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Trump, drug wars, and the new Cold War in space · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  In this political Coliseum, we slay the rising beast with the big resort of truth that transcends hypocrisy and censorship.
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  Welcome to Unleash the Political News Hour.
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  I'm Nate Kane, your host.
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  And tonight we've got a lot to get into.
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  We've got a couple of really great guests that'll be coming in in the second and third segments.
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  We're going to talk about the breakdown of the operation to snatch Maduro.
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  And we're going to talk about the kind of planning that goes into an operation like that and why it led to such great success.
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  We will get into also talking about the state of the U.S.
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  military under Pete Hedse and what has changed from the previous administration quite a bit.
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  Also, we're going to talk about the importance of Greenland.
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  And we're going to discuss why it is important for us to have bases in Greenland.
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  Some of it, of course, is related to the Arctic Circle and protecting us against the China and Russia using those shipping lanes.
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  However, I would argue that there's a bigger reason.
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  And Trump has alluded to it in a couple of conversations, and that is something called the Golden Dome.
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  I've got a really great expert that's going to be coming in talking.
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  He was somebody who was part of the Ronald Reagan's SDI program.
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  And somebody who has a lot of knowledge and background in that.
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  So we're going to be discussing a lot of different issues.
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  Folks are going to definitely want to listen to this.
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  But right now, there's another story that I think is very important that I think we need to talk about.
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  And of course, it is Minnesota.
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  There is a lot that has happened there.
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  We are seeing massive crowds of people, you know, that are being bust in, that are protesting, that are getting violent with cops and violent with the uh with border patrol with ICE and all of those that are doing their duty to try to take down these corrupt individuals who are here, many of whom are violent criminals and a threat to public safety, uh, you know, rapists, uh, child predators, uh, human traffickers, drug dealers, every other sort of bad actor that you can imagine that came into this country uh because of Biden's wide open border policies.
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  And listen, uh, one of the things that has happened is not just about the border, but it's also about the fact that we have let in record numbers of people under quote unquote refugee status uh from places like Somalia.
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  And, you know, this expose that Nick Shirley did uh exposing all of these uh criminals, criminal aliens who are here that have been using fraud to defraud uh the U.S.
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  and the American citizen of their tax dollars, uh, that's coming to an end.
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  And uh there are some interesting things that that are coming out.
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  Now, one of the things uh that Trump just claimed uh this last Saturday was uh he was talking and uh he basically made the claim that over a hundred billion dollars may have been stolen from Minnesota over the la over the years, accusing corrupt politicians and fraudsters of what could be called massive theft and fraud and a warning that Democrat-led states like California could be worse, or or actually he said would be worse.
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  So that that's not saying that it could be, it's saying that he knows something.
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  I do think that when Trump makes these statements like this that seemed uh, you know, kind of uh, you know, outrageous, or or you know, he makes these big statements and whatnot.
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  The experience that I have had is, and and I would say probably anybody listening to this show's probably seen this too, that Trump will make a statement, and it will, you know, sound maybe preposterous or maybe it'll sound exaggerated, but then at the end of the day, it all gets revealed to be true.
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  And I think uh, you know, remember when Trump said that they were tapping his lines?
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  Turns out they were.
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  Uh, you know, remember when uh, you know, when when Trump talked about uh, you know, the the uh Ivermectin and things like that, and you know, people, you know, they laughed at him, they didn't listen.
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  Turns out it was right.
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  Uh, you know, there's all kinds of things that Trump does and says, you know, he talked about the border, saying that there were people coming into this country that were, you know, rapists and murderers, and he says, and some of them are good people.
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  I got a lot of media attacks for that, but in this case here, Trump, he doesn't lie.
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  You know, that's that's the problem.
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  You know, people think that Trump is a liar, but he does not lie.
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  He tells the truth.
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  He says the truth, even if it's a truth that people don't want to hear.
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  And when he gives a number, a specific number, a hundred billion dollars, believe me.
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  Trump is not in a position to not know these things.
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  He has an FBI director and a Department of Justice Attorney General that is briefing him on a daily basis.
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  And I guarantee you they are investigating.
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  Remember, they just went in to Minnesota and they pulled all kinds of records out of many of these places.
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  They the FBI is loaded full of accountants.
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  That's probably one of the number one jobs at the FBI's accountants.
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  So I guarantee you they are pouring over all of these records, and there have been rumors that have uh you know surfaced that it's much bigger than what people are expecting.
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  So when Trump comes out and says more than 100 billion, I would say that uh that's probably accurate.
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  And then he says that California would be even more.
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  I'd say they're probably already investigating, and we're gonna see uh something pretty big on this.
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  Now, what is 100 billion dollars look like?
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  Because this is something else that, you know, I think is is important.
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  You know, think about all of the things that could be done for the American people with a hundred billion dollars.
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  I mean, you know, we have people complaining about Trump, you know, wanting to buy Greenland, right?
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  Well, do you know that uh a valuation of Greenland as a potential sell?
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  You know, it's been a topic of discussion with estimates ranging from 30 billion to 70 billion.
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  That means that there's more money that has been stolen than what it would cost us to buy Greenland.
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  That is insane, folks.
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  That is absolutely crazy.
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  But that is what is going on, and they've got, they have to, they have to completely dismantle the system of corruption that is in our country because without doing that, we really cannot recover from the national debt, and we're not gonna be able to uh you know, basically move forward into the future and do the things that we need to do as a nation.
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  We really are in a race, a technological race with countries like China.
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  They are working towards you know, trying to discover things, trying to invent things that would give them a technological edge.
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  Because remember, anybody a lot of people may not know this, but China has a long game.
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  They actually have a plan that they have been working on.
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  It was a 30-year plan uh to overtake the United States, and they have been working it.
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  Absolutely, they've been working it.
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  You know, where do you think all these protesters ultimately are coming from?
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  You know, they're being funded.
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  You know, these people are not uh, and by the way, it's not just the the protests that we're seeing right now, but it's also uh Black Lives Matters, it's the Antifa groups, it's the college campus, uh, you know, with it.
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  Remember, you had uh most of these major uh colleges, you had the Confucius Institute being funded by China uh that was basically spreading the Marxism crap on our campuses.
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  They are absolutely involved.
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  Uh Venezuela, by the way, has been majorly involved.
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  There's a lot that uh, you know, a lot of things that I know about I can't even talk about uh because I, you know, uh the reason I know about it is from my time uh with my clearance.
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  And and I will tell you, though, that Venezuela was very, very dirty when it came to their involvement in uh funding and and directing uh anti-American operations inside our own country, uh, you know, croc causing dissent and all of that.
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  So they were directly involved in in transporting people to the border of Mexico and or to the border of the United States.
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  Uh they have been involved.
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  And I guarantee you, China's involved too, because China is, you know, lock, you know, they were locked, you know, basically hand to hand with them, uh, you know, two communist countries, and uh, they were sharing intelligence with one another.
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  They were doing all sorts of things.
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  And I tell you, I think we have got, we have got to keep our technological edge because if we lose it, then there's no doubt about it.
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  You know, uh China has a they have a global domination policy uh that is part of communist doctrine.
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  And uh they're just waiting out, you know, they're waiting for their time.
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  And what is keeping them at bay is the fact that we uh we technologically dominate the world, and we need to continue to do so uh as a threat deterrent.
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  Uh, and that is really honestly that is one of
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  Of the most important reasons why we need to be continuing to focus uh our energies and our efforts on science, but we can't do that if we're continuing to fight in all these wars.
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  War is one of the biggest drains on our economy.
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  Uh, you know, a lot of people think, oh, it's stimulates the economy.
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  It really only stimulates the the uh uh you know the military-industrial complex, but it does not stimulate it costs us way more than uh you know then than the money that it produces.
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  And the fact is is that these wars are not good.
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  Um so Trump has been working really, really hard to stop these wars.
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  He has certainly been a president of peace, but I think they there is a a bigger ulterior motive behind that than just wanting to be a president of peace.
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  I really do believe that he understands that we are going to need an economy uh that is going to be able to give us the technological advance advantage uh to stay ahead of our enemies.
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  We have to.
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  That is really ultimately what is going to keep our country safe.
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  It used to be nuclear weapons, but now that that's no longer the case because China has nukes, Russia has nukes.
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  So we need an we need something else that is going to keep them at bay, and that is technological advancement and and having that uh uh that edge over our enemies.
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  I think a lot of what we did with uh you know capture Maduro, part of that I think was sending the world a message don't mess with us, especially not in our backyards, because we will come for you and we will take you in the dead of night while you're sleeping.
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  Well, folks, that's all I have time for in this first segment.
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  And uh, I'm gonna go ahead and touch a commercial break.
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  But when we get back, we're gonna be talking to American hero and somebody who really understands uh all about these uh these these types of military operations.
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  Welcome back to Unleash the Political News Hour.
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  In this segment, we turn our attention to a significant international development, the capture of Nicholas Madura.
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  Joining us is Captain Barry Todd, a retired Army Ranger with exhaustive operational experience.
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  Captain Todd, thank you so much for being here.
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  Oh, thank you for having me.
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  So, you know, one of the things I I wanted to have you on here was to get your insights uh into the strategic planning and execution that likely contributed to such a successful operation.
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  Additionally uh I want to, you know, also uh appreciate your perspective on the current state of the United States Armed Services under the leadership of Secretary Pete Heggseth.
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  So we'll get into that a little bit uh you know after this this initial topic.
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  But um uh starting with that, just give us a little bit about insight on your yourself and your background, and then if you would please um you know talk about how how do we have such a successful operation here.
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  Okay.
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  Uh well, my background, uh right now I'm uh I'm the CEO and chairman of the board of uh Invicta Financial Group.
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  Uh I'm also a uh best-selling author and a retired Army Ranger of 21 years.
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  Uh and my background goes into we ran a lot of missions down in Central America.
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  Uh, have you ever seen the movie uh Clear and Present Danger?
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  Yes.
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  All right, we used to do that, except we were never allowed to engage.
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  We could only surveil, and we worked with the DEA and other joint forces uh in the 80s and the 90s down in Central America and uh the northern part of South America, Columbia, uh Honduras, Mexico, all those areas.
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  Wow.
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  And I don't think a lot of people realize or understand the importance of these joint operations between you know groups like uh DEA.
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  I used to work for DEA.
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  Uh I'm also a former Army, although I was not a you know a uh combatant.
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  I was a in the signals uh corps, but I've worked, you know, in some of these environments, and I know that that there's there's issues when we're dealing with uh you know having to take down a uh you know a narco-terrorist in a foreign country, and we have to you know engage you know with our our military and uh you know and use them for those types of operations.
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  Can you explain a little bit about how that works?
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  Well, first off, there's no direct interdiction.
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  Uh in my case, I commanded uh the 101st uh long-range surveillance unit, uh, which is a ranger organization.
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  They were they don't have them anymore, but back in the 90s, they were very prevalent in all the divisions.
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  And we would run joint task force missions in coordination with the DEA, uh, the Marine Corps, all that, and we would go in into those uh countries with the knowledge of those uh uh governments uh and working with the DEA and then of course they would work with their counterparts in those countries, where there was Mexico, Honduras, Columbia didn't matter, and then uh we would surveil the drug labs, the poppy fields, and send back real-time human information, human intelligence.
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  So that way they could decide what actions, if any, they were gonna do.
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  How long do you think the planning was going on for this particular operation?
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  Uh, how what kind of level of surveillance uh are we talking about?
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  I mean, it seems like they knew a lot of information.
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  Oh, the planning that goes into this is like six months or more.
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  Uh it's it's unbelievable.
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  You're you're constantly maintaining your intelligence in that area, but when when you start getting heavier into it, it's it's quite astonishing.
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  Have you ever heard of the Sante raid?
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  No, I have not.
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  All right.
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  If you go back, uh, it was the first special operations uh mission, very much like this one that happened on November 21st, 19 uh 70.
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  We just had the 55th anniversary of that raid.
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  It was extremely successful, where you had special forces along with the Navy, the Marine Corps, uh, the Air Force, uh, all the joint forces coming together in uh North Vietnam.
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  They went all the way into Hanoi 23 miles to uh pull uh 70 uh three POWs out of the Sante POW camp.
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  The whole mission went off without a hitch.
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  We didn't lose one uh uh special operator.
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  The only problem was when they got in there, uh there were no prisoners because they had all been moved uh a few weeks before and we had no idea.
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  Of course, our human intelligence is much better now.
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  But the but the fact that that raid went off the way it did, and we went 23 miles in the enemy territory without losing anybody is unbelievable.
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  And this mission is very similar to that in the aspect that the planning that went into it was six months.
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  Rehearsals and everything started prior to that.
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  Uh, if you go back to the invasion of Panama, the the regiment actually did uh multiple full rehearsals uh at Fort Benning.
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  Uh they brought all the battalions in before they actually went into Panama.
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  So uh the training, the planning, and the rehearsals uh that go into this covers every type of contingency you could think of.
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  One of the things that was interesting was uh there was a release of a uh a video or an audio recording of one of the the Cuban guards that you know was supposedly there and uh claiming that there were these specialized sonic weapons that were used.
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  Um what can you tell us about?
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  that uh actually nothing they didn't have those when i was in i retired in 2001 i you know it it's interesting could i i know that those types of of you know those types of weapons have been used maybe to a lesser degree um i don't know if they're as as lethal or if they're as uh powerful but i know that uh we've been using them on you know shipping uh you know going through the you know these territories where they're pirates and things like that uh to you know point at at those types of individuals they've been using crowd control and and things like that i don't know if this is exactly the same thing uh because in those cases uh you didn't have people that were bleeding out of their you know orifices but uh it is fascinating and and it uh you know obviously trump's not gonna you know give away classified information in public and he's been asked about it but um you know all he said is that there are things that we have that nobody has and so I I thought that was a pretty great statement and and even if it was not fully true this thing coming out it certainly it projects a message to the rest of you know uh these bad actors in in the uh western hemisphere that you better watch your you know watch your butt uh we're we are not going to tolerate you know this kind of uh uh behavior of of drug trafficking into our country what are your thoughts on that uh what do you see as is really the projection of power that has come from that single operation oh this is it's not just bad actors in that area for the past 30 35 years date they have been maneuvering into Central and South America as well as to Cuba and I'm talking China Russia those bad actors but we're talking the big bad actors not the little ones all right and by Trump doing this this is more than oil this is more than uh that being a communist regime this is about going in taking out a man that was leading the drugs that had totally destroyed this country him and Hugo Chavez and sending a clear message to China Russia and the rest of the world the Americas are off limits you are done playing in our backyard and the same thing with Panama you know is it's a great thing we've actually moved back into Panama Fort Sherman's open back up and they're actually graduating service members from the jungle school again which had been out of there for over 20 years.
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  And we're just not messing around anymore we're starting to focus on our hemisphere.
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  Yeah and it's insane that we ever allowed you know the the uh the the Panama canal to to go back under the control of of a foreign government who then allowed the Chinese to come in and contract my understanding from some other people that I've I've interviewed is that uh the Chinese were were basically spying on everybody going through there including our own ships uh you know they were using electronic warfare and it it's just insane that we we ever allowed that to happen before and so I'm I'm so glad to see that they have rectified that issue uh that the Chinese are are a considerable threat uh you know and and I think that it's no longer an issue of of uh you know keeping them at bay with our our troops in Japan and in uh South Korea and in Hawaii but it's it's a matter of they're in our own backyard now oh exactly you're exactly right and we need to start putting a stop to this there they've infiltrated our universities they've cut across the border they've infiltrated our businesses and then uh they have had a a concerted effort I'd say for at least 10 years to have uh the birthright citizenship where they come here they have their babies while they're over here and then they take them back to China raise them and then they come back to the United States but they've been raised under that communist regime and they don't understand our constitutional republic and that we're a free nation uh so this is this is uh this is really really we have an administration that we haven't seen since Reagan uh really take charge and uh letting the whole world know that uh we're off limits you know you're gonna play in our backyard you key o FAFO yeah well you know that that specific topic that you're talking about um I know Peter Sweisser just uh released a new book that talks specifically about the anchor baby problem I I think is a very relevant topic for right now as we of course you know have a national conversation happening about immigration immigration control uh this is a huge huge huge issue oh yeah just to give you an idea Nate I live uh I live in Yuma Arizona we're right near the border right below us is San Luis which is right on the border i you i you come here i'll take you down there at 4 a.m and you will see every single school day uh 11 to 1400 unaccompanied minors crossing an international border to come into yuma county and get free education yeah it's funny how bad it is when when i was living in southern california i grew up in in the los angeles area and um just uh back in like 2007 that that time frame um i was living there and they had we had letters that are that were coming to our house uh from the mexican consulate offering free Spanish textbooks uh for students in american schools uh you had advertisements on our radio or elections in Mexico it was just insane it was clear as day that they were trying to uh that they had a a objective of uh basically invading and and populating and affecting our our uh everything our education system and everything Trump could fix this whole thing though by simply signing one simple executive order that doesn't mess with anything and that is because think about what I said earlier 1100 to 1400 unaccompanied miners you'll go down there with me Nate and you will see six year olds with no parents walking across an international border to go out and get in a bus and then drive them 30 miles up here into Yuma because of the weight of laws all he has to do is say no more unaccompanied miners crossing the border without a parent or guardian a documented parent or guardian you do that that'll shut the whole thing down there doesn't have to be a law passed and that's the way it used to be 30 years ago and now they're taking advantage of speaking of changes over time that that brings me to another subject that I wanted to ask you about um it's clear that there's a new sheriff in town with uh Secretary Pete Heggseth uh I have not seen uh first quite some time a military that projects itself quite differently than the previous uh administration uh in the previous administration you had you had commercials coming out that showed uh you know a a young military female talking about how she had two mothers and you know all this social justice crap that had nothing to do with war fighting and it was projecting really quite honestly a weak military plus you had arguments going on about whether or not transgender should be allowed in the military it was just insane uh the military has a singular purpose and that is to defend America and project power and and uh that certainly was not doing it and I remember seeing a video that showed uh a a Russian uh commercial uh a recruitment commercial versus a U.S.
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  Army recruitment commercial and the difference was stark uh it's not that way anymore uh what are your thoughts about the current uh morale and and uh the curtain projection of power with our within our own U.S.
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  armed services well it's it's self-explanatory the wakiness that was infiltrating the military and from my understanding from the people that I know uh in the military the worst one was the army the army adopted it beyond comprehension uh you know and these and these people that uh that changed ranger school I loved how the flag officers in 2015 said that the standards are not different for men or women uh going through ranger school they were exactly right what they didn't tell you was was the one two three years leading up to 2015 they changed the conditions of grading those standards yeah you know it for everybody and that's what they don't understand they took out no contact hand to hand combat yeah right the whole reason we had no contact hand to hand combat in ranger school is how many young men go come into the military and were never in a real fist fight yeah that's a good point yeah it's unbelievable you need to know what it's like to be punched without a uh uh a pad right because it hurts oh yeah and and how are you gonna react to it they took out knife trading bayonet training they weren't doing the individual runs where we used to run them in formation at six and a half to seven minute mile
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  They they don't do that anymore.
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  And so now all that stuff's being brought back in.
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  And that's what Pete Hexeth talked about, getting back to the 1990 standards.
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  And we always said when I was there as a ranger instructor back in the 80s, any woman's welcome to come through, but don't ask us to change the conditions of the standards.
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  Which is exactly what the flag officers did prior to that.
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  Last question I have for you, um, because it it kind of ties in with my next guest is what are your thoughts on Greenland and its uh national security implications for the United States.
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  We've always needed Greenland.
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  That's every president has talked about it.
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  Uh now we have a president that's making it a priority because all you have to do is look at the world map.
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  Look at where Russia and China are located, and guess what sits right in between them and us.
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  You know, there's 57,000 people on there, and I can't believe they're gonna let us go in there and do whatever we want to and not pay them anything.
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  If I was them, I'd say, yeah, pay me 500 billion dollars and give each of my 57,000 a million dollars, uh 57,000 uh residents uh a million dollars and call it a day.
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  I think they they see the reality, which is that uh you know the Danes are not going to defend them uh against an aggressive uh Russia or China.
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  And the fact is is that uh while we have a a small base, you know, that is there, um, you know that location is not just key to the Arctic Circle and the shipping lanes that are opening up there, and the fact that you know you've got submarines from both the Russians and the Chinese that come through there, but also the fact that uh it's a key area for our space force.
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  And I think that's the other element.
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  Uh, I think Trump creating the space force was critically important because uh we are in a sense in another space race, uh, you know, with China, and we are yeah, and we've got to pay attention to that.
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  Yeah, and and and you know, I had uh some uh a couple of flag officers that are friends of mine that actually said to me, going back to Pete Hegster thing, uh the uh and they thought that the way he talked to them at that meeting he had back in October.
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  Uh one of them could told me it was a platoon leader or company commander uh speech, and I looked at all of them when they said that to me, uh, because they're all dear friends of mine, and I just said, you know what's really sad, gentlemen, is that the secretary of war felt he had to give that speech in the first place.
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  What that tells me is you you gentlemen were not doing your jobs.
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  And of course, they didn't like that, but they got over it.
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  I'm not in the military anymore.
• 32:59
  Captain Todd, uh, you know, I want to thank you for your insights.
• 33:03
  I do want to ask, uh, where can people follow you and uh you know, where can they are you on social media?
• 33:08
  What's the best way to do it?
• 33:09
  I am uh you can go to Stand Your Ground Book uh or Stand Ground Book.
• 33:16
  Uh yeah, and are you on um are you on X or or uh Yeah?
• 33:23
  I'm on all I'm on X True Social Uh Facebook.
• 33:27
  Okay, and they can get all that information from your website.
• 33:30
  Yep, they sure can.
• 33:32
  Awesome, awesome.
• 33:33
  Well, as we conclude this uh insightful discussion with Captain Barry Todd, uh, we appreciate your expertise on these critical matters.
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  Avi Loeb, a distinguished astrophysicist.
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  Uh, we're going to explore the significance of space exploration, uh, the knowledge gained from astronomical observations and drawing from his experience on President Ronald Reagan's strategic defense initiative program, uh, the strategic importance of Greenland to United States national security.
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• 35:39
  Welcome back to Unleash the Political News Hour.
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  We now continue our conversation this time with Dr.
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  Avi Loeb, renowned astrophysicist and former contributor to the strategic defense initiative.
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  Many of you will remember that uh a program that Reagan had started uh called Star Wars by you know, I think the media.
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  But Dr.
• 36:02
  Loeb let us uh let's dive deeper into the value of studying space, the insights derived from our observations, and I really want to get into also why Greenland is so pivotal uh a role in safeguarding U.S.
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  national security interests.
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  Uh, you know, obviously we've got uh Space Force, which has uh operates a base out of there right now.
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  So I'm very interested to get your thoughts and opinions on this, but uh thank you so much for joining the show.
• 36:34
  Thanks for having me.
• 36:36
  So let's start with uh if you would give us a little bit of your background in in regards to the uh SDI program and and how that you were doing that before you got into what you're doing now.
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  Yeah, so I was uh in my early 20s when the uh the head of the strategic defense initiative that was uh uh initiated by uh President Freegan, uh General Abramson uh visited Israel.
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  That's where I was born.
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  And uh I presented to him a project uh uh for uh electric propulsion that uh could have been uh quite helpful uh in shooting down ballistic missas.
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  And um and then he was very uh excited, and that was the first program uh the an international research project that was funded by SDIA back then is it was called Star Wars.
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  Uh back then there was a lot of uh resistance within academia to the idea.
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  People argue that it's not the practical, uh, but uh here we have it.
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  Uh now um uh there is uh uh um Trump's uh proposed Golden Dome, which is a multi-billion dollar uh missile defense uh shield, uh, which uh sounds very practical and and appropriate.
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  And uh I think uh President Reagan has the had the right uh vision.
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  Uh obviously uh aside from the technological advances that were made uh through this program, uh it had a political impact.
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  And uh partly, you know, that that's one of the reasons that the uh that Glasnos took place in the Soviet Union.
• 38:12
  Well, I think too, uh, one of the advantages we have now versus then is uh we have an example of the effectiveness of Iron Dome in Israel.
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  Um we watched Iran uh launch thousands of missiles, and ultimately uh Israel survived it with very few of them getting through.
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  And I think that you know is uh I think that is a huge testament as to why we need to have a similar system here in the United States.
• 38:41
  Yes, and in fact, uh very recently uh a new system was announced that uh is using lasers to shoot down uh uh missiles and or rockets, and um that is uh much cheaper uh to operate than um uh obviously those uh anti-ballistic missiles missiles.
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  So why you know, and I'm curious about this because obviously there's the reasons for the Arctic Circle and kind of monitoring and surveilling uh China and Russia and uh submarines and boats coming through the Arctic Circle.
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  That is a big reason why uh Trump has pushed for um you know our need to you know basically occupy certain parts of of Greenland, but but there's also uh indications that it's important for Space Force and important for Golden Dome, and there hasn't been a lot of media attention to that.
• 39:37
  And I'm curious as to why Greenland, what what is the reason for why um you know Trump has has brought that up?
• 39:46
  Yeah, so um first and foremost, um, Greenland is a strategic uh flight path location.
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  Uh it sits uh uh on top of the great uh circle routes, and uh these are the shortest uh direct.
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  Pass for intercontinental ballistic missiles, ICBMs that may be launched from Russia or China towards the United States.
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  And so we would like to be on their way and shoot them down.
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  And so that's a very important location for that purpose.
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  Also, in terms of early warning and detection, the US already operates space base over there and in Greenland.
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  And obviously, we would like to strengthen such a warning system using radars that provide the critical early detection.
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  Nowadays, there is also, of course, US government satellites that monitor the heat that is emitted when a ballistic missile is launched.
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  So that's something that was established over the past uh 15 years or so.
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  But it's important to have something on the ground as well.
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  I mean, the because it really depends how many missiles are being launched as to how well you can respond to the threat.
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  Then there is also the interception during the boost phase of those uh missiles, and uh uh people who are familiar with the details uh argue that Greenland is uh an ideal location for uh Golden Dome's uh interceptors uh over there.
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  And um obviously um owning uh part of the land would uh allow the the defense uh uh or or the uh now it's called the department of war uh uh to access any particular strategic location over there.
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  Now, you uh I think in we we've talked before, and you had mentioned that you kind of got your start in uh philosophy, but you ended up in astrophysics, and um it's it's an interesting story, but I I'm really curious what is it about astrophysics?
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  A lot of people don't understand it because uh you know there's a few handful of people that that work in this you know field, but what is it about astrophysics that is critically important for you know people?
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  I I think you know, you we we were talking about before, and you know, people think, oh, you know, we got plenty of things here to be worried about.
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  Why are we you know spending money looking into space?
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  So if you would break down for me in our audience, why the study of uh solar systems and space and and objects in space is so important.
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  Well, it's for the same reason that even though you might uh enjoy living at your home at your house, uh you have to recognize the street that you live in, because every now and then there would be uh something entering uh from your street in your backyard or uh your neighbors might uh influence what happens to you.
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  And so knowing about the uh the cosmic neighborhood is really important.
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  Uh but space um right now in geopolitics also plays an important role because uh when we deal with uh space just uh uh around the earth um that is uh critically important um for um getting information about uh what happens uh uh uh you know uh in our uh adversarial uh nations and uh uh potentially protecting national security uh from uh any uh uh attempts to uh uh uh attack the US.
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  And so controlling space and also potentially get getting to the moon uh is uh of strategic importance.
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  And we see China right now uh aiming to um develop um uh their abilities in space, and we must always be uh uh superior to our competitors, uh, so that we can dictate the terms of any agreement so that we can protect ourselves from uh whatever technologies they're installing there.
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  So uh I do believe that you know, space uh is uh crucial for what uh uh happens here on Earth when we deal with the region just around the Earth.
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  Beyond that, it's uh more uh for the distant future uh or for um science for the purpose of figuring out what really lies out there.
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  And I uh with one caveat, because um, you know, we think that we might be at the top of the food chain, and that is probably true on Earth.
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  Uh we are now entering a new era where we develop our own technological kids.
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  These are AI, artificial intelligence uh systems that in principle they could kick us out of the top of the food chain if they become more intelligent than we are.
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  This could happen in the coming decades.
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  We should be, of course, uh uh we should monitor the situation, make sure that we are still in control of this tool, and it doesn't take away from us the decision making, uh, especially in politics.
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  Uh, but um uh beyond that, we we still think maybe we are the most uh accomplished uh species since the universe started since the big bang.
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  And that may not be true, uh, because there are 100 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy alone.
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  Uh and um about 10% of them have a planet the size of the Earth, roughly the same separation.
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  And most of them formed billions of years before the sun.
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  And you ask yourself, okay, well, how long will it take the Voyager spacecraft that we launched that will exit the solar system?
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  How long will it take it to the to get to the opposite side of the Milky Way galaxy?
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  Turns out that it's less than a billion years.
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  So even technologies that we developed back in the 1970s, you know, can make it uh through the entire Milky Way galaxy in less than a billion years, which is less, much less than the time difference between the formation of most stars and the sun.
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  The sun is a late uh comer to the party.
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  Uh and so uh we could imagine technological objects entering the solar system from other civilizations, and we should monitor for that.
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  Now we are starting to detect interstellar objects.
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  Uh, there is the Rubin Observatory in Chile that is funded by the National Science Foundation, the Department of Energy, and it will monitor the southern sky uh every four days uh and employ a camera of 3.2 gigapixels, uh, which is a thousand times uh higher resolution than your cell phone camera.
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  So we will get a lot of data about new objects entering uh our backyard from the cosmic street.
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  And my point is we should make sure that all of them are natural rocks, and none of them is technological because it's just like seeing uh a visitor uh in your backyard.
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  If if we detect a technological object from another civilization in our backyard, we have to worry whether it may enter through the front door.
• 47:16
  That's a good point.
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  I I think another you know area that a lot of people don't realize is there's a lot of innovation in terms of new materials uh and advances in uh everything from telescopes to you know surveillance and all kinds of applications that come out of uh our investments into the sciences, including astrophysics, that I think is important to keeping our technological edge uh as a nation.
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  Definitely.
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  Um, for example, uh GPS systems.
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  Uh they would not have been possible uh without understanding gravity.
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  Uh thanks to Albert Einstein's uh theory, we we are able to describe gravity much more precisely than uh based on uh Newton's law of gravity.
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  And these corrections uh that uh sound very small, they are crucial for localizing objects uh to within uh centimeters on the ground from space.
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  Um uh uh many technologies like uh lasers, like uh electronics, they were based on our understanding, scientific understanding of uh uh quantum mechanics, you know, something we discovered about a century ago.
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  Uh so um maintaining our superiority relative to other nations in technologies requires that we will also be far more advanced in in our science and uh have attract the best minds, you know.
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  That was true through uh the Manhattan Project that uh uh helped us uh win the second world war.
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  Uh and that's uh that gave a boost to funding science uh shortly after uh the second world war, the National Science Foundation was established because people realized that it's important for uh geopolitics for our uh superiority relative to other nations, and and it proved itself um uh both in terms of helping the economy developing new technologies.
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  Uh, you know, the best uh example is Bell Labs.
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  Uh they attracted the some of the very best uh scientists that won Nobel Prizes while being in Bell Labs.
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  And at the same time, uh Bell Laboratories provided them with problems uh that are relevant uh to society and that they solved.
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  And that led to the discovery of um uh radio communication, the the laser, um many others that uh are crucial for the current uh economy.
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  So um uh my point is uh uh supporting science has great benefits, both financial for the economy because they uh it it is sort of the engine that drives new technology.
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  But also military applications and allowing us to always be ahead of other nations.
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  And we enjoyed the fortune of attracting the best scientists.
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  That includes myself.
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  I arrived to the US because the US is the leader.
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  And I would be delighted to continue maintaining the US superiority in the future.
• 50:28
  Absolutely.
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  I think that is the one of the things that I think we have to consider is that if we are not progressing and we are not adding to our technological knowledge, then we're certainly our enemies are.
• 50:46
  And we certainly don't want to fall behind them because the moment that they believe they have the technological edge, especially nations that have a desire for global conquest, which uh the you know Chinese communist party certainly does have part of their plan.
• 51:03
  Uh, I think we it would put us in a very bad position.
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  So I think keeping that technological edge, uh, it is a deterrent as well, uh, you know, from somebody invading our own country.
• 51:14
  Exactly.
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  Now now there is always, of course, the uh financial incentive.
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  Uh many corporations want to make money to make a profit.
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  So they are try driving uh developing new technologies, but but it's it's it's different.
• 51:27
  We need to invest directly in the basic research that uh uh does not necessarily uh at first does not bring profit.
• 51:37
  Uh, but uh at a second stage, you know, once you recognize something new, you can apply it.
• 51:43
  And um so if you pose uh problems of strategic importance to scientists and uh encourage them to pursue those problems that have important benefits, both to our uh defense forces and as well as uh to the economy, then um we can always be ahead of our competitors.
• 52:04
  So you you brought up a little earlier uh the Voyager project, and and I'm glad you brought that up because actually, you know, uh I ironically, or um I ended up watching a video last night that was put together uh by a group of scientists that was talking about some of the new discoveries that have happened that have kind of rewritten um you know a lot of our understanding of gravitational waves and things like that because of data that has come back from uh Voyager one and uh and now I think it's Voyager 2 that is uh uh entering, you know, they're basically entering the the outermost parts of our um solar system.
• 52:46
  And it's interesting that we are still learning new things, you know, even in the world of physics that you know that that give us a greater understanding that you know our perspective is still only from within our own solar system, and we really don't understand completely what's beyond that.
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  But there's some new stuff that's coming out, uh, some new projects that that have happened uh recently, uh where we will be able to kind of prove some of these uh some of these assumptions now that we've uh seen from the Voyager program.
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  Um, it's it's quite amazing that we still don't know what most of the universe is made of.
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  Uh the most uh abundant constituent is called uh dark matter.
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  It makes up 84% of the matter content of the universe, but it's a substance that we've never found as of yet in the solar system.
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  We don't know what it is, and um there is a lot of work trying to figure it out.
• 53:46
  You know, obviously, if we discover what it is, we might even employ it in our technologies.
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  But um it's it's a substance that doesn't interact with light, and so we call it dark matter.
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  It's invisible, and we know that it exists because of its gravitational influence on visible matter.
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  It's sort of like uh a mover.
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  Uh, you know, if you go to a party and you see a lot of people congregating, uh, you say, okay, well, there must be someone at the center of this uh uh congregation because uh otherwise why would they cluster like that?
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  Uh so we can't see the the mover, the prime mover, but and we call it dark matter, but but it's there.
• 54:27
  And uh we also there is a uh most of the energy in the universe is called dark energy, again, a substance that we don't understand.
• 54:36
  Uh lots of unsolved problems, uh even at the basic level of uh what the universe is made of, not to speak about questions to do with our origins, our cosmic roots, what happened before the big bang, you know, we would like to complete our history books, but um another thing is that um observing the sky gives you a perspective, it it brings a sense of humility to our existence because we recognize that we are just you know what we focus on right here on earth is just a small part of the big picture, and there is much more real estate out there.
• 55:14
  Yeah, I would say that the the search uh for understanding the area of dark matter and dark energy is probably one of the most important uh things that that we as a nation uh need to find first.
• 55:28
  We certainly don't want our enemies uh discovering uh those things before us, uh, because I think whoever discovers that and and gets an understanding of it, uh I think it's going to have uh profound uh impacts.
• 55:40
  Well, we're just about out of time, but um uh Dr.
• 55:44
  Loeb, I want to give you an opportunity.
• 55:45
  Uh, where can people follow you?
• 55:47
  I know you you don't have a social media account, although you did just recently open up a uh YouTube account.
• 55:52
  But um if people want to reach out or they want to read your work, um, where can they find that?
• 55:56
  And then tell us also about the documentary and uh in your book.
• 56:00
  Yeah, so I write uh essays on a daily basis, and you can find them at uh AV-LOB, AVI-LOEB.medium.com.
• 56:11
  So I post it on medium.com and uh have a few million uh readers uh per month.
• 56:17
  Uh and um uh I have also some books that I wrote recently, such as um extraterrestrial and uh interstellar.
• 56:26
  Uh the uh extraterrestrial became a best seller and um uh was translated 26 languages.
• 56:34
  Uh and there is a Netflix documentary uh being finalized uh about an expedition that I took to the Pacific Ocean to uh look at the uh materials left from uh uh uh an uh a meteor that uh an object that collided with Earth that came from uh outside the solar system.
• 56:56
  And uh I was wondering about the question whether it could be a Voyager-like uh uh spacecraft that collided with Earth because it has had unusual properties.
• 57:06
  So we went on an expedition, collected some materials, and you will see it in the documentary that should come out uh 2026.
• 57:14
  Oh, that's fascinating.
• 57:15
  I definitely want to see that, and uh I definitely want to get your book uh and and check that out.
• 57:20
  Um I want to thank you again for you know being on the show as we wrap up this edition of Unleash the Political News Hour.
• 57:27
  I extend my gratitude to our Steam guests, uh Captain Barry Todd for his analysis of the Maduro operation and the state of our armed forces and Dr.
• 57:35
  Avilo for his profound insights on space exploration and national security.
• 57:41
  Thank you to our listeners for joining us.
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  Until next time, stay informed and engaged.