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RIDICULOUS that Bill Belichick wasn't a First Ballot Hall of Famer? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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different personalities in the music industry.
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You got to go out there and give your best product.
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ending water hitting that windshield.
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Me, yeah. The only day I think you ever
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missed a show is when you were actually in the hospital.
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That's right. Yeah.
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I don't miss shows. I don't run away no matter how
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and I'm going to entertain people.
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tonight. You can have a show.
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I've been deathly sick with a fever.
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I'm doing all right, Evan. What are you looking at?
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What the heck are you doing every time looking down?
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He was crying. So hopefully he's OK as well.
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I didn't know it was his son. So yeah, Caleb.
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His kid was crying on the phone, so I was.
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Hopefully Caleb and Carter are OK.
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Errol over here is selling Caleb and Carter to get better, get
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will need. My skin, my skin is not
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I almost said I was 73. I see scoops over here.
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He's sitting over here shaking his head.
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I've never taken this pill before.
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So I I don't even know what it is.
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Brittany says. It's it's like for stress.
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So I was like, is it going to make me drowsy?
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Dr. doesn't say it's, I said whatever, whatever could take
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me, you know, take a little pinch of my stress.
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Stress out. I will.
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I'll take the the pill. And I did, and I've been
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drowsing off ever since. But trust me, I'm here to
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entertain people for the rest of the night.
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ESP NS Seth Wickersham reports Wednesday to the absolute shock
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of everyone that Bill Belichick did not get enough votes to get
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into the Pro Football Hall of Fame as a first ballot.
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Hall of Fame voters had a pick. Well, had to pick up to three
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names, Belichick, Robert Kraft, Ken Anderson and Roger Craig and
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Elsie Greenwood on their ballots.
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Yes. Still, Belichick didn't make it.
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The athletic Mike Sando and the Hall of Fame voter himself is a
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Hall of Famer himself, says that recent rules change allowing
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coaches to be eligible one year after their retirement instead
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of the usual five years might have impacted some old school
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voters. In addition to the Spygate and
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Deflategate cheating scandals, many Patriot players, including
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Julian Edelman, both Mccourty brothers, Logan Ryan, Matt
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Castle tweeted their disbelief about Belichick not getting in
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on how he should have made the Hall of Fame on a first ballot.
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And they're ashamed of themselves.
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Well, they should be ashamed of themselves.
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There is also a theory that the Hall of Fame and former GM of
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the 90s Bills and and Peyton Manning era Colts Bill Polian
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was telling other voters not to vote for Belichick as a
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punishment for cheating. But the Hall of Fame confirmed
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today that Polian did vote for Belichick.
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Yeah, sure. Belichick was part of the 2000s
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and 2000 tens all decade teams and was one of nine coaches on
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the NFL 100th Anniversary Team. All nine other coaches were
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first ballot Hall of Famers. Belichick is 1/3 all, third all
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time with three O 2 career wins and first all time with 31
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playoff wins and six Super Bowl championships.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, I wrote a story a couple of days
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ago and I spoke about the whole, my whole thought about Bill
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Belichick. I'm not a Bill Belichick fan.
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I'm not. Everybody knows I'm a Jet fan
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and what he did to The Jets in 24 hours, jumping ship when it
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was given to him. He was very close with Leon
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Hess. Leon Hess sold his rights to
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Woody Johnson. He didn't want to work for Woody
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Johnson, and Woody had his own opinion about Bill Belichick
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before he took the job. So Bill Belichick had no
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interest in staying there when Bill Parcell stopped, stepped
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down. But here's the facts, ladies and
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gentlemen, as much as I can't stand Bill Belichick, and maybe
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if Bill Belichick stayed with the New York Jets, The Jets
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would be the sixth time NFL champion and maybe be one of the
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more successful teams of the last 2020 years and decade.
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My fact here, the fact that the NFL doesn't appreciate a guy
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this good, this talented and actually drafted Tom Brady.
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He drafted Tom Brady in the sixth round.
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He took a chance on Tom Brady. If you look at the development
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of players that he developed over the years, think about it,
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Rob Gronkowski, Hall of Famer, Vince Wilfork should be Hall of
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Famer. Julian Edelman is one of the
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greatest playoff players we've ever seen.
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Wes Welker, We could go on and on and on.
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And now look, the one season that Tom Brady was not the
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starting quarterback because he tore his ACL and he was out for
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the season, Matt Castle was 11 game winner, 11 game winner and
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earned himself a contract with Kansas City after that.
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Bill Belichick is the mastermind of the secondary.
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If you remember those giant teams in the 80s and the early
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90s, who do you think was the guy that kind of transformed
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secondaries to really prototypically stop top end
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offensive teams? It was Bill Belichick.
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Bill Belichick was the reason why the Giants won their second
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championship, which is was early in the early 90s.
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Everything Bill Belichick has touched when it came to the NFL
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besides the Browns, because everybody that touches the
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Browns don't do well. But everything besides the
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Browns, Bill Belichick has been successful.
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Everything. Now, everybody's gone back and
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forth with his drafts over the last five years with the
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Patriots. That's fine.
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Christian Gonzalez was his last draft pick.
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He's been pretty damn good. This is a man that comes from a
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football family. His father coach college, his
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father coach North Carolina. His father wrote a book about
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drafting and obviously developing players.
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This man is not just a teacher, not just a personality, not a
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guy that you just want to hate. This man has an understanding of
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the game of football more than I can say about any coach I've
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ever seen in my time of watching football.
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And the fact that the NFL committee would not give this
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guy the generosity to be a first ballot Hall of Fame is shameful.
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Absolutely shameful. I don't want to hear from the
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Patriot players. I want to hear it from the
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players that played against Bill Belichick.
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I want to hear from Ben Roethlisberger, who said
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something, Peyton Manning who said something, Eli Manning who
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said something. These are the guys that Bill
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Belichick had to play against either in championships or in
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regular season games and playoffs.
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His success didn't just come from the Patriots organization
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or Robert Kraft. If Robert Kraft didn't hire Bill
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Belichick, his success of this franchise probably wouldn't have
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even come close to where it's become as an elite team in all
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of professional sports. When you think of the New
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England Patriots now in the last 30 years, you can compare them
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to teams like the Lakers, like the Yankees, organizations that
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are very well respected, organizations that are built
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around winning. Look, the New England Patriots
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are in the Super Bowl this year. Super Bowl 60 is hosted in San
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Francisco. It's not Bill Belichick's team,
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but Mike Rabel, who coached Mike Rabel.
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Bill Belichick, who drafted Mike Rabel, Bill Belichick.
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Think about this. If you look at success and
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success is not easy in the NFL, when you think of a coach with
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20 years under his belt as a as a head coach of one team, there
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are only two coaches that just stepped down, well got fired,
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Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh that have coached their teams as
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long or almost as long as Bill Belichick in the last century.
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Think about that. Not Bill Parcells, not Tom
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Coughlin, not any of those great coaches I mentioned, Giant
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coaches, but a lot of great ones.
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Most of these guys, Jimmie Johnson, never coached the
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Cowboys. More than less than actually
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less than 10 years. When you have that kind of
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success, division championships, AFC championships, Super Bowl
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championships, and you look, yeah, you're going to point your
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fingers to the players. Tom Brady is, you could argue,
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the greatest quarterback to ever play this game.
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He probably is. You could argue that every great
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quarterback needs a great coach. Joe Montana, who was his coach?
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Speedy Bill Walls. Ben Roethlisberger, who was his
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coach. Bill Cower, then Mike Tomlin.
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Eli Manning, who was his coach, Coughlin, Peyton Manning, who
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was his coach, Dungey. Think about it.
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When you think of success of an organization, you need that guy.
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You need the guy that is going to speak up when the media is
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going to attack, which he didn't.
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And you're also going to want to hear the guy's mouth, even if it
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comes out the wrong way. I don't care when I when I when
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I read all these different stories and all these different
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writers coming out and saying that people are shocked.
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I'm not shocked. A lot of things have happened
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over the last couple of years that has hurt Bill Belichick. 1.
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He decided to part ways after he got let go by the Patriots to go
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to college football. Now he, he had an opportunity
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maybe to get that Atlanta job and it wasn't his fault.
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Atlanta decided to go another way.
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Raheem Morris, who's now looking for another job.
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Bill Belichick then decided to go and coach college football.
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But while he was doing that, Bill Belichick is dating a 24
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year old beautiful woman. Some guys would look up to Bill
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Belichick because he's doing that.
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But NFL and the way the NFL works, they're probably, you
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know, guys like Bill Polian or some of these committee guys
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that are probably in their 60s or 70s and they've been with
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their wives for like 40-50 years.
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They don't like that. And I'm telling you, I know,
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obviously. Did Bill Belichick cheat
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Spygate? Yes.
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Did the NFL confiscate, confiscate all the video after
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that so nobody can see the video?
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Yes. Was Bill Belichick behind it?
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Yes, Deflategate, I don't think it was a gate of anything, but
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nevertheless, Bill Belichick was the coach.
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He was a part of it. So of course, with John Harbaugh
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complaining about all the different things that he was
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complaining about, because Bill Belichick found ways to run his
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defense in his offense, which was legal at the time, it didn't
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say it in the rule book that he couldn't do it.
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It pissed off John Harbaugh and then John Harbaugh reached out
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to Indianapolis and obviously said what he felt, said what he
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said about the deflate deflated balls and that the Indianapolis
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should investigate it. And they did.
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And I remember that was, I think, if I'm not mistaken,
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Andrew Lux last. Year, that was his second to
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last year and I think that was that was like a 44 to 7 blowout.
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Like, OK, even if you play football, it's a really good
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matter that much of that game. The fact here is you can't hate
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somebody because he wins. He can't.
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As a Jet fan, all you Jet fans out there that are listening to
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my take care, of course you're going to hate him.
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He decided to not take the Jet stop to to go to the Patriots
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and look, did he make the wrong decision?
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The answer would be no. He made the right decision.
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He went to an organization he felt he had a better chance to
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succeed in. Yeah.
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Does does that mean that the the thought that Bill Belichick and
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and what he did with to The Jets organization was right?
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No. Does that mean that the Rams and
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the Rams should have after the fact that he cheated when I was
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one of the greatest teams, one of the greatest offensive teams
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we've ever seen? Kurt Warner, Tori Holt, those
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type of players. I mean, they had one of the best
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running games, one of the best offensive lines.
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They had three offensive lineman that are inducted into the Hall
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of Fame. That the practice.
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They had a whole team could be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
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Hall of Fame. That's how good they were.
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They lost against a new New England Patriot team that was
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very young, a young Tom Brady. Did they cheat?
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Yeah. You only cheat if you get
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caught, and he got caught. They lost the first round draft
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pick. They had to spend some money.
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Not a lot of money, but enough. And Bill Belichick obviously was
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behind it. If anything, you would look at
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him as a genius because he changed the game.
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The dual tight ends, Who do you think first did that?
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Everybody's going to give O'Brien all the credit for that.
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But who hired O'Brien? Bill Belichick, Think about it,
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a transitional game every decade, every 10 years, Bill
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Belichick found ways to win. He never had to wait more than
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what I think five years to play in a in a Super Bowl.
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The guy was always fighting to play in the Super Bowl.
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How many AFC games, AFC Championships he was in?
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Eight in a row. The only guy I can remember that
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was in 8 championship games is LeBron James.
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Is LeBron James a first ballot Hall of Famer right now in the
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NBA? If he retired tomorrow, the
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answer would be yes. But you know what?
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Nobody wants to give it committee.
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You don't want to give him any credit.
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You know why? Because he doesn't play on the
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football field. Oh, he's just calling the plays.
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I believe the hardest thing and the hardest sport to coach is
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football. You look at all the sports,
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hockey, basketball, baseball, there's just so many signs
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you're going to put up in baseball.
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There's just so many calls. You're going to put your hands
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up in basketball and hockey, football, there could be 7080
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plays in a game and you got to teach these guys.
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You got to get them into shape the offseason, OTAs coached them
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up. And with all that, Tom Brady was
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a first ballot Hall of Fame with all his success and he was very
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successful. Tom Brady won seven Super Bowls,
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one with Tampa. People would argue he's the
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greatest quarterback of all time because of his his success in
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the playoffs and his championships.
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Who was the coach of the six out of those seven games?
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Bill Belichick not only is the greatest coach in football
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history, he could go down as the greatest coach in sports
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history. Yeah, you heard it.
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The fact that I watched and I I said it on in like Flynn last
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week when I was picking the coach.
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That, according to that Bleacher Report, like college football
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historian. They had him at 2121 Bill
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Belichick. I would take Bill Belichick over
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Phil Jackson to win 6 Super Bowls.
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One coach has never done that before. 1 coach has never even
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Vince Lombardi, who won five championships.
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They weren't Super Bowl 5 championships, never won as much
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as Bill Belichick. Vince Lombardi, people argue, is
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the greatest coach in professional sports history.
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In that list on Bleacher Report, he was ranked second under John
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Wooden, who's the greatest college coach in basketball
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history. Think about it and you're going
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to not even put this guy in the top ten.
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It's shameful. And the NFL should, absolutely.
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I don't know what the NFL should do on this.
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I honestly have no idea how to explain this.
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It doesn't make sense. None of it does.
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It doesn't. You don't like somebody.
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Well, oh, the writers don't like them.
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Oh, the committee don't like them.
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So we're going to have them sit for a year and then we'll put
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them in. What does that do?
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That just pisses them off. Look what they did to Terrell
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Owens. Terrell Owens to me is just a
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little bit under Jerry Rice. Some people say Jerry Rice is
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the greatest football player to ever tie up his cleats.
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A lot of people think that he's better than any quarterback to
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play it in this league. And if you lick, if you look at
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when you're trying to compare these two guys, what are their
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numbers? What what is different about
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these guys numbers? It's not by much.
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Terrell Owens obviously is a little bit under Jerry Rice, but
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absolutely a Hall of Famer. And that's that's the problem
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right now. How do you vote these guys in?
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What do you look for Is it wins championships?
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Everybody says if you don't win a championship, you're not a
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first ballot Hall of Famer. OK, let me ask you guys a
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question, and this is a good question.
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Drew Brees is up to be in the Hall of Fame this year, right?
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What? He's won how many championships?
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He's won one. Is he a first ballot Hall of
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Famer over Bill Belichick? Not a chance in hell.
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And I love you, Drew. Not a chance in hell.
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I'm sorry. I'm not going to sit here and
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beat around the Bush Drew Brees, as good as he was, it Drew Brees
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would not be Drew Brees if he didn't go to New Orleans and be
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coached by Sean Payton, where he built his offense around Drew
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Brees. And Sean Payne's an offensive
27:12
coordinator. Let's ask everybody, what is
27:16
Bill Belichick? He is a defensive coordinator
27:21
who turn who turn Tom Brady into the greatest quarterback to ever
27:27
play this game. Think about it, a defensive
27:30
coordinator, we hear it all the time.
27:32
Fish talks about it all the time, that defensive
27:35
coordinators are probably the defensive coordinators are the
27:39
easiest play callers. It's easy.
27:43
It's the offense that's hard to coach.
27:45
It's the offense to try to figure out the the under the
27:48
lingo on the speaking and and getting these guys in the right
27:52
position. Bill Belichick was the coach of
27:57
all these successful teams. Tom Brady's game changing games
28:02
was because of Bill Belichick play calling.
28:04
How about this? Some of the greatest football
28:08
seasons we've ever seen a quarterback have.
28:10
And I remember the Randy Morris year with Tom Brady breaking
28:14
records. Who was the head coach of that
28:16
team? It was Bill Belichick.
28:21
Think about it. And you're not going to put this
28:24
man as a first ballot Hall of Fame Famer and and to be
28:28
compared to some of the greats. Bill Parcells, was he a first
28:32
ballot Hall of Famer? Let me ask you guys a question,
28:37
who do you think was a better coach, Bill Belichick or Bill
28:40
Parcells? How about this, the 2
28:42
championships that Bill Parcells won?
28:46
Was it Bill Parcells that won those championships and the
28:49
calling the play calling from Bill Parcells?
28:52
Or was it Bill Belichick's defense that won those
28:54
championships? That's where the Bills won.
28:57
It was Bill Belichick, Giant fans.
29:00
You're not going to be. This is not something to beat
29:02
around a Bush about. We understand what it takes to
29:07
win. I'm a Jet fan and I never see
29:10
wins. I see losses, I see losers.
29:14
I see quarterback after quarterback, coach after coach,
29:17
GM after GM. And you Patriot fans and all you
29:21
fans out there that couldn't stand the Evil Empire, we call
29:24
the Patriots win year in, year out.
29:28
That guy who we couldn't stand Belly, I used to call him
29:33
because he used to give me a stomach ache every time I
29:35
watched him, wearing his his little hoodie, his short
29:40
sleeves, walking up and up and down the sidelines in the cold,
29:45
in the snow, win after win, championship after championship,
29:53
laughing after laughter. And what I mean by laughing is
29:59
the only time you've seen this guy smile is when he wins the
30:01
championship. And if he can even peek a smile
30:04
when he does that, it's pretty amazing.
30:08
The man stood for championships. The man store stood for the game
30:13
of football. And this guy doesn't go in as a
30:15
first ballot Hall of Famer. It doesn't make sense.
30:21
Devin Mccourty is going to be a Hall of Famer, a safety from
30:26
Rutgers. There are not many guys that
30:31
come from Rutgers football that become an elite player at that
30:35
position and who developed that kid?
30:42
Bill Belichick It's, it's problematic when you think about
30:47
when I'm, I'm bringing up all these different things and I'm
30:50
trying to slice it because it's like a piece of bread and, and a
30:53
loaf of bread. You know, if, if you're a hungry
30:56
guy, you could probably go through a half a loaf of bread
30:58
with three sandwiches. All right, a pie is 8 slices,
31:03
right? Bill Belichick, think about
31:09
this. If you think about a pie and
31:11
there's 8 slices, He coached this team four years or I'm
31:17
sorry, 44 pizza pies, more than probably half the coaches in the
31:24
NFL and in NFL history think about that.
31:27
I would say 3. I'll I'll take away 433 more
31:31
pizza pies than most coaches in the NFL.
31:37
I just don't get it. I don't understand the reasoning
31:40
behind it. A lot of people want to put the
31:42
point their fingers at Bill Polian or this guy or that guy
31:47
or this girl or that girl. I don't think it's anybody but
31:50
the committee as a whole that didn't like this man, doesn't
31:54
respect this man with his success and have reasons behind
31:58
of hate because of his relationships over the years
32:02
with Roger Goodell. Robert Kraft throwing him under
32:05
the bus after the fact that he decided to part ways with him.
32:11
And Robert Kraft probably is bitter that he chose Bill
32:16
Parcells. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
32:18
Bill Belichick over Tom Brady. Tom Brady goes over there to the
32:22
Buccaneers and in his first years wins the Super Bowl.
32:24
And ever since Tom Brady left, he doesn't win a Super Bowl or
32:28
even appear back in the Super Bowl.
32:34
I don't care. There's nothing to nothing in
32:36
this story that would make anybody smile, even if you hate
32:39
Bill Belichick. And there are a lot of Jet fans
32:41
on social media that have come out and said this doesn't make
32:45
any sense, and I'm one of them. It doesn't.
32:49
There's nothing that the NFL could try to sell me now today
32:54
to tell me that Bill Belichick isn't a first ballot Hall of
32:56
Famer. Because if I did and I was with
32:58
that committee, I'd smack them all in the face.
33:00
I'd wake him up. I'd dump water on him.
33:04
What I get some like what are they like vampires or something?
33:07
Maybe I get some prayed water so if I throw it at them, they'll
33:11
melt or something. It it's just, it's it's
33:15
horrible. It's horrible how the NFL does
33:20
not respect the guys that have transitioned their game, have
33:24
brought their game to the higher levels.
33:27
We've never seen this. And I don't think we'll ever see
33:29
a coach this successful ever in the NFL.
33:32
Ever. These accomplishments will never
33:38
be broken. Ever.
33:40
Just like though, we'll never see a Tom Brady, we'll never see
33:43
a Michael Jordan, We'll never see a Wayne Gretzky, We'll never
33:48
see a Muhammad Ali. We'll never see a Serena
33:54
Williams. We'll never see a Tiger Woods.
34:01
These guys transition their sports.
34:05
Bill Belichick transition the coaching game.
34:10
Not just in the NFL. In all of sports.
34:14
Very well said. And he also did it as AGM too,
34:18
and that's what a lot of people are forgetting.
34:19
And other coaches have tried to duplicate that.
34:21
Chip Kelly, Bill O'Brien, like you mentioned, he tried to do
34:24
that with the Texans and it badly failed.
34:27
And for whatever reasons that you want to like dupe Bill
34:31
Belichick out of being a first ballot Hall of Famer makes no
34:33
sense. And it wouldn't surprise me if
34:35
Robert Kraft maybe like he did when he was putting in denial
34:40
interviews for the Falcons, all his other teams to get him a
34:43
head coaching job. Who says he does not connect
34:45
with those voters? Oh, I want to get him first over
34:47
Bill Belichick to make a point. So who said Robert Kraft
34:50
couldn't be behind that either? But that's a whole other
34:52
conspiracy theory. I'm not going to go down as
34:54
much. I want to mention those two
34:55
arguments that people want to make against Belichick, one of
34:57
which is obviously his relationship.
34:58
Now, that's not going to impact anything when the college
35:02
football and Pro Football Hall of Fame are not connected.
35:04
It's not like basketball where NBA and college coaches are all
35:07
in there and college players, NBA players are all in at the
35:09
same time. This is your two separate Hall
35:11
of Fame. So if you want to hold it
35:12
against him that he's dating a 24 year old, it is a weird
35:15
relationship, I understand. But you want to hold that
35:17
against him. It doesn't work for the NFL sake
35:20
as much. And then the other argument is,
35:22
oh, when Tom Brady left to go to Tampa, he won a championship.
35:26
OK, Bill Belichick coached Cam Newton when he was washed and
35:30
Mack Jones. How many coaches are going to
35:32
win Super Bowls with that? Good luck with that.
35:35
Tom Brady had Bruce Arians, who was a top 10 coach in the NFL at
35:37
the time, and good offensive skill players around him in
35:40
Tampa. Two time coach of the year.
35:41
Yes, I yeah, again, maybe even fringe top five coach at that
35:45
time, you could say top ten, top five, whatever.
35:47
He was a quality coach, one of the best offensive coaches in
35:49
the NFL at that time and had Mike Evans say Chris Godwin.
35:53
He had good tight ends. He had a good offensive line and
35:57
you're going to say, oh, Tom Brady was the only reason that
35:58
they won a championship? No, it's not the.
36:00
Case also think about it. Think about how many offensive
36:03
lineman came and gone and we're successful with the Bill
36:07
Belichick offense and then they leave and absolute failures.
36:10
Oh yeah, so many of them. Think about it.
36:13
There are so many players that have played in this offense, a
36:15
play in this defense, and then they left.
36:17
They got their big contracts gone elsewhere and failed.
36:21
Never were as successful than they were when they were they
36:25
were with the Patriots. Think about that.
36:27
That's because of Bill Belichick's game planning.
36:30
And we've had guys on the show saying that Bill Belichick is
36:33
one of the coolest, one of the funniest guys you'll ever meet.
36:36
Yeah, he's got the dry humor off the field, yeah, but.
36:39
But nobody would know that because he can't stand the media
36:41
and he doesn't ever release any information out to the media
36:45
which would hurt his team or hurt any of his players.
36:48
Yeah. And there's a point that it gets
36:49
to just pettiness for some of these writers.
36:51
I again, that you we talk about with baseball, like you can't
36:54
have that reflect for somebody that is a first ballot type guy.
36:58
Bill Belichick I think is the greatest head coach ever.
37:01
If you want to say he's second or third, like that's if you're
37:03
two or three, you're still a first ballot hall.
37:05
He's. The greatest?
37:05
I think he is too. I hated him too.
37:07
I hate it. I used to make, oh, it's
37:09
Lombardi. Lombardi and Jeff.
37:10
We have Jeff on the phone. We'll get Jeff on in just a
37:13
second. I, I've gone back and forth with
37:15
Jeff over the over the years. It's been over 14 years I've
37:19
been back and forth and Jeff, as he would say he's a Jet fan, but
37:24
he has been a Patriot fan his whole career since he since he
37:28
was a kid. And I've gone back and forth
37:30
with him saying Lombardi, Lombardi, Lombardi, I'm sorry
37:33
Lombardi couldn't itch Bill Belichick's ass.
37:36
All right, I'm sorry. And I, Vince Lombardi, I never
37:39
got a chance to see him coach. Vince Lombardi was nowhere close
37:42
to the success story that Bill Belichick built over there with
37:46
the New England Patriots. He was an amazing play caller
37:50
and I don't care what anybody says.
37:52
Oh, well, he didn't call the offense.
37:53
What are you talking about? He said, hey, coach, you think
37:55
he's not? First of all, and I'll say this,
37:58
McDaniel, who hired him, who coached them up?
38:04
It was Bill Belichick. Every one of these guys,
38:07
O'Brien, every one of these guys he hired who coached them up,
38:13
Eric Mangini decided to go and coach The Jets.
38:16
What did Bill Belichick do? He took his stuff because he
38:20
didn't want his guys to ever coach the New York Jets because
38:23
he couldn't stand the organization.
38:24
I know the story. He took all of Eric Magini stuff
38:28
and he took it and put it in a box and put it outside the
38:31
offense and locked the office and change the locks.
38:35
That's Bill Belichick. Like it or not.
38:38
That's who he is. And you, you might not like him,
38:41
and I'm a Jet fan. I couldn't stand him.
38:43
I know no Giant fan likes Bill Belichick, but you have to
38:46
respect him. You have to.
38:49
And if it wasn't for Bill Belichick Giant fans, you
38:51
wouldn't have. You wouldn't have had two
38:54
championships in the 80s and the 90s.
38:57
Quickly, before we get to fun Oh godfest, what do you?
39:00
Say, yeah, like I respect Bill Belichick.
39:03
I, I, I don't, I didn't hate Bill Belichick.
39:05
Jets fans hated Bill Belichick for obvious reasons.
39:08
He left them high and dry and then was killed him in the
39:11
division for the next two decades.
39:13
The Giants, we beat them both times in the Super Bowl.
39:16
And he got us 2 Super Bowls in the in the 80s and 1990.
39:19
I got, I got nothing but great things to say about Bill
39:23
Belichick. But you said you wouldn't get
39:25
into conspiracy theories, Speedy.
39:27
I'll do that for you real quick before we get, I guess Jeff's
39:30
calling in. Yeah, he's on Robert Kraft.
39:33
Robert Kraft getting in over Belichick would be the craziest
39:38
thing, and I think it's going to happen now because there were
39:40
only five guys on the list. Belichick's not in.
39:43
He's not one of them. Who else?
39:45
Were they really putting in all those other three?
39:47
Or are they going to punish Robert Kraft too?
39:51
Or was this part of No. I feel like a big craft.
39:55
It feels like there was some of that.
39:56
The Bill Polian stuff is a little like too Kaiser soze ish
40:00
for me. Like, oh, he like.
40:02
Apparently Ryan Lee came out and he was one of the ones that
40:05
apparently did too. Who cares what role?
40:08
Necessary trust. Me all I know it's he's like,
40:11
well, maybe he was telling people not to vote and then he
40:13
voted for him anyway so that they couldn't trace it back to
40:16
him. I heard that today.
40:18
Belichick always knew when to give up on guys.
40:20
Maybe a year early, but sometimes he gave up on them
40:23
when they were. The only position.
40:25
Giants took Nate Solder speedy, Remember that one You said the.
40:29
Only position he had problems drafting is wide receiver.
40:33
That's. It you know why?
40:35
Because Coughlin was the wide receivers coach back in the day
40:38
on that those Giants teams and Coughlin always had the best
40:41
receivers and it was always the best competition between the two
40:46
of them. They said in practice in those
40:47
days. And then obviously you saw
40:50
Coughlin was the only one that could hang with him that
40:53
undefeated season until it was Game 18 and one.
40:56
And then obviously in the second Super Bowl, the Giants won as
40:59
well with Coughlin. But just before you let Jeff in,
41:02
I had to say I never said coaching defense is easy or
41:05
calling defense easy. It's just like you got the
41:07
dollar menu type of play sheet you.
41:09
Said it's a lot easier. It's a lot easier because the
41:12
size of the play sheet is so much smaller than what you have
41:17
for offense. There's so many more things.
41:19
Remember McAdoo had like The Cheesecake Factory menu of play
41:24
calls. It had like a million play calls
41:26
on it. It's just a lot of defensive
41:28
coordinators they have. That's a lot of that, like
41:30
internalized. Probably.
41:32
Just need to get a few things out, you know, like some like
41:35
advanced blitz is like Wink, I bet has just like a little index
41:39
card with like his blitz packages for the weekend.
41:42
And that's all he needs. In fact, I've seen him do it.
41:45
So it's that's that's kind of the difference between offense
41:47
and defense. But let's hear with this crazy,
41:50
this crazy Jeffrey that in Florida.
41:53
All right, Jeff from Tampa. What's up, buddy?
41:57
Errol, we have gone back and forth forever on this, and I'm a
42:02
reformed Patriots fan now. I'm just like you.
42:04
I'm a Jets guy now, huge Jets guy, right?
42:08
But it's good to see you come around on this a little bit,
42:12
right? Because it's like he's
42:13
undeniably the best coach that's ever coached in the NFL.
42:16
No question. No question.
42:18
Like he's. Coached in the hardest of times,
42:22
like all these other guys that compare him to, Lombardi never
42:25
had to deal with free agency. You got a guy, you owned him,
42:29
right? Belichick has survived all the
42:31
storms. And the cheating thing I don't
42:34
even buy into, right? Because that's a joke.
42:36
If you go back to Jimmy Johnson's tweet from a day ago,
42:39
he goes cheating. I used to do that every week.
42:42
So they were all doing it right. So this and this is just one of
42:47
the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.
42:49
If he's not a Hall of Famer, who is?
42:52
I, I will tell you right now, everybody on the ballot, I
42:55
would, I would take Bill Belichick over all of them, Drew
42:58
Brees, every one of them. This guy has done things for
43:01
this league that nobody will ever accomplish.
43:04
I don't think they'll any, they'll ever be a successful
43:07
coach, as successful as Bill Belichick.
43:10
The the success story and in a division that would at at some
43:14
points were arguably one of the best divisions of football.
43:18
The Jets weren't always bad. Miami wasn't always bad.
43:22
Buffalo wasn't as always bad. All these teams were good at
43:26
some point of those 20 years. And remember, Rex Ryan played
43:31
against Bill Belichick. We've seen this.
43:33
We we've seen great, you know, great games between both of
43:36
these guys. And even Rex Ryan, when he heard
43:39
this, what Rex Ryan said about this, he said this is an
43:42
absolute catastrophe. How could the NFL and the
43:45
committee absolutely agree to this and not put this man?
43:49
I'm not saying Robert Kraft doesn't deserve some of the
43:51
credit, but guess what? Who do you think disposed of
43:55
those videos? It wasn't Bill Belichick.
43:57
Hold on, hold on. What does Craft deserve credit
43:59
for? If you look at if you look at
44:02
the the league report card that went around, the Patriots have
44:05
the worst facilities, the worst stadium, the worst travel.
44:09
They got F for almost everything.
44:11
And then when you look at the spending, the actual spending in
44:14
the league, Robert Kraft has spent the least over the last 20
44:17
years. So what are we giving them
44:18
credits for? No, I understand that.
44:21
And obviously Jeff, a person that has what we say has rooted
44:26
for them in the past as he became a a new full blown Jet
44:30
formed Jets fan. Yeah, I'm sorry, reborn, reborn
44:34
Jet fan. Obviously the thought here is is
44:38
that Robert Kraft is is Roger Goodell's best friend or one of
44:42
his good friends. And because of that, he is going
44:45
to be inducted as a first ballot Hall of Famer.
44:47
And that's the only reason why. And I do believe that there is
44:50
some kind of cahoots with these two guys, these two men who fish
44:54
together. There's 100% of conspiracy
44:58
theory going on, right? Because we, we've talked about
45:00
this a long time ago, right? But if you're telling me the
45:04
Patriots were a 20 year dynasty, right, who's in the Hall of
45:10
Fame, it's Tom Brady. And who they They won't let in
45:13
Willie McGinnis, they won't let in Vince Wilforth, they won't
45:16
let in any of these other players.
45:18
So you're telling me they have a dynasty but nobody's any good?
45:21
It makes no sense. And I agree with you, Jeff.
45:24
There were a lot of great Ty Law made it into the Hall of Fame.
45:27
But, and by the way, who drafted Ty Law?
45:29
I mean, nobody wants to give any any credit to this man, this man
45:35
who has really re changed the game, defensive play calling.
45:40
He is the guy. He's the king.
45:42
He's the guy that what he did. What did Bill Belichick always
45:45
do? He took out your best player.
45:47
He made sure that I'm going to take out your best player.
45:50
You got to beat me with your secondary players, your third,
45:52
your third players. If you beat me, well, there you
45:55
go. Get you have the chance to beat
45:57
me. But they got to play.
45:58
They got to play at a top level and they never did.
46:01
And Bill Belichick was the king of doing that, finding ways to
46:04
beat teams. And by the way, Peyton Manning
46:08
over the years has said the hardest team to play against was
46:12
a Rex Ryan defense and a Bill Belichick defense.
46:15
Let's think, think about that. Arguably the greatest
46:18
quarterback of, well, you can argue the 2 greatest
46:20
quarterbacks of this era was Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
46:25
And Peyton Manning came out and said the only two defensive guys
46:29
that he couldn't play very well against is Bill Belichick and
46:32
Rex Ryan. Think about that.
46:34
And this guy is in the 1st. And Rex Ryan doesn't even itch
46:38
Bill Belichick's ass. He doesn't even come close.
46:41
He. Just puts a tattoo on he doesn't
46:42
even come. Close.
46:43
That's right, he probably. There's something, there's
46:45
definitely something fishy here going on, and I wouldn't put it
46:48
past the conspiracy theory that Bill, but Bill Polian found
46:51
eleven other guys to vote no so he could vote yes too.
46:54
You're literally talking about a guy that was just the biggest
46:57
bitch that had to create new rules to beat Bill Belichick,
47:02
right? Like he was the one going and
47:03
complaining the whole time with the Colts and all these other
47:06
teenies. He's a She's such a cry baby.
47:09
He's a sly man and again, a slither, as they call it.
47:13
And obviously Bill, and that's another guy.
47:17
The Jets have hired Bill Polian over the years to hire their
47:19
coaches. Yes, it hasn't worked for The
47:21
Jets. But he's another guy though,
47:24
like they come out a couple of days later to say that oh, he
47:26
voted for him. Then why did he change his Story
47:29
3 times? Yeah.
47:31
I don't know. I don't know, Jeff.
47:33
I, I I don't. Mention setting in that series
47:36
that the Jew can't A can't remember who we voted for and
47:38
then B was backtracking it and then didn't know.
47:41
Come on. It makes no sense.
47:43
None of. These He's a snake, you know,
47:45
he's an absolute snake. 100 percent, 100% a snake and and
47:50
again the NFL everybody on that committee should be ashamed of
47:53
themselves should be ashamed I'll.
47:55
Give you another one that makes Belichick the GOAT, right?
47:58
This dude actually read the rule book and did shit that had John
48:03
Harbaugh on the sidelines in tears, crying because he didn't
48:07
know the rules that Bill Belichick did because he
48:09
actually read the rule book. I mentioned that.
48:11
I mention it. And then it was John Harbaugh
48:14
that reached out to Indianapolis and told Indianapolis, oh,
48:18
they're deflating the balls, go get them.
48:20
And which is? Another farce which is a whole
48:22
nother made-up story. Yeah, it was John Harbaugh.
48:25
I just so everybody does it or they haven't watched football
48:28
too long. It was the one.
48:30
John Harbaugh was the one that reached out to Indianapolis and
48:33
created that whole deflate gate. It was John Harbaugh who now is
48:36
the head coach of the New York Giants, by the way.
48:38
So I I. Remember the rules there.
48:41
No, unfortunately, and I'm not saying John Horrible isn't a
48:44
nice guy and he's not talented at what he does.
48:46
It just it it everybody is jealous of his success.
48:50
And Bill Belichick has always gone out and and has been
48:53
successful. And if you give Belichick a
48:55
little bit more time, he'll probably be successful in the in
48:58
the NCAA too. If he could just keep that woman
49:00
into Yeah, that's. Not going to happen.
49:03
And keep her, you know, away from the field, I mean, or
49:05
something. I mean, that's not.
49:07
That's not going to happen. He's not.
49:10
Well, I, I think I, I will say this, that by next year I think
49:14
he will get another coaching job in the NFLII think that.
49:17
You'll, I don't know if they want to do that either.
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He's like at the age that if they hire him, they're going to
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just have to fire him in three years anyways and rebuild again.
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Most organizations don't want to do that.
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They want to fight. Everyone's looking for the next
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Bill Belichick in the sense that they're looking for the guy to
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have a 10 or 20 year run with. You're not having that with Old
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Bill. I agree with you, Jeff.
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Jeff, thank you for calling, Bud.
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And then one last point for you, Errol.
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I totally disagree that coaching defense is easier than coaching.
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Offense. Why is that?
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I can. I can come out and start a game
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and I could have all week just scripted plays, right?
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You can't script the defense and say it all.
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No matter what. This is what we're doing.
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No matter what personnel another team runs in, you can.
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Script one drive, Jeff. It was so great talking to you,
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Jeff. We love you, Jeff.
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Thank you for calling, Bud. Anyways, that's it for a show.
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Ladies and gentlemen. I want to give a shout out to
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Jabba Chamberlain. Hopefully he made it here in New
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York. OK.
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I will be talking to him, but Jabba will be back on Monday for
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all the fans, if they're wondering where he is, he flew
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from Nebraska to New York. So we love you, Jabba.
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We'll see you on Monday. Well, at least they'll see you
50:27
on Monday. I'll probably see you this
50:28
weekend. Thank you to all the obviously
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Spotify and Apple video and audio fans for downloading us as
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you always do. We really appreciate you guys.
50:37
All the X, all the Tik Toks, the Instagrams, Job in the mouth,
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YouTube channel, job in the mouth.
50:43
We have a new YouTube channel going up soon, so you guys will
50:46
be in tune for that. For all the New York fans out
50:48
there that want to see our New York takes, it'll be posted up
50:50
on that that stand. So yeah, it's been, it's been a
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crazy, crazy, crazy day, man. Stress all stress today.
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And like I said, I, I, I made the wrong decision.
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That's all I got to say. Oh, really, really wrong
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decision. I just put my head back.
51:07
I seriously probably would have felt Harold.
51:09
Saying one of these, he's leaning.
51:10
Back I was leaning back, I was closing my eyes I tried and
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foyer, you know it's so funny because foyer when he was
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smirking and stuff like that I know he was watching me close my
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eyes so he didn't want to say that but I I it's it's tiring
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man. I've never felt like this
51:24
before, so it feels like I'm like on a muscle relaxer and I
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can't even like I'm surprised, like my tongue's not hanging out
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of my mouth right now. Anyways, that's it.
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We will see you on Monday. Until then, have a good weekend.
51:40
Enjoy. Well, there's no football on
51:43
this weekend because we have a, you know, Super Bowl 60 next
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weekend and, and Nathan's flying over there.
51:48
So enjoy the ride and enjoy the show.
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What, you mean we got the Pro Bowl this week, don't we?
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Yeah. Wonderful Pro Bowl flag
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football. I don't want to watch the door
51:56
Sanders crash and burn. I mean, he was already on.
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I mean, Speedy, if you were playing in the Pro Bowl, you
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wouldn't crash and burn. I mean, come on, these guys.
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Don't give me something. Don't give me that.
52:06
It's flag football. It's.
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What I say it? Was flag football before it was
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flag football? Yeah, it's, it's the only flag
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I'm going to be wearing is the one that's going to be up my ass
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watching it. Anyways, that's it, ladies and
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gentlemen. Gotta go.
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Good night. It is the worldwide sports radio
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network.