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- 0:17Welcome to another edition of the Arancho Radio podcast and
- 0:20thank you David Dinger for providing such great
- 0:23introductory music. And we have a lot to cover on
- 0:28this edition of the Uranchi Radio Podcast.
- 0:30I assure you we are going to cover some very interesting
- 0:34subject matter. Also, we'll answer a few very
- 0:39good emails and talk about an essay that I read recently by
- 0:43Chuck Thurston, who is involved over there at I think it's
- 0:48Uranchi University or the Uranchia.
- 0:51They do a lot of videos with Derek.
- 0:54Is it Samaras? And he wrote a incredible essay
- 0:59that someone sent to me in response to a podcast I had done
- 1:03recently on the Lucifer rebellion.
- 1:06And I want to thank that person for sending the e-mail.
- 1:08But the I'm I'm probably going to try to post the Chuck
- 1:13Thurston essay because it delves into a lot of things that are
- 1:18that are just. And I and I want to actually try
- 1:19to get him on too. To go into it because it covers
- 1:23a lot of what's going on today in the world and the way the
- 1:27ideological struggle between good and evil and and
- 1:31materialism and spirituality and it's just it's just chock full
- 1:35of good information. And I don't want to, I don't
- 1:38want to. I want to give it its due.
- 1:41So hopefully we'll get Chuck on in the next couple weeks.
- 1:43We hope so and we'll talk about his essay, but I will refer to
- 1:48it a little bit in this. Particular subject of this
- 1:53podcast, we're going to be talking about the Supreme Being
- 1:56and its relationship to the individual.
- 1:59So we'll get that. Also we have some, like I said,
- 2:02a good e-mail question we can kind of dive into.
- 2:06And I also want to share with you that another e-mail that I
- 2:11got from someone and I want to share with you some some works
- 2:14that were produced a few years ago by a gentleman in Northern
- 2:19California. That I that I think you'll
- 2:21really enjoy hearing about. So we'll cover all of that talk
- 2:24about the Supreme Being and we'll pay a few bills. 1st and
- 2:28welcome to the Arancha Radio Podcast.
- 2:32Okay. Welcome back to the Arancha
- 2:33Radio Podcast. My name is Jim Watkins and I've
- 2:37been a lifelong reader. I've now read the book more.
- 2:42I picked it up when I was 19 or 20 and I've been on this earth
- 2:48for. 60 years. So I've actually been on the
- 2:51earth with the knowledge of the Arantia book more than not being
- 2:57aware of the Arantia book which was the 1st 20 years of my life.
- 3:02So for 40 years I've known about the revelation in my 60 year
- 3:06life and I'm really happy about that.
- 3:09Really I am. I got a great e-mail from
- 3:11someone who listens to the podcast and the question was why
- 3:16is it so hard to get people? Interested in the Rancho Book
- 3:20Now drawing from my own experiences, which I
- 3:23coincidentally included in the opening of my new, as of yet
- 3:26unfinished book, A New Perspective.
- 3:28How the Rancho book will facilitate a spiritual
- 3:31renaissance. It goes into my early expense
- 3:35early, early experiences when I tried to share the book with
- 3:38certain family and friends when I first started reading the
- 3:41Rancho Book, and I think I got a lot of people interested over
- 3:46the years. But many people, you know, I
- 3:50would loan the book out to people.
- 3:53And a lot of people that I thought would be receptive to it
- 3:56just gave the book back. And they were always nice about
- 3:59it. But then they always kind of
- 4:01acted differently. Many of them acted differently
- 4:04and never really wanted to talk about it.
- 4:06I had one friend who told me that they thought the book was
- 4:09absolutely fascinating, but he felt like and he actually told
- 4:14me, he says, how do I know this book is true?
- 4:17How can I invest my time in something if I don't know it's
- 4:21true? So it does take a commitment.
- 4:25Even the revelators were astonished.
- 4:27I am told in the early days when the reception of the original
- 4:30forum they they would say things like do you people realize what
- 4:35you have in your possession? And you will find that mentioned
- 4:40in the early testimony from Bill Sadler and some of the readers
- 4:44back in the 40s. You know, I I knew a woman.
- 4:47I was introduced to a woman back in the 90s, I think mid 90s.
- 4:53My mom lived in Phoenix and I went to visit her and of course
- 4:56she knew how much I enjoyed the Arantia book.
- 4:59And my mom actually was a big supporter.
- 5:01She read the Arantia book and and really thought it was the
- 5:05most important book she'd ever read anyway.
- 5:09She knew this woman. They had met.
- 5:12And she was always bragging about her son.
- 5:14So it came up about the Arantia book.
- 5:16And so I was introduced to my mom's friend who I am sorry, I
- 5:19don't have her name, but she was in her 80s or 90s and she said
- 5:24and she was part of the early forum.
- 5:28Her boyfriend was in the forum. So she would go to these
- 5:30meetings at Diversey there in Chicago.
- 5:34And initially she would just go to be with her boyfriend.
- 5:38And she remarked to me, she goes he was really into this book,
- 5:41but. Really, I was more interested in
- 5:43him, and I didn't get into the book until much later.
- 5:47So you've got that story. And then on the other hand, you
- 5:51know, I passed the the book, the Rancho book on to several
- 5:53friends who absolutely love the book, and it changed their life
- 5:57almost right away. So I think my experience is that
- 6:01it depends on two important things.
- 6:04One is how hungry a person might be for the truth and where they
- 6:09might be in their life. At the time that you hand them
- 6:12the book. Now, if you run into a person
- 6:15who is at a point of their life where they're sincerely looking
- 6:17for real answers, that's when I think the Urancho book has the
- 6:22most appeal. So if you give it to someone and
- 6:26they're not necessarily looking for it, you might just be
- 6:29wasting your time. So that's my my answer to that
- 6:34e-mail, but I will tell you that that e-mail led to me going
- 6:38through some of my boxes. And I found a book that I bought
- 6:41a few years ago. I don't remember where I saw it,
- 6:44but it was by David Bradley, and it's White Egret Publications,
- 6:50and he lives in Northern California.
- 6:53And the book is called An Introduction to the Urancho
- 6:55Revelation. And I bought a copy.
- 6:58It was like 15 bucks. I think you could still get them
- 7:01online. Although I did call David and I
- 7:04said, are you still publishing the book?
- 7:05And he said, well, I took it off of Amazon.
- 7:08Because they kept charging me too much.
- 7:10So I'm going to give you a phone number and if you are a big time
- 7:15your Rancho book reader or a long time your Rancho book
- 7:18reader and you maybe want to have a reference book, something
- 7:23that you could give to somebody that sort of gives a simplistic
- 7:27overview of what the Rancho book is all about.
- 7:30It's got some interesting cool fold out maps that sort of give
- 7:34you a perspective of. Of the universe, you know based
- 7:38on the Urancho book narrative. So again the book is called An
- 7:41Introduction to the Urancho Revelation and the the author is
- 7:46David Bradley wrote it on his own and he self publishes and he
- 7:50told me he's got a couple of boxes that are just sitting
- 7:53there waiting to be purchased. Got about 150 copies.
- 7:56So let me give you his number. It's seven O 78222577.
- 8:05To get that, it's seven O 78222577.
- 8:10Now I know this is going to blow a lot of people away, but you
- 8:13may just have to write a check and send it to him and he'll
- 8:16send you the book. I know, right?
- 8:20We all want to download it, have it on her smartphone.
- 8:25But it's a really nice book and it's worth whatever he charges.
- 8:281520 bucks 7 O 78222577. And his name again is David
- 8:36Bradley. And the name of the book is
- 8:37called An Introduction to the Urantia Revelation.
- 8:40And I'm just doing this. I have no dog in this race.
- 8:43I don't get anything out of it. But I could just tell that David
- 8:47put a lot of heart and soul. We anybody who's tried to write
- 8:51a book about the Urantia book knows that it's not an easy
- 8:54proposition. So reach out to David, 7 O
- 8:5778222577, and tell him Jim told you.
- 9:02All right. So this week 1 notable we have
- 9:05surpassed over 100,000 downloads since we started this podcast
- 9:10back in August of 20. I think it was 2019.
- 9:15So I just want to say thank you to all the folks who've honored
- 9:18me with your time. You know what we're about here
- 9:21on the Ranch Radio podcast is sharing the good news.
- 9:25So our topic this week, how do we understand the concept of the
- 9:28Supreme being? So what does the Supreme Being
- 9:32mean to us as individuals? What does it mean?
- 9:37You know, my dad, he was not a believer in a personal God, but
- 9:42he was a believer in the Supreme being, kind of the concept of
- 9:46the universal mind. And some people find it easier
- 9:50to believe in a supreme Being really, rather than a personal,
- 9:54approachable God, someone that they.
- 9:59Can actually enter entertain prayer with and meditation with?
- 10:03For some people it's not that easy because God is such a huge
- 10:06concept, but they do understand the concept of a sort of an
- 10:10overriding force. So the supreme being to a lot of
- 10:16people is like a force, a force of good or something that just
- 10:20sort of is omnipresent. And This is why I think maybe
- 10:24it's easier for people to believe in angels, which is on
- 10:26a. Much more connective level.
- 10:30And of course Jesus. People really connect with Jesus
- 10:34because he had such a personal appeal.
- 10:38You know, he was one of us, and he brought us a great revelation
- 10:41about a personal deity, our Father in Heaven.
- 10:45That was a new concept that Jesus brought forth, the idea,
- 10:49this idea that you could have a personal relationship with the
- 10:53creator of the universe, that was unfathomable.
- 10:58But the Supreme, the Supreme Being is something a little
- 11:02different and it takes the concept of God to a whole
- 11:05different level. And it and I think it deserves
- 11:09some examination because well, for one thing it illustrates the
- 11:12challenges we face as human beings right now in this
- 11:17struggle when it comes to good and evil and choices we make in
- 11:21our life and the big struggle today that.
- 11:24Is challenging us to make important spiritual positions.
- 11:29So I want to read a little bit, just a couple of paragraphs that
- 11:32talks about the Supreme Being. But before we get to the meat of
- 11:36that, that subject. This is an excerpt from Paper
- 11:3912, Section 7, and you may have read it.
- 11:42It's called the Part and the Whole.
- 11:44So it reads There is operative throughout all time and space
- 11:49and with regard to all reality of whatever nature.
- 11:52Is an exorable and a personal law which is equivalent to the
- 11:56function of a cosmic Providence. Mercy characterizes God's
- 12:02attitude of love for the individual.
- 12:05Impartiality motivates God's attitude toward the total.
- 12:10The will of God does not necessarily prevail in the part
- 12:14the heart of any one personality, but His will does
- 12:18actually rule the whole. The universe of universes.
- 12:24God the Supreme, the actualizing or evolving God of time and
- 12:29space. Personal deity associatively
- 12:34realizing the time, space, experiential achievement of
- 12:39creature creator identity. The Supreme Being is personally
- 12:46experiencing the achievement of deity unity.
- 12:51As the evolving and experiential God of the evolutionary
- 12:56creatures of time and space, that sounds like a very deep
- 13:01concept, but it basically means that God is experiencing life
- 13:08through His created beings. He's evolving by using our
- 13:14experiences to add to His existential supremacy.
- 13:21From paper 7 or Section 7, in the foreword it reads the
- 13:26Father, Son, and Spirit are existential without beginning,
- 13:31without ending existential. In actuality, though, all
- 13:36potentials are supposedly experiential.
- 13:38See, there's a difference between existential, which
- 13:41essentially means you're always perfect and always will be
- 13:45perfect and always has been perfect.
- 13:49But believe it or not, there's some limitations in that.
- 13:52Because what do you lack? You lack actual experience.
- 13:57So if you lack actual experience and you're existentially
- 14:01perfect, well, are you? Are you perfect in all manner?
- 14:06Are you exhaustively perfect without the experience?
- 14:12The Supreme and the Ultimate are wholly experiential, so that
- 14:16means God of the future. There's still potential for
- 14:22growth. The essence of deity is eternal,
- 14:25but only the three original persons of Deity, which is God
- 14:29the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit are unqualifiedly
- 14:33eternal. The next paragraph reads.
- 14:37Having achieved existential deity expression of himself in
- 14:41the Son and the Spirit, the Father is now achieving
- 14:45experiential expression. On hitherto impersonal and
- 14:49unrevealed deity levels as God the Supreme.
- 14:53But these experiential deities are not now fully existent, They
- 14:58are in the process of actualization.
- 15:02So that means that God the Supreme is an evolving deity.
- 15:07So think of an embryo inside of a body.
- 15:12Well that body is the present universe.
- 15:15But it's producing another level of deity on the experiential
- 15:19level. And how does it get there?
- 15:22How does it achieve this? Through the creation of
- 15:26individuals like ourselves, who all play a role.
- 15:30So here's where it reads the supreme being now actualizing in
- 15:35the evolutionary universes is the deity, correlator and
- 15:39synthesizer of time, space divinity.
- 15:43When finally actualized, the evolutionary deity will
- 15:47constitute the eternal fusion of the finite and the infinite, the
- 15:54everlasting insoluble union of experiential power and spirit
- 16:01personality. So that is what this embryonic
- 16:05supreme being represents. Experience and existential
- 16:09perfection now. You're asking yourself at this
- 16:15point, okay, well, what do I have to do with this?
- 16:17What is my relationship with the Supreme?
- 16:20So here's where I say God gives us a fragment of His spirit.
- 16:25Remember how in those, those those old audio tapes of Bill
- 16:29Sadler when he when he talks about the patches of God and how
- 16:34each fragment is identical and potential divinity.
- 16:38And this fragment is the thought adjuster who has nothing but
- 16:42time to get to know you. And share your life with you,
- 16:45the Father fragment that lives with you throughout your entire
- 16:49life, if you're a moral being. And that's what we have in
- 16:54ourselves, all human beings. We have thought adjusters, We
- 16:57have spirit fragments, the spirit, the lamp of of God, and
- 17:01it spiritizes our living experience.
- 17:05We can choose to be a part of the growth of the Supreme by
- 17:09participating and choosing God's will in our lives today.
- 17:14Which can be seen as moving forward with with the movement
- 17:17of God towards the evolution of the Supreme.
- 17:22In a way, the Supreme Being is in an embryonic form.
- 17:27Think of a body again. The central universe, the
- 17:29heartbeat, the heartbeat of the Trinity.
- 17:32Isn't it amazing? Think about your heart.
- 17:34Think about it just beats every day.
- 17:37It continues to beat every day. It's the you can't live without
- 17:41it. Just like.
- 17:43The Father and the Trinity can't live without Havona.
- 17:46Havona is a perfect universe, 1 billion perfected spheres that
- 17:51all came into existence at the time that the Trinity was
- 17:55complete and that reflects the spiritual and physical power of
- 18:00the Trinity. Havona.
- 18:02But they weren't done. But Can you imagine how much
- 18:06power? Think about the fact that we
- 18:08have in the current age 70 trillion sons.
- 18:13That are burning out in space and that represents the physical
- 18:17power, power of the first source and center.
- 18:21The same first source and center that is a personal and loving
- 18:25deity. Now the Supreme comprises all of
- 18:31God's current creation of spirit ascenders, eventually born,
- 18:36actualizing, and coming into existence as a result of the
- 18:39exhausted achievement of all of us.
- 18:43All of us ascended beings who choose to participate or we
- 18:48don't. If we reject the plan of eternal
- 18:52survival and participation, then the only thing we'll possess
- 18:56which is our personality, which confuse with the spirit fragment
- 19:01of God. It makes it possible for us to
- 19:04survive mortal death, survive salvation from materialism.
- 19:09But we're free to choose that or or we're free to reject it.
- 19:14Now. If we don't choose that plan and
- 19:17we don't become team players, as they say, well, God still takes
- 19:22the spirit fragment which has our memories.
- 19:25The thought adjuster is eternal. The thought adjuster goes back
- 19:28to God. And if we choose to our attach
- 19:32ourselves to that spirit fragment, then we're along for
- 19:36the ride. God doesn't waste a single
- 19:40valuable spiritual experience. It is part of the building block
- 19:46and the growth of the Supreme Being.
- 19:49Imagine if we're living cells and we are part of a growing
- 19:52collection of other living cells, other ascendant beings,
- 19:57all part of this embryonic formation of what eventually
- 20:03eventuate as a Supreme, and it is at this stage, the next.
- 20:08The universe age begins. Imagine that once the age of
- 20:14Light and Life is lived out on all the world of the current
- 20:17creation and the supreme Being emerges out of all of this, just
- 20:24as the appearance of Havana occurred.
- 20:26And the seven universes, the seven super universes of which
- 20:30we are a part, occurred at the time of the completion of the
- 20:33Trinity. And by the way, it gets really
- 20:36exciting because in the next. Universe Age we, having achieved
- 20:41the embrace of the Father, having achieved the limits of
- 20:44finality, are now mustered into the core of personalities who
- 20:49become ministers and teachers in the next Universe Age.
- 20:54Just as we have teachers and administrators of this current
- 20:57age, the Melchezidics, Gabriel, the Land and and X the Material
- 21:02Sons, and all of the spirit personalities who serve in this
- 21:07age. And bringing about the
- 21:08culmination of this age, leading to the next.
- 21:14But what if you decide to reject the plan?
- 21:16What if in this life, you become a habitual denier of the offer
- 21:22of spirit salvation? It means you're actually
- 21:26becoming less real, less meaningful.
- 21:29You know Lucifer will eventually experience personality
- 21:33annihilation. Not from adjudication as we
- 21:36might see it in our earthly courts where someone sentenced
- 21:38to death, but from the total and complete rejection of the
- 21:43efforts of the Supreme to be born.
- 21:47Lucifer is working against that plan through his unbridled
- 21:52Liberty Proclamation. It's kind of like what happens
- 21:56when a cell goes rogue of a living cell in your body.
- 22:00What happens when living cells die?
- 22:03They are flushed out. They're eliminated.
- 22:05They're not part of the growth of the Supreme.
- 22:08They've got their own ideas, you know, and it's most simplistic
- 22:13terms. God needs team players on this
- 22:16one. Everything in the universe moves
- 22:19with the current of the existential Father, seeking to
- 22:23emerge as an experiential deity, which can only be achieved if we
- 22:30all are participants in this grand plan.
- 22:34And if you don't, if you are a personality that says no, I want
- 22:38to have it my way. I want to do things on my own.
- 22:41Screw the plan. I have my own plan.
- 22:45Except that you don't. You see, you don't get your own
- 22:48plan. You don't even get your own
- 22:50planet. You actually possess only one
- 22:53thing that makes it possible for you to escape from the dead end
- 22:57of materialism. And it has to do with your
- 23:01contribution to spiritual value, the evolving of the Supreme.
- 23:06Lucifer's not going to get his own system to play with.
- 23:11Callagastie, who roams on our world and is a follower of the
- 23:15Lucifer doctrine, doesn't get to keep this planet all to himself.
- 23:18He may be here to flesh out some of his supporters, but he
- 23:24continually rejects salvation by denying the existence of the
- 23:28reality of the Supreme. He becomes less real, just as we
- 23:33each become less real when we deny survival or reject the idea
- 23:39of spiritual ascension because we're too arrogant or we have
- 23:44too much hubris, too much pride of self.
- 23:49Long time your ranch book student Chuck Thurston wrote a
- 23:54wonderful essay I will post on your ranchoradio.net.
- 23:59Trying to get his permission. I'm trying to actually try to
- 24:01get him on the show, and he talks about the current age and
- 24:04why there's so much evil. He explains that the most highs
- 24:08are in the process of vetting those who are sympathetic to the
- 24:12Lucifer doctrine of self liberty.
- 24:14I hadn't really thought about that, but I think there's truth
- 24:16to that. There's a doctrine that works
- 24:20against the Supreme, and it's in play now.
- 24:25But strong families, intelligent petitions to the Father, seeking
- 24:30for spiritual guidance, moral wisdom, service of others,
- 24:36developing a spiritual relationship with the first
- 24:38source and center those who work toward the Supreme are joining
- 24:43forces with God, not deciding that we have a better plan to do
- 24:47something else, the social embrace of pride.
- 24:52The self assertion of liberty without license cannot last, but
- 24:57it does provide the Most High as a way to filter out those who
- 25:01may not make it to the next step.
- 25:04You know, if you think about it, death is a great filter of the
- 25:08spiritually insolvent. This is why faith is such an
- 25:11important aspect of human personality.
- 25:15Without that faith, you need that faith.
- 25:17It's it's like a passport, really.
- 25:21And it is because God wants only the committed that we must
- 25:24endure the mistakes of our brothers and sisters who reject
- 25:27this plan and try to be their own gods by finding out new ways
- 25:33to grow fetuses. Or they get involved in human
- 25:36trafficking to make a quick buck or feed a fetish, or believing
- 25:41it is not moral to experiment on society to make a quick buck.
- 25:45You know what I'm talking about. And all of this exposes those
- 25:49who sit in darkness. So I do want to pull a quote
- 25:53from Chuck Thurston's essay. He says humans who rebel against
- 25:57God are inevitably causing the death of their souls.
- 26:01But they are also discovering the intoxicating hubris of false
- 26:05liberty with its releases from all restrictions and obligations
- 26:11having to do with decency, sincerity, and accountability.
- 26:16They can be dead spiritually and still wield tremendous
- 26:19influence. Over human affairs for the
- 26:22duration of their natural lifetimes.
- 26:26Again, using the embryo metaphor and attempting to conceptualize
- 26:30the emergence of the Supreme we can choose to be a part of that,
- 26:34or we can choose not to be a part of that.
- 26:38Our decisions here and now affect whether we take the next
- 26:42step, or we reject the notion of the next step altogether and try
- 26:47to reap all the pleasures in one single.
- 26:50Finite, instantaneous lifetime, which is what the world is
- 26:54currently selling you. And that is why these are
- 26:58confusing times. On bridal Liberty is
- 27:01intoxicating, and it slowly kills the spirit.
- 27:05The Son of Man taught us the way to avoid the pitfalls of this
- 27:09dangerous intoxication. He taught us to serve one
- 27:13another. And so I'm going to close with
- 27:16the same paragraph that I started with.
- 27:20From Paper 12, Section 7, there is operative throughout
- 27:25throughout all time and space, and with regard to all reality
- 27:29of whatever nature and exorable and impersonal law, which is
- 27:33equivalent to the function of cosmic Providence.
- 27:38Mercy characterizes God's attitude of love for the
- 27:42individual. Impartiality motivates God's
- 27:46attitude toward the total. The will of God does not
- 27:50necessarily prevail in the part the heart of any one
- 27:53personality, but His will does actually rule the whole the
- 27:59universe of universes. So I hope that those words bring
- 28:06you comfort and inspire you in in ways that I can only imagine.
- 28:11But this is a, I think, one of my most favorite subjects,
- 28:15something that I've been putting a lot of thought into.
- 28:18And I hope that you can appreciate some of what I've
- 28:22conveyed on this episode that's going to do it for this edition
- 28:26of the Rancho Radio Podcast. Don't forget you can always
- 28:29e-mail. Got a question about the show or
- 28:31a comment your Rancho book radio@gmail.com.