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24. Investing In Yourself · The Shift Podcast

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Welcome to fight my datak, a podcast that helps bridge, the
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gap between healthcare workers and First Responders and
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everything in between. This week's episode was so fun
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to record. I'm just really enjoying getting
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to interview my clients and talk to them about the lessons that
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they've learned while coaching together and this week's just so
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special because you get to hear my conversation with Vicki who
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I've been working with since the end of last year and she's grown
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so much as both a person as and a clinician do to coaching
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together and mentoring together and she talks a little bit about
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what it's like to learn to invest in yourself and Laura
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ties yourself and how she's gained confidence, not only as
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an ICU nurse but as a person through working together and I
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just hope you guys enjoy this episode this week and I hope
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that there's something that you can relate to and take away from
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it as well. Hey Vicki, thanks for being on
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today. I really appreciate you being on
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the podcast. Thanks for having me.
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Let's just start out. And I like to start out with
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just telling a little bit about yourself and anything that you
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want to share with everybody. Um, okay, my name is Vicky and I
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live in Clearwater. Florida.
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I am an ICU travel nurse and a newly certified, paramedic I am
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originally from El Paso, Texas and I've been living here in
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Florida for almost almost 10 years.
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Okay, let's start out, like, with the heat only because I
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just visited Texas and April and I was like, it's only 90 degrees
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here and it is humid. It's humid.
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Yes, or in Florida is very hot and humid in Texas.
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It's hot hot and dry. Why?
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I just never believed people. When they said that because we
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in California, it gets really hot here like Summers and the
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one teens, but it's not like the humidity's not like that.
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Yeah, it's very different. When I moved here from El Paso,
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like it's completely dry in El Paso and in very humid, here, I
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couldn't even breathe. I was like, where am I?
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Yeah, the level of sweating is just totally different.
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Yes. Okay, well, great.
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And I just want to start with like we met last year sometime,
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probably the end of last year. We started working together.
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Yes. And and tell me like what you
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first came to me for and kind of what we've been working on along
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the way. Yeah, so I came across your page
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from another flight nurse that I follow, and I my goal and
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aspiration is to be a flight nurse. so throughout my nursing
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career, you know seven years ago has always been to be a flight
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nurse and on Instagram and followed so many different
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flight, Air, ambulances, everything that I can follow,
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you know, and I came across your page and I found out that you
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had a podcast and I listened to your podcast and I was like, oh
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wow, this is really great and saw that you offered all those
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the mentorship and you know, to help get to where you want it
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and I had been talking to my wife and I was saying I really
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wanted to see if I can, you know, meet somebody or or try
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and how guide me to where I need to be to fill in the gaps of
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knowledge and then I came across your page and it was kind of
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like fate. I just had finished leaving
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position in the neuro ICU and I felt like just kind of lost in
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that position in that area that I was in.
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I lost a lot of confidence in myself, after I left from that.
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Job and I came across your page and I think it definitely is
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meeting you and all the services that you offer, and that you've
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helped me with his been like, exponential to where I am right
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now. I have seen so much growth in
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you and I know that we've talked about this before on our
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sessions, but when we first met it was a lot of like power to
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the Past, you know. Just a lot of like you had a lot
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of doubt and not very much self-confidence.
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Impotence like of where you were really in your career and having
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like you said, seven years of nursing experience and then, you
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know, doing ice you for so long. Like you just had I knew you
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liked, had it in you to have that confidence and be able to
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just be like the best nurse that you could be.
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And I've seen you grow so much into that level of confidence
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that it's now like seeping into other areas and you realizing
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like your potential. I think, tell me like how you
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felt about that that part. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah I am, I definitely.
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Well you know, after I lost my job, I definitely felt a big hit
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not just to my pride, but my confidence as who I was as a
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nurse and I think I was very confident at that time but I
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guess I just don't really have a lot of confidence entirely of
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myself for it to be just taken away so quickly and after you
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know, meeting you and working with you, I did have a lot.
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I gave a lot of my power to my past and really Gave a lot of
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who I was, as a nurse to the, I, let my job previously, defined
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who I was, you know, and I really needed to dig into myself
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and you asking you to hard questions, you know, kind of
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with obvious answers that I have the power myself, but just
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giving me the ability to see that in myself, and it
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definitely has helped me in every area of my of my life.
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I feel like this past year and Grown a lot.
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Yeah. And maybe you could go into this
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a little bit more but like what have you learned specifically
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about yourself? Like during this time period of
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really kind of working together. So I feel like I did.
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I doubted myself a lot when it came to what I knew.
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And if I was doing the right thing for my patients, and if I
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could really be the nurse that I previously was before and I was
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in a contract. You know, and I felt like I
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would question myself a lot and after having these meetings with
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you and really affirming to myself working on getting to the
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hard part of questions, like why do you feel a certain way and
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really kind of laying it out flat as and hitting it from
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every angle? Like what happens if you if the
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worst does happen or what happens if the worst really
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doesn't happen if everything's just in my head?
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Ed and if I really doubt myself and I was able to carry like
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positive affirmations and the fact that I really did know what
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I was talking about and took that to clinical practice and it
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actually I was gained a newfound strength and confidence in
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myself that I didn't have before.
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Like Instead of thinking like oh I know my what might be going on
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my patients and not saying anything and then later on
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saying, oh yeah, that was going on.
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Like I was initiating that and and saying like this is what's
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going on and I was absolutely 100% right because I just felt
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stronger and confident in myself.
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And if I didn't have those moments, you know, I we had the
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affirmations that we worked on together, that I would tell
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myself a repeat to myself that would really ground me and take
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me back to To being confident, you know, feeling what you're
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feeling, anxiety, whatever, and being present with it, and then
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not letting it affect your day and just continue to move
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forward. Yeah.
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And I think it's natural for a lot of us especially who work in
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like high stressful jobs, you know, and as healthcare workers,
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and First Responders that we all feel a level of anxiety at some
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point and I think it Ebbs and it flows, right?
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Like sometimes we feel really confident and going in and
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something like I'm things can happen to us or something said
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to us, and it really, like makes us feel more anxious.
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And so I think that's great. Like what you said, that one
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like allowing yourself to just feel anxious, like, living that
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feel that, you know, go through it.
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But then remember and remind yourself like, why, why can't
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you do it? Why are you capable?
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And like you said, those positive affirmations and really
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finding what that thought work is for you.
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That's going to make you remember those things.
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So that you Can get out of it so that you don't spiral into this.
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Well, maybe I'm going to start to believe those things that I'm
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saying about myself and then you try to find all the evidence of
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why it's true, right? Yeah.
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So I also want to talk about, you know, I think that as you
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gain that confidence, you were also able to work on that and
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bring that into testing. Yes.
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Maybe you can talk about that because like, for me,
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personally, testing is like a high.
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Anxiety. I'm I have this story about
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myself that I'm not a good test taker, and it does take me a lot
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of time to pass things. Like it took me multiple times
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and pass the NCLEX and multiple times to pass my C FR n.
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And I made that mean like a lot of things about myself as a
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nurse. And I just had to remind myself,
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like I am a good nurse and I can do this.
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So, how was or made for maybe four people out there, who are
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Maybe Stuck in that same thought that I'm not a good test taker
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and are anxious about a test going up.
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Going like coming up for them, what was it that you did or
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that? We practice that really helped
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you. So I would say that I can say
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open and notorious Lee bad test taker is what I would have in my
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head because I could study and study and study and but I would
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get super anxious and nervous that my mind would just go
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blank, you know, I Get a question, get a question and be
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like, I don't know and freak out and, you know, don't know how to
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answer it, but I'm really, I do know, you know, you just needed
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to calm down but I did after working with you.
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So, doing these affirmations as like why in case my head spirals
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out, you know, if I get to a question and my head is blank,
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what am I going to do? Am I either going to just beat
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myself up and let that consumed me or I'm just going to continue
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to move forward. So what I would do, previously,
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let myself get beat up and the rest of the tests would just go
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downhill because of that one question, and I just keep going
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back to it and that's not the right mindset to have when
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you're taking a test and I have notes in my after each meeting
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that we have and specifically, you know, of these tests that I
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was taking of the EMT and the paramedic and I would tell
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myself and it was something that we talk to you together, like
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okay, so I am an ICU nurse. You know, I can pass these
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paramedic test, I can get these questions, I can do it, even if
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I had to take a bathroom break and just look at myself in a
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mirror and say like, you got this, you know, this, you got
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this and if you get to a question that is just difficult
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or you can't figure out the answer.
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You just don't remember. That's okay.
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You don't know everything. A thing.
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And one thing that I kept in my head was, you know, there's
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always test questions the NCLEX paramedic, there's always at
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least 10 questions that are just practice.
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They don't count for anything. So whenever I got one of those
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questions, I just said that one didn't count.
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That's not going to count. It doesn't matter.
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And I just, you know, what, keep moving forward.
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And with this last exam that I had, for my paramedic license, I
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was very nervous because I With challenged, a paramedic exam,
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you know. So I didn't go to paramedic
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school. So there are many things that
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you and I talked about that. I was really concerned like,
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about operations and things that you don't do is ICU nurse, you
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know, you don't pick out ET tubes.
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You don't figure out what what you're going to use to intubate.
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Somebody, or what paralytic. I mean, generally in the ICU but
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you're not the one initiating those things and it made me
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nervous to get some question that I wasn't.
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Not certain about and you kept telling me.
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So for some reason it took a week to get my results and I
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just thought I failed, I was like, I failed I failed and he
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said no, just keep keep having, you know, keep positive.
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You just you don't know yet. If it doesn't say you failed and
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I was like no I failed. You know I just just admit it
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doesn't take this long usually you get to three days, you get
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your result. It doesn't take a whole week and
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you were 100%, right? Bypassed and it was a lot of the
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affirmations and things that we work together.
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That I feel like really helped me because they really helped
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ground and Center me especially since I have ADHD.
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My brain goes everywhere. Yeah.
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Yeah. And what I love about being a
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coach to and a mentor is that I can hold that belief for you
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even when you don't believe in yourself.
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Like I am I did I 100% thought every time you texted me, like
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she passes to us. Yeah, I know she passed it and
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what's great about that and what I was thinking, when you were
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saying it was that, you know, I hired a tutor and a mentor.
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This last time that I took to see if her and because I took it
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six times and passed it. Yeah, I think failed it six
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times and and I know and I know I'm a good flight nurse and I
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knew all those things, you know but it created a lot of doubt in
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me and so this time I hired a mentor and he really helped me
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like with my fault working. Just like really figuring out.
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You know, the air is that I was weaker.
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And and and I 100% think like that's the reason why I passed
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it this time. Because I think when we do allow
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ourselves to like create good thoughts when we are anxious and
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we're doing a test like that's so helpful and being successful
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in it. Yeah, I 100% agree.
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I don't feel like I would be where I'm at or be as successful
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without ever meeting you honestly because me Putting
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value on myself, you know, and saying like I am worth it and
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I'm going to invest in myself and the best way to invest in
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myself is to hire Mentor, find somebody that's going to help me
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because I can't help myself and 100% areas.
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Otherwise I know be perfect and there's not a perfect world and
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I really did need that. I really did need that that push
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and that help to get through my thought work, because it does
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make a huge difference on how you think.
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What you say out loud. But you say to yourself, even
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when you don't realize that you're saying it to yourself or
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how you're feeling, you know. So just getting in tune with
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that. And you being there to kind of
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like push be like no or I'm nervous about getting this were
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like, okay, well let's go there, why?
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And sometimes I'm like, I really want to go there.
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Like I don't I don't really know, you know, and you ask a
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question and I'm like, I don't know, I just because I never
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really thought about that. That and it's something things
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like just in general. We should think about, we should
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think about every situation, we should think about everything
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and how we're going to respond to it.
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And it makes a huge difference. Yeah.
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And I love working with you, too.
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I think like, there's something to be said about someone who
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wants to be coachable to like, because you are so open to being
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coachable at like going there sometimes, you know, and feeling
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uncomfortable and putting in the work, I 100% think that that's
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why you've gotten the results in your life that you have right
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now. Well, I definitely don't agree
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with that because I don't think that on my own.
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I would have these results. Yeah, and I just think also,
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there's something to be said about like how showing someone
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else like your thoughts and then, then helping you get
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clarity. Yeah, afford and make some big
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decisions with it so that you can feel confident in the
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decisions that you're making. Yeah.
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And I had my last contract, I was actually talking to one of
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the nurses there and I had to share Shared your information
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because I had a down moment and I was doing some studying for,
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you know, the paramedic registry and she was like well what are
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you doing? It said oh you know I'm working
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on my paramedic and everybody just kind of gives me the face
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like your nurse. Why are you doing that?
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And I have to give the whole explanation, you know.
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Well I mean I took a class and when I realized doing the
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scenario that the pre-hospital stuff, I don't know what, I
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didn't know what I was doing and if you do Know what you're doing
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for me as I don't want to hurt anybody.
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So I'm going to go there, I'm going to go to school, I'm going
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to learn even on the nurse, you know, I don't see it as going
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backwards and doing that. You know, I knew that I needed
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guidance and I needed guidance from somebody who is in the
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field where I want to be, so I can get there.
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And she was asking me, you know, I've been kind of looking
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looking for that other, you need a mentor, you know.
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And I don't think I've ever I never would have said that
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before and I'm like, you need to do it Center the information and
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hopefully she did or she's considering it.
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But I think that it's a really good good move in anybody's
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anybody's life. I don't think that you have to
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be in a bad situation to look out real.
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Somebody, I think it's All purposes of Life.
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Yeah. And I love to also that you've
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really learned not only like to have confidence but to have it
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on back. And I think this is one of those
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decisions where you really have showed that because you said,
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like, you know, it isn't a necessity for you to get your
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paramedic license before applying for flight, nursing for
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the programs that you're looking at.
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Some are, I know. But for you it's not.
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And so for you you know, that you just wanted to increase your
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knowledge of pre-hospital since you have hospital.
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So I really think that that self concept of yourself and like,
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gaining more confidence, is really what got you there and
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you've been through a lot now, to get to this point, you know,
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to pass the test and now we're doing application process for
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getting into it. And so I don't think that just
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happened to you. I think that came from like the
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burst of confidence that you really got by having it on back.
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Yeah yeah I think I can agree with that definitely and 100%
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you know is because I've been working With you.
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Yeah and I want to talk about one other thing that you had
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mentioned before. Was it's really important to
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take time for yourself. You said and invest in yourself
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and what I see a lot. And, and for myself either
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personally as healthcare workers.
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Like, and First Responders, we forget to invest in ourselves
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because we pour so much into our patients and into our shifts and
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into our work. Like we all love what we do
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because we like to serve people. What would you have to say about
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the importance of really investing you, you and investing
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in time in yourself? So I think that investing in
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yourself and like every capacity is super important.
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I think a lot of time people focus on the cost of things, you
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know but like oh that's too expensive.
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Like first off, I don't think anybody should ever say that out
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loud. I don't ever say that out loud
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because you can do it if you really want to do it there's
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always a way and you don't ever have to even spend Whole bunch
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of money but it is important to invest in yourself.
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Like I have a very expensive stethoscope but it's because I
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invested in myself and you know, people are like that's a lot of
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money if they like $400 for my stethoscope.
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Well, it is a lot of money but I need something that's going to
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be beneficial for me while I'm working.
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But also when I'm not working, you know go get a massage, go
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get your car, clean go go do something like I like to you
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know invest in yourself, make sure Europe, you have peace.
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and, You know, just when you invest yourself in all areas of
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life, even doing something as like a pedicure or getting a
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mentor, to get to the next level or or anything in that nature,
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It could only be beneficial for you, and you shouldn't a lot of
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the time people. I feel like they say, oh, I
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can't do that. That's that's that's too
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expensive. Like no, like you're worth it.
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If you're worth it and what you're trying to go for, you
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feel like is worth it. Then you'll do anything to get
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Get there if you really want it. Yeah, absolutely.
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And what would you say to the people out there?
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Who are? You know, oftentimes like they
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realize okay yeah you know, I do need to give myself oxygen first
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before I keep you know helping other people with their masks.
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But how what would you say to people who are like yeah I
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understand I need to do that. But now how like where do I
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start? Yeah, well I think that to
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start, you know, if you they don't already have somebody that
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they can reach out to as a mentor.
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You know, a lot of there's so many, so many things out there
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that are just free and available for for help, you know,
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Pinterest has a million and one things to help with breath work
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and affirmations and YouTube is amazing.
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There's so many different YouTube's to go across and To
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learn, you know, and like I do that, honestly, for me, like,
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for every single test, every single interview, anything that
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I'm doing, I know somebody else has tried it already.
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So I just do an internet search. And you come across many
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different resources that will help you and guide you to a
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sense, you know, with, to get to, where you're going.
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And what, you want, what you want to attain you in life.
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Yeah. And I always say to like, if you
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don't sometimes people become So engrossed in their job.
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Like they figure out even what they love to do outside of work.
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Yeah. And so I always tell them like,
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figure out like what you love, what you enjoy doing and then
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just practice like slowly doing those things.
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And then they'll become something that you do want to
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put into your schedule, that's out.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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Definitely like, I mean, I, I picked up painting before too,
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and I didn't know I could paint and I can actually kind of
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paint. I really enjoy cooking, too.
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You know, so those are things that I make sure to incorporate,
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you know, outside of work. That make me happy, you know,
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give me joy. Yeah, yeah.
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And I know that you've also talked about just like being
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able to not sit still and stay on one thing task for a long
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time and you easily get distracted.
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So I think there's other people out there who have similar
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issues to you. How do you deal with that part
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of it? So my ADHD is horrible and I got
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diagnosed when I was in nursing school.
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So I was like, oh, my whole life makes sense.
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But what I found that I find what time of the day I most
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productive at. So for some people it's the
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morning is the evening like for me, waking up super, super
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early. It's just, it's not going to
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fly. I don't want to do that.
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I want to sleep, but I find that I am better.
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Maybe the late afternoon So I make sure that if I need to
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study, or I need to really focus on something, I'm going to
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schedule it into the time that I know that I'm most open and most
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relaxed. Like this is the time that I can
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take all of that in and just really getting to know yourself
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book. But time in the day you like
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most like, do you like waking up early in the morning because if
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you do well, then that might be good.
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Maybe before everybody else is awake, you know but that's what
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The thing that I do and then I started making lists.
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I never people always used to tell me like, oh you need a
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plan. We need a plan of my, I
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literally have a stack of planners that don't have
24:30
anything written in because it just was useless.
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I didn't it for me, it didn't work.
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But I started to make a little list on my phone and now I use
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that a lot and I had a little check boxes.
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I do that and it's definitely kept me more organized and it
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makes me feel accomplished when I can check things off the list.
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East and my like ADHD brain is like, yay!
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We got things done and it makes me feel super productive.
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But I also make sure not to make the list really big because if
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it's really large, I'm like I don't want to do anything, it's
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too much. So manageable things that I can
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actually obtain during the day and be like, yes yes, I love
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that. You really did the Deep dive and
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the work into knowing what your limitations were.
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Yeah, like and figuring out what really works for you.
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And I know that some of our sessions we have talked about it
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and it has been like, uncomfortable and hard to talk
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about. But I really think like you have
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honed in on what works the best for you and that's what's helped
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you be so successful too. Yeah, you know, it's always been
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difficult for me. I think to get really dig really
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deep and ask myself those questions, you know, the
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questions that that you and I would talk about like I just
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never got there. And I feel like I had a really
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rough childhood growing up and then it was, it was not okay, to
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be vulnerable. It was not okay to, you know,
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mess up or get something wrong or it was just not, you know, so
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you never allow your mind to get there.
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So when you do need to face your emotions or really ask deep
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questions in yourself, it's very uncomfortable and you know and
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you don't want to do it but You do when you're able to just find
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somebody that you trust that you can work with and helps you ask
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those hard questions and make it really they when you ask them
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like, oh, I guess there really wasn't that difficult or I'm
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answering the question like, oh, well, I guess I'm putting these
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thoughts on myself actually. Now that I'm saying it out loud.
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Sometimes you need that, you know, and you need to find
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yourself when you're uncomfortable when Your most
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productive, what you're feeling and you know why you feel that
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way. So that way you can know how to
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deal with it. I think it is hard for a lot of
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us in general just to be vulnerable like we want to stuff
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it down, you know and then often times it just like comes up
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until like this big volcano and it's harder to to get back to
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where we want to be, you know. Yeah so yeah, I agree like
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finding that person that you can trust it really talk about those
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tests situations or really Two are out like you're feeling so
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that you can move forward with it.
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Yeah, so just last question for you Vicky.
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I know you've had a lot of probably advice and people tell
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you poignant information, that's probably really helped you in
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your career so far. But what's one thing that you
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can remember or that you've kind of held on to that has propelled
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you to who you are today in your career?
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So, I have had the have been very fortunate to have like, my
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preceptor is different receptors that I've had throughout my
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nursing career have really been amazing.
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Amazing, people that I still talk to and hold very close to
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me. And one specifically I've known
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her. Since she was attacked, she
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became my educator. She became my supervisor, she
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became my manager, You know and she always told me, it doesn't
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matter what anybody says. You know you shouldn't do
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something this way. You shouldn't do something that
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way you should do it this way, like whatever path you find and
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that is something that you want to do.
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You do it doesn't matter what shortcuts you have to take or
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not or the long way in my case like what people would call the
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long way, you know you do what you have to do because at the
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end of the day that is going to make you Nurse and the person
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that you want to be, you know, everybody goes through things in
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life, whether we like it or not when and how it's supposed to
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happen. Yeah.
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And it's our responsibility to figure out what to learn from
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that and how to move forward. And that's one thing that I
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always like, keep close to me. Is that whenever something bad
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is happening, also, or I feel like something's Road blocking
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my way or a struggle. I No, like okay, well, what can
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I learn from this? And why everything happens for a
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reason, whether we see it now or later, you know, it might even
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be like that. Struggle that you went through
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is meant to keep you stronger for the next chapter in your
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life. Yeah, so that's, that was very
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important thing that she's always told me since we were
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texting each other. You know, I love that too.
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Because I think, you know, obviously, we all have
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experience of facing trials and obstacles.
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And then just remembering like, we Go back to our.
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Why do we want it? Like why do we want to get
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there? Like what's our reason reason
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why we want to do it, you know? And so I think that is really
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valuable to people to, you know, take that advice that you got
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to. So I think that's, that's great
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to be always thinking about that.
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Ya know, your why? Yeah, yeah.
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Well, thanks for being on Vicki today.
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I think there was like a lot of really good information and I
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really hope that someone hears your story and, you know, can
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relate and Apply it and help themselves in their lives if you
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know something sticks out to them that that they can either
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do better on or know that other people are going through.
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Similar situations. Yes, thanks for being on.
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Vicky will talk with you soon. Okay, thank you.
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Good night.