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Monday Night Rewind | Episode 11 | Ron Verash · Top Row Racing Media Monday Night Rewind

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  Top racing media on the coverage.
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  Let it fly free pass front roll at the whole track, No Northwest
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  Indiana, Southwest Michigan pride.
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  We bring the grit, bring the fight, bring the drive.
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  Kalamazoo New Paris Hartford 2 Galesburg fever when the green
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  flag flew limited laden models St.
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  Stocks front wheel drives, ash on the fenders.
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  Truth and the speed. Hear that rumble in the stairs
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  but above the side by side, Every green flag feels like
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  pride. Every lap is hard earned time
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  bro, Top bro. Grass roots to the cross top
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  bro. Keeping every memory alive.
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  Top bro. Hear that road.
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  Short track in our veins. We're chasing names of the
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  flames. Northwest southwest one loud
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  line means up bro take the crown.
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  We came to live this short track town toe toe lock ever on the K
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  our size on the break. Door to door battles.
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  Every move they make, one more lap and the whole world sees
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  what these corners mean to these just raw race nights in a whole
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  lot of hope. Late model Thunder stock cost
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  steel front wheels crawling through the wheel to wheel.
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  We feel the thrill, feel the pressure, feel the heat.
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  Every green flag shakes the sea. Grassroots Kingdom loud.
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  Just race day. Grit in a hometown crown.
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  Grass roots to the keeping every memory alive.
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  Short track in all veins. We chase the names of the
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  flames. Northwest, southwest, one loud
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  line. Take the crown.
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  We came to lift it short track town from the backstretch to the
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  last turn bite we keep the heart of racing insight Kalamazoo to
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  Galesburg glow that short track fire we help it show.
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  New pair is banging hard for shaking every lap was taken.
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  Top roads grassroots to the cold.
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  Top roads. Top roads keeping every memory
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  alive. Top roads kill that road can all
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  bays we face the name of the flames.
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  Northwest, southwest, one loud line.
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  Top Rd. Take the crown.
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  We came to lift this short track town.
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  Top row racing media, one track one row.
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  Oh top row racing media. We want more.
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  This is what we live for. All right, Buju, we are live on
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  top row racing media. It is a Monday.
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  I know it's a stormy Monday for some people, but it is Monday
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  nonetheless, and we're ready to move into the next week of
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  racing. So again, everyone share like do
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  whatever you can help us get this out.
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  We have Ron brash. He's already in the staging
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  area. So again, he'll be on in just a
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  few minutes here at Seven O 5. And for next week and the next
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  couple weeks, we're already booked up.
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  We have Tim Dibble who'll be joining us again next Monday at
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  7:05. He has the whole episode where
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  last couple weeks we've had a stacked episode.
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  So we're kind of giving some breathing space with Tim because
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  we can cover not only his racing career, but then obviously being
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  an owner, the Hartford season that's coming up.
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  And then on May 11th we have Rich Bowl again.
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  That was a reschedule from a few weeks ago where Rich Bowl will
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  be right on at seven O 5. And then we're going to have
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  Kalamazoo announcer, mini wedge announcer, do all the things,
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  Joel, front row, Dr. racer, former front wheel drive racer
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  should say at 735. And one more reminder on
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  Thursdays, Buju, we have the Thursday night throttle.
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  You and I again are back on Thursdays at 7:00 PM where we'll
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  be previewing the upcoming week, especially with Kalamazoo having
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  Alamo Township night thoughts as awareness.
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  New Paris has the V8 special with the cabin fever and just so
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  many other things going on in the area.
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  But holy cow, what's going on here?
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  There we go. There we are.
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  We're we're lost in the abyss for a second, but.
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  Anyways, welcome to Monday. Yes, Sir, a very good racing
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  weekend a a big win in the NASCAR for local interest.
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  Carson Osvar picking up his first NASCAR win.
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  I was at M40 this weekend. You were at New Paris.
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  I was New Paris for you over there this weekend.
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  Louis I. Mean that that 4 cylinder class
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  Sheldon LED lag. I you know, he as one of the few
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  front wheel drive racers out there, the outlaw style front
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  wheel drive. I mean he once he got out front,
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  he held it and he he had an answer every time Those mini
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  stocks were right on his case. There's some cautions where I
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  thought, oh man, this is when this is when the tide's going to
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  turn. But I mean he held everyone off
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  and Chris Harmon did a really hard push at the end and was
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  racing right is not a bad thing. They were they were going to
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  drag race to that front stretch and and Chris just ended up
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  going in the infield still crossed 2nd and reminded me,
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  reminding me last year of the finish between Logan and Kyle in
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  the outlaw race where they kind of like a drag drag race.
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  But you know, huge kudos to Sheldon.
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  That was an incredible race to watch.
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  Andrew de Reese put on a once he got that lead.
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  I, you know, I kept thinking, OK, you know, we're going to get
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  a caution at some point, some point.
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  No, once they figured out how to like start, then they, they, you
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  know, third time's the charm. And they, they did it on the
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  third time and they went 30 laps green from that point.
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  So other than the I, I don't even call it Jack Rabbit.
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  I you know, I think that's something you had didn't hit the
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  gas pedal soon enough. So I don't think that was sage.
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  It was a nice rolling start. I think that was on the outside
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  car, but whatever you know, I don't race the car.
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  I'm not going to judge, but I thought sage was doing you know
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  what you do at Kalamazoo, you get a nice rolling start and you
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  get going. So the outside lane was not
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  doing that. And so, but once they figured
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  out how to do that, they went green and did that.
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  And then the late limited light models skin were light on
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  numbers at about 9-1 unfortunately hit the wall and
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  heat races. But again, that and not
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  everybody was there. I know there are a couple cars
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  who's still playing the race at New Paris.
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  And so I thought, you know, they put on a nice race once again,
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  kind of like once bug got out front, you know, he it was it
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  was him or a mistake was going to change, right.
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  And so and then the Hornets, they, you know, they had a a few
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  mishaps, but other than that they put on once once they got
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  going, right, it's like everyone had to get the jitters out.
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  So, you know, for people who didn't go, I know the Notre Dame
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  blue gold game was going on and that had what like a record
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  crowd or something crazy that I saw.
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  So you know, you're going head to head with Notre Dame.
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  That's hard to hard to compete with when you have so much going
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  into this next season. After the playoffs snub last
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  year, I think there's a lot of motivated Irish fans to, you
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  know, get this revenge tour going.
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  So so yeah, I you know, if people missed it this week, we
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  had the VA Classic, which is the trifecta 1075 to win for outlaw,
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  not outlaw. Excuse me for limited late
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  Kalamazoo's in my head Outlaw Lemonade, but we got we got rid
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  of the outlaw name up there too. They're just limited late and
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  then modified 1075 to win. I believe both are 275 to start.
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  I'll have to double check. Don't quote me on 250 or 275.
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  And then St. stocks go for 1000 to win.
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  So those those St. classes for the first leg of the trifecta.
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  So I'm looking forward to that and seeing what they can do.
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  But I know M40 had quite the show.
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  So what did you think about M40? They did.
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  I think they had 22. Ever take one there?
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  Crown Vics, factory forwards, whatever we call them these
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  days, They put on an excellent feature that was a great race
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  and upfront and through the field, Michael Solan's took the
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  win in that one. So that was a great race.
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  They had a star-studded St. Stock field, multiple class
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  champions from everywhere. Yanis won that as well as the
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  limited late model feature there.
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  But yeah, they had a good crowd. And let me tell you this deep
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  fried Uncrustable. I've been going down 40 for
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  three years now and I keep kept hearing about this Uncrustable.
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  I finally tried it on Saturday. The hype's real.
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  That Uncrustable is unbelievable, dude.
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  Yeah, that first season when they took over, I think they
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  brought that charge then. And it's it's as advertised.
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  And that year Megan did a video on the concession stand where
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  they had like the powdered sugar where they did like this whole
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  thing. And I'm like, OK, if that
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  doesn't sell any, then I don't know what it is.
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  Because it's like when you go to a movie theater and they have
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  the popcorn on the screen and also and you're like, I'm on
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  popcorn. There's that, but I know that
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  Sheldon's on here already. So, you know, I hope you guys
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  enjoyed the race at new Paris and, and you know me, I'm not a
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  big like on Mondays on the show, you know, comments thing.
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  But again, I I it's what Sheldon did and that race was just.
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  Yeah. You know, I think when people
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  thought this class, they thought the mini wedge or mini wedges,
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  excuse me, mini stop them and come in, beat them all up and
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  there's not going to be any outlaws.
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  But let's be frank. You know, that class was
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  struggling for numbers. You had five or six and most of
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  them are family. And then you know, many stocks.
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  They they had pretty decent numbers ten 14812.
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  You know it just on the week, but you know, I've been a big
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  proponent of ABCI know not everyone likes ABC.
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  But if you already think about it, new Paris essentially
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  already is running ABC without calling it ABC.
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  You have 4 cylinders, which would be your a group.
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  Then you have the the fastest Hornets, which would be your B
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  and your Hornet B features your CABC.
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  You're doing it. So I don't you know, it's a
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  perception thing. You just have to change the
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  mindset around that that you know, it is it's still a
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  feature, you know, but but again, there's just huge kudos
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  to Sheldon. He put on that race was just if
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  people haven't watched it yet, go back and watch it because
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  even Jeremy warningers like he has a pride of lions on his and
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  and there's no space. I mean he he didn't crash
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  anybody. Kudos to Chris Harmon and and
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  that group behind them. They had opportunities where
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  they could have dumped Sheldon and then and they didn't right.
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  So kudos to them. I know taking second, third, 4th
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  and 5th isn't, you know, wasn't Dingo board, but you know, they
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  they had opportunity to to destroy cars if they really
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  wanted to and they didn't. So huge kudos to the Harmons and
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  and everyone behind Sheldon on that, that they they showed what
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  that class could do if given the opportunity.
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  And and Sheldon races was national compacts.
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  So he's raced with many stocks before.
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  It's not. New.
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  Yeah. So, you know, so again, that was
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  that was fun. But other than that, I know
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  Ron's been hanging out and I know he was at M40.
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  So why don't we bring Ron on? And you know, Ron, what did you
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  think about M40? Because that was your first time
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  back since the April 11th show. So what do you think?
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  Yeah, I will say once Kalamazoo got rained out, I said OK,
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  there's about 6-7 more cars coming and other tracks not
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  running yet. I thought, OK, we're going to
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  get a couple more sneakers in there.
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  And it sure enough, it did. I was surprised by the Crown
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  VIX. I thought we'd see 14 or 15.
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  And, you know, we had some more of the South Bend area cars roll
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  up there to the Holloway clan was up there and that old one,
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  and he runs pretty good. That reminds me of a Mclon car.
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  But I think that's Babbinger in that car and he had a good run.
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  But yeah, I haven't, you know, 1819 of them.
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  And then women at lakes are still light a little bit.
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  I mean, it's just like this class has got to get going at
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  some point. And you know, it's like you just
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  keep wanting to see more on the track and I mean 7/8, you know,
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  everybody wants to see 16 or 12 or 14.
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  And so that's getting on street socks.
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  Like Buju said that was telling the class and Bobby said he was
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  going to head up there Streamy and town was up there then to
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  gain us cars. Oh, well, that's going to be a
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  quick boy there. And I think they had like 18 and
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  there's still like 5 or 6 that weren't there that you would
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  probably see in week 3 or 4. And then I say the Pro 4 class
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  is extreme class. I think there's 12/13 of them.
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  Then a lot of mechanical issues in that group there.
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  And then the Road Warriors, I think it was like 1718 and that
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  was a good show there. Extreme stocks, I think they had
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  9, so say 93 cars and I'm going to say about 850, maybe 900
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  people were there right around my guesstimation.
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  And you know, a lot of South Bend area folks were up there.
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  And then, you know, some Kalamazoo people were there just
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  when they're looking at the books and we're talking and
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  stuff. And a lot of our commenting on
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  your show, they were like always say that you're going to be in
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  that Lewis show, aren't you? Monday nights?
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  Yes, I am. I said, we're going to talk
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  about some more big names and stuff.
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  And they said we, that's a really cool show you guys are
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  doing. I said, well, Lewis is doing it.
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  I'm just, I'm just a, I'm just a subsidiary of it down the line
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  here and stuff, but entertaining show.
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  I thought, oh boy, they're hot lapping 4 cars and five cars at
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  a time. I thought, oh, we're going to be
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  starting late. We're going to be starting late.
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  And it took a couple cars to oil the track and next thing you
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  know they're running a little bit behind.
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  But the crowd was very, you know, 65° and sunny.
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  They had a lot of patience there and stuff and a good show.
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  I mean it got done I think at 10581059.
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  I know Travis was watching it with his watch and you know, it
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  was a close call there, but good show.
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  And I got the one interview with the guy with the VROA that he
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  had 13 of them there and that was his first ever win.
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  And Dave Sensenbaugh was his mentor, was their men person
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  watching it. And then his dad, Bob, who used
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  to raise super late, was actually in the camper and
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  stuff. So it was a good show and got a
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  little cool at the end of the night and stuff.
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  It's kind of warm up back from Mclawn Neck this coming week.
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  So it's like the little bit of the travel to set up to tear it
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  down and get home. And it's like, boy, this next
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  week's gonna be about 6 more hours added to this deal.
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  So I gotta I gotta have my Wheaties ready on Friday night
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  there. I think that's, you know, just
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  to kind of go back to your comment about the show, I mean,
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  wherever I am, I've been getting a lot of reviews about the
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  Monday Night Rewind and people look forward to listening to it.
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  And, and as I told Buju, what I really like that we do is, you
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  know, I feel like, you know, we're giving a lot of people who
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  probably wouldn't be on a podcast a chance to be on a
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  podcast, a chance to tell their story, who they're about, you
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  know, the people who you're gonna see walking, you know,
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  through Walmart and Meijer and, you know, Dollar General or
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  wherever it may be, right? Like, you know, it, it, it's
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  always, you know, you see some podcasts, national level,
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  regional level, that they always just want the big names and the
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  big people and the big sponsors. And it's like, that's not what
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  this not, that's not what top rows ever been, you know, and,
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  and and I'm so glad, you know, having abusion, of course, Drew
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  Jack, when he's able to be around that, you know, they
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  support that vision. Like, you know, let's get the
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  night of destruction people on here.
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  Let's get the front wheel drive racers, let's get St. stock
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  racers who maybe they're not going to win or, you know, they
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  might not win the feature, but they're going to be there.
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  They're going to they're going to pay the same $35 pit pass as
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  everybody else for $30.00 that, you know, Megan and Leah, you
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  know, getting them on there. And I see Russell's is on here.
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  But and we have some big names coming up to that.
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  It's like, I really like that. I think that's what a lot of
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  people appreciate about this, at least from the feedback that
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  I've been giving them. Like, well, I'm so glad that the
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  philosophy that I've had behind this is, is translating right?
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  You know, sometimes you just wonder like, is it translating?
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  And again, it's, you know, I'm not metrics driven.
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  I, I watch metrics and I look at metrics because I want to know
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  the metrics. But that doesn't change what we
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  do. If anything, it's, you know,
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  each week, the show, you know, we get more and more viewers,
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  more and more things. And it's because everyone's
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  supporting. And that's what I appreciate.
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  And you know, I appreciate you taking time out again on your
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  Monday to come back and tell more stories.
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  And I'm like, we're giving you the whole episode again.
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  So, you know, I hope everyone puts comments in here to ask you
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  questions because again, once you get the floor, Bouje and I
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  are just going to listen. You know we're.
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  Going to let you. Go like you're talking with the
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  classes and we talked about lesser classes years ago make
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  better racing new pairs combined 2 struggling classes now you got
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  a great show rather than two owners and I mean I'm glad 40
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  did the same thing up there with the mini stocks and the you know
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  the the pro fours. I would call them super compacts
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  and you know, it's like you just you got to get some cars in a
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  race. And like I say, when that Crown
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  Victoria race happened Saturday night, there is like everybody
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  said this going to be good race here.
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  And someone's got up there and the Terry's were racing sorry,
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  but I thought they were going to put each other in the wall.
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  That looked like the someone's book deal a couple weeks ago.
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  One was putting the other one right up against the wall and
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  thought oh boy, we could have some some deals here.
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  But someone's held them off at the lap traffic.
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  And it's, it's about racing. We talk about exposure.
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  And you know, like doing those interviews years ago, I started
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  them and you know, Pierre, why are you doing it?
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  I'm just going to do it on my own.
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  That's no one's paying me. I'm not getting a cent doing it.
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  I'm just going to put on my own pocket and do all this stuff.
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  And you know, then you look at 10,000 views by Wednesday,
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  Thursday and they say, hey, we're making some, you know,
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  progress and stuff. And you know, it's like you got
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  to give these guys exposure. It's just, we can't be just what
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  we read in the old race paper because there's no more race
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  paper. We can put stuff on Facebooks.
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  Half of it's going to be kind of like a fighting terms and the
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  the negative about it. So we get these, you know,
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  interviews put up there like what you're doing.
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  I try to do what I can when we're up here and then
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  especially down South. And even my sponsor pictures.
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  I haven't taken sponsored pictures for over a decade and I
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  keep pushing these guys. Get your sponsors, contact them
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  all year. You just can't wait till March
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  and say I need sponsors. I, you know, remember last year,
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  what'd you do? I heck, I ran and I don't
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  remember I was at in points. Did you win any?
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  I think I won three. You know, you got, you know,
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  they just got to keep plugging this stuff and you know, these,
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  these guys say put the bills and you don't have cars on the
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  track. And some of these drivers, I
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  mean, I see a post on Facebook, I need a car somebody to sponsor
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  me. I'm going to race at 9 tracks
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  and I'm thinking I'll be lucky to be at 2:00.
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  And then, you know, what are you going to do afterwards?
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  And I say, God, get a portfolio put together and just do like a
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  professional presentation of what you got and what you look
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  like your family and, you know, maybe not your criminal record,
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  but that might that works good for some.
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  But you know, it's all about exposure and, you know, being
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  satisfied fan wise and promoter wise, driver wise.
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  And I mean, I'm looking at Bill and he's like, man, I didn't
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  expect as many people here tonight.
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  That's as a pleasant surprise because sometimes those April
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  shows can be real, real dogs for, you know, being 4550° and
• 19:46
  you want to do the show and you get 300 stands, 200 stands, you
• 19:49
  got 82 cars. It's like what the pit passes
• 19:51
  are going to pay for this purse, but nothing else, you know, So,
• 19:55
  but yeah, kudos what you guys are doing here because it's it's
• 19:58
  not easy and everybody thinks we all have copious amounts of time
• 20:01
  to do a lot of stuff and, you know.
• 20:04
  We, we all, I mean, I still have a full time job.
• 20:05
  I'll be doing a probably an 11 or 12 hour shift after getting
• 20:08
  out of here. So we got a, it's just for
• 20:11
  another few more months yet, but we're getting there.
• 20:14
  But yeah, good show and a great exposure.
• 20:17
  And I mean hopefully all the promoters watch all this stuff
• 20:20
  too to see what goes down. Well, and, and we have, you
• 20:24
  know, Leah Deble's always in here and, and I appreciate her,
• 20:27
  but I mean, you see a lot of the same names every single week.
• 20:30
  And I try to give those shout outs because I want people to
• 20:32
  see like we see that, you know, we noticed that and you know,
• 20:36
  because it, I know it means a lot to Boujou and I know it
• 20:38
  means a lot to myself and, and it's always that appreciation
• 20:42
  and staying grounded. I think Boujou did a really nice
• 20:44
  post yesterday that, you know, he's not in this to get insight
• 20:48
  scoops. He's not in this to break the
• 20:50
  news. He's not in this to, you know,
• 20:53
  have a stick measuring contest of numbers and everything.
• 20:58
  And that's where I think that's one thing that, you know, even
• 21:03
  for myself, when I think about like when Springport gifted me
• 21:07
  that scooter that I fell off at Super Shoe, you know, but when
• 21:10
  they did that right, like I'm on the front stretch, but people
• 21:13
  know that's not me. I mean, you really see photos of
• 21:15
  me because it's like it's not about me, it's about the
• 21:18
  drivers. And you know, that's what we
• 21:20
  sacrifice all these hours and you with miles going down to
• 21:23
  Mount Lawn. I mean, just think of the
• 21:24
  exposure for that track and how many people have learned about
• 21:27
  Mount Lawn. That's probably why we have
• 21:29
  Crown Vics up here for a good probability there.
• 21:33
  So it's like we're all doing our part, right?
• 21:35
  And it's, you know, I think some people get in this to showboat
• 21:38
  and be the front of the stage and, and say, oh, I can do this
• 21:42
  and I can do that. And they they forget the core of
• 21:45
  it, right? You know, you know, some people
• 21:47
  do chase the my favorite nickname, likes and money and
• 21:52
  you know, some people chase that and go after that, But it's like
• 21:55
  you go do you, right? You know, copycat whoever you
• 21:58
  want. That's fine, go do that.
• 22:00
  But it's not authentic, right? And there's a way to be
• 22:03
  authentic. So and you're someone who has
• 22:05
  done it authentically over the years where you've just found a
• 22:08
  way to make people matter and and make them feel like they
• 22:11
  matter, especially with your Victor Lane interviews, you
• 22:14
  know, think of how many drivers you've probably interviewed who
• 22:17
  may have never even been interviewed before, you know,
• 22:21
  you know, I think them got exposure that they wouldn't have
• 22:24
  gotten, you know. And Brady this past Saturday,
• 22:27
  that was his first ever win in the the VRA class.
• 22:31
  And yeah, let's say I know when we started doing other
• 22:33
  interviews at other tracks, a lot of drivers weren't
• 22:35
  remembering their sponsors. And I say, Mandy, I was trying
• 22:38
  to either lip them to them or point to them and that and I
• 22:41
  say, you know, that's really important thing.
• 22:43
  You should really know this. We're about to be in a NASCAR
• 22:45
  guy that has his stuff stuck in his head, but you know, he got
• 22:48
  to be ready. Said oh man, he won.
• 22:50
  Only I got to remember my sponsors now and I said give you
• 22:52
  a couple seconds to look him over and man, it can go a long
• 22:56
  way. Definitely there.
• 22:58
  Be like missing a kid's birthday boy.
• 22:59
  You can't check over that if you forget our parents birthday.
• 23:03
  Well, that's when I did the the Marf banquet.
• 23:06
  There's a couple people like the one guy forgot to say his wife.
• 23:09
  And so we get we redid it because he's, you know, he knew
• 23:12
  he would not live that down if that got I mentioned.
• 23:17
  But you know, even that there's a lot of you know, I felt like
• 23:20
  the kids, the mini wedge racers and all that, they did such an A
• 23:24
  better job in many cases than some of the adults were, you
• 23:27
  know, like, well, who do you want to thank?
• 23:29
  And and some, you know, wrote it down.
• 23:30
  But that's where I was talking with Kenny Hat.
• 23:32
  I said just think if this mini wedge program that they're
• 23:35
  building, I said, what if you took one day and no heat races,
• 23:38
  which I know that's like a triggering to a lot of people,
• 23:41
  no heat races, but you know, use that time to coach every kid on
• 23:45
  the property that day. We're going to practice
• 23:47
  interviews. Taylor, Paul, Kenny, whoever,
• 23:51
  all their volunteers. You can get KTS in there whoever
• 23:53
  you want, go around and interview each kid for a minute
• 23:57
  to get them comfortable. Because at the Rumble in Fort
• 23:59
  Wayne, I saw that where you just saw so many people freeze as
• 24:02
  soon as the pet Rd. TV, which again, I mean, I would
• 24:05
  probably do the same damn thing. And I'm a public, you know, I
• 24:08
  public speak, but you know, you get a pit Rd.
• 24:10
  TV and an interview right in front of you and all the sudden
• 24:13
  like, Oh crap, you know, but it's you know, how can you
• 24:15
  practice that? How can you practice those
• 24:17
  opportunities? Because you know, a lot of
• 24:19
  tracks they don't have that extra announcer to go down to
• 24:21
  Victory Lane and do these things anymore like you used to in the
• 24:25
  day. So you know, who actually gets
• 24:27
  that practice? How or how do they get that
• 24:29
  practice? And so it's almost kind of you
• 24:31
  think of these college programs, they have people literally who
• 24:35
  that's their job is to go and you practice media, right?
• 24:38
  And so it's one of those things that again, I just, I know
• 24:41
  everyone appreciates what you do.
• 24:43
  And, and I watched that interview.
• 24:44
  I, I'm, I like the Vroa cars. You know, I always like watching
• 24:48
  them race and I know my, my dad Bob, he likes, he always likes
• 24:53
  those vintage cars too. And so I got a chance to be
• 24:57
  like, oh, I didn't even know who that I don't even remember that
• 24:59
  driver. So I got to learn about him, You
• 25:01
  know, 'cause you see a lot of us drivers with that group, but
• 25:04
  every now and then they swap them out.
• 25:05
  So again, just, you know, if you haven't been thanked lately,
• 25:09
  thank you again for, you know, all that you do 'cause I know
• 25:11
  for so many people, it means so much to them.
• 25:14
  I know it's cool going back. The thing is about 13 years ago,
• 25:17
  my Warsaw Speedway did the photos there for four different
• 25:19
  events and that's and then the following year they did first
• 25:22
  show they had the modifies on the track at midnight and that
• 25:24
  was the end of it. But there was a show in
• 25:26
  September and Dave Darwin was going to be there to race.
• 25:28
  And that was his first time ever in a mini Sprint.
• 25:31
  And I never thought that would be possible with all the years
• 25:33
  of racing he did. But we did an interview there.
• 25:35
  But there was another youngster I interviewed, little boy and #7
• 25:39
  from Adrian MI and I said John Noddy, that might be a
• 25:42
  possibility or Dane. And it was actually, it was
• 25:47
  John's grandson. And so I interviewed him and now
• 25:52
  he's racing All Star sprints and stuff.
• 25:53
  So I was like a pretty cool deal there.
• 25:55
  And so I was like, you know, then the mom came out and then
• 25:59
  he they thanked me. And because I mentioned John
• 26:01
  starting sod back in 1980 and you know, then it kind of like
• 26:05
  it. Then another week later though,
• 26:06
  the family like, Oh my God, that was really cool.
• 26:08
  You remember all that stuff back then?
• 26:09
  I said, well, we were just going through the pits.
• 26:11
  Emerson accent. It was another interview we did
• 26:13
  down there at Warsaw one time with him when he was a little
• 26:15
  kid. So and he's with Root of
• 26:17
  Outlaws. So it's like those kids with
• 26:18
  those mini sprints, you never know where they're going to go.
• 26:20
  And then we had another one, Russ Gangster.
• 26:22
  He want to race there. I think he's racing for about
• 26:25
  the last 65 years and he won the the pro mini Sprint feature race
• 26:30
  and what an interview there. And I'm thinking of all the
• 26:33
  things he's done. You sack silver crown, you sack
• 26:35
  sprints, midgets, Phoenix smile areas racing worse on a Friday
• 26:39
  night coming up from Peru. So kind of a pretty cool deal
• 26:42
  there. But yeah, I could say exposure
• 26:45
  is the key and keeping it positive and people, you know,
• 26:49
  they just never know they're going to put the camera on them.
• 26:51
  And you know, it's like sometimes I go on that I'm
• 26:53
  trying to find Woodhall Friday or Saturday night 'cause he won
• 26:56
  that pro, that stock compact race, which is a great race,
• 26:59
  holding off wood and I couldn't find him.
• 27:01
  And then couple other guys were like, oh, you know, always that
• 27:03
  kind of nervous when he do an interview.
• 27:05
  And I'm like, well, all right, I told Travis, I said well, we'll
• 27:07
  just pack up and get going, you know, and get home and stuff.
• 27:10
  And it'll be another day, another battle there.
• 27:12
  But anyway, good to be on the show and you know, we talked
• 27:15
  about favorite racing back in the day and I kind of threw some
• 27:19
  other stuff together on times times there was racing was
• 27:22
  really good. And I'm just I'm kind of whipped
• 27:25
  through them here for a few minutes.
• 27:26
  While I was thinking about 19787879, we're running slicks
• 27:30
  for late models and New Paris was getting about 13 or 14.
• 27:33
  But of that 13 or 14 we had like Nairi, we'd have Terry Seneker
• 27:38
  there, Bob Carnes, Dick Barker. We would also would have Lyle
• 27:42
  Bailey in a 57 Chevy with putting slicks on it, like Keith
• 27:45
  Bailey putting on slicks and Tom Davies putting on slicks to race
• 27:48
  with the Super. So it was like a 13 car field,
• 27:50
  but you know, the probably a three second difference, if not
• 27:52
  more than that on times. And mysteriously they they came
• 27:57
  up with this protract tire, a hard treaded tire and they
• 28:01
  dropped a super late class. They brought up the hobby stocks
• 28:04
  to be like a limited late model. And South Bend, New Paris,
• 28:09
  Angola, Avila, Fort Wayne, Rockford, Kalamazoo and Anderson
• 28:14
  all picked up that same tire rule.
• 28:16
  And that's when the ASA Limited sportsman started up and those
• 28:19
  guys were all legal. So you had like your Wayne Lens
• 28:22
  scenes and your Wayne Swarts in Wisconsin coming down and down,
• 28:25
  Leeches and Rich Bickles racing, Tracy Leslie from the east side
• 28:29
  of the state, Dennis met at Pennigan.
• 28:31
  You had Ray Fullen from Anderson area and Fields.
• 28:37
  They had cars that were legal. He had your Fort Wayne group, A
• 28:40
  dancer, Chrisman Stovall. They all have the same, you
• 28:45
  know. Then we have that race at South
• 28:47
  Bend and we had like say Charlie Hunt was in that mix, Garen, Sir
• 28:50
  Fred Reed, Malecki, Jim Blunt, Bobby Blunt, Tom Tromboli.
• 28:55
  And then we start having guys because the cars are legal.
• 28:57
  They could travel. Now you have a car and you want
• 29:00
  to travel, It's like, Oh my God, where are the rules going to be?
• 29:02
  I was, you know, I was even I'm worth my time to almost like the
• 29:05
  Wheelman series, man, I like to show up that race, but I'm not
• 29:07
  legal, so I can't show up. But these guys are racing and we
• 29:10
  went down to Indianapolis for a race and say Vern Chirac, buddy,
• 29:13
  Chirac was down there. Tromboli was down there.
• 29:15
  I mean, it was just because they're all illegal.
• 29:17
  And somehow if we can just get some kind of universal rules set
• 29:21
  up that would that would be so much cooler for the guys that
• 29:24
  could just show up and race. Because even St.
• 29:26
  Stocks, you know, I mean, a street stock's a street stock.
• 29:30
  You know, back in the day, a late model's a late model.
• 29:31
  But now it's like, Oh my God, every tracks got a little bit of
• 29:35
  an island different on these, some of these rules.
• 29:36
  And it makes it tough for guys to want to go back and forth and
• 29:39
  they don't want to go and stay in a tech line forever.
• 29:41
  I remember I was talking to Bobby Strummy Saturday night and
• 29:44
  he says we went to Owosso last year.
• 29:45
  He says we're on the Jack stands for 45 minutes.
• 29:48
  They were checking that car over like everything.
• 29:51
  And he says, and we're like, we know we're legal, but they were
• 29:53
  still going through, you know, probably figure, hey, Bobby's
• 29:56
  coming 200 miles away. We better check these things
• 29:58
  out. And but there's a cool time with
• 30:02
  that protract tire with that hard shredded.
• 30:04
  And people complained about it, but boy, it slowed him down.
• 30:07
  I remember Leroy Skiles now Danny would spin his tires, but
• 30:11
  he would still win a lot. And I remember Leroy was saying,
• 30:14
  actually, I'm closer to Denny now on times because he spins
• 30:18
  his tires where we can figure out the handling a little bit.
• 30:20
  He says we can actually maybe win a few races against him now.
• 30:24
  And actually he did. So that was kind of a cool time.
• 30:26
  Another time was like when sod went to pavement racing and they
• 30:31
  had sod on dirt, sprints on dirt and they had a villa with
• 30:34
  Capital Speedway Fort Wayne and Tom Ish was owning it and they
• 30:40
  kept itching to have Sprint car races while your Thursday night
• 30:42
  Thunder was kicking in on TV with this wingless sprints on
• 30:45
  Thursday night. Great show.
• 30:46
  A lot of guys from Michigan were taking the wings off with
• 30:49
  pavement cars. And we had, you know, a group
• 30:51
  from Warsaw had just closed a few years before too.
• 30:54
  So Tom's like let's put Sprint cars on pavement at first show
• 30:57
  was at a villing. It was July 4th for a race and
• 31:01
  they had about 18 sprints. You had your dirt Sprint cars
• 31:03
  putting on slicks for the first time.
• 31:06
  Now, Hank Lauer raced some slicks before, but he had slicks
• 31:09
  then. You had like your Mike Vander
• 31:11
  Moss, Bob Sealman, Jeff Bloom, the pavement specialist that
• 31:15
  weren't even like you won't even see the tires break loose in the
• 31:17
  corners. Well, Hank got the lead and he's
• 31:20
  every corner. He's just like flooring it like
• 31:22
  a dirt car. And Jim, Jim M Stutch is like
• 31:24
  this guy, this is going to blow up.
• 31:26
  This tires got to be blowing up. Lap 24.
• 31:28
  The thing finally blew up coming out of two and I think Jeff
• 31:31
  Bloom took the win. But that was that next show they
• 31:34
  did it at Plymouth and I think they have 15 cars show up that
• 31:38
  place. I never seen a place full of
• 31:40
  people. And Tom Ish put a great clip on.
• 31:42
  He showed Knoxville, IA for the Plymouth thing on TV and it
• 31:46
  showed those cars flipping into the fence and over the fence.
• 31:48
  And people are thinking, Oh my God.
• 31:50
  But they didn't have nothing like that happen.
• 31:52
  But that was a great time inside because then the Warsaw guys
• 31:55
  like Tom Patterson, Denny England, he started a long win
• 31:59
  streak at Fort Wayne, BIM Go Atkins, Tim Norman, even Tony
• 32:04
  Elliott come up race pavements against some of the guys with
• 32:07
  Jason McCord and Donnie Adams from down South.
• 32:09
  He had Gary Fido, a Bill Tyler, Brian Tyler.
• 32:13
  They had Ron Kohler up north here that had a Sprint car for
• 32:15
  years, but he had to travel. Now he's got Shoals in the local
• 32:18
  tracks now and that was, you know, got 3540 cars at a couple
• 32:23
  of Labor Day shows. A lot of the fields were like in
• 32:26
  the 20s and then Fort Wayne decided they wanted to break
• 32:30
  away from sod a little bit or with auto value.
• 32:33
  So auto value is kind of the Michigan group.
• 32:35
  He had a sport lane group or still was like 20 some cars in
• 32:37
  that group and the races were still pretty good.
• 32:41
  And Carrie, Jerry, Carrie was another one that came about and
• 32:44
  other guys just start showing up with pavement cars and then must
• 32:47
  see showed up and they kind of sided with Hoosier.
• 32:52
  Who's your outlaw super series? So that kind of put out of value
• 32:55
  on an island. So they kind of do it a little
• 32:57
  bit and then like with three years later, they're back to
• 32:59
  have it one class and they're like 12 cars.
• 33:02
  It was like, oh, they had so many cars, but a lot of those
• 33:04
  guys just got up in age. It's almost like those guys that
• 33:06
  South and when they race those supers in the 80s, a lot of them
• 33:08
  in their 50s and early 60s and they're like, now we can't keep
• 33:12
  doing this for another four or five years.
• 33:14
  This is kind of like a last hurrah for a couple years.
• 33:16
  And a lot of guys are just getting up in age and just like,
• 33:18
  man, we're we just they're just done.
• 33:21
  And every that thing that happens to a lot of tracks with
• 33:23
  some of the, you know, core drivers and classes, they move
• 33:26
  on or get out of racing. And he just man, where's who's,
• 33:29
  who's going to be the next guys that's going to be able to step
• 33:31
  up and keep that going. Because the VA technology, it's
• 33:35
  like we're talking even Saturday night there and the VA
• 33:39
  technology, you open the hood and you know where everything's
• 33:41
  at. But these 4 cylinder cars, you
• 33:43
  open up a hood, it's like, my God, where's the battery?
• 33:45
  How many sensors are there? It's so much less mechanical
• 33:48
  where they talk about the timing near the computer and stuff is
• 33:52
  so much important in racing now. Someone's got the altered
• 33:54
  computer and their chips and this and that or the old days it
• 33:57
  was just open your hood and, you know, things were simpler back
• 34:00
  then. But kind of going back, we're
• 34:02
  talking about some more great times, too.
• 34:04
  Was Winchester the Magnum Oil series now?
• 34:07
  New Paris had them with Super Late Models.
• 34:10
  They opened the body rules up in 8283.
• 34:12
  Big spoilers, longer noses. And then Winchester picked that
• 34:16
  up and ran a Magnum Oil series. Linda Holman was running that
• 34:19
  big. Magnum Oil was out of New York
• 34:20
  and they sponsored. He had Bobby Blunt and yeah,
• 34:24
  Bruce Hartlip and Jim Cooper, Fred Hall, Dwayne Mcgonigo,
• 34:28
  Ronimus. They all were like on the high
• 34:29
  banks of Winchester was Super Late Models with the big
• 34:32
  spoilers. And it was like, holy smokes,
• 34:34
  those cars were there are some pretty daunting wrecks.
• 34:37
  But that series lasted I think five years.
• 34:39
  A lot of series seem to last about 5-6 years and then they
• 34:42
  just kind of it just kind of wanes a little bit.
• 34:45
  And another series that was cool back in the day was that fast
• 34:48
  series. They ran it at Fort Wayne and
• 34:49
  then it was like 8586 template Late Models and it was Fort
• 34:54
  Wayne and they had the fast guy was out of Detroit so they had
• 34:58
  some Flat Rock guys come down and Albert suspended.
• 35:00
  Sandusky was on the schedule. But yeah, Johnny Miller actually
• 35:03
  are Johnny Miller from Montville.
• 35:06
  Margie's and the Leo son. He was the rookie of the
• 35:08
  Internet and he was a point champions too in that class.
• 35:11
  And then he had Butch Miller run it, Mark Johnson, Rd.
• 35:14
  Summers, Chuck Romel, Larry Knowlton, Bobby Blunt, Stan
• 35:17
  Perry, Larry Zent, Steve Chrisman and just the names.
• 35:21
  They had like 2428 Late Models and they had the first race they
• 35:25
  had at Fort Wayne. It was a memorial weekend.
• 35:28
  Buddy Shrock was on the way to Berlin to race.
• 35:31
  He raced his car and Butch Miller was there.
• 35:35
  Harold Cook was there. They had a big wreck on lap one
• 35:37
  on the backstretch. Harold Cook broke his wrist, but
• 35:40
  the car was still drivable. Butch Miller really wrecked his
• 35:43
  car so Butch got in. Harold Cook's Late model started
• 35:46
  on the tail so they had about 17 cars left 50 lap and Buddy was
• 35:50
  leaded and leaded. Here comes Butch and Harold
• 35:52
  Cook's car beats him at the line by two feet and I was like all
• 35:56
  things to get into another drivers car not even
• 35:58
  understanding you know, other than you know, obviously foot
• 36:01
  pedal gap, you know, and that all Butch needed to know and
• 36:04
  then take on wins to race something like that.
• 36:06
  But a great series. It ran for about 3 years and you
• 36:09
  know, always had guys coming from the Cleveland area, Toledo,
• 36:12
  it would make that hall to Fort Wayne.
• 36:13
  And I mean that was that was a great time.
• 36:16
  Another time was Galesburg. But 1980 they open up the rules.
• 36:19
  That's when dirt was starting to do the big spoilers.
• 36:22
  And eventually first guys that were doing it were Marty
• 36:25
  Crawford, Racer X. He had that big spoiler.
• 36:27
  He had John Dole, the Pineapple Kid as they would call him.
• 36:31
  He would do the big spoilers at Dick Bissett, Larry Knowlton,
• 36:34
  Jerry Mint, Tom McGee, Debbie Nash, Ron Simmons, Tom Rugg,
• 36:38
  Freddie Cook, Bob Shippers. Then a guy showed up that we got
• 36:41
  rained out at Berlin for AASA race.
• 36:44
  My buddies wrestling Randy and I went, so let's go to Galesburg.
• 36:47
  Randy Sweet brought that car out the red car with the big
• 36:50
  Plexiglasses all over the car and he had that thing parked
• 36:54
  kind of like a about worry about pull out it.
• 36:56
  So it's like the center stage. I took a bunch of Oh my God,
• 36:59
  look at this darn thing. They had the the side pods that
• 37:02
  had like a, a, a splitter on the roof, longer noses.
• 37:06
  And that thing was turning to like 12 fifties is like, wow,
• 37:09
  this thing's really hauling the butt.
• 37:10
  And then later on that's when he was setting all those track
• 37:13
  records everywhere. He'd go to Kalamazoo with it and
• 37:15
  that's where he did that world's fastest 3/8 mile.
• 37:18
  Then he went the those all got in Birmingham, AL with a 5/8.
• 37:22
  He went to Winchester and even Junior Hanley saw him at
• 37:26
  Winchester and he's Oh my God, this thing's a weapon.
• 37:28
  You seen how fast that car was and that thing was like down in
• 37:31
  the fourteens. It's like this unheard of slicks
• 37:33
  and everything. But that was some really just
• 37:37
  some good times, like only a 5-6 year period.
• 37:39
  Now I got one more. I flip my page here.
• 37:41
  I had to write this up this afternoon.
• 37:42
  So I don't want to forget all this, but kind of like going
• 37:47
  back with that, you know, when we had that HA series and that
• 37:50
  with the payment sprints. And I remember Ron Kohler, he
• 37:54
  was leading the points for Haas. He had a chance to be on
• 37:57
  national TV or Thursday night Thunder.
• 37:59
  So he's on TV for Thursday night Thunder.
• 38:01
  It was on TV live and Jack Hewitt clips him and there's a
• 38:05
  good thing on YouTube. He can actually look this up and
• 38:07
  puts Kohler into the fence and Hewitt's into the fence and
• 38:10
  Kohler's car. I mean, they they ran and they
• 38:12
  were checking him out. I think he had one wheel left on
• 38:15
  the car after that in the fence. And Ron says all that damn
• 38:19
  Hewitt, I'm going to kick his a double S, you know, and Ron's
• 38:22
  still trying to get out of the car and he's like, Oh my God, am
• 38:24
  I sore? And Hewitt goes by and he says,
• 38:27
  you all right. And Ron's like, well, OK, just
• 38:32
  kept on walking, never apologized or anything.
• 38:34
  And Ron's like that. I want to kick him.
• 38:35
  I want to just whip him that I couldn't even get out hard to
• 38:37
  get out of the car. Well, he was leading the house
• 38:39
  points. Next day was a show up here and
• 38:43
  Kohler's like I scram had to get another car ready.
• 38:45
  He had car, he had to scram different wing on it, different
• 38:47
  body work on. He'd had piece of car together.
• 38:49
  Just he's man. I'm leading aside the the house
• 38:52
  points and now this thing happens of all things.
• 38:54
  But just some cool little tidbits back in the day with
• 38:58
  racey. I remember Plymouth in early
• 38:59
  2000s when they had that outlaw sportsman class and it was like
• 39:03
  Mike Molizer and the Streamys were in that mix and you had
• 39:07
  Fort Wayne cars but Ish had it as Capital Speedway and those
• 39:10
  guys would come over from a villa in Fort Wayne to run on
• 39:13
  Sundays with Miracle Cholosky by you.
• 39:15
  They have 30 modifies you to have 30 sportsmen.
• 39:17
  And then you had your super street class that was like Ray
• 39:21
  Bear, Greg Early. And then you had Jimmy Lambert
• 39:25
  coming around from Fort Wayne with that old 33 car and 1618 of
• 39:28
  them. And then they even, you know,
• 39:30
  had a 4 cylinder class of course.
• 39:32
  And but boy, talk about some late nights.
• 39:35
  I'm glad I work nights because sometimes those nights on Sunday
• 39:37
  would run until 1:00 in the morning.
• 39:39
  And I was like, people are like, I'm getting out here and I said
• 39:42
  I can still sleep in and be at work tomorrow night.
• 39:44
  So I'm cool on this. But just some good times for
• 39:47
  racing and like I say, it was kind of cool, like when we did
• 39:52
  that 40 show, you know, we got that lap board, you know, doing
• 39:55
  this for things for the drivers and stuff like that.
• 39:56
  And we got the three to come up from central IN and even kind of
• 39:59
  cool seeing those Ohio wheel man.
• 40:01
  I mean, I only had eight cars, but I mean that was quite an
• 40:03
  experience for them and they had some really beautiful rides.
• 40:06
  You know, just got to get something figured out on the
• 40:07
  rules. But like I say, now the mini
• 40:11
  wedges have picked up and you know, he's seen a lot of kids
• 40:14
  that are, you know, look at Pressler's daughter.
• 40:16
  I mean, I remember her crawling around at the car show.
• 40:19
  A little redhead kid, you know, crawling on the floor and now
• 40:22
  she's they saw her in a prom picture the other night and
• 40:24
  she's going to be racing, you know, be getting into the bigger
• 40:26
  cars. And it's like, Oh my God, this
• 40:28
  is like a time warp and stuff. And even seeing Dylan and Nick
• 40:32
  strimming when they were like getting Hot Wheels and they'd
• 40:34
  sit with Carl and now, you know, both they were race, they were
• 40:37
  racing and stuff. They're like they are and but
• 40:41
  you know, lots of good times over the racing years and like,
• 40:44
  say, you know, all you can do is just work on what we got
• 40:46
  presently going on and like you lose, you're up at Kalamazoo,
• 40:50
  Buju's jumped, you know, bouncing over the place there
• 40:52
  and stuff. And we're doing the central IN
• 40:54
  stuff and Winchester and it's tough sledding right now.
• 40:58
  The weather can be sold. I mean, you read, you look at
• 41:01
  the weather forecast and it's already saying 53 for Saturday.
• 41:04
  And I was like, Oh my God, well, this is going to be a cold 1.
• 41:07
  And it gets in everybody's mind and they got to announce the
• 41:11
  weather every time they get a chance on TV or the radio just
• 41:13
  to get their hits. And you know, how many times
• 41:16
  have they been wrong? But and then the rain outs, you
• 41:19
  know, so many track owners, you know, they see a 10,000 to
• 41:22
  12,000 purse and you got this rain race forecast going to be
• 41:25
  rain. And it's like, boy, do we roll
• 41:27
  the Dykster, don't we? And you know, like, say with
• 41:30
  Randy calling it on Friday night and that was a good call because
• 41:33
  it did rain. And sometimes people call it and
• 41:35
  it's a sunny day and everybody can't wait to show that pitch
• 41:38
  with the sun out. That's what you what?
• 41:40
  You know, damn if you do and damn if you don't.
• 41:42
  But, you know, you got to have insurance, you got your safety,
• 41:44
  you got all your food prep, your time, driver's time.
• 41:48
  And what do you do? But like I say, new Paris this
• 41:52
  Saturday with that trifecta series and say that limited lake
• 41:56
  class, you know, they got a dandy payoff for that.
• 41:58
  So hopefully they can get about 12 or 14 cars for that.
• 42:01
  I know the modifiers are still off this week, I believe.
• 42:04
  I think they're at Owosso. I think they're race in
• 42:06
  Saturday. So Mike the Gatton was even
• 42:08
  talking about he might be heading over there.
• 42:09
  But I know he smells new Paris money whenever there's new Paris
• 42:12
  race because he always does pretty good.
• 42:14
  But hopefully, you know, I get 10/12/14 of those mods and the
• 42:18
  street stocks. You know, they just got to get
• 42:20
  their cars out, as simple as that.
• 42:22
  And you know, the the money's right there and you know, that's
• 42:26
  all I can do is offer the show and have them guys show up.
• 42:29
  When I think the the street stocks like Nick Sheremi coming
• 42:33
  back to New Paris, that was fun to to see Sheremi on the
• 42:37
  property, which I, you know, I always enjoy watching a Sheremi
• 42:40
  race and, and I know obviously Bobby went over to M40, but you
• 42:45
  know, we'll see what we get on on Saturday.
• 42:47
  You know, we have the three classes, but modifieds.
• 42:50
  I know last year, the first modified race at new Paris,
• 42:54
  someone decided to counter program new Paris on purpose.
• 42:57
  It was intentional and everybody, obviously we won't
• 43:01
  say who, but if you know, you know, and and and that hurt new
• 43:06
  Paris and that big damper on that.
• 43:08
  But you know, they the modifieds that showed up, you know, Ronnie
• 43:11
  Maynard, you know, did an incredible job racing that and
• 43:14
  he proved that throughout, which I mean, we know when he gets
• 43:17
  behind the wheel, he's he's a good one to watch.
• 43:19
  And so hopefully this Saturday doesn't look like any counter
• 43:23
  programming. Everyone's schedule has been
• 43:24
  announced and everyone knows what they're doing.
• 43:26
  So you know, I know with Owosso, right?
• 43:28
  They have that big modified group going on on that Midwest.
• 43:31
  So I know they'll get a bunch and they get a bunch.
• 43:32
  Anyways, that's modified country up there between them and
• 43:35
  Springport. You know, you know, Springport,
• 43:38
  their their St. stocks weren't always the strongest, but you
• 43:40
  know, they had a lot of quality, not so much quantity.
• 43:45
  But then those modifieds came out and that's where I mean, I
• 43:47
  fell in love with modified racing again watching them at
• 43:49
  Springport. So you know, I know they'll put
• 43:52
  on a good show at at new parents.
• 43:54
  I'd like to see fourteen of them, you know, at least, you
• 43:57
  know, maybe more. But I know with a lot of people
• 43:59
  like racing there in the modified so they'll get their
• 44:01
  cars because again, that's modified country.
• 44:04
  So, you know, but that that's where you're mentioning even
• 44:09
  earlier some of the mini Wedge graduates, you know, we had Evan
• 44:12
  on a few weeks ago, you know, he's a mini Wedge graduate and
• 44:15
  then cruise average this past Saturday at New Paris.
• 44:19
  I know he made his his big car debut in a in a front wheel
• 44:23
  drive at the enduro's, but then he also raced at Drew's show and
• 44:28
  unfortunately hit the turn 2 wall coming out during the
• 44:31
  feature. But and that kind of ended his
• 44:33
  night there. But you know, he he did a pretty
• 44:35
  nice job on Saturday at New Paris and then so that is
• 44:39
  exciting to watch him pull in. We had a quite a few new front
• 44:43
  wheel drive racers, Hornets, you know, from a couple of them came
• 44:46
  over from night of destruction. But yeah, the this this Saturday
• 44:50
  should be a good show for the trifecta again, that it's what
• 44:53
  street socks come, you know, because this is its own point
• 44:56
  system. So people want to race the
• 44:58
  trifecta but not commit to new Paris every week.
• 45:01
  There's points for the new Paris weekly racing, and then there's
• 45:04
  points for this trifecta where at the end, I don't remember
• 45:07
  what the bonus will be. I don't know that they've
• 45:10
  announced it yet. I know when they were on the
• 45:11
  show a few weeks ago, Chris and Tracy said they're going to do
• 45:14
  things a little different this year with that.
• 45:16
  But I know at least 1000 to win minimum, you know this race and
• 45:21
  I think the late models and modifieds are 1075.
• 45:25
  I know St. Stocks are 200 to start.
• 45:27
  So you know, there there's some nice money.
• 45:29
  So it'll be, you know who wants to come and play 3 times because
• 45:33
  I this one for the Street Stocks.
• 45:36
  And then flagger boy, I want to say is the second trifecta race.
• 45:39
  And then at the end of September, 20th or 19th,
• 45:42
  whatever that Saturday is, 19th or 20th, it's one of them that
• 45:46
  will be the third leg. So, and I think for the
• 45:50
  Limiteds, this is their first one, then the Sizzler will be
• 45:53
  their second one, and then the third one will be again that
• 45:57
  championship night. And then for the Modifieds, I
• 45:59
  think it's the same same setup. So Flacker Boy is the only one
• 46:02
  that's different because they don't race the Street Stocks on
• 46:05
  Sizzler night. But this will be like 1.
• 46:07
  And then you don't, you know, if you want to just do trifecta,
• 46:10
  you don't have to come back and tell Sizzler night, race the
• 46:12
  Sizzler. We'll also have Outlaws that
• 46:14
  night too, the Supers and unless I'm wrong, I I will look at the
• 46:19
  schedule again, but I if I remember that set up and then
• 46:22
  again championship. Everyone has the same
• 46:24
  championship in September, so which is usually blow out
• 46:27
  weekend, but now they don't do blow out.
• 46:29
  So that's when the trifecta so you don't have to commit to the
• 46:32
  new pairs for the full season race.
• 46:34
  This trifecta. It has its own point system.
• 46:36
  You know, bug took advantage of that last year and I know he was
• 46:39
  on here a little bit Again, congratulations to him.
• 46:41
  Just once he got out front. I'm like the Batmobile has left
• 46:45
  the building and bog mobile. But and it's not even I don't
• 46:50
  even think it's Batman this year, but he is a nice scheme.
• 46:53
  I don't know if you saw that the picture of his lay model.
• 46:55
  Yeah, and his lap times are like him and de Vries were like 13
• 46:58
  thirties. I mean, that's like they'd be
• 47:01
  top eight in a super lay model field there, you know?
• 47:05
  Andrew was so as kind of the opposite.
• 47:07
  So in the Street Stock race, Nick Stremi was the one chasing
• 47:10
  down Andrew. Once Andrew got out front, there
• 47:13
  was some traffic that that Nick had to work through.
• 47:15
  But then, you know, if there was a cautionary thing, things could
• 47:18
  have got interesting. But you know, then it was the
• 47:20
  opposite. Andrew was the one chasing, you
• 47:22
  know, he played the strumming role in that race where he was
• 47:25
  chasing Bug, but Bug was, I mean, he was out selling popcorn
• 47:29
  and pizza and everything else. Everybody caught up to him, but
• 47:34
  that's where he was the trifecta champion last year.
• 47:37
  And I think Austin or Logan is Logan.
• 47:40
  Logan Maynard, I want to say, won the Street Stock even though
• 47:43
  the champion on a regular night was Bobby and then Logan and the
• 47:48
  Late Model. So again, for people who don't
• 47:50
  know the trifecta or drivers who don't know the trifecta, it is
• 47:53
  different. So you know, as much as we'd
• 47:55
  love to see it, new pairs all the time, if you only want to
• 47:57
  commit, you know, to this trifecta series that are I don't
• 48:01
  know the bonus, so don't quote me.
• 48:03
  That's that's a new Paris thing. But I know last year the
• 48:05
  Champions got a bonus for that. So they they're doing something
• 48:08
  different. But the payouts not that bad
• 48:11
  though. So, you know, if you're thinking
• 48:13
  to come down, you only have to commit three times to that.
• 48:16
  Yeah, and hopefully those modified some of those Angola
• 48:18
  guys, OK, we're thinking of Owosso.
• 48:21
  They got 24 pretty good core cars up there.
• 48:23
  They got some other dogs that will be up there.
• 48:26
  And we're going to be AB main special.
• 48:28
  We go to new Paris. We're pretty much in the A main
• 48:30
  no matter what happens. And a lot of guys just rather be
• 48:32
  an A main to sit there and Dink and Dak in the B main get
• 48:35
  wrecked or something and they're bracing for 9th place, get
• 48:38
  caught up in a wreck. And now they got 100 and, you
• 48:40
  know, 60 miles to drive home the with a tour of race car.
• 48:43
  So that'd be interesting too with that Midwest series, you
• 48:45
  know, because they're not really anymore.
• 48:47
  It's more like Wawasso's basically doing it with the
• 48:50
  Kalamazoo and then Berlin, Berlin too.
• 48:52
  And so hopefully a lot of them guys still have those cars and
• 48:56
  want to keep running them. And because I know that they
• 48:58
  were really keen on a schedule, those different tracks.
• 49:01
  And sometimes when a track the series gets dropped, they like,
• 49:04
  OK, we're just, it's not for them just to race the same track
• 49:08
  or something. They'd rather go to a variety of
• 49:10
  tracks. Well, and I think, you know, how
• 49:12
  many Ohio cars can we get, you know, 'cause there's quite a bit
• 49:15
  of Ohio modifieds that are kind of homeless right now, so.
• 49:18
  Yeah, Lorraine out and Sandusky out too.
• 49:21
  And so it's how many of those guys come out, you know, with
• 49:25
  hot shoe moving to Kalamazoo this year too, it's like, could
• 49:28
  that impact, you know, how many acts should go, you know, maybe
• 49:31
  would make that trip to Owosso versus maybe they'll go over to
• 49:33
  new Paris? Because with hot shoe not at
• 49:35
  Owosso now you don't do they feel like they have to get as
• 49:38
  many laps in there to get the car tuned in for that huge race
• 49:41
  because now it's it's not there. So yeah, I, I don't know what to
• 49:46
  expect, but I, I know based on the racing this past Saturday
• 49:49
  and it's V eights only on, on this Saturday, but this past
• 49:53
  Saturday, if that's any indication of what it could be
• 49:55
  this weekend, you know, I, I hope people give new pairs a
• 49:58
  chance to come out and, and see and I just even the food, they
• 50:02
  have so many new food options this this year, even from the
• 50:05
  deep fried stuff. So if you like deep fried
• 50:07
  anything like Twix and I forget what the other candy thing was.
• 50:12
  I mean, there's so many options. So you know, if you don't come
• 50:15
  to often new new pairs, at least give them a chance this weekend
• 50:18
  because with the V eights there, you know, I know it's a $20
• 50:21
  ticket, so $5 more than normal, but if you knew the payout, you
• 50:25
  know, like that 5 bucks still isn't probably going to cover
• 50:28
  everything. It's a solid payoff.
• 50:30
  Plus you can still bring the grill, the cooler, you know,
• 50:32
  anything else and do it a cookout and everything else.
• 50:35
  And you can get a Volcano pizza, you know, so done a few times.
• 50:40
  I get frustrated sometimes when people go.
• 50:41
  Where's the crowd? OK well, they're sitting in
• 50:44
  their cars. They're you know, that's the
• 50:45
  thing that I think hurt hurts New Paris in a good way, is that
• 50:49
  people can literally sit in their cars and and watch the
• 50:52
  rainfall around you. People who are sitting on top of
• 50:54
  their trucks out in the parking lot.
• 50:56
  You know, you can Someone was drilling across the way that
• 50:59
  yeah, sometimes the bleachers may not look full, but it I
• 51:02
  promise you it's not like empty. They're they're sitting in their
• 51:05
  cars and there's tons of people under me that my camera wouldn't
• 51:08
  catch because there's too much in the but and then I always go,
• 51:12
  where were you? You know, like it's one of those
• 51:14
  you're on Facebook commenting. Where's the crowd?
• 51:17
  Well, where are you? You're commenting on Facebook.
• 51:19
  So obviously you're not at the track.
• 51:20
  So just shut the hell up, you know, kind of deal.
• 51:22
  Like no one even. When they did those one-on-one
• 51:25
  spectator races years ago and it'd be like 100 people in the
• 51:29
  stands, last race is done, then they get the spectator racers
• 51:31
  out there and all of a sudden another whole whoops, another
• 51:34
  whole group of people just show up.
• 51:35
  You know, it's like, Oh my God, where these guys come out of,
• 51:37
  you know, they were sleeping in their sleeping bags or something
• 51:40
  and up along the fence and hitting it and everything else
• 51:43
  and how simple those cars would make it around the track.
• 51:46
  I just looked at the wheels and then I'm like, my God, I can't
• 51:48
  even get my car to start and it's got four wheels that roll
• 51:51
  and some of these things look like they're about had it and
• 51:53
  they're just running around the track and everything else, you
• 51:55
  know? Well, I know Boozer's been quiet
• 51:58
  and I think he's about the burst from the scenes if he doesn't, I
• 52:03
  know he has a lot of names and he wanted to throw at you to get
• 52:06
  some stories. And this is just a reminder that
• 52:09
  I do want to remind everyone and I see, well, I'll do 2
• 52:11
  reminders. So Chris, Harry got in here from
• 52:14
  Hartford. They do have the throw down this
• 52:17
  weekend for monster trucks if people want to go watch monster
• 52:19
  trucks crush things over there at Hartford.
• 52:22
  They do open next week for weekly racing.
• 52:25
  So for everyone itching for that Hartford dirt and their French
• 52:27
  fries and coke and everything else next week, but monster
• 52:31
  trucks for this week for the throw down.
• 52:33
  And then I didn't want to remind.
• 52:36
  Oh, actually, now that I did that, I forgot.
• 52:39
  Oh, add your questions in the in the comments.
• 52:42
  Certainly, you know, we'll pop them up here.
• 52:44
  So that Drew Drew, Oh my gosh, I cannot talk.
• 52:47
  I all because of that and monster truck thing.
• 52:49
  Thanks, Chris. But anyways, I had my train of
• 52:52
  thought and it went sideways here.
• 52:55
  Derailed. But anyways, you know, pop your
• 52:58
  questions in the comments and everything.
• 52:59
  That way you know Ron can answer them, I think.
• 53:02
  Ron, dump the panel as they call it.
• 53:04
  Yeah, we have probably about 8:40 again.
• 53:07
  Is that when you have? Yeah, I got my hair all prettied
• 53:10
  up already, so I got to do is just jump in the car and go, so.
• 53:14
  Like a 15 minute drive. Yeah, all but 3.8 miles, but
• 53:18
  it's a 15 minute haul. But you know, South Bend is good
• 53:21
  for like you drive to the next red light.
• 53:23
  You can see the light green as you're getting there.
• 53:25
  And just as you pull up, it just decides it's going to turn red.
• 53:27
  Then you sit there and you sit there, and then you go to the
• 53:29
  next one and then the next one. Yeah, So definitely we have a
• 53:34
  little less than an hour with Ron, so it's certainly a lot
• 53:36
  more time to go. But Buju, you have been way too
• 53:39
  quiet for like 30 minutes here. So I think that's probably a
• 53:42
  record, you know, for you and I, you're excited for this.
• 53:46
  So go you've. Talked about the your all the
• 53:52
  great traveling series of the past.
• 53:54
  So instead of going to the past, I'm going to ask you about the
• 53:56
  present. What are the traveling series
• 53:58
  that you're a big fan of these days?
• 54:01
  Oh boy, that's a really good question there, because with me
• 54:04
  with Mclawn, I'm very limited where I can actually go on.
• 54:07
  You know, that's a 320 already. But I would say the high limit
• 54:10
  Sprint series, even the brode of Allah's, they got some really
• 54:13
  good presents on TV. And if you don't have the
• 54:16
  subscription, you can watch it the next day, you know, like on
• 54:19
  on YouTube, the tape delay and watch the races.
• 54:22
  And they've they've been doing a good job with interviews and you
• 54:25
  know, up on the stuff there and the camera works been really
• 54:27
  good. Boy.
• 54:29
  Other than that, I would say probably the stars series is
• 54:32
  pretty good. You got some guys that are
• 54:33
  committed. I mean, like Winchester, they
• 54:35
  had 26 cars there last year. And most of those guys are
• 54:38
  really out of pretty much out of Wisconsin.
• 54:40
  Thank God for the ASA series kind of combining with that
• 54:42
  stars deal and getting some guys come over even from to
• 54:45
  Winchester from that. But those guys are all coming
• 54:47
  from Florida, North Carolina and even, you know, down South, so
• 54:51
  they're doing a lot of hauling just to get up to do them shows
• 54:53
  at Winchester, Toledo. I think Owosso's got that week
• 54:56
  night or weekday show too as well over there.
• 55:00
  Boy, other than series, I had to think about this because they
• 55:03
  don't really cover series like they used to.
• 55:06
  I know that Hell Tour, something else is coming up. 29 races in
• 55:09
  40 days. And we followed that for a
• 55:11
  couple days here and there and that that's that's, that's,
• 55:15
  that's a third. You know, on dirt track, your
• 55:16
  setups, you're going to get dirty doing that and it's, you
• 55:19
  know, so you get to the drive to the next track, you clean up a
• 55:22
  little bit and you're at the track.
• 55:23
  And then it's always been pretty hot.
• 55:25
  It's always a day where it's pretty hot and you're, you know,
• 55:28
  like it just really wears. Yeah.
• 55:29
  You got to make sure you can't just drink pop and candy.
• 55:31
  You got to have some water in your system too, to do that kind
• 55:33
  of stuff. Boy, I mean, All Star sprints.
• 55:37
  I mean, they're starting to do I make the Great Lakes series is
• 55:39
  pretty good. They get over at Hartford All
• 55:41
  Stars. They're starting to just rebrand
• 55:43
  themselves after being away from last year.
• 55:46
  They're a lot more Ohio series base.
• 55:48
  They're going to try to bounce out a little bit there.
• 55:50
  They're great. Oh goodness, Andy's Andy series,
• 55:54
  you know, getting the guys on dirt and kind of get them over
• 55:56
  on the pavement and kind of back and forth there and some of the
• 55:59
  variety there. Goodness, I'm going to say
• 56:03
  that's going to be pretty about most of what I would really
• 56:05
  follow other than just seeing dibbets and stuff on, you know,
• 56:09
  Facebook and stuff like that. And because once we just start
• 56:12
  doing that down South stuff, you're pretty you're pretty
• 56:15
  consumed with the interviews and then the pictures.
• 56:18
  And then if we're doing a lap board and you know, it's just it
• 56:22
  kind of ties it down a little bit, especially, you know, full
• 56:24
  time job too. So it's like you're really kind
• 56:28
  of hindrance in what you can do because I know them guys are
• 56:30
  being built at Kankakee. Come on, bring your books.
• 56:32
  I'm like, man, that's 250 and that's another 320 on top of
• 56:35
  Mclawn. That's a 600 weekend, you know,
• 56:37
  so I'm I'm pretty parched right now just doing a 40 or a
• 56:40
  Hartford Mclawn weekend there. I mean, it's we're talking about
• 56:44
  travel there. You know, earlier, even last
• 56:46
  Saturday night and Bobby said travel is not for everyone.
• 56:49
  They don't a lot of people. It's like, I mean, what Lewis
• 56:51
  does is pretty, pretty damn crazy there.
• 56:54
  And I mean what we're doing, it's like people are just like,
• 56:57
  man, I would never do that. And you don't really see too
• 56:59
  many people that travel more than an hour to a racetrack.
• 57:02
  And that's where you're, you know, like when they get
• 57:04
  promoters and they want to set a show up, try to keep those your
• 57:07
  bases really within 45 miles of the track.
• 57:10
  And how do you market it? Do you do Facebook?
• 57:12
  Do you know, do you do radio TVI don't know if that would work so
• 57:15
  much. Hopefully I have some some
• 57:18
  sponsors get on Lewis's show and do some sponsors on air.
• 57:21
  You know, little clips and stuff about their shows coming up.
• 57:23
  Even for a nominal Vita, people watching know what's going on,
• 57:27
  but that's pretty much about it. I mean, I mean, I know my blonde
• 57:31
  schedule. I'm going to try to piggyback
• 57:34
  Lewis on a couple shows when I'm freed up that way and then try
• 57:37
  to get the 40 and a Hartford two shows there.
• 57:40
  And I mean, I'm trying to try to watch that super modified series
• 57:43
  out of Ohio at 360. Now they're traveling like the
• 57:45
  Wheelman is. And it'll be interesting to see
• 57:47
  if those guys want to do these 220 trips, 240 trips every other
• 57:51
  week or so. It's it's a lot different than
• 57:53
  doing a 30 mile drive. I am be the first to test to
• 57:56
  that. So we do have a question from
• 57:59
  the chat. Scotty Slusher is curious if you
• 58:01
  remember Cindy and Lou's tow vehicle, Cindy and loose Jeremy,
• 58:04
  that would be obviously. Their tow vehicle now I remember
• 58:07
  that hauler. That was the black rollback that
• 58:10
  had the white body on it. I think that was one that Nyery
• 58:15
  had for a while and then Lou got a hold of it, if that's what
• 58:19
  we're talking about there. And that was a big old one.
• 58:21
  I mean, Kirkman had a Rick Kirkman.
• 58:23
  Dick Kirkman had one too, and then Rick had one as well, like
• 58:25
  a rollback. There wasn't too many rollbacks
• 58:27
  up north up here, but that was one of the the haulers that they
• 58:31
  had back in the day. Boy, I'm trying to think any
• 58:35
  nothing else really stood out of anything.
• 58:37
  I remember I got a picture of Lou sleeping one night at South
• 58:39
  Bend on the hauler. I had a picture of him sleeping.
• 58:43
  Melissa Stemis was sleeping one night and I was kind of like
• 58:47
  almost within like a different year or two apart there.
• 58:49
  So I kept I would post that picture.
• 58:51
  Come on Lou, wake up. It's time to race.
• 58:53
  But you might have been. Yeah, you mentioned earlier that
• 58:59
  being so taken back by Dylan and Nick racing now.
• 59:03
  So what are your earliest memories of Dremies racing?
• 59:06
  Now that we're into the on to this generation, even Hayden's
• 59:08
  race, many wedges and so forth. But, well, that's like, what are
• 59:12
  the earliest? Memories of stremies.
• 59:14
  Oh, the earliest memory, like say I was helping Fred Malecki
• 59:17
  and this guy was going through the pits holding the boy and
• 59:19
  there's other, his wife was holding another child.
• 59:21
  And that was Lou asking about getting race cars, asking a lot
• 59:24
  of questions about getting into racing.
• 59:26
  And Fred was like, who is that? And this guy's name is Luke
• 59:28
  Stremi. You know, he's going to try to
• 59:30
  get a stock car and he end up buying Bill Wingate's car
• 59:32
  eventually there for the following year.
• 59:34
  And actually, I think he raced it at Anderson.
• 59:37
  I'm going to say because I wasn't Fort Wayne at ITT.
• 59:40
  I think it was 1981. He took it in a September race
• 59:42
  at went at Anderson for a street stock and there was a silver 53
• 59:46
  there. And I caught a glimpse of it and
• 59:48
  there was about 30 cars on the track.
• 59:49
  And that was like they I said, I think that's Luke Stremi, that
• 59:52
  guy that he just bought. That's a Winggate car.
• 59:54
  And then he won his first race at Kalamazoo the following year
• 59:56
  in a Thunder car class on a Sunday afternoon with the
• 59:59
  supers. And that was 82.
• 1:00:01
  That was, I was 83 for that super mod, so I might have been
• 1:00:04
  82 that he had that car at Anderson for the first ever
• 1:00:07
  race. Then I say then Cindy started
• 1:00:10
  racing. That was kind of funny.
• 1:00:12
  When Cindy would race, she could beat and bang them.
• 1:00:14
  Cars at New Paris mostly had other tracks.
• 1:00:17
  And there the fans would go crazy.
• 1:00:18
  Boy, the minute they retaliated, Oh my God, their fans were ready
• 1:00:21
  to, you know, form a posse and go down there and beat the guy's
• 1:00:23
  butt, you know? But once they shouldn't get away
• 1:00:26
  with murder. But, you know, she had a little
• 1:00:28
  bit more leeway. And I think we're even talking
• 1:00:30
  about that show and that last episode when Steve Teske was
• 1:00:34
  tipped at her and they had a red flag at South Bend there.
• 1:00:37
  And he Steve got out of his car on the back stretch and he was
• 1:00:40
  in turn 4 and he's running across the track.
• 1:00:42
  He's going to take her apart. By the time he got to the car,
• 1:00:45
  he couldn't even breathe. He had tears.
• 1:00:46
  And you know, I was like just huffing and puffing.
• 1:00:48
  And they just hauled him away. And he was like, I'm I couldn't
• 1:00:50
  even, I couldn't even talk after that because he was just, he was
• 1:00:54
  a big boy back then. He was like 220 linebacker
• 1:00:56
  running the 50 yard dash and he he was built for the 10 yard
• 1:01:00
  dash. But I think I even mentioned
• 1:01:02
  that to Steve at the car show one year and he says you would
• 1:01:04
  have to remember that. You know, I said in front of
• 1:01:06
  4000 people too. So it's Tusky, you're out of
• 1:01:10
  here. So that was the deal.
• 1:01:13
  There was Cindy. But yeah, she won her first ever
• 1:01:15
  championship. And you know, Lynch, you know,
• 1:01:18
  ran a lot of new pairs of Plymouth and you know, Montville
• 1:01:22
  Thunder. You know, when the Ralph had a
• 1:01:24
  Southwest Michigan because we're up there with Bobby Rubleski a
• 1:01:27
  few nights and that's when Lou and Cindy were racing up there.
• 1:01:29
  That was another good time too, because he had McLaughlin up
• 1:01:31
  there and Lee Slayton and then he had Andy Bozell coming down.
• 1:01:35
  So he had quite a few talented. And you know what, they didn't
• 1:01:38
  really have a super late model class where they had like kind
• 1:01:40
  of a sportsman class, which is like South Bend's top class.
• 1:01:43
  And he had, you know, like Bobby was in that mix and Chet
• 1:01:46
  Schwischer was in there and Stan Kerry 150.
• 1:01:50
  I used out of the why Jack and Zachary was in that mix, Jerry
• 1:01:53
  Zachary. So they had some pretty good,
• 1:01:55
  pretty good cars back then. It was kind of like that, say
• 1:01:57
  like a limited. And then they had the Bill
• 1:01:59
  Clewell class with the the Thunder car.
• 1:02:01
  Then they had like a pure stock class and Ralph was pulling 90
• 1:02:04
  cars a week. Sometimes we go to Southwest for
• 1:02:06
  a 90 car show, get out of there, then shoot down a new pairs.
• 1:02:09
  Then you'll be able to see the intermission on the, you know,
• 1:02:12
  the rest of the feature races. What class are you surprised
• 1:02:16
  because even the first episode where we had you on a few weeks
• 1:02:20
  ago, you've mentioned a lot of different classes, a lot of
• 1:02:23
  different things for, you know, a lot of these people in this,
• 1:02:26
  you know, race fans now in this generation, they may not know
• 1:02:29
  like the tri-state. Would you talk about in that
• 1:02:31
  first episode? So what class, in your opinion,
• 1:02:35
  what classes kind of come around that you thought, man, this is
• 1:02:37
  really going to take off and then it just died like it went
• 1:02:41
  nowhere or it was over height and like this is going to change
• 1:02:45
  everything and then they did nothing.
• 1:02:47
  Yeah, something I kind of grew up and I didn't follow it early
• 1:02:50
  enough. We think start, we start about
• 1:02:52
  73. My dad and I was ASA, the
• 1:02:55
  basically the ASA late model division.
• 1:02:57
  That's all they had was the one division.
• 1:02:59
  And I mean we would, you know, like a late model is a late
• 1:03:02
  model. I remember Jim Blunt ran one
• 1:03:04
  track one night. The next night he's racing the
• 1:03:06
  Red Bud 400. I mean, you could do that with
• 1:03:07
  the cars. They were just, that was all the
• 1:03:09
  cars were illegal and we would do Toledo, we would do
• 1:03:12
  Winchester and Raceway Park. Then he had Arco, which was more
• 1:03:15
  Wisconsin based, but you know, it was like taking off this,
• 1:03:19
  doing really good. And then next thing you know,
• 1:03:21
  TNN got the series. They're showing those races at
• 1:03:24
  Milwaukee, Saint Paul, IRP, Winchester.
• 1:03:27
  Then it's like, oh, we're going to go to San Antonio, TX and
• 1:03:30
  we're going to go to the Vancouver and I'm like, wow,
• 1:03:34
  this is a lot more travel. I mean, a lot of us are like
• 1:03:37
  we're not going to go that far. I think Charlie Hannah would
• 1:03:39
  have a story with that because he got an ASA car and I think
• 1:03:43
  the first races were rained out and he went to like the I think
• 1:03:46
  San Antonio for a race couldn't even wasn't even in the show
• 1:03:50
  because he took the top guys from points from the year
• 1:03:52
  before. I think the first show was like
• 1:03:53
  in Florida. I mean last well, that was a lot
• 1:03:55
  more traveling what they were used to, and it took about three
• 1:03:58
  years after that and then poof, you know, they tried to go to
• 1:04:01
  like a a restrictive block motor for it and then guys were
• 1:04:05
  accused of Jimmying them up and that and then the series just
• 1:04:08
  went away and then they kind of kicked it back up again a few
• 1:04:11
  years ago and a lot of people. So I thought the ASA was no, no
• 1:04:13
  more. And it's like, well, they're
• 1:04:14
  just using the name ASA for a stock looking glass.
• 1:04:17
  But back in the day, my God, he had trickle Mark Martin.
• 1:04:21
  He had LJ lines Bob straight out of floss more.
• 1:04:25
  And then you had your, you know, the Randy sweets and Eddie vent.
• 1:04:28
  You know, Vanderlaan earlier in the days there, John Anderson
• 1:04:31
  from Ohio, Moose Myers roll in and they'd say Jim Blunt would
• 1:04:35
  be in there. Diary jigs Myers, Dave Sort from
• 1:04:38
  Fort Wayne and just Chuck Romeo. I mean, you just had guys from
• 1:04:42
  that. The best of the best would be
• 1:04:43
  there for races and Alec. Kawicki, Rusty, Wallace, all
• 1:04:47
  kinds of names. Yeah, Wallace came in there and
• 1:04:49
  Kawicki and that. I was just, I remember even a
• 1:04:52
  Wisconsin guy would always have that Wisconsin flag at
• 1:04:55
  Winchester. He'd wave it in the stands when
• 1:04:57
  they would do the parade and all that stuff.
• 1:04:59
  And now I remember even a story with ASA was like 7475 Willie
• 1:05:03
  Stutzman's there and he makes the ASA race and all the drivers
• 1:05:07
  are shaking hands with the owner.
• 1:05:09
  And then they kissed a trophy girl.
• 1:05:10
  Well, really runs up and he does his little jog with his arms,
• 1:05:13
  you know, like he's in a hurry. And he walks up to the trophy
• 1:05:16
  girl and he shakes his hand of all things.
• 1:05:18
  And he goes up to the Roger Holdeman and gives him a kiss.
• 1:05:20
  And the fans will fuck. That was just the nuts thing,
• 1:05:23
  you know, I'm like, you know, my God.
• 1:05:25
  Oh my God, Willie. It's just, you know, do we know
• 1:05:27
  him or not? You know, but I don't think
• 1:05:30
  Rodger was expecting that as well with Willie, but quite the
• 1:05:33
  character he was whenever he was racing and you know, then he'd
• 1:05:37
  say he went on to God. Then he was racing the limited
• 1:05:40
  supermods and he bought an Oswego supermod and I was doing
• 1:05:44
  some of the travel shows with ISMA and Pennsylvania.
• 1:05:48
  He's in New York, he's in Canada.
• 1:05:50
  It's still, you know, nothing for him to be at Sandusky,
• 1:05:52
  Mansfield. I mean, he was traveling even at
• 1:05:54
  6568 years old, retired, of course, had a big motorhome, but
• 1:05:59
  always a character in the pits. And he was always a lot of fun.
• 1:06:03
  And, you know, he maybe didn't win a lot of races, but I don't
• 1:06:06
  remember Denny and Irie says, boy, Willie's keeping me in
• 1:06:08
  business because Willie crashes so many cars.
• 1:06:10
  I get to fix them every week. He says that guy just had one
• 1:06:13
  car and didn't bracket. He says, man, he would think
• 1:06:16
  about the money he would have, but he would he would always
• 1:06:18
  have. He had a Grand Marquis car.
• 1:06:19
  He had a super Mod and he'd had the Late Model and they even had
• 1:06:23
  that pace car. If you remember that back in the
• 1:06:25
  day, that 88, that Cavalier was a pace car at South Bend.
• 1:06:28
  It looked like his Grand Marquis car.
• 1:06:33
  Go ahead, Bruju. Can I know you have more so?
• 1:06:37
  Yeah. You so you mentioned those ASA
• 1:06:39
  days and I've become a big fan of those.
• 1:06:41
  I've been watching a lot of early 80s late or ASA races with
• 1:06:45
  Mark Martin and Rusty and Bobby and Bobby Allison.
• 1:06:48
  You'd have Dale Earnhardt dip up.
• 1:06:50
  From the South. And run those ASA races and he'd
• 1:06:52
  get his tail kicked in by those Butch Miller's and Bob Senecres
• 1:06:56
  and those guys are running up here weekly.
• 1:06:58
  Just another great time for racing like you mentioned
• 1:07:00
  earlier. Yeah, and Bobby even raced up in
• 1:07:02
  Minnesota, you know, with ARCO and stuff and they had AI have
• 1:07:05
  an article that was actually put in one of the books this about
• 1:07:08
  last over the last about 3 or 4 months ago.
• 1:07:12
  And they questioned Bobby because he went up to race up at
• 1:07:14
  Minnesota Shakopee and they said why are you doing?
• 1:07:17
  You know the guy says why are you kind of doing this kind of
• 1:07:20
  stuff? And he's like, you know he says
• 1:07:22
  this is this is a lot of racers would love to race against me.
• 1:07:25
  He says I actually like to race against some of these guys
• 1:07:27
  because these are some of the best in the Midwest.
• 1:07:29
  He says, I follow racing like everybody else.
• 1:07:31
  And he says that's a little bit of a drive, but I I can afford
• 1:07:35
  it. And you know, he says it's you
• 1:07:36
  know, my pride might get hurt by getting the Ethernet 10th or
• 1:07:39
  15th, but he says it's still fun.
• 1:07:41
  And he's like, he says, hey, them guys Trickle Reffner, you
• 1:07:46
  know, Schuler's up there and like, say the the Wisconsin
• 1:07:49
  boys, He says, hey, them Joe Shearer Bickel, he says, and
• 1:07:52
  them boys, some pretty good racers.
• 1:07:54
  He says you would have put he put Mike Eddy in NASCAR years
• 1:07:57
  ago and he probably would have been one of the top drivers too.
• 1:07:59
  He says these guys are just as talent as what we were.
• 1:08:01
  He says they we just had the opportunity being down South and
• 1:08:04
  everything was down South. He says you guys are up north.
• 1:08:07
  Not too many guys, you know, made the transgression to go
• 1:08:10
  back down South and do that stuff.
• 1:08:11
  I mean, Butch did and you know, Tony Rains did to a point and
• 1:08:15
  Mark Martin did of course there. But not a lot of northern guys
• 1:08:19
  really transgressed down to the South and really became, you
• 1:08:22
  know, the big NASCAR deal. Now, Carson after last
• 1:08:25
  yesterday, now in the right place at the right time with
• 1:08:28
  NASCAR. It's almost like it's like club
• 1:08:30
  racing. It's like, you know, everybody's
• 1:08:32
  so competitive and you're all about the same speed.
• 1:08:34
  It's just matter who's lucky at the right place at the right
• 1:08:36
  time. And he would have been one more
• 1:08:38
  knocked out tire in that wreck. That would have been it for him.
• 1:08:40
  But you know, he just let's say he was right there.
• 1:08:43
  And I hate to see that comparison to Earnhardt because
• 1:08:45
  the kids still young. He's made a couple moves.
• 1:08:49
  He's won a couple races, but he hasn't won not anything of a
• 1:08:52
  championship at this point with that.
• 1:08:54
  Don't put all that heat on Carson.
• 1:08:56
  You know you're going to expect him to make some kind of silly
• 1:08:58
  move every week. It's like none of that team
• 1:09:00
  ain't going to be able to, you know, they probably say you got
• 1:09:02
  to settle down a little bit here.
• 1:09:04
  You know, we, you know, we got cars, but man, we just can't, we
• 1:09:07
  can't be totaling things every week or anything there.
• 1:09:11
  Yeah, it's it feels very unfair that he gets there in hard
• 1:09:13
  comparison all the time. But it does feel that there's
• 1:09:15
  some sort of buzz around Carson right now.
• 1:09:17
  It does feel like he's kind of becoming the guy in that.
• 1:09:20
  And the crowd went nuts for him yesterday when he was hanging
• 1:09:23
  out the front window out there going down the front stretch.
• 1:09:25
  Yeah, very cool that were the bad boys got out of racing here.
• 1:09:29
  I mean, Kurt Busch, he's not reading the limelight so much
• 1:09:33
  anymore. Kyle Busch, yeah, he's here,
• 1:09:35
  there. He's arguing with his team.
• 1:09:36
  You know, his his owners Morning is you know, because he used to
• 1:09:39
  get kind of mouthy on TV. People like that Harvick be like
• 1:09:42
  a little bit of controversy. You would have he had near calm
• 1:09:46
  guys like Ricky Rudd. I mean they just finished the
• 1:09:47
  race. Terry Labonte.
• 1:09:49
  They would finish the race by the Labonte would finish the
• 1:09:50
  race. He get on Earnhardt and he just
• 1:09:52
  say something that fans would be wow.
• 1:09:54
  I like what he says to those reporters.
• 1:09:56
  I like what he says to NASCAR and Carson's kind of like doing
• 1:09:59
  some things and like say it's kind of like, and this guy's a
• 1:10:02
  little bit of a wild child a little bit.
• 1:10:04
  And he's a little different cut than some of these other guys.
• 1:10:07
  The other guys are almost kind of so prescribed or like set
• 1:10:11
  when they talk and it's like they only there's only certain
• 1:10:14
  hand movement, eye movement and they only want to talk about
• 1:10:16
  sponsors or, you know, Carson's just kind of little more open
• 1:10:20
  and you know, he can ask him something off the key and like
• 1:10:23
  he talks back. And some of these other guys, I
• 1:10:25
  think they kind of struggle to talk.
• 1:10:28
  Yeah. There's there's something
• 1:10:29
  authentic about him. I think you still feel the short
• 1:10:32
  tracks that he came from. He talks and he talked and I
• 1:10:34
  think it was on the Dale Junior show he's on last year that he
• 1:10:36
  was just the kid at Kalamazoo and he still feels like the kid
• 1:10:39
  from Kalamazoo. And I think it shows through and
• 1:10:42
  when, when he's hanging out the front door or hanging out the
• 1:10:44
  front of the car hanging, celebrating his first Cup wins.
• 1:10:47
  Yeah, he kind of like he took that chance because, I mean, he
• 1:10:49
  was still learning the ropes at Berlin racing from Kalamazoo
• 1:10:53
  and, you know, you know, doing this, you know, CRA stuff and
• 1:10:56
  that and having some good runs. And it's like there was that
• 1:10:59
  opportunity to just like put everything on the line and go.
• 1:11:02
  And he could have said, oh, man, let me wait about four or five
• 1:11:05
  years, let me get more season, let me get more settled.
• 1:11:07
  But he's like, let's go and he's making it work.
• 1:11:10
  And you know, it's it's it's high risk, high reward, that's
• 1:11:14
  for sure. They're doing that kind of
• 1:11:15
  stuff. And, and now he's like talk of
• 1:11:17
  talk of the state or talk of the area for sure.
• 1:11:19
  There, but NASCAR needed. This too.
• 1:11:22
  NASCAR needed this kid to win something like that too.
• 1:11:24
  I. Was going to say it was all over
• 1:11:26
  Facebook. I didn't even have to watch and
• 1:11:28
  I knew what I was going on. And I think like, you know,
• 1:11:31
  Chris, you know who I'm sure you saw it in 40.
• 1:11:34
  I mean, she's a huge host, host of our fans.
• 1:11:36
  So I imagine, you know, all of her feelings that were going on
• 1:11:40
  and and she was actually quiet on Facebook.
• 1:11:43
  Buja, I don't know if you saw her.
• 1:11:43
  She's quiet. So people are messaging her and
• 1:11:46
  like, are you OK? Like we would have, you know, a
• 1:11:50
  big burst of energy here online. I do want to do a quick shout
• 1:11:54
  out really quick. We have Will on here.
• 1:11:56
  If you ever want to listen to the Wild Will, I want to make
• 1:12:01
  sure I say it right, Will the Wild will throw down.
• 1:12:05
  You've probably heard him on Pit Rd.
• 1:12:07
  TV. If you watch Speedrome and Salem
• 1:12:09
  and all that, he definitely does a lot down in that area count,
• 1:12:12
  you know, so he sees the convicts down there.
• 1:12:15
  He was at Lorraine last year. For he announced Mclawn for a
• 1:12:19
  year too. Yep.
• 1:12:20
  And him and Herw Adams. Yep.
• 1:12:22
  And definitely if you see him, you know he's always selling
• 1:12:25
  shirts and those go to different proceeds.
• 1:12:27
  So definitely, you know, follow him on social media.
• 1:12:31
  I just saw that he popped in and, you know, to have someone
• 1:12:34
  like him listen to the rewind and watch that, it's like, OK,
• 1:12:37
  wow, that's pretty cool. I mean, he treated me with so
• 1:12:39
  much respect last year at Lorraine.
• 1:12:41
  You know, Pit Rd. TV had the rights to it or no,
• 1:12:44
  it wasn't. It's Painesville because that's
• 1:12:46
  where the Buckeye was. So not Lorraine, but
• 1:12:47
  Painesville. And I heard Top Rd. just as
• 1:12:50
  often as I heard Pit Row. And I'm like, man, you know,
• 1:12:52
  they got the streaming rights here.
• 1:12:53
  I'm just some, you know, I, you know, up in the corner over
• 1:12:56
  here. But he kept doing lots of shout
• 1:12:58
  outs for me and and all that. So again, I just that I'm a big
• 1:13:01
  fan of Will, but I saw that he popped on here.
• 1:13:03
  So I want to make sure that you were talking earlier about Ron
• 1:13:06
  and exposure and everything else.
• 1:13:08
  And he's definitely someone who brings a lot of exposure to
• 1:13:10
  short track racing, especially in central IN.
• 1:13:13
  So definitely someone to go watching and follow online.
• 1:13:17
  And I know he does like pre shows and everything from Salem
• 1:13:20
  a couple times. He's some pre show.
• 1:13:21
  So definitely give him a follow because kind of like Ron, like
• 1:13:25
  with you, you know, he has those stories and he just does so well
• 1:13:28
  on the mic. But I didn't know he was at
• 1:13:30
  Mount Lawn. Yeah, him and Harold did it for
• 1:13:32
  a year and it was that was good. I mean, I, I think we have an
• 1:13:36
  announcer for full time this year.
• 1:13:37
  I'm hoping. I mean, I don't mind announcing,
• 1:13:39
  but you know, kind of takes away from doing photos and stuff.
• 1:13:41
  But it I still get to do my talking out on the infield and
• 1:13:45
  all that good stuff there. But then when he announced, it's
• 1:13:47
  like especially when we had the computer go down and we, you
• 1:13:50
  know, can't relay a whole lot of information.
• 1:13:51
  I just go on a lot of stuff on who's who and kind of go from
• 1:13:54
  there, but it's still kind of cool to do that.
• 1:13:57
  And especially it's like you get all that running around in the
• 1:14:00
  infield taking photos when you announce, you just go up and
• 1:14:03
  down them steps and it's like how many more times I got to go
• 1:14:05
  from the announcers, move down them steps all the way down them
• 1:14:07
  other steps and then onto the track.
• 1:14:09
  But it's still fun and and I'll try to throw bracing terms out
• 1:14:13
  and what I know of history and you know, everybody's got a
• 1:14:16
  different style announcement. You know, they someone I just
• 1:14:18
  read the you know, just exactly what's in front of them and or
• 1:14:21
  some kind of live and you know, you will never hear me scream or
• 1:14:25
  holler on there or anything like that.
• 1:14:26
  And people have a heart attack or anything like that.
• 1:14:28
  Just just kind of like almost like Mr. Bunn up there at
• 1:14:31
  Hartford. I like how his style is.
• 1:14:33
  He just has that hometown name and just subtle, you know, just
• 1:14:37
  says the name and you know, he just he just announces like, you
• 1:14:39
  know, Amsutz was a good one too for that man to there, Jim
• 1:14:42
  Amsutz out of Fort Wayne. I was like, listen to him and
• 1:14:46
  everybody's different how they announced.
• 1:14:47
  So for sure there. Well, next, do you think too
• 1:14:51
  like that? Is that why people navigate
• 1:14:53
  maybe to like we've been talk about Carson, right, You know,
• 1:14:55
  he's just a different different vibe.
• 1:14:58
  Then you know what probably many people mean there for a while.
• 1:15:02
  You know, a lot of people just stepped away from NASCAR and and
• 1:15:05
  I don't I don't watch NASCAR. I just don't have any.
• 1:15:09
  I don't have any desire to watch NASCAR.
• 1:15:11
  I may be weird about that. I just I don't you know, I watch
• 1:15:14
  local racing. I watch all the local people.
• 1:15:16
  I'll keep up with drivers who, you know, I've met Bristol and
• 1:15:20
  other places just to see what they're doing.
• 1:15:22
  But like, I watched the Daytona only because I wanted to see the
• 1:15:25
  MJ stuff. You know, like if you didn't
• 1:15:28
  watch the last dance, you don't know what you're getting into
• 1:15:30
  NASCAR because a pretty motivated guy, he has a target.
• 1:15:33
  You know, he's he's going to do what he can to win.
• 1:15:36
  He's motivated by a lot of different things and he finds
• 1:15:38
  his motivation. So that's the reason why I
• 1:15:41
  watched Daytona, but otherwise I've not watched NASCAR race
• 1:15:43
  since then. Like it just, they're like, it
• 1:15:46
  got to a point where I'm like this, this is boring.
• 1:15:49
  I can do a lot of other things on TV right now, then watch
• 1:15:51
  this. And so, so with that, do you
• 1:15:55
  think even to why some people maybe navigate to certain
• 1:15:57
  announcers? Like I know you've announced and
• 1:15:59
  you get on the mic for Michigan and vintage racers and and you
• 1:16:02
  get storytelling with yours. And so you even present
• 1:16:05
  different than like when you get someone on there who's stats and
• 1:16:09
  stat driven. So do you think maybe that's why
• 1:16:13
  too, you notice in racing people navigating towards like Carson
• 1:16:17
  just because of that vibe? And I wonder and I'm having, I
• 1:16:20
  don't really watch NASCAR religiously by any stretch, but
• 1:16:22
  I see him smiling a lot and I see him with he can see his eyes
• 1:16:26
  and he look at like an awesome Dylan.
• 1:16:27
  He's always got the dark black glasses on and he's got like the
• 1:16:30
  cowboy hat on. And, you know, you don't know
• 1:16:34
  what their eyes, if they're all eyes, they're closed or they're
• 1:16:36
  open. And it's like that, you know,
• 1:16:38
  seeing somebody with their eyes, you can see their eyes and their
• 1:16:40
  facial expressions. It's just like maybe something
• 1:16:43
  different. I could be wrong on all that,
• 1:16:44
  but it's what I've seen, of course.
• 1:16:46
  And he's always psyching. No, no sunglasses on, no dark
• 1:16:49
  glasses and smiling. And he just seems loose for
• 1:16:53
  them. Other guys are kind of like
• 1:16:54
  almost like a robotic, you know? And even when they do an
• 1:16:57
  interview, they know I say you got to take them, take them damn
• 1:16:59
  sunglasses off. You know, at least this is what
• 1:17:01
  the eyes look like, you know, and but it's just like 2, you
• 1:17:04
  know, like the mole people or something.
• 1:17:06
  You know, they talk during that. But that guy that might be too.
• 1:17:09
  And like I say, they've got to get some kind of new flavor on
• 1:17:12
  that race scene and you know, something to keep it going
• 1:17:14
  because some of those guys names are, you know, you watch them
• 1:17:17
  race, but there's really nothing no side stories with them or
• 1:17:20
  anything like that. I mean, Chastain broke a
• 1:17:21
  watermelon on the race track. Some of them other guys that you
• 1:17:24
  know, they do this and that, but I mean, they might talk to them
• 1:17:26
  on a rain delay or something. But like, I don't watch a whole
• 1:17:29
  lot of NASCAR number when they're on.
• 1:17:30
  It's it's like catching up on sleep.
• 1:17:32
  And then the yard yesterday was all, you know, five hours of the
• 1:17:35
  yard work with cutting all the grass, my dad's house and my
• 1:17:38
  house. And you know, then might watch
• 1:17:40
  the tail end of a race or something like that.
• 1:17:42
  But you know, something like you go back to IndyCar, how some of
• 1:17:46
  those drivers were more, you know, Danny Sullivan was one
• 1:17:48
  that people really like to watch mirrors was more talking
• 1:17:51
  calculated AJ people like AJ because, well, he would just
• 1:17:54
  ball them either his crew out or he would ball the officials out.
• 1:17:57
  There's times where Amy, he voices opinion on different
• 1:18:00
  things and you know, some of those drivers are like that.
• 1:18:04
  Then you go to USAC, you know, and then like, say I interviewed
• 1:18:06
  Kaylee Bryson and she's 1. I don't think I've ever seen her
• 1:18:09
  dark sunglasses on at a USAC race.
• 1:18:11
  She's always like smiling and this a fan favorite.
• 1:18:14
  And then she won. Her first one is a USAC silver
• 1:18:17
  crown race, first to bleed 96 laps at Du Coin.
• 1:18:20
  And I interviewed her I was like 5 years ago now.
• 1:18:23
  And then she was like, that was one of her first interviews,
• 1:18:25
  kinda her first pavement race at IRP and real personable kid
• 1:18:30
  McKenna Haas talked, interviewed her at Plymouth when she came
• 1:18:33
  for a race that got rained out from Iowa.
• 1:18:35
  And now, you know, she's making strides and racing and you know,
• 1:18:38
  it's but some people are kind of stoked when they do interviews.
• 1:18:42
  They're kind of like, you know that man just, you know, afraid
• 1:18:44
  to talk or afraid to, you know, kind of trying to talk too
• 1:18:48
  calculated. And that makes it kind of like
• 1:18:52
  like say robotic kind on that form there.
• 1:18:54
  It's kind of hard. Like what do you ask them now?
• 1:18:56
  You know, it's like to loosen them up or something here.
• 1:18:58
  You know, it's always like when we when Rich Bowl would win,
• 1:19:04
  well, he would tell it like it is.
• 1:19:06
  You know, he'd complain about somebody or something or restart
• 1:19:09
  or something. And even Danny Brown, he's
• 1:19:12
  always a good interview too and stuff.
• 1:19:13
  Austin, he was really good. You know, I kind of like when he
• 1:19:17
  would win so damn much. It's like, God, what do I ask
• 1:19:19
  him? What's his hobbies?
• 1:19:20
  What's his favorite food? You know, I'm like, you know, he
• 1:19:23
  does it again. You know, all the Maynards were
• 1:19:25
  like that. But but some of those interviews
• 1:19:27
  were pretty fun and you know, like, say sometimes those guys
• 1:19:30
  got their first ever wins and they're like, you know, Leroy
• 1:19:33
  Luna, like he was a something in the clown and a half me on his
• 1:19:37
  first race and that, you know, and his family celebrating.
• 1:19:39
  And he was just like, like speechless.
• 1:19:42
  And I said, Leroy, you finally won a race.
• 1:19:44
  I mean, you guys are bringing 8-9 cars to the racetrack.
• 1:19:46
  And you know, then he had that one kid that one night won a
• 1:19:49
  race. It was one of the sea mains or
• 1:19:50
  something. His little kid, he's probably
• 1:19:52
  about 5 to 90 lbs and he stood on top of the car man and bands
• 1:19:56
  went pretty crazy over him. But something out of the
• 1:20:00
  ordinary, you just, you know, make it stand out and, you know,
• 1:20:04
  be that, be that person. So talking, so talking about
• 1:20:07
  Carson, making it from the local area all the way to NASCAR,
• 1:20:11
  thinking back, who is somebody that you thought maybe should
• 1:20:14
  have had that big shot but never quite made it out of this area?
• 1:20:17
  Well, you know, you kind of think Nayari, you know, would
• 1:20:20
  have been a possibility there with all the races he won.
• 1:20:24
  You know, like I say, he was just probably northern and Mike
• 1:20:25
  Getty was another one. He was hard charger and ASA and
• 1:20:28
  he never really went to NASCAR And I'm, you know, and I'm I'm
• 1:20:31
  sure he could have had opportunities there.
• 1:20:36
  Boy, like it was good to see David do like what he did there
• 1:20:38
  and Ryan Newman, of course, you know those guys made their marks
• 1:20:42
  there. You know, other guys.
• 1:20:44
  It's you go over the years, maybe Brian Tyler with the
• 1:20:49
  Sprint car racing, you know, maybe you know, go sick and
• 1:20:53
  Bentley Warren, especially with the Super mods them them two
• 1:20:55
  guys there one everything I know go sick went and ran IndyCar a
• 1:20:58
  couple times. Bentley, you know, I don't know
• 1:21:01
  if he ran an IndyCar or not, but I mean he could win in anything
• 1:21:04
  he was in. And sometimes they get, you
• 1:21:07
  know, where they're just really comfortable racing what they
• 1:21:08
  were in and doing stuff there. I mean, Davy Hamilton senior
• 1:21:13
  seen him race Super Maz and knowing him and then he had he
• 1:21:16
  raced some IRL and got in that bad wreck and then that kind of
• 1:21:19
  really hindered his career. And now David Junior is racing,
• 1:21:22
  you know, the Sprint cars. Bobby Santos, he's one that
• 1:21:25
  right now that I mean he's a threat and silver Crown Midget
• 1:21:29
  Sprint, the 500 series and a real hard charger.
• 1:21:33
  I mean, he would be another one. He don't know if he's really
• 1:21:35
  going to want to do the backing to try do a NASCAR thing and
• 1:21:39
  IndyCar. It's really kind of selective.
• 1:21:41
  There's not too many American guys that are really jumping
• 1:21:43
  into that series just the way it's set up anymore.
• 1:21:46
  And you know, the old days with, you know, going to open wheel.
• 1:21:49
  Steve Kins, there was another one he did IROC.
• 1:21:52
  I think he ran one Indy 500 when it was the IRL.
• 1:21:55
  And then that was really kind of about it for him.
• 1:21:57
  And I mean, he won everything you could think of in Sammy
• 1:22:00
  Swindell. He went into the Truck Series
• 1:22:02
  for a couple years. Rico Abreu.
• 1:22:04
  I mean, there's another one that went into the trucks like he was
• 1:22:07
  talking. He said maybe it was a little
• 1:22:08
  bit too early for me to try that and make that work.
• 1:22:10
  And I mean, he's happy with what he's got.
• 1:22:12
  He's got going on the Sprint Series right now.
• 1:22:14
  I mean, he's just a face on. I mean, he even did a thing
• 1:22:16
  about dwarfism on TV couple weeks ago talking about that.
• 1:22:21
  One of the most personal drivers.
• 1:22:22
  You think, oh, my government, no one's going to be able to talk
• 1:22:24
  to him and he's just as personable as anybody else out
• 1:22:26
  there in that the Sprint car deal.
• 1:22:29
  So you know. I almost think we see less of
• 1:22:34
  NASCAR being the final destination now with like you
• 1:22:37
  mentioned the High Limit series earlier in the exposure they get
• 1:22:39
  on flow and the other TV opportunities that they get.
• 1:22:42
  And you have the car Stewart, who has those same opportunities
• 1:22:45
  now. And you mentioned ASA and I I
• 1:22:48
  with the Cup series being such a tough road to climb and NASCAR
• 1:22:52
  not even necessarily in such a stable environment all the time.
• 1:22:57
  I don't I think maybe these local tour, not necessarily
• 1:22:59
  local touring series, but these touring series might become more
• 1:23:02
  of a main destination for like the Rico a Brews and the Bobby
• 1:23:06
  Santos, you know, the the Jonathan Davenports of the world
• 1:23:09
  where they never go. They're never makes NASCAR.
• 1:23:11
  But I feel like these traveling series that they almost feel
• 1:23:13
  like they are their own mini NASCAR's like that ASA we had.
• 1:23:17
  Back in that it's busy, expensive.
• 1:23:19
  I mean, so many times you watch a Grand National event and I
• 1:23:23
  rarely do. Maybe early in the year, half
• 1:23:25
  the cars don't have one sponsor on them.
• 1:23:27
  And I'm going to how these guys, this is just a car number and
• 1:23:30
  they're trying to make a race and like, Oh my God, this is
• 1:23:33
  like putting everything in in in one bundle to try to make a
• 1:23:35
  race. And they're going to probably
• 1:23:37
  get 26th or 28th out of it and 24th no matter what they do.
• 1:23:41
  And it's like, man, there's this not enough sponsorship going on
• 1:23:45
  and it's just just, it's just like they're all there.
• 1:23:49
  It almost looks like a like a new race car.
• 1:23:51
  Like early in the season, they got a number on it and then they
• 1:23:53
  might race one or two other races.
• 1:23:55
  And then that's really about it. And like, say it, it's such a
• 1:23:58
  different thing with that NASCAR stuff, the licensing and then
• 1:24:02
  all the stuff that they there's so many restrictions and so many
• 1:24:06
  things he got to go through and like, say Carson made it where
• 1:24:09
  he's at right now. Hopefully that will open the
• 1:24:10
  door for other guys to kind of think about that.
• 1:24:13
  You know, like they got Chandler Smith, you know, some of those
• 1:24:15
  guys with that run the the car series, Jeff Fultz.
• 1:24:18
  I mean, they done some dabbling here and there.
• 1:24:20
  But you know, the next big thing with NASCAR they I mean there's
• 1:24:24
  going to be some other guys that's going to be calling in
• 1:24:25
  after a couple more years now. And then there's going to be
• 1:24:27
  they're going to need another to keep this 38 car field and they
• 1:24:30
  got to get some 38 guys, 36 guys to show up weekly to make it
• 1:24:34
  work. And sometimes it's like you see
• 1:24:37
  them stands. I mean, we see stands at local
• 1:24:39
  tracks with 200 people in them, 203 hundred, 400 people.
• 1:24:42
  And you look at NASCAR, some of the races and it's like, wow,
• 1:24:45
  there's the main Bristol used to be a waiting list forever for
• 1:24:49
  tickets. And now you look there and you
• 1:24:50
  can see about anywhere you want and everything has its time and
• 1:24:54
  everything. Things go up and they go down
• 1:24:57
  and you know, Indycars trying to do different things to make the
• 1:25:00
  500 bigger and they said they got, you know, place is almost
• 1:25:02
  like a sell out again this year. They need to make that happen at
• 1:25:05
  Iowa when they were doing think something there and they need to
• 1:25:07
  make it happen when they do other venues and other times
• 1:25:11
  other shows. It's like on those Rd. courses,
• 1:25:14
  no, they're interesting with all the camera angles, but you could
• 1:25:17
  even tell we're. I mean, when I watch that, I
• 1:25:19
  don't even know what tell turn 56713 is.
• 1:25:22
  It's just like you just see another turn and two cars race
• 1:25:24
  and then that's it. And then there's a wreck and the
• 1:25:27
  only time there's passing is when they're in the pit area
• 1:25:29
  getting a pit stop and then there's a swap of spots.
• 1:25:32
  There's really nothing on track because it's so narrow.
• 1:25:35
  And yeah, it's just, it doesn't make it fun.
• 1:25:38
  Like I said, when you watch a race at Winchester and it's
• 1:25:40
  like, my God, it's the speed. Like when you were down there
• 1:25:43
  for the sprints last year and they had some wrecks and you
• 1:25:46
  just get to see the speed up close and it's like, man, these
• 1:25:48
  guys are hauling the mail, you know?
• 1:25:50
  And then when they get wrecks, it's like, wow, they they tear
• 1:25:53
  some stuff up pretty good. And I mean, that makes it look
• 1:25:56
  like wow, some a wow factor to it and.
• 1:26:00
  Something I never realized about Winchester until I was down
• 1:26:02
  there. I mean, obviously the banking is
• 1:26:04
  insane. Standing in the infield, it's
• 1:26:05
  looking, it looks like you're looking at A2 story building and
• 1:26:08
  you're looking at the bank standing from the infield.
• 1:26:10
  But the track, how uneven it is, I mean, it dips all the way
• 1:26:14
  around character. I love that type of stuff in a
• 1:26:18
  racetrack. I mean, it's been a racetrack
• 1:26:19
  since, what, 1911? Modus racing oldest half mile,
• 1:26:25
  you know, Dayton was up there with it, but then Dayton closed
• 1:26:27
  up but Holdeman had it and the drivers were complaining about
• 1:26:32
  some spots they were bottoming out because he'd see that the
• 1:26:34
  the titanium sparks or the frames, you know, when they're
• 1:26:37
  doing the the Thunder show. So Holdeman says I'm going to
• 1:26:39
  repave the place. They repave the to have it
• 1:26:42
  smooth. And I think it was a 5 Figure 4
• 1:26:46
  figure paving job thing was like 2224 thousand could be wrong
• 1:26:50
  right in that range. And the guys went on it and they
• 1:26:52
  said this is way too fast. Wait, there's too much grip.
• 1:26:55
  This is wait, we're not going to race tonight and even canceled a
• 1:26:58
  Thursday night show because of the Midget drivers are like
• 1:27:01
  we're not this is we want to be able to, you know, get back home
• 1:27:05
  tonight after this race. And they felt it was so quick,
• 1:27:08
  so twitchy. And so they re they tore it up
• 1:27:11
  and they repaved it again to make it a little bit slower, I
• 1:27:15
  guess would be the word. But I would have hated to drive
• 1:27:18
  down there for that race and then see that happen.
• 1:27:20
  But I remember they were like, you know, then they're talking
• 1:27:22
  about the dangers of speed and everything.
• 1:27:24
  And you know, that's when they're that's where they're
• 1:27:26
  having some bad wrecks there and stuff.
• 1:27:28
  And you know, those open wheel cars.
• 1:27:30
  That's when Robbie Stanley passed away in that time frame
• 1:27:33
  with a wreck there at Winchester, Vogler at his really
• 1:27:36
  bad deal at Salem leading the race and the car got up into the
• 1:27:39
  fence and severe, severe head injuries.
• 1:27:43
  It took his life and he was going to do an NASCAR the next
• 1:27:45
  day. Pocono.
• 1:27:46
  He actually came back to Salem and then that happened during
• 1:27:49
  Waltz fire at Winchester. So I mean, it's like that's why
• 1:27:52
  they say a lot of open wheels don't want to go there because
• 1:27:54
  it's like that the the chance of a really bad wreck.
• 1:27:56
  And 500 they kept saying we want to get Sprint cars there and 500
• 1:28:00
  series, like Nah, I don't know, I don't know.
• 1:28:02
  Then they finally said we'll do it.
• 1:28:04
  They put a big purse up and then we had 26 cars for that show and
• 1:28:07
  they did tear some cars up. They had that three car tangle
• 1:28:10
  and one and two couple of guys got in the wall.
• 1:28:12
  One guy had an axle brake going into one.
• 1:28:14
  I think they had nine cars finished out of that 26 field
• 1:28:18
  and they're coming back this year.
• 1:28:20
  I mean, the silver crowns were there and they they're just as
• 1:28:22
  quick, if not, you know, with the smaller motor, but they're
• 1:28:25
  like doing 142 down the straight.
• 1:28:27
  But those cars a little bit bigger, wider stable, they're
• 1:28:30
  almost like tanks going around and it just that they hear those
• 1:28:33
  cars. The motors are those things
• 1:28:34
  coming off the corners. That small block just making
• 1:28:36
  that sound is like a pretty awesome sound right there.
• 1:28:39
  IRP is another good track to hear those cars with that motor,
• 1:28:42
  you know, and there's some horsepower going on there.
• 1:28:45
  So you talk talk about Winchester and its age and its
• 1:28:48
  character, and Mount Lawn is obviously a track that certainly
• 1:28:51
  has its own character. What do you what are some other
• 1:28:53
  tracks that I have, some unique challenge, maybe even tracks
• 1:28:56
  that aren't around anymore, that maybe had unique challenges that
• 1:28:59
  you don't necessarily see so much?
• 1:29:02
  Boy, boy, I'm going to say, you know that Gorky Park in
• 1:29:05
  Pennsylvania? It's it's on YouTube and it's a
• 1:29:07
  flat. It reminds you of a Mountville
• 1:29:10
  and they had the modifieds. They ran until 1986.
• 1:29:13
  There was like 0 banking at that track and he'd go on YouTube and
• 1:29:16
  they had like the modifieds in the 80s.
• 1:29:18
  They had the old dirt modifieds with slicks on them, the dirt
• 1:29:22
  bodies. They had the newer Cavalier
• 1:29:23
  style. Then they had the homemade
• 1:29:24
  stuff. Like you'd see a Butler kind of
• 1:29:26
  like that Mahoming Valley Speedway where it was a lot of
• 1:29:29
  turns and it was just a flat track that the grains.
• 1:29:33
  I mean, the insurance would have seen that track now they would
• 1:29:35
  have said there's no way you guys are going to race here
• 1:29:36
  because the of the fencing was only I think just like 12 feet
• 1:29:40
  high tire could have went over to fence and probably wiped out
• 1:29:43
  a few people there. But that was a unique looking
• 1:29:46
  track. Boy, going over the years, you
• 1:29:50
  know, Kalkona, Wisconsin Nationals, a 5/8 big, big track
• 1:29:54
  that was that was a lot of speed at that track up there.
• 1:29:57
  And they do some shows on the 5/8 and they got a smaller inner
• 1:29:59
  track. Ileana was a unique track in a
• 1:30:01
  sense that it was flat and it was 1/2 mile flat.
• 1:30:05
  Then they had that drag strip quarter mile on the inside that
• 1:30:08
  the Pure Sox would run in the Fort Mill drives.
• 1:30:11
  But that was the very little passing.
• 1:30:14
  They had the sprints there and they had the radar gun and they
• 1:30:17
  were going 145 down the straightaway there.
• 1:30:19
  They were just whipping. And that night it was the
• 1:30:21
  humidity was just right where you could see the vapor trails
• 1:30:23
  when they would go by. Plus the stands were pretty
• 1:30:26
  close to the the the fence and you could feel that when they
• 1:30:29
  would go by, you'd feel that wind gush, you know, like the
• 1:30:32
  kicking of the wind and everything go by.
• 1:30:34
  And you know, they had about 6-7 shows there and stuff and but so
• 1:30:38
  flat. I mean, we had the vintage cars
• 1:30:40
  there guys are like that's, that's a fast track, but man is
• 1:30:43
  that flat. You know you did, you don't want
• 1:30:44
  to go. You know, all they were doing
• 1:30:46
  his pass was just RIP the guy in the inside enough he knocked him
• 1:30:49
  loose and he goes up high and then you whip underneath him.
• 1:30:51
  I don't think I saw 5 outside passes there all night.
• 1:30:54
  But yeah, another unique looking track there, kind of going
• 1:30:58
  through the going through my cabinet.
• 1:31:00
  Galesburg's another really flat track.
• 1:31:02
  A lot of character. And then they have those fence
• 1:31:03
  pulsed out in the back and that Creek and everything.
• 1:31:07
  I going down St. Mclawn.
• 1:31:08
  That's pretty unique there. Yeah.
• 1:31:13
  Westchester was a nice half. Columbus was another one that
• 1:31:17
  was like almost like a big circle too.
• 1:31:18
  It was like 1/3 mile, very similar to that Mahoming.
• 1:31:22
  Like a like a big Mahoming Valley.
• 1:31:24
  Yeah. Another cool track back in the
• 1:31:27
  day. It's only really see it on TNN.
• 1:31:29
  I wasn't there in person ever. Was a Syracuse Mile and they
• 1:31:32
  would have the award of outlaw sprints there and they were
• 1:31:34
  going like I think 146 down the straightaway and they were doing
• 1:31:38
  some airfoil things with their wings and stuff like that to try
• 1:31:40
  to flatten the wings out and some ultra speed dirt.
• 1:31:43
  Late models at Duquoin, Charlie Schwartz, it was 86, he did a
• 1:31:48
  202485 lap, I think it was on a mile track and that was 146
• 1:31:55
  miles an hour, 144 average. And that was with the big
• 1:31:58
  spoilers that track there, those were horsepowered cars with the
• 1:32:02
  big spoilers. And that track was it was very
• 1:32:06
  it wasn't really tacky by any stretch.
• 1:32:08
  So it was a slightly come down the straightaway and you hear
• 1:32:10
  that the motors just like then they were blowing a lot of
• 1:32:12
  motors that day because it was pretty hot.
• 1:32:14
  But you talk about that, but I was like, wow, these guys are
• 1:32:16
  really hauling and Charlie Schwartz is like, this is the
• 1:32:19
  fastest I've ever gone in a in a late model.
• 1:32:21
  So that was a pretty cool time in there.
• 1:32:23
  Then you go look at Eldora, you know, 12 seconds, 1260, they're
• 1:32:26
  going with a half mile all the way around a track floor in it.
• 1:32:29
  And when you go there and you watch a race, it's like, wow,
• 1:32:31
  these guys are they're really, really moving pretty good there.
• 1:32:35
  That's always a cool experience there.
• 1:32:38
  So one more thing I wanted to ask you about was rivalries.
• 1:32:40
  What are your what are your favorite some of your favorite
• 1:32:43
  local rivalries looking back through the.
• 1:32:46
  Head boy, I would have to say, you know, going back, it'll be
• 1:32:48
  Larry Zent Nyery in like 85 when New Paris reopened and they
• 1:32:54
  would that was going on till about 90 because then Danny kind
• 1:32:56
  of got out a little bit and then that's when Zent and then that's
• 1:32:59
  kind of the Super late that Gold Cup series kind of evaporate.
• 1:33:02
  I think Danny was done after 88 doing the Super lates.
• 1:33:05
  I'm a couldn't right in that time frame, but that was a
• 1:33:07
  rivalry. Then people, you know, Zent was
• 1:33:09
  always one. Either they're either you love
• 1:33:11
  them or you hate them. Danny, everybody loved them.
• 1:33:13
  They didn't really thought Danny was a dirty driver or anything.
• 1:33:15
  He was a white Zen. He's always got all the money
• 1:33:17
  and he's always this and that and that was always a good time
• 1:33:20
  for racing there at that time. Boy Asai, remember buddy of
• 1:33:27
  mine, Rusty were going to go up there for a race and we got the,
• 1:33:31
  we got there kind of late because we had a car problem out
• 1:33:33
  front of the house. Starter decided to go out.
• 1:33:35
  We got up there a little bit late, but Fred Campbell's mom
• 1:33:38
  sits on the top row and she always reserves about 10 or 12
• 1:33:40
  seats for somebody that shows up.
• 1:33:42
  Luckily we got there and she had two seats available.
• 1:33:45
  So we sat there and Mike Getty, I mean, he's just out of
• 1:33:48
  calling, you know, two hours, hour and a half away.
• 1:33:51
  Senator racing for the win. And Senator got spun out by
• 1:33:55
  Eddie and that was about four laps to go and Eddie wins the
• 1:33:57
  race. And boy, he got out of the car
• 1:34:01
  and they were booing them. I mean, I don't think they had
• 1:34:03
  about 10 people cheering for him.
• 1:34:04
  Everybody else is booing them. And then he's got to shake his
• 1:34:06
  first and wave the flag in the air, which even stirred people
• 1:34:08
  up even more than Senator. Truce kind of getting a little
• 1:34:11
  bit excited about it. And then the announcer and he
• 1:34:14
  was talking and he said that's just racing.
• 1:34:16
  He was in the way anyways, and they actually had to escort
• 1:34:20
  Eddie out of there with police so he can get out of the track
• 1:34:22
  because they're all parked in the infield and Eddie's like
• 1:34:25
  that crowd there. He's that was that's not the
• 1:34:27
  place to spin out Seneca. But he says, but we were racing
• 1:34:29
  hard and that had to happen, you know.
• 1:34:31
  And so that was always a good rivalry there with them guys.
• 1:34:34
  I mean even the Butch Miller, you know, he was always good
• 1:34:38
  with rivalries, friendly rivalries and stuff.
• 1:34:40
  Kalamazoo back in the day and spent spare intact was always
• 1:34:44
  good with Denny for for years spirals and that was Kalamazoo,
• 1:34:47
  the local guy and Denny they would go back and forth a lot of
• 1:34:50
  feature wins over the time frame.
• 1:34:55
  Boy, and I'm trying to think back in any other time frame,
• 1:34:58
  even like kind of like supers. It was always Sonyer at Sandusky
• 1:35:03
  was always very successful and Bentley even on the track for a
• 1:35:06
  couple years and the New York guys and they always that
• 1:35:09
  rivalry, the Ohio guys versus the New York guys would roll in
• 1:35:12
  with the ISMA series and that. And you know, that was always
• 1:35:16
  sometimes the Sandusky guys kind of thought, Hey, this is our
• 1:35:18
  track, you know, Shulick and them and Sonya and then those go
• 1:35:22
  sick and, you know, Abold and Bentley would come in and win
• 1:35:25
  the race. And, you know, they always had
• 1:35:27
  the fans saying you should have taken that guy out.
• 1:35:29
  You know, I was like, well, we really don't do that kind of
• 1:35:31
  stuff with supers. You really you just race hard
• 1:35:33
  and you know, and the best guy wins.
• 1:35:38
  That's really about it. Now don't we have Drew Evans and
• 1:35:41
  M and at down at Mclawn now where there's been some contact
• 1:35:45
  with them guys a couple times in the last couple laps and, and
• 1:35:48
  minute won a race and some people were yelling at him and
• 1:35:52
  the car owner Brian yelled back at the fans.
• 1:35:54
  And that was I think I started and stopped that interview like
• 1:35:57
  4 different times. And then I had to just keep
• 1:35:59
  covering the mic up. But because Travis was down
• 1:36:01
  there that night and I said we can't I, I told you, I said we
• 1:36:04
  can't get started until this these people settle down here.
• 1:36:06
  We're going to have all kinds of profanity on our track
• 1:36:09
  microphone. So we had to be careful with
• 1:36:11
  that one there. And but it was all in fun.
• 1:36:15
  I mean, if they're parked right across from each other, just
• 1:36:17
  heated rivalries, this, you know, all they're they're
• 1:36:19
  racing, you know, putting on people getting stands, get
• 1:36:21
  excited about that. That's really about the most of
• 1:36:24
  the time. I really seen something going
• 1:36:26
  on. I mean, Stovall in Fort Wayne
• 1:36:28
  that we thought he was the Golden Boy because he came into
• 1:36:30
  the Moose Myers ride and, you know, always had everything
• 1:36:33
  preset. So anything Stovall Scott did is
• 1:36:35
  that everybody was going to Boo him because they thought he's
• 1:36:37
  just not he's not Moose. And then they were like he
• 1:36:40
  forced moose out of that car and now moose was going to get out
• 1:36:42
  of racing anyways. And so if stole ball one, it
• 1:36:45
  didn't seem to matter. Even Zent sometimes he went to
• 1:36:47
  Fort Wayne didn't seem to matter.
• 1:36:48
  There's still a boom anyways. And but I mean, Larry put a lot
• 1:36:53
  of money, you know, put out a lot of money, national serve all
• 1:36:56
  and he sponsored a lot of shows and stuff.
• 1:36:58
  But no matter what how you do that, it's kind of like with
• 1:37:01
  Trump matter what you do sometimes it just ain't going to
• 1:37:03
  people just ain't going to agree.
• 1:37:04
  You're just going to want to bicker about it and stuff there.
• 1:37:07
  One thing I wanted to ask, and I know we're getting tight on time
• 1:37:10
  here, it's 833. So just to kind of do like a
• 1:37:12
  time check, but you have the Michigan vintage shirt on for
• 1:37:19
  facing. So do you want to talk a little
• 1:37:20
  bit about, you know, you, you talk about all these names, you
• 1:37:23
  talk about Stutzman, I mean, and all these different types and
• 1:37:26
  you do a lot with the vintage racer.
• 1:37:28
  So do you want to talk a little bit about how you got into
• 1:37:30
  vintage race, like the vintage racers and, and what you do with
• 1:37:34
  that group, what that group's about where they travel, why
• 1:37:37
  they travel there or what the goal is?
• 1:37:39
  I know obviously Yorks are a big part of that, but you're kind of
• 1:37:43
  like voice and and I think president or something of some
• 1:37:47
  role within their group, right. So if you want to talk a little
• 1:37:50
  bit about Michigan and vintage racers.
• 1:37:52
  Yeah, we started that I believe in 2000 and we had Pat wanted to
• 1:37:56
  get some guys together. They had a show at M40 with the
• 1:37:59
  Super mods and I brought my books and got talking to Pat
• 1:38:02
  then and he's like, I'm looking at starting a vintage group,
• 1:38:04
  would you be interested? And I go, well, I don't have a
• 1:38:05
  car, but I got the books, you know, that'd be a start there.
• 1:38:09
  And I said I could maybe even write stories if it came to it.
• 1:38:12
  And so we had their first shows. We had like 5 shows the first
• 1:38:15
  year and we had about 8/10/12 cars.
• 1:38:18
  Guys would come from Illinois, Wisconsin, a couple from down
• 1:38:21
  from Wisconsin, a little bit on the southern end of it, couple
• 1:38:23
  guys from Ohio, most of Michigan, Indiana.
• 1:38:26
  We start broadening out. I think we've been to 30, some
• 1:38:29
  30, about 3233 tracks over the years.
• 1:38:32
  And this year we have Shoals, let's see, it's going to be
• 1:38:37
  Plymouth, New Paris, Kale no Kalamazoo.
• 1:38:40
  This year, we're going to have Corrigan oil up in Lansing and
• 1:38:44
  we're meet now, we're on the schedule for Winchester.
• 1:38:46
  Hopefully you get some guys that come down there for that and
• 1:38:50
  then that is really going to be our shows this year.
• 1:38:54
  We got nothing planned for Angola this year.
• 1:38:56
  We have been there usually Labor Day weekend and we've had as
• 1:38:59
  many as 10/11 shows a year and as few.
• 1:39:02
  I think one year we had four with all the rain outs and it's
• 1:39:04
  just a bunch of guys that used to race or have interest in
• 1:39:08
  racing. They found a vintage car or they
• 1:39:10
  replicated a car and just want to take exhibition laps.
• 1:39:15
  We don't really run for. We don't get any money.
• 1:39:18
  We just get 2 free pit passes. Cindy and Mary Peters, they do.
• 1:39:23
  They do like a cookout for us and everything there and you can
• 1:39:25
  bring food and have like a good nice turn out there.
• 1:39:28
  We got Mike Bontreger who used to race in that group, Kevin
• 1:39:31
  Snyder, Fred Reed's son-in-law. There's a couple Fred Reed cars
• 1:39:34
  are in that, then the New York's with the either like the Sprint
• 1:39:38
  cars predominantly now Pat did have a vintage Supermod at one
• 1:39:42
  time, a rear engine car and we'll get some other guys that
• 1:39:44
  will dabble down. I think we lost six members in
• 1:39:46
  the last three years with the head cars.
• 1:39:48
  So, you know, we've kind of taken a hit on that, but is this
• 1:39:52
  a group that we just travel around to different shows?
• 1:39:55
  There's the VART group in Ohio, which is just like our group.
• 1:39:59
  Ron Gunnerman is pretty much running that group over there
• 1:40:01
  and they do a lot of shows now down at Shady Bowl.
• 1:40:04
  They do a Thunder series, which they kind of semi race a little
• 1:40:06
  bit and they do just a couple other dirt shows now.
• 1:40:09
  They're kind of limited on what shows they're doing.
• 1:40:12
  And like we'll go. But anyway, we're going to Grand
• 1:40:14
  Rapids actually this year for the Super mod weekend.
• 1:40:16
  So I've been pushing for that for a while and I'm glad we're
• 1:40:18
  going up there because the material I got kind of doesn't
• 1:40:21
  do a whole lot of justice taking it to 40 with super mod Oswego
• 1:40:24
  books. You go up there and people be
• 1:40:26
  like, oh, smokes what you got there.
• 1:40:28
  And so that's going to be cool to be with the Super mods and
• 1:40:30
  just to get this decide on what's going on there.
• 1:40:33
  And let's say so we've been about so spent 2526 years.
• 1:40:37
  I think Pat myself, who Bob Roche, he, he doesn't have a
• 1:40:44
  car, but he's still alive. And Randy Peters, I think that's
• 1:40:48
  it for the people that started that group to still like there's
• 1:40:51
  three of us still alive from that original deal there.
• 1:40:54
  And we have said we lost a lot of members.
• 1:40:55
  A lot of them guys were like in our 60s and 70s and this things
• 1:40:58
  happen and you know, health reasons and stuff.
• 1:41:01
  But I bring the books. I announce I only announce like
• 1:41:04
  two or three shows now a year because with Mclawn, it's like
• 1:41:07
  we it's like I try to do the I get to do the new Parish show
• 1:41:10
  for sure. Butlers of Arcs show and I've
• 1:41:13
  made that show the last two years now.
• 1:41:15
  I've missed that for a couple years with Mclawn racing every
• 1:41:17
  other week. It's like we yeah, just try to
• 1:41:20
  make sure I can be at one of the shows.
• 1:41:22
  If we do Corrigan, that's going to be a dandy one there because
• 1:41:25
  that's 180 miles up the Lansing. And then I got Mclawn the next
• 1:41:29
  day and I told Pattice it got to 600 plus week and I just there's
• 1:41:32
  no way I'm going to be able to swing that.
• 1:41:33
  So I wouldn't say I hope for a rain out, but if we do have a
• 1:41:36
  rain out, hopefully it's when we can do a show and do that kind
• 1:41:39
  of stuff there. But we bring a lot of the books
• 1:41:41
  on display and guys talk off the racing.
• 1:41:44
  We do like a cookout meal thing for like pretty much the club
• 1:41:49
  members. And then we get together at Jim
• 1:41:51
  Swain's place right across from Union City.
• 1:41:53
  He lives in Union City, MI. He lived right across from that
• 1:41:55
  where that tornado was at in that up there a couple months
• 1:41:57
  ago and they were actually able to see it across the lake.
• 1:42:01
  And then we get together at Mike Bontreger's place.
• 1:42:03
  He's got like a barn. It's got all like a history of
• 1:42:05
  stuff in there and get together and there's about thing about 25
• 1:42:10
  of us basically in that club and it's just fun to like racing
• 1:42:14
  enthusiasts and talk stories up and you know, ways get ways get
• 1:42:19
  other people. I want to get a car sometime and
• 1:42:21
  do this and that and it's like, OK, you know, sometimes it
• 1:42:23
  works, sometimes it don't work. But Tony Lobretto joined our
• 1:42:26
  club. He's got a car and Glen Eamon's
• 1:42:28
  got a car that he had an 85 at New Paris, like a late model.
• 1:42:31
  He's that 48 car wool sharp looking ride.
• 1:42:34
  So I mean, we think the show up new Paris last year, I think we
• 1:42:36
  had a 12 cars there. I think it was.
• 1:42:39
  And you know, we don't need 16 on the track to run.
• 1:42:42
  That can get kind of kind of dice when Angola, we'd have like
• 1:42:44
  2428 cars show up with bark and then we divide them in two
• 1:42:47
  groups. That's still a busy track out
• 1:42:49
  there with those groups. We tried to do the hot rods in
• 1:42:51
  one group and then the slower guys and the other group and
• 1:42:54
  stuff there and we get to talk it up and kids get to sit in the
• 1:42:57
  car and it's it's just history. And, you know, a lot of people
• 1:43:01
  just think that's pretty cool. And it's it's pretty fun.
• 1:43:04
  It's kind of the bittersweet. We know that some people are up
• 1:43:06
  in age and well, he's got some health concerns.
• 1:43:09
  Oh, oh, got to be careful here, you know, and then things happen
• 1:43:11
  and, you know, they pass on and that.
• 1:43:14
  But the great memories with these guys.
• 1:43:16
  And, and, you know, I'm glad Pat started the group when he did
• 1:43:19
  back in, you know, 8990. And because you know, there's a
• 1:43:23
  Midwest group and there was an Ohio group, but never really
• 1:43:25
  there was like a Michigan group. They were kind of disbanded.
• 1:43:27
  So he kind of started it up in this way and I say I think we've
• 1:43:31
  been to 33. I have to look that up.
• 1:43:32
  I think we've been to 33 tracks over the years.
• 1:43:34
  Some dirt tracks, been to Hartford and Thunderbird open
• 1:43:38
  show like. So we got Grand Rapids before
• 1:43:40
  Kalamazoo, Bob Gillsburg. Let's see, there was Lansing,
• 1:43:47
  Angola, Fort Wayne, Winchester, Indianapolis, Plymouth, Toledo,
• 1:43:56
  Sandusky, Lorraine. I'll have to get an Adam Ileana
• 1:44:01
  solid. It's pretty fun deal.
• 1:44:03
  But I stay with me and doing Mclawn and doing the photos.
• 1:44:05
  I only get to do about two shows a year down as I can make this
• 1:44:08
  one fat, but the mother ones just didn't want to be able to
• 1:44:11
  make it, you know, unless we get a rain out or something there.
• 1:44:14
  If there's only one of you, right, you know there's one.
• 1:44:17
  Of you and you're. That's only the good part.
• 1:44:19
  Bad part there. So I know it's 8:40.
• 1:44:23
  So what time do you have to? What time do you have to get
• 1:44:26
  going? Usually about 45, so I got about
• 1:44:29
  5 more minutes there. So we'll what we'll do is, you
• 1:44:33
  know, I'll probably get like a Part 3 just because again, I
• 1:44:37
  feel like we still only scratched the surface with you
• 1:44:39
  and we've had you since like seven O 8.
• 1:44:43
  So maybe we'd have like a Ron's corner every like once a month
• 1:44:47
  or something like that. Just a Ron Brash episode to tell
• 1:44:51
  more stories because you have so much to share.
• 1:44:54
  Yeah, the photo books and just what we have in those books,
• 1:44:57
  there's lots of good stuff. And you know, I try to just
• 1:45:00
  peace out the best stories there is.
• 1:45:02
  And you know, sometimes you take a book there and it's like not
• 1:45:06
  open all that at once. It's like, oh God, that's a lot
• 1:45:08
  of weight drag, but it's still someone's going to see it.
• 1:45:10
  And then other shows people are like, Oh my God, look at this
• 1:45:12
  stuff. And this is good because it's
• 1:45:15
  got to you got to keep track of the stuff somehow.
• 1:45:17
  I. Was going to say you shared with
• 1:45:20
  me when I posted online shortly after the top and auto show
• 1:45:23
  about the Johnny Russell, Bill Russell car.
• 1:45:26
  So while we while we're closing up, maybe that's the story that
• 1:45:29
  we can end with is if you want to tell a little bit about that
• 1:45:32
  story in that car at the that's Concorde Autorama, right?
• 1:45:38
  They have Racer Rama and actually Johnny got with me and
• 1:45:41
  he says I got this car that the old Chevelle that we had and but
• 1:45:45
  dad doesn't know anything about it.
• 1:45:47
  So we're going to bring it to the car show.
• 1:45:48
  And I said, OK, I said I won't put it on the entry list either.
• 1:45:52
  So he brings it in Friday night on the flatbed and people like,
• 1:45:55
  what's that? It was all covered up.
• 1:45:57
  Chuck Maggio did the same thing I think that same year with that
• 1:45:59
  55 Chevy. He kept it all covered up.
• 1:46:01
  This is a surprise because he was going to debut it at the car
• 1:46:04
  show, that street sock he had. And so we brought it in.
• 1:46:08
  We kept it covered up well. Then Friday it was kind of dead
• 1:46:10
  in the morning, so I took the cover off.
• 1:46:12
  I started taking pictures of it and then him and Bill and Ed was
• 1:46:15
  going to come out Friday night. And so then we're kind of
• 1:46:18
  waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting.
• 1:46:20
  And they car was covered up. And what's going on with this
• 1:46:22
  car just just covered up, no big deal.
• 1:46:25
  And so then them guys come walking in and car was still
• 1:46:28
  covered up and everybody's like kind of following them.
• 1:46:30
  And I tried to have the camera like for like the moment they're
• 1:46:33
  going to be surprised to see it. And Johnny uncovered it and Bill
• 1:46:36
  was like, Oh my God, check this out.
• 1:46:38
  So that was kind of a pretty cool deal.
• 1:46:39
  And then probably had probably thought there's a ride over
• 1:46:42
  there, but about, you know, about 100 people's kind of
• 1:46:44
  standing around looking at whole thing going on there and stuff.
• 1:46:46
  And Bill was, I was like, and Johnny's like, we did all this
• 1:46:49
  and Bill didn't know anything about it.
• 1:46:50
  And I said that had to be quite the deal there.
• 1:46:52
  And you know, Bill's like, Oh my God, check this out.
• 1:46:55
  You know that, you know, you're going back 1980 with that car
• 1:46:58
  1979. So it that was that was really
• 1:47:02
  cool. Well, I'm just leaving the
• 1:47:05
  picture because I think that if I remember, that's the car that
• 1:47:07
  they had at the auto show this year.
• 1:47:10
  So because I even went back last year's show and I went, Nope,
• 1:47:14
  that was a Batmobile sort of deal.
• 1:47:16
  So I was trying to think like, I know I've seen pictures and I
• 1:47:18
  can't remember if it was maybe the year before because, you
• 1:47:21
  know, them and Kalamazoo have been going the same amount of
• 1:47:24
  years. We both arrived at the auto
• 1:47:26
  show. And so I'm like, maybe it was
• 1:47:28
  in, you know, the year before that that they had that kind of
• 1:47:31
  car out there because I remember seeing pictures of it and might
• 1:47:33
  have even been used sharing pictures, but.
• 1:47:36
  Yeah, because they had it then they had trouble getting it
• 1:47:38
  started and stuff, and they're going to race it as a Street
• 1:47:41
  Stock or something and then, you know, just like we'll get it to
• 1:47:44
  it later and other projects, you know, took off after that.
• 1:47:49
  Now the tracks probably taking some time away from the cartoon
• 1:47:51
  a little bit. I'm sure.
• 1:47:54
  Well, again, I know we're right up against the the button here,
• 1:47:57
  but I know like Sheldon Lindlag, again, just that race.
• 1:48:01
  If you've not watched that 4 cylinder race from new pairs
• 1:48:04
  with Sheldon, again, huge congratulations.
• 1:48:08
  I never, I didn't make it back down to Sheldon after I got
• 1:48:10
  everything packed away, but then I saw he's pulling out behind me
• 1:48:13
  when I was leaving and I wanted to get over there to
• 1:48:15
  congratulate him because again, that that was pretty impressive.
• 1:48:19
  But he got on here, you know, saying, Oh, I'll show it.
• 1:48:22
  You know, definitely appreciate the story that you're, you know,
• 1:48:25
  telling And remember over the years, and I know a lot of
• 1:48:27
  people have jumped on and been busy in the comments sharing
• 1:48:30
  those throwbacks. And so again, we'll probably
• 1:48:33
  like I, I mentioned, we'll have like a part three, you know,
• 1:48:36
  maybe it's just like once a once a month, we get you on here when
• 1:48:39
  your schedule allows. And because I know you're busy,
• 1:48:41
  like you said, and you know, get you on and maybe just tell more
• 1:48:45
  stories and we'll have more racing by that time and maybe
• 1:48:47
  people will, you know, someone will remember another story that
• 1:48:51
  will trigger something. Because again, you know, you, we
• 1:48:54
  have the Super modifieds that we could talk about from the New
• 1:48:57
  England area. We have, you know, all these
• 1:48:59
  different things going on. So again, there's we haven't
• 1:49:03
  even really opened the book yet. So, so again, Ron, you know, I
• 1:49:08
  know they say it, but, and I know I've said it before, but I
• 1:49:11
  just definitely appreciate everything that you've done for
• 1:49:14
  this area and, and everything that you've done to keep the
• 1:49:17
  sport alive. And you know, I, I can't even be
• 1:49:21
  half of you, but you know, I'm going to try my part to fill in,
• 1:49:24
  know where I can, because I know you're one person and you can't
• 1:49:27
  be everywhere. Just like Boujou is one person.
• 1:49:29
  He won't be able to be everywhere.
• 1:49:30
  I'm one person. I can't be everywhere.
• 1:49:32
  But you know, together, us three, you know, we're trying to
• 1:49:34
  do our part just to keep this thing that we love alive.
• 1:49:39
  Sure, sure, there work and and storms are coming.
• 1:49:42
  So definitely be safe tonight while you're out there and
• 1:49:45
  everything and, and we'll hit, we'll have you on back here
• 1:49:47
  probably in a couple weeks again.
• 1:49:49
  All right, thank you so much guys.
• 1:49:51
  I'm going to get my clothes on. I got my jacket on.
• 1:49:54
  Got already got my. Shirt, I was blessed.
• 1:49:56
  I hope you got clothes on, Ron. Oh.
• 1:49:58
  Yeah, I'm fully dressed there. So you guys take Care now.
• 1:50:02
  Yep, have a. Good one, Ron.
• 1:50:03
  Thank you. Thank you again.
• 1:50:05
  But again, everyone, thank you for for joining us tonight.
• 1:50:09
  We're not quite ending yet. We'll wrap up with a few
• 1:50:12
  thoughts from the weekend, talk a little bit about Springport
• 1:50:16
  and my excitement. That's kind of the talk of the
• 1:50:18
  town a little bit for, you know, for social media.
• 1:50:21
  But again, we'll have to have Ron back on again just because,
• 1:50:25
  you know, we're we're still only scratching the surface with him
• 1:50:28
  and we, you know, we could have kept going if he didn't have
• 1:50:31
  work coming up. So why don't we debrief a little
• 1:50:35
  bit? So what stood out to you from
• 1:50:39
  our conversation with Ron this time?
• 1:50:41
  I mean, I I could just listen to Ron's stories all night, but he
• 1:50:44
  was ranting when he had his prepared notes at the beginning
• 1:50:47
  and he was just going through some of his favorite times, like
• 1:50:49
  favorite traveling series and stuff like that.
• 1:50:51
  That I could just sit there and listen to that stuff all day and
• 1:50:53
  just naming names off. Yeah, awesome stuff.
• 1:50:56
  I love Ron having Ron on. One, and it's one of those that
• 1:50:59
  again, you know, you and I have talked, Ron and I have talked
• 1:51:02
  directly about like, you know, he is such an encyclopedia for
• 1:51:06
  this area. And, you know, it's one of those
• 1:51:10
  like, you know who who takes over from there, right?
• 1:51:13
  You know, because there's going to be a point where you know
• 1:51:16
  he's going to decide to say, hey, you know what, I just don't
• 1:51:19
  want to do it anymore or can't do it anymore or it's impossible
• 1:51:22
  to do it anymore, right? I mean, you just don't know how
• 1:51:24
  life goes and but it's one of those that I know you'd like.
• 1:51:27
  You're doing your part with your Buju chronicles and and telling
• 1:51:31
  those stories of tracks past and present.
• 1:51:33
  And so and I know you were working on other episodes and
• 1:51:37
  you know, you're busy. You're one person too, right?
• 1:51:39
  So, so again, that's where I know next week we have Tim
• 1:51:47
  Dibble will be on and I'm excited for him because I, you
• 1:51:50
  know, he used to race. They raced over at Hartford, you
• 1:51:53
  know, before they decided to own it and everything.
• 1:51:55
  So there's actually in the concession stand at Hartford,
• 1:51:58
  you can go in and there's a picture of Tim racing.
• 1:52:00
  I want to see in a Pro stock or something like that.
• 1:52:03
  So you know, right there on their main, their pit concession
• 1:52:07
  down below. And so there's a couple photos
• 1:52:09
  in there, but you know, he raced on it when it was 1/2 mile.
• 1:52:12
  And then obviously we could talk about his perspective with the
• 1:52:14
  3/8. But, you know, having against
• 1:52:16
  someone like Tim on, you know, I think he's going to have a lot
• 1:52:19
  of stories to tell and, you know, and obviously preview the
• 1:52:21
  upcoming Hartford season. But you know, he is a racer and,
• 1:52:25
  and, you know, we can probably ask him some, you know, Ron
• 1:52:28
  mentioned this or Ron mentioned that and, you know, and we'll
• 1:52:31
  probably be able to recall something.
• 1:52:32
  So, so again, I, you know, that's where I, I just, I look
• 1:52:36
  forward to Mondays, you know, and I've actually mean, it's
• 1:52:39
  really pushed me to get some of the editing done on Sundays,
• 1:52:41
  even though that, you know, my day off because I just want to
• 1:52:45
  rejuvenate right from the weekend.
• 1:52:46
  But it's like, OK, we gotta get ready for the show on Monday
• 1:52:49
  because I just look forward to your guests every week.
• 1:52:51
  So, you know, I do want to do like a quick, you know, little
• 1:52:55
  blurb because we didn't do one at the top of the hour.
• 1:52:57
  But again, for the Monday night rewind, you know, if you guys
• 1:53:01
  help us, you know, like it, share it out.
• 1:53:04
  Like I see we have 30 likes so far just on top row stream, I
• 1:53:07
  think, but you know, share it out, you know, let people know
• 1:53:11
  to to take a listen and join us on Mondays to come.
• 1:53:14
  You know, obviously then on Thursdays we have a Thursday
• 1:53:16
  night at throttle. But if someone can't watch it
• 1:53:18
  live on Facebook, it is on YouTube.
• 1:53:21
  The video version, it's the same thing.
• 1:53:22
  And then even on Spotify, it's a video version.
• 1:53:25
  So when we're done with the show, I always download it, put
• 1:53:27
  on Spotify. Then from Spotify, it disperses
• 1:53:30
  out to audio formats on Apple Podcasts, which it seems that's
• 1:53:35
  where a lot of other other people like to listen is on
• 1:53:38
  Apple Podcast. And then there's Amazon Music on
• 1:53:41
  iHeartRadio. So again, it's all free to watch
• 1:53:43
  and all free to listen. If you get in the car and you
• 1:53:46
  have a long road trip and you want to listen to a show, you
• 1:53:49
  know, we definitely invite you to.
• 1:53:50
  And just a quick reminder too, for this Thursday, The Throttle
• 1:53:55
  returns at 7:00 PM where we'll preview the upcoming weekend.
• 1:53:58
  We'll it'll be a very similar format to what we did last week,
• 1:54:02
  where here's the Friday schedule.
• 1:54:03
  Lord knows there's rain in the in the forecast again.
• 1:54:06
  So we have to do the caveat just like before, like, hey, this is
• 1:54:09
  what we know, but you know, Kalamazoo literally cancelled
• 1:54:11
  while we were on the show. So that made that graphic like
• 1:54:15
  irrelevant quick but show. And they were the only one that
• 1:54:19
  survived on Friday. But again, the Thursday night
• 1:54:21
  throttle, that's a quicker show. That's, you know, we tell you
• 1:54:25
  what's going on, we preview, we talk, shoot the breeze, you
• 1:54:28
  know, get really engaged with comments more so than even
• 1:54:30
  tonight. And so again, that's, you know,
• 1:54:34
  a shorter show, a little different where this one goes a
• 1:54:37
  little bit longer into the night.
• 1:54:38
  So again, I definitely appreciate everyone who joins us
• 1:54:41
  on a Monday. We have a lot of people who are
• 1:54:43
  very consistent. So so that's something I
• 1:54:47
  definitely appreciate. But real quick, I know you
• 1:54:50
  commented on the Spring Port thing and, and I've known since
• 1:54:54
  the auto show and apparently other people know too.
• 1:54:56
  If you didn't get to know that there is a, you know, there's
• 1:54:59
  some bragging with that and it's like, OK, whatever.
• 1:55:02
  But you know, I was at Springport for two years.
• 1:55:05
  So, you know, I was very invested and actually invested a
• 1:55:09
  lot of money for my budget, a lot of money in Springport doing
• 1:55:13
  a lot of different things for the drivers there.
• 1:55:15
  Because I just, even at New Paris, they're talking about it
• 1:55:19
  a little bit. And not even one person who I
• 1:55:21
  interacted with that New Paris who brought it up had anything
• 1:55:25
  negative to say about Donnie. You know, Donnie just had such
• 1:55:28
  an infectious leadership style to him where he takes on way too
• 1:55:33
  much on his own and I and he knows that, but he gets things
• 1:55:39
  done and he has loyal people. A lot of them are family, but he
• 1:55:43
  has a lot of loyalty with him. You know, there are drivers who
• 1:55:46
  miss Springport. So so Speaking of, we were
• 1:55:51
  talking about Chris earlier. So let's you know, she's loving.
• 1:55:55
  We were talking. So maybe that's, you know, maybe
• 1:55:58
  that's why she joined that because we're definitely talking
• 1:55:59
  about you in all the good ways. You know, we just you know, how
• 1:56:02
  big of a host fart thing you are and people are doing Wellness
• 1:56:06
  checks on you. Just make sure you had a pulse,
• 1:56:09
  you know, after all that. But I know I'm excited for
• 1:56:13
  Springport and I know a lot of people have been asking, you
• 1:56:16
  know, drivers and fans, you know, you come back to
• 1:56:18
  Springport and I'm like, that's up to Donnie, you know.
• 1:56:20
  But you know, I'm also at New Paris and so that I mean,
• 1:56:23
  they're not racing this year. I can tell you that if the
• 1:56:26
  earliest I think would be Michigan Cup, if they race at
• 1:56:28
  all this year. And I think I think they might
• 1:56:31
  be similar, but where they have to get something in before then
• 1:56:33
  in the year. But they could be wrong on an
• 1:56:34
  ordinance, I don't know. Yep.
• 1:56:37
  And but I know that's something that they've kind of been
• 1:56:40
  working towards and on and, and I'm excited to see what they can
• 1:56:44
  do at Springport. A lot of you know, I don't know.
• 1:56:47
  Have you been to Springport before?
• 1:56:49
  I have not. That's why I'm so fired up.
• 1:56:50
  I I thought I lost my opportunity to visit Springport.
• 1:56:53
  You know. Donnie back involved.
• 1:56:55
  I'm excited to have the option our but our guy from our shop,
• 1:56:58
  Hollywood Trust, who races with us, he went up to the Michigan
• 1:57:01
  Cup a few years ago and he had a blast.
• 1:57:04
  So we've got a big red circle around that and I'm glad we have
• 1:57:07
  our opportunity back to get back up there.
• 1:57:09
  Well, and you're such a nerd for history too, racing.
• 1:57:11
  And that's that's a compliment. No, I hear correct.
• 1:57:16
  History too, like I love history stuff.
• 1:57:17
  And so if you go to YouTube, I'll try to find the links.
• 1:57:21
  There's a series that starts from ground breaking because
• 1:57:24
  that track, you know that he called it Michigan Ideal
• 1:57:27
  Speedway and he had worked at MIS.
• 1:57:29
  And so it's very similar to MIS, but the Galesburg owner at the
• 1:57:32
  time challenged him and said if you think you could do it
• 1:57:34
  better, go build your own track. So literally plowed down.
• 1:57:37
  It's like Field of Dreams but in a racetrack.
• 1:57:39
  Like it's actually watch the movie Field of Dreams.
• 1:57:42
  And it's like he literally plowed down a cornfield and and
• 1:57:45
  built this track and and called it MIS for Michigan ideal, you
• 1:57:50
  know, Speedway and they have a museum there, but there's a
• 1:57:53
  series on YouTube. A former announcer narrates it
• 1:57:55
  all the way through construction.
• 1:57:57
  I mean, that track was almost washed out by like a monsoon
• 1:57:59
  rainstorm. That was like a 100 year storm
• 1:58:02
  or thousand year storm. And, and it, and it narrates
• 1:58:06
  it's three parts, but it goes from breaking the ground to the
• 1:58:10
  few couple races. They talk with Russ Densmore all
• 1:58:12
  throughout. They show how the Amish built
• 1:58:14
  the walls and, and all these different things.
• 1:58:17
  And so, you know, if you're a sucker for that, that's where I
• 1:58:20
  don't know if that's why I fell in love with Springport is
• 1:58:22
  because I'm a sucker for the history.
• 1:58:24
  And like someone literally gambled their life, you know,
• 1:58:27
  savings and all that on this. But after the race is I would
• 1:58:30
  always try to sit in turn 4 even for just 30 seconds, you know,
• 1:58:34
  just sit there. It was all dark, you know, just
• 1:58:37
  kind of take it all in because it's like, you know, there's
• 1:58:39
  just, there's something special about that place.
• 1:58:42
  And the people not only, I mean like 7 people ran that whole
• 1:58:45
  thing between Donnie and his family, like 7 workers manage
• 1:58:49
  that whole thing and subtracts have 40 people managing a race
• 1:58:53
  day and they did it with seven at Springport, you know, plus
• 1:58:57
  like concession workers and like that whole site, but that house,
• 1:59:00
  like 7 people just managed that whole thing and all family.
• 1:59:04
  And but that's something that you even stand in the infield
• 1:59:08
  and you watch that backstretch with the banking and it's, I
• 1:59:11
  don't know, it's just something special.
• 1:59:12
  And most drivers are up there really special.
• 1:59:14
  They make it a very family environment.
• 1:59:16
  So I know I'm personally excited for Springport.
• 1:59:19
  I don't know how much I'll be at Springport.
• 1:59:20
  Again, that's even up to Donnie, if he would even want me at
• 1:59:23
  Springport. So certainly if people want me
• 1:59:25
  at, you know, if drivers or, or fans want me at Springport, be
• 1:59:28
  like, Donnie, you got to bring Lewis back.
• 1:59:29
  But you know, like I said, I, I even talked with him that, you
• 1:59:32
  know, I'm committed with new Paris and I absolutely love
• 1:59:35
  being down at new Paris and supporting those drivers and
• 1:59:37
  Chris and Tracy. So it'll be what's their
• 1:59:40
  schedule going to look like and, and all that to get up there.
• 1:59:44
  Because again, they gave me an opportunity at, at Springport
• 1:59:46
  and I just, you know, I, I did everything I could to not only
• 1:59:51
  get drivers there and, and, and promote that, but you know, even
• 1:59:55
  get fans in the stands there because that's what they, it's
• 1:59:59
  such a small area up there. And then you got to go like 100
• 2:00:02
  billion miles off the highway just to get there.
• 2:00:04
  It's not 100 billion, by the way, but it is a lot.
• 2:00:08
  It is a little while off 94, but you know, Charlie, listen to
• 2:00:11
  Charlie Hannah talk about their first time when him and Sage
• 2:00:14
  went up there. He's like it's just farm field,
• 2:00:16
  farm field, farm field, farm field.
• 2:00:18
  Racetrack and then it's not even a small racetrack you're like
• 2:00:20
  holy cow it's like a huge here and but that racing is
• 2:00:26
  definitely worth it so you need to get up there I know you said
• 2:00:29
  you got it circled but I'm excited because that's a track
• 2:00:31
  that's coming back that we could have lost and so.
• 2:00:35
  Tracks don't come back very often, so we need to appreciate
• 2:00:37
  this one that it is. And knowing what Donnie has done
• 2:00:41
  in Galesburg with his time when he was a promoter there, what
• 2:00:46
  he's done at Kalamazoo, I mean, 90 cars or 93, whatever it was
• 2:00:49
  on opening night at Kalamazoo with three classes, we didn't
• 2:00:54
  even have our 4, right? So I'm excited to see this week
• 2:00:57
  when we have our normal, you know, front wheel drive switch.
• 2:00:59
  Obviously with the autism race that might pull a few other
• 2:01:02
  drivers, you know, chasing a little extra money.
• 2:01:05
  Then you have the straight stocks, which I'm just, you
• 2:01:07
  know, straight stock racing in Kalamazoo can't get any better.
• 2:01:11
  But that limited class and I know a couple drivers race at
• 2:01:13
  Galesburg over the weekend. Jerry Pearman did really well
• 2:01:16
  with his car and he seems really excited for that.
• 2:01:19
  So so again, I'm excited to see all the new drivers in the
• 2:01:23
  limited group and then obviously templates.
• 2:01:25
  I'm a, you know, that feels like it's the most wide open it's
• 2:01:28
  been in a couple years with all the changes out during the
• 2:01:31
  offseason with drivers retiring and stepping back and everything
• 2:01:35
  and moving up. So, you know, I'm excited to see
• 2:01:37
  who takes the bull by the horns in that class and declares
• 2:01:40
  himself the challenger. And yeah, with Springport, you
• 2:01:45
  know, they just, I'm excited for that.
• 2:01:47
  I'm excited for Donnie. You know, he, he pours his heart
• 2:01:50
  into everything that he does. So I hope everyone gives him a
• 2:01:54
  chance when they open that up because they're going to need
• 2:01:56
  it. I mean, that's they're taking it
• 2:01:57
  on a lot, you know, to make this go and, and Springport's been
• 2:02:01
  tough, you know, for any owner in the history.
• 2:02:04
  I mean, it's had a lot of history, not always good history
• 2:02:07
  with it, you know, just a lot of closing time and, and different
• 2:02:10
  things. So when it opens back up, I
• 2:02:12
  just, I hope fans show up and, and, and pack it as much as they
• 2:02:15
  can. Cuz I, as I would always tell
• 2:02:19
  Donnie, I said I don't get paid enough to fluff anybody.
• 2:02:21
  I, I always told him I put up your show against anybody's.
• 2:02:25
  And I know sometimes, you know, the knock was, well, they only
• 2:02:28
  have 8 light models. Yeah, but you know what?
• 2:02:31
  Those ain't light models. You got race Bible in there.
• 2:02:33
  You had John Chadel, you had Jerry Pearman, you'd have Joey
• 2:02:36
  Barnhart in there. You just had so many great
• 2:02:39
  drivers from like, they may not have the quantity, but they have
• 2:02:42
  the quality. And oh, by the way, the two
• 2:02:44
  drivers, two of the drivers, you're just talk about one in
• 2:02:47
  Kalamazoo. So you know, and they beat
• 2:02:49
  everybody at Kalamazoo. So, you know, it's one of those
• 2:02:51
  things that it's like they had a lot of quality there and
• 2:02:54
  modified racing, if you love modified racing, watch them at
• 2:02:56
  Springport because that's that's where I fell in love with
• 2:03:00
  modified racing again. You know, I kind of got out of
• 2:03:02
  it. I wasn't a big fan of it, but
• 2:03:04
  watching it at Springport, I'm like, this is exciting and and
• 2:03:10
  just just yeah, modified that will sell a ticket in itself,
• 2:03:15
  but. Just as I said, race tracks
• 2:03:18
  don't come back very often and especially, yeah, I don't know,
• 2:03:22
  support the support then while we have the opportunity, we we
• 2:03:26
  lost the opportunity. We have it back.
• 2:03:28
  It's important that we get it right this time.
• 2:03:30
  Make sure you support Springport and Donnie and everything that's
• 2:03:32
  going on there. It's very exciting.
• 2:03:33
  I'm fired up and ready to get up there.
• 2:03:35
  So I'll see everybody up there when we when we can.
• 2:03:38
  Yep. So definitely stay tuned to
• 2:03:39
  their Facebook page as more comes in.
• 2:03:42
  And again, for Sheldon, obviously everyone has a really
• 2:03:46
  heavy heart from last week. I know today was Faith's
• 2:03:50
  birthday, but again, for Sheldon, my win Saturday was for
• 2:03:53
  Woody. Like Drew said, he was holding
• 2:03:55
  my wheel. And again, you just I think
• 2:03:58
  Jeremy Wardinger, you know, he's underrated in a lot of ways.
• 2:04:01
  I don't think people give him a lot of a lot of credit for the
• 2:04:04
  announcer that he is. And he's a Tony Eldridge, you
• 2:04:07
  know, learner like he learned from that tree.
• 2:04:10
  And obviously, I mean, Tony could sell you paint drying and
• 2:04:13
  make it sound like the most exciting that you've ever
• 2:04:15
  watched in your entire life and and feel like man, paint drawing
• 2:04:19
  is really exciting. And you know, but Jeremy, you
• 2:04:23
  know, he does a lot of the night of destructions and he can
• 2:04:25
  entertain the heck out of the crowd.
• 2:04:27
  But he did awesome, you know, for weekly racing, he could do
• 2:04:30
  that too. And you know, he he tries to
• 2:04:32
  know stats and all these things, but he was telling quite the
• 2:04:34
  story. Like it was almost like
• 2:04:36
  storytelling with with this 4 cylinder because you know, the
• 2:04:40
  way he kept saying for Sheldon, if you listen to the audio, even
• 2:04:44
  if you just don't watch the picture, but just listen to the
• 2:04:46
  audio, you know, pride of lions chasing Sheldon down.
• 2:04:49
  And just it's because that's what it felt like.
• 2:04:51
  You got all these mini stocks chasing down a front, you know,
• 2:04:54
  outlaw front wheel drive. That is all.
• 2:04:55
  These Harmons. All the Harmons again, they
• 2:04:58
  could have a few times and they didn't, so huge kudos to them
• 2:05:02
  because they Chris could have taken them outgoing to the
• 2:05:04
  checkered. Yeah.
• 2:05:06
  I mean, yeah, he didn't have to pull left.
• 2:05:07
  Yeah, he. Did not and he could have taken
• 2:05:10
  everybody out right and they didn't so huge kudos to them and
• 2:05:13
  and and leaving it all on the track but again for Sheldon his
• 2:05:17
  win was for Woody obviously Michael Wood a huge part of the
• 2:05:20
  national compacts Sheldon's one of those founding you know
• 2:05:23
  drivers of that group withdrew and all of them and and many
• 2:05:27
  other names. So again, I know a lot of the
• 2:05:29
  people on Saturday at Galesburg had heavy hearts, you know, with
• 2:05:32
  Woody not being there. But you know, as Drew said, as
• 2:05:36
  many others and you we saw him last Thursday, you know, he'd
• 2:05:39
  want us to laugh and keep going and, you know, just do our
• 2:05:42
  thing. And so again, but watching
• 2:05:44
  Sheldon race, if again, if you didn't watch that, if you don't
• 2:05:48
  watch anything else in my video, go watch that, you know, because
• 2:05:51
  that was definitely I think that was the race of the night, even
• 2:05:55
  though Andrew and Bug did the things that they did and they
• 2:05:59
  dominated once they got out front.
• 2:06:01
  And and just that one minute and 11 seconds of that street stock
• 2:06:04
  race with all the lead changes, you know, Haley all leading a
• 2:06:07
  lap and and getting out there, even though she was nervous as
• 2:06:10
  I'll get out to do that. You know, she did it and I went
• 2:06:14
  down it during the intermission. Like you're nervous.
• 2:06:16
  You're out there racing, you know, for a win in the heat race
• 2:06:19
  and side by side and you look comfortable.
• 2:06:21
  And I said, remember, you're a bull, you know, like, you know
• 2:06:23
  what you do? It's in the lineage, it's in the
• 2:06:26
  blood, right, But you know that men 11, you know, told a lot.
• 2:06:29
  But but Sheldon holding off all those ponies, I mean, I don't
• 2:06:33
  even know if you call them ponies.
• 2:06:34
  They might be like gazelles or whatever.
• 2:06:36
  You know, I think whatever the fastest animal is, pick that and
• 2:06:40
  you know, but that that was impressive.
• 2:06:41
  So if you watch nothing from new Paris and that and my YouTube
• 2:06:45
  video, go watch that race and watch it all unfold.
• 2:06:47
  So. Here, here.
• 2:06:49
  New new closing segment coming up with it on the spot.
• 2:06:51
  Was that your favorite thing that happened at the racetrack
• 2:06:52
  this week? Mine was a Crown Victoria
• 2:06:57
  featured on 40. I think they put on a great
• 2:06:59
  show. We talked about a little earlier
• 2:07:01
  the Terry's we're about putting each other in the wall.
• 2:07:03
  Someone and my my buddy Ronnie Holloway always puts on a great
• 2:07:06
  race when he's in it. That was my favorite thing at
• 2:07:08
  the track this weekend and that Uncrustable.
• 2:07:10
  I want to mention that again. I saw his post when he's like be
• 2:07:13
  a fluffy cloud. Be a fluffy fluffy, yeah.
• 2:07:16
  But Ronnie got a little excited in the heat race and we we've
• 2:07:20
  had this discussion. We're not going to be the old
• 2:07:21
  Ronnie anymore. We're new Ronnie, new Ronnie's a
• 2:07:23
  fluffy cloud. I'll answer the reason why I
• 2:07:28
  pause and and not because of hesitation, because I'd pick
• 2:07:31
  that, but I'd also pick that the commodity that I saw in the
• 2:07:35
  pits, you know, it just it was like it was almost like even the
• 2:07:38
  week before at Kalamazoo, new Paris, where everyone was just
• 2:07:40
  kind of glad to be back, right. You know, and obviously, you
• 2:07:44
  know, when competition gets going, you know, that's, you
• 2:07:47
  know, people get worked up in the adrenaline gets rushing and
• 2:07:50
  and all that kind of deal. And so then you're kind of like
• 2:07:52
  a man like mid season form. But, but you know, I Sheldon,
• 2:07:56
  you know what he did that would probably be 1 and then two would
• 2:07:59
  be just the, the, the joy. It seemed like people had been
• 2:08:03
  at the track. So it's like we need to remember
• 2:08:06
  that, you know, life's short. If Woody's, you know, anytime
• 2:08:10
  someone passes, we're always like, how do you remember them?
• 2:08:13
  And it's like, you know, let's remember we only get to do this
• 2:08:15
  for like 20 weeks a year if we're lucky.
• 2:08:18
  You know, we just had a range from the Kalamazoo.
• 2:08:19
  So that's 19 times that we get to do it now, right?
• 2:08:22
  That we only get to do this so often.
• 2:08:25
  There are people in this area who would love to be able to go
• 2:08:28
  to a track that they've lost, you know, the track that they'd
• 2:08:31
  love to go to. And we have an opportunity to go
• 2:08:33
  to track. I know it's very easy to go to
• 2:08:34
  social media and say things. I know it's very easy to go and
• 2:08:37
  be unhappy about this or that or, you know, the flag man
• 2:08:40
  looked at you wrong with the Black Flag and you didn't like
• 2:08:42
  how they looked at you, whatever, right?
• 2:08:44
  You know, but just remember we have that opportunity to do
• 2:08:47
  that. There are tons of race fans and
• 2:08:49
  there are tons of drivers who have apart, they don't race
• 2:08:51
  anymore. They don't go anywhere.
• 2:08:52
  They don't do anything cuz they've lost their track or
• 2:08:54
  their desire to do it. And so it's like just remember
• 2:08:57
  like we only get to do it so many months.
• 2:08:59
  And this was a really long winter for a lot of people.
• 2:09:02
  I mean, just brutal snow and brutal temperatures and brutal
• 2:09:06
  at all. And and obviously just with the
• 2:09:09
  environment that, you know, society's in, in general, that's
• 2:09:12
  exhausting for people. And it's like, let's get joy.
• 2:09:14
  Let's just remember, you know, we can let everything go with
• 2:09:17
  the track. It's a lifesaver for a lot of
• 2:09:19
  people. That's how I got back into
• 2:09:21
  racing, not as a lifesaver, but as a mental check, a mental
• 2:09:26
  break from reality, you know, go sit a track and I don't have to
• 2:09:30
  worry about anything, right? And so I mean, there's things to
• 2:09:33
  worry about, but you know, like I wasn't worried about my job.
• 2:09:36
  I wasn't worried about, you know, the things that were going
• 2:09:38
  on. And it's like I just went and
• 2:09:40
  sat and got to be around with people who, you know, I enjoy
• 2:09:43
  being around. So I think we need to just
• 2:09:45
  remember that, you know, even in the heart of competition and
• 2:09:48
  everything else that we have an opportunity to be at a
• 2:09:52
  racetrack. Let's not take it for granted
• 2:09:54
  because look at Ohio. How many tracks did they lose
• 2:09:58
  this year? Where now how many drivers have
• 2:10:00
  either A, just parked, they're not going anywhere, they're not
• 2:10:03
  going to race anywhere, they're not going to do anything they're
• 2:10:04
  selling at all, or B, are lost and homeless and have to do what
• 2:10:10
  Ron said, put in 600 miles just to go race, 400 miles to go
• 2:10:14
  race. So if they race at all, so I
• 2:10:17
  think we just remember that, you know it, Life's short.
• 2:10:20
  Just. Go to the races.
• 2:10:24
  Go to races. Live short go to the races a.
• 2:10:28
  Lot cheaper than going to WrestleMania, let's remember
• 2:10:30
  that. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure.
• 2:10:32
  And MLB baseball game and all these other things, right?
• 2:10:35
  Like you get to go and you get to have racetrack food and all
• 2:10:38
  that. You know what, Scott?
• 2:10:42
  I know you can't see what I'm doing right now, but you'll know
• 2:10:46
  anyway. You know, Scott Gates again, you
• 2:10:47
  know, we have a great friendship.
• 2:10:49
  I, you know, him and Amanda, they're, they just announced,
• 2:10:52
  you know, Amanda is pregnant. And of course there are people
• 2:10:56
  you know, Oh, I'm excited for them.
• 2:10:58
  And that's when they told me at the South Bend auto show because
• 2:11:01
  I got, I don't even remember what I was upset about, but oh,
• 2:11:04
  because there's, I won't say who, but there's someone who's
• 2:11:06
  engaged. And I'm like, when did this
• 2:11:08
  happen? I didn't even notice a thing.
• 2:11:09
  They kept it all under wraps. And I'm like, come on, you know,
• 2:11:13
  And so then Amanda's like, well, do you want to know something so
• 2:11:15
  you don't feel left out? And then I went, how many other
• 2:11:17
  people know, you know, not that it's any of my damn business
• 2:11:20
  anyways, you know, have to be in their succession line of like,
• 2:11:23
  first, I was really excited for that because I have a great
• 2:11:26
  relationship with Scott and Amanda.
• 2:11:28
  And that started in 2022 at Super Shoe.
• 2:11:31
  So again, that's a friendship that started.
• 2:11:33
  Now they know when they're racing and I'm on the roof, I'm
• 2:11:36
  neutral internally. I'm rooting for everyone to be
• 2:11:38
  safe, have fun, go out there. You know, that's why with the
• 2:11:41
  safety team, do a fist bump with them before every race night.
• 2:11:43
  I go, be safe, have fun. You know, I go over to KTS and
• 2:11:47
  and because right, they're risking their lives for fans and
• 2:11:51
  drivers. But so, you know, once the green
• 2:11:53
  flag is on and everything, it's you know, it's neutral, But
• 2:11:57
  after the races, let's go celebrate.
• 2:11:59
  So, but for Scott Amanda, obviously we have a friendship.
• 2:12:02
  They're the reason I've gone to PRI.
• 2:12:04
  They got me into that. So, so again, that's just that
• 2:12:09
  like some money is kind of what we mentioned earlier.
• 2:12:11
  You know, some people chase that.
• 2:12:12
  I thought your post was, you know, really, you know, well
• 2:12:16
  done that you did yesterday because that's what we got to
• 2:12:18
  remember. You know, we're in this to do
• 2:12:19
  our part and you know, we don't need to be staged to do it.
• 2:12:23
  So, you know, I didn't want to host a podcast, you know, the
• 2:12:26
  result I didn't want, I wanted to be behind the scenes pressing
• 2:12:30
  all the buttons for the podcast. I enjoy it.
• 2:12:32
  And I think it's gotten a chance for for me to connect with a lot
• 2:12:36
  of people too in a different ways.
• 2:12:37
  So other than that, I hear Thunder coming in with my power
• 2:12:41
  or whatever. I don't know if you got Thunder
• 2:12:42
  down there, but it sounds like over the the lake is just behind
• 2:12:45
  me about I guess 2 miles if you went straight.
• 2:12:48
  So it sounds like it's over the lake.
• 2:12:50
  So we're at that time of the night where it's time to go left
• 2:12:53
  and turn fast because. See you at the races.
• 2:12:57
  See you at the races and see you on Thursday night for the
• 2:12:59
  Thursday night throttle.