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Falcons give HUGE EXTENSION to Bijan Robinson, Sando’s NFL QB Tiers Reaction, NFL Training Camp Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: just let's just dive right in. But I definitely wanted
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Speaker 1: to start with the morning breaking news of Bjon Robinson
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Speaker 1: becoming the highest paid running back in the NFL. Everyone's like,
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Speaker 1: three year, seventy five million dollars. They are given some
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Speaker 1: serious money to running backs. It's like I just saw
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Speaker 1: a center this offseason get twenty seven million dollars a year.
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Speaker 1: I've seen average guards make up to twenty four million
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Speaker 1: dollars a year. I do not understand in twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: six how the NFL is so out of whack. Like
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Speaker 1: Zayflowers got a contract today, and he's a good wide receiver.
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Speaker 1: He was once a first round pick and he's made
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Speaker 1: a bunch of plays. He's never going to be a
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Speaker 1: top probably a top ten wide receiver in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Definitely a top six or seven wide receiver in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: He will never sniff what jamar Cha, Ceedee Lamb, Justin Jefferson.
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Speaker 1: The top guys on a year in, year out basis
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Speaker 1: like the impact they have and if you could choose.
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Speaker 1: You would always take those guys over him. What Davante
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Speaker 1: was in his prime. Puka Jsn again, really good player.
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Speaker 1: Every team would want him. But you know, we talk
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Speaker 1: quarterback tiers, he's one a second tier wide receiver. In
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Speaker 1: guaranteed dollars, he cost over one hundred million dollars. If
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Speaker 1: you just pulled every GM and every defensive coordinator in
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Speaker 1: the NFL, is Bjhon Robinson not just one of, if
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Speaker 1: not the best running back. Is he one of the
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Speaker 1: best offensive players non quarterbacks in the NFL. There would
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Speaker 1: be a universal yes. And what I can't wrap my
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Speaker 1: head around is for a long period of time, it
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Speaker 1: was a running league seventies, eighties, even the nineties, right,
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Speaker 1: and passing has evolved, so it's it's become more of
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Speaker 1: a pass centric league. And wide receivers have dramatically benefited
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Speaker 1: from that kind of market explosion because their stats look
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Speaker 1: way better. Even if you're not Jerry Rice, Randy Moss.
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Speaker 1: You know some all time great you can catch ninety
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Speaker 1: balls and be a guy that's like, is he really
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Speaker 1: that good? B John Robinson's own teammate who again, I
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Speaker 1: like Drake London good player. I'm not sure he's ever
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Speaker 1: gonna be a top five wide receiver. This offseason got
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Speaker 1: over one hundred million dollars and you could sign and
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget a couple of years ago, this is
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Speaker 1: when it really first started working in my brain, because
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Speaker 1: I was always on the side like I wouldn't pay
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Speaker 1: a running back either, And then the market got so
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Speaker 1: I would say diminished, just it became so out of
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Speaker 1: whack relative to the rest of these NFL positions beside
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Speaker 1: like quarterback, pass rusher, and offensive tackle, which understandable. I
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Speaker 1: would pay the elite guys all the money at those positions,
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Speaker 1: but it's like wide receiver, like I'm having some tough
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Speaker 1: conversations unless you're certain individuals. And when Howie Roseman signed
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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley to a contract that he only had to
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Speaker 1: guarantee I think twenty seven million dollars when he stole
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Speaker 1: him from the Giants, and then he's the best player
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Speaker 1: on a team that wins the Super Bowl, and we
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Speaker 1: all knew he had like elite ability. He just needed
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Speaker 1: to go to the right spot. He goes to a
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Speaker 1: great offensive line. In every game, it felt like he
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Speaker 1: was running for three hundred yards. He was unstoppable. He
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Speaker 1: had a season where I think he had seven or
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Speaker 1: eight runs at over sixty yards. He couldn't be he
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Speaker 1: was had one of the truly great offensive seasons we've
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Speaker 1: ever seen. And he goes, didn't have to spend that much.
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Speaker 1: I went, I don't know. And then you see guys
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Speaker 1: like McCaffrey, Bjon Gibbs. These guys aren't just running backs.
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Speaker 1: They are offensive weapons. Bijeon Cott seventy nine balls last year.
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Speaker 1: If you told Bijon Gibbs or we'll see what McCaffrey
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Speaker 1: looks like during the season. But McCaffrey in his prime,
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Speaker 1: you can't play running back anymore. You can just play receiver,
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Speaker 1: slot outside, wherever you are just purely a receiver. You
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Speaker 1: line up opposite at tackle or a tight end every
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Speaker 1: single play. Those guys would be fine, and they would dominate,
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Speaker 1: but they happened to also have the ability to rush
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Speaker 1: for fourteen fifteen, sixteen hundred yards and catch seventy to
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Speaker 1: ninety balls thousand yards and get you a ton of
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Speaker 1: touchdowns that way. Yet they're compensated like they're not nearly
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Speaker 1: as good as the players in which they're compared to.
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Speaker 1: So we are currently dealing with the market that if
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Speaker 1: you have a second tier wide receiver. I saw this
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Brandon Ayuk, I went, under
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Speaker 1: no circumstances can you max out a guy who is
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Speaker 1: at most gonna catch you eighty balls, yet because of
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Speaker 1: the position he plays, you're gonna have to give twenty
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Speaker 1: eight to thirty million dollars. It didn't make any financial
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Speaker 1: sense when they did it. It became an emotional move.
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Speaker 1: And then I see it year in and year out
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Speaker 1: that these guys that most of us would not consider,
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Speaker 1: not even close to a top five wide receiver getting
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Speaker 1: I mean half of Wells Fargo delivered to their bank accounts,
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Speaker 1: and a guy like Bijon Robinson, and I'm sure Gibbs
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Speaker 1: will have either the copy and pasted Robinson contract or
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Speaker 1: maybe you know, a couple percent added on tax because
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Speaker 1: usually when you sign after you get a little bit
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Speaker 1: more of not anywhere near some of these other guys
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Speaker 1: that they are clearly better football players too or then,
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Speaker 1: and it's not like they're just asked to carry the ball.
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Speaker 1: These guys dominate in the passing game, where linebackers and
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Speaker 1: safeties in the open field struggle to tackle them. I
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Speaker 1: just I think sometimes marketing efficiencies really have changed the
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Speaker 1: way we've looked at things. And now in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: all these positions are kind of paid premiums. You know,
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Speaker 1: you got centers making twenty seven million dollars, You've got
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Speaker 1: detackles making thirty five million dollars a year. We have
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Speaker 1: safeties now making twenty twenty five million dollars a year.
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Speaker 1: Linebackers two right up there at twenty plus. But if
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Speaker 1: I could have a guy like Bijon Robinson on my team,
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Speaker 1: like I don't know, if you just had a player
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Speaker 1: draft non quarterback of every guy offensively in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: I don't know how far we're getting down the list
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Speaker 1: before Bijon Robinson is coming off the board because he
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Speaker 1: is definitely going above Drake London. He is definitely going
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Speaker 1: above Flowers and he costs half as much. So I
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Speaker 1: I just I think we're at a point in time
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Speaker 1: that they're so far behind. It's not like they're ever
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Speaker 1: going to make the jump, but it is one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent out of whack. And when you look at Jeremiah Love,
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Speaker 1: who is projected to be a similar type player, do
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Speaker 1: it all If the Cardinals could ever figure their shit out,
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Speaker 1: which under Michael Bidwell honestly feels not likely. They would
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Speaker 1: have a guy who could be one of the best
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Speaker 1: players in the league at a fraction of the price
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Speaker 1: of guys on other teams who are considered good definitely
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Speaker 1: not great, And you got the way better player at
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Speaker 1: a way cheaper number. So and it's Talary cab Leak.
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Speaker 1: You're always manipulating the cap. Well, you don't have to
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Speaker 1: manipulate that much when you're actually not throwing around signing
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Speaker 1: bonuses and guaranteed numbers that aren't that big. So right now,
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Speaker 1: the running back market, if you can get them, I
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Speaker 1: would be all over it because it is a relatively
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Speaker 1: cheap kind of avenue to go down. And speaking of
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Speaker 1: you know this offensive talent now, Drake London, Kyle Pitts,
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Speaker 1: and Bijon Robinson all extended this offseason. I sometimes come
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Speaker 1: off like a hater. I'm really not. I met Stefanski
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago at the Combine. Seems like
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Speaker 1: a nice guy. Clearly he is well liked in the
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Speaker 1: NFL community. I just struggle when some guys get kind
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Speaker 1: of anointed as like Kevin Stefanski is a fantastic coach,
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Speaker 1: like is he because typically good offensive coaches figure out
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Speaker 1: ways to manipulate some yards. And I've watched in the
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Speaker 1: last couple of years and I went, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if he was some dynamic coach. I'm not holding him
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Speaker 1: to playoff standards, but it should look a little bit
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Speaker 1: better than it did. And last year was a complete abomination.
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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it was an embarrassment. It really was.
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Speaker 1: And now he goes to a team which I think
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Speaker 1: is pretty easy. But we other quarterback situation. They got Tua, well,
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Speaker 1: someone in that building had to want Tua like well,
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Speaker 1: he was cheap, okay, I wouldn't want two on my
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Speaker 1: team for five dollars. That they were cool with making
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Speaker 1: him a part of this quarterback room, especially when they
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Speaker 1: knew that Pennix is not guaranteed to be ready week one.
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Speaker 1: They were comfortable with we might have to start a
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Speaker 1: game with Tua. I did see Mike McDaniel win some
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Speaker 1: football games with Tuataga bay Loa Pennix, who I was
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Speaker 1: guilty I thought was going to be a really good
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Speaker 1: NFL player. I'm not as confident at this point, especially
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Speaker 1: coming off like it's seventeenth ACL injury. But if I
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Speaker 1: give Sean McVay, Kevin O'Connell, Shanahan, Lafleur, Drake London, Kyle Pitts,
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Speaker 1: and Bijon Robinson, they would be able to win seven
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Speaker 1: eight games. And I'm looking at the Atlanta Falcons going
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Speaker 1: don't trust the coach. Definitely do not trust the quarterback situation.
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Speaker 1: Like I've seen the Browns with some players and it
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Speaker 1: still look really really bad, Like well, John, their offensive
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Speaker 1: line was horrendous. Okay, the Falcons offensive line is more
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Speaker 1: than serviceable. So I don't think the Falcons are making
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'm not going to hold Stefanski to like
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Speaker 1: anything less than the playoffs is a failure, but I
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Speaker 1: kind of know what it looks like, and to me,
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Speaker 1: there is some pressure to go, like you should be
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Speaker 1: able to function with all these weapons, to manipulate some
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Speaker 1: sort of offense, especially if Pennix is ready to go
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Speaker 1: early in the season. It doesn't have to look great,
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Speaker 1: but it can't look like what has been the last
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Speaker 1: couple of years. Because this kind of label that you
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Speaker 1: carry with you of being a really good offensive coach,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to erase that because currently, that's no
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Speaker 1: longer inact, that's in pencil, and I got the eraser
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Speaker 1: in my back pocket and I'm ready to remove that
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Speaker 1: from wherever they put it on your desk, because they
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Speaker 1: had a lot of money worth a lot of high
12:28
Speaker 1: end players. And here's the other thing. I think there's
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Speaker 1: two school of thoughts. Personally, I would have entertained trading
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Speaker 1: b John Robinson because I don't think it's team's going anywhere.
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Speaker 1: James Pierce, who had the crazy incident with the WNBA
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Speaker 1: girlfriend who somehow just avoided all charges. Everything got dropped
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Speaker 1: and everything's just good. Now, it's like, how is that
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Speaker 1: even possible? We had the video, we witnessed it all.
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Speaker 1: It's like, no, nothing happened. Actually, it's like, okay was
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Speaker 1: carded off. Now. The one thing in recording this, by
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Speaker 1: the time you listen to this, we might have right
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Speaker 1: a report of something very serious. But we've seen enough
13:05
Speaker 1: over the course of the last I don't know, two
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Speaker 1: weeks just because you get carted off, some guys freak out,
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Speaker 1: some guys are scared. Sometimes I have seen so far
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Speaker 1: during training camp a guy get carted off and it's
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Speaker 1: a shin bruise. So I think I think the Falcons went.
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Speaker 1: We got good players because every team would want Drake London.
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Speaker 1: I don't know for that price, Kyle Pitts and definitely
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Speaker 1: be John Robinson, and we will figure out the quarterback later.
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Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of teams just never be able
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Speaker 1: to figure out the quarterback, but they've taken the kind
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Speaker 1: of tactic of team building. Listen, we're not gonna trade
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Speaker 1: these guys. We're not gonna go Miami Dolphins and just
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Speaker 1: try to get first round picks and pick the guys
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Speaker 1: NFL Sando put out his list today and you know
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Speaker 1: it wasn't too shocking, right, Mahomes is kind of grandfathered
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Speaker 1: in it. One. Then you got Josh Allen, who I
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Speaker 1: think most people would say is the best quarterback in
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Speaker 1: the league. But if you're based on resume, you got
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Speaker 1: the Burrows, the Lamar's, the Herbert's, like the same cast
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Speaker 1: of characters are near the top. What I find fascinating,
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Speaker 1: and this gets back to the contract situation. Most good
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks right are not gonna be Patrick Mahomes and Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen are not gonna win multi MVPs, like Lamar Jackson,
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Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott's Jared Goff. If you're a betting man
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Speaker 1: right now, you see those guys are never gonna win
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Speaker 1: an MVP. Brock Purty is never gonna win an MVP.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you can't win a ton of games
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Speaker 1: with that guy. It doesn't mean you can't go to
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. You're in, you're out with that guy. Saying
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Speaker 1: what Sam Darnold's proven to be. Now he's a super
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Speaker 1: Bowl champion, but what he's really proven to be, Like,
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Speaker 1: if I'm your starting quarterback, I'm not gonna be Patrick
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Speaker 1: Mahomes or Josh Allen. But if you do a good
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Speaker 1: enough job the Vikings with Kevin O'Connell and Flores two
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Speaker 1: years ago, John schnyder and Mike McDonald last year of
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Speaker 1: building a good team around me, I can take you
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs and then listen. Football is a one
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Speaker 1: game scenario. Anything's fucking possible. Seattle got hot, they won
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Speaker 1: that NFC Championship game and got a shitty Patriot team,
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Speaker 1: shitty relative to most Super Bowl teams. Obviously, the Patriots
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Speaker 1: had a good year, you know what I mean? That groups,
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Speaker 1: to me is the most fascinating because if I get
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Speaker 1: a Patrick Mahomes, a Josh Allen, a Lamar Jackson, a
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, those guys always get a blank check. Those
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Speaker 1: guys always set the market and you feel good about it.
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Speaker 1: The other guys are the polarizing ones. It's like, you
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Speaker 1: just gave Dak Prescott how much money and he got
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Speaker 1: crushed for his contract sixty million dollars a year. You're
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Speaker 1: giving Jared Goffin perty fifty to fifty five million dollars
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Speaker 1: a year? Are you nuts? It was like every year
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Speaker 1: I look up and they're over five hundred last year,
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Speaker 1: the reason the Lions didn't make the playoffs wasn't because
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Speaker 1: of Jared Goff. It was because their offensive coordinator was
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Speaker 1: a disaster, had to get fired in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the season, and defensively, their secondary was atrocious. He was
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Speaker 1: playoff worthy. He honestly, statistically wasn't that different from the
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Speaker 1: year before. Brock Purdy had multiple games down the stretch.
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Speaker 1: I mean he had dueled Kayleb Williams Monday Night Football
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Speaker 1: with a couple of weeks left to go in the season.
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Speaker 1: Bigger reason the forty nine ers wildcard team. Then Boom
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Speaker 1: goes on the road they beat the Philadelphia Eagles. So
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Speaker 1: to me, the key is if you're never going to
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Speaker 1: be a top four or five quarterback in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: and most guys like Mahomes, Josh, you know people are
18:33
Speaker 1: being critical of Lamar, I would expect them to have
18:35
Speaker 1: a pretty good season. Herbert Burrow is kind of widely
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Speaker 1: considered the top group of guys that aren't thirty eight,
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Speaker 1: thirty nine years old like Stafford. And if Stafford, you know,
18:45
Speaker 1: was in the prime of his career, he would be
18:47
Speaker 1: grandfathered into that unit for the next four or five years.
18:50
Speaker 1: If he was with McVeigh just like Rogers for a
18:52
Speaker 1: majority of his career was considered right there with Brady
18:55
Speaker 1: and Manning best quarterback in the league. Those guys are
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Speaker 1: outlier even to their own position. The majority of the
19:02
Speaker 1: group is Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, Joe Fly It's that
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Speaker 1: next tier guys, which Dak, Goff, Purdy, Sam Darnold Baker.
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Speaker 1: That group. And as long as to me, you are
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Speaker 1: hovering somewhere between seven and twelve in that group, You're
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Speaker 1: in good shape. And while I'm paying you more money
19:24
Speaker 1: than I'm probably comfortable with, it's on me as the
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Speaker 1: team builder. It's on me as the coach, to do
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Speaker 1: a good enough job. We can win double digit games,
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Speaker 1: we can go to the playoffs, and then, like I said,
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Speaker 1: anything is possible. I've said this forever about Dak. He's
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Speaker 1: had some fantastic years, won twelve games, got to the
19:42
Speaker 1: playoffs and just look like a completely different player. Absolutely
19:46
Speaker 1: shit the bed. So is Lamar Jackson. You know, I've
19:50
Speaker 1: seen Eli Manning have some bizarre years in his career,
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Speaker 1: even play average kind of in the regular season, get
19:57
Speaker 1: to the playoffs and look like Tom Brady, then literally
20:00
Speaker 1: out duel Tom Brady or go toe to toe with
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Speaker 1: him in a super Bowl and win them Flaco, same thing.
20:06
Speaker 1: It's like, how good is Flacco? And then he goes
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Speaker 1: on one of the great hot runs in like the
20:10
Speaker 1: history of the league. In a contract here, So if
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Speaker 1: those guys can do it, Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, Brock Purdy,
20:16
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, and listen, you removed the Rams game from
20:20
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. I wouldn't say he was actually some dominant,
20:24
Speaker 1: dominant quarterback in a lot of the playoff games. But
20:27
Speaker 1: that's not always your job. And when I have that
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Speaker 1: version of a player, I don't always ask them to
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Speaker 1: carry my team right now, you have to make sacrifices
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Speaker 1: when you're paying a large amount of money. The problem
20:40
Speaker 1: where you get into is like when you're the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Speaker 1: On this list, Jalen Hurts was seventeen, behind Purty, behind Baker,
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Speaker 1: behind Donald, obviously Goff and Dak, who were I think
20:55
Speaker 1: seven and eight and seven respectively. If Jays I don't
21:02
Speaker 1: need Jalen Hurts to be a top five quarterback, you
21:04
Speaker 1: know why he's not a top five quarterback. He'll never
21:06
Speaker 1: be a top five quarterback. And there's nothing wrong with that.
21:08
Speaker 1: But I can't have him being the seventeenth best quarterback
21:10
Speaker 1: when I'm paying fifty one million dollars a year. I
21:13
Speaker 1: need him to be like eleven, twelve, ten. If he's
21:18
Speaker 1: doing that with the roster how he's built, they'll be fine.
21:22
Speaker 1: But when he's seventeen, let's face it, it feels closer to
21:24
Speaker 1: twenty five than he does ten. That's a disaster because
21:30
Speaker 1: the money and the amount of guaranteed dollars and the
21:34
Speaker 1: way I build a salary cap when I give a
21:36
Speaker 1: contract at that size, if he's trending the wrong way,
21:41
Speaker 1: I'm fucked. There's no way around it. And this is
21:45
Speaker 1: why I'm a little hesitant on the Eagles, not because
21:49
Speaker 1: I don't think the roster is loaded with good players,
21:51
Speaker 1: not that I don't. Vic Fangio is one of the
21:53
Speaker 1: best defensive coordinators in my lifetime. His defense is loaded
21:57
Speaker 1: with talent. They were good on defense las year. Offensively,
22:02
Speaker 1: what I saw last year is something that you just
22:05
Speaker 1: can't forget. You can forget a bad game. Peyton Manny's
22:08
Speaker 1: had bad games, Rogers have bad games. Joe Montana, every quarterback,
22:13
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan had bad games. It's called sports. Tiger Woods
22:16
Speaker 1: didn't shoot sixty five every round. You know, every Beef Wellington,
22:21
Speaker 1: Gordon Ramsay makes isn't perfect. You're allowed to fuck up.
22:25
Speaker 1: I have some bad podcasts. Sometimes I hang up the mic.
22:29
Speaker 1: I go, god, that was terrible, honestly. Right now, getting
22:32
Speaker 1: up at four in the morning doing Collins Show, it's like,
22:34
Speaker 1: I my brain's you know, not firing at all cylinders.
22:40
Speaker 1: But like, you gotta produce, you gotta dig deep, you
22:43
Speaker 1: gotta find a way. And that was one number. And
22:46
Speaker 1: again this is all based on the leak. This is
22:49
Speaker 1: based on coordinators, head coaches, personnel, people like for as
22:54
Speaker 1: much as like, oh they got biases, they got agenda.
22:57
Speaker 1: When you work in the league, do you know what
22:59
Speaker 1: your agenda is? To base it off the film and
23:03
Speaker 1: the one thing and this is Russell had this. Russell
23:07
Speaker 1: Wilson is the only quarterback. And I was telling one
23:11
Speaker 1: of the guys at Fox today, you know, I've been
23:14
Speaker 1: working on not being grouchy in my house, being positive,
23:19
Speaker 1: and I saw this, this, this Instagram post from Russell
23:22
Speaker 1: Wilson and Russell say what you want about him a
23:26
Speaker 1: little cheesy for me personally, he's always positive. I never
23:30
Speaker 1: see that guy on a post on social media or
23:34
Speaker 1: just in any time during his football career, or he's negative.
23:38
Speaker 1: I said it to my wife, I'm gonna be like,
23:39
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to have more of this attitude because
23:42
Speaker 1: he's just, he's just, he's an uplifter, and it's my
23:46
Speaker 1: nature is to be a little negative, you know. So
23:47
Speaker 1: we're working on trying to be a little more positive
23:50
Speaker 1: in the home. But it is not positive when you're
23:53
Speaker 1: paying a guy fifty one million dollars and they're seventeenth
23:57
Speaker 1: and back to Russell Wilson is typically All Star Pro Bowl.
24:06
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna end up in the
24:07
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, but for a long period of time,
24:09
Speaker 1: it felt like he was a Hall of Fame player
24:12
Speaker 1: or trending that way. Their coordinators when they're head coach
24:18
Speaker 1: as a defensive guy, become head coaches. All of Russell
24:22
Speaker 1: Wilson's coordinators were fired, Bevil Schottenheimer, they were all shit canned,
24:29
Speaker 1: Shane Waldron at the end, all fired. None of them,
24:33
Speaker 1: I repeat, none of them went on to become head
24:37
Speaker 1: coaches while they were coordinating for Russell Wilson. That's insane.
24:42
Speaker 1: How many coordinators have gotten fired on Jalen Hurts's watch
24:47
Speaker 1: last time I checked multiple And if this doesn't go well,
24:51
Speaker 1: I would say Sean Mannion's tenure would be in some trouble.
24:55
Speaker 1: And I'm just not a believer that this offense and
24:58
Speaker 1: this player is gonna have a great working relationship. Could
25:03
Speaker 1: be wrong. And I've already prefaced it by if they
25:07
Speaker 1: are one of the top running teams in the league,
25:11
Speaker 1: he will be okay because this offense will give them
25:14
Speaker 1: enough layups that it can work. But if they cannot
25:18
Speaker 1: run the ball and he is forced to play in
25:20
Speaker 1: the pocket in this offense, it's I got major questions
25:25
Speaker 1: and I will short it. So we've seen the Eagles.
25:30
Speaker 1: They will pivot. They are cutthroat. They are not emotional
25:34
Speaker 1: when it comes to players the moment you start making
25:37
Speaker 1: a lot of money and don't live up to that
25:41
Speaker 1: standard in terms of production. And a quarterback wins and losses,
25:45
Speaker 1: because you can tell me on the internet, wins and
25:48
Speaker 1: losses is not a quarterback stat I'm gonna pull back
25:50
Speaker 1: and say bullshit. All the best quarterbacks in my lifetime
25:54
Speaker 1: tend to win a lot. Doesn't mean you win the
25:56
Speaker 1: super Bowl every year, doesn't mean you win thirteen games
25:59
Speaker 1: a year, but on the most part, the star quarterbacks
26:02
Speaker 1: typically have winning records most years, and I think he
26:07
Speaker 1: is one of the most fascinating stories in the league.
26:09
Speaker 1: Another guy that we're going to talk a lot about
26:12
Speaker 1: because this team has Super Bowl aspirations. The problem is
26:16
Speaker 1: their quarterback is on this list ranked number twenty, And
26:20
Speaker 1: if you have the twentieth best quarterback, your team basically
26:23
Speaker 1: needs to be like the two thousand and one Ravens,
26:26
Speaker 1: the two thousand and two Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the eighty
26:29
Speaker 1: five Bears, just an all time great team where your
26:33
Speaker 1: quarterback can just kind of fit in and no one
26:36
Speaker 1: notices and try not to screw it up. CJ. Stroud,
26:40
Speaker 1: who was drafted second overall, still plays like a guy
26:44
Speaker 1: trying to show everyone that he's a superstar and it
26:48
Speaker 1: just doesn't work. And I said last year, towards the
26:51
Speaker 1: end of the season and in the playoff stretch, it's like, bro,
26:54
Speaker 1: you just need to find a way to become Ryan
26:58
Speaker 1: Tannehill on Tennessee, Alex Smith on Kansas City. You just
27:02
Speaker 1: need to be somewhat of a game manager and do
27:06
Speaker 1: not fuck it up. And at twenty that also feels
27:10
Speaker 1: kind of generous. He feels closer to twenty five, twenty
27:13
Speaker 1: eight than he does fifteen. Is he is my number
27:17
Speaker 1: one question mark for the Houston Texans. So when I
27:19
Speaker 1: say I love the Houston Texans, I'm just such a
27:22
Speaker 1: believer in all their players that it's like they're going
27:24
Speaker 1: to be so good in the regular season. I think
27:28
Speaker 1: they can overcome that. But in these one off situations
27:32
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden, it's a thirteen to thirteen
27:35
Speaker 1: game in the third quarter, there's no way you could
27:37
Speaker 1: trust this player right now in the regular season over
27:40
Speaker 1: the course, our defense is so dominant the division. Actually,
27:43
Speaker 1: you know, Titans are not going to be that great.
27:45
Speaker 1: Still got a lot of question marks with the Colts.
27:49
Speaker 1: We'll see the Jacks. I mean, are they just a
27:51
Speaker 1: consistent playoff team? Historically that hasn't been the case. Now
27:54
Speaker 1: maybe that's changed because Liam Cohen is basically Ben Johnson
27:59
Speaker 1: of Florida, which might be the case. I mean, I'm
28:02
Speaker 1: not I'm a Liam Cohen guy, but I just think
28:06
Speaker 1: this CJ. Stroud thing is is a legitimate problem for
28:11
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, who have, minus the quarterback, a super
28:15
Speaker 1: super Bowl level operation. So this this thing's always fascinating.
28:21
Speaker 1: You know. You see some names like Drake May is
28:25
Speaker 1: an excellent talent. I'm pro Drake May. Same with you know,
28:31
Speaker 1: any guy who's had a one off season like Jadon
28:34
Speaker 1: Daniels had one good season that was two years ago.
28:36
Speaker 1: What do I make of those guys? You know, the
28:39
Speaker 1: most of these other you know Dak and Goff. These
28:41
Speaker 1: guys have been doing it for ten plus years now.
28:44
Speaker 1: You know, Perty has three four years body of work.
28:48
Speaker 1: Even Caleb, and I know Colin loves to put him
28:50
Speaker 1: as like a top five quarterback in the NFL if
28:54
Speaker 1: you want to call him the John Elway A comebacks Okay,
28:58
Speaker 1: I think he had seven comebacks last year, a ton
29:01
Speaker 1: of game winning drives, one in the playoff game against
29:03
Speaker 1: Green Bay. There is no disputing that. But to be
29:06
Speaker 1: a great player, it's not just about the fourth quarters
29:08
Speaker 1: and the comebacks. I know he can do that. He's
29:10
Speaker 1: right there with Josh Allen is one of the other
29:13
Speaker 1: talented throwers of the football we've ever seen. But like,
29:17
Speaker 1: are you gonna be an MVP candidate and are you
29:19
Speaker 1: gonna do it year in and year out? Then you'll,
29:21
Speaker 1: like Caleb would be a guy outside of the top
29:23
Speaker 1: five or six that this guy's top five ceiling. Most
29:27
Speaker 1: of these other guys do not. I would say Jaden
29:31
Speaker 1: based on two years ago, yeah he would as well.
29:35
Speaker 1: But like you know, Caleb, I don't really get worried
29:38
Speaker 1: about injuries because he's been a very durable player. Jade
29:41
Speaker 1: Daniel's durability has been a pretty big question mark. And
29:45
Speaker 1: if I was gonna bottom feed a little bit, I
29:49
Speaker 1: think Jacoby Burssett at thirty three is too low. Like
29:54
Speaker 1: I would have Jacoby Burssettes much higher based on what
29:57
Speaker 1: we saw last year. Now, maybe I'm just a little
30:00
Speaker 1: of the moment. I understand he what one to eleven
30:02
Speaker 1: in the games in which he started, He did throw
30:04
Speaker 1: twenty three touchdowns and his defense was basically rolling out
30:08
Speaker 1: me and you there again though, I mean, we're what
30:10
Speaker 1: are we doing here? Kirk Cousins twenty eight, Some of
30:13
Speaker 1: the numbers at the bottom, it's it's hard, you know.
30:16
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of debate on Jordan Love
30:18
Speaker 1: being a top ten quarterback feels a little high for me.
30:23
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if i'd have Jordan Love.
30:27
Speaker 1: Like you, if you told me right now, would you
30:28
Speaker 1: rather have Sam Donald or Jordan Love. I think I'd
30:33
Speaker 1: take Sam Donald. I think Sam Donald's ceiling is higher.
30:38
Speaker 1: I would definitely yeah. I mean, and to me, Baker
30:43
Speaker 1: Mayfield is a guy, and this is his argument, right,
30:48
Speaker 1: I totally know the group of quarterbacks he sees himself
30:51
Speaker 1: with that is Jared Goff, Dak Prescott, Brock Purty, and
30:54
Speaker 1: he sees how much money those guys are making, and
30:57
Speaker 1: that's the type contract he wants. And that's what makes
30:59
Speaker 1: the say is very complicated. It's back to the CJ.
31:02
Speaker 1: Stroud thing. There aren't many, you know, like under if
31:07
Speaker 1: I'm Nick Cassirio, there's no way we talked about contract
31:09
Speaker 1: extensions this offseason. Would you give him some massive max
31:13
Speaker 1: contract for a quarterback? Of course not. Would you even
31:16
Speaker 1: feel comfortable giving him the Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold like
31:19
Speaker 1: the three for one hundred. I don't even think you
31:21
Speaker 1: would do that either. So it's you're kind of in
31:24
Speaker 1: no man's land. You're kind of in just like, let's
31:26
Speaker 1: play it out, worst case scenario, you end up not
31:29
Speaker 1: being our quarterback and we have to figure it out.
31:32
Speaker 1: This list is always fascinating, though, And uh, I think
31:37
Speaker 1: one thing that has powered the NFL through for a
31:39
Speaker 1: long time. Is I'm a child of the eighties, right,
31:45
Speaker 1: I don't even remember l Way, Marino, Joe Montana, those
31:49
Speaker 1: guys in their prime. But I bet people at one
31:52
Speaker 1: point in time in the mid to late eighties went,
31:54
Speaker 1: how are we ever going to replace these guys? And
31:57
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you looked up when I
31:58
Speaker 1: was a kid, and you've got Steve Young, You've got
32:01
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman. Then Brett fav comes around, and you start thinking,
32:04
Speaker 1: how are we ever gonna replace these guys? And then
32:07
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, then Peyton Manning, then Philip Rivers, and then
32:10
Speaker 1: this guy named Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees and all
32:13
Speaker 1: these guys, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning. It's like, how are
32:17
Speaker 1: we gonna replace all these guys? And then Mahome. It
32:20
Speaker 1: just it's a never ending cycle. And football has been
32:24
Speaker 1: very lucky that they've just always had a crew of
32:29
Speaker 1: five to six power names. And then the second tier
32:34
Speaker 1: guys are not as don't have the high end talent
32:38
Speaker 1: as a lot of those guys, but can have great seasons,
32:41
Speaker 1: do it for a long period of time, can get
32:43
Speaker 1: hot in the playoffs and become Super Bowl champions have
32:46
Speaker 1: big moments in the playoffs. That it's been a very
32:51
Speaker 1: very very long run of different generations. You know. You
32:56
Speaker 1: hear it all the time, like there will never be
32:58
Speaker 1: another Michael Jordan. Okay, maybe true, but there's been Kobe.
33:01
Speaker 1: There will never be another Kobe Bryant. It's like, well,
33:05
Speaker 1: Lebron James feels like one of the more famous. There
33:07
Speaker 1: will never be another Steph Curry, Like, I don't know,
33:09
Speaker 1: probably there will be. You know, we've seen different they look,
33:14
Speaker 1: they come in different shapes and sizes, but at one
33:17
Speaker 1: point of the magic and Larry and that's it. No,
33:19
Speaker 1: it's like people keep on coming, you know. And I
33:22
Speaker 1: say this all the time, like there will never be
33:24
Speaker 1: another Tiger Woods. Maybe not that like this dude's name Tiger,
33:32
Speaker 1: I mean just that by itself, but probably there will
33:34
Speaker 1: be something in that world we go. I don't know
33:37
Speaker 1: if I've ever seen this before, because it always freaking happens,
33:42
Speaker 1: and we've been very very fortunate because clearly the league,
33:46
Speaker 1: I don't care how many Miles Garrett's and Bjon Robinson's
33:49
Speaker 1: and Luke Keekley's and Ed Reids are on the field.
33:52
Speaker 1: If you have two awful quarterbacks starting against each other
33:57
Speaker 1: in games. It is hard to watch. Someone recently asked, like,
34:02
Speaker 1: what by over under I think on the Jets or
34:05
Speaker 1: the Titans? Was I'm like, bro, I haven't even thought
34:08
Speaker 1: about that team. They're like, who do you like in
34:12
Speaker 1: the Jets Titans Week one game? I one hundred percent
34:15
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about that game hasn't even crossed my mind,
34:19
Speaker 1: you know who has? I wonder what my home's gonna
34:20
Speaker 1: look like this year? Can Joe Burrow win thirteen games?
34:25
Speaker 1: Can Josh Allen win another MVP? Is Stafford gonna continue
34:28
Speaker 1: to play an MVP level? So? I mean the NFL
34:33
Speaker 1: is truly carried by some serious star power right now.
34:35
Speaker 1: And speaking of star power, Josh Allen was you know,
34:40
Speaker 1: it's been a pretty polarizing figure slash organization, the situation
34:45
Speaker 1: with Sean McDermott. There just hasn't been an organization who
34:49
Speaker 1: has been consistently as close and just had devastating losses, right,
34:54
Speaker 1: I mean, just absolutely devastating losses like they have had
34:59
Speaker 1: really through history of time. Right, you go back to
35:01
Speaker 1: the early nineties. I can't even imagine in the Internet
35:06
Speaker 1: era a team going to four straight Super Bowls and
35:08
Speaker 1: losing them all, some getting just curb stomped and others
35:13
Speaker 1: missing game winning field goals. That would be I wouldn't
35:18
Speaker 1: wish that upon my worst enemy, the team they root for.
35:20
Speaker 1: That to happen to, that would truly suck. I'd rather
35:24
Speaker 1: get knocked out in the first round the playoffs in
35:25
Speaker 1: a couple of those years, losing in the Super Bowl
35:28
Speaker 1: year after year after year. And you could argue the
35:31
Speaker 1: thirteen second losses one of the worst losses in the
35:34
Speaker 1: history league. It's probably crazier. You know, twenty eight to three.
35:42
Speaker 1: There wasn't a quarter and a half, you know, there
35:44
Speaker 1: was a lot of time. There were thirteen fucking seconds.
35:48
Speaker 1: And this was the old kickoff for you had to
35:49
Speaker 1: go a long way just to get in a field
35:51
Speaker 1: goal range. So Josh Allen essentially said, like I believe
35:56
Speaker 1: if we keep knocking on the door, the door will
35:59
Speaker 1: eventually open. I'm in complete agreement, and I think this
36:04
Speaker 1: carries over for anything in life. If you keep putting
36:08
Speaker 1: yourself in position, something will break. Right. If you just
36:12
Speaker 1: never put yourself in position for any opportunities, then it's
36:16
Speaker 1: hard to complain when you don't get any opportunities. Even
36:19
Speaker 1: though the opportunities when they arise, nothing is guaranteed. I
36:24
Speaker 1: was talking to a couple guys I was working with
36:26
Speaker 1: today at Fox. If I don't know how the old
36:28
Speaker 1: they were, they felt younger than me. I was asking
36:32
Speaker 1: their kind of origin story, and both of them kind
36:34
Speaker 1: of had a little bit different paths, but they just
36:37
Speaker 1: once started as like an executive assistant kind of got
36:39
Speaker 1: his foot in the door and this opportunity arose and
36:42
Speaker 1: he got in a talent agency. And it's just like
36:44
Speaker 1: you put yourself around enough people. I think I get
36:48
Speaker 1: asked for advice. And I said this a while back,
36:51
Speaker 1: Like one thing you should try to do is you
36:53
Speaker 1: get older, it's hard to meet like true new friends, right.
36:58
Speaker 1: I think as we get older, we get a lot
36:59
Speaker 1: of like acquaintances. Anytime you can meet someone you truly
37:03
Speaker 1: call a friend like that is a positive. But just professionally,
37:07
Speaker 1: the more people in more rooms you can put yourself around.
37:10
Speaker 1: However that is whether that's going to different conferences in
37:14
Speaker 1: your industry, whether that's going to places in whatever town
37:19
Speaker 1: you live in, especially if you live in a big
37:20
Speaker 1: city where those guys frequent. However, you have to do it,
37:25
Speaker 1: but put yourself in rooms with these people, and it's
37:30
Speaker 1: no different football, right John Elway went to five Super
37:35
Speaker 1: Bowls and for a long period of time just kept
37:41
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs, kept going to the playoffs. Some years,
37:43
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, they got knocked out the first playoff game
37:46
Speaker 1: they played. I vividly remember when Rex Ryan knocked him
37:49
Speaker 1: out early in the twenty tens. It's not like they
37:53
Speaker 1: didn't win every AFC championship game. Peyton Manning beat him
37:56
Speaker 1: multiple times. But part of the reason they went to
38:00
Speaker 1: nine Super Bowls, it's because every fucking year they were
38:03
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, every stinking one and honestly, most years
38:07
Speaker 1: they were the one or two seed, and back then
38:08
Speaker 1: it got you a bye. But if you just go
38:11
Speaker 1: to the playoffs every single year, and that's really what
38:14
Speaker 1: the Bills have done in Josh Allen's career, you would say,
38:19
Speaker 1: if you tell me right now that the Bills go
38:23
Speaker 1: to the playoffs for the next five years, I would
38:28
Speaker 1: put their likelihood of at least getting to another Super
38:31
Speaker 1: Bowl as extremely high. And if you tell me you're
38:35
Speaker 1: going to Super Bowl with Josh Allen as your quarterback,
38:37
Speaker 1: your chance to win it is pretty fucking good. So
38:40
Speaker 1: I it's hard to lose. It took Peyton Manning a
38:44
Speaker 1: long long time, and even in the game there's like, God,
38:47
Speaker 1: they're getting I think it was twenty four to seven
38:50
Speaker 1: or twenty four to three at half time against the
38:52
Speaker 1: Patriots in that AFC Championship game in India, and it
38:55
Speaker 1: was this six season. It was the you know, it's
38:58
Speaker 1: like the January of seven. But like you just give
39:01
Speaker 1: yourself enough byes of the apple, eventually something breaks your way.
39:04
Speaker 1: And that's where I wanted to end on this is
39:06
Speaker 1: before we do a couple of mailbag questions. Is Dan Lanning?
39:10
Speaker 1: I think I've heard versions of this story. He's been asked,
39:13
Speaker 1: but I wanted to play the audio because PFT comedy
39:18
Speaker 1: he asked Dan Lanning kind of about his origin story,
39:23
Speaker 1: his his breakthrough moment in his career in college football.
39:29
Speaker 1: And I just think it's a good thing for young
39:32
Speaker 1: people to hear because I was, I would say inspired
39:36
Speaker 1: listening to it.
39:37
Speaker 2: I am fascinated to hear about the first job that
39:40
Speaker 2: you got and how you did that drive across the country. Yeah,
39:44
Speaker 2: how long is it was it?
39:45
Speaker 3: You were you were going around thirteen hours.
39:46
Speaker 2: It's Todd Graham, right, at pitt Yeah, and so.
39:49
Speaker 3: I was a high school coach at park Hill South
39:52
Speaker 3: was kind of waiting for an opportunity, and I ended
39:53
Speaker 3: up meeting with Keith Patterson. When I first got the pit,
39:56
Speaker 3: nobody was there. I was waiting in a lobby and
39:58
Speaker 3: Eric Thatcher's the first guy that he's actually a scout
40:01
Speaker 3: now for the forty nine ers, and he said, hey,
40:03
Speaker 3: the coaches are gone. So I stayed the night, met
40:05
Speaker 3: with him. The next day. They said, hey, we got
40:06
Speaker 3: a job for you for eight hundred bucks a month.
40:09
Speaker 3: My wife was pregnant at the time, we had a
40:11
Speaker 3: one year old. Didn't tell him I had a house,
40:13
Speaker 3: had a job, so it you know, it didn't make
40:15
Speaker 3: a lot of sense, but it made a lot. It's
40:17
Speaker 3: made a lot of sense sense.
40:18
Speaker 2: So when you decided to get in the car and drive,
40:21
Speaker 2: you didn't know if coach was going to be It
40:22
Speaker 2: was unannounced.
40:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, So i'd gotten a call around Christmas saying, hey,
40:26
Speaker 3: we might have a job for you. Will call you
40:27
Speaker 3: after signing day. And I didn't get a phone call.
40:30
Speaker 3: And this is the closest I'd ever been to get
40:31
Speaker 3: in the Division one job.
40:33
Speaker 1: So I said, well, I guess I guess I gotta
40:34
Speaker 1: just drive there.
40:35
Speaker 2: I'm going to show up.
40:36
Speaker 3: So I went and did. I taught elementary pee, so
40:38
Speaker 3: I did elementary p that day, I did after school weights,
40:40
Speaker 3: and then I drove through the night and drank a
40:42
Speaker 3: lot of mountain dew and listened to some crazy music
40:45
Speaker 3: and changed into a suit in the gas station.
40:47
Speaker 1: I've been guilty of this. I'm sure a lot of
40:50
Speaker 1: people listening are guilty of this as well. For most
40:55
Speaker 1: of human history up until really the cell phone, which
41:01
Speaker 1: really got going right around like I would say, late nineties,
41:06
Speaker 1: early two thousands, especially early two thousands, where you could
41:09
Speaker 1: just put it in your pocket and stuff like that,
41:11
Speaker 1: and then as that was happening, the Internet was really
41:14
Speaker 1: starting to take off. But from about ninety eight and
41:19
Speaker 1: every year before, if you wanted something, you wanted to
41:24
Speaker 1: get something done, you wanted to meet someone, you wanted
41:26
Speaker 1: to talk to someone, you wanted to try to get
41:30
Speaker 1: a job, you had to show up. I guess you
41:32
Speaker 1: could send a letter, but most of the time you
41:36
Speaker 1: had to be physically present somewhere. And then throughout my
41:44
Speaker 1: time in life, you could send voicemails, You could send emails.
41:49
Speaker 1: We all do it. You could send LinkedIn or Twitter,
41:52
Speaker 1: Instagram direct messages. There are a million ways to contact
41:57
Speaker 1: people from just sitting at home help. You could try
42:01
Speaker 1: to get a job and contact a guy seven different
42:04
Speaker 1: ways and never have to get off your couch. When
42:07
Speaker 1: I think Dan Lanning told that story about driving thirteen
42:10
Speaker 1: hours through the middle of the night when they had
42:14
Speaker 1: no clue he was coming, and I do think it
42:17
Speaker 1: is way harder so a lot of young people that
42:19
Speaker 1: asked me for advice, Listen, all of our situations are different,
42:22
Speaker 1: all of our pasts are different, and all of our
42:24
Speaker 1: I would say, desires and wants tend to be a
42:26
Speaker 1: little different too. Professionally, even though I think you know
42:29
Speaker 1: a lot of people share a lot of different characteristics
42:31
Speaker 1: of what they Most of us have basic needs, right
42:34
Speaker 1: We want to be successful for a family, to take
42:37
Speaker 1: care of our family, to be a good role model
42:39
Speaker 1: to our children, want to be able to provide food
42:42
Speaker 1: and shelter, like most human beings have the same basic needs.
42:47
Speaker 1: But when you show up for a job that you want,
42:51
Speaker 1: or you want to get in touch with somebody when
42:54
Speaker 1: you were there physically in person, it is way harder
42:59
Speaker 1: for them to delete a voicemail to delete an email
43:04
Speaker 1: to not look at a direct message. I'm guilty of
43:07
Speaker 1: this too. I'm sure some people listening to this have
43:09
Speaker 1: sent me inquiries about coming on their podcast or whatever.
43:13
Speaker 1: If I haven't response, I'm a dick. Sometimes just get
43:18
Speaker 1: distracted doing something else, don't have time. Like we all
43:22
Speaker 1: fall under that category. But if you just wanted to
43:25
Speaker 1: come on my podcast, and again this is a bad example,
43:29
Speaker 1: but and you showed up in front of my face,
43:32
Speaker 1: it I can't really avoid you. And I think the
43:36
Speaker 1: day and age of people, and it's not just gen
43:40
Speaker 1: Z or whatever, it's everyone, because it is way easier
43:43
Speaker 1: to just send a text message or shoot an email.
43:46
Speaker 1: It's also the easiest thing to just bypass or delete.
43:51
Speaker 1: And I think Dan Lanning's story, of which I can't
43:54
Speaker 1: even imagine making eight hundred dollars a month, and I
43:58
Speaker 1: know this is fifteen plus years ago, but having a
44:01
Speaker 1: child another one on the way, and like you said,
44:04
Speaker 1: it worked out pretty well. But I just I admire
44:09
Speaker 1: the shit out of that guy for doing that, and
44:11
Speaker 1: I think it serves as a great lesson. You might
44:13
Speaker 1: not have to drive thirteen hours through the middle of
44:15
Speaker 1: the night, but if you're trying to get someone's business,
44:19
Speaker 1: or you're trying to get involved in someone's company. You're
44:21
Speaker 1: trying to work for a guy and you can't get
44:23
Speaker 1: him to call you back, if you can't get him
44:25
Speaker 1: to email you back, if you have the means, or hell,
44:29
Speaker 1: he's in your town or in your city. On the opposite,
44:32
Speaker 1: if it's a thirty minute drive and you're like, hey, no, no,
44:35
Speaker 1: I'll just shoot him in another text, show up. You'll
44:40
Speaker 1: be amazed at the power of what showing up will do.
44:45
Speaker 1: What's the old adage showing up as half the battle,
44:48
Speaker 1: I'd argue in a day and age of technology, it's
44:53
Speaker 1: like ninety percent of the battle of just gaining someone's attention, right,
44:58
Speaker 1: especially young people that they've never heard of, because it's
45:03
Speaker 1: very very easy to not respond to anything. I'm sure
45:06
Speaker 1: we've all had that. And listen, even if you show up,
45:09
Speaker 1: some people might just beect I'm not meeting with you.
45:12
Speaker 1: You're not guaranteed to hear anything. You are much more
45:16
Speaker 1: likely though, to gain some traction that way. So crazy story,
45:21
Speaker 1: great story. It's just very very admirable move by Dan
45:26
Speaker 1: Lanning and not shocking to see all his success since
45:30
Speaker 1: guy's a ball coach, and everyone keeps saying that this
45:33
Speaker 1: is the Oregon's best team in the history of the
45:36
Speaker 1: program roster wise. Right, They've been in my lifetime multiple
45:40
Speaker 1: national championships. They've lost them, but they've been there. So
45:44
Speaker 1: there's a big difference of having the historic amount of
45:47
Speaker 1: talent relative to the program and accomplishing the same thing
45:50
Speaker 1: on the field. So to me, the only way that
45:53
Speaker 1: this would be the best team in orient history they
45:55
Speaker 1: have to win the Natty. They have to win the Natty,
45:58
Speaker 1: and well, I think a lot of people are gonna
46:00
Speaker 1: pick him win the Natty. Landing is one guy that's
46:06
Speaker 1: kind of like Josh Allen. He's been knocking on the door.
46:08
Speaker 1: He's been knocking on the door. He's just got there.
46:09
Speaker 1: And a couple of years ago he got the crap
46:12
Speaker 1: kicked out of him by Hoho State. Last year he
46:13
Speaker 1: got the crap kicked out of him by Indiana. I
46:16
Speaker 1: would all say, at least you're losing to the two
46:18
Speaker 1: teams that won the National Championship back to back years.
46:20
Speaker 1: If you be one thing to lose to some random team
46:22
Speaker 1: who gets knocked out the next year. So I'm a
46:26
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning fan. Let's answer a couple of dms this year,
46:42
Speaker 1: there have been a ton of big trades Garrett, Micah Parsons,
46:47
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence, A J. Brown, Jaylen Water, Sauce Gardner, McDuffie, etc. Etc.
46:52
Speaker 1: Even mccrosby obviously that was rescinded. Has one calendar year
46:59
Speaker 1: in any sport ever had more huge trades. Is this
47:03
Speaker 1: representative of a larger trend of general managers taking bigger swings?
47:09
Speaker 1: Which big name move isn't being talked about enough? As
47:12
Speaker 1: a Bengals fan, Lawrence has me feeling more optimistic. That
47:17
Speaker 1: is a great question. I mean the amount, I mean
47:20
Speaker 1: all the guys you listed, Miles, Garrett, Hall of Famer,
47:23
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons was trending that way. I mean Dexter Lawrence,
47:27
Speaker 1: all pro level player, A J. Brown, All pro level player,
47:29
Speaker 1: Sas Gardner, all pro level player, Trent McDuffie, all pro
47:32
Speaker 1: level player, Max Crosby, All pro level player, DJ Moore,
47:36
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level guy. That's as a lot of firepower. Max.
47:43
Speaker 1: Now he's back on his old team, I think we'd
47:46
Speaker 1: all agree that if the Raiders, you know, like two
47:50
Speaker 1: and six, that I think he will be back on
47:51
Speaker 1: the trading block. I think it has to do with
47:54
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Is one the explode a revenue
48:00
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So historically, if I gave a guy
48:04
Speaker 1: a huge contract and he was still a good player,
48:09
Speaker 1: gate receipts, having star power, if my team sucked would
48:12
Speaker 1: still matter. I'd be less likely to trade that guy. Also,
48:16
Speaker 1: because I've already paid him a lot of money. I
48:18
Speaker 1: think owners they don't get caught up like twenty thirty
48:21
Speaker 1: forty million dollars signing bonuses mean little to nothing to anybody.
48:26
Speaker 1: I definitely think his representative of gms you when I
48:31
Speaker 1: first got hired in twenty ten, how he was an outlier,
48:35
Speaker 1: How he was wired no different then as he is
48:37
Speaker 1: now in terms of aggression, always trying to acquire players
48:42
Speaker 1: we weren't even allowed to say like camp bodies. He
48:44
Speaker 1: hated that, like you were always churning the roster. You
48:47
Speaker 1: only wanted to bring in guys who can compete. He
48:50
Speaker 1: was just he was much more wired like gems from
48:54
Speaker 1: other leagues back then, and clearly that is carried over.
48:56
Speaker 1: But now there are a bunch of guys like him.
48:58
Speaker 1: Let's need John Schneider. All these gms will wheel and deal,
49:03
Speaker 1: and I think it has to do with kind of
49:05
Speaker 1: a youth movement where fifteen twenty years ago a lot
49:08
Speaker 1: of GMS probably got into football. Seventies in the eighties
49:12
Speaker 1: is where they learned it was much more of a
49:13
Speaker 1: conservative sport in the sense of like trades weren't just
49:19
Speaker 1: consistently has made as much because I also think the
49:21
Speaker 1: financial ramifications of them, and now people value draft picks more.
49:27
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of factors, and I think
49:29
Speaker 1: they're all playing into part, but I think number one
49:32
Speaker 1: first and foremost is the explosion of money in the league,
49:37
Speaker 1: and right behind that is the GM's willingness to just
49:41
Speaker 1: always do trades because for them to pull off a trade,
49:44
Speaker 1: the owner has to agree. So even I'm sure Howie whoever,
49:49
Speaker 1: any GM throughout the league has had trades they wanted
49:52
Speaker 1: to make or been interested in that maybe their owner
49:54
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable with, which is great for the sport because
49:59
Speaker 1: forever football, the other you know, baseball and basketball had
50:05
Speaker 1: all the trades. Football didn't have. That mean, they had
50:07
Speaker 1: free agent signings, but they didn't have all these stars
50:12
Speaker 1: getting traded. It just it was very rare. A big
50:18
Speaker 1: trade was like you know, Brett Favre was traded right
50:22
Speaker 1: after his rookie year, Matt Schab, Matt hasselback guys like
50:26
Speaker 1: that kind of get trade, you know, backups that you
50:28
Speaker 1: think could be starters. Alex Smith got traded. Now, it's
50:34
Speaker 1: like you convinced me most guys in the NFL could
50:37
Speaker 1: be traded. It actually crossed my mind to day, if
50:40
Speaker 1: the Bengals have a disastrous season, could the Rams do
50:45
Speaker 1: some sort of package where it's like, let's say they
50:49
Speaker 1: don't sign Pooka Nakua. We traded Puka n Akua in
50:53
Speaker 1: like three years of drafts for Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase.
50:58
Speaker 1: When I was sitting there with Colin going on some rant,
51:00
Speaker 1: it kind of came over my head. I was like,
51:03
Speaker 1: it's my worst nightmare. But I definitely think they would.
51:08
Speaker 1: If you told me if the Rams wanted Burrow, I
51:11
Speaker 1: feel like they'd also try to acquire Jamar Chase. All
51:14
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like the Rams have traded seventy
51:17
Speaker 1: five draft picks multiple drafts, like the entire twenty twenty
51:23
Speaker 1: seven draft, the entire twenty twenty eight draft. Then I
51:25
Speaker 1: know after this year, right they gave Jared Verse, they
51:28
Speaker 1: give a first round of this upcoming year and then
51:31
Speaker 1: the following year, so they'd have to I don't know
51:34
Speaker 1: exactly how it would work, but you wouldn't put it
51:38
Speaker 1: past them. Been listening to you for over a decade
51:42
Speaker 1: now for the mailbag, you mentioned something or something or
51:46
Speaker 1: someone needs to fix college football. The porter's the I
51:50
Speaker 1: can't even talk. The portal seems like an easy fix,
51:53
Speaker 1: but it's probably too far gone at this point. What
51:57
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on creating stricter scheduling rules for games.
52:01
Speaker 1: If we're going to split up the P four and
52:04
Speaker 1: G six conferences, let's just draw a firm lind P
52:07
Speaker 1: four teams can only schedule one G six FCS team
52:12
Speaker 1: a year. They must pay a certain money amount to them,
52:16
Speaker 1: say two and a half million dollars, and that's their
52:19
Speaker 1: one cupcake game. Then conferences do like the NFL does
52:23
Speaker 1: and make competitively balanced conference schedules to create more parody.
52:27
Speaker 1: This way, schools like Texas Tech aren't skipping out on
52:31
Speaker 1: other top Big twelve schools, Perdue can play lower level
52:34
Speaker 1: Big ten schools, et cetera. I personally think if we
52:38
Speaker 1: get to the point where the power for they should
52:44
Speaker 1: be mandated to play each other. So everyone plays the
52:47
Speaker 1: same amount of conference games, and then your non conference
52:54
Speaker 1: are rotating. If I'm a Big ten team, I play
52:56
Speaker 1: the SEC, the ACC and the the Big twelve, and
53:03
Speaker 1: maybe we do some sort of rotation of strength of schedule,
53:06
Speaker 1: or there's just some lottery drawing for like a five
53:08
Speaker 1: year stretch that's totally random, however you want to do it, right.
53:12
Speaker 1: I I don't love looking and seeing Texas play Texas State,
53:19
Speaker 1: seeing even USC play San Jose a State, Like I
53:23
Speaker 1: think there should be different tiers in the NFL. Doesn't
53:26
Speaker 1: play the UFL. Right, If you're USC, you shouldn't be
53:31
Speaker 1: playing like Mountain West teams. You should be playing You
53:35
Speaker 1: don't have to play Alabama? But could you play like Vanderbilt?
53:39
Speaker 1: I guess Eric's a pretty good Could you play Kansas?
53:43
Speaker 1: Could you just play other Power four teams unless you
53:47
Speaker 1: mandate them doing that, they won't do that. So I
53:52
Speaker 1: don't have an easy fix, and there's no mandate coming
53:55
Speaker 1: at least in the next couple of years. But that
53:58
Speaker 1: to me is the number one fix because you look
54:01
Speaker 1: at Week one the college Football's back, and you look
54:04
Speaker 1: at the matchups, you're like, this is disgusting. Thank God
54:08
Speaker 1: for Clemson play LSU. Thank god for Old Miss playing Louisville.
54:13
Speaker 1: There is a lot of just teams. It's an embarrassment.
54:21
Speaker 1: It truly is mail bag. Are the Browns going forward
54:27
Speaker 1: with this mediocre quarterback, whether it's Watson or Sanders to
54:31
Speaker 1: plan for next year's draft? Do you think they decided
54:34
Speaker 1: on Munkin as the coach because of his experience in
54:36
Speaker 1: college to help the quarterback evaluation process. This reminds me
54:40
Speaker 1: of the Browns sixteen and seventeen when they literally put
54:43
Speaker 1: the worst players on the field to accumulate higher draft picks.
54:46
Speaker 1: Those teams were horrendous, didn't they did? They go on sixteen?
54:50
Speaker 1: I can't even remember now, you know, Hugh Jackson did
54:52
Speaker 1: not win many games. It was bad that. I mean
54:57
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen seventeen Cleveland Browns football feels like fifty years ago.
55:01
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, that feels like a long time ago.
55:05
Speaker 1: I remember it was really really ugly, Freddy Kitchens fun times.
55:12
Speaker 1: I just don't think they have another choice, you know.
55:15
Speaker 1: I mean they drafted shador a year ago, who was
55:18
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick, but he's really more like, you know,
55:21
Speaker 1: a top one hundred pick. He's really more like someone
55:23
Speaker 1: you'd get in the second or the third round. And
55:26
Speaker 1: they're paying to Sean Watson fifty million dollars. So their
55:29
Speaker 1: team actually is not that bad like them in the Jets,
55:33
Speaker 1: probably not gonna win that many games, but both of
55:36
Speaker 1: them have a ton of players that every team that's
55:38
Speaker 1: in the playoffs would line up to acquire. So I
55:41
Speaker 1: just think they're just kind of in this weird spot
55:43
Speaker 1: quarterback wise. And I think Monkny it was a tough job,
55:49
Speaker 1: you know. I think a lot of people yank their
55:51
Speaker 1: name out of the hat. They had a weird process
55:54
Speaker 1: in terms of some of the cognitive testing they were given. Guys.
55:57
Speaker 1: I think it made people uncomfortable, like what are we
55:59
Speaker 1: doing here? And I think Munkin didn't care, like this
56:05
Speaker 1: was his only shot at becoming a head coach. He
56:07
Speaker 1: didn't give a shit. No different Jim Schwartz like he
56:09
Speaker 1: felt this was like his only shot to become the
56:11
Speaker 1: head coach. He thought he could become the head coach.
56:14
Speaker 1: And that kind of felt like their final group, those
56:17
Speaker 1: two guys. Do you think Vitavea will get traded or
56:20
Speaker 1: do you think Tampa will sign him to a new
56:22
Speaker 1: contract if they do trade him? Would Seattle be a
56:25
Speaker 1: potential landing spot since they are projected to have the
56:27
Speaker 1: most draft picks in twenty seven and Schneider loves mid
56:30
Speaker 1: season trades. Well, I think they're looking at it like this.
56:36
Speaker 1: If Vitavea were to become a free agent, I think
56:39
Speaker 1: he would get multiple years at you know, free agent market.
56:43
Speaker 1: Let's say you get two years, three years, sixty seventy
56:47
Speaker 1: million dollars. So they would in return get a third
56:50
Speaker 1: round comp pick. So they know vita Vea on the
56:53
Speaker 1: open market gets them a third round pick. Well, you'd
56:56
Speaker 1: rather just have Vitavea for the year, let him walk
57:00
Speaker 1: and then get the comp pick. So if I'm going
57:02
Speaker 1: to trade him, I probably need like a second and
57:06
Speaker 1: a fourth. Perfect world, probably like a second and a third.
57:10
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get a first round pick. I don't
57:12
Speaker 1: think for a thirty two year old guy that needs
57:15
Speaker 1: a new contract. Right, you just gave the tenth pick
57:18
Speaker 1: for Dexter Lawrence, who's several years younger, and you just
57:22
Speaker 1: had to give one year on an extension who's already
57:24
Speaker 1: under contract. So I think it all factors in. I
57:29
Speaker 1: think in a perfect world, Jason light would just keep
57:31
Speaker 1: it and play it out and have him played on
57:32
Speaker 1: the seventeen million dollars and probably that'll walk at the
57:36
Speaker 1: end of the season. But if it's clear, like someone
57:40
Speaker 1: makes an offer that's this is better than the comp
57:43
Speaker 1: pick we're gonna get, I think they would entertain it.
57:46
Speaker 1: So I don't think anyone's desperate here on August fourth.
57:51
Speaker 1: I could definitely see him getting traded in season, because
57:54
Speaker 1: even if he holds in the entire training camp, he
57:59
Speaker 1: may million dollars a game. So he's gotta hold out
58:03
Speaker 1: a million dollars a game. No one would hold out
58:06
Speaker 1: at that clip. Never been done, never will get done.
58:10
Speaker 1: Uh would be curious your thoughts on this topic periodically.
58:15
Speaker 1: Quote could the best team beat the worst NFL team?
58:19
Speaker 1: Comes up. For my entire adult life, I have rolled
58:22
Speaker 1: my eyes and said, no chance. Half of the college
58:25
Speaker 1: starters won't get drafted, half of them won't start in
58:28
Speaker 1: the NFL. The other team is twenty two starters. However,
58:33
Speaker 1: in our new data driven world, I decided to nerd
58:35
Speaker 1: out a little bit. I looked at the two time
58:38
Speaker 1: national champion LSU Tigers of twenty nineteen. They won two
58:45
Speaker 1: is the national champion LSU Tigers twenty nineteen versus the
58:48
Speaker 1: two and four Cincinnati Bengals seven years earlier. I looked
58:52
Speaker 1: at draft position years in a league, number of stars,
58:54
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, in all pros. Based on the data, it
58:58
Speaker 1: might be closer than I initially thought. The Bengals would
59:01
Speaker 1: obviously have the edge and physical maturity and experience, but
59:05
Speaker 1: the Tigers have them in star power. Could Dre Fitzpatrick
59:09
Speaker 1: shut down Jefferson or Chase How would the Tigers align
59:13
Speaker 1: be able to deal with Carlos Dunlap and Geno Atkins?
59:17
Speaker 1: Interesting to ponder. What would you say? I think, like
59:21
Speaker 1: Geno Atkins and Carlos Dunlop against the college offensive line
59:25
Speaker 1: would be a major major brown that they would have
59:28
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on Joe Burrow. Now, like those
59:31
Speaker 1: two guys specifically, I think the Bengals would struggle to neutralize.
59:36
Speaker 1: You know, it's been proven. I mean, those guys are
59:39
Speaker 1: two of the most talented players I've seen in my
59:42
Speaker 1: adult life. It's pretty great. I mean, the quarterback duo
59:46
Speaker 1: with those two guys, no wonder they'd beat the shit
59:48
Speaker 1: out of everybody. I don't know who the best college
59:52
Speaker 1: team is of the last twenty five thirty years. I
59:56
Speaker 1: do think there would be specific teams that could get
1:00:00
Speaker 1: whoever the worst NFL team is of all time, whoever
1:00:03
Speaker 1: the worst NFL team is of all time. You would
1:00:06
Speaker 1: also want to play them like ten games into the
1:00:09
Speaker 1: season because some of their geno Atkins Carlos Dunlap might
1:00:12
Speaker 1: not be playing it, might be injured, might be out
1:00:14
Speaker 1: of lineup, so they would have they were already bad
1:00:17
Speaker 1: to begin with, and then the attrition of a year.
1:00:20
Speaker 1: By the time you got to December, you would have
1:00:23
Speaker 1: fringe NFL players all over the roster. So like week
1:00:27
Speaker 1: one version, it would be very difficult. And there's also
1:00:31
Speaker 1: like the version of Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson at
1:00:35
Speaker 1: twenty years old, physically is a different animal at twenty
1:00:39
Speaker 1: six twenty seven years old. So there is just a
1:00:42
Speaker 1: natural like physicality to a human being that changes as
1:00:48
Speaker 1: you're in the NFL, even if they still kind of
1:00:51
Speaker 1: look like the same in the face or whatever, they're
1:00:53
Speaker 1: dramatically younger. It would be difficult, but there have been
1:00:57
Speaker 1: some awful NFL teams. If NFL players are allowed in
1:01:02
Speaker 1: the Olympics for flag football, what current NFL player would
1:01:05
Speaker 1: be the ultimate flag football cheat code? I just saw
1:01:10
Speaker 1: highlights that day that they did the flag football and
1:01:13
Speaker 1: we got killed. It clearly is not an apples to
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Speaker 1: apples comparison. You can't just show up and dominate these
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Speaker 1: guys who like understand the game, which is dramatically different
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Speaker 1: than tackle football. So I'm no longer as comfortable as
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Speaker 1: just like oh, Tyreek Hill in his prime, Barry Sanders
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Speaker 1: in his prime. Like in theory, those guys would run
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Speaker 1: circles around everybody. But maybe it doesn't just work like that.
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Speaker 1: So I'll be the first to admit, like, I'm not
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Speaker 1: as confident that this is as easy as I thought.
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Speaker 1: You missed the key part in answering my question yesterday,
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Speaker 1: who will be the next quarterback to receive a contract
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Speaker 1: that their team regrets? Rats and he had brought up
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Speaker 1: c J. Stroud, Jalen Hurts, Baker Mayfield. I don't think CJ. Stroud.
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Speaker 1: I think he's a year away from even entertaining a
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Speaker 1: contract extension, and that would be a year where he'd
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Speaker 1: have to play really well. I saw the Panthers contract
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Speaker 1: negotiation negotiator talked about Bryce Young. To me, he's got
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Speaker 1: two years under contract, Like, I can't give Bryce Young
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Speaker 1: a contract. I could give contracts to certain individuals if
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Speaker 1: I felt like they could be a top fifteen quarterback.
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Speaker 1: If I could sign the Donald Mayfield contract, will you
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Speaker 1: take three years, one hundred and ten million dollars at
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Speaker 1: like fifty or sixty guaranteed? Like, if you will do
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Speaker 1: those type deals, then I would do the contract basically
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Speaker 1: bijon with an extra year. But those contracts have seemed
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Speaker 1: and proven to be extremely extremely rare. So I actually
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Speaker 1: think we're in kind of an I have a theory.
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Speaker 1: I think the Tua Kyler Murray kind of era really
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Speaker 1: rattled the NFL, and I think that was basically a
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Speaker 1: trial ground for like, if you have question marks and
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Speaker 1: you are going to pay a guy a premium, you
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Speaker 1: will lose your job. It will be a devastating financial
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Speaker 1: decision for your franchise. And I do wonder look at
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins coming off the Achilles who got two years
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Speaker 1: ninety million dollars, everyone in Atlanta got fired. So if
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Speaker 1: you're gonna pay premiums at forty forty five with which
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Speaker 1: in a couple of years will be the equivalent of
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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty five, whether it's two years, three years,
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Speaker 1: or five years. You better be damn fucking sure. If
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones this year does not play well and the
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Speaker 1: Colts go like seven to ten, everyone's getting fired. There.
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is rich, Two is rich, Kyler's rich, Kirk
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Speaker 1: Cousins is rich. Those guys have gotten a lot of
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Speaker 1: people fired, you know, they just have. Now. You could
1:04:00
Speaker 1: argue like, yeah, you shouldn't have signed that contract. We
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Speaker 1: all saw it's coming, and that's that's fair. But they did.
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Speaker 1: And if those guys then had just played a little
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Speaker 1: bit better, then guys probably would have not gotten fired.
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Speaker 1: So I think we're at the point now unless you
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Speaker 1: are the upper tier of the second group. You know,
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Speaker 1: Baker's pretty fascinating. It's like, Okay, Baker, you're gonna play
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Speaker 1: this out. Let's say you have a good year. And
1:04:26
Speaker 1: Jason Light's like, man, I'll give you three years, one
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Speaker 1: hundred and forty million dollars forty a year, and he's like,
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Speaker 1: I can get more from the Jets. Okay, go play
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Speaker 1: for the Jets. Godspeed, buddy, you can be richer. It's
1:04:41
Speaker 1: not gonna go well, Like, you got it pretty good.
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Speaker 1: You got Jason Light, who's proven to build teams, who drafts. Well,
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Speaker 1: you may be in a little lull right now as
1:04:50
Speaker 1: you kind of reset the roster, but like you got
1:04:52
Speaker 1: a pretty you're in a pretty good football spot. And
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Speaker 1: I think we're kind of transitioning of like it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be the haves and the have nots. It's like what
1:05:01
Speaker 1: everyone keeps telling me about AI, it'll all consolidate, there'll
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Speaker 1: be two or three, you know, operations that everyone will
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Speaker 1: go do. That's probably true. I think that's kind of quarterbacks, Like,
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Speaker 1: I don't think you just think, you know, we just
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Speaker 1: I don't think we can do better in CJ. Stroud.
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Speaker 1: Here's two hundred million dollars, Like, I don't think that's happening.
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Speaker 1: You know, Bryce Young's probably as good as we're gonna do.
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Speaker 1: Here's two hundred and twenty million dollars. Like, No, those days.
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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm being naive, but at least for the near future,
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Speaker 1: feel highly unlikely. Audios. The volume