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- 0:31Speaker 3: Hello friends, I'm your host, Chris Throw.
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- 0:44Speaker 4: Welcome to the Port the t Shirt Podcast. Miles, How
- 0:56Speaker 4: are you doing, sir?
- 0:57Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 0:58Speaker 4: Great, Thanks Chris, Thanks for having me on. No, it's
- 1:01Speaker 4: absolutely my pleasure. I remember I was doing a live
- 1:04Speaker 4: stream the other day, wasn't I? I was talking about some
- 1:07Speaker 4: of the topics we cover on this channel, like the
- 1:10Speaker 4: digital identity, anything to do with the downfall of Kei Starmer.
- 1:16Speaker 4: It's always popular, as you know, Mars. I was trying
- 1:19Speaker 4: to pitch it a bit higher to understand who controls
- 1:23Speaker 4: the Keias Starmers of the world, and you left a
- 1:27Speaker 4: very valid comment, the likes of which I won't pretend
- 1:30Speaker 4: I've got the brain cells to remember. And I thought,
- 1:33Speaker 4: you need to come on the show so before we
- 1:37Speaker 4: get into your story, just to sort of start rip
- 1:40Speaker 4: rawing so people can get a grip of what we're
- 1:43Speaker 4: going to be talking about. The other day, Company's House
- 1:47Speaker 4: sent me an email. It said, could I. It was
- 1:51Speaker 4: something to do with they wanted this new login thing.
- 1:54Speaker 4: I didn't really pay that much attention to it, and
- 1:58Speaker 4: I needed to provide some idea now. Immediately I thought
- 2:01Speaker 4: of Gary Waterman, the former police officer who, as everyone knows,
- 2:06Speaker 4: Gary lives in his van. He's a renegade outlaw. He's
- 2:11Speaker 4: not opposed to taking down some of these five G
- 2:15Speaker 4: towers and stuff and publicly owning it because in his view,
- 2:20Speaker 4: they're illegal, et cetera, et cetera. And I'm not here
- 2:24Speaker 4: to kind of talk about Gary, which I know a
- 2:27Speaker 4: lot of people like to do. What I'm here to
- 2:29Speaker 4: say is he highlighted how Company's House, how these companies
- 2:34Speaker 4: that are registered on there or incorporated or limited, whatever
- 2:39Speaker 4: the right expression is, a lot of them are falsified
- 2:42Speaker 4: that the owners can be several different people or they
- 2:46Speaker 4: can change adadadad. And so suddenly, Miles I saw this
- 2:52Speaker 4: need for a let me just think of the word
- 2:57Speaker 4: to acknowledge, who are these people through them having to
- 3:02Speaker 4: provide identification? That's what I'm and I thought, Wow, maybe
- 3:06Speaker 4: Gary's really hit something here and they've had to pay attention,
- 3:11Speaker 4: which is how it come across. The point I'm getting
- 3:14Speaker 4: at is, hang on a sec, did they just get
- 3:17Speaker 4: us into the digital ID thing by the back door?
- 3:22Speaker 5: I think it's worth just breaking it down slightly there
- 3:24Speaker 5: and just understanding exactly what is distinct about this digital
- 3:29Speaker 5: ID and what's so powerful about it really, and that
- 3:33Speaker 5: is the if you think about current systems that they're
- 3:37Speaker 5: actually siloed. So for instance, you've got your passport, you've
- 3:41Speaker 5: got your driving license, and they're all in different departmental
- 3:46Speaker 5: silos in essence. Now, the key difference with digital ID
- 3:52Speaker 5: is that they effectively want to bring all of those
- 3:56Speaker 5: different silos together into one interoperable database which records your identity. Now,
- 4:04Speaker 5: to do that, they've got to have a verified ID system.
- 4:09Speaker 5: So that will mean that you've got to have a
- 4:11Speaker 5: government document scan so that you actually submit that and
- 4:16Speaker 5: in addition, they will then also authenticate that against your
- 4:21Speaker 5: facial against facial recognition software via a selfie or a photo,
- 4:29Speaker 5: and the primary way in which they're doing this at
- 4:32Speaker 5: the moment is via the government's one log in sight. Now,
- 4:37Speaker 5: there's an article which came out recently which I've covered
- 4:41Speaker 5: on my channel there which suggests that eleven million people
- 4:45Speaker 5: have already signed up to this. Now, as we know,
- 4:48Speaker 5: the government doesn't often tell the truth, So how believable
- 4:53Speaker 5: that figure is, we don't know, but it's certainly a
- 4:57Speaker 5: decent number of people. And the number of emails and
- 5:00Speaker 5: the number of comments that I've received for people that
- 5:03Speaker 5: now actually realize that they have signed up to digital
- 5:07Speaker 5: ID unknowingly is yeah, it's obviously troublesome, and you know,
- 5:14Speaker 5: it's it's really a complete abuse of trust in essence
- 5:20Speaker 5: because you don't necessarily realize that you're signing up for
- 5:23Speaker 5: digital ID. And that's the key point that I've really
- 5:27Speaker 5: wanted to actually stress on my channel that actually it's
- 5:31Speaker 5: not about this this brick card or a downloadable element there,
- 5:37Speaker 5: or a downloadable app for instance. It is actually having
- 5:41Speaker 5: a unique identifier. So if you've got that unique identifier,
- 5:46Speaker 5: which is then available to be shared across government services
- 5:52Speaker 5: and later private services as well. Then that's that's what
- 5:57Speaker 5: they want, and they want everyone signed up to this
- 6:01Speaker 5: sort of one login system ultimately, So that's what they're
- 6:05Speaker 5: really targeting, and that is ultimately the real anchor point
- 6:11Speaker 5: for all identity across government, and that, as I said,
- 6:15Speaker 5: turns those separate databases into one network identity system, and
- 6:21Speaker 5: you're granting consent ultimately by signing up and verifying on
- 6:26Speaker 5: one ID, even if there is a fair bit of
- 6:29Speaker 5: coercion that's obviously taking place in encouraging you to sign.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Up to it.
- 6:33Speaker 4: There's a lot to unpack in just this alone. And
- 6:36Speaker 4: we will friends at home, we will come onto Myles story.
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- 7:13Speaker 4: appreciate it. Mys A lot to unpick there, in no
- 7:17Speaker 4: particular order. So the first thing is what do we
- 7:22Speaker 4: say to people who quite rightly point out that, well,
- 7:27Speaker 4: hang on a sec Having all your information centralized rather
- 7:32Speaker 4: than spread across different databases cuts an awful lot of
- 7:36Speaker 4: work down for government bureaucracy services officials, as it does.
- 7:42Speaker 2: For you.
- 7:44Speaker 4: Having the one you know having this one database.
- 7:49Speaker 5: Well, I think what you've then ultimately got to consider
- 7:53Speaker 5: is that this creates a single point of control and
- 7:57Speaker 5: that is ultimately the perfect infrastructure for mass data sharing.
- 8:02Speaker 5: So your data will be sold and shared surveillance and
- 8:06Speaker 5: potentially social credit scoring as well, and so eventually in time,
- 8:13Speaker 5: what that could mean is the actual need to actually
- 8:18Speaker 5: forego bodily autonomy to avert the prospect of someone hitting
- 8:25Speaker 5: that kill switch on your identify. And in addition to that,
- 8:32Speaker 5: when you consider programmable currency, which is now under pilot
- 8:37Speaker 5: in the UK, it potentially means that you can also
- 8:41Speaker 5: lose the ability to transact. So I think there's two
- 8:45Speaker 5: key elements there. If you want to maintain bodily autonomy,
- 8:48Speaker 5: and if you want to maintain and ensure that you
- 8:50Speaker 5: always have the ability to transact, Yeah, you don't really
- 8:55Speaker 5: want to go for the digital idea.
- 8:57Speaker 4: So let's just take a scenario. Let's just say I
- 9:01Speaker 4: take my newborn child to a I don't know a
- 9:05Speaker 4: healthcare system and they make it undergo a certain procedure
- 9:10Speaker 4: and my child then gets damaged for life or heaven forbid,
- 9:15Speaker 4: drops down dead. Off the back of that, I go
- 9:18Speaker 4: and do some research into the history of these kind
- 9:22Speaker 4: of procedures and come to the conclusion, as a you know,
- 9:26Speaker 4: an educated fifty six year old adult, that hang on,
- 9:32Speaker 4: there's no validity in this. In fact, there's probably there's
- 9:36Speaker 4: only harm with no benefit whatsoever. And therefore, when the
- 9:41Speaker 4: government and through their mainstream media starts shouting that I've
- 9:46Speaker 4: got to go and have a procedure down at the doctors,
- 9:49Speaker 4: and I'm like, fuck, that are you saying that I
- 9:53Speaker 4: could my credit score could be affected if I don't comply.
- 9:58Speaker 5: Well, of course they're not openly stating any of this,
- 10:03Speaker 5: and it tends to come through other bodies in which
- 10:07Speaker 5: you can see the direction that we're heading towards. Ultimately,
- 10:14Speaker 5: and what they have built therefore is they've built the
- 10:18Speaker 5: perfect infrastructure to actually enable that. Yes, yeah, so that's
- 10:23Speaker 5: what we're talking about there. Yeah, And recently the Carbon
- 10:26Speaker 5: Trust came out with a paper which was identifying how
- 10:30Speaker 5: they want to allocate carbon rations innocence to two individuals.
- 10:38Speaker 5: And that's obviously another concern because when you're talking about
- 10:42Speaker 5: programmable money, you were talking about the ability to actually
- 10:47Speaker 5: determine every transaction that is made. And when every product
- 10:52Speaker 5: then has a carbon allowance attached to it, then you
- 10:58Speaker 5: can see that. Yeah, it's it's getting a little bit dystopian,
- 11:02Speaker 5: to say the least.
- 11:03Speaker 4: Really right, I've got you, I've got you going back
- 11:08Speaker 4: to the company's house registration. And for our friends out there,
- 11:13Speaker 4: let's not forget that this affects an awful lot of people.
- 11:17Speaker 4: I've got two companies I'm a director and two companies
- 11:21Speaker 4: myself just to do what I do Miles.
- 11:24Speaker 3: And.
- 11:26Speaker 4: At first I was I always kind of look at
- 11:29Speaker 4: this as a third part and oh, they're making those
- 11:31Speaker 4: poor guys do that, And Hanna say, I'm I'm actually
- 11:34Speaker 4: what this is affecting me. My best mate messaged me
- 11:38Speaker 4: the other day straight away after I did a live
- 11:41Speaker 4: stream and said, Chris, this is you know, company's house
- 11:45Speaker 4: are forcing people to do. And it was only then
- 11:48Speaker 4: that I kind of was like, ah, so there's more
- 11:51Speaker 4: to this than just some new fancy you know log
- 11:55Speaker 4: in and a bit more kind of security on who's
- 11:58Speaker 4: starting a company these days. So that said, how can
- 12:03Speaker 4: they make this law legal that you have to.
- 12:07Speaker 5: Well, that's a very good question because if you consider
- 12:12Speaker 5: the Identity Documents Act of twenty ten, that actually prevents
- 12:19Speaker 5: a national register, and that really did act to actually
- 12:25Speaker 5: put the nail in the coffin of the campaign towards
- 12:30Speaker 5: ID cards at that time. Now that Act would need
- 12:35Speaker 5: to be repealed or amended. So I think really what
- 12:40Speaker 5: they're hoping to actually generate there is a critical mass
- 12:44Speaker 5: of people that have actually signed up to the one
- 12:48Speaker 5: login system. And then once they've actually got everyone, not everyone,
- 12:55Speaker 5: but a lot of people that critical mass signed up
- 12:58Speaker 5: to the one log in system, then they can then
- 13:04Speaker 5: look towards repealing that act because the public have almost
- 13:08Speaker 5: consented and actually agreed to it. But in addition to that,
- 13:12Speaker 5: what they're also doing is building this via a federated mechanism.
- 13:18Speaker 5: Now I break that down in various videos on my
- 13:22Speaker 5: channel there. But the federated mechanism ultimately uses a public
- 13:27Speaker 5: private partnership to actually store the verified identities, so they're
- 13:34Speaker 5: not necessarily held by the government themselves, and so they're
- 13:40Speaker 5: being very very crafty in the way in which they're
- 13:42Speaker 5: working around that legal aspect as well.
- 13:47Speaker 4: Yeah. I read something saw something just yesterday saying the
- 13:51Speaker 4: company that they've got in actually no longer has any
- 13:56Speaker 4: kind of authority, They have their authority canceled.
- 14:01Speaker 5: Yes, that's right. Yes, yeah, now I did see that myself.
- 14:06Speaker 5: I haven't really dived into that as i'd like to yet. Yeah,
- 14:10Speaker 5: I've just been working on some other big news as well,
- 14:13Speaker 5: which is absolutely enormous as well, which we can come
- 14:17Speaker 5: on to in a moment, I think. But yes, of course,
- 14:20Speaker 5: as soon as you've got one centralized database, then you
- 14:25Speaker 5: have that one point of control, but you also have
- 14:28Speaker 5: that one point of failure within the system.
- 14:30Speaker 2: So yeah, that's absolutely a key concern.
- 14:35Speaker 4: Yes, And you talked about critical mass there. We saw
- 14:39Speaker 4: during a certain medical scenario people who were willing to
- 14:45Speaker 4: place their lives on the line in order to go
- 14:49Speaker 4: on holiday with their mates, and I sort of get it.
- 14:52Speaker 4: I can imagine being a nineteen year old. All your
- 14:56Speaker 4: mates are going to beefa and they're going to be
- 14:58Speaker 4: you know, popping pill and giving it large on the
- 15:01Speaker 4: dance floor all week, and there's you stuck in Rotherham,
- 15:07Speaker 4: stuck in the chairs that you know, you can understand
- 15:10Speaker 4: why people went, uh, oh, fuck it, just give it,
- 15:13Speaker 4: you know, I'll just do it. And the same obviously military.
- 15:17Speaker 4: Every military person who dreamt of joining the military since
- 15:20Speaker 4: being seven years old or something finally gets that quote
- 15:26Speaker 4: unquote prestigious colored hat on their head and then gets told,
- 15:30Speaker 4: hang on, if you don't take this, we'll either kick
- 15:32Speaker 4: you out or we won't let you you know, actually
- 15:35Speaker 4: go and do your job when the opportunity comes. You
- 15:38Speaker 4: can understand why a lot of them weakened. Can we
- 15:43Speaker 4: say so? I foresee a situation where all you and
- 15:49Speaker 4: your mates are queuing to get in the nightclub. They
- 15:51Speaker 4: want to verify who's coming in this club, so they
- 15:55Speaker 4: log into the government system and if you're not on there,
- 15:58Speaker 4: you don't get in. And even though it's only in
- 16:01Speaker 4: the planning at the moment, yadda, yadda, they still can
- 16:05Speaker 4: say no. Sorry. Chris, mister Thrall, you ain't coming in,
- 16:10Speaker 4: but all your mates in you come, come and have
- 16:12Speaker 4: a great time, free drink at the bar, you know.
- 16:16Speaker 4: And that's going to put a lot of pressure on people,
- 16:18Speaker 4: isn't it to say, Ah, look I don't I don't
- 16:21Speaker 4: agree with it, but I'm going to do it anyway.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Oh so true.
- 16:25Speaker 5: And you know, we already see enormous division within the
- 16:29Speaker 5: country as it is, and everyone's broken down into you know,
- 16:34Speaker 5: these these different silos and deliberately, so you know, that's
- 16:39Speaker 5: one of the key aims of politics to do that.
- 16:43Speaker 5: And you can see that this is going to fragment
- 16:46Speaker 5: society and it is it is intended to do so. Yeah,
- 16:54Speaker 5: So it's it's meant to persecute those that actually don't
- 16:56Speaker 5: want to go along with it.
- 16:57Speaker 2: It seems.
- 16:59Speaker 4: Going back to my questions, sorry, I couldn't remember if
- 17:01Speaker 4: we got to the bottom of it, I couldn't see
- 17:03Speaker 4: how this could be legal so quickly. What if I'd
- 17:06Speaker 4: said to companies, what if I said to companies house, ah,
- 17:09Speaker 4: I'm not going to do it.
- 17:10Speaker 5: Well, I think ultimately, Chris's that's really what is needed.
- 17:15Speaker 5: Mass non compliance, the unwillingness to actually go along with
- 17:20Speaker 5: what they are demanding and saying no, I want a
- 17:22Speaker 5: payper alternative. I want to complete a paper alternative, you know,
- 17:26Speaker 5: and I'm happy to actually verify the details there, but
- 17:30Speaker 5: I'm not actually happy to consent to a digital online system.
- 17:34Speaker 5: And you know, that's what we need to do when
- 17:36Speaker 5: it comes to any driving license applications, any passport applications,
- 17:42Speaker 5: because they are trying to push people through that one
- 17:46Speaker 5: log in system for all of it. And it's intended
- 17:49Speaker 5: that the migration takes place for everything. So if you're
- 17:53Speaker 5: self employed, the government gateway system is intended towards intended
- 17:59Speaker 5: to migrate to the one log in system and so on.
- 18:03Speaker 5: So if we all collectively ensure that we maintain those
- 18:09Speaker 5: parallel systems which don't involve actually giving away a verified
- 18:16Speaker 5: identity to a one log in style system, a centralized
- 18:21Speaker 5: database ultimately, then then that's what we need to do.
- 18:26Speaker 4: Yes, gosh, I don't I mean, I guess none of
- 18:30Speaker 4: us know what the repercussions will will be. Not that
- 18:33Speaker 4: I'm saying that should scare anyone, but whether they'll just say, okay,
- 18:38Speaker 4: well then you don't have a company, you can't trade
- 18:42Speaker 4: pass past.
- 18:43Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an awful discriminatory practice that is being undertaken,
- 18:49Speaker 5: and it's being undertaken by stealth, so the majority of
- 18:53Speaker 5: people are not aware of.
- 18:57Speaker 2: What's really being.
- 18:58Speaker 5: Demanded of them by having to sign up to this
- 19:01Speaker 5: one login by the eighteenth November and all.
- 19:04Speaker 2: The rest of it.
- 19:06Speaker 4: Yes, Miles, tell us a bit about yourself. Now that
- 19:09Speaker 4: we've got our initial we've got on the crest of
- 19:12Speaker 4: our initial wave.
- 19:13Speaker 5: Yeah. So I kind of followed the normal sort of
- 19:17Speaker 5: academic pathway when I was at school, college, went to university.
- 19:23Speaker 5: Then by about the third year of university, I really
- 19:27Speaker 5: got into understanding the mechanisms of financial bubbles and financial
- 19:34Speaker 5: crises and wrote a dissertation on that in my final year,
- 19:39Speaker 5: and then went on to write a thesis about the
- 19:43Speaker 5: various financial crises that were taking place around the late
- 19:47Speaker 5: nineties into two thousands that included the likes of Russia, Asia,
- 19:53Speaker 5: and strangely, at the same time, you also had China,
- 19:56Speaker 5: which appeared to have many of the same sort of
- 19:59Speaker 5: weaknesses economic fundamental weaknesses inherent within its economy. But yeah,
- 20:06Speaker 5: it was able to actually move through a period of
- 20:11Speaker 5: enormous emerging market disruption without significant impact upon its economy
- 20:18Speaker 5: and so I really got into that in my master's thesis.
- 20:21Speaker 5: And at the same time I had also inherited a
- 20:26Speaker 5: bit of money from my gran and this was really
- 20:30Speaker 5: when all the kind of madness had started. And at
- 20:35Speaker 5: that time, while I was still at university, I took
- 20:37Speaker 5: that I think it was about ten thousand pounds or so.
- 20:40Speaker 5: I took that ten thousand pounds and then took a
- 20:43Speaker 5: self certified mortgage out to actually buy a property. I
- 20:47Speaker 5: think it was like a four bed house for it
- 20:49Speaker 5: was about fifty eight grand Chris. It was just crazy
- 20:53Speaker 5: because this was back in what nineteen ninety nine, And yeah,
- 20:59Speaker 5: then let that property out and you know, I almost
- 21:03Speaker 5: doubled my money within a year basically. And so by that
- 21:07Speaker 5: time I had decided to go against a career in
- 21:12Speaker 5: the city and really pursued my own path in terms
- 21:16Speaker 5: of actually investing in property. And you know, that's not
- 21:21Speaker 5: necessarily something I approve of now, but you know, you're
- 21:25Speaker 5: not necessarily talked about talk about the ethics and so
- 21:28Speaker 5: on when you're at school, college, university, you know of
- 21:32Speaker 5: what's actually taking place. But of course that was all
- 21:36Speaker 5: about the run up and the fueling of the housing bubble.
- 21:38Speaker 5: Prior to two thousand and eight, and so yeah, it
- 21:43Speaker 5: was a very interesting time all of that, but highly
- 21:47Speaker 5: controversial that housing should ever have been turned into an
- 21:51Speaker 5: investment vehicle, which of course it shouldn't have been. And yeah,
- 21:56Speaker 5: then I also got into teaching economics just because I've
- 21:59Speaker 5: always had like a real passion for the subject. And
- 22:01Speaker 5: I was very, very fortunate though, I was able to
- 22:04Speaker 5: actually teach in school, which was teaching really really academic
- 22:09Speaker 5: students and really sort of testing their knowledge and also
- 22:13Speaker 5: introducing them to some of the principles of Austrian economics,
- 22:16Speaker 5: which you know is more about hard money and not
- 22:19Speaker 5: necessarily just creating these enormous credit bubbles. And you know,
- 22:26Speaker 5: I was just getting them to really look at the
- 22:28Speaker 5: world differently, because that's mad advice. Where would you ever
- 22:31Speaker 5: learn that in school? That actually the best thing I
- 22:34Speaker 5: could have done when I was at university is take
- 22:38Speaker 5: out enormous leverage when I didn't have an income at
- 22:42Speaker 5: the time, and was just saying, oh, yes, I earned
- 22:44Speaker 5: this much per year, which is just madness, but that's
- 22:48Speaker 5: that's how they fueled these financial bubbles ultimately, by enormous
- 22:54Speaker 5: credit and leverage. And so yeah, then I couldn't take
- 22:59Speaker 5: any more of that because it was just getting a
- 23:01Speaker 5: little too crazy, and so I was happy to step.
- 23:04Speaker 2: Away from that. And so you know, I now since
- 23:09Speaker 2: unwound a lot of.
- 23:10Speaker 5: My portfolio there, and yeah, I have just been focusing
- 23:15Speaker 5: on educating people, I suppose in terms of what's going
- 23:18Speaker 5: on in the world now from an economic standpoint.
- 23:21Speaker 4: Myles, what is it that drives you? Because you clearly,
- 23:23Speaker 4: I mean I've been showing your YouTube channel here, you're
- 23:26Speaker 4: doing an awful lot to help people understand, you know,
- 23:31Speaker 4: the basically the huge psy ops that we're being placed under,
- 23:37Speaker 4: and particularly the financial financial element of it. What is
- 23:42Speaker 4: it that drives you to be a people person rather
- 23:45Speaker 4: than just a ruthless moneymaker, which you obviously have the
- 23:49Speaker 4: ability to be.
- 23:51Speaker 5: I think, really it's about truth and it's also I
- 23:56Speaker 5: would say a love of humanity as well that actually,
- 24:00Speaker 5: you know, my perspective on humanity is really that we're
- 24:04Speaker 5: all one, but we're being deliberately divided, and I hope
- 24:09Speaker 5: ultimately for humanity that we have and can actually manage
- 24:15Speaker 5: ourselves towards a better future by taking action and actually
- 24:19Speaker 5: you know, gradually removing ourselves from a system which is
- 24:24Speaker 5: ultimately anti human. As I mentioned, you know, there is
- 24:29Speaker 5: a clear example that housing should never have been used
- 24:33Speaker 5: as an investment vehicle, and you know that obviously that's
- 24:37Speaker 5: work to generate enormous economic inequality. And while I may
- 24:44Speaker 5: have been on the right side of that, there's there's
- 24:46Speaker 5: millions that have been on the wrong side of that
- 24:48Speaker 5: and continue to be.
- 24:50Speaker 2: So, you know, the likes of fifty year.
- 24:53Speaker 5: Mortgages is just just morally bankrupt as a concept. Yeah, yeah,
- 25:01Speaker 5: it's just wrong. So ultimately I would say it's that Chris.
- 25:05Speaker 5: You know, it's about truth and it's about belief in
- 25:07Speaker 5: humanity that we should have something better.
- 25:10Speaker 4: Are you familiar Miles with that? I believe it's the
- 25:13Speaker 4: German and Norwegian system where you don't do any of
- 25:17Speaker 4: this mortgage stuff. Your parents build you a house of
- 25:21Speaker 4: which you you know, you're obviously welcome to play a
- 25:24Speaker 4: part in building it, so as such, you don't start
- 25:27Speaker 4: out your journey on life with this fifty like you said,
- 25:31Speaker 4: you know, twenty five to fifty year debt.
- 25:33Speaker 5: Yeah, well obviously that's that's huge, that's absolutely huge. And yeah,
- 25:38Speaker 5: just going back to what I'm saying about working in
- 25:42Speaker 5: the teaching environment as well. I wasn't able to actually
- 25:46Speaker 5: endorse university. You know, there's a couple of documentaries so
- 25:51Speaker 5: I'd recommend which almost taught me more economics than I
- 25:56Speaker 5: actually learned, you know, certainly through my bachelor's degree. And
- 26:02Speaker 5: that's quite that's quite enormous because you've got all these
- 26:07Speaker 5: kids going off to university and signing up to all
- 26:10Speaker 5: this enormous debt, and they're starting their careers with a
- 26:15Speaker 5: substantial negative net worth, which again is just wrong.
- 26:19Speaker 2: And then maybe.
- 26:20Speaker 5: They accumulate a bit of the deposit for a house
- 26:24Speaker 5: over the next sort of five ten years or whatever,
- 26:28Speaker 5: and then they take on more debt, and yeah, it's
- 26:31Speaker 5: just as I said, it's debt slavery. It's anti human
- 26:35Speaker 5: and I think we can do better. And there's ultimately
- 26:40Speaker 5: millions of us that actually realize that now. And so
- 26:44Speaker 5: what's really needed there is actually for us to see
- 26:47Speaker 5: that as an opportunity and say, right, okay, let's actually
- 26:52Speaker 5: stand up for ourselves here and let's do something better.
- 26:55Speaker 4: Yes, any society where the elders, oh, certainly those manipulating
- 27:02Speaker 4: and controlling them put you in debt for you know,
- 27:07Speaker 4: possibly the next twenty years, for giving you an education.
- 27:12Speaker 4: Could you imagine the Indigenous Americans that what we used
- 27:16Speaker 4: to call the Red Indians when we were a kid, saying,
- 27:19Speaker 4: you know, ah, right, First of all, I'm not going
- 27:22Speaker 4: to teach you how to make a bow and arrow.
- 27:25Speaker 4: I want you know, you've got to pay me. You've
- 27:28Speaker 4: got to pay me all this money. Promise to pay
- 27:31Speaker 4: me all this money back for the next time.
- 27:33Speaker 2: It's so true. Yeah, it's so true, Chris.
- 27:36Speaker 5: And you know what I find interesting about all of
- 27:38Speaker 5: that is that even when it comes to say the
- 27:40Speaker 5: Austrian school of economics and that very much perceives the
- 27:44Speaker 5: hard money as being the kind of ultimate good, the
- 27:47Speaker 5: ultimate truth, and so on.
- 27:49Speaker 2: But when you actually dig into the history of.
- 27:52Speaker 5: These these things, it gets a little muddier, a lot cloudier. So,
- 27:56Speaker 5: for instance, a golden ilver were not considered to be
- 28:01Speaker 5: money in any Latin American tribal system, nor in any
- 28:08Speaker 5: African kingdom, nor in ancient Greece prior to the Greek
- 28:17Speaker 5: financial revolution of what the ninth century BC. None of
- 28:23Speaker 5: these other areas around the world actually considered it to
- 28:27Speaker 5: be money. And I find that absolutely fascinating. So it
- 28:32Speaker 5: was almost an anomaly in the Mesopotamian world, and then
- 28:37Speaker 5: what subsequently happened via the advent of interest bearing debt
- 28:43Speaker 5: arriving on Greek shores in the ninth century BC, was
- 28:48Speaker 5: that you then had gold and silver being considered to
- 28:51Speaker 5: be money, whereas I think, really money is just an
- 28:55Speaker 5: abstraction of what is real wealth, and what is real
- 28:57Speaker 5: wealth well, and it's shelter, it's community, its skills, and
- 29:05Speaker 5: that is ultimately what money can help you to actually buy.
- 29:09Speaker 4: Yes, I want to come on and talk of these
- 29:12Speaker 4: documentaries that you spoke of, because I like you. I
- 29:15Speaker 4: watched a couple that really open my eyes up to
- 29:19Speaker 4: the big sort of scam that's in play. But first
- 29:23Speaker 4: I wanted to ask have you read The Babylonian Woe?
- 29:26Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, Yeah, excellent book.
- 29:28Speaker 5: No, I'd really recommend that to anyone. Yeah, and I
- 29:32Speaker 5: think he does a very very good job in that book,
- 29:36Speaker 5: and just from a historical perspective, it's very interesting.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you've read it as well, have you? Absolutely?
- 29:46Speaker 4: I've got a good friend called Mike McCarthy. We've been
- 29:49Speaker 4: sort of touching base on and off over the years.
- 29:52Speaker 4: Is Guy's former paratrooper from the Falklands. The first person
- 29:57Speaker 4: I think to base jump off the Empires State Building,
- 30:01Speaker 4: the Eiffel Tower. Absolute maniac, incredibly academic sort of intellectual leaning,
- 30:11Speaker 4: and as such he's got an incredible grasp on what's
- 30:16Speaker 4: going on on the what's going on in the world.
- 30:21Speaker 4: And he's recommended several books to me over the years,
- 30:24Speaker 4: and one of them was The Babylonian Woe and What
- 30:26Speaker 4: They Got from it, Miles Without Friends. There's a link
- 30:30Speaker 4: below in the description box if you want to grab
- 30:32Speaker 4: yourself a copy. I'm showing it on the screen now.
- 30:36Speaker 4: But the basic understanding that money used to be a
- 30:39Speaker 4: simple system of exchange. You know, we used to be
- 30:41Speaker 4: done with cockle shells, and it was you scratch my back,
- 30:45Speaker 4: I scratch yours if I can't scratch yours. Look, there's
- 30:47Speaker 4: a cockle shell. You can take that to any anywhere
- 30:51Speaker 4: in the land around us, or in fact maybe even
- 30:54Speaker 4: the next countries. And that cockleshell represents the amount of
- 30:58Speaker 4: work you did for me. It doesn't represent interest, gold gain, profit, usury,
- 31:05Speaker 4: money lending, what it no, It's it's just you know,
- 31:09Speaker 4: if you bring me a chicken and I haven't got
- 31:12Speaker 4: a goat to give you, I'll give you four cockle
- 31:15Speaker 4: shells that represents the value of a goat. And the
- 31:19Speaker 4: merchants who we talk about a lot on my channel,
- 31:22Speaker 4: they got stuck in there because they thought, hang on,
- 31:25Speaker 4: why don't we start a ledger where we start lending
- 31:28Speaker 4: out the cockle shells and when people come to pay
- 31:31Speaker 4: them back, we charge them interest. So we lend out ten,
- 31:34Speaker 4: they've got to bring us back ten. And then this
- 31:38Speaker 4: system was incorporated into all of the structure, all of
- 31:42Speaker 4: the churches, the castles, you know, the apparatus of life,
- 31:49Speaker 4: and so all the leaders that are supposed to look
- 31:52Speaker 4: out for us were corrupted four to six thousand years
- 31:55Speaker 4: ago by saying, look, mister king, your wealth doesn't like
- 32:00Speaker 4: in looking after your people. You're wealth lies and how
- 32:03Speaker 4: much gold you can get in your seller. This is
- 32:05Speaker 4: exactly you can see the system today, how it's worked
- 32:10Speaker 4: so well. We've got royal families that are the richest
- 32:13Speaker 4: people on the planet. We've got footballers that their whole
- 32:19Speaker 4: life becomes about kicking a ball on the TV. But
- 32:22Speaker 4: then behind the scenes amassing this absolute fortune for what
- 32:29Speaker 4: you know, you're valueizing your service to others, not how
- 32:34Speaker 4: much money you've you know, And of course we all
- 32:37Speaker 4: know about the gold backstandard. How that, like you just said,
- 32:40Speaker 4: Mars gold was looked at as valueless by the incas
- 32:44Speaker 4: and all these people. They just used it to make
- 32:46Speaker 4: stuff because it was pretty.
- 32:49Speaker 2: They preferred cacao beans.
- 32:50Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, so yes, great brilliant. Let's talk about the documentaries.
- 32:57Speaker 4: Would one of them have been The Money Master's Money Chance?
- 33:01Speaker 5: I would probably put Prince the En as my number one. Yeah,
- 33:05Speaker 5: I think that one's that one's almost foundational in just
- 33:09Speaker 5: understanding the process of credit creation, and that really does
- 33:16Speaker 5: change everything within the whole economics model because the professor
- 33:22Speaker 5: that actually wrote the book on that and is involved
- 33:26Speaker 5: in the documentary there, he essentially identifies that and disaggregates
- 33:33Speaker 5: credit between productive and non productive usage. And so firstly,
- 33:39Speaker 5: it considers banks as the primary source of money, so
- 33:44Speaker 5: the ability to create ninety seven percent or so of money,
- 33:49Speaker 5: and that is then profound. And so where then does
- 33:53Speaker 5: that purchasing power go, that newly created credit. Well, of
- 33:57Speaker 5: course in the UK and other highly finances economies, and
- 34:01Speaker 5: increasingly you can include Germany within that. And of course
- 34:04Speaker 5: Germany is now stagnating, it's lost its industrial capacity, and
- 34:09Speaker 5: that's deliberately so really because too much credit is flowing
- 34:13Speaker 5: into the housing market and just facilitating asset bubbles ultimately.
- 34:19Speaker 5: And one of my favorite passages in the book Babylonian
- 34:24Speaker 5: Woe is where he states about no sooner had one
- 34:29Speaker 5: empire or one kingdom actually accrued all of the gold
- 34:34Speaker 5: or the silver, than they subsequently then lost it to
- 34:37Speaker 5: the next rising kingdom. And really that just emphasizes that
- 34:43Speaker 5: principle of the generation of credit out of nothing, so
- 34:49Speaker 5: that that can then fund wars that can fund enormous
- 34:53Speaker 5: asset bubbles and so on. So yeah, i'd certainly put
- 34:59Speaker 5: Princes of the it is probably my number one. And
- 35:02Speaker 5: then it's very worthwhile having a look at Mike Maloney's
- 35:04Speaker 5: series on gold and silver. And I think also it's
- 35:12Speaker 5: just important to always interrogate these elements as well, because
- 35:17Speaker 5: I don't believe any source is one hundred percent accurate.
- 35:23Speaker 5: You're not going to get one hundred percent accuracy within
- 35:26Speaker 5: everything because it has deliberately been so clouded and history
- 35:32Speaker 5: has been distorted so much, and so while sources may
- 35:37Speaker 5: be provided for this or that and so on, there
- 35:40Speaker 5: is no one hundred percent element there. And then I
- 35:44Speaker 5: think another very worthwhile element to actually combine with something
- 35:48Speaker 5: like the Babylonian Woe Book would be William Cooper's Mystery
- 35:54Speaker 5: Babylon series. And I don't know whether you've ever come
- 35:58Speaker 5: across acres.
- 36:00Speaker 4: Bill shot by a police officer, wasn't he in the end?
- 36:03Speaker 5: Yes?
- 36:03Speaker 2: That's right? Yeah?
- 36:04Speaker 4: Was it just after nine to eleven?
- 36:07Speaker 2: I'm not sure? Actually yeah, let me just have a
- 36:11Speaker 2: top of my head.
- 36:12Speaker 4: Yeah, November the fifth, two thousand and one. So this
- 36:17Speaker 4: just showing our friends at home. This was Bill Cooper, folks.
- 36:21Speaker 4: He wrote a very famous book book called Beholder Pale Horse.
- 36:26Speaker 5: The whole series there, Mystery Babylon is available on archive
- 36:30Speaker 5: dot org. Actually right, so it's ultimately a series of podcasts,
- 36:35Speaker 5: radio shows back.
- 36:36Speaker 4: In the day, brilliant. We'll have I have to dig
- 36:39Speaker 4: them out. I'm going to think I'm going to start
- 36:41Speaker 4: a separate channel over on Rumble because I've got so
- 36:45Speaker 4: much material now, Miles, it's unbelievable. The best stuff, when
- 36:50Speaker 4: you really know how much we're being manipulated is is
- 36:55Speaker 4: understanding the Second World War narrative. That's been absolutely eminol
- 37:00Speaker 4: I all the stuff that I thought was, you know,
- 37:04Speaker 4: taken as gospel, I now know that all came from Hollywood,
- 37:07Speaker 4: and that the true story, the massive lie that we're
- 37:11Speaker 4: laboring under of which you know, cements the whole kind
- 37:17Speaker 4: of new world order together. When you when you find
- 37:21Speaker 4: out the truth behind it, it blows your mind. But
- 37:25Speaker 4: getting back to Bill Cooper, I think obviously a guy
- 37:30Speaker 4: of this stature was going to be telling the truth
- 37:33Speaker 4: about what happened in New York and Washington twenty years ago,
- 37:37Speaker 4: and obviously he wouldn't be the first that met an
- 37:42Speaker 4: untimely end because of his his his truth telling. So
- 37:47Speaker 4: that the series called Mystery Babylon Yes that's right, Yeah, yeah,
- 37:51Speaker 4: which kind of is a euphemism for the ancient mystery
- 37:57Speaker 4: schools and the history of the kebow the occult, going
- 38:01Speaker 4: back to you know, well, going back to Babylonian times.
- 38:06Speaker 5: Yes, that's right, And of course we very much see
- 38:10Speaker 5: the sort of doctrine playing out in recent times with yeah,
- 38:15Speaker 5: the various sort of sign ups that have taken place,
- 38:17Speaker 5: whether it's say in the United States and the Genius
- 38:21Speaker 5: Act with cbdc's being banned, but then programble surveillance imbedded.
- 38:29Speaker 5: Private stable coins then allowed to be created, and in
- 38:36Speaker 5: addition to that, of course more recently with Kissed Armor's announcement,
- 38:40Speaker 5: which obviously gets everyone to focus on the element of
- 38:44Speaker 5: digital ID as something you actually kind of say yes
- 38:48Speaker 5: or no to, or you choose to download or you
- 38:50Speaker 5: choose not to. But of course that overlooks the more
- 38:57Speaker 5: the more sort of insidious process that we may regarding
- 39:01Speaker 5: one log in.
- 39:02Speaker 4: Let's talk about these stable coins, and in fact, perhaps
- 39:05Speaker 4: we can have a chat about the whole kind of
- 39:09Speaker 4: bitcoin thing. I got a little bit involved in it
- 39:12Speaker 4: miles when I realized that savings account, even ices and stuff,
- 39:16Speaker 4: you're not really making anything, certainly not what we would
- 39:21Speaker 4: have made in the eighties, well in the nineties, and
- 39:24Speaker 4: so I invested a bit in the coins in a
- 39:30Speaker 4: crypto it's referred to, isn't it cryptocurrency? And it's just
- 39:35Speaker 4: one of those things where when you made some sort
- 39:37Speaker 4: of gains, by the time you sold your coins and
- 39:40Speaker 4: transferred them back into sterling in your bank account, all
- 39:44Speaker 4: the charges and everything, it just seemed to steal all
- 39:48Speaker 4: your profit, clearly something I think you have to do
- 39:51Speaker 4: if you've got an awful lot of money. And so
- 39:54Speaker 4: it was interesting, you know, it's interesting to see that
- 39:57Speaker 4: you can put money in there and basically got seven
- 40:00Speaker 4: hundred quid in one day, and that's where I think
- 40:03Speaker 4: it all starts, probably getting a bit greedy. But as
- 40:06Speaker 4: my friend Charlie who came on the podcast, Charlie Chaplain
- 40:12Speaker 4: pointed out. He said, Chris, it's just a horse race.
- 40:14Speaker 4: You know, you might win this week, you're going to
- 40:17Speaker 4: lose the name. It's sort of like gambling. So there's that, Miles.
- 40:23Speaker 4: If you could for those people out there that sort
- 40:26Speaker 4: of know about crypto but not really familiar with it,
- 40:30Speaker 4: could you explain that? But then also, let's come onto
- 40:33Speaker 4: stable coins, because already you said something there programmable. I
- 40:38Speaker 4: wasn't even aware of that. In fact, I'm not even
- 40:40Speaker 4: really sure what they are. Although I bought one recently.
- 40:43Speaker 4: By the time I put in my fifty quid or
- 40:46Speaker 4: my fifty dollars, the value of the coin that I
- 40:50Speaker 4: was left with was sort of eight dollars. So somehow
- 40:53Speaker 4: they stripped me of forty two dollars in the process
- 40:56Speaker 4: of getting this coin, which which meant I had to
- 40:58Speaker 4: go across all these platforms to to actually buy ours.
- 41:03Speaker 4: So so complicated I did. I thought I was jumping
- 41:06Speaker 4: on a bandwagon, and you know, maybe I was going
- 41:09Speaker 4: to make some money off it. But anyway over to you, Yeah, well.
- 41:13Speaker 5: I think when it when it comes to bitcoin, the
- 41:17Speaker 5: original notion of bitcoin was really to serve as a
- 41:24Speaker 5: form of cash which actually held its value. There's there's
- 41:28Speaker 5: a very good book I read fairly recently, something like
- 41:33Speaker 5: Capturing Bitcoin something like that. I can't remember the exact
- 41:37Speaker 5: title that, but in essence, it was was comparing what
- 41:42Speaker 5: they intended bitcoin to be against what it is now,
- 41:47Speaker 5: and so it was intended to really be a form
- 41:52Speaker 5: of payment. Now this this this book does kind of
- 41:56Speaker 5: ignore the the potential sort of c i A origins
- 41:59Speaker 5: of it, which I think are also sort of valid there.
- 42:03Speaker 5: But what I also find interesting is this argument that
- 42:06Speaker 5: was made in the book about how it was intended
- 42:09Speaker 5: to be a form of digital cash, that it was
- 42:11Speaker 5: intended to offer low transactions costs, that it was intended
- 42:16Speaker 5: to be decentralized, and anyone could download their own wallet,
- 42:21Speaker 5: take ownership of their bitcoin, and then exchange on a
- 42:25Speaker 5: peer to peer mechanism, so almost like digital cash ultimately.
- 42:30Speaker 5: But now of course it's almost suffering from the same
- 42:36Speaker 5: downfalls that gold has as a currency, so as a
- 42:42Speaker 5: medium of exchange and that is that no one spends
- 42:47Speaker 5: a store of value. So it's often argued by bitcoin
- 42:51Speaker 5: proponents that it is a store of value so you
- 42:54Speaker 5: can hold it to protect yourself against inflation, that it
- 42:57Speaker 5: will always go up and so on. And the big,
- 43:00Speaker 5: big problem there is that nobody spends a store of value,
- 43:04Speaker 5: and in addition to that, it also has those high
- 43:08Speaker 5: transaction costs as well that you're alluding to a moment ago,
- 43:13Speaker 5: So you're not ultimately going to use it to go
- 43:17Speaker 5: to your local farmer and exchange fraction of the bitcoin
- 43:22Speaker 5: to actually buy some milk or something like that. And
- 43:26Speaker 5: so that's ultimately the sad reality of it. And so
- 43:31Speaker 5: while it's clearly being promoted very strongly and may well
- 43:38Speaker 5: do very very well as a result of that. And
- 43:40Speaker 5: there is a correlation between the amount of stable coins
- 43:43Speaker 5: and the price of bitcoin, so the more stable coins
- 43:46Speaker 5: that they actually produce following the Genius Act, there is
- 43:51Speaker 5: the potential for longer term growth for the price of bitcoin.
- 43:56Speaker 5: But yeah, you're therefore not going to actually spend it
- 44:00Speaker 5: on you and that's that's a big, big problem.
- 44:02Speaker 4: And the other another aspect is you've got to know
- 44:06Speaker 4: what you're doing. You've got to look at it five
- 44:09Speaker 4: times a day, or you've got to certainly keep up
- 44:12Speaker 4: with a little graphy thing. How much is my money
- 44:15Speaker 4: worth it? Oh god, it's just dropped three hundred quid overnight?
- 44:18Speaker 4: Should I sell? Do I hang in there? Could it
- 44:21Speaker 4: just go right back to what it was. I'm not
- 44:25Speaker 4: talking about bitcoin because that tends to hold its price,
- 44:27Speaker 4: but you know, some of the other coins. Gosh, if
- 44:29Speaker 4: it crashes again like it did three years ago, I've
- 44:33Speaker 4: literally lost three thousand pounds in a week, et cetera,
- 44:37Speaker 4: et cetera. And for people with busy lives and not
- 44:41Speaker 4: you know, who don't have enough understanding of it, it's
- 44:46Speaker 4: it's kind of a you know, it's.
- 44:50Speaker 5: Also interesting in the argument that it's helped to actually
- 44:55Speaker 5: reduce some of the price pressure on gold as well,
- 45:00Speaker 5: and I think there's there's merit to that argument too.
- 45:04Speaker 5: So you know, if you are going to hold it,
- 45:08Speaker 5: you've got to be prepared to actually accept that volatility.
- 45:12Speaker 5: And yeah, longer term it may well do well, because
- 45:17Speaker 5: as I said, you know, I do think it is
- 45:19Speaker 5: being promoted very, very heavily, but I don't think sadly
- 45:24Speaker 5: that it's our pathway towards freedom, because you've also then
- 45:29Speaker 5: got to sell your bitcoin. What are you selling your bitcoin?
- 45:32Speaker 2: Four?
- 45:33Speaker 5: Well, the intention is that you'll be selling your bitcoin
- 45:37Speaker 5: for a gated environment. That is, are you stable coins
- 45:42Speaker 5: or CBDCs or as they're also referring to them, tokenized
- 45:47Speaker 5: Stirling deposits. But ultimately it's a sound reflection of the
- 45:52Speaker 5: whole monetary environment and that we are facing what's known
- 45:55Speaker 5: as financial repression, where inflation and that is the real
- 46:00Speaker 5: inflation rate, not you know, the kind of pretend figures
- 46:03Speaker 5: that were given. It's far far greater than the interest
- 46:08Speaker 5: rate available. So ultimately your money should be a store
- 46:13Speaker 5: of value, but sadly it's it's not, yes, and so
- 46:16Speaker 5: that encourages speculation.
- 46:18Speaker 4: I wanted to come back to the mystery Babylon stuff
- 46:21Speaker 4: because I'm aware that we just sort of skirted that,
- 46:23Speaker 4: and I think people will will find a lot of
- 46:26Speaker 4: this stuff interesting, especially the kind of bloodline stuff. But
- 46:30Speaker 4: the stable coins, you said something about them being what
- 46:34Speaker 4: are they they just seem Is it the same as
- 46:37Speaker 4: a mean coin or is that something completely different?
- 46:40Speaker 2: Yeah, that's different.
- 46:42Speaker 5: So stable coin is is really kind of developed on
- 46:46Speaker 5: the principle of that it's going to offer stability. And
- 46:51Speaker 5: what is the stability that it's therefore backed by it. Well,
- 46:55Speaker 5: it's in the case of things like tether or USDC,
- 47:02Speaker 5: it is US.
- 47:04Speaker 2: Short term government debt.
- 47:07Speaker 5: Now, Tether is an unregulated stable coin, so it also
- 47:11Speaker 5: has other collateral allegedly backing it, and so that includes gold,
- 47:16Speaker 5: that also includes yeah, cash deposits and bitcoin as well.
- 47:24Speaker 5: So the idea is that it then holds parity to
- 47:28Speaker 5: the US dollar. Now, what I find very interesting though
- 47:32Speaker 5: about the notion of stable coins is that what you
- 47:36Speaker 5: are inadvertently doing is then you are holding a government
- 47:42Speaker 5: debt by proxy. So you didn't necessarily want to buy
- 47:46Speaker 5: government debt, but because you're then holding a stable coin,
- 47:51Speaker 5: you deposit your money with that provider. They then create
- 47:54Speaker 5: the coin and with your money, they have now bought
- 47:58Speaker 5: that government debt. What that means is that they collect
- 48:02Speaker 5: the yield the interest on that government debt. But you
- 48:06Speaker 5: now have the risk of what's known as duration risk,
- 48:11Speaker 5: which is where the value of the government debt asset falls.
- 48:16Speaker 2: If that makes sense.
- 48:17Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the problem with all of this.
- 48:20Speaker 5: It is.
- 48:23Speaker 4: Lay people is you've lost me totally, which is not
- 48:27Speaker 4: your doing that's that's because we've all had our Yeah,
- 48:30Speaker 4: it's a lot to take in, isn't it.
- 48:32Speaker 5: It is, And that's deliberately so that ultimately what's happening
- 48:38Speaker 5: there is that they are passing off government debt onto
- 48:42Speaker 5: the public who are not ultimately aware of what they're holding.
- 48:46Speaker 5: So they may feel that they've got a dollar and
- 48:48Speaker 5: they're told it's stable, but that stability depends upon the
- 48:54Speaker 5: value of the government.
- 48:55Speaker 4: Debt, right, Okay, So it's it's kind of inextricably linked.
- 49:00Speaker 5: Yes, And they've been doing this sort of thing for
- 49:02Speaker 5: a long long time. The first real stable coin that
- 49:06Speaker 5: was introduced was introduced in the seventeenth century via the
- 49:09Speaker 5: Bank of Amsterdam, which you can really consider to be
- 49:13Speaker 5: the first central bank that ever existed, which I've done
- 49:17Speaker 5: a video on on my channel there if anyone's interested
- 49:20Speaker 5: in that. And interestingly, Chris, the last couple of years,
- 49:26Speaker 5: the Bank for International Settlements has written a couple of
- 49:29Speaker 5: papers about the Bank of Amsterdam and it's stable coin
- 49:33Speaker 5: and why ultimately it failed, and ultimately it was designed
- 49:37Speaker 5: to fail much in the same way as these stable coins.
- 49:41Speaker 5: But you know what else happened on the same day
- 49:44Speaker 5: that Kirs Starmer came out with his Digital Idea announcement
- 49:49Speaker 5: in the City of London. The Bank of England and
- 49:53Speaker 5: the UK's top six banks started a new monetary pilot
- 49:58Speaker 5: with token I Sterling deposits.
- 50:03Speaker 4: Go on the Bank of England, you say, yes, And
- 50:07Speaker 4: so this.
- 50:07Speaker 5: Is alongside Lloyd's, HSBC, SANT and der nationwide.
- 50:14Speaker 4: Yeah, so they're trying. Is this then, trying to initiate
- 50:18Speaker 4: what we know as the kind of see central banking
- 50:22Speaker 4: digital currency that's going to come and control us all.
- 50:24Speaker 5: Yes, And so that happened on the same day or
- 50:28Speaker 5: that pilot started on the same day that Kissed Armer
- 50:32Speaker 5: made his announcement, twenty sixth of September.
- 50:35Speaker 4: I think it was what was his announcement? Sorry?
- 50:37Speaker 5: That so the pilot, oh sorry kissed Armors.
- 50:41Speaker 4: Oh the Digital Idea announcement.
- 50:43Speaker 2: Yes, correct, which of course stole all the headlines.
- 50:46Speaker 4: Yes, of course.
- 50:48Speaker 5: If you look up token ized sterling deposits, I can't
- 50:52Speaker 5: find any mainstream media articles on that, and I find
- 50:58Speaker 5: that absolutely fascinating. And so what is a token ized
- 51:03Speaker 5: sterling deposit? Well, in essence, if you deposit one thousand
- 51:08Speaker 5: pounds currently, the bank will update its ledger and say
- 51:14Speaker 5: you've got a thousand pounds, but when you have a
- 51:18Speaker 5: tokenized Sterling deposit, you put in one thousand pounds and
- 51:22Speaker 5: the bank creates one thousand pounds of tokens which are
- 51:26Speaker 5: used on a separate ledger. And so all of those
- 51:30Speaker 5: six banks all have the same ledger and that is
- 51:34Speaker 5: overseen by the Bank of England. And so what that
- 51:37Speaker 5: would then mean is that if you're transferring money from
- 51:41Speaker 5: one bank to another bank right now, it can take
- 51:44Speaker 5: a bit of time. It can take hours, or it
- 51:46Speaker 5: can take days sometimes, but when it takes place on
- 51:50Speaker 5: one ledger then it can happen instantly. But these tokens,
- 51:55Speaker 5: of course are programmable and they will be linked to
- 52:00Speaker 5: a digital IDs.
- 52:02Speaker 4: Yes, and so sorry to interrupt myles, but just so
- 52:07Speaker 4: I can get my head around this. Yeah.
- 52:08Speaker 2: Sorry.
- 52:09Speaker 4: Also, we're talking blockchain, aren't we, So it's your every
- 52:14Speaker 4: movement is not just accounted for, but it's ledgered in
- 52:19Speaker 4: a blockchain for life. So if I don't know, maybe
- 52:24Speaker 4: you buy something on the dark web that's legal, I
- 52:28Speaker 4: don't know, I'm just silly. Example, maybe it's legal at
- 52:31Speaker 4: the moment, but next year it becomes highly frowned upon
- 52:36Speaker 4: there's implications there isn't there.
- 52:38Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, that's right, So all of your purchases within
- 52:43Speaker 5: that system will be held on the blockchain permanently, yes,
- 52:47Speaker 5: and so yes, it's it's highly profound really, and that
- 52:51Speaker 5: the key technology infrastructure there is that distributed ledger technology.
- 52:57Speaker 5: And so it's not an individual ledger. So it's not
- 53:01Speaker 5: the Santander ledger, it's not the Lloyd's Bank ledger. It
- 53:05Speaker 5: is one single ledger held between all of the banks
- 53:11Speaker 5: and overseen by the central Bank itself. And this is
- 53:18Speaker 5: driven via the BIS as well, a Bank for International
- 53:21Speaker 5: Settlements and their vision of the next monetary and financial system.
- 53:29Speaker 5: But really it's ultimately CBDC by another name. And so
- 53:34Speaker 5: this is already happening in the UK, and so it's
- 53:37Speaker 5: really important I think that people are aware of that
- 53:41Speaker 5: and what is taking place there now.
- 53:44Speaker 4: Our friends out there listening, a lot of them won't
- 53:46Speaker 4: be aware if there anything like I was sort of
- 53:49Speaker 4: twenty years ago. They won't be aware that these central
- 53:53Speaker 4: banks are actually private companies. So when you hear the
- 53:56Speaker 4: term Bank of England, you think that it's some benevolent
- 53:59Speaker 4: organization run by some old codgers. You know that are
- 54:03Speaker 4: in there with their little glasses on counting their coins,
- 54:07Speaker 4: and whereas in actual fact, no, the Jeckal Island situation
- 54:11Speaker 4: in America, was it not? Where they all the leading
- 54:15Speaker 4: financial families they had a secret meeting on a place
- 54:19Speaker 4: called Jeckel Island, if I've got this right, and feel
- 54:22Speaker 4: free to correct me, Moles, and they hid behind a
- 54:27Speaker 4: headline in the news that kind of distracted everyone, and
- 54:30Speaker 4: they traveled to this island under false, false names, and
- 54:34Speaker 4: where they had a meeting where it was signed in
- 54:37Speaker 4: that these private families would from now on control the
- 54:41Speaker 4: wealth of initially obviously the United States. So yes, over
- 54:49Speaker 4: over to you.
- 54:50Speaker 5: Yes, I'm just looking for it here, Chris, But I
- 54:53Speaker 5: can't remember the name of the clause. But essentially very
- 54:59Speaker 5: much seems that the Bank of England is held via
- 55:03Speaker 5: a reverse takeover. And yes, so it claims to be public,
- 55:10Speaker 5: but there is actually a limited company which appears to.
- 55:15Speaker 2: Actually yeah, here we go.
- 55:20Speaker 5: So sixth of April nineteen seventy four, Bank of England
- 55:24Speaker 5: established the Bank of England Nominees Limited Company registration number
- 55:29Speaker 5: one three zero seven four seven eight, a wholly owned
- 55:33Speaker 5: subsidiary with private shareholders holding its one hundred and one
- 55:37Speaker 5: pound shares, of which fifty percent were sold. So yeah,
- 55:44Speaker 5: widely suspected that this actually reflects a reverse takeover via
- 55:51Speaker 5: these private shareholders. And in addition to that, in view
- 55:56Speaker 5: of the fact that certain aspects of the Bank of
- 55:58Speaker 5: England's operations are detected by its Royal Charter, Section twenty
- 56:02Speaker 5: seventy nine of the Company's Act of nineteen seventy six
- 56:06Speaker 5: and the Official Secrets Act of nineteen eighty nine, they're
- 56:10Speaker 5: therefore not subject to public and parliamentary scrutiny. Yeah, so yeah,
- 56:16Speaker 5: I think I think you're absolutely right.
- 56:21Speaker 4: Yes, So it's the Jackal Island felt. I just got
- 56:25Speaker 4: up a quick synopsis of it there. Obviously, folks, if
- 56:30Speaker 4: you're using search engines like Google and AI, they have
- 56:35Speaker 4: a bias programmed into them. So it's quite interesting to
- 56:39Speaker 4: see what Google says on the subject, because then you
- 56:42Speaker 4: know it's probably the complete, complete opposite. It's called building
- 56:46Speaker 4: up your critical awareness, I think let's call it. And
- 56:50Speaker 4: so they're saying here that the motivation behind the US
- 56:55Speaker 4: Federal Reserve and this secret meeting in nineteen ten on
- 56:59Speaker 4: Jet Island was that the participants of this meeting were
- 57:04Speaker 4: concerned about the recurring financial panics and economic disruptions that
- 57:09Speaker 4: plagued the nation in the nineteenth century. When you now
- 57:13Speaker 4: know how they operate, you can see that. No, this
- 57:17Speaker 4: was then suggesting that handing it, if you let the
- 57:21Speaker 4: poacher become the gamekeeper, it's some are going to be
- 57:25Speaker 4: in the interest of the chickens or the pheasants or
- 57:29Speaker 4: some other analogy.
- 57:31Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so true, and they often use that. The
- 57:34Speaker 5: argument of volatility is the need for having a backstop.
- 57:38Speaker 5: And yeah, so just going back briefly to those stable coins,
- 57:43Speaker 5: Chris as well, the stable coins themselves don't have a
- 57:47Speaker 5: direct backstop because if your money is in a bank
- 57:52Speaker 5: account and your money is actually receives deposit insurance in
- 57:58Speaker 5: the UK, it's what eighty pounds, and so the Bank
- 58:02Speaker 5: of England can always perform its lender of lost resort
- 58:06Speaker 5: role as well to bail out any banks. Now that's
- 58:10Speaker 5: not to say that wouldn't be enormous currency depreciation.
- 58:14Speaker 2: If they had to do so, but.
- 58:16Speaker 5: Yeah, it's something that isn't.
- 58:20Speaker 2: There when it comes to the stable coins themselves.
- 58:22Speaker 4: And just a very quick one for you, premium bonds.
- 58:27Speaker 4: I've just put some money into premium but it makes
- 58:31Speaker 4: it sound like I've got loads of money. I honestly
- 58:33Speaker 4: I haven't. But what I thought I would do with
- 58:36Speaker 4: some of the money I've saved up from my Mount
- 58:39Speaker 4: Everest summer in April, rather than just have it sat
- 58:42Speaker 4: in a bank getting zero interest. I noticed that one
- 58:46Speaker 4: of my family members who'd put I think they put
- 58:49Speaker 4: ten grand into premium bonds that they kind of win
- 58:52Speaker 4: almost every week. And when I saw that some of
- 58:55Speaker 4: the prizes can be up to fifty pounds, I thought, hey, ho,
- 58:59Speaker 4: you know, you've only got to win the odd odd
- 59:01Speaker 4: fifty quid here and there to get to be well
- 59:04Speaker 4: up on the interest you'd get keeping it in the bank.
- 59:07Speaker 4: Do we have any thoughts on premium bonds?
- 59:11Speaker 5: So obviously premium bonds are buying into government debt and
- 59:17Speaker 5: that market as well. So I suppose from a sort
- 59:21Speaker 5: of ethical standpoint, you are sort of financing the government
- 59:25Speaker 5: by that sort of extension.
- 59:29Speaker 2: I think. I think it just varies.
- 59:31Speaker 5: Chris, you know, you know it'd be interesting to see
- 59:34Speaker 5: what your friend there is actually kind of made in
- 59:36Speaker 5: percentage terms. But some people can win, but of course
- 59:41Speaker 5: the system is designed so that the actual profit lies
- 59:48Speaker 5: with them rather than rather than with the average investor.
- 59:53Speaker 5: So it's that rigged system once again.
- 59:57Speaker 4: So let's come on then, I know what I said.
- 1:00:01Speaker 4: We said we were going to talk about the Mystery Babylon,
- 1:00:03Speaker 4: but I think before before, let's just let's bring it
- 1:00:06Speaker 4: back to basics. You and I were having a chat
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: before we started recording, and I was saying the reason
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: I stick to a really simple system, and it's it's
- 1:00:17Speaker 4: become a cliche in that thing where if you're on
- 1:00:20Speaker 4: an aeroplane and it's going down and the oxygen masks
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: pop out, who do you worry about? First? You run
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: around making sure the pilot's got his or the stewardess
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: has got hers, or the person over there in the ale,
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: you know, you make sure you're wearing you know, your
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: all finger point at everybody? Or do you actually take
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: care of your own welfare first? And by that, I
- 1:00:42Speaker 4: don't mean that in a selfish, egotistical way. I mean
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: that the work that I've had to do miles to
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: come from chronic drug addiction, which has been my life,
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: you know, in all honesty, drugs, alcoholism, and that I
- 1:01:01Speaker 4: have to keep consistently doing on a regular basis, which
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: is involved really looking within, studying every single thing that
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: I can, which is why I'm really really hot on
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: the decode that we can get from the scriptures, because
- 1:01:20Speaker 4: you know, none of this stuff is new. Saving yourself
- 1:01:23Speaker 4: is not new. Very clever men thousands of years ago
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: realize that people like me would come along and we'd
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: struggle because of our specific bio social chemical makeup, that
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: we'd struggle in life, and they've left behind this wonderful
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: code hidden in allegory in scripture that once you crack it,
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: you're like, ah, I get it now. It's so simple
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: what I've got to do, all the answers within. I've
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: just got to do this, this, and this on a
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: consistent basis, and my life will go up and I'll
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: avoid depression, I'll avoid anxiety. I'll avoid getting tied into
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: hatred and bitterness and finger pointing and victim mode and
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: all of this stuff that obviously I never used to understand.
- 1:02:08Speaker 4: And as a result, Mars, it's I can never leave
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: paradise now. And I'm not saying that I know people listening,
- 1:02:17Speaker 4: that's a vague concept to quantify that I can never
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: now for the rest of my life not wake up
- 1:02:25Speaker 4: and realize this is a gift. It's utterly incredible. I'm
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: so lucky that this manifestation of the divine which we
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: all are. You said earlier, Mars, you know we are
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: all one, We're all the universe experiencing itself subconsciously, and
- 1:02:44Speaker 4: that despite all the shenanigans going on, I am not
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: letting them with their ken trails and their money Babylonian money, magic,
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: and their their their voody there that's their shit. You know,
- 1:03:00Speaker 4: I'm not letting that affect my time in this set
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: of molecules experiencing this incredible thing called life. And I
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: am grateful every day to be here. If I was
- 1:03:11Speaker 4: a slave, which you know we all are to a
- 1:03:14Speaker 4: certain degree, I'm still grateful to that. I'm I get
- 1:03:17Speaker 4: to experience this amazing thing. And what the heck, Look,
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: that's energy vibration frequency doesn't actually exist. How amazing is that?
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: You know?
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: My son gave me that mug. That's why I'm showing
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: it off.
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: That's true, Chris.
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: And here's the thing, you know, I just wondered if
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: we could have a bit of this conversation. I found
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: the secret is so it's so simple when it's condensed
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: and someone else tells you it. It took me thirty
- 1:03:45Speaker 4: five years of being off my head every day, you know,
- 1:03:49Speaker 4: all the upheval miles that comes with that lifestyle in geez,
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: you know. And when we're talking now, I'm just thinking
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: some of the concepts we're talking about. I always put
- 1:04:00Speaker 4: myself down. I think that I don't really get this
- 1:04:03Speaker 4: or this is but blooming out. I mean I understand
- 1:04:06Speaker 4: the financial system in essences. That's way more than I
- 1:04:11Speaker 4: did twenty years ago. I totally understand diet and the
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: effects that you know, things have on your body, which
- 1:04:17Speaker 4: is I'm always telling people before you go start talking
- 1:04:20Speaker 4: about central banking, digital currency, digital ID. What Star has
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: had for is we've stopped that work out your pH
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: This is what's going to put you in paradise and
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: save your life and be a better person for your kids.
- 1:04:34Speaker 4: It's so simple that cost these costs two ninety nine
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: on eBay. Anybody can do it. Most won't because it requires,
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: you know, taking action, and that's the subject for another day. Incidentally, folks,
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: that and the Supergreens. If you never, ever, in my experience,
- 1:04:51Speaker 4: ever want to be ill again, get on the Supergreens,
- 1:04:54Speaker 4: learn what your body's alkalinity. There's a link below in
- 1:04:57Speaker 4: the description box. I'm a one man banfolks, so i
- 1:05:01Speaker 4: have to promote myself because I've got bills to pay,
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: just like you have, and I can't live for free
- 1:05:07Speaker 4: and do these videos which take about eight hours of
- 1:05:12Speaker 4: my time of day. So I might, I'm trying to say,
- 1:05:15Speaker 4: I might make a little commission if you, if you
- 1:05:18Speaker 4: buy some of them. But myles, getting back on point,
- 1:05:22Speaker 4: we're in an interesting situation. I get the as above
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: so below as it's referred to a mystery Babylon. I
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: get that there's a spiritual battle going on here. It's
- 1:05:33Speaker 4: an energy, vibration and frequency battle, and that we all
- 1:05:37Speaker 4: have a choice when we wake up in the morning.
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: We can go the side of good, which we've given
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: the clever name of God, or we can go the
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: side of evil, which we've given the clever name of devil. Devil.
- 1:05:50Speaker 4: And that can be as simple as me deciding to
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: smile when I go out at the front door, or
- 1:05:55Speaker 4: me being miserable and the pointy head guy with a
- 1:05:59Speaker 4: you know, the guy with a pointy tail wins. And
- 1:06:03Speaker 4: that's why I talk about it a lot, not everybody
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: gets it, Miles, I get a lot of bit Oh yeah,
- 1:06:08Speaker 4: but I was going to take down Kirstar. I'm like, well,
- 1:06:11Speaker 4: you know, I'm not saying whether it will or not,
- 1:06:14Speaker 4: but what I'm saying is you're clearly miserable and unhappy
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: and angry, angry enough to be attacking, attacking complete strangers
- 1:06:21Speaker 4: on the internet. Perhaps if you started to do a
- 1:06:23Speaker 4: bit of what I did, then you wake up in
- 1:06:26Speaker 4: paradise and you'll see life a in a not just
- 1:06:30Speaker 4: a different way, and you'll be happier, but you'll see
- 1:06:33Speaker 4: how this cabal is controlling your every frequency and vibration pration,
- 1:06:40Speaker 4: and then you can say start saying saying no to stuff.
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: And you said something earlier, Miles about you know, doing
- 1:06:48Speaker 4: the hard things. You know it's worth doing the hard things,
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: And I kind of batted that back a bit, didn't
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: I said, Yeah, the hard things which become easier, and
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: then realize that you get your life back. You know,
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: giving up sugar means you've got no inflammation in your body.
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: It's definitely a good thing to do. It is a
- 1:07:07Speaker 4: little bit of a sacrifice, or let's just call it
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: cutting down your sugar. So am I making any sense
- 1:07:13Speaker 4: at all. I'm not really trying to get to a point.
- 1:07:16Speaker 4: I just think there's a that there's a lot of
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: people will be listening mars to our chat and they'll
- 1:07:22Speaker 4: be a bit frustrated because what can they do. They're
- 1:07:26Speaker 4: talking about CBDs and digital and it is just the
- 1:07:29Speaker 4: Bank Central Bang and Federal Reserve and money and intro help. Well,
- 1:07:36Speaker 4: I don't understand any and I'm saying you don't have to,
- 1:07:39Speaker 4: because it starts with you. And you can jog around
- 1:07:41Speaker 4: the block in the morning, easy, can make your bed.
- 1:07:44Speaker 4: You can check your alkalinity and make sure you're not
- 1:07:46Speaker 4: feeding the big pharmaceutical scam by never ever getting ill
- 1:07:50Speaker 4: ever again. In your life. You can understand scriptures so
- 1:07:54Speaker 4: you never have to be depressed or anxious ever again.
- 1:07:56Speaker 4: You become a much better parent and a much better
- 1:07:58Speaker 4: friend who realized is that life is only about being
- 1:08:02Speaker 4: in service to others. That's it. And if you're not
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: in service to others, you're gonna suffer because that's just
- 1:08:08Speaker 4: how it works. So sorry, Myles, I asked you a
- 1:08:12Speaker 4: question and I talked over you, but that that was
- 1:08:16Speaker 4: the first part. Is that making a bit of sense?
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:08:19Speaker 5: No, I absolutely hear you. I think I think you
- 1:08:22Speaker 5: spot on Chris. You know, it's it's said that with
- 1:08:26Speaker 5: addition your your ego grows, but with subtraction, your soul grows.
- 1:08:33Speaker 5: And I think there's there's much truth to that. So
- 1:08:37Speaker 5: recently someone was saying, oh, what we actually need is
- 1:08:41Speaker 5: an involution rather than a revolution, where people actually just
- 1:08:46Speaker 5: reassess themselves and actually consider what's truly going to make
- 1:08:51Speaker 5: themselves happy. But I think, yes, we do need to
- 1:08:55Speaker 5: start actually making some little sacrifice and that they don't
- 1:09:01Speaker 5: need to be large to do what we can to
- 1:09:05Speaker 5: actually reduce dependence on the system. And so obviously we
- 1:09:10Speaker 5: were talking about banking and so on, and when it
- 1:09:14Speaker 5: comes to stable coins and the notion of these token
- 1:09:17Speaker 5: ized sterling deposits, well, if they want to actually convert
- 1:09:22Speaker 5: our bank deposits into government debt, well therefore we should
- 1:09:26Speaker 5: actually deprive the banking system of our money. You know,
- 1:09:29Speaker 5: can you actually use some of your savings to actually
- 1:09:34Speaker 5: possibly buy a little bit of land on which you
- 1:09:36Speaker 5: can grow some vegetables or keep chickens, or you know,
- 1:09:41Speaker 5: little things that you can actually do and while you
- 1:09:44Speaker 5: may not be able to do that, can you afford
- 1:09:45Speaker 5: to actually buy a silver coin, so you can actually
- 1:09:50Speaker 5: start to actually make little changes that actually just reduce
- 1:09:55Speaker 5: our overall reliance. And we were talking earlier about just
- 1:09:59Speaker 5: something as simple as BlackBerry picking, So it means you're
- 1:10:01Speaker 5: not paying three ninety nine for organic blueberries, you know,
- 1:10:05Speaker 5: for like one hundred grams of blueberries from the supermarket. Like,
- 1:10:10Speaker 5: just something as simple as that means that you aren't
- 1:10:14Speaker 5: just passively transferring your power and your energy over to
- 1:10:20Speaker 5: these big corporates who don't have our best interests at
- 1:10:23Speaker 5: hand there. But I think we also need a real
- 1:10:27Speaker 5: bit of self love there as well, for people to
- 1:10:30Speaker 5: actually say, right, am I actually prepared to do this
- 1:10:33Speaker 5: hour and a half commute each morning? Is this really
- 1:10:36Speaker 5: what I want? Or do I actually want to shake
- 1:10:39Speaker 5: things up and look at my life differently? And of
- 1:10:44Speaker 5: course these are tough steps to make. They're really really
- 1:10:48Speaker 5: hard things to do, but you can, as I said,
- 1:10:50Speaker 5: just start off with smaller decisions and just see where
- 1:10:54Speaker 5: that leads you, because you'll find that your skills and
- 1:10:58Speaker 5: your knowledge base then grow in areas that you can then,
- 1:11:02Speaker 5: as you said, offer service to others. It could be
- 1:11:05Speaker 5: that you undertake I don't know a carpentry course or
- 1:11:08Speaker 5: something like that, and you actually start to develop skills
- 1:11:13Speaker 5: that you can offer to others, or that you can
- 1:11:16Speaker 5: use to keep animals or whatever it may be.
- 1:11:20Speaker 4: Absolutely on that note, Myles, I hope you don't mind.
- 1:11:23Speaker 4: I'm just going to give a shout out on that
- 1:11:25Speaker 4: exact same vein. Friends. If you're getting to that stage
- 1:11:29Speaker 4: of live, middle life, middle aged, whatever it might be,
- 1:11:32Speaker 4: and you're thinking that you've missed out, remember what I say,
- 1:11:36Speaker 4: past doesn't past doesn't exist. You haven't missed out on anything.
- 1:11:40Speaker 4: Your life starts today, as does mine, as does Miles.
- 1:11:44Speaker 4: And if you want to get a bit of a
- 1:11:46Speaker 4: taste of adventure, perhaps those of you that missed that
- 1:11:49Speaker 4: didn't join the Miliatary and you think you're missing out
- 1:11:52Speaker 4: on something, I keep telling you you're not. But I
- 1:11:55Speaker 4: know it's hard to get this concept across to another
- 1:11:59Speaker 4: in individual, but there you go. I'm taking a team
- 1:12:03Speaker 4: of novices to the Arctic Circle in the first week
- 1:12:07Speaker 4: of March. If you want to come, you want to
- 1:12:10Speaker 4: get trained up on a pair of skis, trained in
- 1:12:13Speaker 4: arctic survival, to understand a little bit of what us
- 1:12:17Speaker 4: guys that went up there for our military training do.
- 1:12:20Speaker 4: We'll be staying in this beautiful adventure center up there,
- 1:12:25Speaker 4: having saunas every night, wonderful food. I'll be with my
- 1:12:29Speaker 4: two fellow former Rum Marine Commando training team, who all
- 1:12:35Speaker 4: of us are experts in the outdoors or certainly certain
- 1:12:41Speaker 4: parts of the outdoors, and we're all kind of life
- 1:12:44Speaker 4: coaches as well. We're going to go up there for
- 1:12:47Speaker 4: a bit of bonding, a bit of fun, lots of smiles,
- 1:12:51Speaker 4: and basically we want to come back feeling much happier,
- 1:12:56Speaker 4: much happier and more balanced people. If you're in interested
- 1:13:00Speaker 4: in that, send me an email. My email is in
- 1:13:03Speaker 4: the information box on YouTube, or just go to my
- 1:13:07Speaker 4: website there it is look Chris Rule dot com and
- 1:13:11Speaker 4: we would love to love to chat to you. The
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: other thing I was going to say is thank you
- 1:13:17Speaker 4: massively to everybody that's chipped in five pounds for my
- 1:13:22Speaker 4: upcoming Mount Everest summit. I want to summit Mount Everest
- 1:13:27Speaker 4: to shine a light for struggling veterans friends and to
- 1:13:32Speaker 4: make the link between adverse childhood's experiences, so childhood abuse
- 1:13:39Speaker 4: basically in trauma and adult mental health, because in the
- 1:13:44Speaker 4: veterans community, we're losing a lot of for the most
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: part blokes. The occasional female taking their own life as well,
- 1:13:52Speaker 4: but predominantly it's blokes, and nobody is talking about this
- 1:13:59Speaker 4: link helping people to understand why it is that those
- 1:14:03Speaker 4: of us that served very often can leave the military
- 1:14:07Speaker 4: and then experience this horrific downfall, one that left me
- 1:14:13Speaker 4: homeless and chronically mentally unwell on the streets of Hong Kong.
- 1:14:20Speaker 4: I also want to say to people out there who
- 1:14:22Speaker 4: are struggling, not just veterans, but there is always light
- 1:14:27Speaker 4: at the end of the tunnel. If you're struggling, think
- 1:14:30Speaker 4: of it that God has chosen that you deserve better
- 1:14:33Speaker 4: in your life, and He's put you to the test.
- 1:14:36Speaker 4: And once you learn the simple concepts like the past
- 1:14:40Speaker 4: doesn't exist, so we learn from it, we forgive ourselves
- 1:14:44Speaker 4: and we move on that we become grateful for this experience,
- 1:14:48Speaker 4: and we take action. Then you can see significant change,
- 1:14:53Speaker 4: and you'll look back at your life in a year's time,
- 1:14:56Speaker 4: certainly five years time, and go, gosh, I can't believe
- 1:15:00Speaker 4: I was so close to taking myself out of the game.
- 1:15:03Speaker 4: Then I came across this guy called Chris on YouTube
- 1:15:06Speaker 4: and it all started to make sense. That's why I'm
- 1:15:10Speaker 4: doing it. Friends, Okay, I'm not asking you to give
- 1:15:12Speaker 4: me one thousand pounds five hundred this look this come
- 1:15:17Speaker 4: through the door Global Disability Inclusion. Oh please give ninety
- 1:15:23Speaker 4: five pounds to save site. Yeah sure, because everyone's just
- 1:15:27Speaker 4: going to give ninety five pounds for you know, I'm
- 1:15:30Speaker 4: not saying that. I'm just saying bungus aviver. There you go.
- 1:15:33Speaker 4: I'll also be supporting a PTSD retreat down in Cornwall.
- 1:15:39Speaker 4: If you don't want to fund me for five quick, folks,
- 1:15:42Speaker 4: Absolutely not a problem. Guess what. You don't have to
- 1:15:46Speaker 4: message me and tell me I'm not. I'm here to
- 1:15:50Speaker 4: save lives and to shine a light for my buddies
- 1:15:53Speaker 4: out there that are where where I am. I'm not
- 1:15:56Speaker 4: interested in other people's negative and thank you to everyone
- 1:16:02Speaker 4: that has supported me, Myles. Where does that leave us?
- 1:16:05Speaker 4: Sten what they wanted to come on to. You're clearly
- 1:16:09Speaker 4: a knowledgeable, educated guy who, like I like to think
- 1:16:14Speaker 4: I am, has put the time in because you know
- 1:16:16Speaker 4: that as a human race, we deserve better and that
- 1:16:19Speaker 4: we're getting scammed. We're getting scammed. I believe by it's
- 1:16:23Speaker 4: as keabal of the merchants who've done this consistently over
- 1:16:26Speaker 4: the years since they learned to take control of the
- 1:16:29Speaker 4: money supplied ago folks. Babylonian woe again. And they've got
- 1:16:36Speaker 4: their influence in every single office and position of power globally.
- 1:16:41Speaker 4: They have the Nudge Unit, the Tavistock Institute, the Fabian
- 1:16:46Speaker 4: Society in this country. America's got its equivalent. They've got
- 1:16:51Speaker 4: the CIA or the the you know, the Mossad, the
- 1:16:54Speaker 4: Six all the intelligence agencies which on the on the
- 1:16:57Speaker 4: outside look like they're for the benevolence of the country,
- 1:17:01Speaker 4: but clearly there's a dark thread running through them that
- 1:17:04Speaker 4: links into let's just say, global events when things go bang,
- 1:17:08Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. That's in addition to
- 1:17:15Speaker 4: some of the big benevolent institutes like the Tony Blair
- 1:17:20Speaker 4: Institute and Bill Gates, etc. That all profess that they're
- 1:17:24Speaker 4: here to save us. What sorry, what I should get
- 1:17:28Speaker 4: to Miles is there's people like, you know, we're all
- 1:17:31Speaker 4: kind of getting aware of all this now. There's people
- 1:17:35Speaker 4: like Graham Moore, who's incredibly knowledgeable on English constitutional law
- 1:17:39Speaker 4: and how we're all being screwed that way, and how
- 1:17:42Speaker 4: we lost our sovereignty, sovereignty as individuals by giving ourselves
- 1:17:47Speaker 4: out to Great Britain instead of being English under English
- 1:17:52Speaker 4: common law, which is based on God's law, so moral
- 1:17:57Speaker 4: law basically. And is there a way that all of
- 1:18:02Speaker 4: you wonderful people could come together to start an organization?
- 1:18:07Speaker 4: It would have to be ego lists or understand ego
- 1:18:12Speaker 4: because when I founded the Global Veterans Alliance, that was
- 1:18:16Speaker 4: a big issue. Everyone was all over the place. Some
- 1:18:19Speaker 4: people didn't even know what spirituality was. They thought it
- 1:18:23Speaker 4: was about like going to church and stuff. Other people
- 1:18:26Speaker 4: totally totally got it. Some got it to the point
- 1:18:29Speaker 4: where they're like, I don't need to go to London
- 1:18:31Speaker 4: and March. I'm completely zen where I am. And I
- 1:18:37Speaker 4: just feel that now is the time, Miles, that there's
- 1:18:42Speaker 4: enough people now that are awake and aware to all
- 1:18:45Speaker 4: this that also are starting to get the spiritual element
- 1:18:49Speaker 4: that we're being controlled by the energy, the vibration and
- 1:18:52Speaker 4: the frequency. And I see people will watch this podcast
- 1:18:56Speaker 4: and they'll be like, Chris, I just don't kind of
- 1:18:58Speaker 4: get what you guys are saying. But I get that
- 1:19:00Speaker 4: there's a problem. I don't know what to do that
- 1:19:03Speaker 4: You've got guests on telling me not to pay my
- 1:19:05Speaker 4: community to meet meet counsel tax. But then this guy's
- 1:19:09Speaker 4: just gone to prison for not help us out in Mars.
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: Well, I think.
- 1:19:16Speaker 5: We're in a crisis, and of course we all know
- 1:19:22Speaker 5: that that means danger and opportunity. So yeah, we can
- 1:19:28Speaker 5: focus on the danger, or we could focus on the opportunity.
- 1:19:32Speaker 5: So we of course need to be aware of the
- 1:19:36Speaker 5: dangers that we actually face and the troubles that they
- 1:19:40Speaker 5: can potentially bring, but we also need to put more
- 1:19:44Speaker 5: time and effort into the opportunities that are actually there
- 1:19:49Speaker 5: and taking action and getting used to just being a
- 1:19:53Speaker 5: little bit uncomfortable, I think, And that's just so important
- 1:19:57Speaker 5: because ultimately that is that is where skill and knowledge
- 1:20:01Speaker 5: development actually occurs, when you feel uncomfortable in doing something.
- 1:20:08Speaker 5: And if we can actually start joining together to actually
- 1:20:13Speaker 5: take common approaches and we're actually more disciplined about our habits,
- 1:20:19Speaker 5: then we can actually formulate and delay what is actually
- 1:20:24Speaker 5: being rolled out. So whether it's using paper processes for
- 1:20:28Speaker 5: passport applications etc. We mentioned earlier, whether it's ensuring that
- 1:20:33Speaker 5: you always pay by cash, These are obviously just very
- 1:20:38Speaker 5: little steps that you can actually take, but then you
- 1:20:41Speaker 5: can make sure that you're actually spending money with businesses
- 1:20:44Speaker 5: that you want to support, and that's absolutely key. That's
- 1:20:48Speaker 5: perhaps the most powerful vote we make every single day,
- 1:20:52Speaker 5: and a vote that truly actually matters. So, for instance,
- 1:20:57Speaker 5: we've got an organic grasp farm just up the road
- 1:21:02Speaker 5: from us where we get our beef, and each of
- 1:21:07Speaker 5: the animals is individually named their love, they're cared for,
- 1:21:11Speaker 5: they're out in the fields all year round and they
- 1:21:14Speaker 5: live a wonderful life. And we're then supporting local farmers
- 1:21:20Speaker 5: who are doing the right thing, who have been debanked
- 1:21:24Speaker 5: by a certain large bank, and they deserve our support
- 1:21:29Speaker 5: because ultimately they are running what is truly a sustainable
- 1:21:33Speaker 5: business operation and not some big corporation where you don't
- 1:21:37Speaker 5: know what is been put into the meat or how
- 1:21:41Speaker 5: it's been contaminated or how it's been undermined.
- 1:21:45Speaker 4: Do you think there could be Yeah, I'm picturing this
- 1:21:49Speaker 4: vision in my head where a lot of people get
- 1:21:51Speaker 4: together and form an organization and maybe it's cool, I
- 1:21:55Speaker 4: don't know, freedom dot ink or whatever, and there are
- 1:22:01Speaker 4: a few out there all kind of already, But do
- 1:22:04Speaker 4: you ever think that they could proceed? Because what I
- 1:22:07Speaker 4: see in the quote unquote freedom movement is just people
- 1:22:12Speaker 4: entrenched in ego. And I'm not judging other people. I
- 1:22:16Speaker 4: hold my hand up and say I'm a human being too.
- 1:22:18Speaker 4: You know, it's you know, you've got some For example,
- 1:22:22Speaker 4: you've got all the people that follow Tommy Robinson and
- 1:22:25Speaker 4: think that that's the way forward, and they're not necessarily
- 1:22:31Speaker 4: going to get on with this group of people that
- 1:22:33Speaker 4: came to prominence maybe through the medical narrative and marched
- 1:22:37Speaker 4: in London because of do you see? What I mean
- 1:22:39Speaker 4: is two they both realize that there's something wrong in
- 1:22:43Speaker 4: the world. But it's almost like I think people look
- 1:22:48Speaker 4: for false idols to follow. And by false idols, I
- 1:22:51Speaker 4: mean anytime you project your power outside of you, that's
- 1:22:55Speaker 4: to me, that's onto a full sidol because the divine
- 1:22:58Speaker 4: light light lies within us. So I can you know,
- 1:23:02Speaker 4: I can worship this mug as much as I like.
- 1:23:04Speaker 4: But I'm I think I'm I'm missing the point that
- 1:23:07Speaker 4: the sovereignty is in here. It's not it's not it's
- 1:23:11Speaker 4: not in something outside of me. Could could a sort
- 1:23:15Speaker 4: of grassroots movement get get off the ground? Miles Well,
- 1:23:19Speaker 4: I think it's.
- 1:23:20Speaker 5: A very very interesting proposition, and I think it's it's
- 1:23:25Speaker 5: just interesting to consider that march that took place in
- 1:23:27Speaker 5: London just the other day and how the original organizers
- 1:23:34Speaker 5: almost felt as if their their movement had been hijacked
- 1:23:38Speaker 5: by another collective action group. And you're so right about
- 1:23:44Speaker 5: the actual ego and the desire for more attention, more
- 1:23:49Speaker 5: brand prestige, as well as so called controlled opposition as well,
- 1:23:57Speaker 5: which which is deliberately intended to under mind such movements
- 1:24:01Speaker 5: as well. So I think foremostly the change must come
- 1:24:05Speaker 5: from within. But then that principle of love thy neighbor
- 1:24:10Speaker 5: and actually you know, seeing people's actions rather than words.
- 1:24:14Speaker 5: And I think ultimately we need to move towards a
- 1:24:18Speaker 5: more decentralized system rather than something which is centralized, because
- 1:24:25Speaker 5: I think there's always going to be problems with a
- 1:24:27Speaker 5: centralized element, and there's going to be distrust, there's going
- 1:24:31Speaker 5: to be a desire from that organizing body towards to
- 1:24:35Speaker 5: monopolize things. And the more we can actually decentralize our activities,
- 1:24:41Speaker 5: perhaps that is really the way that we actually truly
- 1:24:46Speaker 5: empower ourselves. And as you said earlier, does start with
- 1:24:50Speaker 5: the individual and the individual's actions.
- 1:24:53Speaker 4: Yes, on that note, Mars, I'm going to thank you
- 1:24:56Speaker 4: ever so much. It's been a fascinating chat. You're always welcome. Well,
- 1:25:02Speaker 4: let's get you back on the show and we'll cover
- 1:25:04Speaker 4: the questions that get raised by our friends out there.
- 1:25:10Speaker 4: Stay on the linemark just so I can thank you properly.
- 1:25:13Speaker 4: Want to hit the record off, but friends, I'm going
- 1:25:15Speaker 4: to put all Miles links below. I've been showing his
- 1:25:18Speaker 4: socials through our throughout our chat, et cetera, et cetera.
- 1:25:24Speaker 4: Clearly somebody that's good, good, good to have on your side.
- 1:25:29Speaker 4: If you can make sure you'll liked and subscribe friends,
- 1:25:33Speaker 4: that would be absolutely brilliant. And yeah, Myles, just thank
- 1:25:41Speaker 4: you again. It's I can tell that there's so much
- 1:25:44Speaker 4: more that I will that I want to ask you,
- 1:25:46Speaker 4: So let's go. Let's go again. Yeah, oh absolutely, I'd
- 1:25:50Speaker 4: love to Chris brilliant. And last thing, I want to
- 1:25:52Speaker 4: say massive thank you folks for everyone that's supported me
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- 1:26:21Speaker 4: chat where we do a bit of kind of live
- 1:26:23Speaker 4: coach and stuff and we talk about why it's important
- 1:26:25Speaker 4: to leave the past behind. We look at global events
- 1:26:28Speaker 4: and I'll be giving you shout outs in them in
- 1:26:34Speaker 4: the live stream. Sorry, I've said enough, I'm out of here.
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