks in the interwebs as well for joining me here
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  Speaker 2: tonight to go to GCD on tonight's barn burner, the
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  Speaker 2: in a cult and or esoteric review of, Of the
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  Speaker 2: 2009 demonic masterpiece, The Unborn. Brought to you by Michael Bay.
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  Speaker 2: From the Transformers era of Michael Bay. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: figure he'd be busy.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know what they say.
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  Speaker 5: It's a Michael Bay film.
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  Speaker 4: They say that his ass was up at Zorro Ranch
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  Speaker 4: doing all type of nasty shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to say, yeah, he's got some
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  Speaker 2: rumors out there, don't he?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, he does. Which sucks, because I'm pretty sure he's
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  Speaker 4: responsible for a bunch of movies I like, but that
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  Speaker 4: doesn't mean.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's done so many movies.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that doesn't mean he's a good person.
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  Speaker 2: He kind of looks like an Epstein friend, though, doesn't he?
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  Speaker 2: You were like, hey, do you know Jeffrey Epstein?
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  Speaker 5: He was like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Did you take one look at this guy?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You and Epstein are quite friends.
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  Speaker 6: With Michael Bay, yeah, he was kind of like, he
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  Speaker 6: was a part of the Simpson-Bruckheimer universe, and Don Simpson
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  Speaker 6: was fucking degenerate.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that was a.
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  Speaker 6: Guy who died on the toilet from the amount of
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  Speaker 6: cocaine he did, but also used to like to beat
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  Speaker 6: up prostitutes.
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  Speaker 5: So, wouldn't be a surprise.
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  Speaker 3: Don't talk about Jonah like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they call that the Hollywood two-step. You do the cocaine,
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  Speaker 2: and then the second step is beating the prostitute. What
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  Speaker 2: about the toilet?
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  Speaker 4: Where does the toilet come in?
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  Speaker 5: Everything in Hollywood involves the toilet. I mean, hey, it's
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  Speaker 5: how Elvis died, but allegedly.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, Don Simpson, yeah, he died on the toilet
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  Speaker 6: after doing a shit ton of cocaine.
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  Speaker 5: I think they dedicated.
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  Speaker 6: Crimson Tide to his memory because that was like one
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  Speaker 6: of the last movies Simpson Bruckheimer produced.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah he was I mean total.
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  Speaker 6: Shitbag but kind of like a lot of those other
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  Speaker 6: guys in Hollywood what's his name Joel Silber the one
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  Speaker 6: that they'd Tarantino would kind of parody in True Romance.
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  Speaker 5: With the guy Lee Donowitz.
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  Speaker 2: Oh is that who that's supposed to be in True
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  Speaker 2: Romance that's who yeah Tom Cruise is supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: in Tropic Thunder and his fat dancing guy producer. That's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be Joel Silvers.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Joel Silvers. Love the character. Oh my God.
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  Speaker 4: So you're saying like Michael Bay was tied up with
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  Speaker 4: these assholes?
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  Speaker 5: Definitely.
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  Speaker 2: Look where he gets his start.
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  Speaker 5: George Lucas.
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  Speaker 2: He got his start in the film industry and turning
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  Speaker 2: with George Lucas when he was 15 years old. filling
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  Speaker 2: not only the storyboards for Raiders of the Lost Ark,
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  Speaker 2: but probably other things, too.
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  Speaker 4: So, I can't remember who it was, but I think
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  Speaker 4: it was like.
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  Speaker 4: You know how they brought a bunch of supermodels and
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  Speaker 4: shit like that out to Zorro Ranch and Epstein Island,
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  Speaker 4: and now they're all talking? I think it was a former...
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  Speaker 4: supermodel or something like that who said that she saw
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  Speaker 4: Michael Bay out there and that there was something to
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  Speaker 4: do with something with extraterrestrials with him too.
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  Speaker 6: That might have been Julia Bryant. I've seen her a
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  Speaker 6: lot on Twitter. She's the one who said she's seen
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  Speaker 6: Michael Bay doing some bad stuff. And she's the one
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  Speaker 6: who said she saw Epstein shapeshift.
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  Speaker 5: Right. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So her name is Juliet Bryant.
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  Speaker 2: Say what now?
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  Speaker 4: Her name is Juliet Bryant.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: I got that part.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: The shape-shifting part. I've never heard that story before.
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  Speaker 3: Shut up. No.
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  Speaker 4: They be saying it.
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  Speaker 2: I completely missed that. Yeah, I generally avoid all things reptilian.
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  Speaker 2: Call me crazy, but.
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  Speaker 4: They're not always necessarily saying that he shapeshifts into a
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  Speaker 4: reptilian form. They sometimes say he just looks like a demon,
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  Speaker 4: like his face gets all twisted up. And according to
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  Speaker 4: some of them, he had some kind of inhuman thing
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  Speaker 4: going on with his pee-pee. And it wasn't right. It
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  Speaker 4: didn't look normal. It didn't look good. So maybe.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had something wrong with his pee-pee.
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  Speaker 2: It's a family show, ma'am. We can't describe egg-shaped penises.
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  Speaker 2: It's a family show.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if it was egg-shaped, but
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  Speaker 4: some of them say it was just off. It was
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  Speaker 4: just weird. I don't know if it was reptilian or not.
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  Speaker 2: According to his Florida depositions, you can find the video
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  Speaker 2: online on the interwebs here. One of the victim's attorneys
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  Speaker 2: asked him down there in the Florida case, back in
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  Speaker 2: the early aughts or mid aughts, their late aughts, whatever
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  Speaker 2: the aughts were, said, does it true? Do you have
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  Speaker 2: a small egg shaped penis? And he just looked at
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  Speaker 2: his attorney, takes the microphone off.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, I'm done.
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  Speaker 4: So does that mean like, is it's like a chode,
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  Speaker 4: like just short and fat or is it literally like
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  Speaker 4: egg as in he's going to lay eggs in you?
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  Speaker 4: Like it's like an egg depositor shit. Have you seen those?
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  Speaker 4: You can get those online. People will be into that shit.
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  Speaker 4: Egg depositors.
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  Speaker 5: Good news.
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  Speaker 2: I think we can ask the man because I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he's dead in the first place. Anyhow, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: realize that there was these reptilian rumors around him now.
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  Speaker 2: That's brand new information.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, some people I've always on a more
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  Speaker 4: serious note, I've always said that I don't know how
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  Speaker 4: much I believe of people turning into like reptilian forms.
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  Speaker 4: But I do think that shape shifting to some degree
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  Speaker 4: does exist. So maybe he was just possessed by the
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  Speaker 4: devil and his face got all twisted up. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe he had his own Divyuk because that's where
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  Speaker 2: we're at with tonight's tale, right?
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  Speaker 5: The tale of the Divyuk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's Jewish, isn't he?
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  Speaker 4: They'd be having their shit.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Bay? Yeah, Michael Bay's Jewish.
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  Speaker 4: And Epstein, isn't he?
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  Speaker 5: Allegedly.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well, allegedly these dibbicks get attached to the Jewish people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's so... I'm glad you said that. So, like,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm a Scots-Irish fella, Scots-Irish-Cherokee fella, can I get
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  Speaker 2: my own dibby oak, or do we have different kinds
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  Speaker 2: of dibby oaks?
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  Speaker 4: It's just like, I feel like that word is just
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  Speaker 4: like a Yiddish word. maybe for demon.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 5: Demon.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like they just have like their special like word for it.
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  Speaker 4: It's an ancient word. Probably that means demon, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure every, every culture has got a word for this thing.
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  Speaker 4: There was another horror movie I watched though, that focused
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  Speaker 4: on this Dybbuk box. I don't know if you've ever
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  Speaker 4: heard about it. It's a real thing that exists. The
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  Speaker 4: guy from Ghost Adventures owns one, and he has it
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  Speaker 4: in his.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Zach Douchebaggins?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He has one, a Dybbuk box. And it's supposedly like
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  Speaker 4: a little... It looks like a jewelry box, but it's cursed.
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  Speaker 4: And it has one of these things attached to it.
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  Speaker 4: And if you touch it or open it.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard of this now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It'll get on you if you touch it or open
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  Speaker 4: it or whatever. It's like the Annabelle doll. You know
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  Speaker 4: about this stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Haunted your ass. You can't touch it.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know about Robert the doll. He's the son
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  Speaker 2: of a bitch, to tell you that much. Yeah, did
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  Speaker 2: you touch it? I don't want to besmirch him because
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  Speaker 2: I don't want him to start haunting me again or
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  Speaker 2: cursing me again. I feel like I'm clear of that,
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  Speaker 2: but I do think that there are demonic things that
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  Speaker 2: at least Things of a supernatural nature that we otherwise
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  Speaker 2: describe as demonic in this world. Because I've seen it.
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  Speaker 2: I got cursed by a doll for like 13 years.
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  Speaker 2: Because you touched it. Maybe that was my dibby oak.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Robert the doll is my little dibby oak.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he... Well, it could have just... The doll could
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  Speaker 4: have had one of these things attached to it. That's
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  Speaker 4: for sure.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, the guy, the guy, the ghost
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  Speaker 4: adventures guy, he's into a lot of occult ritualism and
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  Speaker 4: some nasty shit himself. So I don't know how much
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  Speaker 4: I believe him, but yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What do you expect to have a man who wears
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  Speaker 2: bedazzled jeans, ma'am?
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  Speaker 4: And he has a faux Hawk and it's 2026. Like,
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  Speaker 4: come on. Nobody's doing a faux Hawk in 2026, but the,
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  Speaker 4: and he owns David Koresh's car.
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  Speaker 2: And his museum's in an old Masonic Lodge, right? Clint,
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  Speaker 2: did you know that old Zach Bedazzled Jeans Douchebaggins from
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  Speaker 2: Ghost Adventures bought out the old Las Vegas Masonic Lodge
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  Speaker 2: to put his museum in?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, that's weird.
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  Speaker 8: There's a Redman Society museum in Waco that's like a
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  Speaker 8: quasi-Masonic owner.
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  Speaker 3: Oh. Like I said, you were talking about his car, Andrews.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but dude's in all sorts of weird shit. So
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  Speaker 2: what's this Dybbuk box he's got supposed to do? Is
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  Speaker 2: it supposed to just have a Dybbuk in it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got one in it, actually. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's similar. There was a horror movie about a Dybbuk box,
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  Speaker 4: and a little girl gets one at a yard sale.
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  Speaker 4: And she brings it home, and she's like, look, I
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  Speaker 4: found this at a yard sale for like two bucks.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like a cursed... It's got one of these
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  Speaker 4: Dybbuk's attached to it and she's got to get an
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  Speaker 4: exorcism and all type of shit. But I think here's
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  Speaker 4: the difference just from what I've read. It's not a
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  Speaker 4: demon of like a disembodied thing. That's never been human.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: It's a, it's a weird dead person who was evil,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: who becomes this thing in the afterlife and they get
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: attached to objects and Yeah, something like that, basically, is
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: what it is.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: It's Robert the Doll.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: It's Chucky.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: There's a soul in that, and some sort of demon,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: demonic dead soul has been put into that doll or whatnot.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: This one seems to just traverse kind of willy-nilly. I
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: don't know if that's standard Dybbuk activity. The first time
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I'd ever heard the term Dybbuk, which is, again, the
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: focus of tonight's film, we get introduced to the Dybbuk
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: kind of moment one, like in the first minute and
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: a half of the film.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: There's almost more character building for building the character up
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: in the film of the Dybbuk as opposed to Idris Elba,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: who just pops in, hey, I'm a basketball coach slash exorcist.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: That was the tiniest role ever.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't really build up his character at all.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: They're just like, surprise. They give you a Shyamalan twist
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: of Idris Elba.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: He might have you might've filmed that in between his
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: brief role on the office. So, you know, it wouldn't,
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: wouldn't surprise me if they're like, yeah, we'll squeeze that in.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: We got you in for Wednesday this week. You know,
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, you can still hear trace of the accent too. Right.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: In the movie.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Well, I actually think.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the first time I've ever heard of
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: a divic. Well, I was just going to say.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: I.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Actually think the beginning of the movie where it's like
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: a dream sequence and they've got all this weird symbolism
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: with the dog with the upside down head and then
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: you see like the little boy or whatever. The first
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: time I watched this movie, I went to the theater.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I sat in the theater and And I just thought
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: it was the creepiest shit of all time. I was
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: like you, I had never heard of this stuff before.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: And I thought it was kind of innovative that they
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: didn't just go like exorcist where it's just like the
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: girl gets possessed and she's in bed going, you know,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: they kind of made it more based on reality type stuff.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Like with the, They included like the Nazi stuff and
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: this whole backstory that you did. You don't really get
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: in a lot of just like demon possession movies.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not your regular old, not your regular old
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: fashioned demon possession here. This little boy creeped me the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: shit out, though, I'll tell you that much.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, little baby Putin?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I don't like baby ghosts. I don't like baby demons, dude.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I don't like children killers, dude. This film's got them all, dude.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck, guys?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, little baby Putin.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I just don't like yeah they put they got that
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: kid stabbing people as a demon dude i'm like you
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: put them all together all the things i hate you
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: put them all together in one thing.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Oh there's an esoteric uh movie month killer.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Kids yeah right dude fuck dude i just oh my
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: god to institute throughout our entertainment entertainment industry You know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: amongst many other things I find kind of.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Have you seen the Macaulay Culkin movie?
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: The Good Son. I was just thinking that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I hated that movie. I'd seen that movie.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: When it came out.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck is this, dude?
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: They did... I remember when I was a kid, they
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: did a double feature. HBO's The Good Son. And then
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: they did a straight-to-video one called Mikey with Brian Bonsell,
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: who was the baby brother, Andy, on Family Ties. as
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: a kid who's like wiped out his family.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: And then like basically becomes, you know, winds up like
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: getting adopted and then does the exact same thing all
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: over again.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: I remember seeing the good son in theaters. Like what
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: the fuck is this?
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah. This was out before the good son. I'm just
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: about like a year or so.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: The good son, I think was one of the movies
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: where Macaulay Culkin's psychotic father can't kind of put pressure
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: on the studios to make sure he got 20 million
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: or something like that for that movie.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: No joke, huh?
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's an okay movie. It's not that great.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, yeah. And that movie, he... One
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: of the people he... Macaulay Culkin.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a lot of money, dude, for that time, right?
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, God, yeah. That was 93? So yeah, that was
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: a good amount of money.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, that was like Jim Carrey money for doing
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: Cable Guy.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Right, right. Yeah, the movie didn't even make that much,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: did it?
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe it did.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: You know, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's technically considered
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: a success. But yeah, I mean, people think back to,
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: you know, I mean, obviously the more family friendly movies.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: And yeah, it's a movie where he winds up killing
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: like his brother tries to kill his cousin. And, you know, yeah,
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: it's and yeah, Elijah Wood. Elijah Wood, who basically is
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: the one trying to convince others of how psychotic his
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: own cousin is, is basically the one treated like he's nuts.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of that into it. The mom from
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: Santa Claus is in it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: It's a good movie. Of course, the other is a
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: fucked up movie.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Don't worry, Michael Jackson never diddled him.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Very true. Only Corey Feldman.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson enjoyed having himself a Culkin sandwich. We get
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Rory Culkin in that one, too. He admittedly told Barbara
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Walters there on that one interview that he liked to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: have a Culkin sandwich there in his bed. Time will tell,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I suppose. I'm kind of on the fence about it myself.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Macaulay Culkin is certainly a dark character, if you ask me.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: He was with Mila Kunis for many years. He had
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that whole pizza underground band, which was based upon the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: uh the you know the velvet underground i was looking
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: at the velvet underground pizza tribute band it's creepy shit
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: man yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I cannot tell you how many times i've referenced the
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: good son to people when i'm in like an argument
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: with them and i'm uh the first off i was
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: really young when i watched it my mom insisted that
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: i watch it and ever it's just stuck with me
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: and every time i get in an argument with someone
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: i'm like see if we were both hanging off a
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: cliff i swear to god you'd drop me like it's
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: just it's a perfect analogy for every time you're in
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: an argument with somebody if we were both hanging off
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: a cliff you'd pick her and not me fuck you
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: i'm macaulay or no i'm elijah wood You're going to
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: let me die.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Here's the problem. You start messing with Elijah Wood, then
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: you get Sean Astin in the situation. You start messing
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: with Sean Astin. You don't want to do that. Then
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: you get Corey Feldman involved. No one wants that.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, God, no.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: No, thank you. You got some kind of a clip here, JJ?
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: What movie's creepier? Yeah, I have the whole film here
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: lined up. If you have a specific clip dialed up
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: or in mind, let me know. But I remember after
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: this scene creeped me out, the next thing that I
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: really saw was that Homegirl was wearing a red Kabbalah
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: bracelet early on in the film by the five-minute mark here.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: We'll see it.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: But before we get to that point, I wanted to
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: ask you all, which film was creepier, this one or
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: The Good Son? Because they definitely are both psychologically kind
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: of thrillers. Of a different variety, but they both have
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: creepy children in it. So they're similar in that aspect.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I'll go first on creepiness level. I'm going to go
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: with this one. But as a mother, it's almost hard
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: to choose because as a mother thinking about dropping my
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: own kid off a cliff because I know he's evil.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I'm the type of mom that would be like, fuck y'all.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I don't care if my son is evil. I'm still,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I'm going to still drop the other kid off the cliff.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? I got to look after
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: my own flesh and blood. I've waited to have kids
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: for so long.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's fair. That's fair.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: I could have the antichrist on my hands right now.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: And I'd be like, Oh, I fucked up. Oh, well,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: I guess I'm just going to have to roll with it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: But just creepiness, I'm going to go with the unborn.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: But as a mother, it's very psychologically traumatizing to watch
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: the good son. Just saying.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure. For sure. It's certainly more real life, right?
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: There's no demons in that one, right? So it is
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: kind of more spooky in the real life aspect to it.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: What about you, Phil? How do you feel about The
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Good Son or The Unborn? How about The Unborn and.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: The Good Son? I would have to say The Unborn
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: is definitely creepier.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: These are all great films. Go ahead, sir.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: That's all right. When I was younger, when I watched
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: The Good Son for the first time, it was like
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: one of those.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Movies where you just feel weird watching it. The whole
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: thing is about discomfort. Again, with Macaulay Culkin's character in
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: that movie, Henry, He's just I mean, he's completely like psychotic.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I mean, when he basically tells
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: his cousin that, yeah, you know, he he killed his
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: younger brother. I mean, he hints at it, you know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: not directly says it. There's there's no remorse, you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: it's just in the end he wants he wants to be.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: He wants to be the favored son. And yet, like, yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, his behavior, that shooting the dog at one
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: point and, you know, throwing something over a highway overpass.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is someone who's going to escalate until
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: next thing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: You know, they're frigging, you know, they're luring strangers into
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: their apartment and, you know, eating them sort of thing.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, like this. Jeffrey Dahmer shit.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Dahmer shit.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: That's why I said the good son is creepy in
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: its own way because it's like, what if that was
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: really your kid? What would you do? And again, Jeffrey
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Dahmer has a mom out there, and she's probably not
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: unlike me. It's like, whoops, I fucked up. My kid's
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Jeffrey Dahmer.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: What am I?
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Like, what do you do? You still love him. You're
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: still going to love him.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: There's the, there's the innate, there's the primal, it's the
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: need to protect.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: It's sorry, not that he.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: Or she is yours, but there's, you're going to want
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: to protect, unless there's something that's so cross the Rubicon
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: sort of moment, you know, like where it's a threat,
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: you know, to you or to something, you know, someone
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: else that is close to you, like on that same level, that's,
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: that's a different, that could be a different discussion, but still,
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: you'd probably still try to protect that person. to where
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: at least you can maybe just kind of like injure them,
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: push them to the side, something where it's.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Like, okay.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: But keep them there you know and hope they get
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: the help but yeah and the good son like yeah
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: that's there's the scene where you just hear Elijah Wood's
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: voiceover when he I think basically he says something along
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: the lines of like if I could ask my aunt.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Would she still make that decision you know.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: You know years you know just down the line and
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: she's like i know she wouldn't answer it's like yeah
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: no because it was a decision i think she still
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: fought over like when you see that scene when she
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: which one am i going to drop and in the
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: end like and then henry says i love you mom
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: and then she still drops and then you hear that
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: that home alone scream as he plummets which is kind
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: of unfortunately a comical aspect to it i mean but
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: you know like.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah I mean, maybe I'm just a horrible person because
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: especially when he's like, I love you, mom. I'd be like, Oh,
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: I'm dropping McCully right now. That's my baby. I can't
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: drop him off a cliff.
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: I think the real mom would have saved them both
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: and then whooped the shit out of McCully.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: I just, you know what I think of and JJ,
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: this is getting on the killer kids variety pet cemetery.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: When after Gage.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: Runs amok and when Lewis goes to bring him in
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: and Jackson is like, no fair.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: No fair.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: And that scene gets me every time. Meanwhile, it's like
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: the kid fucking killed the mom.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Oh, dude.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Super creepy, dude.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: So creepy. It kills you to watch. Yeah, because again....
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: If you, let's just say you never saw Pet Sematary
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: and you got a Pet Sematary in your backyard and
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: your kid dies like that, you're going to try it. Sorry,
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: but you would. If there's somebody who would say, no,
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't try it, you're fucking lying. Because if there
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: was a possibility you could bring them back, especially like
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: a little two-year-old, three-year-old, it's a baby still. You're going
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: to try to bring them back. I'm not going to lie.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: I might let him knife a couple people before I
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: call it quits. We could get him a little cage
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: or something. We don't have to tell the neighbors what's
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: going on just yet.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: There's an article about a.
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: Crucible that they would put dead people in and then
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: they would come back to life, but their wounds wouldn't
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: be healed.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I think you're talking about med beds, sir. Don't worry.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Trust the plan. It's going to save us all. So
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: what's going on with this scene? This speaking of pet cemeteries.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: This is creepy.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: This is creepy. This is real creepy. Can you all
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: see this scene? Am I frozen?
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: No, I thought you was going to play it. I
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: was waiting for you to play it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, I can play it. I was just saying, what's up?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: She turns around and sees the little demon dibby boy,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: which turns out to be her spoiler alert. Turns out
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to be her dead twin brother. But then she turns
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: back around on her jog and there's this dog, like
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: a pit bull wearing, I mean, it's not really a
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Jason mask, but it kind of looks William Shatner-esque.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: That's not normal. It does.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, JJ, my first thought, because of all
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: of the other occultism throughout the movie, is that you
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: always see in these types of movies that the dog
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: star is represented.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, there you.
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: Go.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: They're dog star worshippers, all of them. And so the
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: very first scene in this movie, we see the demon
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: depicted as this black dog. And so, that's the first, serious,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: that's the first thing I thought of.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: So, but it's not really a demon, though. It's the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: disembodied spirit demon kind, I guess, of her dead brother, though.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: It's not like a Zazel the demon or Beazelbub the demon, right?
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: It's her dead brother the demon, right?
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to put the cart before the
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: horse or anything.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: It's Matt Demon.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: But you remember, you remember when they start breaking all
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: this down and the grandma is trying to explain to
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: her about this demon. And she says that, see.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I don't Jane Alexander.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: We're at the beginning of the movie. I don't want
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: to jump to the middle and give away all the
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: meat and potatoes.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: That's fine.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: And that's fine. That's fine. We can keep cruising. I
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: just want to point out the creepy. I like how you, uh,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: interpreted that as the dog star stuff because that's what
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Clinton and I were talking about over there. All these
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: occultists are real serious about Sirius.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, sure they are. They're always included. It's the opening
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: scene of the movie.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: We're two minutes and 22 seconds into it. I'm sure
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: that's some sort of numerological significance.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: I'm sure.
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: The word Sirius in Aramaic was Astara. And then the
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: Nazis interpreted it as Ostara. And then that's the name
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: of the magazine that, uh, Shizer Gruber had 51 copies of.
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: It was the concealed serious goddess.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Of the Nazis.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Uh, this is interesting.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: It creeped me. It creeped me the shit out. I'll
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: tell you that much right now. This, this, this whole sequence,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: the startup film was, I was like, what, why are
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: they putting an end to it?
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Like the dog.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Because this is all a dream, right? They don't really
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: hit you off. It seems real at first. But it's
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: really a dream sequence. Because then she goes digging through
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: the mud here to find this dog where this mask is.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: And it's a baby fetus. Boom. Which, you know, that's
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: a bit right in your face hole with some psychological
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: kind of jump scare.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: She's a big Margaret Singer fan.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Huge Margaret Singer fan. Huge Margaret Singer fan. Margaret Singer
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: and Margaret Singer's buddy, Bill Gates Sr. And on that note,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: hold that thought there, gents. I want to thank you
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: all for joining us here tonight to get a little GCD.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: We're going to take a quick intermission here.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: What's going on? Are you in some kind of trouble?
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: Listen, Kurt Cobain didn't kill himself.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: You understand? He's not even dead. He and Vince Foster.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: Are living near Mount St.
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: Helens.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: You're kidding.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: It's not their idea.
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: They're being blackmailed into it. But the man responsible is
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: so rich, so powerful, he'll stop at nothing to make
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: sure this information stays suppressed.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: What's his name?
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: I can't tell you that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Bill Gates. Bill Gates? What does he want from you?
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: My brain.
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's already got half of it. I fell
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: asleep at Newark Airport, and now I'm this close to
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: taking my own life so that I can stop the apocalypse.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Welcome back here, folks, to the interwebs and demon fetus
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: here on the screen still.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: I apologize.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: So, RIP Screech, yeah. That was Zach Morris there. Where
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: do we begin here next? Because we see this girl
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: is going through a lot of shit, right? And this
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: creature seems to be haunting her back to her house
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: like those fellas from the Skinwalker Ranch claim they have
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: these demonic entities that follow them home. I think they're
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: full of shit, but that's what we see in this
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: film is that kind of that kind of concept was
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: wherever this, this gal goes is she's, uh, she's being
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: stalked by her dead baby brother twin.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like that.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Nope.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: We lost Clint.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like that.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: You're back, sir.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: You're back.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: Where it's like this, the spirit as five elements or
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: something in the, one of the shadow and like the, uh,
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: but it's like, since she was a twin, and her
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: brother died, they shared the shadow, and so he was
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: able to connect with her through the shadow.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: The one-fifth element of the spirit in Egyptian.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but she becomes very paranoid after becoming the centerpiece
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: to a series of supernatural and strange events.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Well, then the breaking of the mirrors.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: There's an app description here on Wikipedia.
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like the breaking of the mirrors. It's like.
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: If somebody dies in Hebrew, they cover all the mirrors
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: because they believe the mirrors are like windows for spirits.
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: And so they're breaking the mirrors and then burning it
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: to destroy the doors. It's like it's interesting because.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: That's what we get in the opening sequence there, right?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Where she's babysitting and that young boy she's babysitting who
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: would later become Part kind of demonic boy, part regular boy.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Different boy from the Dibby Yook boy. You got another
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: young creepy boy, but he slashes your face with that
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: broken glass, right?
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: From the mirror.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I think I was really stoned.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah. It was within the first... Yeah, that's where we
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: get pretty crazy.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Pretty early on, yeah.
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: These concepts, like, think of, like, the Holy Grail or, like,
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: these other, like, legendary artifacts. It's like, they're not a
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: real thing. It's some kind of symbolic thing of the
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: words where the, uh, kind of like a Gollum where
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: the Gollum wasn't a real clay thing. It was some
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: kind of symbol like, uh, like, uh, like, like, uh,
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: what does that thing? Like an aggregate or something like, uh,
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: but the, uh, it's like these ancient stories and stuff.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: They're, the people.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he sliced her up, dude.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: His little baby poon.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he's so creepy, dude. They could not have
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: casted a creepier kid in this role.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: Welcome back, man.
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, he's not that far off in terms
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: of creepy as the kid who played Gage in Pet Sematary,
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: you know?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: No, he definitely reminded me of that for sure, yeah. Meanwhile,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: he's portrayed as being really young. The kid was like 10,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: 11 years old because of his condition.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: This little boy in particular was a fucking asshole. And
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: I would have, I don't care if he's a kid
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: or not. Some of the shit stunts he pulled, I
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: would have stabbed his ass up. He was homicidal as
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: a motherfucker. He was trying to kill his little brother.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Let me just back up for a second though, because
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I was, it sounds like he's got Webster's disease.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: He's got something, but I don't know if you guys
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: already covered this while I was moving over here, but the,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: the character that Megan good place, she's got all this
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: inside fucking info and they're always referencing back to her.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: And she's like, Oh, you're having bad dreams. Sleep with
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: a pair of scissors open under your pillow. And, Oh,
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: this is happening. Cover up all the mirrors in your house.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: She's like an esoteric dictionary that they just call her
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: up and they're like, oh, I'm seeing little dead boys
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: in my dreams and my eyeballs trying to fall out.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Totally normal.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: All you have to do is sprinkle some salt on
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: your doorstep. And, like, she's got the cure-all for everything.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: But a lot of the stuff that she says is, like,
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: true stuff. I heard you guys talking about the mirrors. Like,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: that's the realest shit ever. About when someone dies or, like,
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: you know, like, scrying and all that. The mirrors are, like,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: windows or doorways or whatever. And so a lot of
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: the stuff that her character says is, like, the realest shit.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: in occultism.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: That wasn't, I thought that was, that was probably my
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: favorite part. Cause I recently just started learning about the,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: the cabala, um, through a weights book on the cabala.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Read that one recently. Um, and, uh, wait, wait, dude,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: who are you trying to make weight, dude? We're in
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the middle of a show, sir.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: No.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I said, Hey, wait, nice name. Yeah.
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: He's a high mason, but he's also a whatchamacallit, a sugarcoater.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: He's a shitcoater, huh?
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: Well, it's like he's an apologist towards the occult because
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: it's like there's always a double standard with the occult.
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: There's the occultists that are more atheistic and believe it's
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: all metaphors and stuff, and then there's these side of
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: the occult where there's spiritualists and they believe that they're
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: contacting the dead and all this stuff.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: How do you know they're not?
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: Not well, the, uh, I think it's, you remember that
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: scene in the true lives when we were to pick
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: the guys up and you like hold them over the cliff, right?
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: If that were to, you know, like, metaphorically happen or
• 43:50
  Speaker 8: so somebody would be like okay it's fake it's.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: Fake right.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Well ae weight was one of those major figures of
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: the cross-section of a lot of these occult cult practices
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: right and he did i mean i i don't know
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: i don't have a basis of comparison but i felt
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: i i learned a lot from his book it was
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: a wealth of information he's really smart he's.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: A good writer I actually might disagree, I guess, a
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: little bit, because I think a lot of these assholes
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: wouldn't do half of the shit that they do unless
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: they saw some kind of results.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, the.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: the level, you know, you see it in like every
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: single major movie, all the symbolism and all the weirdness
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: and all the cult rituals in Hollywood and how intricate
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: they are and all this stuff that they do. It's like,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: at some point you'd be like, I'm not fucking doing
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: this anymore. If this is all fake, this is way
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: too much fucking work. This is way too much bullshittery
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: with the robes and the chanting and the sacrificing. And
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: if I ain't getting no damn result, it'd be like,
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: if you paid for a sandwich and they kept saying
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: they was going to give you a sandwich there no
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: i promise if you pay for this sandwich it's going
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: to be the best sandwich you ever had and you
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: keep doing shit i like sandwiches sandwich and the sandwich
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: don't never show up you'd be like i'm i'm not
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: even fucking hungry anymore i don't even want this.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I'm very hungry you can't be taunting me with sandwiches
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: ma'am this is not that's what i'm saying it's.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Like it's all about uh It's the carrot on the
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: stick or whatever, you know, that if you do this,
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: you'll get, you know, it, you just have to do
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: more practices and more. They keep you on this hamster
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: wheel of like, you'll get the results. You'll get the results.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: You just got to do more, do more this, that
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: ritualism stuff. But at some point, if you're not going
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: to get any results whatsoever, you would just stop and
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: it would just be over with.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's about making people.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: I think that's a fair point.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: I'll go ahead.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: It's like when you're in masonry, it's like they ask
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: you every, every degree has the same purpose symbolically where
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: the initiate never understands. It's like they're, they simply want,
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: it's just like, like the Navy seals or something. They
• 46:05
  Speaker 8: want you to keep trying, keep asking for light. And
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: it's not about the gnosis quote. It's just about the
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: person believing and keep going. And like, it's like, uh,
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: it's like the wheel. That's why they make them into
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: true believers. It's like the person believes it's real, but
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: it's not actually happening. It's like my friend that has
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: El Chapo talking in his head. It's not actually happening.
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: He's talking to himself.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: We don't know that. We don't know the whereabouts of
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: El Chapo, sir. He may be in your friend's head
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: I just actually covered this like a couple of days ago.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: You guys know about like the Amityville horror and all that.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: And the guy who shot his whole family and Phil,
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm putting down.
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: So Ronnie DeFeo.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: That's Phil's neck of the woods right there. That's Long Island.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Ronnie DeFeo.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: He shot his whole family. Now there's a lot of
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: inconsistencies that support that he might've not acted alone in
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: those murders, but here's the thing. He said he heard
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: voices in his head that told him he had to
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: kill his whole family and that there was something in
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: the house with him. And he was also a very
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: heavy LSD user and he, his family had mob connections
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: and they were running drugs and doing all kinds of stuff.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: So God only knows. But at one point, at what
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: point do you kind of open your mind maybe from
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: drug use or whatever? And you have like, a supernaturally
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: induced hallucination where you're hearing voices and stuff. Cause a
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: lot of people will just say, Oh, they're schizophrenic or
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: they've got, there's, they have mental illness or something like that.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: But at what point have you done enough LSD or
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: you've went a little too far down the rabbit hole
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: where you've opened something up in your mind and you're
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: having hallucinations that nobody else can see and nobody else
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: can hear, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're, mentally
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: ill or you know what i'm saying it's like a
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: supernaturally induced psychosis and they go and do something like
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: murder their whole family or Or hear voices in their
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: head telling them to kill their whole family or they
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: you know what i'm saying? It's like i'm not going
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: to just jump and say everybody's possessed by the devil
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: But there is a supernatural realm And we don't know
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: how much of it is accessible through drug use and
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: and these other these rituals and shit like that so
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: But There.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Is a line sure that some of it is fake.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Well, when, what was it?
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's so much fake. I think it's...
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Phil.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: No, I was saying with, what was it, Albert Hoffman,
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: the guy who kind of synthesized LSD, the guy who was,
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: I think, working for Sandoz Pharmaceuticals. The experience he had
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: was almost like a supernatural experience that he wanted to
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: eventually replicate. Now, you can either have someone who has
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: these trips that just wind up being transformative, Or you
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: can have, like, I always think back to in a
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: personal experience, not myself, but in my family, where someone
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: had a trip, and they reverted to like the mind
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: of a five year old. Like, I mean, and that's
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: why like, when they talk about some of the stuff
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: like the MK ultra things, and what what lsd did
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: or maybe even it was it was doctored you know
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: who's to say i mean who knows the difference between
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: what was considered pure lsd or ones after the cia's
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: doctors like sydney gottlieb and some of those guys after they.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: Got yeah but there's an element of that with the
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: nazi stuff like they were trying to do they were
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: trying to alter the mind state of people they were
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: trying to incorporate the supernatural and paranormal into scientific research.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: And I think this movie actually does kind of a
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: good job in like showing the weird kind of, um,
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: ritualistic supernatural scientific angle of what was going on in
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: some of these concentration camps. But I do think that
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: the Nazis were, um, Using ritualism. Spiritualism. And they were
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: opening doors to shit. That they didn't have any idea
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: what was going on. They for sure were using. Like.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Because they were using like the best doctors. And the
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: best scientists. And we even took some of them. Obviously.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: We were like oh yeah. We'll spare you guys.
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: Come on over.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: We'll do NASA shit with you. But there is ritualism
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: involved in that. And they are getting some kind of results.
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: Well, plus, like, it's interesting because, like, the word Holocaust
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: means burnt offering. It's like the Nazis may have been
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: killing people for a kind of ceremony.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: See, that's what I'm saying, man. That's what I'm saying.
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: That is exactly. Thank you. That is exactly what I'm saying.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: There is always. And, JJ, you know, because I say
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: this all the time after reading Program to Kill. There
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: is the government and people like to put this big
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: or it's ritualism, but they can never put those two
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: things together. Like it's government funded ritualism or like it's right.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: Like they think it's.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: One of the camps.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's, I think you're spot on, man. I
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: think it's one of the biggest misconceptions of what we
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: know is MK ultra. It's not just mind control. I
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: do think there's a lot of occultism. baked into those processes.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: That is what you're describing, the scientific application of occultism
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: as perpetrated by the Nazis, and that's who started MKUltra.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: That stuff was born out of Switzerland with the Dulles
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: brothers operating in a post-World War II situation. They started
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: that human experimentation over in international waters, so to speak,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: wanting to bring it closer to home.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, obviously I don't want to get
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: too far away from what's going on in the movie,
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: but I do feel like they slipped a couple things
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: in with the, the Megan good character with her. Oh,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: just open a pair of scissors under your pillow and throw,
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: throw salt on your doorway and cover your mirrors. And
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: that is all like, that's like beginner ritualism type stuff.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: That's like voodoo stuff, right?
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Or, you know, whatever. It's like entry-level ritualism. But in
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: the middle of the movie, it starts, like, really picking
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: up when she meets her, I guess she's a Holocaust
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: survivor grandma that she didn't know she had. Then, like,
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: the heavy ritualism stuff gets opened up and we meet
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Gary Oldman kind of towards the middle to end of
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: the movie and he's a full-blown priest, rabbi. He's got
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: some kind of bull's horn he's going to blow. All creepy,
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: by the way. Super creepy.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: And they named him after... She's got a pretty.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Vanilla kind of situation with her filmography, right? This is
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: kind of like out of the ordinary, right?
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: Well, she was in Stomp the Yard, which I really like.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: It's not a movie anybody should watch.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: She's in Friday.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: She's in Friday.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: She was in a season of Californication, David Duchovny's show,
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: so not too vanilla.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's been in some stuff. She's been in some stuff.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: I actually have seen her in quite a few things, but,
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: you know, she's like some weird witchy type of person
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: in this movie, and she does get murdered. She gets
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: all the way murdered, sacrificed by the little demon boy.
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: And she gets sliced up, diced up, taint slashed right
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: in the middle of the movie.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Drink one for the taint reference.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't disagree, ma'am. I don't disagree.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: This is the Megan Good lookalike.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was in Kindergarten Cop. Who was your daddy
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: and what does he do? It's an Ivan Reitman classic.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: She was in Cloverfield. That was all right. No, it wasn't.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: It was bad.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Spielberg, right?
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: It was not good.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, Beverly Hills, Chihuahua.
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: Spielberg.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, just JJ Abrams.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: No, I don't. I didn't really. I wasn't too familiar
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: with this cast. I mean, obviously Gary Oldman. He's kind
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: of a legend. But I wasn't familiar with these two
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: female leads. I mean, they were okay. The male lead,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: this guy was terrible. Fire this guy, dude. Get him
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: out of here, dude. Oh, really?
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Because he was a big star in the Twilight saga.
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, was he?
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Is that why he got in this film, was the
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Twilight fame?
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: He's not a good actor.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: I thought he was so cute the first time I
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: saw him in Twilight.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Right. I can see why they cast him in that
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: regard for the ladies.
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: He did get nominated for an MTV Movie Award, JJ.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: They don't just give those away.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: They don't just hand those out, right?
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: They don't just hand out those popcorn trophies to amateurs, man.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: You just don't go around getting a Teen Choice Award
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: for being the best villain. Not everyone who gets out
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: of bed gets those, you know what I mean?
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: So you were glad when he died.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's my favorite scene. That's my favorite scene in
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: the entire film right here. I was so happy they
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: killed off his character. I was like, thank God.
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: I did a little bit of that.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, yay.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Well, they killed him off, but not before he impregnated
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: our main character with the.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. The demon seed.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: The demon seed. The double demon seed.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: That is what they infer.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: Well, Go ahead, ma'am. Go ahead.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, I was just going to say, because this
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: movie is all about twins. And again, if we're going
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: on ritualism, we already have dog star stuff and all this.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: This little boy shines a mirror in his baby brother's face.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: And they say babies aren't supposed to see their reflection
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: before a certain age. And they're just I mean, all
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: of it with the mirrors and the twins and twins
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: are just mirrors of each other and dog star stuff
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: and Nazi stuff. This is one of those horror movies
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: where it's like, oh my God, you get to the
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: end of it and you're like, that's probably some real shit.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: Like everything in there is probably some real shit.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of real shit, they tow the line between
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: reality and these nightmare fuel dreamscapes she's having, these hallucinations
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: and whatnot. And then we get that right after the
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: boy slashes her face. And then we see later that
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: boy bends reality, that he tows the line between reality
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: and dreamscapes as well. But she comes here and picks
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: up that blue glove, right, that we see at the
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: beginning of the movie with the dibby demon fella, right?
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: So is that a real glove? Or is she just hallucinating?
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: We may never know.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: We may never know.
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: It could be some symbolism stuff.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: You said there was a red thing earlier, didn't you?
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she was wearing like a red bracelet or a
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: red shirt.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was wearing a Kabbalah bracelet. I'm sorry I
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: missed that part.
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: Go ahead.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a.
• 58:01
  Speaker 8: Symbol of Esau and Jacob or something where it's like
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: the one baby came out first or something and they
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: put a string around his wrist and then he went
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: back in and then the other one.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Came out and then he came out. But it was
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: a symbol of like the upper and lower nature of man,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: Jacob and Esau. And it's like similar to the.
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: The scapegoat thing where it's like the goat has the
• 58:26
  Speaker 8: red string and it's, well, it's kind of opposite to
• 58:29
  Speaker 8: the scapegoat thing. Cause the goat with the red string
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: goes into the desert to be eaten by Azazel. But
• 58:35
  Speaker 8: the goat with the white string is like the Jesus
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: goat or whatever. And like, uh, it's very interesting. Uh, the, uh,
• 58:47
  Speaker 8: that's her red string right there. When she's talking to
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: her friend, Megan, good there. Not to be confused with
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: bootleg Megan Fox.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Bootleg Megan Fox is talking to actresses Megan Good.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: You know, it's also interesting.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Tell me I don't look like Megan Fox, dude. Tell
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: me they're like, all right, can you turn your head
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: a little bit? Turn her hair like Megan does. You
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: The only difference is this one might have a vagina.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure about the.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: Real Megan Fox, but I think this one might have
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: a vagina.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: I saw it referenced earlier. Michael Bay does love Transformers,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: so he would be a big fan of Megan Fox.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Have you seen the new Megan Fox? She looks creepy, dude.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: She put her Halloween mask on early, dude. She does
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: look a little jigsaw.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, someone said T-Mu Megan Fox.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: That's so hilarious.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: T-Mu Megan Fox. But, you know, the eyeball thing, did
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: you guys already talk about it with her eyeball changing color?
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: No, we didn't address that part. Have we got the
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: story yet in the film?
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: No.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Go ahead and why don't you tell us about the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: eyeball part because that was an important plot point.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: Please, ma'am.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: Well, it's just one of those things where it's like
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: there's something inhabiting her body and it's changing her eye
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: color even because it's taking her over. She's got something
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: going on where one of her eyes is turning blue.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: And they had a medical, they had like a real
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: medical thing. I don't know if it's like, you can
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: actually do that, but.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: It's a real thing that your eyes can start changing
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: colors like that.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: The grad claim.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 8: With the Nazis were working on some kind of injection
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 8: that would, uh, that would turn the eyes blue.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: And enhance the Aryan gene, quote unquote.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: They linked the Aryan gene to like, uh, supernatural, like
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: six cents type gene.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: Exactly. Yeah. Some people say they were injecting people's eyeballs
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: with bleach. I'm not even kidding you. They were taking
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: little bits of bleach.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: Something.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: And they were trying to change the eye color blue.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: Just sick, twisted shit like this.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: And Well, if you want to talk about sick, twisted shit, ma'am,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: can I take a quick moment to introduce you to
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Megan Fox?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: The actual Megan Fox.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: What is this? What is this thing? Let's run that back.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: That's a linebacker, dude. That is a defensive end in
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: the NFL running towards that camera. Let's see if I
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: can put that in slow motion for us here.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Is that really?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: That's not AI. That's Megan Fox. Look at this creature.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: That's Mr. Gilmore's jacket. That's kind of what it looks like.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: That's Mr.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Gilmore's jacket. This is nightmare fuel.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: This is way more nightmare fuel than the unborn.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: You know, they have a theory about the trans... uh,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: like the older they get, the harder it is for
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: them to hide it.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Like Jennifer, it's a testosterone dump. I'm not, I mean,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor, but it's obviously the testosterone dump
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: that causes them to hit about age 40 and look
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: like a linebacker running across this.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: Look at that thing, dude.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: If you were an NFL quarterback, you saw that coming.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: You'd be a little frightened, dude. There's like, I don't
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: know what her 40 yard speed is, but I mean, it's,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: it's a bit intimidating. I'm, I'm a bit scared.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: The shoulders.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: Something weird down in Texas.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: And the jawline.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's the whole mess of it, right? Maybe they
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: were better off casting bootleg Megan Fox.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: In this film, but... Yeah.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: I think bootleg Megan Fox probably has a vagina, if
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: I was to just guess. But the real one? I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: don't think so.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this lady looks like an actual lady, but... This
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: whole aspect of the eye thing, while being an actual
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: physical situation in the real world, in the film, this
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: condition she has is heterochromia. Heterochromia, yeah, okay. That sounded
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: like a funny word when I said it. I'm like,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: that doesn't sound right, but that's what it's called. They
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: use this as the portal for her dead brother to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: enter into the world. The more her eye color is changing...
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: the more that her dead brother is taking a human form.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: And, you know, they say that your eyes are mirrors
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: and that there is a lens in your eye. That's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: like a mirror. This whole movie is really about the,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: and there is another horror movie that's actually called mirrors.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: And it has like a similar kind of like plot,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: but not about the coins and stuff, but the mirrors
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: it's the mirrors are, You know, I did an episode
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: on mirrors and like reflection pools and stuff like that.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: And like, why do they always put a reflection pool?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: Like the, like nine 11, there's a reflection pool. And
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: then there's, you know, anyways, reflective surfaces and mirrors are gateways. They're,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: they're literally gateways and your eyes are mirrors. And I
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: don't know. And then the whole twins thing with this movie,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: it's just like one big esoteric Mindfuck.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got layers. It's like layers upon layers of
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: things here.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: And by the way, this movie, it took a real
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: shit after it came out. Nobody liked it. Everybody said
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: it was trash. I was the only one who thought
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: it was good. Maybe it was because they were focusing
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: on the boyfriend who was horrible the entire movie. Right.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it did well in reviews, right? But it did
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: well in money. It made a lot of money.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: People made fun of it. They were like, did you
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: see that Unborn movie? It's so stupid. And I was like, oh,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: I never.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: Heard of it, dude.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't know if folks were even talking about it.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: Well, this is like when it came out, like I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: saw it at the movies and then I would talk
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: to somebody. I'd be like, oh, did you see it?
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: And they were like, yeah, it was so stupid.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: It got 11% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. That's generally
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: not good. I would say it's better than 11%, for sure.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, see, it said something about people said it was silly.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: That there was silliness or something. Cheap thrills. That border
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: on silliness.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I could definitely predict the jump scares. Like, I
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: saw them kind of coming. They were very kind of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: predictable jumps, kind of cheesy kind of jump scare moments
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: where it does border on kind of I don't know
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: if it's silliness, cheesiness, I would say, kind of cliched
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: horror stuff.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: But if you get past the jump scare stuff, the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: premise of the movie is actually pretty good, I thought.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: That's what I enjoyed about it, the deeper kind of
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: concepts of it, for sure. Certainly wasn't the actor. Again,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: that one dude's a terrible actor, but how much can
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: you do? Because Idris Elba's not a terrible actor, but
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: they gave him no character development.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: No, they're utilized. underutilized.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. He barely shows up in the last 20
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: minutes of the last 14 of the 20 minutes of
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: the film or so.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: Well, he's like, what's her name? Carla Gugino, who's the
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: mom that they refer to.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, I love her.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a good actress.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, so it's the gallery's underutilized too. James Remar is underutilized.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: He's only in it for like, what, two, three scenes?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: And one is when he says, when he says, yeah,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: we called him Jumbie, which is kind of like, okay,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: how often do you name, you know, your unborn kids
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: that are only like, what would they say? It was
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: like only a month, two months old when she, you know, she.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: Kind of took over.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: Right. Which is another weird thing that actually happens in
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: real life when one twin is smaller than the other one.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: That's the dad in Dexter. That's Harry Morgan.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Well, there was a question earlier, I think, by Gerald Hall.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Is there a Bob Cocaine Evans element to all this? Well,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: you know there is, sir. James Remar. He starred as
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Dutch Schultz in The Cotton Club. What's a Cocaine Bob
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: classic right there?
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and also it's mixed up with Okay, well, I
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: don't want to open that door, but I just got
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: to say the Cotton Club is the Cotton Club murders,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: the Dark Side of Tinkery stuff, all that shit. All
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's right.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: He was the villain in 48 Hours. Great role.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: That was a good one. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, it had good actors. It had a
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: talented cast. I didn't even dislike the female leads. I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: enjoyed the female leads, bootleg Megan Fox and actual Megan something.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: Megan Good. Don't forget. Yeah, Megan Good was good. It's
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: in her name. James Remar was also in The Dream Team.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. James Remar in The Dream Team. That's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: a great film. Yeah, he's got quite a, if you
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: look at his, he's got quite a filmography, to be
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: quite honest with you.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Definitely a good character. I mean, you recognize his face.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: You may not know his name, but he's in a
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: lot of things.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's in a lot of things. Well, again, I
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: don't want to just tangent or anything, but they recasted
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: his uh, they recasted his character in the Dexter origins.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: I think it was called they, they, uh, got, Oh,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: what's his name?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: Like who the fuck asked for this guy to replace?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: Hey, very weird to go.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Wait a second. So Christian Slater replaced James Remar.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: In the origin one, yeah. Weird.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: They're nothing alike. They don't act alike. They don't even
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: play the character the same way. It's like night and day.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: It's like, why did you do this?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe there's a Bob Coe, Cain Evans element to that, too,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: because Christian Slater decided him and Juliette Lewis, a Scientologist,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: would do the Cotton Club Murders podcast.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, Jesus.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Like a theatrical performance.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: And Weird.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, we see remorse from the Cotton Club crew.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so are we going to talk about how
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: he was a weirdo in The Heathers and was a
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: homicidal maniac? I hated him in The Heathers.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Christian Slater?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: Heathers is a creepy movie. You don't remember The Heathers?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: I remember that one, yeah. I like Christian Slater, generally speaking,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: but yeah, The Heathers was a weird one.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it made me sick.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: They thought he was like a Nicholson ripoff in his
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: early years and just certain mannerisms. I mean, that would
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: be parodied. I remember they did, what was it, the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: show The Critic. The animated show The Critic had a
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: few good men.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Love that show, dude.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: Nicholson, Christian Slater, and William Devane basically saying that all
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: of them were like the same, imitating Nicholson.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: Okay. Arkansas Dave Rudabaugh, dude.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: Will Scarlett.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: Mobsters.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: He had a good run there in the 90s.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: Oh, Mobsters is such a shit movie. Cuffs is a
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 6: good movie.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Cuffs is a good movie in not a traditional sense.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: What do you think the Rotten Tomatoes is on that?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I'd say under 20%.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: I love it. I'd go 35. I'd go 35. But
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: I think it's a good movie.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you ignore how young.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: 26%. If you could ignore the fact that.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I love the movie. I think
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: it's great.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: Milla Jovovich was definitely underage in that movie. That's what
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: I thought too, right? Definitely following her predecessor in the
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: Blue Lagoon, Brooke Shields.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: But yeah, that's just some weird shit. Very creepy. Yeah,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: very creepy.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Speaking of creepy... I don't mind a Christian Slater tangent,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: and I've never met, especially Cuffs. I really do enjoy
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: that film. But speaking of creepy, let's watch Megan Fox
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: again race across this dance floor. Oh, God, I can't.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: That's Mr.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Gilmore's jacket. That's somebody's mother, dude. She was a sex
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: symbol to many of the others. That's somebody's mother.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: You know, her involvement with MGK should have been sus
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: from the very beginning.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Is that the guy that tattooed himself black?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: He said, you guys, blackface ain't offensive. Try tattooing your
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: whole body black.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: That's offensive.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Clint's hat is offensive to some people, and I love it.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm very native, so....
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: No, that's right.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: You're from, you're from that area, right? You're a native, uh,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Northern Ohio and Cleveland.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: But you know, my family still wears all their gear,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: even though they changed it to the guardians, but some
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: people like shame you like, Oh, you still got that
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: Indians hat. You fucking asshole.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: They say it was designed by a native.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: Well, they don't care. Cause they changed it to the guardians. Yeah.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: They don't care. Cause the, the Washington Redskins was, uh,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: They're being solicited by, what's the guy, I forget which
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: chief that celebrated, but the family of the native chief
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: that they formally celebrate as the Redskins is soliciting the
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: team to rename themselves the Redskins. So back to this
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: film here, we get, she starts going on a journey
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: to find out her past, right? And that's when she's
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: talking to her dad, right? James Remar. And then she
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: finds this Sophie Cosmo lady, right? Which is her grandmother
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: she didn't know, right?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, the grandmother. You know, it's interesting that she didn't
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: know about this grandma. And they had just locked her
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: up in like an old folks home with people who
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: piss and shit on themselves. And it doesn't seem like
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: she pisses or shits on herself. So that was rude.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: They just like put her in a mental institution and
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: she didn't even deserve it. Like what the fuck happened
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: with this estranged relationship?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: No Thanksgiving, no Christmas rolled around where she was like,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: do I have a grandma?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: We locked her up in a crazy home. You don't
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: know nothing about her, but he's, Right. This is how
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: she finds out about the grandma who is a Holocaust survivor.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: How do you go through the Holocaust and your family
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: do you wrong like this and lock you up in
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: a crazy home when you don't deserve it? Like, I
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: just survived the Holocaust. You guys can't change my diapers
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: and take care of me?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: Like, really?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: You're going to lock me up in an old folks
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: home when I don't even deserve it?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: Anyways.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: She finds out about her poor old grandma that they
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: locked up in the nut house. Concentration Camp Auschwitz survivor.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: And this is where she gets the scoop on the
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: family and everything that's happened up to this point.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: So was she targeted by a different Divyuk? Did she
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: have her own Divyuk? Was this a union of Divyuks?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Is there a union dues involved?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: No, no, no. It's the same one because the grandma
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: had a twin. And it was a boy twin. And
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: they both were in the concentration camp together. And Dr.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: Mengele would take the boy twin, do experiments on him.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: One time it went too far and he ended up
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: the fuck dead. And the next day or like a
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: couple days later, the little dead boy came back to
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: life in the concentration camp. But he was different. There
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: was something wrong with him. His eyes were all fucked up.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: And he was, you know... hungry for flesh and just
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: possessed by this Dybbuk. And the grandma was like, okay, yeah,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: he's brought back from the dead. Hooray, but not hooray
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: because he's a demon now. So she killed him. And
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: ever since then, that same exact Dybbuk demon thing has
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: been trying to get back into the family through generations.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: It tried to get back into the family when her
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: mom was pregnant with her.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: But she ate that twin in the womb. So it
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: couldn't get into the physical world through that car incarnation.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: So now it's trying again through knockoff Megan Fox. So
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: it's went through three generations.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: This was a little inappropriate having the boy molest the
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: young actress bootleg Megan Fox. I felt this was not needed.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: They could have, uh, gonna refrain from this scene. You know,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: I get it. He's trying to get inside of her
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: in her belly, right? It's a later kind of nod
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: and she's pregnant with this demon later, right?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: With the twins.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: I just thought it was a little aggressive. This seems
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: a little aggressive.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: It's the same, but it's basically, it's the same demon
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: from the grandma. Like the, the grandma killed the brother to,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: to kill the demon. And, for multiple generations after that.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Jump right in your belly demon style right here.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: Bloop.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, I get it. That makes sense. So it
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: is like a, it's not specifically the spirit of her
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: twin brother. It is an ongoing family curse, so to speak.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: And that's why they had to kill.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: Her mother because her mother was going, right? Isn't that
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: how it went down, right? Right. Guglia.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: How do you pronounce her name again?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: Gugino. Gugino.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: Thank you, sir.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the demon was trying to check that she had
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: a vagina and a taint that was available.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: Taint check. I don't have anyone here to drink.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: Because, you know, she looks so much like Megan Fox,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: the demon was like, all right, let me just make
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: sure there's a whole I can crawl out of.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the demon heard the rumors. The demon's familiar with
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: the rumors. He's seen the Dance Force skit.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: He saw it.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: That's why.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: The demon was even confused like if this is Megan
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: Fox I gotta check if there's a hole I gotta
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: get out of here in some way so anyways it
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: was just a routine puss and taint check for the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: demon but just.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: To be fair that Megan Fox does look freaky but
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: that is an AI video.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: Oh thank god oh thank.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: God Can I just add something with the grandmother? No,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 6: please do. I just had kind of a thought with that, like,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 6: you know, how certain people have been portrayed, like, the
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: later years. Like, I think back to when I was
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: a kid, uh, the monster squad, the guy who helps
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: the kids, the one they say scary, scary German guy.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: And he's got the numbers and that's right. In a
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: way and how they're portrayed. But at the same time,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: it's like, well, the writer of this, David Goyer is Jewish.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: Shane black who wrote the monster squad is Jewish. So
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: it's not something where it's a prejudice thing. It's almost
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: kind of like, well, maybe this is how some of
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: these people were looked upon, but because people couldn't understand
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: part of the language, what the fuck they went through
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: in basically hell, you know, living hell that yeah, people,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: there's that, you know, people talk about war. Oh, you
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: can't understand that. Well, the Holocaust is a war unlike
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: any other. And, you know, that's, You know, so yeah,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 6: it could be that eventually after a while, yeah, some
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: of these people just couldn't relate to regular life anymore.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: But yeah, no, she's very well adjusted considering everybody else
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: that's in that institution.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: The scariest scene in the whole damn movie is Elijah.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: The old guy with the upside down head.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's creepy.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: They definitely picked that from the exorcist. They definitely extro
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: that from... Yeah.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: It seems as if Goyerfell's written a lot of interesting films.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 6: Batman, too.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: Batman Begins. Blaine.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Dark City.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: That's a good one.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the word dibbick.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 8: In Hebrew means clingy. So it's like a clingy spirit.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 8: And then they put it in the box.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: The cling box.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: What's this one?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Demonic Toys?
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: Sounds exactly the way it says. Directed to Neo. Right?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: It's a horror comedy film.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: He just likes horror stuff, I guess. Like all the Blade.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems that way. Yeah.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: I like Death Warrant.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: That was interesting. Death Warrant was a Jean-Claude Van Damme movie.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: Ghost Rider?
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: Hellraiser?
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Ghost Riders, yeah. Mm-hmm.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he got story credit on The Dark Knight. I mean,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: so yeah, Batman Begins, but yeah, Blade 2.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he did some interesting movies.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do it for sure, dude, for sure.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: But the Puppet Masters, I mean, that was a creepy one. Oh, yeah.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen it.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. That's a Highland story.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: Where people can take over other people. I mean, I
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: don't know if you've ever done The Hidden.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's different than the 80s, Public Minister.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, that sounds interesting.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: But if you ever get a chance, The Hidden was
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 6: a really good one where it's like an entity takes over,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: except it's extraterrestrial.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: That was a Kyle MacLachlan one of his first movies.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: But yeah, the Puppet.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: Masters is really, it's more like a parasite winds up
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: getting control of the people. And yeah, the government's fighting
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: a war against these entities or whatnot.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: It's not bad.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: It sounds like Invasion of the Body Snatchers or the thing.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 6: Well, Donald Sutherland is in the Puppet Masters too, just
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 6: like the remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: That's cool.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Who's Michael Norrie? Why does that name sound familiar?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: He's been around for ages.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: Is he related to George Norrie?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: I don't think so.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: Names sound the same, but different.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: One of his last roles was NCIS. He was the
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: Mossad director.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, I recognize him. I know you're talking about that.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: He was also on Yellowstone. One of his last roles
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: was on Yellowstone.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 7: Yes, ma'am.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: You have to play the clip of the guy with
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: the urethra tube and the upside down head.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure. Now we'll get to that. We'll
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: get to that here. But let's let's take another quick.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: I want to thank you all for joining us here
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: tonight to get a little GCD folks, the interwebs and Phil,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: Clint and Julia. I want to thank you all for
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: joining me here in the night for this demonic shit
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: show experience of the 2009 and a cult and or
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: esoteric review of the 2009 episode. demonic, cinematic shit show,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: The Unborn. We'll dive more into the Auschwitz element to
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: all this after these messages.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: Are you trying to kill me? What are you so
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: angry about? All I wanted to do was follow the guy.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: Did you see a crime being committed?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 7: Did you see a f * * * ing crime
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 7: being committed?
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: If we follow him, we will.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: See a f * * * ing crime being committed.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: You are a.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: F * * * ing patrol special.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 7: You don't go looking for a f * * *
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 7: ing crime. If you happen to see a f *
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 7: * * ing.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 6: Crime being committed, then you can take action.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: Otherwise, your f * * * ing.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: Job is to service those people who are stupid enough
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: to hire you to protect them. Now, if I'm getting
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: a kill on this job, it's going to be.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: By a f * * * ing.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: Bullet, not by a f * * * ing bus. Now,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: turn this.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: F * * * ing car around and let's get
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: back on.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: Your f * * * ing patrol. I have a
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: limited vocabulary, Ted.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: Fuck you.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: This is my buddy, Mr.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: Pumpkinhead.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: He is an incredible friend, especially this time of year.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: Halloween! Love you, Pumpkin.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Nothing says happy Halloween like Gary Busey.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: I think Gary Busey has heterochromia. See his eye? His
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: eye looks quite fucked up.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: They call it the witch's eye.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, cocaine's a hell of a drug, sir. Gary survived
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: the 80s in Hollywood. He's a veteran of the cocaine era.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: His whole face is fucked up.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: That's why one of my favorite lines in the TV
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: show The Leftovers is, how in the hell did Gary
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: Busey get a.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: Sentence before anybody else did? Because he's one of the
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: two percent. Yep.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: You know, you look at some folks, you know, the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: actors in Hollywood, even folks that maybe parted quite a bit,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: you're like, man, you know, they died kind of young.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: And then you look at Gary Buse, you're like, man,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: how's he doing? He's doing something right.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: It's the Keith Richards. It's the Keith Richards.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: So this lady, Phil, you were bringing her up before.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: We had recently talked about some of her connections to
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: other films. Old Jace Alexander. This is the Auschwitz grandma
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: from tonight's film. But her son is an interesting Muppet, right?
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: You were telling me about before the show?
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: Yep. He was an actor. He was in Eight Men Out.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: But then he became like a TV director. And I
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: know I think he directed episodes of The Shield and, yeah,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: a bunch of other shows. And then, yep, pornographic images
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: on his. Oh.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: This is in fairly recent years. It's 2015. Who is that?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: This is the son of the Auschwitz grandma.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: She's got an established history in Hollywood, right? I wasn't
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: too familiar with her work, but she's been in a
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: lot of shit.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: She was in Kramer vs. Kramer with Dustin Hoffman.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: She's been around.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: All the presidents, man.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: And her what is a child pedo?
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, her son downloaded a file.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: I was telling JJ, so he's married to this actress
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: named Maddie Corman, who's been around since the 80s. She
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: was in a movie with Jennifer Connelly, who was in Labyrinth.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 6: And it was just a random comment.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: And I said, yeah, no. I said, she married a pedo.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: and um yeah.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: Oh and guess where they live Westchester County New York
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: it's a real den of iniquity I.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: Completely forgot that she was also in Ford Fairlane with.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 6: Uh Andrew Dice Clay I've heard of it it's not
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: terrible it's not great and it's a Rennie Harlan like
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: with 90% of Rennie Harlan's movies it's not terrible it's
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: not great you.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: Know It's got the Dice Man, huh?
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: It's got Gilbert Gottfried. It's got Wayne Newton.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Holy shit.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: Robert Englund. Yep.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: Holy shit.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: What a weird cast. Al Bundy. I mean, yeah.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: Morris Day and the Time, dude? Are you kidding me?
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Morris Day is pretty good in that, too. Yeah,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: it's Priscilla Presley's in it. I mean, yeah, it's one
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: of those. Look at that.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: Look at that.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: We were talking about him earlier. Look at that.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: Yep. Yeah, he's definitely involved in some horrible shit. You
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: just gotta take a few seconds to look at the guy,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: and he looks like a piece of shit. Oh, my God.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: Who the fuck is this?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: That's Joel Silver.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: The pedo.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the guy that... No, no, that's... Yeah, he's
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: got a lot of... He's got a reputation as one,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: that's for sure. That's the guy that Tom Cruise is
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: parroting in the Tropic Thunder dance-a-thon.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, God. Oh, yeah.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: Probably a pedo.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: Well, when you hear something, whether it be the Weinsteins or. yeah,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 6: Joel Silver, or there's, I heard the story of one
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 6: of the guys from Caddyshack, who was a producer, said
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 6: they were all either cokeheads or predators.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: Mostly predators. Or cokeheaded predators.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, why not go for the Grand Slam, you know?
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: The Grand Slam. Yeah, but no. So the grandma, as
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: I said before, she doesn't know about the grandma because
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know how it never came up out of Thanksgiving,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: a Christmas.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: A birthday.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: Do I have a grandma and where is she? But no.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 6: They cut it for time, probably. They probably explained it,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: and then they're like, fuck it, fuck it, it slows
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 6: the movie down.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: Cut it out.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this little clip right here is what I was
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: talking about, JJ. This is her and her twin brother
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: in the Holocaust.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: Dr. Mengele. He took the little boy, did some real
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: nasty shit with him, accidentally murdered him. He was dead
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: in the morgue. And he came back a couple of
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: days later, but it wasn't him. It was like a
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: pet cemetery thing. Kind of like what we were talking
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: about earlier, where it looked like him and it was
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: his body, but something else was inside of it. And, uh,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean, so that whatever got inside of him,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: tried for several generations to get back into the family.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: And they kind of infer it's some sort of aspect
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: of occultism with the Nazis, right? And the Kabbalah. I mean,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: that's kind of what I took from it. They don't
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: say that outright.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's like all the experiments and stuff and
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: like all the supernatural element of it and how they
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: talk about how twins are mirrors and mirrors our gateways,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: mirrors our doors to the supernatural, the other side. They
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: were trying to figure out how to get this power.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: It's like the real society stuff and all the weird expeditions.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: Kind of like the Oregon energies, right? They were trying
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: to capture some of that. That's kind of what I thought.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: When I was watching this, I was thinking... you know,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: Wilhelm Reich and his old, his old theories of the
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Oregon energy, right? This kind of like base energy that causes,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: you know, that is the root of life basically.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: And, uh, it's in the cult concept, obviously. And, uh,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: you know, that's what I thought of it. If they're killing,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: if they're intentionally killing the twins, they're doing a bunch
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: of heinous shit to these children in Auschwitz or other,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: other Nazi experimentation locations here in the good old United
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: States folks. Uh, but the, um, that they're trying to
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: capture some of that, some of that energy. So I'm,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying is if like you're saying the, the
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: mirrors of the twins, if this is, this is where
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: my brain hole went, that they're trying, they're intentionally killing
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: the twin, which they seem to be doing. Then, uh,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: then they're, they're maybe trying to capture that kind of
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: Oregon energy or just the general life force of that twin.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: To then put it into the other person.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: Like, I feel like that, I don't feel like that's
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: a lost concept from what I see these, these, uh,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: these Muppets doing is, uh, some weird shit like that.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: I really do think it's some weird shit like that
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: at the root of it.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: They've always had weird stuff going on with twins. You
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: remember when we did the breakdown of the movie twins, JJ.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: For sure.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: They always put stuff like that in the damn movies
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: about the damn twins.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So she gets sent to the library, right. And
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: she's looking up the book of mirrors.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: See, again, this is probably a real book. I'm not
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: even kidding you. Somebody Google it. The book of errors.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: I'll check it out.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: It's probably a real ass book.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 6: Part of me wonders when there was the whole allusion
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 6: to the door, just the point with all the experiments,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: the doors you shouldn't open.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: How far do you want to push anything?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 6: Because even with the Nazis, the whole thing was that
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 6: they never quite succeeded in any of their you know
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 6: experiments you know like or but then again that's what
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: they tell us you know like.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say that's what they say they didn't say.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: Right yeah because you're not gonna tell folks right you're
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: not gonna they're gonna put a pr campaign out hey
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: guys we did it you know they also you're not
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: gonna fly an f-16 in the middle of the pacific
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: ocean and land on a you know a naval cruiser
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: and you know have a big party saying hey guys
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: we won the iraq war you know what.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: I mean but Well, you remember all that stuff about
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: they went to Antarctica and they didn't find anything. My ass,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: they didn't find anything. They're still in Antarctica.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 5: I agree with you, ma'am.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: And when we're on the topic of Nazis, pardon me,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: in Antarctica, and Epstein, for that matter, his buddy Prince
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Andrew claimed that he couldn't sweat. He's like, oh, all
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: them victims are lying. I lost the ability to sweat
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: in the Falkland Wars. Most folks here in America don't
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: understand what the Falkland Wars are about. it's a small
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: island nation off of, off of the shores of Argentina,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: you know, that place where the Nazis went. It's also the,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: the most strategically located geo, you know, location wise, you know,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: near Antarctica as a base of operations to go to Antarctica.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: So right now, Argentina, I believe is taking back over
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: the Falkland Islands from the British government. They just, it
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: hasn't made a lot of news, but, A bunch of
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: folks went on the islands and posted a flag for
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: Argentina last week. I haven't really read much else on it,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: but it seems to be those Falkland Islands are warming
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: back up again, and that is an Antarctic situation, if.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: You ask me.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: But there's nothing out there, JJ. It's just a big
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: fucking ice cube in the middle of fucking nowhere with
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: pyramids on it and... Oopsie, don't look at that. We're
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: just going to drill this huge-ass fucking hole that looks
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: like an abyss. I mean, they're always doing stuff out there.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: There's like a portal out there. Well, just.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: just to think of like all these wars that for like,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 6: so the, the Falkland wars I remember was like 82
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 6: or whatever for all these wars that are presented to
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: us as like, Oh my God, this is a new war. No,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: these are age old wars that are just having lulls
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: in it. And then after years later, they're, you know, rechristened,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: you know, they're re they're rebooted.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: Um, there's no originality. Yeah.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: They, they still want what's there, whether it be, you know,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: in whether it be oil in one area, lithium in another,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: God only knows what's in the Falklands. Like, I mean,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 6: and again, God only knows what's in Antarctica, you know?
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, maybe, you know, the reason why you can
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: make a movie like the thing is to be like, well,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 6: you know what?
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: Shit. We wouldn't want to go there anyway.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: But meanwhile, there could be some resources that are there
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: for all we know while they had, what's it?
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: The, um, what's it? The seed ball that's up in, uh,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 5: what is it?
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: Norway, I know it's in a northern European country where
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: they have the sea vault for the apocalypse shit. God
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 6: only knows what they have in Antarctica, you know, because
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: let's face it, it's cold as shit, but if you
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: put it in a place where you can preserve it,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: who knows? For all we know, there could be biological
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 6: weapons that they're waiting to unearth under there. That was
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: literally part of, I will point to this book constantly,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 6: it was a book called The End of October that
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 6: came out right around COVID and because I read it,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: I reviewed it, and Lawrence Wright, who's a fiction and
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 6: nonfiction author, had this book and thanked so many people
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 6: at the CDC and NIAID, with the exception of Fauci,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 6: and talked about a virus. Pandemic in and around that time.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 6: And then one of the parts at the end of
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 6: the book was it came from underneath.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: The ice like a virus.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: Is kind of yeah well that's what i was going
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: to say sir because uh if i've learned anything from
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: watching michael bay films there are robot uh aliens on
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: the dark side of the moon and robot aliens buried
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: underneath the ice in antarctica.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: There is a lot of antarctica movies though where there's
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: like some weird biological stuff like the thing And then
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: you get whatever taint-eating, crusty taint virus is under the ice.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: You gotta refill.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, get a refill out there for the taint references. So,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: what in the taint is this, is my question, because
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: this thing just literally flew out of the sky in
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: rural Minnesota, dude, and it's just a.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: Hunk of metal.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: They always say that when they find, like, I have
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: seen so many episodes of ancient aliens that start off
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: like this. It was just two farmers, and they just
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: found this thing out in the field.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: You know, they always say it's just a big hunt. Oh,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: it was a spare tire that flew off a semi.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: Okay. Right.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what it reminds me of is, you know,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: that scene out of the Truman Show where the big
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: spotlight from the dome falls down and.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: He sees it?
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what it said? You know what it
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 4: said on the spotlights?
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: No, I don't remember that part.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: It said serious.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: Get out of here. Are you serious?
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: And it hit him right in the head.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: That wasn't a bit.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: It sounded like a bit, but it wasn't a.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 7: Bit.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: The consciousness cults.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: They're everywhere, man.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: I covered that in my Jim Carrey series.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: Nice.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: Back to the Book of Mirrors, it seems like this
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: is standard witchcraft terminology for like a spiritual diary of
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: shadow work. It says self critique and personal growth as
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: opposed to your book of spells, rituals, and other things
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: for a reference manual, which is your book of shadows currently.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: So it's real.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: That is interesting. We would see more witchcraft kind of
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: stuff in here, right? The book of mirrors. Cause we
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: get the tree, we get the tree of life on,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: on the cover of the book of mirrors, right?
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 8: That's like the, The tree has many paths. There's good
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 8: paths and bad paths. Each path is a symbol. One
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 8: of the paths is a symbol of the sword, of
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 8: the blazing sword of Michael, where the other path is
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 8: the symbol of the serpent of Satan. So it's a
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 8: very complex system.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: So these are real symbols we're looking at here?
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah it's well I mean they're kind of combining stuff
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 8: yeah like the middle of that one on the left
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 8: is like a church chrysanthemum mixed with a double square.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 5: Which is like.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 8: The double squares the eight side stars the goddess the
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 8: chrysanthemum that's the double square I see the eight sides
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 8: right yeah chrysanthemum is similar to the labyrinth uh it's
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 8: like they superimpose the chrysanthemum onto the labyrinth uh in the.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: Cathedral no sir this this week that was last week's
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: movie sir this week's movie is the unborn last week
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: was the labyrinth i'm just i'm just fucking.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 8: With you yeah there's a there's a uh what the
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: hell is his name uh there's a there's a david bowie.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: Uh David Bowie makes an appearance in this one?
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: He's the Dybbuk.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, shit. Yeah, he is the Dybbuk.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: That's right. So we do get, right after we get
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: her getting all this mysticism, she starts breaking mirrors, right?
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: Because her grandmother says break mirrors, right?
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: Let's be honest about the situation. She takes a lot
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: of advice, kind of willy-nilly like from this old lady
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: in the insane asylum who tells her she's her grandma.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: But you know what I mean? Like, let's be honest
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I trust that lady.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: I want a DNA test.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, let's not stop at LRN Omar. Let's get
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: this bootleg Megan Fox a DNA test. And Gary Oldman.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: There's no way Gary Oldman's a Jew. Let's be honest
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: about the situation. I realize going into this film, you've
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: got to suspend disbelief, but I don't know if I'm
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: willing to suspend disbelief as far as I believe Gary
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: Oldman's a Jewish rabbi.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 8: It seemed like he had a bad accent when he
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 8: was saying the Hebrew or something.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: Can I just say one thing, though? Okay, you didn't
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 5: like his Hebroness? No.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: It didn't sum up I don't know.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 6: I'm not an expert Just with the The serious thing
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 6: Let's not forget what was Gary Oldman's name in Harry
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: Potter Oh Serious Oh shit I didn't know he was
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 6: in Harry Potter Bill.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: Dude Yes of course he is He's like one of
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: the best characters Of the entire series Or books I totally.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: Forgot about that Okay.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 6: Prisoner of Azkaban, and then a little bit in Goblet
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 6: of Fire, and then Order.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: Of the Phoenix.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: Like Lee Harvey Oswald in JFK.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: Yes. Wow. Drexel, the dreadlocked gangster in True Romance. I mean,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 5: that's really where it is.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: That was a good role, too. Obviously Christian Slater, right?
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: But you know, JJ in Harry Potter, and this really
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: should be its own episode. He plays serious black. That's
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: the name of his character. And he also shapeshifts into
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: a black dog. That's his animagus as they call it. But, uh,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: You know, somebody said in the comment section that her
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: grandma was setting her up for failure. Kind of. That's
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't trust that bitch, dude. She's suspect, dude.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like she used it as an opportunity
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: to let the demon get attached to her because she
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 4: was trying to get rid of it, maybe. She was like,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: I don't want it anymore. You can have it here.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: Go do this stuff and let it attach to you
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: instead of me because I've been carrying it for 40 years.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, so you think maybe she was still being haunted
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: by her divic?
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: Well, it's the same one, so I think she was
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: just trying to pass it on.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but she.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: Yep. All right.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 5: That's scandalous.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: That grandma just got more scandalous.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 4: Well, because the first time the character's name is Casey,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: the first time she goes to meet her grandma, her
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 4: grandma's like, oh, fuck you. Get out of here. And
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: then she suddenly has a change of heart and she's like,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: you know what? Come back. And she's like, I didn't
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: know who you were.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: That's a good point.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like, Actually, come back and let me tell
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: you a little something. She's like, Casey, you got to
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: do this, Casey. Go get this book and meet Gary Oldman, Casey.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: You might get a little.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 5: Bit of a guy. He's coaching basketball.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 6: And they named Oldman's character after the author from Where the.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 5: Wild Things Are. Rabbi Sendak. No way.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: Are you serious, dude?
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 5: I swear to God. That's interesting.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: That's a Where the Wild Things Are reference?
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 5: Holy shit. IMDB has never steered me wrong.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: That's the whole movie. The Labyrinth was based on Where
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: the Wild Things Are. Remember we discussed that last week?
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: Like they show the Kabbalah bracelet on Homegirl in the
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: first few minutes, they show Jennifer Connelly reading, she had
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: been reading in her bedroom, Where the Wild Things Are.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 5: David Wilcock would call that synchronistic. I think so, sir.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 5: I think so.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: That's a solid... I appreciate your brain holder, sir, for
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: recognizing that.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: I had no idea.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 4: We have to have a Blue Avian Taint reference at some.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: Point in every episode.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 5: God damn it. Blue Taint. R.I.P. David Wilcock.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: R.I.P. David Wilcock and his Blue Avian Taint.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: And all Blue Avian Taints, for that matter. And so,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: you're kind of blowing up my brain hole with this
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: old lady just set up her granddaughter. I didn't trust
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: that bitch to begin with.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 4: Because she sent her away the first time. She didn't
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 4: even say, like, I'm your grandma.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: It computes. It makes sense, yeah.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 4: And then the second time, she's like, actually, you know what?
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 4: Come back. And then it led to all of this, which...
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, she gets possessed by the damn thing,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 4: so it didn't work. It didn't help whatever her grandma said, but.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: Or this was her grandmother's intentions from the first place,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 4: Right, but you have to play the part with the
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 4: urethra tube. The guy with the urethra tube.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: We're not quite there yet, I don't think, are we?
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're right on it. Oh, I passed it?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: No, yeah.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: Wait.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 5: Target acquired. No, no, no, no.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 4: Keep going forward. Keep going forward.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think we're quite there yet.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: Go back.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 5: Right here? Back and to the left, JJ.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: Back and to the left.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: Hey, wait a second.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: It's a Gary Oldman reference. He was on the board.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: Just go back like 10 seconds to the.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: Frame 313. Frame 313.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: I was about to say right here, right?
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll go back just a few more seconds.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is Elijah the urethra tube ghost.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the grandma. The grandma's getting assaulted, right?
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she dies. She thought that if she told Casey
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: about all this stuff, it was going to get it
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: was going to ease up off her back. But instead,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: it was like, you know what? I'm going to kill
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 4: you and then I'm going to kill. Casey.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: This does have an exorcist. There was also another film.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like there was these human kind of crawly
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: guys back around 2010 or so around this era.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: See, he thought the urethra tube was bad. Whatever this is,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 4: this is way worse.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I see that guy. I'm running.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 8: If you smoke a bunch of cigarettes, you can avoid
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 8: the old people.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: And this thing, dude. You don't want to go to
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: an old people home with this thing in it. And
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: the old lady's dead now.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: Uh, no. No, no, no.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, she's good as dead. Yeah, falling down the stairs
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 5: didn't help.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: That's going to shatter her hip at that age, man.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: That's going to shatter her hip.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 4: She survived Auschwitz Holocaust camp, but she's going to get
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 4: taken out by an old man with a urethra tube.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: Jump scare inbound. Oh, I'm sorry, ma'am. Was that the
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: demonic taints are going to get her? Poisoned by a
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: demonic taint. I'm not going to lie to you. I
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: saw that one coming and it still kind of got me.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: I saw it coming and I was like, yeah, the
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: little demonic boy still kind of got me.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: Even with the Shyamalan, still got you. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: you know it's coming. So then, yeah, then we get
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: the demonic guy in the literature, right?
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 4: The upside down, everything's upside down.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: It's like they were.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: It's like somebody was drawing the scene. It's the same scene.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: Well, I think because that book is real, there could
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 4: be some real symbolism stuff to all that, but the
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 4: grandma definitely had ulterior motives, if you ask me.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: Right. This is her final letter after she had died.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: Her granddaughter is reading it, right? Well, we see the
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: aspects of the real world aspects being mashed together with
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: you know, fictional aspects, but at some point in time,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think some of that is still, you know,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: an indoctrination.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 5: Of sorts of magic.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, they're using real magical aspects to it.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: The whole exorcism part, to me, felt like something that
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: might be with the ram's horn and the reciting of the.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that seemed pretty real, right? They looked like a
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: real ram's horn. That looked authentic.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that there's actually... I've talked about
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: this a little bit on my show. In American Horror
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 4: Story and some actual different horror movies like this, the cast...
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 4: as they got really uncomfortable doing certain scenes like that
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 4: because they're using real ritualism and weird things start happening
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 4: on the set. There's a whole poltergeist curse. The first
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 4: one and the second one. where stuff started happening on
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: the set and I think like Obviously american horror stories
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: the cast members were like there were certain scenes in
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: the coven Seasoned where they had to read out of
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: these satanic books and stuff and like they felt weird
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: and weird stuff started happening And in this movie too,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: I think they're using like actual ritualism And even though
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: it's a movie you're still fucking with stuff. You're still
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 4: blowing ram's horns. You're still reciting all this in Hebrew
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 4: and all, you know, they're actually maybe invoking something.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: I think you're onto something, ma'am, because Poltergeist, I don't
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: know if they filmed it on an actual mound, but
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: the storyline was that's what caused the curse was the
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: home was built on an Indian burial mound. Then they
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: used actual skeletons in that pool scene, so they seem
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: to be doing some some real shit on scene there. Right.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: And there is a weird amount of tragedy associated with
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: the actors of this film.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: I covered it on my show for one of my
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: Halloween episodes, but it's like, we all know what really
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: happened to Heather O'Rourke and it wasn't no bowel condition.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 5: If any of you has Tubi, I haven't watched it,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 5: but I've seen the preview of it.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 6: They have a movie about Heather O'Rourke where they're like, oh, no, no, no.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 5: There wasn't anything nefarious. She just died. It was a tragedy.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: To try to dispel rumors of a curse.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 6: Meanwhile, I read that they said Poltergeist was almost like
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 6: another version based on Amityville. Ooh.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: And we all know about the Amityville field. I wouldn't
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: know if Now, see, that could open up its own
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: whole entire can of worms, because that one's also got
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: multiple layers. Actual murders, documented actual murders, and then the
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: Lutz family with all their weird shit. Oh, yeah. And so, yeah.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 4: But anyways... go ahead.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 5: Here's my thing. Just to, just to add to that.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 6: And I think I've mentioned this to JJ before.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 5: I think what they've done with the.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 6: Amity because they've made so many movies about it, including
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 6: the Amityville dollhouse that they've just completely like mocked the entire,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: Basically massacre. Cause it was like, it was a four
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 5: or five people. It was the pat.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: It was the parents and the siblings.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 6: And yeah, any sort of aspect of what happened with
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 6: the Lutz family, even.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 5: Though I'd read, I'm sorry.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 6: I'd watched my Miamiville horror about the son who said, yeah,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 6: that said the dad abused.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 5: Him, but there was, and that there was ritual stuff. Yeah.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 6: Like there was still the, the one where they had, uh,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 6: some of the local news people there. And when they
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 6: were taking pictures and kind of the stuff they'd shown
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 6: poltergeist when they have a, what's her name?
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: Um, Tangina.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 6: When they have her there, but they show, they had
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 6: a picture where there's a kid and they're like, there
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 6: was no kid who lived in the house at that
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 6: time when that picture was taken.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: And, but yeah, I think they've taken it.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 6: Well, you see a kid and you see the eyes
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 6: are almost like translucent.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: It's just very, very weird.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 6: But as I said, like what they've done with, Because
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 6: the first Amityville Horror was 1979, and that was James
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 6: Brolin and I think Margot Kidder, I think, was the original.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 6: Then they did a second one. Then they did a
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 6: third one. And after a while, you're watering down the
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 6: high weirdness there. You're just making it a stock industry
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 6: of schlocky movies.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: Until you get Ryan Reynolds' ass playing George Lutz on
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 4: the big screen.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and what does everybody remember? Oh, his abs. I'm like, okay.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: I've never heard of this, dude.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a real photograph that you just pulled up.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: Come on, how have I never heard of this?
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 4: There was no kids in the house when that photo
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: was taken. And Ed and Lorraine Warren and their CIA
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 4: ass got involved. in the Amityville case.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 5: After this?
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: Is this what caused them to get involved in it?
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 5: Was this photo?
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 4: No, the Warrens were there when this photo was taken.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: They were there.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: What the fuck, dude?
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: JJ, we could do me, you, and Phil something on
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: the Amityville because it goes deep and it's dark and
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 4: it's convoluted, to say the least. Very convoluted. And, you know,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: Dave McGowan talks about Ron DeFeo.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've always been interested in ghost photos since Ghostbusters.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: I just have never seen this before. I mean, I'm
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: familiar with the Amityville narratives and incidents. I'm familiar with
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: the three men and a baby ghost. That's not a
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: ghost boy. That's just Ted Danson's cutout.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, ma'am. What were you saying?
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 4: Dave twisted it all the fuck up with this Ryan
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 4: Reynolds shit. This latest Amityville documentary. They twisted this shit
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 4: all up with Ryan Reynolds talking about Native American burial ground.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 4: They tried to incorporate a lot of poltergeist aspects into
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: the new Amityville movie with Ryan Reynolds. The newest one.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's brand new, but it's like the
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 4: newest out of the franchise.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 5: Because every other one was like a direct.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, the one I remember from as a kid,
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 6: they had what I think was called the demon. And
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 6: I think jailbird Lori Loughlin was in it as the
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 6: daughter of the new owners of the house.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 5: And I think Meg Ryan was in it.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was cheesy. Because I think it was in 3D.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 6: It was 82 when you had Jaws 3 and Friday
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 6: the 13th Part 3 all in 3D.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow. Yeah.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 5: Total schlock fest. But, yeah.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: Isn't there some weird controversy?
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 5: Oh, go ahead, sir.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, sir.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 5: No, I was just thinking. No, it's okay.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 6: No, I was just thinking. Because not even just Amityville Horror.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 6: I was thinking of, what was it? dark, um, open water. The, the,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 6: that movie open water, which was a true story with, a.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 5: Husband and wife who got left behind on a scuba trip.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 5: And then what do they do? They go and make
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 5: a sequel that has nothing to do with it, but
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: it's like, well, imagine this. And I'm like, well, the
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 5: first one was a.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 6: Fucking tragedy based off incompetence of, you know, a boat
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 6: crew who left these people behind. And I said, yeah,
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 6: that's how you minimize tragedy by recycling it and making
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 6: these shitty movies. And it's like, Oh my God.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: It's funny. You almost said dark water because dark water
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 4: is a horror movie. That's based on what happened at
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 4: the Cecil hotel to that girl that got trapped in
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 4: the water tank. It's called dark water. And it's based
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 4: on it's, it's like, Exactly.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 5: I got to see that one.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: I got to watch that too. That's an interesting case.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so the movie's called Dark Water and it's like
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 4: a mom and her daughter that moves into an apartment
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 4: building and all this weird stuff keeps happening to them
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 4: and their apartment's always getting flooded and then they find
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 4: a dead girl up in the water tank on the
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 4: top of the apartment and it's based on the Cecil.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 4: They're always taking actual ritualism and horrible stuff that happens
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 4: in reality and making it into horror movies. That's why
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 4: I think the genre... Is they say horror movies stick
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 4: with you longer than any other genre of movie comedies
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 4: or uh, even like Romance whatever you can like them.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 4: You can laugh at them. You can say oh that
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 4: was a really good movie But the horror genre psychological
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 4: thrillers and this kind of stuff it stays with you
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 4: and in my opinion it's because it's really close to
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 4: reality in a lot of the a lot of the
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 4: cases and if you think about, oh my God, that
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 4: probably really happened. Amityville, you know, this dark water, open water,
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 4: all these movies, it's like they're really based on, like,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 4: reality is the horror movie. Reality.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: I think that's a great point, man, because with that
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: Elisa Lam case of the Cecil Hotel, did you know
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: that they had an outbreak of tuberculosis there?
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 2: I think it was tuberculosis, like right around, Right out
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: there in the Skid Row area. And they brought the
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: CDC and, you know, those Nazis. And they started using
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: a test to test all the homeless people for tuberculosis.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: I think it was tuberculosis. Anyway, it was called the
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: LAM slash ELISA test. Spelled the same fucking way as
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: ELISA LAM.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 4: I hate to say it because Phil said it earlier,
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 4: but synchronicity? I don't think so, baby. There's something more
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 4: going on with that shit.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because her name was Elisa, L-A-M. She's a Chinese
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: national from Canada, from Vancouver. And then the CDC came
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: in and they were using the Lom Elisa test to
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: test for tuberculosis out of a tuberculosis outbreak.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 5: And how do you whitewash her story? Put it on Netflix.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes. Yes, in a docu-series that could have been
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 4: one episode, but they stretched it out into 27 fucking episodes.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 6: And all anyone can remember, I just remember me and
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 6: my wife being like, that manager is a fucking weirdo.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 6: I never met someone so in love with her job.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 6: I love this hotel, because I actually got her, I
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 6: reviewed that woman's portrait of the Cecil Hotel, and I'm like, yeah,
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 6: you're still way too in love with What you did.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 6: I said it was a home for transients by the
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 6: time you were running it.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's creepy.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 4: She's gotten that spirit in her, whatever that spirit is
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 4: that's in that place. She's got it. And, you know,
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 4: people get drawn to places like that because they have
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 4: weird spirits and they, like, commune with them and shit.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 4: That's my personal opinion. I see you have the Conjuring
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 4: pulled up here now, JJ. That's another one based.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you were talking about haunted dolls and the
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: Warren family. And that's, I mean, the Conjuring's a house
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: right now with a lot of weird controversy for some reason, right?
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 4: But, you know, the Amityville case is what put the
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 4: Warrens on the map. Like, nobody knew about the Warrens
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 4: until Amityville. And they are intelligence, if I ever fucking
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 4: saw two intelligence agents working. They're gathering data, and they're
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 4: doing weird ritualism. And they also somehow got involved with...
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 4: like all these paranormal teams credit them as being like the, the,
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 4: the God parents of the paranormal movement. And they, they, they,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 4: they literally, uh, made a cultism popular. Like after the
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 4: Warrens started doing their things, we do boards were selling
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 4: off the shelf. People were getting really wrapped up in
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 4: all this stuff and it was credited to the Warrens. So, uh,
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 4: Those two assholes.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 2: They started in 1952. That's pretty early. I didn't think
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 2: it was quite that early.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 5: Okay. Yeah.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 4: Those two assholes were involved in a lot of stuff.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 4: And Lorraine was like, oh, well, I'm psychic. I ain't
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 4: never seen the bitch predict a thing.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 4: She said she was clairvoyant. She said she was all
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 4: type of this and that. And I've seen interviews with
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 4: the real Lorraine. And she looks like she should have
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 4: got the Oscar for Every year since 1952. Because that
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 4: bitch is crazy. And she's intelligent.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 5: She just died in 2019.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 4: And I don't think she's clairvoyant anything. I don't think
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 4: she's psychic. I don't think. But they've made the Warrens
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 4: out to be this.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 4: God-send couple in all these new Conjuring movies. They were
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 4: just so in love and so pure of heart and
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 4: so willing to help others. They're just a God-send. Thank
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 4: the Lord for the Warrens or else we'd all have
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 4: to get our pussies exercised.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: Wax them taints.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but no. There's something more going on with these two.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: So what's the controversy over their house, their museum here, right?
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: Isn't there like that one comedian, Santa Comedian, probably one
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: of Jeffrey Epstein's friends, Matt Reif, isn't he involved in
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 2: all this stuff?
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, he's best friends with Zach Douche Bagans.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 4: He's actually featured in several episodes of Ghosts Adventures.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: I did not know that. It's weird when we see
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: those worlds combined, the ghosts... Hunting the quote-unquote ghost hunting
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: world and the Santa Comedian world. I didn't understand all
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: the controversy. I don't think we'd have.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 5: Films like The.
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: Unborn if it weren't for the Warrens. The Warrens were
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: perpetrating a lot of these demonic possessions, demonic spirit kind
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: of tales around America. I thought it was the late 60s.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 2: It's the early 50s they started.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 3: I think they went to England too once.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 4: They did go to England once, and it was a
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 4: very famous case that they investigated over there. But you
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 4: gotta think, Amityville's gotta be one of the first major,
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 4: major horror movies that became a franchise like Friday the
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 4: 13th and Halloween and Nightmare on Elm Street. I mean,
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 4: there's a million Amityville horrors. It's gotta be one of
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 4: the first. And guess who put it on the map?
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 4: The Warrens put it on the map.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 5: So.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 4: they've had their hand in this shit for a long time,
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 4: but I've actually done a little research into like the
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 4: score that they use in horror movies, how it's like
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 4: binaural tones and frequencies that triggered the fight or flight
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 4: reflex in your brain. And it literally sends.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: They got that down to a science. Um, that, that little, uh,
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: the Michael Myers song, right. That's all of it.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 8: I noticed some similar with the, the, the, uh, Mission Impossible,
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 8: all these Tom Cruise movies, they all have a very
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 8: low bass in the background that's constant.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 3: It's like, it seems like it's very strange.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 8: For subconscious imprinting or something like that.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 4: That's what they do with these horror movies. I'm telling you.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 4: He's absolutely right. If you listen, if you go back
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 4: to M. Night Shyamalan, if you just listen to the
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 4: score of signs or some of the... You will be
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 4: in a trance-like state listening to some of this shit.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 4: Go back to Kubrick. Some of the most iconic.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, really, Phil, we're talking Eyes Wide Shut, The Shining,
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 4: Clockwork Orange. They all have this very.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 5: Full Metal Jacket. Full Metal Jacket. Yeah. Has that music.
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, not the popular, but the, yeah, the score itself. Yeah, absolutely.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 5: So, I mean... Tubular Bells. I think it's that one.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 4: Tubular Bells. They use Tubular Bells in... there was this
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 4: thing during COVID where they had like this play and, um,
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 4: um it was a bunch of little kids that got
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 4: sick with the plague and and there was like demons
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 4: coming to get them and stuff and they used tubular
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 4: bells as the background and it was all during covid
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 4: and stuff and i was thinking like this is the
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 4: We're living in a horror movie and this is, they,
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 4: they like make fun of it all the time. They
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 4: just put it in our face. Like, look, everybody's got
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 4: the plague and everybody's pussies are possessed by the devil.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 4: Here's some tubular bells for you assholes.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 5: Where's JJ?
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 4: JJ checked out on us. Right in the middle of
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 4: the episode. JJ is just going to check out.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 5: Unborn.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 8: Definitely a lot of occult movies that are pushing ideologies
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 8: to increase fanaticism of the occult.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 4: Well, I think somebody who's going to be taking over
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 4: the spotlight, and you heard it here first on Operation GCD,
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 4: this Mike Flanagan guy.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 5: Breaking news. What?
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: He said breaking news.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 5: What do you got?
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, just Mike Flanagan. He's doing all this stuff
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 4: with Stephen King. He did Dr. Sleep. He did this
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 4: new Carrie. He did a lot. He did all these
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 4: shows on Netflix that were.
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Midnight Mass, I think.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 4: Midnight Mass and Haunting of Hill House and Haunting of
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 4: Bly Manor. And he did one that was kind of
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 4: like Edgar Allan Poe type stuff. Or I can't remember.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, what is it? Something.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 4: Fall of the House of Usher.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 5: What's his name?
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 4: Mike Flanagan.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 5: He did a few of Stephen King. Oh, he did Clayface.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 6: He wrote Clayface, the one that I think is just
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 6: coming out.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 5: The Exorcist Martyrs is his next one.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 4: That's the one I was going to say. It's not
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 4: out yet, but if you watch it, I promise you
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 4: there's going to be some weird stuff in it. In
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 4: Doctor Sleep, I had to leave the theater. It was
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 4: so bad in some of the scenes. It was so
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 4: horrific and so traumatizing. And I watched it again recently
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 4: with baby daddy after I had my son and the
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 4: scene where they're murdering that little baseball kid. I, it
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 4: makes me want.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 5: To throw up. Yeah.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: It's a follow up to the shinning.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 5: Yes, it is. It's a sequel? Holy shit, dude.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 4: And again, I'm telling you, if you watch these shows
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 4: that he's done and Dr. Sleep, the score is ridiculous.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 4: It will make your stomach sick.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: He looks like a creature.
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 4: I think we should have eyes on for the future.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: For sure, yeah. And someone check his hard drive, dude. Well,
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: you know, I was... I was listening in to y'all.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: I had a, I had a Dybbuk at my front door.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: It turned out it was just a Domino's pizza guy
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: looking for them.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 4: Oh God. Send him over here. I'm starving.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 5: Oh shoot.
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: No, he's from Salem, Massachusetts. I've never heard of this guy.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 4: All right. Keep your eyes peeled JJ. I'm telling you
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 4: there's something coming. He's working way too closely with Stephen
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 4: King on stuff.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: Was this Duncan Trussell's, the Midnight Club?
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 5: Was that Duncan?
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: No, that was something else. What's the Midnight Club?
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 4: It's about a bunch of teenagers, and it's kind of
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 4: like Goosebumps, but reimagined, in my opinion. It wasn't very good.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 4: Midnight Mass is the best out of all of them,
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 4: if you're going to check one out. But I can't
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 4: believe you haven't heard of Dr.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 5: Sleep.
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 4: It's all about child sacrifice and ritualism and children.
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 5: You know, talking about stealing someone's louche.
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's a, yeah, their life force and sucking
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 4: it out of them.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 6: It's, it's, I mean, I read the book, I enjoyed
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 6: the book, but I said, I think the movie was,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, just a step, a couple of steps more,
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 6: you know, towards that.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 5: And yeah, it was, I mean, it was creepy shit.
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 4: It was horrific in some of the scenes.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: No, I appreciate that. I'll definitely check it out. I don't,
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: you know, I often rely upon the.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 4: You better just get a change of panty drawers ready.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: Wax your taint and buckle up there, sailor.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 4: Just have a change of panty drawers at the ready
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 4: because it's nasty. This is some nasty shit. This is
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 4: some nasty shit. Oh, my God. My stomach's hurting right now.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 4: It's like a dominoes. I can't take a dominoes.
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 2: Unless someone tells me about a film in the horror
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: genre I don't typically watch. You know what I mean?
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 2: It's just not my thing. This goes beyond horror.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 4: It goes beyond horror. It goes into what they probably
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 4: actually do with these children. This is some nasty, some
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 4: nasty stuff. Just nasty. So prepare your mind, your body,
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 4: and your spirit before you go into the doctor's sleep. Okay.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 5: It's bad.
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 2: Will do, man. Will do. I do appreciate the recommendation
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: for tonight's film.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, sir.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: What were you saying, Clint?
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I was going to bounce
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 3: out early so I could start a show with Todd.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 2: You got any closing words for us here on tonight's
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: film review, sir? I appreciate your time. Thank both of
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: y'all for joining. And Phil will be right back with.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 5: Us, I believe.
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's definitely cool hanging out. Add me on Twitter
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 8: and stuff. Cosmic Peach, you're welcome to come on if
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 8: you ever want to.
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 5: I will.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: Will you stream in the night?
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 3: I'll send a link in the thing.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 5: I'll put a.
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: Link in the show chat for Clint's show. Everyone should
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: check that out. I always enjoy joining Clint over there
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: for various conversations on conspiracy culture, parapolitics, and sometimes waxed taints,
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: which if Julia joins us, I presume that'll be the
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 2: topic of conversation.
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 3: I'll see you a little bit.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 5: Later, dude.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: Well, Julia, thank you, ma'am, and thank you, Phil, for
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: joining me here tonight to go to GCD. Did y'all
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 2: have any closing statements on tonight's Nicole Tandor-Eso-Turk film review?
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 5: I'll go first.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to force anyone.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 4: No, I have some closing thoughts. I have some closing
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 4: thoughts on it. Thanks for putting up with my recommendation.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 4: I know you don't do scary movies, but this one
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 4: was cool, I thought. But no, I enjoyed it, ma'am.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I enjoyed it for sure.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 4: So it just I mean, it's it's like we've been
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 4: saying this whole time. It just has a lot of
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 4: weird symbolism with the twins and the mirrors and the
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 4: Nazi stuff and the Mengele and the concentration camps. And
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 4: what I believe is like probably some real ritualism, like
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 4: especially during the exorcism part where they're doing horns and
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 4: reading stuff. And anyways, I say all that to say.
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 4: If anyone is out there like me and loves horror
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 4: movies and watches them all the time, it's a little
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 4: bit dangerous sometimes when you think about like what you're
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 4: letting into your house, because they read this stuff, you're
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 4: playing it out loud in your home. And there's real curses.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 4: There's real weird stuff that happens to the people who
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 4: make these movies. They're based. Most of them are based
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 4: on like real murders and real horrible shit that's happened.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 4: And that's why I feel like the horror genre is
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 4: in and of itself, it's like dark and weird and
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 4: twisted and maybe even borderline dangerous sometimes with this, you know,
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 4: you're letting it into your home, your mind, your body,
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 4: your spirit, and it's opening you up to like whatever
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 4: darkness is inside the movie, you know? So anyways, I
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 4: have some horror stuff. Amityville episode just dropped on my
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 4: channel if you want to check it out. Thanks for
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 4: having me, JJ, and thanks for watching the movie.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: As always, ma'am, thank you. I appreciate the commentary. You're
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: always blowing up my brain hole with some new ideas here.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: I hope everyone folks on the internet found this to
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: be a real barn burner because I certainly think it was.
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: I don't always jump into these horror film genres, but
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 2: I do appreciate some of the the occultism that's embedded
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: in these things. And I do think you're onto something.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: I've long considered a lot of these matters of being
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: some of the reasons why I don't always introduce my
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 2: brain hole to some of these concepts. I do think
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 2: that there's some initial initiatory, initiatory. If you go visit
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 2: my science store, initiatory kind of practice being conducted in
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 2: the occult. I mean, I was talking, I was talking
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 2: about this the other day, like look at a film
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 2: like bed knobs and with someone the other day, look
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: at a film like bed knobs and broomsticks. I look
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  Speaker 2: at a film like that and I'm like, man, that
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  Speaker 2: was really my first. It's a Disney film starring Charles
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 2: Manson's friend, Angela Lansbury. And it's a film that really
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  Speaker 2: initiated me into a lot of witchcraft ideas that I
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  Speaker 2: had no knowledge of prior to that and necromancy. Now,
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  Speaker 2: mind you, I would later perform my own necromancy with
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 2: the Mormons. But, you know, maybe that started with watching
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  Speaker 2: Bedknobs and Broomsticks for all I know.
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  Speaker 4: Hocus Pocus is a Disney movie, too. And it's Scott.
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  Speaker 5: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another one.
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  Speaker 5: They're getting ready to do a third of that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, fuck. Nobody asked for that.
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  Speaker 5: Phil, thanks again, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have any closing statements for us tonight?
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  Speaker 6: Well, in terms of Angela Lansbury... I'll always say Manchurian candidate,
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 6: her playing the mom in that. But just going off
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 6: what Julia said in terms of. you know, these movies
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 6: kind of, or even books, too, introducing this sort of thing.
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  Speaker 6: Who's to, like, with some of these writers, who's to
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  Speaker 6: say some of it isn't them trying to exercise their
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 6: own demons to have someone else be like, okay, now
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  Speaker 6: it's your problem, you know, sort of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Like the grandma from the film.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, who's to, like, I think of someone
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  Speaker 6: like Stephen King. Stephen King's been writing horror novels, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: horror stories since he was, like, eight or nine years
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  Speaker 6: old and and people like oh how do you just
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 6: come up with this shit and it's like well for
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 6: all we know he's a very deeply disturbed individual that's
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 6: how you conjure up a gangbang and it you know
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 6: yeah but you know yeah who's to say some of
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  Speaker 6: it's not like okay you know just like i'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: you know just kind of throw this off of me
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  Speaker 6: cast this out of me and it's like you can
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  Speaker 6: deal with that shit now, you know, and then hopefully
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  Speaker 6: like pay it forward, but in the most fucked up
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  Speaker 6: way possible. And, you know, and I feel like the
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 6: horror genre is just getting more and more depraved out there.
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  Speaker 5: Oh God.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, I've never even watched some of the movies.
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  Speaker 6: Like I know people love, like, what is it? The
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 6: one with the clown terrifier and all that stuff. And
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 6: I'm like, Nope, not, not dealing with that. It's a
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 6: zombie movie to me. Literally.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, give me something.
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  Speaker 6: More psychological than anything else. But I said, yeah, if
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 6: you're going to give me a movie that just goes
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 6: for blood and the slasher element, I said, yeah, I'm
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 6: kind of checked out on those, but, um, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Give me something, give me something that's more cerebral and,
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 6: you know, I'm kind of in for it. Uh, but yeah,
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  Speaker 6: there's movies that are disturbing. This movie was good. I'm
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 6: kind of, I'm glad that I got to see it.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 6: And I was like, I said to JJ, I'm like,
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 6: under 90 minutes. I said, can't go wrong. Even though
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 6: my DVD, there was an unrated version. I don't know
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 6: how much more was included in that, but, um, just.
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  Speaker 4: The gynecological scene with the demon. That's all.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm good there. I'm good there.
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 2: I'm good on that too. Now I think you're right.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: I like your analysis, sir. Um, I enjoyed films that
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: toe that line again, that, You know, that psychological kind
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: of thrill of mind of what is reality and what's
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: not reality, what's hallucination and dream and nightmare, whatever other
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 2: kind of alternate reality aspect that the characters are experiencing.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: Magical spells, demon shit, who knows, right? It comes in
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 2: various varieties, but.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 5: We get that a lot throughout this film.
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  Speaker 2: I do like that.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 4: There is a horror movie.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 5: I like that, you know?
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 4: There is a horror movie, Phil, it's called It Follows.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 4: You'd probably like it. It's kind of a mixture between cerebral,
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 4: like you can't really tell what time period you're in
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 4: or if it's a dream or if it's reality, but
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 4: it also has like a little bit of like the
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 4: ghosty demon stuff in it. But basically the demon, the thing,
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 4: whatever it is, gets attached to someone and And the
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 4: only way that they can pass it on is if
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 4: they fuck somebody. And so it's just this chain of
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 4: people fucking each other, trying to pass this.
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 2: It's just like, Oh, that's what Jeffrey Epstein was doing.
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  Speaker 5: I get it now.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 4: They were, it's the supernatural STD. You never heard of.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 5: Right. Well, that's a.
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  Speaker 2: Good note to end on here, ma'am. The supernatural STDs.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 2: stay away from supernatural SCDs folks, the interwebs, you know,
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: watch six, stay vigilant, uh, and, uh, stay dangerous out there, America.
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 2: Thanks again for joining us here tonight to kill a GCD.
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 2: And thank you, Julia, Phil, and, uh, Clinton folks go
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 2: check out Julia cosmic peach. And, um, Phil will be
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: back here again soon for more excellent film reviews and Phil's, uh,
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: book reviews. I'll put a link in the show notes
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 2: for his book reviews and definitely go check out Clint
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 2: show tonight. I think he's probably already streaming over there. So, uh,
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: Thanks again.
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 3: Well, that's it.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: That's the show here, folks. So the next time you're
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 2: out on the town visiting your local watering holes or
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: perhaps just meandering around and you hear the unmistakable sounds
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 2: of metal clanking and you spot signs of a disturbance,
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 2: check your six. Look in that garbage can because you
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 2: never can tell.
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 5: The GCDs may be loose in your town. Music Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.