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Managers AJ Hinch, Walt Weiss and Blake Butera join FT · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: A. J.
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  Speaker 2: Hinchtager's manager with us right now, Ajinski, why don't you
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  Speaker 2: tell him what's been going on at the winter meetings
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  Speaker 2: so far?
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  Speaker 3: Did you hear him? No, you can't hear him. He
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  Speaker 3: wants to know.
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  Speaker 4: I want you to tell him what's been going on,
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  Speaker 4: like you want me want to tell him?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I said that the Guardians traded for show, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: Mookie and Freddie in the last hour, and schoobl went
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  Speaker 5: to the Dodgers, and then Carpenter, green Dingler Torkelsen went
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  Speaker 5: to the Royals.
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  Speaker 6: I don't like any part of I don't like any
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  Speaker 6: part of your fantasy.
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  Speaker 5: The other thing I'll say about Hinch, all the managers
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  Speaker 5: we've had on and all the managers we talked to,
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  Speaker 5: I think you're the one.
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  Speaker 3: Guy that enjoys us.
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  Speaker 6: It's which part to all the media and all the
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  Speaker 6: people your people?
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  Speaker 7: Ah not when not when you're gonna trade like all
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  Speaker 7: my whole team, and like everybody wants to ask me
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  Speaker 7: questions about about Schoobl, But I I I do like
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  Speaker 7: the industry togetherness at an event, like it's like my
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  Speaker 7: favorite times at this event is like last night with
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  Speaker 7: like eight managers, you know, around a round table, just
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  Speaker 7: kind of catching up and small fraternity of of guys
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  Speaker 7: who have the same job, And I like that part
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  Speaker 7: of it. Walking through the lobby of this place is
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  Speaker 7: a is an experience in itself. But I guess I've
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  Speaker 7: been in the game long enough to be connected to
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  Speaker 7: a lot of different people. The quick hello is is great.
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  Speaker 7: The camaraderie with the managers is great. You come on
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  Speaker 7: shows like this and you trade my entire roster, I'm
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  Speaker 7: not great at all.
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  Speaker 4: We have a nicer person than to ask you a question.
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  Speaker 8: Did you invite Blake Terra to that little roundtable or
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  Speaker 8: is he not? Does he not count yet because he's
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  Speaker 8: not a big league manager.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I haven't met him yet. He wasn't there
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  Speaker 7: last night. We we will definitely see him. We have
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  Speaker 7: some some a manager meeting tomorrow where we're gonna sort
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  Speaker 7: of unveil everybody around the around the table. But if
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  Speaker 7: I see him, I'd love to talk to him. Don't
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  Speaker 7: backgnize if he looks like one of the kids looking
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  Speaker 7: for a job.
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  Speaker 6: And you know what's funny is feel in these jobs.
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  Speaker 6: And I know you guys probably feel old as the
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  Speaker 6: players get younger.
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  Speaker 7: Is is I was that guy like fifteen years ago
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  Speaker 7: with no experience, kind of rolling into the winter meetings
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  Speaker 7: and it's like Bobby Cox, Tito Gaston, Tony LaRussa, uh,
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  Speaker 7: Dusty Baker, and I'm like, I look twelve compared to
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  Speaker 7: these dudes.
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  Speaker 3: We just had Torion.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and he he asked us about Utera and
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  Speaker 5: I'm sitting here talking to him and I'm like, he
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  Speaker 5: could be my son.
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  Speaker 3: I don't feel that old, but when I look at him,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like my kid.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, No, it's I mean, he's got a challenge ahead
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  Speaker 7: of himself, just in terms of, like, you know, the
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  Speaker 7: the knowing what to do. The baseball part will be
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  Speaker 7: really easy. It's all this extra stuff that I think
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  Speaker 7: you learn over the years, the communication up to the
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  Speaker 7: to the front off as the the media is the
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  Speaker 7: the challenges ahead. But if if they didn't believe in him,
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  Speaker 7: they wouldn't have picked them. And I think he's I'm
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  Speaker 7: curious to get to know him because I want to
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  Speaker 7: learn like what he and others. I mean, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 7: looking forward to Albi in this role. Albi's never done it,
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  Speaker 7: He's been in baseball forever. I think that's gonna be
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  Speaker 7: That's gonna be awesome, and we have a new a
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  Speaker 7: new group joining this small fraternity. And once you're in,
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  Speaker 7: you're in, and I and I think you'll have a
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  Speaker 7: lot of support around them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, go ahead, Kratzy.
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  Speaker 8: Oh no, I was just gonna say, do you think
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  Speaker 8: teams need to stay away from hiring guys who they
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  Speaker 8: feel like they can control? When you can see a
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  Speaker 8: young manager, you say, oh, I can control. And I
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  Speaker 8: remember hearing some of your stories that you told me
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  Speaker 8: about when you were first managing, and you're like, ah, crap,
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  Speaker 8: shouldn't have done that. Learn from it, and you've become
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  Speaker 8: the manager that you are now. But do you think
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  Speaker 8: teams need to stay away from that because they're setting
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  Speaker 8: themselves in the organization back or do you think there
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  Speaker 8: is a value in that if you're at a certain
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  Speaker 8: spot in an organization.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think the value is separating support
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  Speaker 7: with directives that they're very different. Like you need support
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  Speaker 7: around you as a young manager in a in a
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  Speaker 7: in a very isolated job in your office, right, so,
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  Speaker 7: like you're trying to to execute everything you can to
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  Speaker 7: win that day's game, or win that series, or win
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  Speaker 7: that month or when that that that record and and
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  Speaker 7: you're trying to combine that with a lot of things.
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  Speaker 7: If you're getting directives that you that that you're getting
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  Speaker 7: too much things that you have to do, you're going
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  Speaker 7: to lose your instincts. And managing is still is still
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  Speaker 7: about instincts, and it's still about feel for players and
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  Speaker 7: feel for humans and feel for moments. And you combine
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  Speaker 7: that with all the data that we get, like those
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  Speaker 7: are the best run organizations. In my opinion is you
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  Speaker 7: can have support from above and be perfectly fine. You
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  Speaker 7: start getting directives and it gets to be a make
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  Speaker 7: a tough job even tougher.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, we're just going right into it. I did your
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  Speaker 5: series against Seattle. We're standing in the clubhouse in Seattle
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  Speaker 5: with Scott Harris, me and you. Scott Harris, I think
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  Speaker 5: we you know, standing there, Trek Scuobel walks by. And
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  Speaker 5: what I say to What did I ask Scott Harris when.
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  Speaker 6: School you basically tried to broker a deal?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? I said, when are you going to sign this guy?
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  Speaker 1: So when is the.
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  Speaker 3: Deal going to get done? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 1: That is that mean?
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  Speaker 6: That's the beauty of man.
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  Speaker 7: It's not my job, but I I I don't know
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  Speaker 7: what's going to happen. I know that I have the
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  Speaker 7: easiest job in baseball, Like I pitched this dude, like
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  Speaker 7: it's super simple for me, and so I want to
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  Speaker 7: support Terrek in his prep to to three peat. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: think about that, he's got a chance to three peat
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  Speaker 7: as the cy Young Award winner that you're not gonna
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  Speaker 7: hardly see ever in your baseball career, and he's got
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  Speaker 7: a chance to do it. This all this other noise
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  Speaker 7: is it is really hard on players, and so I
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  Speaker 7: get to stay out of that. I get to stay
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  Speaker 7: out of that fray obviously, you know, as his manager,
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  Speaker 7: I want to make sure he's doing the right thing
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  Speaker 7: to prepare himself for the season and control what he
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  Speaker 7: can in that moment. You know, I'm notn't sure if
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  Speaker 7: you were ex player, a broadcaster, a GM, a manager,
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  Speaker 7: or a president.
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  Speaker 6: But it's it's a it again. It's it's a good problem,
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  Speaker 6: you know why.
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  Speaker 7: You know why all this noise is around tered Schooble.
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  Speaker 7: He's the best, Like, he is the best guy that
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  Speaker 7: you could possibly have on your team, and he's a
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  Speaker 7: free agent after this season. Murph's all over me.
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  Speaker 2: I know, Well, Murph's like commentating on our show from
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  Speaker 2: the side while a.
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  Speaker 6: Murph's just pissed that we beat.
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  Speaker 7: We used to beat them all over the field at
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  Speaker 7: Arizona State and then we beat Now we're all of
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  Speaker 7: a sudden trying to take out Milwaukee, which is a
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  Speaker 7: more difficult challenge than it was at Arizona State.
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  Speaker 6: Stanford, Arizona State. Super simple, just go in, go beat.
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  Speaker 7: Their brains in and leave, go back to the farm.
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  Speaker 7: A little more difficult now that he's he's got to rank.
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  Speaker 7: We're an acc powerhouse right now.
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  Speaker 2: You can ask you a question, so you've Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 2: an experienced manager. I think that you probably have more
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  Speaker 2: of a say than a lot of the managers we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about right now.
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  Speaker 4: There's like ten new managers or something.
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  Speaker 2: Right, They're not going to barge into the front office
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  Speaker 2: and be like, Hey, this is what I think we
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  Speaker 2: should do, Like, you know your players really well, you
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  Speaker 2: know the league really well. If s google's being kept,
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  Speaker 2: are there conversations like hey, how are we building around
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  Speaker 2: what could be the last year that we have the
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  Speaker 2: best pitcher in the sport?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think it's simple.
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  Speaker 7: I think we're trying to win the World Series, like
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  Speaker 7: we do everything we can to try to win, and
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  Speaker 7: we've worked hard to go from like ten plus years
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  Speaker 7: of not making the playoffs to back to back playoff seasons.
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  Speaker 7: And so for me, like keep it super simple, of
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  Speaker 7: like with Terrek, like come prepared to win the World
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  Speaker 7: Series and do everything you can to add to that.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 7: I have some experience in this of of big platform
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  Speaker 7: years or big free agent years. Garrett Cole had in
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  Speaker 7: twenty nineteen, right before he signed his mega deal with
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  Speaker 7: the Yankees, he was in this exactlyas on top of
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  Speaker 7: the sport. I think he finished second Cy Young that
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  Speaker 7: year to Justin Verlander, and I had both of them,
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  Speaker 7: which was great position to.
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  Speaker 6: His position to be in.
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  Speaker 7: But they those like that what Garrett did, and the
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  Speaker 7: advice that I'm that I'm giving Terrek is just go
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  Speaker 7: prepared to be the best possible pitcher you can. And
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  Speaker 7: then obviously as the manager, like if you were the
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  Speaker 7: manager of this team, who would you want to pitch
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  Speaker 7: in San Diego on opening day? Derek Schouler of course, right,
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  Speaker 7: And so you just stay positive along that way until
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  Speaker 7: something you know could possibly change. I just for me
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  Speaker 7: like trying to stay grounded in what you're responsible for.
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  Speaker 7: Is way more important than getting caught up in like
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  Speaker 7: what if or oh my god, this rumor or oh
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  Speaker 7: my god, this team wants him.
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  Speaker 6: Every team wants him, Every team should want him.
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  Speaker 7: He's the best pitcher in baseball, and there there are
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  Speaker 7: great pitchers around the game, but nobody's on top of
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  Speaker 7: the sport the way Terrek is.
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  Speaker 8: But you have him right now. So what piece are
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  Speaker 8: you short? Why do you if you had this ex piece?
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  Speaker 8: What pushes you to that to that World Series? This year?
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  Speaker 7: So, we had a top ten offense in baseball for
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  Speaker 7: the majority of the season and then things went really
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  Speaker 7: south at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 6: We struggled. I think we finished eleventh, So I.
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  Speaker 7: Think part of that is the growth of our young
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  Speaker 7: players is going to be super important. We have some
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  Speaker 7: emerging young players you guys are gonna have on your show,
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  Speaker 7: and you guys are going to love these guys. They're
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  Speaker 7: not quite here yet. Nobody generally knows exactly how the
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  Speaker 7: transition is going to go, but we're super excited about
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  Speaker 7: it on the mound, and obviously we just we have
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  Speaker 7: a rotation feel really good about. We had a couple
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  Speaker 7: All stars in school in mys. Obviously, Jack Flaherty comes back,
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  Speaker 7: Risulsen is there. Troy Melton's going to go from throwing
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  Speaker 7: a bazillion in the bullpen to go into the rotation.
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  Speaker 6: Super excited about that.
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  Speaker 7: Obviously, the bullpen is always a work in progress, because
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  Speaker 7: bullpen's are always a work in progress in the winner,
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  Speaker 7: So I, you know, will vest Tyler Holton see very
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  Speaker 7: entrenched at the back or near the back of the bullpen.
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  Speaker 7: We're going to continue to try to keep firing in
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  Speaker 7: a good player when we can, in every spot that
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  Speaker 7: we that we can. The growth of these players is real.
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  Speaker 7: Droyley Green back to back All Stars Torque, had a
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  Speaker 7: nice season last year. Dylan Dingler, we probably weren't talking
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  Speaker 7: about him at this point last year, but now all
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  Speaker 7: of a sudden goal glove winner and doing an incredible
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  Speaker 7: job behind the plate. So I think part of this is,
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  Speaker 7: like I don't know the exact piece, Crassey, I want.
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  Speaker 7: I want to say that just keep making sure your
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  Speaker 7: roster has fewer and fewer holes. As you move forward
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  Speaker 7: and keep firing in good players, you end up winning
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  Speaker 7: a lot of games. We need to win the division,
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  Speaker 7: like that's our first goal, and we were pretty close
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  Speaker 7: last year until a few too many losses down the
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  Speaker 7: stretch cossed us the division, but it didn't cost us
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  Speaker 7: the wild card series.
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  Speaker 5: You brought up your young players McGonagall, Max Clark, Maultain.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, it was unbelievable in the playoffs for
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  Speaker 5: you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Does he job? Who's job back?
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  Speaker 6: He's gonna pitch in twenty six, I just don't know when.
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  Speaker 3: So you kind of have a new nucleus of guys
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  Speaker 3: that can fill spots.
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  Speaker 5: But if Scooball does go, you still have flairty, you
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  Speaker 5: still have my eyes.
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  Speaker 3: How good can this new group be of young kids?
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  Speaker 5: Because when I talked to Scott Harris, he was raving
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  Speaker 5: about McGonagall, about Max Clark, about.
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  Speaker 3: All these guys. So how good can this?
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  Speaker 5: And I don't want to put you guys out to
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  Speaker 5: the pastor because you guys are still a really good
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  Speaker 5: team that can win the Central and go deep. But
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  Speaker 5: how good is the next wave of Tiger?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: No, it's it's a talented system. And I think again,
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  Speaker 7: I think we're trying to figure out the transition from
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  Speaker 7: the from Triple A to the big leagues, and if
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  Speaker 7: we have any sort of perfect potion that you can
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  Speaker 7: like rub on these guys to make that transition easier,
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  Speaker 7: we would do it. I mean, we we love these players.
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  Speaker 7: They have they have a lot of challenges ahead to
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  Speaker 7: intel the players that they can be. But but they're
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  Speaker 7: super talented, you know. I I think the thing that
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  Speaker 7: that I keep need to hammer home is we're trying
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  Speaker 7: to win. We're trying to win this year. We've been
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  Speaker 7: trying to win last year and trying to win the
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  Speaker 7: year before. We're going to try to win every year
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  Speaker 7: moving forward. And that that to me, like that that identity,
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  Speaker 7: like that, that try that that expectation, that that push
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  Speaker 7: is super important for our players to know when you
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  Speaker 7: show up in Lakeland, the expectation expectations have changed the
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  Speaker 7: view of you that when you guys come down to
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  Speaker 7: Lakeland and you look at our team, you guys are
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  Speaker 7: going to look at us as that formidable team in
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  Speaker 7: the American League with some expectations.
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  Speaker 6: We're going to.
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  Speaker 7: Embrace that and love that. And that's changed over my
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  Speaker 7: time in Detroit. When you first started coming down, there
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  Speaker 7: wasn't a lot of talk of how good this can
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  Speaker 7: team be. It's like, how do we keep developing? Now
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  Speaker 7: we're talking about developing and winning, and we've done it,
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  Speaker 7: and I think it's important that our identity changes that
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  Speaker 7: that no matter you know, injuries, performance, you know, transactions,
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  Speaker 7: no matter what, our identity and our expectation internally is
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  Speaker 7: not going to change trying to win development.
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  Speaker 8: You can always use some extra people helping these guys
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  Speaker 8: develop at the big, bigue level. No better way than
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  Speaker 8: a young man who has won a World Series or two.
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  Speaker 8: Alex Bregman. You talked to him last year about trying,
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  Speaker 8: what you know, your pitch to try to get him
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  Speaker 8: to sign with you guys. What was that pitch like
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  Speaker 8: last year when you when you tried to talk to
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  Speaker 8: him because you kind of saw what he did in
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  Speaker 8: Boston this past year with all their young guys and
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  Speaker 8: Campbell and Meyer and you know Duran, all those guys.
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  Speaker 8: Wouldn't that be nice for him to help you guys
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  Speaker 8: grow those guys on your on your on your staff,
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  Speaker 8: on your position player roster.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, when you chase something for an entire offseason and
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  Speaker 7: you end up like second or third, I don't I mean,
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  Speaker 7: he didn't really rank anybody.
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  Speaker 6: He only picks his favorite.
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  Speaker 7: You know, you get asked a lot of questions about
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  Speaker 7: like what was that like, And it was like, we're
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  Speaker 7: trying to we're trying to be elite. We're trying to
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  Speaker 7: do the best we can to surround our players with
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  Speaker 7: the with the environment to be better. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I think the curiousity when we came out of twenty four,
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  Speaker 7: I felt like we were a little bit more of
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  Speaker 7: a curiosity, right, Like, we we didn't have a terrific season,
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  Speaker 7: we had a terrific second half, Like we pushed really
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  Speaker 7: hard to make the playoffs, and I think there were
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  Speaker 7: a lot of people in that offseason that we're curious of,
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  Speaker 7: like what is this?
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  Speaker 8: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 4: What do you minute?
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  Speaker 6: What Trek scoobl is I young? What like?
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  Speaker 7: Like winning whatever thirty plus games in the last forty
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  Speaker 7: what like, there was a lot of curiosity as to
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  Speaker 7: like what we were all about. And then we jump
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  Speaker 7: out to that that start last year, and I just
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  Speaker 7: think there's more and more believers that we are a
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  Speaker 7: stable teams, you know, that are trying to win, expected
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  Speaker 7: to win, and and doing everything we can to you know,
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  Speaker 7: to develop these young players that we love while while
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  Speaker 7: maintaining a high standard of of what this game is
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  Speaker 7: all about which is postseason baseball. I have a frost
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  Speaker 7: full of players who who went from no experience to
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  Speaker 7: playoff tested, playoff tested, to entire season of expectations where
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  Speaker 7: everybody thought we were the best team in baseball and
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  Speaker 7: then everybody thought we were going to be one of
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  Speaker 7: the stories of failing at the end of the season
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  Speaker 7: and then to the playoffs again. So we have young
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  Speaker 7: players who have more playoff at bats than a lot
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  Speaker 7: of players.
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  Speaker 6: In the big leagues.
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  Speaker 7: That's valuable and that that experience should pay dividends when
• 15:28
  Speaker 7: when hopefully we pushed to win the division this year.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: Okay, so I have two quite quick questions for you. One,
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: how long did it take you to get over the
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: Seattle series? Because I haven't talked to you since, but
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: the fifteen in in Game five was one of the
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: greatest games I've ever seen from an emotion standpoint, from
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: a holy shit that just happened. No way this is
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: going to happen. We're bringing this guy in, They're bringing
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: this guy. You know chances, but all that, how long
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: does it take you as a manager to get over there?
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: Well, there's a great assumption that I'm over it as
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: we sit here right.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 16:01
  Speaker 7: I haven't seen Dan Wilson yet, but I don't even
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: want to look at Dan Wilson right now. You know,
• 16:06
  Speaker 7: I think it stays with you a while, especially when
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: it's an epic game like that and they're I guess
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: the good part of those games is there's not a
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: lot of what ifs, just because there was so much craziness,
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: Like there were so many times we were going to
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: lose the game and then we pull off the double play.
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: You know, are there so many times like we're running
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: out of pitching and there goes Jack Flaherty, Spike's on
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: twenty four hours rest, going out pumping ninety five and
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: doing his thing. You know, I never thought we were
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: going to lose that game, even when we were whatever,
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: bases loaded and no outs and and and until we did,
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: and and you know, I watched the rest of the
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: playoffs for the rest of the of the rest of
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: the postseason completely jealous of the of Toronto and Seattle
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: continuing to get to play, even though that was an
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: epic game to get eliminated on and all the all
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: the information, I mean, all the people that tell me
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: about that is like that was one of the best
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: games I've ever seen, and then the Dodgers and Blue
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: Jays pull that off in Game seven of the World
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: Series and we're not even the best game that played
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: in great playoffs?
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: Did you did you see what Doc did with Yamamoto
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: to end the World Series, the fact that he brought
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: him out after he threw ninety pitches the night before.
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: We asked Trek Scooble. I asked Terrek Scouble if he
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: would have done that, and he hesitated a little bit,
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: but he also said, I've never been in that moment.
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: Would you ask that of your Yamamoto, who is Trek Scuoble,
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: Would you have asked him of that to do that
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: ninety pitches come out to save your game, save your season?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, you would.
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: You would.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: You would look at your guys and have a full
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: conversation with all of your guys onto where they are physically,
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: where they are emotionally, can they handle it? And you
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: know your guys, I mean there are some guys that
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: have been through a car crash, you know the next day,
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: and they just can't physically respond the way that the Yamamo.
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: It's not a one size fits all, but you definitely
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: have the conversation. I remember, you know, back in seventeen
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: when we won the World Series in La Kykele and
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: Verlander were on the mound when Charlie Morton got the
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: last out of the twenty seventeen World Series, and when
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: I was looking at the screen in the dugout of
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: like the guy's warming up, I'm like, think about what
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: that looks like. I have justin Verlander, Dallas Kykele just
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: warming up just in case with Charlie Morton on the mound.
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: And so guys are willing to do everything they can physically.
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: As a manager, my job is also to make sure
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: that if they can't do it, I protect the player
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: both physically and I think, you know, just reputation wise.
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: Not everybody's built to pull off what Yamamoto did. The
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: one thing that I think I know about Yamamoto is
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: like this dude's sect day after he pitches. There's an
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: incredible amount of throwing, which is definitely different than some
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: of the other guys.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: And so good good can we put you? Can we
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: at the end?
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: How many people have asked me why Schoogle came out
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: after ninety nine pitches?
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Can we put that?
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Because we had a conversation before the game, and you
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: said you will see an emotional dump from him. And
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: he got the last out in the sixth inning and
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: he had the emotional dump.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Everyone's like, he could have gone twenty more pitches.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: But what they don't know is you know him better,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Like you just said, yeah, when he has that dump,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: that's it. And he had it when he got the
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: last out, and he came off roaring, and you were like,
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: all right, and then.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we had talked about it prior to that inning
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: and prior to the inning before that, because I was
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: checking in with where where he was. Listen, in this job,
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: you'll never take out the picture at the right time.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: You either leave him in too long or you take
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: him out too early. No one ever really pats you
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: on the back as a manager that you took him
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: out at the right time.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: Agreed, it's all relative to what happens after that.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: But I can't say that on the air.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: No, I know, but I just say that's just that's
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: the nature of the job. That's the part of the
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: job that I don't even I'm numb to it now
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: because no matter what, I've.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Never seen a manager and I've told you is give
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: me more answers for every scenario before the Game's like
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: when you have the manager meeting, he explains everything, and no,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: you can't use it on the air, but he gives
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: you stuff and you're like, man, he just dude has
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: thought about things that I would never think about crafts,
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Like he's thinking about if alien lands and the right field,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: how he's gonna make him be the right fielder and
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: we're gonna Revilely green his center and we're gonna do this,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, what that never happens, But at least
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: he thought about it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: The thing that's interesting about those decisions is I don't
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: know how much how impactful it was for him knowing
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: going into that last inning, did that help him punch
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: out everybody? Like, Hey, I know I'm done and I'm
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: emptying my tank emotionally and physically. I don't know, And
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: I don't know what would have happened if we send
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: him back out, you know, I mean, I think the
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: questions would have been, you know, if he leaves with
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: the guys on base and somebody cashes in his runs,
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: It's like Hejay, he had the emotional outburst. He was gassed,
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: he was done, he's pissed all these in you didn't
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: protect your horse, Like that's just the nature of managing
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: man That's what all these the new managers are going
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: to learn, Like it doesn't matter. Are really what your
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: process did. The results are really what a lot of
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: judgment comes by. I have to work on a lot,
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: a lot more information than than the emotion of wanting more.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: From a picture.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: And it's tough.
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's that's why we you know, that's
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: why we get shown on your broadcast. Like every time
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: something stressful happens, you guys turn right to me.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: Well, of course, look at that face. It's made for television.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: It's what the people want. It's just what the people want.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: But hey, we can go all day and this good
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: to see you, dude. You really appreciate the time. As always,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: we'll talk there in the season. Enjoy the holidays. Hey,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: manager's meeting. He's coming in hot right now. Mark's chasing
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the Sorry, we're gonna talk to Walt Wise, who I love.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: We were, you know, talking about the move when it happened,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: when you were announced as manager. We're super pumped about it,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: as I know you're looking forward to get back getting
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: back in that seat, and you would have just wrote
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: it out with with snip for a while. But you're like, hey,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I'm ready, So congratulations, great to see you.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: What do you got for us?
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: You know, process to move fast, and you know, Alex
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: called me, told me I got the job, and you know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: twenty four hours later, less than that, I was I
• 22:12
  Speaker 9: was at a press conference in Atlanta. So you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: it's it slowed down a little bit. Now we're just
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: trying to make our team better. You know, when Alex
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: never stops trying to do that. So he's doing it
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: as we speak. But uh, and I'm excited, man, excited
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: to get a chance to do it with this club,
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: you know, and for the people I work with.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Did you say, why did it take so long? It
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: took him like a month at public? Oh, you know what,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: we just want to make sure we got it right.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you had the right guy.
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: But it'll be honest, it probably it works better for me.
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: You know, if they didn't just hand me the job.
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: The first time we lose the series, they're going to say,
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: why the hell did they do it? A manager search?
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: You know, so you know what the process worked out? Well,
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, you're in limbo for a little while,
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: and but uh, but in the end, I think it
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: was it was the best best case.
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: Well, you're still happy he took the job. I mean,
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: all these meetings, you haven't.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Even had a hard time to get cratsy.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: I don't think he wants You're still happy you took
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: the job because you got all these meetings and you're
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: the guy in charge.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Basically what he's asking.
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I hear you, cratsy. No, it's all good, man,
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: That's what you sign up for, you know. That's what
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: I keep telling myself anytimes something annoys me. I say, hey, man,
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: you signed up for this, so it's all good.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: But how do how does Alex keep everything so quiet?
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's unbelievable.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Nobody even knows who the cares.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't even know who interviewed.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: You got the tightest ship he does, and all of
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: a sudden, everyone's like, what yeah, which is awesome, But
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, he he operates underground.
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: Man, you got a really really small inner circle, you know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: and so he doesn't share a lot of information and
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: he likes it that way and he's good at it.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: But uh, he's.
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: Pretty relentless, you know, you just never see him working. Yeah,
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: he's you know, he's underground.
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: Isn't that? Isn't that who you Isn't that who you
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: want to work for? Though? Isn't that? Isn't that who
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: you want to work for? Is that somebody that you're
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: sitting there going, you know what?
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think you can hear you keep going, crats
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I'll tell them.
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: Okay, just that it's somebody that you want to work for,
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: somebody that's tight knit and only puts people around them
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: that are trustworthy, people that are keeping I know everyone's
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: seeing it as keeping secrets, but it's Isn't that who
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: you want to work for? Not somebody who's like, oh
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: look who I'm interviewing? Look at us?
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I know you're you're right, cratsy. I mean there's
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: something to be said about it. And you got to
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: earn his trust too, you know, when here he shares
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: information with you. Of course, I'm the manager. I mean
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: that's that's that's a partnership now. But typically you know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: with Alex, you got to earn his trust man for
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: him to share information with you, And yeah, you don't
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: want your stuff floating around to you know the world,
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: I mean, all all your information some sad media folk.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly right for you guys, it's not great, but
• 25:07
  Speaker 9: well you know, he he he uh. I like the
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: way he operates, man, and he never stops working.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: I got two questions for you before you before we
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: let you go, so we know you got to go
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: somewhere else. One have you threatened to beat up a
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: player yet a bench? People that don't know this man
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: is like a seventeen time black belder.
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: And all kinds of I'm an old man, a j oh,
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: stop it these players.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: True, that's true, that's true. That's why it's strong, and
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: he will beat your ass. But my other thing is
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: this is one of the things that I want to know.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Everyone Braves fans will say, oh, it's just snicker It's
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: just Snicker Park two right now.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I love Brian Sticker. I was there when he took over.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: What's your difference in managing?
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And look, I get it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: I've had to answer this question a lot, and I
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: I understand it. I'll ask people, you know, are you
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: just like the people you work with?
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: I mean, and when you when you when you think
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: about it, I mean, it's it's kind of absurd.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: I love Snitt and I'm I'm so grateful to Snit.
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't be here without him. He brought me back
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: into a Braves uniform. I learned a lot from him,
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: just like I learned from all the other managers I've
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: been around. You know, I started with LaRussa and ending
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: with Bobby Cox and and the managers in between and
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: and ending up with Snit. But my personality is different.
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: My leadership style is going to be different. You know,
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: it's a different voice. So yeah, it's kind of a
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: lazy take you to be honest with you, you know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: but I get it, you know, because I've been there
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: for the last eight years. What's going to change. But
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: I haven't been in that leadership uh position in the
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: last eight years, so it's been a very different role.
• 26:38
  Speaker 9: I've been in a supporting role, So you know, I
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: love Snitt, But yeah, if if if he was, if
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: he was taking over from me, I would expect him
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: to say the same things.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Well said, wow, great to see you, and congratulations, appreciate it, bro,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: thank you guys.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Talk in the season. Actually, we'll see in spring. Training.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you need a backup bullpen coach. You can
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: call me.
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: You ready man, back up bread day. You don't want
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: to do You're having fun doing this, but you know what, you.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Don't want to go training and then he's out.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Especially, just think training was a disney where it used
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: to be that great. I could just travel over.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: New Nationals manager Blake Viutera is here with us at
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the winter meetings. Blake, great to meet you in person.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Congratulations on the gig. How's life lately?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you? Life's good. Life's good. Uh, sleep not so much,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: but other than that, everything's good.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: What are you doing?
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: What are you up to when you first just get
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: a role like this and it's with an organization that
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: now is a new front office, what's your day to day?
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: A lot of the day to day lately has been
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: trying to take care of the five week old baby,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: So that's that's a little different. No, but it's been good.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Just I mean hiring the staff obviously first and foremost,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: which you know, is a beast of a process when
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: you're hiring a twelve person staff and interviewing a lot
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: of different people, and yeah, trying to get everybody get
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: to know everybody in the organization. A lot of that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: What what what do you have? What's your uh role
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: in the high process? I know you're in the interviews.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Do you go to Paul Tivoni, who we had on
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: yesterday and say I like this person or I want
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: this person, or I want I like this guy, or
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: does he come to you and say, hey, I've got
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: a guy that I really like?
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: So how does that process work?
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: And how do you do you have like a roll
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: a decks of people that you go through or your
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: contact on your phone and say, oh, this person this
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: person was a combination.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Of yeah, it's a little bit of both. So it
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: was Paul and then our AGM group basically the five
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of us involved in in the interview process, and a
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: lot of it was like they might have a few names.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I had a few names, Paul had a couple of names,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: like and we kind of like start from there and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: then when we narrated it down to a certain amount,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: we'd all talk to the person and at the end
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: we'd get together and if they really like somebody, they'd
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: be like, hey, Blake, like, what do you go with
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: this one?
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. If I really like somebody I'd go
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to them. Hey, you guys feel good about it. So
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: it's just a collaborative process.
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: What are you looking for? What's the what are the
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: character traits or experience level the whole year it's going
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: to be talked about for you, is experience When you
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: bring in a guy like Randy Nor tons of big
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: league experience, is that something that is intimidating, Okay, he's
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: got a lot of big lead experience. Or is it
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: like I'm leaning on a guy like that, and is
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: that the character traits that you're looking for in guys
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: that are gonna fill out your staff.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think what we're looking for first and foremost,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: just like you hear Paul talk a lot about it
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: in terms of relationships alignment, I want to make sure
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: we're bringing in people first that that care about player development.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: We have a young roster, really young roster, and I
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: think one thing that stood out the most when talking
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to every single one of our players individually was just
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: like they just feel like there's another gear they can
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: get to. They're like, we're not finished products by any means. Yes,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: we're in the big leagues, but it's not like roll
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the balls out there and go get them. They're like,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: we have another another gear we need to get to.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: We want to be pushed. We want a staff that
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: is gonna is gonna, you know, bring us out early
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: every day and show us where we can be better
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and how we're gonna get there and things of that nature.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: So when you're looking at building out of staff, that
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: was that was first and foremost, making sure somebody with
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: a player development background, and then obviously, you know, hiring
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and Michael John's our bench coach, Like I wanted to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: hire somebody I could fill my blind spots. Guy that's
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: he's been in the minor leagues a long time, in
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the big leagues of the race for the last couple
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: of years. So not really a recipe in terms of
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: age old versus young, just more about getting good people.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: And they cracked the code to a j. Do you
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: know what it was for hitting coaches specifically, hire someone
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: coming from the Twins, Dave hitting whisper.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: And trying to figure where you're going with this guy.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I'm going, So you just hide around,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: let you pronounce his name because I'm still learning it.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: But tell us about how that all went down.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt BORGSCHALTI Yeah, had known Mat a little bit
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: back when he was with Baltimore. So he originally started
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: with the Twins, worked up their minor league system, and
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: then joined the Orioles right at the time where a
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: lot of that young group was coming up with you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: with Adlee and Jackson and a lot of a lot
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: of those young guys that are now more established guys
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: with the Orioles and did a really good job over
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: there and then went to Minnesota. Uh, Rocko hired him
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: this past year, and then obviously, you know, things changed
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to Minnesota and they kind of started from trash with
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the with the new staff. But yeah, to your point,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: if we get another one like that, we'd be pretty happy.
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: You talked about early work. Big leaguers like aj Perzinski
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: do not want to see their name on early work
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: list because he has a routine. Guys have routines. How
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: do you guys have a young staff teach them, hey,
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: you got to work, but make it that it's their
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: routine and not okay up to ten. I'm in early
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: work with Michael John. I'm in. I'm in you know, outfield,
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: I'm I'm in base running. How do you make it
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: their routine because if you're told to do something, you
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: don't learn Jack, if you're asked to do something, you excel.
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: And guys like James would they're they're sponges. They want this,
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: they want to get all this information.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric, you're spot on, You're one hundred percent right.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: A lot of it's gonna be leaning on the players
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and showing them kind of like where we see them
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: right now, where we think they can get to and
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: letting them kind of lead the process. Like if they
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: want to buy into this, they want to they want
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to do it, Like it's gonna have to be driven
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: by them at the end of the day. Like as
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: a staff, we can't tell players what to do every day.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Like they need to be self motivated to an extent,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and they need to be the ones, Hey, let's go
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: out there for earlier. Let's just let's get some ground balls.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Then let's go hit a little bit extra, let's do this,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: let's do that. Like hopefully we're creating a culture where
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: where that kind of becomes the norm. And just in
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of these conversations with the players so far,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: it seems like that's what they want.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: What do the Rays do so well because everybody wants
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: to be the Rais and you came through the We've
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: been in with the Raids for a long time, and
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: now here you are, you get to build your own staff.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: You kind of get to build your own team. What
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: do the Rays do?
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Because because every Marlin's Peter Bendix raised even the Dodgers.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Friedman came from the Rays. Heinin bloom is now the
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Cardinals from the Rays, right everyone. Derek Shelton was a
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: raised guy. Right now he's a manager of the Twins.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: Rocco was a raised guy. He's a manager of the Twins.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: What did the Rays do that's so special? Please tell
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: me their secret?
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I personally think it's the culture. I think like just
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: it's an unbelievable place to work, like you come into.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Starting from where from Stu Sternberg is no longer the
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: owner to Ander to Kevin Cash all the way down.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Stu started that and then obviously, you know,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Andrew Friedman is now with the Dodgers, and then Eric
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Neander were fully bought into it, and you know, you
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: know Stu was like his saying was, uh, you know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: break windows, just don't burn the house down. So he's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: like he wanted us to try things, he wanted us
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: to fail, he wanted us to be innovative. He was like,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: look like, you're only gonna get better if you If
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: you try some things and learn what doesn't work, you're
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: probably gonna fail more often than you than you don't.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: But try some things and don't be afraid to do
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: so it's just it. It made it a really fun
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: culture to be a part of, and staff loved coming
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to work every day, and it kind of bled into
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the players where they were like, this is awesome, Like
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: they enjoyed coming to work every day, they knew the
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: staff cared about them as people. And I think when
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: you create an environment where like just players and staff
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: love to be there, like you get your best work.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: And I think we were able to tap into some
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: pretty cool things with different players and obviously different staff
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: members too, that you see with other organizations throughout the game.
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: I was, I was part of fourteen different organizations, nine
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: in the big leagues, just bounced around everywhere. I saw
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: the Rays for about six weeks, and I completely agree
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: with what you said. But because I heard Kevin Cash
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: say we're gonna try this, like somebody from the front
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: office said this. One of our coaches said this, We're
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: gonna try it, but they have a lot more leeway.
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: Do you feel like you're the same leeway in Washington.
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: I'm not saying you're going to a huge market, but
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: I'm saying, do you have that same leeway where it's like, Blake,
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: that was a dumb idea, but we're okay with it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: We tried it, move on or is it Blake putered?
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: Did that get him out of here? You know what
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: I mean? Because you see Washington and the ownership firing
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: a lot of people year in and year out, from
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: a staff to managers, to pitching coaches to all that stuff.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Yeah, you're exactly right. And I think that
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: was one thing that's probably the first thing I brought
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: up during the interview process with with Altibony. It was
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: just like, hey, like, the Raised culture is unbelievable. My
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: wife and I just really enjoyed our time there. It
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: felt like family. It was a place we love to be.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: So I told Paul, I'm like, hey, if I'm like
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: that's something that's really important to me and if I
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: want to make this change to a new organization, to
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the race for eleven years and a lot of people
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: are there, are there a long time because of that,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: and Paul, you know, he made sure to let me
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: know that, hey, you're gonna be able to do that here.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: That's that's part of what the reason why he wanted
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: to come over there is just the people and the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: culture ownership made him feel like this was something that
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: they're they're buying into and they're believing in. And Paul
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: reiterated the same, that's just to myself. So we'll see
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: when we get when we get there and the season
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: gets rolling, But as far as I'm aware, like that's
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: kind of how we're gonna run.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: When you and Paul sat down, did you say everybody
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: has to be under the age of forty every every
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: person that works in the organization has to be under
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: forty years old.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: That was the rule, wasn't I think?
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: I mean that's when you look at your stuff.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: I guess Randy Nor is older than forty, but everyone
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: else is like thirty, You're thirty three, yeah, yeah, and
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Paul is thirty five, thirty five. So did you guys
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: really have a conversation about we want just the youngest
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: staff ever assembled? And we're gonna have so much energy
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: that no one can stop us.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: No, you're probably think online, but we didn't. No, it's
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: it just ended up happening that way. And I really
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: it was like every higher it was. You know, we
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: had a handful of names for each each role, and
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: we talked to each of them, and it was at
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the end of the day it was like, yeah, another
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: young guy. Like we didn't plan on it, but we
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: understand kind of what we're walking into and we wanted
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: to make one hundred percent certain that, like this was
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the best person for the job, regardless of age. But yeah,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: it's it's been a the young staff that's coming together,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: I asked Paul Taboni about not knowing people because he
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: wasn't with the ORG and all that stuff, and how
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: you move forward CJ. Abrams, we've seen, you know, maybe
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: some disciplinary things from the old staff from that with
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: when he since he's been with the Nationals. You know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: a young guy who has a lot of potential, how
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: do you approach that without being like, well, actually I
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: was reading because he doesn't you don't know him, he
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: doesn't know you. How do you approach a guy like
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: that who clearly has to be a huge corner piece
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: of your team and is completely different than James Wood,
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: who is this lockstep, super locked in kind of player,
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: and CJ. Abrams is a little bit different than that.
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: And you can't come to the table with a predisposed idea.
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: So how do you handle that situation?
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean CJ. I think first off, like just
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: reaching out to CJ as soon as I got the job,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: that was something he told me he is super appreciative of.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: And you know he's in Atlanta training right now, and
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: and he he knows he's a big part of this
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: and telling him that, like, hey, man, like you're gonna
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: be a leader on this team. You're gonna be a
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: big part of the success we have a lot of
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be based off of of how you go
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: about your business, how you how you help us win,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: how you help our younger players continue to get better.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of players on this team
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that look up the CJ Abrams and want to be
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: c J Abrams. And I went to launch a Mackenzie
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: last week and you know, he told me he's, like
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: CJ is one of the leaders of this team. You know, obviously,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you know, you know what you mentioned. But he's young,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and he's a really really good player, and he's somebody
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: that we see being a huge piece of this thing
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: going forward. And I've enjoyed getting to know the person
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: first and foremost, and it sounds like he he is
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: really excited about what we're building.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Okay, does I mean Mackenzie Gordon, c J Rims are
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: getting traded then if he's gonna be a big part
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: of going.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: No, I think Paul told you guys like Paul called
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: MC and told him about the rumors.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: He was great conversation.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: But Kenzie brought that up in lunch. I just wanted
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: to get to know Mackenzie. I wanted to get to
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: know kind of how we can do a better job,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: what he doesn't like about the Nationals, like what we
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: can fix. I'm trying to kind of understand. I get
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a look under the hood from all these players and
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: get their perspective of like what we need to do better.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: But no, he mentioned he was like dude, first off,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: like Paul called me and told me this, and he
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: was like that was unbelievable. I just appreciate he's like
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: he didn't tell me I'm getting traded, but he you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: he mentioned what was going on. He's like, I just
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: appreciate the him being up front about it.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: I love that you're pointing our meeting when telling all
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: the players, because that doesn't mean a lot to the
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: players when the new managers.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: The front office weak except him.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: But you got a new catcher for Yeah, you have
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: a catcher in Kiber Ruiz who signed to a long
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: term deal. Now with one of them gonna get you're
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: not trading for Are you gonna do a time.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Split deep kind of thing?
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm gonna, you know, because that's gonna
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that if it's Paul or you
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: that's gonna have to make that decision. But you know, Ruiz,
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: when he's health, he's used to playing. Andy Ford wants
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: to come over and play. And Harry Ford I called
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: him Henry Ford.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Harry Harry Ford.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is his favorite player.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: But I know, I but how do you manage that?
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: How do you manage a young guy who you need
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: to play to get better?
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Because he was mind cal Rawley in Seattle and he's like, well,
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: he just signed a long term, Bill had sixty homers.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: I'm never gonna play and then he gets traded to
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: a team, your team. Then how does it catch already
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: signed to a long term deal, how do you manage
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: the playing time?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with a catching position, as you know,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have, but you really can't
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: have a fine right, you can't have enough, and it's
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: really hard to find good catching. So it's it's a
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: good problem that we're looking forward to solving together as
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: a group. And I think coming into spring training, I mean,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: we we love Keebert, we love we love Harry, obviously,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: we love our catching group. I've got a chance to
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: talk to each of them, and we're gonna have a
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: good competition in spring training. These guys are gonna come
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: in and and come in and compete against one another
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: and work and kind of show what this thing's gonna
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: look like based off their own their own thing.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Go for Scotti might follow up, I got I gotta
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: follow up on this.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: So with Ruiz, public metrics not good for him on defense?
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Have you spoken to him about it? Like, have you
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: connected with him yet?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: And if not, is that something that you can talk
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: to a player about over an offseason.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Hey, this is a new regime coming in.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: How can we provide, like you said, better resources for
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: you to thrive on that side.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you nailed it. That's exactly right. And you know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: we hired Bobby Wilson as our catching coach, who comes
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: over from Texas, did a heck of a job with
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Jonaheim amongst others, Very highly respected in terms of what
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: he can do helping defensive catchers. And you know, he
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: already has like a page long of each of our
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: catchers and what he's gonna do to help each of
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: them and what they can do better at and it's
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: pretty in depth. It blew me away. And he's already
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: met with some of our catchers in West Palm Beach
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and he's talked to Keeper on the phone. He's reached
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: out to Harry, like all these guys, Riley Drew likes,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: he's talked to each one of them, so have I.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: And Yeah, I'm just really happy that we're able to
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: get Bobby.
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: What are you most nervous about when you got the
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: big league job? When they said besides the fact that
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: you had a baby on the way, that probably made
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: you more nervous than anything, but when you when they
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: said you're gonna be the manager of the Washington Nationals,
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: did you sit there and go, Holy crap, I've never
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: been what. I don't even know where the manager's offices are.
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: I don't even like know where anything is in these
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: big league state Like, is there one thing that you
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: were like, this might be a little bit of a
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: learning curve.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think there was one thing. But I mean
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: i'd be lying if I told you like, oh, yeah,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: here you go, this is gonna be a cake walk.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Just don't do this. I'm gonna give you this advice.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Don't walk out and ask for the lefty with your
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: right arm, because it's happened to guys and they get
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: so just if you have to put like rn L
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: on your arm so when you walk out to the
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: mound you know which one to to call it.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Just don't do that and everything else will take care
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: So that might be the one thing I didn't think
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: about that. Oh no, I think yeah. I mean to
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: your point, like it's all gonna be new, right, It's
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: something that I haven't done before. I haven't managed the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: big leagues before. And you know, I'd be lying if
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I told you like this is all it's all figured out, Like, No,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: we're gonna learn along the way and surround myself with
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the staff that's gonna help me along the way and
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: cover my blind spots was the biggest thing. And just
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: looking forward to the new challenge and working with all
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: these guys.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: All right, I want to finish with scenario here. I
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: work with AJ every day. He is a presence. He
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: can be a ballbuster. I know how he was as
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: a player too, Right, if you had an AJ, right,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: and there's got to be somebody on the squad that
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: at least has a semblance of an AJ trait? What
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: do you do to kind of talk him into saying, Hey,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I know I haven't done this yet. I see the
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: age number on the resume, But here's why I'm the guy,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: and I need you to trust me and work with
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: me here.
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I think goes back to building a relationship first, like
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: meeting them where they're at, Like understanding who they are
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: as a person, Understanding like what they want right, Like
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: what do they see? Like is it they want to,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: you know, make sure they get better? Is it how
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: much they want to win, how much they want their
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: teammates to get better, like understand like what's most important
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: to them, kind of what has not been good in
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: their eyes the last couple of years. And make sure
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: they understand, like, hey, like you're being heard, like you're
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: a big piece of this thing if we're gonna go forward,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: like you need to be a big piece of this clubhouse,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: a peak piece of this culture. Yeah, make sure they understand, like, hey,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be a big part of this thing moving forward.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, I have to ask this, what are the Gnats
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: gonna sign somebody?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Because you didn't ask Paul.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I never give me an answer.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: So they're doing trades.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: But but my thing.
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: Is like, so I go back because I was with
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: my last years with the Braves fifteen sixteen.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: They bring in Jason Worth and then they go on
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: and win the World Series in.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Nineteen right, And I for two years, two off seasons,
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: I've been saying, this is the year where the Nats
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: are gonna sign somebody to start the Jason Worris cycle again.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: Because you had Gore, and you have Abrams, and you
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: have Wood and you have we haven't even talked about.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Dylan Cruz, right, but you have all these guys. So
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I'm like they need some help, So when are they
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: gonna do that? And then every off season I'm like, oh,
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: they didn't do it.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: Well, now here's your chance. So maybe you need to
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: ask the ownership. He's can I have some money to
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: sign some Paul money, you know, because like I think,
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: I know how good the Washington Nationals fan base and
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: the organization and NAT's Park can be when they're.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Good, and I want to see that again.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that place is awesome. I was blown away behind
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: nice the area is, how much, how nice the stadium is,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: When they're good, they are good.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited about that. And no, I can't speak
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: to pass off seasons. I can only speak to this one.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: And it's something that Paul and I have talked a
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: lot about and continue to talk through, and you know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: we'll be we'll be open minded to what's out there
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: and kind of talk through like what this vision looks
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: like the next next few years. And yeah, I.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: Asked Paul, because I said, Paul, are you a one
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: year guy? You look out so how many years do
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: you try to look out in the future.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get to tomorrow. First.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: You do through this, you have a five week old,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: so I understand that's fair. That's fair.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: No, I think when you look at it, like, you know,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: just talking with our staff, we got the Squeaky wagon.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Going, so we'll get that forty.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Obviously.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: You know, the Squeakies.
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: Really happy with the group we.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Have right now, like our I really like our lineup.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I like our pitching led by McKenzie, and I think
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: we're building something that we hopefully is sustainable for a
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: long time. We're not just talking about twenty twenty six
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: or the twenty twenty seven year being our best one,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Like we want to be really good for you know, five, seven, eight,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: nine years down down the road.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Hey, well, awesome to have you on here. Okay, you
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: got one work ahead.
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: What is the over under on amount of games before
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: you get thrown out? Because your temperament on here, your
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: temperament is you know, you seem like you're real chill,
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: cool and everything. You got to get in somebody's face,
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: but you gotta do it for real. Is it gonna
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: be in the first month? Are you gonna wait it
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: out a little bit? How's it gonna how's it gonna work?
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: Do you want to set the line? I want you
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: to set the line, all right, I.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Think it kind of depends on how it goes.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: What can you argue about these days?
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: You can't argument I was gonna say that, Yeah, there's
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: not much. You were in the minor league, so you
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: had a BS.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: You can't even argue balls and strikes anymore? Right, so
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: what can you argue? Let's see boring? Now she is boring.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: I need fights. I need managers kicking dirt with Loopanella style.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, because everything's challenged too. What's the first
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: manager ejection gonna be.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: The line?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Next year?
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Lines? Those are still not reviewable, right.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: The line like the far and FEWL line.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: I guess I'm just trying to come up with something.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why balls and strikes no, because
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: the players.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Well I guess if you're out of challenges.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess if someone your nine hole hitter, goes
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: like this and James Wood comes up and goes.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm fucking go back, like watch the challenge once.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Before, Right, he's got a good comeback like I've been right.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know that would be interesting.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I'm putting it pretty high.
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: Never getting thrown out, that's boring.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: That's not gonna happen. He will get thrown out. He
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: will find a way.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I prom I'm gonna happen for you, Chrassy.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you well, Blake, great to have you here.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Congrats on the gig.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: We're excited to see what she brings to the table
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: for the NATSI season.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: It will be there exactly, guys,