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Best of The Week: Jack Campbell's Injury, Brandon Aiyuk's Potential Return, NFL 4-Box · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: What is going on? This is John Middlecoff from the
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: 3 and Out podcast and this is the best of
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite takes, our best takes as we head
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  Speaker 1: on into football season. Yesterday, the Jack Campbell injury. You know, we,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm as guilty as anyone with this. The way
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  Speaker 1: we discuss football injuries when someone, you know, tears a labrum,
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  Speaker 1: tears an Achilles, breaks an arm, Lamar Jackson breaks a
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  Speaker 1: thumb or whatever he ended up doing. Out for this
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  Speaker 1: turf toe, the Ravens season's over. We all acknowledge that
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  Speaker 1: big picture he's going to be fine. He's not only
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  Speaker 1: going to play again, he'll play well again. He'll get
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  Speaker 1: another massive contract, whether it's from the Ravens or someone else.
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  Speaker 1: And for most of these guys, unless it's a catastrophic
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  Speaker 1: knee injury, which happens less and less with the improvements
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  Speaker 1: in modern medicine and the surgeries and the rehab, most
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  Speaker 1: of these guys come back. Now, are they ever quite
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  Speaker 1: at the same depending on their age? Obviously, there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of variables. And then there is a situation
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  Speaker 1: like what happened with Jack Campbell. And I just saw
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  Speaker 1: a clip of Dan Campbell speaking to the media, I
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  Speaker 1: think on Monday. And as of recording this, they have been...
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  Speaker 1: Mysterious is an unfair way to describe it because it's
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  Speaker 1: a very sensitive subject. And I think why a lot
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  Speaker 1: of us go... When guys get the neck-head injury where
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  Speaker 1: you're like, well, is he moving? Did something catastrophic happen?
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  Speaker 1: I would say typically, at least in recent memory, we
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  Speaker 1: have got an update by the end of the night that, hey,
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  Speaker 1: he's moving all of his extremities. It's trending in the
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  Speaker 1: right direction and everything's okay in terms of a movement standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't got that yet. And... While Dan had mentioned
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  Speaker 1: that everything's trending in the right direction, things are on
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  Speaker 1: the up and up, they have been extremely hesitant, and
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  Speaker 1: I totally understand being measured in this situation because clearly
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  Speaker 1: it was extremely serious as teammates were crying, of really
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  Speaker 1: saying much, which I think has made this situation scarier.
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  Speaker 1: And we don't get these that often, and we spend
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  Speaker 1: so much time of like, is Sirianni going to fire
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  Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator? They really got to pay Mike Norvell
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  Speaker 1: $ 50 million to go away? This guy sucks. Trade this guy.
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  Speaker 1: This is an extremely violent game, and you have these
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  Speaker 1: situations that could potentially be life-altering. And it's pretty rare,
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  Speaker 1: even in the NFL, right? Obviously, the DeMar Hamlin situation
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  Speaker 1: years ago was different, but dude almost died on the field.
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  Speaker 1: And miraculously he came back and, you know, by the
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  Speaker 1: next year he's playing. I mean, it was an incredible story.
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  Speaker 1: And it's easy to laugh about now. But I think
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  Speaker 1: most of us that consume football, obviously those of us
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  Speaker 1: that do what I do for a living, will never
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  Speaker 1: forget where we were when that moment happened. And it's
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  Speaker 1: got to be one of the most jolting things I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen on a football field.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 1: while they're not apples to apples, it was pretty clear
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  Speaker 1: that how they kept coming back and then going back
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  Speaker 1: to break, like this is not good. And I think
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  Speaker 1: it brings to light, I mean, this is an extremely
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  Speaker 1: violent game. And the league has been proactive. The sport
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  Speaker 1: has been proactive down to high school football. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when I was a kid, padded football, you could play
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  Speaker 1: in like elementary school and junior high. We had basketball.
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  Speaker 1: it was called, I don't think it's no way in Davis.
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  Speaker 1: I've said this before. They're calling it. It's called junior midgets, midgets.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, a lot of towns did it and
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  Speaker 1: they ran the same offense building up to when you
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  Speaker 1: got to JV football, high school football. So it was
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  Speaker 1: like a seamless transition, which now they have changed that
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  Speaker 1: to become much more flag football centric. And I think,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm guilty of this as well, complaining about the
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  Speaker 1: NFL becoming, you know, like a flag football league. But
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  Speaker 1: there is no officiating the pure collisions out of the game.
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  Speaker 1: And stuff that sometimes feels extremely violent, guys hop right
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  Speaker 1: back up in no one's face. And then a tackle
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  Speaker 1: like that happened in the Lions game, which I think most,
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  Speaker 1: I bet Lions fans would agree with this, the collision
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  Speaker 1: with Branch and the defensive linemen felt more vicious than
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  Speaker 1: and violent, and the collision jumped off the television more
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  Speaker 1: than the Jack Campbell tackle. But it's hard to, and I've,
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  Speaker 1: even when I worked in the NFL, I watched the
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  Speaker 1: game from the press box, or I guess Howie's box,
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  Speaker 1: if it was, you know, a big enough game, you know,
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  Speaker 1: wives weekends, though I was single at the time, but
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. I've never watched an NFL game from
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  Speaker 1: the sideline, except when I started going to the, when
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  Speaker 1: I did the radio, And at Candlestick, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they do this around the league anymore. They used to
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  Speaker 1: allow the media to go on the field with five
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  Speaker 1: minutes left in the game. And I've been to a
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  Speaker 1: million training camp practices and regular season practices and college practices.
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  Speaker 1: But practice in a game is a lot different. And
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  Speaker 1: I'll never forget Monday Night Football, the last game at Candlestick,
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  Speaker 1: it was the Falcons against the 49ers. And Matt Ryan
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  Speaker 1: was leading them down the field. And I just remember
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  Speaker 1: the speed of in which from the snap to when
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  Speaker 1: he had to get rid of the ball because the
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  Speaker 1: pass rush was all over him. And I did this
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  Speaker 1: for a living. I scouted these players. I then talked
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  Speaker 1: about these players. It was as eye-opening experience as I'd
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  Speaker 1: ever had in the game up to that point. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was 2013. And the game was kind of,
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  Speaker 1: it ended essentially with Matt Ryan throwing what was considered
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  Speaker 1: the pick at the stick. I think it bounced off
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  Speaker 1: Roddy White and Navarro Bowman picked it off and went
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  Speaker 1: the other way. And actually, me and Guy Haberman were
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  Speaker 1: standing right next to Chris Berman at the time. And
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  Speaker 1: I just remember the speed and the size. The game
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  Speaker 1: was definitely more violent in terms of the league, the
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  Speaker 1: way they officiated was completely different in 2013 than it
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  Speaker 1: is in 2026. But it does, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: humanize is the right way to put it, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it brings into light that I heard someone say
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  Speaker 1: this recently, that the crazy part about the sport of
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  Speaker 1: football in college, but definitely the pros, because it's a
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  Speaker 1: job and you can get cut at any moment. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of can in college football now, but truly,
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  Speaker 1: if you have a bad game and you're not one
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  Speaker 1: of the handful of players on a bigger contract you
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  Speaker 1: can just be released on Monday a lot like us
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  Speaker 1: like we can just get fired right we just show
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  Speaker 1: up to work and it's like hey uh Bill needs
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  Speaker 1: to see an HR that's the NFL unlike these other
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  Speaker 1: sports where every penny is guaranteed on these contracts I mean,
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: in basketball, it's like players' options. Pretty rare to get players'
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  Speaker 1: options in the NFL. You're kind of fighting for your
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  Speaker 1: job on a weekly basis. Definitely on a yearly basis, right?
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  Speaker 1: You can go from the penthouse to the outhouse, back
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  Speaker 1: to the penthouse to the outhouse, over and over in football.
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  Speaker 1: And to watch, you know, a guy's career and life
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  Speaker 1: be altered, you know, I think we talk so much
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  Speaker 1: about these injuries. Like, oh, he's on injured reserve. He
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  Speaker 1: can come back in four weeks or he can rehab.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he'll be back in two months and We just
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  Speaker 1: kind of become numb to it, but basically every game
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  Speaker 1: in the pregame locker room, when you say a pregame
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  Speaker 1: prayer or you say a pregame kind of pump-up speech,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of know that some of the guys you're
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  Speaker 1: going out to battle with are not going to be
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  Speaker 1: in the locker room when you come back. And that's
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  Speaker 1: on a weekly basis. It is extremely rare in a
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  Speaker 1: football game that someone doesn't get injured, especially nowadays, that
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  Speaker 1: someone doesn't go into the locker, KO'd for the game.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought this last week, I mean, the level of,
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  Speaker 1: let's face it, you had to have a little mental insanity.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how many people, how many workplaces, Christian Watson
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday night was spitting up blood, went to the
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  Speaker 1: hospital in an ambulance and said, I want to go
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  Speaker 1: back and play. And they're like, well, everything looks pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: You can if you want. And sat in the shotgun
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  Speaker 1: and they drove him back and he ran back on
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  Speaker 1: the field and played. so I, I, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if we quite give the players, uh, you know, truly
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  Speaker 1: enough credit, what they're truly putting on the line every
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  Speaker 1: single week. I mean, I, like everybody, you hope Jack Campbell,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the captain of the team, clearly someone as
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  Speaker 1: important of a person in that locker room. I think
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  Speaker 1: Dan and Aiden Hutchinson and Amin Ra and all those
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  Speaker 1: guys would agree as they've had during this run in
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  Speaker 1: terms of leadership, intensity, setting the tone, uh, And you
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  Speaker 1: just hope everything's going to be okay. Because this is
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  Speaker 1: the worst case scenario, potentially. I mean, again, he sounded
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  Speaker 1: pretty optimistic, but they've just refused to say anything concrete about, well,
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  Speaker 1: everything's going to be okay, this is where he's at.
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  Speaker 1: Which is really scary. And yeah, it's an eye-opening moment
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL season, that's for sure. The other thing
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  Speaker 1: talking about unraveling really quickly is Brandon Ayuk. And when
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  Speaker 1: you look at the NFL, a lot of players get
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  Speaker 1: second chances. for heinous things. Things that are honestly unrelatable
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of human beings. When some of these
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  Speaker 1: stories come out about NFL players, I think it's hard
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  Speaker 1: for the average fan who consumes football to go, what
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  Speaker 1: did he do? What the fuck just happened? And it's
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  Speaker 1: been happening my whole life. And when you're not any good,
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  Speaker 1: they just get rid of you and we don't hear
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  Speaker 1: about that player anymore. But it also happens historically to
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  Speaker 1: prominent names. And guess what happens to those guys? They
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  Speaker 1: get second chances. And I would say typically those guys,
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  Speaker 1: at least to the general manager, to the owner, to
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  Speaker 1: their head coach, try to take responsibility, take accountability, wear it, right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, not lie because when they get caught in lies,
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  Speaker 1: that's usually when they get released or whatever. But they
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  Speaker 1: tend to have, I would say, at least behind closed doors,
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  Speaker 1: be vulnerable and honest about the mistakes they've made. And
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: teams end up looking the other way because of the
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  Speaker 1: talent they possess. Well, I always thought Brandon Ayuk was
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  Speaker 1: a little overrated, given how much wide receivers we're going
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  Speaker 1: to make. And I said it going back a couple
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  Speaker 1: years ago, I'm not giving him $ 30 million a year. Like,
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  Speaker 1: trade the player, especially in this offense. Now, this was
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  Speaker 1: before the guy fell off the deep end and also
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  Speaker 1: got injured. But even in the peak of his powers, again, really,
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  Speaker 1: really good player. But Kyle's never going to have a
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver unless it's like Mike Evans or Julio Jones,
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  Speaker 1: who he's going to want the guy to catch 95
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  Speaker 1: to 100 balls. And obviously, Mike's not going to do
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  Speaker 1: it this year because of the injuries. But what Brandon
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  Speaker 1: Ayoub did post the injury up until a month ago
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  Speaker 1: of every single day on social media, constantly... degrading, talking
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  Speaker 1: shit about his organization, his head coach, his general manager,
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  Speaker 1: his teammates. I'd argue in a weird way, from a
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  Speaker 1: football perspective, from employing a red flag guy, that's about
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  Speaker 1: as bad as you can get. Because at least when
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: I employ a guy who's had issues off the field
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  Speaker 1: that are heinous and where normal humans go to jail
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  Speaker 1: and somehow they avoid, guess what? The judicial system in America...
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  Speaker 1: Rewards cash, and a lot of these guys have it,
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  Speaker 1: and they're able to circumvent going to prison, where it
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: feels like a lot of us in those scenarios would
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  Speaker 1: be in the clink. But that's the way the world works.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Have some money, you got a chance to fight it.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: Glove doesn't quit, you got to quit. Just watch the
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  Speaker 1: Norm MacDonald documentary. God, that guy just was relentless on OJ.
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  Speaker 1: But Ayuk, his stretch for it felt like a year
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  Speaker 1: plus that was... You'd watch and you'd go, this guy
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  Speaker 1: needs help. Does this guy have CTE from a knee injury?
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  Speaker 1: Why does this guy keep talking about the GM and
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: the head coach and his former teammates? Does this guy
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: ever want to play football again? Those are things that
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: terrify teams. And he's not good enough, given that he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't played in years, given that he's coming off a
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  Speaker 1: major injury, that you overlook that. Any team, and again,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see if this comes to fruition. He actually shows up.
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  Speaker 1: He gets his release. Who knows? Kyle Shanahan was asked
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: about it today. Was as dismissive as you can get.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about a guy, you know, he
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: can professionally handle it with the camera on, but that
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: despises that guy and clearly regrets his decision to not
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: allow them to trade him and pay him because Kyle
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: deserves blame there. They were about to trade him, and
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  Speaker 1: Kyle made sure that that trade did not happen, and
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  Speaker 1: then he got this massive contract, and then literally just
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  Speaker 1: quit on the team, which the 49ers are littered with
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  Speaker 1: guys who care a lot. NIU clearly does not. And
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: when you get guys that don't care about football, when
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  Speaker 1: you get guys that are wild cards to publicly diss
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  Speaker 1: on coaching staffs, general managers, teammates, I can't see how
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  Speaker 1: any general manager worth their salt would take the risk
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  Speaker 1: of bringing this guy into their locker room and poisoning it.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's what, to me, this guy has proven to be.
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  Speaker 1: The risk of bringing this toxicity into your locker room,
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  Speaker 1: you can't be shocked when you're dating a stripper and
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: she starts sleeping with someone else. If your relationship started
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: with you and your significant other cheating on your significant
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  Speaker 1: others at the time, You cannot be stunned later on
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: if that happens to you by her because that's how
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  Speaker 1: you met her. Eventually, there are clues of who a
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  Speaker 1: person is, and this guy showed us for a long
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: period of time. On top of, I saw David Lombardi
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  Speaker 1: tweet out. He covers the 49ers. He still has outstanding
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  Speaker 1: warrants in the Bay Area for driving around at 90
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  Speaker 1: miles an hour and 25 mile an hour zones. This
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  Speaker 1: guy's a clown. This guy, we've got this balance of
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  Speaker 1: where you want to feel empathy for someone. He's going
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  Speaker 1: through some stuff mentally. And there gets to a point
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  Speaker 1: of like, bro, put down the phone. Like, you do
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  Speaker 1: not need to be doing this. And it was just relentless.
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  Speaker 1: So I would say that any general manager that is
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  Speaker 1: in need of a wide receiver, and clearly there are many,
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  Speaker 1: anyone that brings this guy, and listen, it's teams because
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: it's Rosenhaus. It's an I scratch your back, you scratch
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: my back. That's kind of how deals are done. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to be shocked at all if he comes in,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: if he's released for visits or whatever. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: think there would be anything this guy could tell me
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  Speaker 1: where I would feel confident and comfortable that he wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: do something stupid. And then they might say, well, it's
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  Speaker 1: a low risk. If something happens, we will just cut him.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, why would you even want that PR? Why
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: would you even want to do that? What has this
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: guy proven? Like, I do understand with all the smoke
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: around Tyreek Hill, now his knee might never work again,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: that if he was completely healthy, even if the Dolphins
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: had just moved on, why everyone in the league would
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: be interested. Like, all-time great talent. And a proven guy
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  Speaker 1: that you could go to war with in big games.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: This guy, like, to get... The 49ers just had a guy,
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  Speaker 1: Terrence Achilles, in a playoff game. Week one came, and
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  Speaker 1: he was ready to roll. Brandon Ayuk literally just stopped
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  Speaker 1: showing up to rehab appointments and cost himself $ 25- plus million
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  Speaker 1: in guaranteed money. You know how stupid you have to
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: be to cost yourself that much money when all you
• 16:29
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these are a lot of playoff teams playing
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: teams they're going to be drafting. I mean, if you
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: go Kansas City as a playoff team, Detroit's probably a
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: playoff team. The Rams will probably end up being a
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: playoff team. Obviously, Denver's a playoff team. I mean, you're
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: talking about teams... Some of these teams are going to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: be drafting in the top five. I mean, the Jets
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: are going to be drafting in the top five. That
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: being said, I kind of like the Jets and the points.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Colts might not win another game unless
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: they beat the Cowboys. J.J. McCarthy. at Philadelphia is pretty fascinating. But, like,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: what are you even supposed to do with this slate?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, seriously. I think the Jets is just entertainment
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: from the standpoint of What's Aaron Glenn going to do
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: this week? I do think the number's pretty big for
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. One thing about the Jets is they can
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: score some points. Chiefs are a little banged up. Peter
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Woods messed up his neck. Delane's shoulder, I think it's
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: a carryover from earlier this season. It's something to keep
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: an eye on. I probably like the Jets and the points,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: though it's like, are you going to bet on the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: New York Jets? Detroit at Miami. The one thing I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: was thinking... And this goes for Miami with Tony as well.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: It's different, obviously. I mean, one guy's in the hospital.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: He just got feeling back in his lower body. Hopefully
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: he gains it back in his upper body. Team captain,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a core guy that has been with their core group
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: of guys, which is a really high-level group. To me,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: they either go down like they got two options. It's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: an all-time rally for Jack. Like, we're going to go
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: out and we're going to beat the shit out of
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: this team that does play hard, but should not be
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: even in the same conversation with us if we play,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know, a B plus game, A minus game.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: We could beat this team by 20. Or it's one
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: of those where it's been really difficult for a lot
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of our guys to focus. It's been heavy on this
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: team the whole week. The guy is laying in a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: hospital bed. fighting for movement in his body. One of
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: their team captains. One of the guys that Dan and
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the rest of their team goes out of the way
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: to talk about. So, I'm going to lean because of
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Dan and his ability to unite, his ability to uplift.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of his great skills. He's actually
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: kind of, when I think Dan Campbell... obviously you want
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to avoid these moments like the plague, but sometimes they're
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: just inevitable. He's the type guy you would want in
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: this situation leading your football team because I would expect
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Detroit to have a pretty spirited effort. Like I'm going
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: to hammer the Lions this week, but I'll be the
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: first to it. It is risky. If you tell me
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: they look like shit, they end up losing this game.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Like it's totally understandable. And it comes out, you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: it was really hard. Like, It was just tough on
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys. That's a moment where you just–
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough situation. But I'm going to
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: bet on Dan. I'm going to bet on kind of
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: their core group kind of rallying it around for Jack Campbell. But, yeah,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's– I don't even know what else to
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: say on that one. Shador's playing, which– I'm over Deshaun Watson.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: We've all seen it enough. I know their record has
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: been pretty good, right? I mean, they were 5-2 going
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: into that Steeler game. But anyone acting like he had
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: been good or a big reason they were winning is
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: not watching them play. I think in a perfect world,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Shador just looks solid win or lose this week, and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you just keep rolling with that. They become... way more
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: like they were interesting in the sense that the Browns
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: never win they started winning games I do think they
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: got a huge slice of humble pie by the Steelers
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: who let's face it aren't even that good I mean
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have a solid record but they're a pretty
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: flawed team given the DK Metcalf blows and uh they
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: don't really like their passing game is just gonna struggle
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: right so I at That's why I'm paying attention to
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that game. I guess Jordan Tyson might come back. I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: saw he said that he's faster than ever. Receivers are
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: always saying that. Yeah, faster than ever. It's like, bro,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you've had like 18 hamstring injuries. I do think the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: thing with the Eagles, I don't blame them. I saw
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Nick Foles had some comments about he thought that Tanner
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: McKee should have got another week for backup quarterbacks. You
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: start getting in a groove. The more games you start playing,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: it's like, Nick, I understand what you're saying. And it's
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: not totally his fault. It's a total operational failure. It's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: not all on one individual. But the Eagles, they're in
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: desperation mode. And because of their limitations, Tanner McKee can't
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: make miraculous plays. And is Joe Milton any good? I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: don't know. But at least there's some hope there. And
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: this franchise, this brand, specifically this coach, is in desperate
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: need of some hope. Because right now, they feel dead.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Like they feel... Think about some of these other shittier teams.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Like Miami has more life. Like if I just read
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you off the bad teams playing, Dallas, Indy, the Jets, Miami,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: even the Saints... Like all those teams have a little more,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the Eagles feel completely dead on arrival. So that's why
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: you go to the bullpen. You just hope to spark
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: something because what you're doing week after week, not only
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: is not working, it's getting worse. And it feels like
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: it's bleeding into the defense, which is playing like crap,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: but still has good players. So maybe you spark some
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: life into them. And then obviously the big question in
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: this game is like, coming off of a bye has,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you know, has had now, ton of extra days to
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: study the playbook, get on the same page with the coaches,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: continue to grow in the offense, gain a rapport with
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: his weapons, though I saw neighbors miss practice today, which
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: would be a pretty big... You just never know with
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: injuries in the NFL, but neighbors and J.J. McCarthy have
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: had a massive I would say just explosion and connection
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: so far when he got into the game. I mean,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: they put him in at halftime. What game was that?
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Was that the Commanders game? Was that the game they tied?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Was that the week after? That was the week after.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: They play the Texans. When did J.J. make his debut?
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Where's J.J. McCarthy? Where's the Giants? Who'd they play? Oh,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the Saints. Came in against the Saints. Were they lost
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: at halftime and then the Texans? So, it's a big story.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, it just is. Especially now Kyler's injured. Which
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: is like, you know what Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: do a good job of? If someone will finish the game,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: you'll think everything's fine. And then they'll tell you, but
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: they're playing like shit. And then the guy will just
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: be injured. You're like, is he truly injured or are
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you doing a soft benching? Because it felt like they
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: did that last year with J.J. McCarthy. He was just like,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: give him some random injury. It was like ankle sprain,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: elbow tendinitis. It was just give him random injuries. It's like, well,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: he just played terribly. And then you would just do
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a soft benching, but you don't want to come out.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And maybe this is the quarterback in Kevin O'Connell. If
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I wanted to go conspiracy theory, that they just make
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: up injuries to bench a guy because they don't want
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: to crush him because he's very sensitive to that as
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a former quarterback. And then they can insert Wentz and make...
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Is Bosmer a BYU guy? I think he's the backup quarterback.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And Kyler just takes a week off. It's almost like
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: one of those when you're a little kid and you
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: get in trouble. It's like, go to your room and
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: cool off. It's like, Kyler, just... I think Call of
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Duty come out tomorrow? You better believe hamstring injury not starting.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Dude is going to game. But that game, they're not
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: playing until Monday night. Uh... The Rams lost– I mean,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the Rams have had a lot of injuries, though it
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: looks like Myles Garrett, whether he plays this weekend, is
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: definitely coming back. Denver at Carolina. I saw that Carolina's
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: new Walsh, their new defensive coordinator, Todd Walsh, he's been
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator before, was asked about his, like, coaching style,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and he started crying, which I found myself, maybe this
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: is having a child, maybe it's just aging, maybe it's
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: just you think about things as you go through life.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I get emotional now more than ever. So I'm not
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: trying to laugh or make fun. I cry over things
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: now or get that feeling inside that I can't even
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: imagine having that happen to me like five, ten years ago.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: So sometimes people get amped up. But typically in press conferences,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: when it's like, describe your coaching philosophy, guys just don't
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: start crying. But he did. I don't know if that
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: makes me like him or short the Panthers more. I'm
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: kind of out on the Panthers. Just based on the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: simple fact, it doesn't feel like right now they can
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: block for him at all. And now you're playing Denver,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: who can get after your ass. We saw what the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Packers did last week. Micah Parsons was in sweats. What's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: it going to look like against this unit? So, Houston
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: at the, I mean, the Chargers are just, if the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Chargers could simulate the rest of the season and just
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: wave the white flag and just be like, we quit.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: We're just over it. Because every time it's like, well,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the Chargers are getting points at home. Put money on
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the Chargers. Dare you. Done it a lot this year.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Every single time it gets worse. They are an unwatchable squad.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Problem is, Houston, if I could have a beer with
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Casario and it doesn't look like he drinks, I mean,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: he's got like 3% body fat, I'd go, I understand
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: that you had a need at wide receiver, and I
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: understand that your quarterback surely vouched for his former teammate,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: but you've been doing this a long time. And I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: even get that the Cardinals are a chaotic organization, and
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: He had lost his confidence. He knew the coaches didn't
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: like him. But even if Monty Ossenfort, who's a buddy
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: of yours, that you fleeced once upon a time to
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: get Will Anderson, just keeps saying no, how could you
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: offer a second-round pick based on how he had played?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And honestly, even just watching him the last time they played,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: that's not his value given how he was playing. I'll
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: never understand that. I really won't. To me, that's got
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: a conditional setup written all over it. It's like, listen,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: we will take the problem off your hand, but a
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: top 50 pick, and you're a couple more losses all
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: of a sudden for that pick being really, really valuable.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: They just benefited from it last year, from the Laramie
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Tunzel trade, when they got the Commander second-round pick. Well,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: going into the year, the Commanders felt pretty good about it,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: and then they had a year from hell, and that
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: pick turned out to be a top 40 pick. I just...
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: No one would give a top 45 pick right now
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: for Marvin Harrison Jr. Vegas at San Francisco. I heard
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Greg Cosell today. I was in the car. He said
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: since Bowers came back in like week three, they're in
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: a two tight end, basically offense, 80 plus percent of
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the time, which makes sense. They don't really have wide receivers.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I do think this is a pretty tough spot for
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the Raiders. The 49ers coming off a bye. They trade
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: for Buckner. They're getting Bosa back. This gets to the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Pennix thing. When they got lit up by Pennix, their
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: issue was their pass rush didn't exist. They even got
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: close to him. They had three pressures in the game.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: And I think Pennix was the offensive player of the week.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: When you can hit Pennix and just get around his feet,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: he is done. Cousins is the same way. They cannot move.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: So if you can rush the passer, which adding Bosa,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: who should have fresh legs, And adding Buckner, who's just
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: already in the mix of it, with Osa, like they
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: should get after Cousins' ass. And the thing with the
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Raiders is they cannot rush the football. Jenty is a
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: disaster for them. Got benched last week. So if you
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: can't rush the ball, and if you can just now listen,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the 49ers, their slot corners banged up. One of their
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: starting safeties is banged up. How you cover Bowers is
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: very difficult. Right? But it's like, okay, he'll catch... 7
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: for 90. Cool. And a touchdown. Great. Who else is
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: making plays? And if they can't run the ball and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: they are in passing down situations, if we pressure Cousins,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that's when he'll fold. And I mean fold not from like,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: he's some pussy. I just mean like he can't, if
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: he can't set his feet, his arm's not strong enough,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: this is the Pennix thing. Everything has to be perfect
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: for them to deliver the strikes. And he's had some
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: games where that is and he's put up big numbers.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Now the 49ers, Mike Evans is going to be out,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: which is pretty concerning because it's not necessarily just because
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: they're going to miss him this game. It's because he's
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: got an Achilles injury, and it's like, is it one
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: of those things? I've always had a theory that an
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Achilles injury is like wear and tear. So once you
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: start seeing the sore Achilles, it's like when you look
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: at your tire, you're like, this thing doesn't have much
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: longer left. And I feel like a lot of guys
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: with sore Achilles end up popping the Achilles. Now, I
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: think Mike Evans was telling John Lynch like three weeks ago,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I've dealt with this last year, I know how to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: manage it, but he leaves the game a couple weeks ago,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: then he misses the bye week and he's still not ready,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: which is not ideal. Debo's out, but McCaffrey, Kittle, this
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: is the type of game for the 49ers. You just
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: handle the Raiders because they should not be able to
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: do much to you on offense if you can get
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: after Cousins. And the marquee game, I mean, this is
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: a pretty cool story. You know, Tom Brady. I saw
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Chris Russo like, this is, why is everyone talking about this? Like,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know, he's Tom Brady. He's going back to
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Foxborough as a broadcaster. That's pretty cool. And Gronkowski's getting,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: going into the Patriot Hall of Fame. Like, it's kind
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: of a big weekend with two of the most prominent
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: players in the history of the league and many that
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: we consider the greatest quarterback of all time going to
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the place that fucking made him who he is. Which,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, he played a huge part in that. But, like,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: that venue, when you think about Tom Brady games, you
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: think about him at Foxboro. Because they were always the
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: one or two seed. They were hosting all the games.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: That's where some of the most prominent moments of his career, really,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: in the internet era, happened. Those games, in that venue,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: and it's been weird. Like, there's no really way to
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: argue that he has... I would say struggled post, like
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: when he went to Tampa and then as a broadcaster
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: to associate himself with the Patriots. And like some guys,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: when they play somewhere, they stay there and they live forever,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: even if they're not from there. Some guys, even if
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: they get traded or move on, come back to that
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: place and that's their home. Other guys, for whatever reason,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: like Tom Brady, clearly doesn't want to live in Boston. Right?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: And doesn't associate himself that closely with the Patriots. But
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Vrabel's their coach, who he didn't even pick last year
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. He's like, yeah, I'm kind of indifferent.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Just want to see a good game. And everyone got
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: really offended by that. It's like, guys, people often ask me, like, John,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: how big of a 49er fan are you? I said,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a lot. Not nearly as big as, like, my wife.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I want them to win, but, like,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I'll gladly bet against them. If you told me that
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: they lose and it's better for my show, I will say, well,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I want them to lose. I care about what I'm
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: doing now. My fandom has kind of gone out the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: window because I care most about stories. I care most
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: about what's going to be best for the show. I
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: care best what's going to be most interesting. Don't get
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: me wrong. If you told me if you could choose
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: a team to win the Super Bowl, I'd be like
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the 49ers. But if you told me our revenue and
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: our listenership would be triple if the 49ers lost the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl and someone else won, then I would choose
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: that every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: So now that Tom Brady's money is working for the Raiders,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: they call him and ask him advice for their football team.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: The Patriots don't do that. And now in the job
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: he's at, you just start meeting other people. Like I
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: told people this and they couldn't believe it. In 2019,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: when the 49ers lost to the Chiefs, I was rooting
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. I wanted to see Coach Reed win
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. It was a pretty emotional moment because
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: just how much it meant to him, how long he
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: had been so close the way they wanted. I remember
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: getting kind of emotional sitting on my couch after they
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: had that comeback victory. And I just think people struggle.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: And obviously Tom, he played for the team forever. But
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: it's like, at the end of the day, Tom's a businessman.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: And if you watch Tom now and doing all these
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: different marketing deals, kind of a, I say this not
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: as a criticism, kind of a horror. I mean, we
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: all kind of are. Business comes first. Like, he's not
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: a patriot anymore. You know, he's just, he's not. I
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: don't think he cares nearly as much. I think it's
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: hard for people to understand. It doesn't mean, like, once
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: he's in the arena and he sees Gronk, like, it
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: brings back up a lot of great memories. But you
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: can have great memories and not be obsessed like you
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: once were. Things change. Life changes. Business changes. And clearly
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: for Tom, it has dramatically. That being said, I would
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: imagine there's going to be a moment in this game,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: probably early on, where they show him on the Jumbotron
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: and the place goes nuts. And that'll be pretty cool.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I also kind of like the Packers in this spot.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, coming off a long week, as of recording this,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm going to assume Parson plays. I don't
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: know why. I mean, he was kind of mum about it.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: But the way he said it, he's like, I don't
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: want to say anything. Give them an advantage. You know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, Drake Mays playing out of his mind. But, like,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: how many times can you throw to Pop Douglas? The
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: night game, Tampa at Chicago. One thing I do wonder
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: about Tampa in this game is, like, You are going
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: to have to throw. You are going to have to
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: score some points. Clearly last week playing the driving rainstorm.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I don't blame them at all. But like Baker's hand,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Tristan Wirfs I saw today got injured. I don't know
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: if it was a practice or something lingering with a toe.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Something to keep an eye on. The Jeffrey Simmons momentum.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: If you look at on ESPN when I look at
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: the schedule, they have basically the cheapest price to get
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: into the game. I mean, you could go to the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Saints game for $ 30. You could go to the
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Eagles game for like $ 85. The two most expensive games
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: are the Raiders playing the Niners. Makes sense, right? Raiders
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: coming back to the Bay Area. Probably going to be
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of just people that want to go to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: that game to see the team that they rooted for
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: forever in Oakland and Chicago. And it has nothing to
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: do with the opponents because we're playing at home. And
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: we're fucking going to win the Super Bowl. That's what
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: everyone's thinking. So the momentum. what's going to be interesting
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: about Ben Johnson is probably more than ever during his
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: short tenure as the Bears head coach, everyone, there's like
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: substance behind the hype now. And the media and everyone
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: anointing them. So this has always been like what Belichick
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: was good at, Coach Reed's good at this, Saban was
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: elite at this, is how do you kind of instill
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: a little humble pie into the building and not get
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: too high on your own press clippings, which would be understandable. Now,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: it probably helps having Jeffrey Simmons, who comes from just
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: a wasteland of losing, to just kind of infuse a
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: little life. Like, guys, this is really sweet. I don't
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: want this to end. But Tampa's defense is good, and
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: they got some momentum coming in. Yeah, I mean, I
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: think I like the Bears big in this game, but
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: if you told me this game gets weird, I could see.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating. If the Bears just keep
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: it rolling and look like they haven't skipped a beat,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: then it shows you Ben Johnson is pretty, pretty dialed.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: The Volume.