Latest / Journey to the Fringe / Fringey Mini: the gates of Hell are dimming
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- 0:00I feel like for those three weeks I was really
- 0:04missing out on all the articles that I have been
- 0:06collecting, so no choices for you. This one's
- 0:10from the New York Times, which I just quickly
- 0:12did a seven day free trial for so I could read
- 0:15it to you. You're welcome. And it's titled, The
- 0:19Gates to Hell are Dimming. that may not be a
- 0:22good thing you guys also have to realize this
- 0:24is such a huge deal because chelsea will inevitably
- 0:27forget to cancel the seven day free membership
- 0:30and she will be paying for the new york times
- 0:32for a short period almost immediately i'm going
- 0:35to forget well let's read the article It might
- 0:39be the world's most baffling tourist attraction,
- 0:42a roaring pit of fire the size of a soccer field
- 0:46sitting in a barren desert. The Darvaza crater,
- 0:49known as the Gates to Hell, lies deep in territory
- 0:52of the isolated Central Asian nation of Turkmenistan.
- 0:56Very hard to get into, apparently. Yeah, we did
- 0:59an episode on it. It's super hard to get to.
- 1:01Yeah, this is a follow up mini, by the way. The
- 1:03crater has been burning for decades. Over the
- 1:06years, it has become a core draw for adventurous
- 1:09visitors and a puzzle for scientists and researchers.
- 1:12It has even been the backdrop for a self -promotional
- 1:15video by a Turkmen president. I'm surprised they
- 1:18have those by how hard it is to get into Turkmenistan.
- 1:21A Turkmen president? Yeah, exactly. No, like
- 1:25self -promotional video. Like come visit Turkmenistan.
- 1:28We have the gates of hell here. I think they
- 1:31might be advertising to people from Turkmenistan
- 1:33and or they're just trying to mislead people.
- 1:36Maybe. Like it's It might be easy to get to,
- 1:38but it's very hard. No, I mean, like they're
- 1:40just telling people to come visit it and they
- 1:42can never actually get there, but they'll buy
- 1:44stuff while they're there. That does make something
- 1:46a little bit more appealing to go visit, I think.
- 1:48We have the gates of hell. You'll never come
- 1:51see it, but try. You know what? Why didn't they
- 1:55try that? You can't see these. Look at this.
- 1:59They're so beautiful. It's really hard to get
- 2:00to. Yeah, you would never get in. We don't even
- 2:04want you. Turkmenistan, fuck off, the very famous.
- 2:09Tourism catchphrase they came up with that would
- 2:11make me want to visit it more actually I'd be
- 2:14like who's telling me to fuck off you fuck off
- 2:17Turkmenistan I'll come see you if I want to but
- 2:20now the flames of the gates to hell appear to
- 2:23be going out This is real bad for Turkmenistan
- 2:26tourism is gonna be hit so hard by the people
- 2:29who couldn't get there infrared imaging data
- 2:32taken this year shows that the fires within the
- 2:35natural gas crater are on the decline the intensity
- 2:38of heat from the flames has diminished by more
- 2:40than 75 % over the last three years according
- 2:44to an analysis by Cat Studio a company that monitors
- 2:49natural gas flares yeah 75 % three years at a
- 2:55time when so many fires both real and metaphorical
- 2:59have raged worldwide this should have been entirely
- 3:02good news Turkmenistan's government has vowed
- 3:05for years to extinguish the citing environmental
- 3:09damage and harm to people's health. It turns
- 3:12out that the story isn't quite so simple, but
- 3:14first it helps to know more about the crater.
- 3:17That was a really well -written article. There's
- 3:20fires all over the place. It's global warming.
- 3:24Why wouldn't you want to put a fire out? But
- 3:26there's more. It's origin is mysterious. According
- 3:30to local lore, Soviet geologists were drilling
- 3:33for oil in the 1960s or 70s. Very vague. Yes.
- 3:37Yeah, I was just going to say it's not that mysterious.
- 3:40Like there's a natural gas leak and they lit
- 3:42it and it just went longer than they expected.
- 3:45Like we know that. Hold on, maybe it's more experience.
- 3:48Because they didn't actually know how big the
- 3:49reserve was. You're really making it less mysterious,
- 3:52Taylor. Around the 60s or 70s, when they hit
- 3:56a natural gas deposit in the Karakum desert,
- 3:59the ground collapsed, creating an enormous pit.
- 4:02The geologists set a fire in the crevice to curb
- 4:05the emission of toxic fumes. They're making it
- 4:08actually even less mysterious than you had even
- 4:11made it. They figured the fire would burn out
- 4:13in weeks. Instead, more than five decades later
- 4:16a network of tunnels filled with gas continues
- 4:19to fuel the flames quote the history is always
- 4:22sketchy and quote said rich biel a Mongolia based
- 4:26guide for koro tours who says he has visited
- 4:29the site 30 times nobody quite knows what makes
- 4:32rich why so special why has he been there so
- 4:36much i know oh he's a tour guide oh okay i thought
- 4:40if he was somebody who was told you can't go
- 4:42there i know He was really showing them. But
- 4:46the attraction for some is unmistakable. Quote,
- 4:50it's a little like looking at a volcano that's
- 4:53been opened, end quote he said. But it wouldn't
- 4:55be. What? Isn't that what volcanoes are? Rich
- 4:59Beale. But there's no lava in this, right? No,
- 5:03there's just fire. Yeah. You're basically looking
- 5:05at a giant barbecue. Yeah, this is different
- 5:08than a volcano from what I'm putting together,
- 5:11right? I have a feeling that Rich only knows
- 5:13about, he's only ever had time in his life to
- 5:15go to this place and has never had time to look
- 5:18at a volcano. Volcano, yeah. That's what I'm
- 5:20thinking as well. Because people said, hey, go
- 5:23see a volcano. And he's like, nah. Rich Beal.
- 5:25Nah. They said not to go see this. Yeah. He's
- 5:28just trying to go to Turkmenistan as much as
- 5:31he possibly can. He's never been anywhere else.
- 5:34The Darvaza crater is difficult to visit. Foreigners
- 5:37need a visa to enter Turkmenistan, a former Soviet
- 5:40republic, and can only get one with a letter
- 5:43of invitation. The government of Turkmenistan
- 5:46did not respond to requests for comment, but
- 5:48the site of - oh, but that's a different - What
- 5:51- what do they want comment on? The site's going
- 5:53damn? Probably about Rich Beale being there so
- 5:56much. We don't talk about that. No comment on
- 6:00Rich Beale. The site's about a four hour drive
- 6:03from Turkmenistan's capital. This is all very
- 6:06boring. Where is it about that it's going out?
- 6:09The crater was also a backdrop for an unusual
- 6:11piece of political propaganda. Blah, blah, blah.
- 6:15Oh, Turkmenistan says it's tried to control the
- 6:18gases leaking out of the crater in a 2025 publication
- 6:22by the Turkmen Energy. forum an industry group
- 6:25the government attributed a decline in flames
- 6:28to two wells it drilled near the crater in 2024
- 6:31okay they're just talking about how it came to
- 6:34be not why it's going out i mean i thought it
- 6:37was pretty obvious it's running out of natural
- 6:39gas but i don't understand why it's bad yeah
- 6:43it does say in the next paragraph data suggests
- 6:45that the flames may have begun to dim before
- 6:48the wells were drilled so we already knew that
- 6:50so this is basically the end of the article Oh,
- 6:53is it because they're harvesting the natural
- 6:55gas now? It's hard to say. Okay, I feel like
- 6:59that's what they were trying to say. The article
- 7:01hasn't actually ended, but I feel like we...
- 7:04This is a mini. It's best to assume at this point.
- 7:07Yeah, exactly. This is a mini. read the whole
- 7:11thing and know what's going on, that's not our
- 7:14jobs. You guys got 48 hours. I'm not ending it
- 7:19here, I'm just telling them they got 48 hours
- 7:21at this point. Giving them a pre -warning. But
- 7:27now, now I've ruined it so you guys do have 48
- 7:30hours, go read it and tell us why it's bad.