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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hey Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life?
- 0:05Speaker 1: Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too.
- 0:08Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
- 0:12Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
- 0:30Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
- 0:33Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
- 0:35Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
- 0:36Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig
- 0:40Speaker 1: into the dirt. Our mission, as always, guys, to uncover
- 0:43Speaker 1: the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story.
- 0:46Speaker 1: And boy, howdy, do we have a subject for that
- 0:48Speaker 1: this week for you with our new Queen episode. On
- 0:51Speaker 1: this bonus episode, we're going to get into the truth
- 0:54Speaker 1: behind the Queen story and what was eventually put up
- 0:57Speaker 1: on screen and and Bohemian Rhapsody. We're also going to
- 1:00Speaker 1: dig into some of the treatment that the critics gave
- 1:03Speaker 1: to Queen, the band, not the biopic, the Bohemian Rhapsody
- 1:06Speaker 1: biopic anyways. Plus, we're going to get into your emails, comments, DMs,
- 1:09Speaker 1: and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is
- 1:12Speaker 1: the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, just like you,
- 1:16Speaker 1: the independent thinkers who know that the best history is
- 1:18Speaker 1: the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell
- 1:21Speaker 1: the stories you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos,
- 1:24Speaker 1: let's get into it. By 1973, when Queen's first self-titled
- 1:39Speaker 1: album was released, a critic from the New Musical Express
- 1:44Speaker 1: tore it apart like a wolverine breaking its fast. He
- 1:47Speaker 1: compared the group's debut with a quote-unquote bucket of urine.
- 1:52Speaker 1: A few years later, in 1975, when Queen released A
- 1:57Speaker 1: Night at the Opera, the LP containing what would become
- 2:00Speaker 1: Queen's iconic masterpiece, Bohemian Rhapsody, Melody Maker described that track as,
- 2:05Speaker 1: Bohemian Rhapsody, as a pastiche of superficial ideas. The Sunday
- 2:11Speaker 1: Times questioned the, quote, legitimacy of its audience's hearing. Talking
- 2:17Speaker 1: about Queen's audience there. Quantifying the success of Bohemian Rhapsody
- 2:23Speaker 1: is unnecessary. But just a massively successful song. You can
- 2:27Speaker 1: just look around and see and hear the impact of
- 2:31Speaker 1: the song. That's how successful it is. Just open your
- 2:33Speaker 1: eyes and your ears. It's been in our culture for
- 2:36Speaker 1: the past 50 years. It has been impacting our culture
- 2:39Speaker 1: for the past 50 years in movies, on TV, streaming
- 2:43Speaker 1: billions of times over. It's been parodied. It's been mimicked.
- 2:46Speaker 1: It's been covered. And of course, it is playing right
- 2:50Speaker 1: now on a classic rock radio station near you. Now, critics...
- 2:55Speaker 1: especially those who came up in the 1970s, will tell
- 2:58Speaker 1: you that this doesn't change a thing. To a critic,
- 3:03Speaker 1: creative merit cannot be measured by mass appeal. In fact,
- 3:09Speaker 1: serious cultural critics will argue that achieving mainstream acceptance only
- 3:13Speaker 1: proves that the art in question isn't serious, because commercial
- 3:18Speaker 1: success is only rewarded to safe works of art that
- 3:22Speaker 1: conform to to what the mainstream audience wants, and that
- 3:26Speaker 1: true art, art worthy of critical acclaim, can only be
- 3:31Speaker 1: found in risk-taking works that push the medium, in this case,
- 3:36Speaker 1: rock and roll, forward. So this, as my mother would say,
- 3:40Speaker 1: is a crock of shit. The Beatles, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely
- 3:44Speaker 1: Hearts Club Band, Stephen King's Salem's Lot, Steven Spielberg's Jaws,
- 3:49Speaker 1: three examples, one an album, one a book, and another
- 3:52Speaker 1: a movie that all defy the definition of serious critical
- 3:57Speaker 1: merit from serious cultural critics. Sgt. Pepper's abandoned traditional pop
- 4:02Speaker 1: single-song format and production for avant-garde orchestral arrangements and instrumentation.
- 4:08Speaker 1: And the result was not only a creative masterpiece, but
- 4:11Speaker 1: an instant commercial success as well. In Salem's Lot, Stephen
- 4:15Speaker 1: King teamed his plot-driven horror with blue-collar character studies. It
- 4:20Speaker 1: was a combination nobody asked for, nobody wanted, and nobody
- 4:24Speaker 1: saw coming. And initially, the critics relegated his bestseller to downseller,
- 4:28Speaker 1: but once it went paperback a few months after its release,
- 4:32Speaker 1: they came around. Spielberg's Jaws was an instant cultural phenomenon,
- 4:37Speaker 1: a monster movie that didn't fully show the monster until
- 4:41Speaker 1: the third act. It was a genius move and a
- 4:45Speaker 1: genius movie that no serious critic could deny. None of
- 4:49Speaker 1: these works conformed to what mainstream audiences wanted in order
- 4:55Speaker 1: to obtain mainstream success. Like Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody, a song
- 5:00Speaker 1: that still, to this day, defies explanation, these works were
- 5:05Speaker 1: previously unimaginable by anyone but their creators. So why was
- 5:10Speaker 1: Queen's work panned and the others weren't? That I can't answer.
- 5:15Speaker 1: But I think it has something to do with the
- 5:17Speaker 1: fact that most critics aren't writing about the thing they're
- 5:21Speaker 1: writing about. They're writing about themselves. It's like when someone
- 5:26Speaker 1: you know judges you in person, or someone you don't
- 5:29Speaker 1: know online comes at you in a comment. The critique
- 5:32Speaker 1: is almost never about you. It's about them. And that's
- 5:37Speaker 1: what music and cultural criticism is all about. It's about
- 5:41Speaker 1: the self-important critic. The writer from Rolling Stone magazine who
- 5:47Speaker 1: called Led Zeppelin weak. the writer from Cream magazine who
- 5:51Speaker 1: said the Stones' Exile was the worst studio album they'd made,
- 5:55Speaker 1: or the writer from NME who compared Queen's debut to
- 5:57Speaker 1: a bucket of urine. You'll notice I didn't mention these
- 6:01Speaker 1: critics by name because, well, why give them the satisfaction?
- 6:04Speaker 1: Most have been forgotten, yet the music lives on. Queen,
- 6:09Speaker 1: the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Steven Spielberg, Stephen King, the Beatles,
- 6:13Speaker 1: pick your example. These artists risked failure and by not
- 6:17Speaker 1: only creating something previously unforeseen, but they dragged the culture
- 6:21Speaker 1: along with them when they did it. It's one thing
- 6:24Speaker 1: for an artist to hide behind the novelty of their
- 6:26Speaker 1: creation and claim that the world just isn't ready for them.
- 6:29Speaker 1: And it's quite another thing for an artist to take
- 6:32Speaker 1: something equally novel and execute it so brilliantly that it
- 6:36Speaker 1: cannot be ignored. This is the difference between great artists
- 6:41Speaker 1: and good artists. And the critics would know that if
- 6:44Speaker 1: they weren't so busy exercising their own creative failures in
- 6:47Speaker 1: the prose of their reviews. Now, I'm going to put
- 6:50Speaker 1: my critic's hat on and completely contradict myself. Not really,
- 6:54Speaker 1: but some might think so. The Queen biopic, Bohemian Rhapsody,
- 6:58Speaker 1: is bad. That's my one-word review. I'm going to let
- 7:02Speaker 1: this week's Disgraceland episode do the talking for me on
- 7:05Speaker 1: this one. Listen to that episode if you haven't already,
- 7:07Speaker 1: and you will understand my opinion, my review, my one-word
- 7:10Speaker 1: review a little more fully. I gave it a one-word
- 7:13Speaker 1: review because I'm not making it about me, okay? That's
- 7:15Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to make. We talk about music
- 7:18Speaker 1: biopics a lot here, and you know the ones that
- 7:20Speaker 1: I like and dislike by now, but there's a ton
- 7:22Speaker 1: of great non-music biopics that are worth discussing as well
- 7:25Speaker 1: and recommending to you guys. And Zeth and I are
- 7:27Speaker 1: going to be digging into them in the exclusive section
- 7:29Speaker 1: of this afterparty at the end of the bonus episode
- 7:31Speaker 1: for our All Access members. Go to disgracehandpod.com to sign
- 7:34Speaker 1: up to become an All Access member if you're not
- 7:36Speaker 1: one already. And you can unlock exclusive content like this
- 7:40Speaker 1: plus ad-free listening. On this week's Queen episode, our full episode,
- 7:45Speaker 1: we get into the following, okay? No studio on earth
- 7:48Speaker 1: would have greenlit the real story of Bohemian Rhapsody. Some
- 7:52Speaker 1: people might think they know the Queen story because they
- 7:54Speaker 1: saw the movie, but the movie didn't want to show
- 7:57Speaker 1: you this other side of Queen, all right? Halloween 1978,
- 8:02Speaker 1: Queen's having a party to celebrate their new album, Jazz.
- 8:06Speaker 1: You show up, a greeter meets you at the door,
- 8:08Speaker 1: and the first thing you're offered is oral sex. Your choice,
- 8:12Speaker 1: man or woman, Queen has got you covered. But this
- 8:14Speaker 1: isn't all Queen is offering their guests on this night
- 8:17Speaker 1: at their party. This is the Fairmont Hotel, by the way,
- 8:19Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Inside, naked women are spread across banquet tables,
- 8:23Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes somehow from their vaginas. Don't ask me how,
- 8:26Speaker 1: I don't know. But there's more. There's little people walking
- 8:28Speaker 1: around the room with silver trays of cocaine strapped to
- 8:31Speaker 1: their heads. There are strippers dressed as nuns and dancing
- 8:35Speaker 1: in bamboo cages. Fire eaters are swallowing flames while performers
- 8:39Speaker 1: bite the heads off live chickens. I don't know if
- 8:41Speaker 1: Ozzy was there or if this is where Ozzy got
- 8:43Speaker 1: it from, but this was going on. There's also minstrels
- 8:46Speaker 1: in blackface because strippers dressed as nuns just wasn't offensive enough.
- 8:49Speaker 1: There's lobster, oysters, caviar, Cristal by the bottle. The final
- 8:53Speaker 1: bill is 200,000 pounds, over a million dollars today. And
- 8:56Speaker 1: to Freddie Mercury and to Queen, this was pretty much
- 9:00Speaker 1: just a fucking Tuesday, all right? This is the real
- 9:03Speaker 1: story of Queen. Bohemian Rhapsody, the biopic. It may have
- 9:08Speaker 1: given you the songs, but it did not give you
- 9:11Speaker 1: the story. Now that's just a taste of the Queen episode.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Our most recent new full episode that we released this week.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Go check that out. Now coming up next in the feed,
- 9:21Speaker 1: right after this bonus episode, we're rewinding to our Blink-182
- 9:26Speaker 1: Tom DeLonge story. Now in 2015, Tom DeLonge quit Blink-182,
- 9:31Speaker 1: one of the planet's biggest rock bands, to go and
- 9:34Speaker 1: chase UFOs. But before he quit, back in 2014, Tom
- 9:39Speaker 1: took a trip out to the desert, out to Area
- 9:41Speaker 1: 51 in the middle of the night. Tom woke up
- 9:44Speaker 1: in his tent because he heard voices outside, too many
- 9:46Speaker 1: voices to count. They woke him up and these voices,
- 9:49Speaker 1: they were not human. These sounds were unearthly, but still
- 9:54Speaker 1: they were strangely familiar, murmuring, whispering, freaking Tom out. Now,
- 9:59Speaker 1: whatever Tom's heard out in the desert on that night
- 10:02Speaker 1: in 2014, it was enough to compel him to quit
- 10:06Speaker 1: Blink-182 and dedicate his life to learning more and compelling
- 10:10Speaker 1: those in power to share what they had already learned
- 10:13Speaker 1: with the American public about those voices, about extra and
- 10:18Speaker 1: ultra-terrestrials about UFOs and UAPs. Tom DeLonge was mocked mercilessly
- 10:25Speaker 1: by an incurious press with headlines like, Blink-182's Tom DeLonge
- 10:29Speaker 1: describes alien counter, says authorities tapped his phone. Tom DeLonge
- 10:33Speaker 1: just proved he's gone completely insane during alien rant. I'm
- 10:37Speaker 1: not going to say Tom DeLonge is batshit crazy, but
- 10:40Speaker 1: Tom DeLonge ignored these stupid headlines and he used a
- 10:44Speaker 1: mix of his Celebrity and skills at politicking to set
- 10:48Speaker 1: a meeting with a bunch of government aerospace contractors. The
- 10:51Speaker 1: stakes of this meeting could not have been higher. There
- 10:53Speaker 1: were four layers of security, armed guards, white noise pumping
- 10:56Speaker 1: in through the speakers to scramble any listening devices inside
- 10:59Speaker 1: the dark windowless room where they were meeting. One of
- 11:02Speaker 1: the contractors told Tom he was a fucking lunatic, a
- 11:04Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist that was wasting his time, and he got
- 11:07Speaker 1: up and left the room. Other contractors followed, all but one,
- 11:11Speaker 1: all but the lead contractor who listened to more of
- 11:13Speaker 1: Tom's pitch. When Tom finished, the government contractor, to Tom's amazement,
- 11:19Speaker 1: agreed that slow disclosure of the UFO phenomenon via culture,
- 11:24Speaker 1: via a rock star like him, rather than exclusively through
- 11:29Speaker 1: the incurious traditional media, could perhaps responsibly bring the public
- 11:33Speaker 1: around to the mind-bending notion that, yes, aliens are real.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Tom was right. Now, if you want to know exactly
- 11:43Speaker 1: how Tom DeLonge proved that he was right... and the
- 11:45Speaker 1: road that Blink-182 took to put Tom DeLonge in position
- 11:48Speaker 1: to make the moves he eventually made around the topic
- 11:51Speaker 1: of UFO and UAP disclosure, be sure to check out
- 11:54Speaker 1: this episode. Finally, next week, our next new episode is
- 11:59Speaker 1: on the one and the only, the extremely talented and
- 12:03Speaker 1: extremely unlikable, by my estimation anyway, David Crosby. Now, did
- 12:09Speaker 1: you know David Crosby carried a loaded gun everywhere he went?
- 12:11Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like he's the type of guy who would
- 12:13Speaker 1: do that, but he did. And when cops asked why,
- 12:16Speaker 1: he gave them two words, John Lennon. It was five
- 12:20Speaker 1: years after Lennon was gunned down in the street, and
- 12:22Speaker 1: David Crosby wasn't wrong to be scared. But he also
- 12:26Speaker 1: wasn't just scared, he was paranoid. And that kind of
- 12:29Speaker 1: paranoia was just what David Crosby was showing on the surface.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Underneath was one of the gnarliest freebase addictions you'll ever
- 12:37Speaker 1: hear about. A home invasion, a gunshot to the face,
- 12:40Speaker 1: a getaway plane that turned the softest voice in rock
- 12:43Speaker 1: and roll into an actual FBI fugitive who was arrested
- 12:47Speaker 1: just down the road from where I'm sitting right now.
- 12:50Speaker 1: All right, that's the David Crosby episode. When you're listening
- 12:53Speaker 1: to this episode, be thinking about Crosby, be thinking about
- 12:57Speaker 1: his bands, be thinking about the Byrds. Laurel Canyon in
- 13:01Speaker 1: the 60s and 70s. How three guys from three broken
- 13:05Speaker 1: up bands turned themselves into one of the greatest supergroups
- 13:09Speaker 1: of all time, Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young. And let
- 13:12Speaker 1: us know what's your favorite supergroup. Okay, it doesn't have
- 13:15Speaker 1: to be a group that was actually massive like, you know,
- 13:19Speaker 1: Van Hagar or whatever. It can be, we can go
- 13:23Speaker 1: indie here. When I say supergroup, I'm just talking more
- 13:26Speaker 1: about super musicians coming together, joining forces. more so than
- 13:31Speaker 1: I am sort of super popularity like Crosby, Stills, Nash,
- 13:34Speaker 1: and Young. The coming together of it all is what
- 13:36Speaker 1: I'm interested. Give me a call. Let me know your
- 13:38Speaker 1: favorite super groups. You might hear yourself in next week's
- 13:41Speaker 1: after party, 617-906-6638, voicemail and text at disgracelandpod on the socials,
- 13:47Speaker 1: disgracelandpod at gmail.com for email. I'll be back right after
- 13:52Speaker 1: this with your answers to last week's question of the week,
- 13:54Speaker 1: your voicemails, your texts, DMs, emails, and more. All right,
- 14:11Speaker 1: I'm back in the phone booth. The one across the hall.
- 14:15Speaker 1: My coffee's getting cold. I don't know how that's possible.
- 14:17Speaker 1: I just made this thing. Not hot enough. The older
- 14:26Speaker 1: I get, the hotter I like my coffee. What's that
- 14:27Speaker 1: all about? I feel like that's very David Lynchian. Anyhow,
- 14:33Speaker 1: we got a show to do. Why am I blabbing
- 14:34Speaker 1: about coffee? Okay, 617-906-6638. Last week's question of the week
- 14:41Speaker 1: relative to our episode on Queen. We wanted to know
- 14:46Speaker 1: who you think the real Freddie Mercury was and what
- 14:50Speaker 1: the best biopic and what the best music biopic is.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Let's go to Junior in the 714. Hey, Jake, this.
- 14:59Speaker 2: Is Junior, 714. Appreciate what you're doing. Like always, one
- 15:04Speaker 2: of my favorite biopics, Control by Ian Curtis from Joy Division.
- 15:09Speaker 2: We don't know much about Ian Curtis's life, only what
- 15:12Speaker 2: we hear from the guys from New Order and his
- 15:16Speaker 2: wife and books and biographies.
- 15:19Speaker 3: But the movie was done in black and white because
- 15:23Speaker 3: the director says you don't get a lot of color
- 15:25Speaker 3: photos of Ian Curtis. Secondly, at the suicide scene, unfortunately,
- 15:31Speaker 3: the idiot was playing on his turntable in the movie,
- 15:35Speaker 3: which is documented here.
- 15:38Speaker 2: And he loved that album. But other than that, the
- 15:41Speaker 2: movie was beautiful. It was believable. And it was fast. Jake,
- 15:47Speaker 2: take it easy. Good talking to you.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Peace.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Keep doing what you're doing.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Rock and roll up. 714 Junior. Thanks, man. It's a
- 15:57Speaker 1: dark one. And I haven't seen it, even though we've
- 16:01Speaker 1: produced an episode on Joy Division and New Order. I
- 16:05Speaker 1: have not seen this. It's dark. There's a real darkness there.
- 16:11Speaker 1: I haven't quite given myself over to Ian Curtis because,
- 16:15Speaker 1: I don't know, man, not in the headspace. And I
- 16:19Speaker 1: kind of missed it when it was happening. I was
- 16:20Speaker 1: a little too young, but I understand the greatness. And
- 16:24Speaker 1: I'm sure I've heard a lot of people, a lot
- 16:25Speaker 1: of people just outside of Disgraceland, just friends of mine,
- 16:28Speaker 1: people I know in the world love this film. And
- 16:32Speaker 1: I don't doubt that what you're saying is spot on, Junior.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Thanks for getting in touch. This one from the 731.
- 16:38Speaker 2: To me, the best biopic of an artist would have
- 16:44Speaker 2: to be The Doors.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Jim Morrison. Thanks.
- 16:50Speaker 2: 731.
- 16:50Speaker 1: I love Oliver Stone's The Doors. People rag on it.
- 16:55Speaker 1: They drag it. And I kind of get it. It
- 16:59Speaker 1: is sensationalized filmmaking. but it's kind of the best version
- 17:03Speaker 1: of that. And it kind of broke the mold in
- 17:05Speaker 1: a lot of ways. It really, really took the biopic,
- 17:07Speaker 1: the music biopic, Hollywood, uh, took it to Hollywood in
- 17:10Speaker 1: a way that hadn't been done prior to that. I
- 17:13Speaker 1: don't think there's great biopics beforehand, but sort of don't
- 17:17Speaker 1: have the spectacle that the doors has. I heard a
- 17:21Speaker 1: great thing about Val Kilmer when he died, you know,
- 17:24Speaker 1: just happened with Dolly Parton where folks pass away and
- 17:28Speaker 1: people jump online and start sharing stories. And it was somebody, um,
- 17:31Speaker 1: I think it was Meg Ryan. I could be wrong.
- 17:33Speaker 1: It was somebody who was ultimately cast in The Doors,
- 17:35Speaker 1: I believe. And they're at casting and they're all kind
- 17:38Speaker 1: of like, you know, it's like typically, you know, what
- 17:40Speaker 1: you'd think of. They're all, you know, waiting in a hallway,
- 17:42Speaker 1: sitting next to each other to go in and audition.
- 17:45Speaker 1: And they're all just kind of in their street clothes,
- 17:47Speaker 1: all the actors, not Val Kilmer. He rolled up in
- 17:52Speaker 1: a 1960s Mustang, just like Jim Morrison drove, like in
- 17:55Speaker 1: full Morrison style. like leather pants, shirtless, the whole thing.
- 17:59Speaker 1: I think he had a bottle with him and he
- 18:01Speaker 1: fucking stumbles. He's just fully in character for the audition.
- 18:05Speaker 1: And of course he nailed it. And he was great.
- 18:08Speaker 1: He was amazing. Amazing.
- 18:10Speaker 2: 617-906-6638.
- 18:10Speaker 1: You guys want to be part of the conversation, hit
- 18:13Speaker 1: us up. Jason in the 416 comes at us with this.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Running through my woes in the 416. Great episode on
- 18:21Speaker 1: Freddie Mercury. Obviously, I grew up loving their music. I
- 18:25Speaker 1: still keep my Moet et Chandon in a pretty cabinet.
- 18:29Speaker 1: The movie Bohemian Rhapsody is another story, but I ask you,
- 18:34Speaker 1: which movie is the biggest perversion of music history, Bohemian
- 18:37Speaker 1: Rhapsody or Amadeus? I can't answer this question, Jason, and
- 18:40Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed by it because I love Amadeus, but I
- 18:44Speaker 1: do not know the history of Mozart well enough to comment.
- 18:49Speaker 1: So Jason, I'm asking you, write us back, text us back,
- 18:55Speaker 1: And we will get into it here. Okay. Tell me
- 18:58Speaker 1: what they got wrong. Tell me what the perversion was.
- 19:01Speaker 1: I want to rewatch it. I love the movie. I really,
- 19:03Speaker 1: really do. I think it's great. Appreciate it. 416 Jason.
- 19:07Speaker 1: 808 Texan. I'm going to go out of the box here,
- 19:10Speaker 1: but as far as accurate biopics, I'd say Almost Famous.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Although the characters are fictional, it's pretty accurate to a
- 19:17Speaker 1: Cameron Crowe experience. So The one that's 100% accurate is
- 19:22Speaker 1: Spinal Tap 1 plus 2. For those who don't know,
- 19:25Speaker 1: let's not ruin the twist. Okay, we will not. The
- 19:28Speaker 1: Cameron Crowe thing, I haven't read his book, so I
- 19:30Speaker 1: can't fully comment. I'm supposed to make a comment about
- 19:34Speaker 1: the sentimentality in Almost Famous. Usually when you say that,
- 19:38Speaker 1: it means you're being negative and I'm not. I love
- 19:39Speaker 1: that movie. But it makes you think that maybe it's
- 19:45Speaker 1: not that accurate. But I haven't read the book. It
- 19:47Speaker 1: sounds like you have. So I'm going to go with. you.
- 19:50Speaker 1: I like it. Thank you. Appreciate this. We got to
- 19:54Speaker 1: cover Almost Famous in, this film should be played loud.
- 19:59Speaker 1: Eventually we'll do that. Hey, Jake. Bex from the 410.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Just listened to the Allman Brothers episode. Great info. Funny coincidence.
- 20:07Speaker 1: I was listening to the episode while grocery shopping and
- 20:09Speaker 1: turn back time started playing after you mentioned Cher. Sometimes
- 20:12Speaker 1: things just come together like that. Can't say enough how
- 20:15Speaker 1: much I've been enjoying the show. Thanks. You got it, Bex. 617-906-6638.
- 20:19Speaker 1: Y'all want to hit us up about biopics, about David Crosby,
- 20:25Speaker 1: about supergroups. Let's get into the supergroups conversation. I want
- 20:30Speaker 1: like a sub-genre supergroups, punk rock scene supergroups, hardcore, hip hop.
- 20:38Speaker 1: What do you got? Hit me. Don't say Wu-Tang. They
- 20:41Speaker 1: were a group that became a supergroup. That's an interesting topic, however, though.
- 20:45Speaker 1: Kind of like Fleetwood Mac. All right, listen. Bohemian Rhapsody,
- 20:49Speaker 1: massive undertaking. Freddie Mercury's nearly six-minute song consists of five
- 20:54Speaker 1: distinct parts, including an operatic middle section, of course, required
- 20:59Speaker 1: hundreds of vocal and instrumental overdubs, It was funny, it
- 21:02Speaker 1: was sad, it was exhilarating. But executives from EMI Records
- 21:06Speaker 1: in the UK and Elektra Records in the US demanded
- 21:09Speaker 1: that it be edited for radio. So you know what happened?
- 21:12Speaker 1: Freddie Mercury slipped a copy of the song to London
- 21:14Speaker 1: DJ Kenny Everett, who played it something like 14 times
- 21:17Speaker 1: over the course of a couple of days. And then listeners,
- 21:20Speaker 1: they decided, they loved it. They demanded that the radio
- 21:23Speaker 1: stations keep playing it. They forced the record label's hands down.
- 21:27Speaker 1: So on Halloween in 1975, Bohemian Rhapsody was released as
- 21:31Speaker 1: a single at its intended length, five minutes and 55 seconds.
- 21:35Speaker 1: And one month later, it became a number one hit
- 21:38Speaker 1: on the UK chart. How's that? There you go. A
- 21:41Speaker 1: little history there for Bohemian Rhapsody from our Queen episode
- 21:44Speaker 1: this week. I'll be back in a flash with your emails.
- 22:00Speaker 1: All right, guys, we are rounding the corner, heading into
- 22:02Speaker 1: the home stretch here in the after party, into the
- 22:06Speaker 1: third act, so to speak. I cannot let you guys go, though,
- 22:10Speaker 1: without getting into some of these emails. Jessica writes in, hey,
- 22:14Speaker 1: it's your friendly massage therapist friend. Queen is one of
- 22:17Speaker 1: my all-time favorite bands, and I loved this episode. I
- 22:20Speaker 1: loved how true you were to Freddie's life and personality.
- 22:23Speaker 1: I was saying almost exactly what you were saying as
- 22:25Speaker 1: this episode unfolded. I discovered Queen when I was about 13,
- 22:29Speaker 1: and I became obsessed and had to know everything I
- 22:31Speaker 1: could about Freddie, and now I only date guys who
- 22:33Speaker 1: look similar. Wow. You know what you like, Jessica. There
- 22:38Speaker 1: you go. Thanks for the message. Stoked you liked the episode.
- 22:42Speaker 1: Got a couple comments on Instagram. This one from Michael.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Great episode. Any chance for an Elton John one coming soon?
- 22:52Speaker 2: Maybe.
- 22:52Speaker 1: I don't know. That one's complicated for reasons I don't
- 22:55Speaker 1: want to go into. Pete writes in, hey, the Freddie, Kenny,
- 22:59Speaker 1: and Di story was filmed for a British show called
- 23:03Speaker 1: Urban Myths, which you can find on YouTube. And there's
- 23:06Speaker 1: another story from Brian May that while recording the show
- 23:09Speaker 1: must go on, Freddie was in a bad way. And
- 23:11Speaker 1: I said, Fred, I don't know if this is going
- 23:13Speaker 1: to be possible to sing. And he went, I'll fucking
- 23:15Speaker 1: do it, darling. Vodk it down and went in and
- 23:17Speaker 1: killed it. Completely lacerated his vocals. That's how the movie
- 23:22Speaker 1: should have ended. There you go. All right. That's from,
- 23:25Speaker 1: who's that from? Pete. Tim writes in, I'm going to
- 23:27Speaker 1: say that the Liberace biopic is definitely the most accurate.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Matt Damon definitely likes, okay. Okay. All right. Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim.
- 23:42Speaker 1: All right, so I was talking about Salem's Lot earlier.
- 23:45Speaker 1: This one comes from Delbert Brown, I think because I
- 23:48Speaker 1: mentioned Salem's Lot with Zeth in the Hollywoodland episode we
- 23:51Speaker 1: did this week in the Rap Party. Delbert writes, and man,
- 23:54Speaker 1: Salem's Lot was the first time as a terrified 10-year-old
- 23:58Speaker 1: that I could not sleep until I turned the last
- 24:00Speaker 1: page and made sure that Barlow wasn't under my bed.
- 24:04Speaker 1: Definitely a classic. My personal favorite, though, is Duma Key.
- 24:09Speaker 1: There's something so unsettling, yet sad and hopeful. I couldn't
- 24:12Speaker 1: put that one down either. Would definitely check it out.
- 24:15Speaker 1: And as a Bostonian, you, not me, the girl who
- 24:18Speaker 1: loved Tom Gordon is required while some of the survival
- 24:20Speaker 1: tropes were thin. The fact that her love for a
- 24:23Speaker 1: Red Sox fan keeps it going. The Mr. Mercedes trilogy
- 24:26Speaker 1: is fantastic. Honestly, the Brendan Gleeson TV adaptation isn't too
- 24:30Speaker 1: shabby either. It's good stuff. Hearts in Atlantis, A Sleeper 2. Okay,
- 24:34Speaker 1: I'm going to go through this. Salem's Lot. I don't
- 24:36Speaker 1: remember it being this good. I really don't. I don't
- 24:39Speaker 1: remember Stephen King being this good. And I say this
- 24:41Speaker 1: as a Stephen King fan. I love Stephen King. I've
- 24:44Speaker 1: read many of his books, many of his classic books,
- 24:47Speaker 1: some of the new ones. I read Mr. Mercedes. I
- 24:50Speaker 1: don't remember it being a trilogy though, so maybe I
- 24:52Speaker 1: only read one of the books. I read The Girl
- 24:54Speaker 1: Who Loved Tom Gordon a long, long time ago. And
- 24:57Speaker 1: I've read a bunch of the classics, The Shining, etc.,
- 25:02Speaker 1: I think there's even a sequel to The Shining. I
- 25:03Speaker 1: think I read that. I don't remember it being this good.
- 25:06Speaker 1: I don't remember. I've always thought he was great. Don't
- 25:09Speaker 1: get me wrong. But Salem's Lot is exceptionally good. And
- 25:16Speaker 1: I did start, I tried reading a new Stephen King
- 25:19Speaker 1: book recently and I got two chapters in and I
- 25:22Speaker 1: put it down. I just, it just all felt very,
- 25:26Speaker 1: it felt kind of tired to me, felt very rote.
- 25:28Speaker 1: It felt not like Stephen King. So what I'm going
- 25:33Speaker 1: to do actually after I finish Salem's Lot, Halloween's coming, St.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Michael's Lent as well. I'm going to read The Exorcist again.
- 25:41Speaker 1: I'm going to reread it because I want to compare
- 25:44Speaker 1: that to Salem's Lot. And then I'm going to go
- 25:47Speaker 1: and I'm going to read Carrie after that because I
- 25:49Speaker 1: have not read Carrie yet. I read Cujo. I read
- 25:54Speaker 1: Pet Sematary, Shining, like I said, different seasons. I'm going
- 25:59Speaker 1: to see if like Salem's Lot. So Carrie was number one,
- 26:01Speaker 1: Salem's Lot was number two in Stephen King's releases. And
- 26:05Speaker 1: I just want to see if like it was all
- 26:08Speaker 1: heat in the beginning, all fastballs. Or if Salem's Lot
- 26:12Speaker 1: is an outlier, if it's just really the real exceptional one.
- 26:17Speaker 1: I'm interested. Fascinated by this all of a sudden. Thanks
- 26:21Speaker 1: for indulging me. And Delbert, thank you for your email.
- 26:24Speaker 1: I mentioned Hollywoodland. We have our first Hollywoodland episode that
- 26:28Speaker 1: we ever Or second, actually. Marilyn Monroe was one. Our
- 26:30Speaker 1: second was this one, Fatty Arbuckle. That's available for you.
- 26:34Speaker 1: You want to check that out over there. We got
- 26:36Speaker 1: into a great kind of weird conversation, Zeth and I,
- 26:39Speaker 1: in the wrap party. Did some recommendations on fantasy and
- 26:44Speaker 1: scandal content. Songs about fantasy and movies about scandals, obviously,
- 26:50Speaker 1: relative to Roscoe, Fatty Arbuckle. Get over to the Hollywoodland
- 26:55Speaker 1: feed and subscribe to Hollywoodland if you're not already on
- 26:58Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- 27:02Speaker 1: Filming a new, I got all this new equipment here
- 27:04Speaker 1: on my desk. I got to put this together tomorrow
- 27:07Speaker 1: because Zeth and I are kind of up in the
- 27:10Speaker 1: production a little bit for this film. Should be played loud.
- 27:12Speaker 1: We're filming a new one next week on Gross Point Blank.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Fantastic movie with an excellent soundtrack. If you're not watching
- 27:23Speaker 1: our video podcast, this film should be played loud and
- 27:26Speaker 1: get over to Patreon and sign up to become an
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- 27:36Speaker 1: and the music in them that you love. Okay. It's just,
- 27:38Speaker 1: it's the only movies and music podcast that matters. Joe
- 27:43Speaker 1: Stormer said that you can look it up. It's true.
- 27:45Speaker 1: That's this film should be played loud. You know what
- 27:48Speaker 1: you also get if you're an All Access member? You
- 27:50Speaker 1: get this conversation coming up right now with Zeth and
- 27:52Speaker 1: I about biopics that are not about musicians but are fantastic.
- 27:57Speaker 1: That's coming up right now. If you're not an All
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- 28:02Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. All right, we are
- 28:18Speaker 1: back and ready to split. But before we do, get
- 28:21Speaker 1: into that archive of nearly 300 episodes of Disgraceland. New listeners, 300, nearly,
- 28:27Speaker 1: nearly 300 episodes of Disgraceland on artists from every genre,
- 28:32Speaker 1: pretty much. And I don't know, you get a favorite
- 28:36Speaker 1: artist and you're like, damn, why hasn't Disgraceland covered Jeff Buckley? Well,
- 28:39Speaker 1: we have, and you can go find that in our archive.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Why hasn't Disgraceland covered Lil Peep. Well, we have, and
- 28:46Speaker 1: you can go find that in our archive. Why hasn't
- 28:48Speaker 1: Disgraceland covered Gigi Allen? There's a Gigi Allen biopic coming out.
- 28:52Speaker 1: Why hasn't that been covered? Well, we did. We did
- 28:55Speaker 1: cover Gigi Allen back in, I believe, season one. Matt
- 28:58Speaker 1: will put the episode information in the show notes section
- 29:01Speaker 1: of this here bonus episode to make it easy to
- 29:03Speaker 1: navigate to those stories. Hit me up directly at DisgracelandPod, 617-906-6638,
- 29:09Speaker 1: voicemail and text DisgracelandPod at gmail.com. If you have an
- 29:14Speaker 1: episode you're curious about, an artist you're curious about, you
- 29:17Speaker 1: want to know if we covered them or not, or
- 29:18Speaker 1: if you think you have an artist that would make
- 29:20Speaker 1: for a great episode of Disgraceland, let us know. I
- 29:24Speaker 1: got to get out of here. Number one, this week,
- 29:26Speaker 1: our new episode on Queen is available for you right now.
- 29:28Speaker 1: Number two, in the rewind slot this weekend, our classic
- 29:31Speaker 1: episode on Tom DeLonge in Blink-182. Number three, next week,
- 29:34Speaker 1: our next new episode, that's on David Crosby. Numero cuatro,
- 29:38Speaker 1: Zeth is giving you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodland,
- 29:40Speaker 1: so make sure you're subscribed. I'm going to give you
- 29:43Speaker 1: my music recommendations in the rap party over in the
- 29:45Speaker 1: Hollywoodland feed every week. Make sure you're subscribed to Hollywoodland
- 29:49Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or the iHeartRadio app or
- 29:53Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Someone just walked into my house.
- 29:55Speaker 1: I can hear him blabbing over there. Number five, This
- 29:57Speaker 1: film should be played loud. Our video podcast episode on
- 30:01Speaker 1: licorice pizza is available for you right now. Our next
- 30:04Speaker 1: episode on gross point blank is coming September 23rd. Go
- 30:07Speaker 1: to disgracelandpod.com. Sign up to become an all access member.
- 30:10Speaker 1: I can lower my voice now. They stopped talking. Number six, 617-906-6638.
- 30:16Speaker 1: Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of
- 30:18Speaker 1: music history. So keep calling, texting with your answers to
- 30:20Speaker 1: this week's question of the week or with whatever else
- 30:22Speaker 1: you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget discos.
- 30:25Speaker 1: This isn't just content. It's a community, a community of
- 30:27Speaker 1: the obsessed. And no one cares about music, books, records,
- 30:30Speaker 1: and the crime and grime that ties them all together
- 30:32Speaker 1: like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right.
- 30:35Speaker 1: Back on November 2nd, 2018, Bohemian Rhapsody, the biopic, was released.
- 30:41Speaker 1: And this is what America was listening to on that day,
- 30:44Speaker 1: according to the Billboard charts. Number one, thank you. Next,
- 30:49Speaker 1: Ariana Grande. Last week, not applicable. Weeks on chart, one.
- 30:54Speaker 1: Peak position, one. Number two, Girls Like You, Maroon 5,
- 30:59Speaker 1: featuring Cardi B. Last week, one. Peak position, one. Weeks
- 31:05Speaker 1: on Charge, 24. Number three, Sicko Mode, Travis Scott. Last
- 31:10Speaker 1: week's on two. Peak position, two. Weeks on Charge, 14.
- 31:16Speaker 1: Number four, Happy. Marshmallow and Biscuit. Last week's on six.
- 31:21Speaker 1: Peak position, three. Weeks on Charge, 12. Number five, Lucid Dreams.
- 31:26Speaker 1: Last week's on four. Quit talking and start mixing.