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Bachelor Rewind (Season 4 Ep 1-3) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Almost Famous crew, it's Ben with you. And we
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  Speaker 2: are kicking off our new miniseries, Bachelor Rewind, where we
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  Speaker 2: are going to rewatch and recap a past season. We
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  Speaker 2: had to start with an iconic one. One that we remember.
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  Speaker 2: One that changed us. One that we grew through and
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  Speaker 2: regrew with. one that captivated our hearts because of the
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  Speaker 2: lead and his sincerity, his honesty, his charisma, and his
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  Speaker 2: good looks. We're starting with season four, our very own
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  Speaker 2: Bob Guinea.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the crowd goes wild.
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  Speaker 3: What a nice intro.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I love you and you know that.
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  Speaker 3: I love you too, buddy. And I hope you know that,
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  Speaker 3: but I thank you.
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  Speaker 5: That was very kind of you to say. I, I, uh,
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  Speaker 5: I have not watched my season in a very long time,
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  Speaker 5: if ever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, you know, I was thinking about that as
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  Speaker 2: I watched the first three episodes. So this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be kind of an overview recap, digging in to
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  Speaker 2: what we can talk about now, which is everything.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Um, uh, the first three episodes of your season. And
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking, I don't think I've ever watched my season.
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  Speaker 2: And honestly, I don't know if I ever will.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, You will have to if we're recapping. I will
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  Speaker 5: be hosting the recap of your recap.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness.
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  Speaker 2: We are watching this free on Tubi. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: What an incredible platform.
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  Speaker 2: It was very fun and easy for me to dive in,
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  Speaker 2: to pull up the series. There's a lot of past
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  Speaker 2: series on there. Bob, I'm going to kind of start
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  Speaker 2: grilling you with a few questions, then we're just going
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  Speaker 2: to hang out and talk through your season, the first
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  Speaker 2: three episodes during this episode. I want to start with,
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  Speaker 2: I know your lovely wife, Canyon.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: She is, I'm watching this season. I'm like, yeah, that's,
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  Speaker 2: it makes sense on why Bob is.
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  Speaker 4: Married to Canyon. She's beautiful. She's strong.
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  Speaker 2: She puts you in your place, but she also has
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  Speaker 2: that like fun, goofy side and loves when you are
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  Speaker 2: fun and goofy and yourself and all that makes for
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  Speaker 2: a really great partner. I also envision Canyon watching this.
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  Speaker 2: And not being like jealous or envious, but more watching
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  Speaker 2: it with like humor and making fun of you a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. She's, she had a field day.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, she, when I first met Canyon's mom,
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  Speaker 5: you know, cause Canyon and I are 12 years, we
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  Speaker 5: have a 12 year age gap. Right. So when I
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  Speaker 5: first met Canyon's mother, her mom was like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: super nice and, you know, funny and stuff. And she
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  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, I, we watched your season. I just
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  Speaker 5: loved you.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, thanks. Her name's Mary Jane.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, thank you, Mary Jane. And Jessica's like, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't watch it. Canyon goes, I don't think I saw
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  Speaker 5: that season. And her mom's like, we watched it together.
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  Speaker 5: She's like, no, I don't think I watched that season.
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  Speaker 5: And the comedy of it is Canyon was a senior
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  Speaker 5: in high school when I was on the job. So
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, I shouldn't say that she, she was,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. She was somewhere around there. Maybe a
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  Speaker 5: freshman in college.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure. Point being Canyon. It didn't make as
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  Speaker 3: big of an impact on Canyon as it did on
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  Speaker 3: her mom. So that's how it started.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Then we start messing with each other and I start
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  Speaker 5: realizing she may not have watched this religiously as her mom,
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  Speaker 5: but she definitely saw it because there.
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  Speaker 3: Were moments where she'll go, oh, yeah, it wasn't that so-and-so.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, but I thought you didn't watch it. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: you didn't see that season.
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  Speaker 5: Interesting. Interesting.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it was definitely, you know, it's fun to
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  Speaker 3: watch it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I watched the three episodes kind of back
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  Speaker 5: to back to back, a little binge watch style, kind
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  Speaker 5: of like Thrones-ish. And at times I felt like it
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  Speaker 5: was set in the same era as the Game of Thrones.
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  Speaker 5: And watching it, you know, not just my sideburns, but
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  Speaker 5: everything else seemed very period piece to a certain degree.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of baggy clothes, which are kind of
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  Speaker 2: coming back.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That was fashion forward at the time.
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  Speaker 2: Chris, I think it really is noticeable with Chris because
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  Speaker 2: he's always so put together during recent seasons.
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  Speaker 4: And in this one, I think it.
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  Speaker 2: Probably looked good back then, but you watch and you're like,
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  Speaker 2: he looks kind of like a slob. Like everything's hanging
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  Speaker 2: off of him.
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  Speaker 3: It's like wrinkled.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's not a thing.
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  Speaker 2: But I will say there are a few things that
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  Speaker 2: stood out to me right away. Your sideburns were definitely
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  Speaker 2: one of them because you are such a handsome man
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  Speaker 2: and you look so good during your bachelor season. And
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize you had lost so much weight going
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  Speaker 2: into that season. But you you look great. Your hair
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  Speaker 2: was looking good.
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  Speaker 4: Still looks good.
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  Speaker 2: But you did have this like weird like your sideburns. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you can distinguish what those sideburns were. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I have sideburns.
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  Speaker 3: They were chops.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were like, it almost looked like pubic hair, buddy. Like,
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  Speaker 2: they're like very thin.
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  Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I kept them tight. Like, very tight.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: we can claim you kept those tight.
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  Speaker 3: They were not like pubic hair. I can promise you that.
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  Speaker 3: Or whiskery. They may have looked that way. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's something going on there.
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  Speaker 5: But, uh, I, my hair was long, like much longer
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  Speaker 5: and curlier, but yeah, you know, like it's interesting. I've
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  Speaker 5: often said this, I know you know this, but, um,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I'd always been athletic and, you know, signed
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  Speaker 5: a record deal right out of college and was kind
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  Speaker 5: of like touring all over the place doing my thing.
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  Speaker 5: And maybe that's where that style came from, from the thing. But, um, uh,
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  Speaker 5: the year, two years previous to coming on the bachelor,
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  Speaker 5: I'd blown out my knee and had reconstructive knee surgery.
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  Speaker 5: And so, uh, As I was rehabbing that back, I
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  Speaker 5: ruptured my Achilles on the same leg. And so I
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  Speaker 5: went from a leg cast to a walking boot.
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  Speaker 3: You know, from the Achilles thing.
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  Speaker 5: And it was like, I mean, I basically had two
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  Speaker 5: years of not doing anything. And I think, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and I definitely was the heaviest I'd ever been in
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  Speaker 5: my life. Oddly enough, probably not that much heavier than
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  Speaker 5: when I played in college, when I played football in college,
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  Speaker 5: but the weight had definitely redistributed itself. The number itself
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  Speaker 5: wasn't exactly that much more than when I, you know,
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  Speaker 5: when I was at my best shape in my life,
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  Speaker 5: but it was definitely one of those times where I
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  Speaker 5: was like, you know, I wasn't as fit as I
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  Speaker 5: was used to being.
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  Speaker 3: And that's when I land on TV.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just like, oh, great.
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  Speaker 5: So actually from the bachelorette, from Trista's season of the
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  Speaker 5: bachelorette to the bachelor, I really had just gotten back
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  Speaker 5: to my normal weight, but it just looked like a
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  Speaker 5: monumental difference because I, was actually like, you know, paying
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  Speaker 5: attention again. Cause I, you watch yourself on TV at
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  Speaker 5: your heaviest and you certainly don't want to have to
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  Speaker 5: have to do that again.
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  Speaker 2: The, uh, we're gonna have a lot of fun with
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  Speaker 2: this breakdown. It's going to be hilarious. I can't wait
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  Speaker 2: to talk with you about it, but there is, um,
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  Speaker 2: there is this whole storyline at the beginning, especially during
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  Speaker 2: your intro package of you being like the big bachelor,
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  Speaker 2: the fat bachelor, you know, And I know, because we
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  Speaker 2: saw it, and I think if you pay attention, you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: Bob is a stud. He was a stud in high school.
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  Speaker 2: He's a college athlete. He's good looking. So there's a
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  Speaker 2: side of this that's like, hey, even though you can
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  Speaker 2: gain 30, 40 pounds, you're still good looking enough to
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  Speaker 2: make it very far on The Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 4: Kudos to you.
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  Speaker 2: But also, you are a guy who doesn't take things
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  Speaker 2: super serious, but you are sensitive.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder what, like, you played it off. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you were like, is that a fat joke? And then
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  Speaker 2: I'll be like, but I'm wondering, like, did that affect
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  Speaker 2: you internally?
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think, first of all, kudos to Trista,
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  Speaker 3: I would say.
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  Speaker 5: Trista, I think Trista kept me around despite Mike Fleiss'
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  Speaker 5: best efforts, if I'm being honest. I don't think, I
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  Speaker 5: think for Fleiss, I was probably comedic relief on The Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think he ever thought I was going to
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  Speaker 5: be around that long. And I know that he did
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  Speaker 5: not want me to be The Bachelor. He was his
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  Speaker 5: hand was forced on that one piece basically by Oprah. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Like Oprah going, I want Bob to be the next bachelor.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's I think I think they I
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  Speaker 5: think ABC was happy about it.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that some of the producers of the
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  Speaker 3: show were happy about it.
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  Speaker 5: But that's where I think that kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he's not our typical bachelor. It's like, what is our
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  Speaker 5: typical bachelor? Michelle season one. Right. Really, at that point,
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  Speaker 5: you've only got season two and three. So you got
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  Speaker 5: Aaron Bergey and you got Andrew Firestone. Other than that,
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  Speaker 5: what's typical? I mean, Andrew Firestone's atypical, right? He's a,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I mean, how amazing, you know, to have
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  Speaker 5: the Firestone name and all that associated.
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  Speaker 3: With the show. Like, I think that's atypical.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what, I don't know what
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  Speaker 5: the typical bachelor was, but I think that was more
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  Speaker 5: Fleiss's narrative than anything was, you know, he, I don't
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  Speaker 5: think he was super happy about it, but at the
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  Speaker 5: end of the day, it was.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was so, I, I, I loved it.
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  Speaker 5: When I would meet people and they'd be like, Oh
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  Speaker 5: my God, you look so different in person than you
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  Speaker 5: did on TV.
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  Speaker 3: And Oh my goodness, you know, all this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was kind of like, um, it was a,
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  Speaker 5: it was a weird backhanded compliment, you know, from the
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  Speaker 5: whole run of the thing. I mean, you know, but the,
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  Speaker 5: but at the same time, you know, I didn't, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't sign myself up to be on Trista season of
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  Speaker 5: the bachelorette.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that whole story in and of itself was
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  Speaker 3: kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 5: And they pursued me in a weird way that was like,
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  Speaker 5: I was, I mean, Kudos, you know, on that one
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  Speaker 5: to the casting department, because I thought it was a
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  Speaker 5: joke when they were calling me. So I kept blowing
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  Speaker 5: it off. And then next thing, you know, they're like, you,
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  Speaker 5: we need to meet you. And they fly me outside unseen,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and I've got a walking boot on and
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  Speaker 5: I'll put a cat, like a garbage bag on it
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  Speaker 5: to sit in the pool. And I meet a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of girls and that's kind of the story. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it was definitely a different time from the,
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  Speaker 5: from that perspective. But I think also, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it was one of those things where if I would
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  Speaker 5: have tried to do any of it, it would have
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  Speaker 5: been terrible, but instead it was just sort of happening.
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  Speaker 3: And as it unfolded, I was just along for the ride.
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  Speaker 5: And took it for what it was, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: it was, um, I'm thankful that I did cause it
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  Speaker 5: worked the way it all worked out.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty, pretty spectacular.
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  Speaker 2: This whole breakdown is never going to be about me,
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  Speaker 2: but there is something that I remember now. Um, during
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  Speaker 2: my casting, I came in with on crutches and a
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  Speaker 2: walking boot, uh, and a knee brace because I had
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  Speaker 2: just blown out my knee and had surgery and 10
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  Speaker 2: days before casting and my casting meeting. And so I
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  Speaker 2: remember them saying the last person we saw do this
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  Speaker 2: was Bob Guinea.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: And I knew you at the time and I was like, well,
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  Speaker 4: that's a cool name.
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  Speaker 2: And it also was one of those moments where you're like, goodness,
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting compared with Bob Guinea.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I watched him.
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  Speaker 2: Now your mansion is different during this season. There's a
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  Speaker 2: few different differences. If we look back then there's date
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  Speaker 2: boxes instead of date cards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that was interesting. I never saw the date boxes.
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  Speaker 5: At the time, I'm not sure how it was on
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  Speaker 5: your season, but we were supposed to act as though
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  Speaker 5: we planned the date, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were supposed to act as though we
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  Speaker 3: put together this date box.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's interesting because I saw them bring one
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  Speaker 5: in watching the show back. And I was like, who
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  Speaker 5: would have thought I would have put that together? It
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  Speaker 5: was like a clamshell thing. like uh thing and they're
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  Speaker 5: like oh my god and they're opening it and it's
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  Speaker 5: like i mean it was clearly put together by someone
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  Speaker 5: you know who had a little design aesthetic.
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  Speaker 2: Uh beautiful handwriting that was the part one of the
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  Speaker 2: girls came to me during my season said man your
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  Speaker 2: handwriting is so good and i was like yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well you know what's funny about that whoever did the
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  Speaker 5: and i and i i mean no disrespect if they
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  Speaker 5: happen to be watching this but my handwriting my mom
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  Speaker 5: was always like really strange about making sure my sister
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  Speaker 5: and i had really pretty handwriting and I write like a,
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  Speaker 5: I write like a woman.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I hope that's, that hope that doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: Come across as sexist, but I write like someone who
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  Speaker 5: cares about their handwriting and the people that whoever wrote
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  Speaker 5: the date box or whatever that thing was, I was always.
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  Speaker 3: Like, Oh, I wish they would have asked me. I
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  Speaker 3: would have rewritten it.
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  Speaker 5: And so, you know, it was kind of funny in
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  Speaker 5: that regard that, uh, that you say that. Cause I
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  Speaker 5: was like, wow, my handwriting is better than that person,
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  Speaker 5: but okay. But you know, yeah, it was, it was
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  Speaker 5: always interesting to me. Um, In fact, you know, one
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  Speaker 5: of the things I'm sure we'll get into a little
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  Speaker 5: bit was, you know, and maybe this was episode three,
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  Speaker 5: I guess. But on episode three, when I had taken
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  Speaker 5: Meredith on the date and we've interviewed Meredith on the show.
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  Speaker 5: And it was kind of funny because some things happened
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  Speaker 5: on that on the date. And I'm like, see, I
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  Speaker 5: knew this happened. And I was I was so excited.
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  Speaker 5: So we'll get to that when the time comes. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not going to I'm not going to take your agenda
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  Speaker 5: away from you.
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  Speaker 3: I'll follow. I want to allow myself to be interviewed.
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  Speaker 5: So let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we have no agenda. We're in this together, Bob.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how I want this to be because it
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  Speaker 2: is fun to hear from you. So we have date boxes.
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  Speaker 2: We have a different location. The mansion that you're staying
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  Speaker 2: in is the bachelor pad. Did you actually stay there?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: In fact, Andrew Firestone, you know, we became friends, uh,
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  Speaker 5: fast friends previous to, um.
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  Speaker 3: That, that was for me being on Trista season. And
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  Speaker 3: then Andrew had already been the bachelor at that point.
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  Speaker 3: And we became buddies.
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  Speaker 5: And he even said to me, he's like, man, when
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  Speaker 5: you get to that mansion, just know that it's creepy.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, really?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it looked amazing and it shocked me, but
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  Speaker 5: they had basically made it into a studio.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So it's a, it's a, it was a real house.
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  Speaker 5: The guy was always around, which was kind of creepy.
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  Speaker 4: Like a guy living there with you, the guy that
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  Speaker 4: lived there.
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  Speaker 5: He would stay in the guest house when they, when,
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  Speaker 5: when we would be filming there, the pool was amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And the view over the ocean was amazing.
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  Speaker 5: But that place became like a vacant property for a
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  Speaker 5: period of time after The Bachelor had moved on.
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  Speaker 3: For good reason.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it was like you'd walk into this place, dude,
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  Speaker 5: the bedroom itself, like you'd be laying in the bedroom
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  Speaker 5: and like you'd lay in the bed and you'd be
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  Speaker 5: looking up at the ceiling. And it was like the
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  Speaker 5: ceiling had cameras and maybe not cameras, but definitely lights
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  Speaker 5: and things that could have been cameras. And so you'd
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  Speaker 5: be laying there looking at it going, are they like
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  Speaker 5: watching me sleep? Like, this is so strange. And so
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  Speaker 5: Andrew actually moved a mattress into the closet. And he
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  Speaker 5: slept on the closet floor on a mattress. And I
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: had done that a couple of times, too, because it
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: was just stressing me out. Most of the time I
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: was fine. But, you know, yeah, it was the house
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: was had really cool bones. And I wish in retrospect
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: I would have like bought it because I know it
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: was here and I didn't. But maybe it was just
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: too much work to be done on it. But, yeah,
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: it was it was definitely a different place. Great view
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: of outdoors of the ocean and stuff, though, like a
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: zero gravity.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Really cool.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like the views from it are incredible.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: It does shoot well.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: And then the women were how far from you?
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: They were like about a mile up the road, maybe
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: a mile and a half up the road.
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: And, you know, I mean, I never, I think I
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: would go there to pick them up. But other than that,
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: I never really spent any time at their place. So
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: I didn't know what the setup was other than, you know,
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: when I would pull up to get them for dates and.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because I think in modern times, it's kind
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: of weird to think, you know, the Bachelor Mansion is
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: iconic with the franchise now. People think of the Bachelor Mansion,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: they think of the one that, you know, I was at,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: that it's been at for the last few years.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: But I think a.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Lot of people forget it wasn't always there. In fact,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: some of our most successful, iconic, memorable seasons were not
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: shot at that mansion, yours included in that. We also
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: see some bigger sponsorships, I think, than we have today.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: We see you walk in in medical pants and sip
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: on a Pepsi.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'll.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Phrase this with being, I'm watching the first three episodes
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: and I'm still in awe of you, Bob. You are
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: an incredible person. human to these.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Women during this whole thing. So sweet that you were
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: saying that you.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Were, you're great at it. Uh, there's just those few
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: things that I'm like, Hey, I don't know. There's probably
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: more things. If you watched my bag, the sideburns were
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: like interesting choice, different time, different era. It's there's also
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: the way that you sip on a Pepsi makes me
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: feel all sorts of weird.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: All right. So here's the deal. We're in Santa Monica, right?
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: And we're in this really cool hotel. I can't think
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: of the name of the hotel, but it's right there.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: Right down, like, nearby the pier. It's, like, multiple-colored hotel
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: from the outside. It's an iconic place. But, and I
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: go in, and we're, the Viceroy.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: And I go in to get my, they're going to do, like,
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: a wardrobe fitting for me, right?
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: And, of course, you know, there's much to.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: Be made about the fact that, oh, well, when you
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: were on The Bachelorette, it was a totally different size.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, we've covered that, you know.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Thanks again for remembering that.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Thanks for continuously reinforcing that. I appreciate it. So they
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: keep bringing in all these clothes for me to try on.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: And then I'll never forget Jason Carbone, who was in
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: one of the co-EPs at the time.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Carbone says, all right, well, real quick, we're going.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: To shoot this spot for Pepsi, vanilla Pepsi. And I said, oh,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: are they sponsoring the show?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah. And I said, well, that's cool.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: What do I get out of it? What do you mean?
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: And I said, what do you mean, what do I mean?
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's my likeness.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Now keeping in mind, I was also the first bachelor
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: at this point who, you know, I had had, I
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: had had a record deal. They kind of pushed that
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: down a little bit, but I, you know, I went
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: into it. I had been represented by the same agency
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: for several years. So I'm like, well, I didn't say
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: I was going to do like endorsements or anything like that.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm like, Oh, it's part of the contract.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't think so.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Like I'm going to, I'm, if I'm drinking Pepsi in
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: a thing, then I should, you know, at least send
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: me a couple cases of Pepsi.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Like what the hell, you know? And he's like, no, dude,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: it's part of your thing. Just drink the Pepsi. And
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no. And he's like, yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, I'll drink it. So every time I
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: would do it, I would do it just stupidly. Like
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: things that I knew they couldn't use, you know? And
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: he's like, why are you doing this?
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, why not? I'm like, honestly, like, are
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: you kidding me?
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: And the funny thing is now I think I kind
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: of helped uh, future bachelors because now they, it's not
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: like they're doing herbal essence commercials during the run.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Of the passion for free. You know what I mean?
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Here I am sucking down a vanilla Pepsi and it's like,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: you know, no one's, I'm like, somebody's getting paid off
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: of this. And, um, sure enough, I'm sure somebody did,
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: but it wasn't me. So I, I decided I wasn't
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: going to give them quality material. And that was my
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: way of, you know, being a smart ass, I guess,
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: you know, for the lack of better words. And, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: that was how I was drinking my soda at the time.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Cause I figured there's no way that they would, ever
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: want their drinks to be associated with someone who would
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: drink a soda that way. Yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I wonder, I want to make sure that like that
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: was planned because you watch it and you're like, Oh goodness, Bob,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: like you're like.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what I was doing.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: You put your lips out real far. Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: The we'll post that little pic on our social. So
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: people listening to this can go back and just watch
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that moment.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: And if you think about it, like, I mean, think
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: about yourself. Think about anybody who's been in that situation. Like,
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: no one would, you know, be like, oh, yeah, of course,
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: that's fine. I just was like, what are you guys
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: talking about? Like, no one ever talked to me about this,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: you know?
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: I loved the beverage. It was a delightful flavor. You know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: wasn't anything wrong with the beverage itself. But I just
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: was like, no one asked me about this.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: This is weird, you know? Yeah.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't actually know.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I think you mentally can say that you help people.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: But there's a slot machine somewhere out there that I have.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: have lost money on with my picture on it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: So I'm sure.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I'm sure. Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Don't know how much things change in the, you know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: what 15 years between our times as bachelors also white
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: roses was unaware that the bachelor used to use white roses.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: I didn't realize that either until watching it back. And I,
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: I'll be hard pressed to tell you that I thought
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: at one point they were red. So I'm thinking we
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: might change mid season.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I thought it was maybe like a, there is a
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: reason for specific roses. I, you know, nowadays I think
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: the bachelor claims they own, not own the rights. That's
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I think they're alleging that they have some type of
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: trademark on like red roses. But I think right here,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: we're seeing that it hasn't always been red roses, white roses,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Roses also.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I wonder because, I mean, what does a white
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: rose symbolize?
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I don't even know. I mean.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Purity.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Is that what it is?
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I'm guessing.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Then they make the right choice because I have not
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: heard as a pure and sanctimonious badge.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: All right, let's dive into some of the women that
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: stood out to me, and then I'd love for you
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to add any women that stood out to you. Obviously,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: we see Leanne get a lot of pushback from the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: other women in the house. The one thing with the
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: past seasons, we don't get a lot of the background
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: storylines from the women, and so we're kind of just
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: relying on hearsay and feedback and interviews, but we're not
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: understanding why they're upset with people. Leanne was one of
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: those for me. I understand she's 24. She's a second
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: grade teacher. Did you have any feelings that Leanne or
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: any of these other women were like, maybe not getting
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: along with the other ladies in the house?
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: No. You know, not until it started being brought to
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: my attention. And I, and I will say this, you know, like,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: I think that, you know, it's one of those things.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: And we see this years later watching the show too. Like,
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: you know, people are always like, oh, you must've kept
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: her around because the producers told you to. And you're like,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: and I was like, no, I kept her around because
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: I thought she was really cute. She was sweet.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: And she was very.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Deliberate about her time with me. You know, like we
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: would be together and she'd be like, I'm here for you.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: And I, you know, I just, I don't care. You know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: and that didn't strike me as a bad thing.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, even though, cause I
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: had made it such a point you know, I really, when.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: They first asked me to be the bachelor and I
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: don't say this flippantly, I was like, no, thank you.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: I'm loving, I'm loving my life as the lovable loser
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: from Trista season. Everywhere I go, they're like, she should
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: have chose you. I'm like, actually she shouldn't have. She
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: chose the right guy. Cause I always loved Tristan Ryan together.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: But it was like, I knew the pressure that came
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: with that position. And man, if you did, if you
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: got the wrong, if you pick what the people thought
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: were the wrong person, which at the time they really
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: skewed the way they edited the show.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: So that everybody was in love with the runner up.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: And that, you know, that way when the, when, you know, I.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Think they started doing that because they realized it was
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: a good move to recast someone who had previously done
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: on a season, frankly.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: And I was the, I was the start of that
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: for the guys. But I think it was one.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Of those things that like, you know, you'd come off
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: the show and there, and no matter what they thought
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: the other girl should have won. And I remember how
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: horrible I felt, you know, with, that, you know, even with,
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: even with Estella and Kelly Jo, how horrible I felt
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: about that stuff. And, but I, I liked Leanne. I
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: thought Leanne was super cute. She was very flirty and fun.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: And like I said, very deliberate about why she was there.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: And she was like, you know, I, I knew who
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: you were on the show.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I emailed you.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: I forgot she even said that to me until she
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: comes up to me when she's getting out of the limo.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: And she's like, it's so weird.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: I emailed you and you didn't answer.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't even think I know
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: how to work my email yet.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is really guys, this is really, um, and, uh,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: but it was like one of those things where it
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: was like, uh, you know, I thought she was attractive
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: and I liked that she was so into me.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I hate to say that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Like that because it sounds so egotistical, but I liked that.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: And I wasn't picking up on the fact that the
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: other women and she didn't get along until later in the,
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: in the, I think actually right where season where episode
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: three ends, where they vote for someone who they think
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: is the least compatible.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: And that's the first.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Indication that I got that the women didn't like her
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: because I'm like, how would they say she's the least
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: compatible with me?
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Like we get along great, you know?
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: And ultimately I think it was because, you know, they
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: didn't like her and they didn't, they knew more about
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: her perhaps than I did. And you know, but yeah,
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: nothing was leaked to me previously by the producers or anyone.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: They there's one other big difference in this season. And
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I remember when this was going on and I actually
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: don't know the season they change it on, but there's
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: a whole deliberation room with photos of the women. I
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: personally liked that part of the show as a viewer.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I thought it was.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Fun to see them kind of look through pictures and
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: take down pictures and, it's also, I don't know if
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: you can attest to this, but it's especially on night,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: like one through three, it's very helpful to have the picture.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: I was just going to say, you know, I don't
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: know how the guys, uh, did, did this job without it, frankly.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, maybe they did, maybe they still utilized it
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: and they just didn't feel the need to show.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't have them.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't have them at all.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: Huh?
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't have them. And I had to, I had a,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: like a, a list of the names.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: In fact, I had, um, It was like a Rolodex
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: of their pictures with their names on it. So it's
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: like their casting picture and I could like it fit
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: in a backpack.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: So it went everywhere.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I went for the first few weeks because I was like, okay,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going on this group date with so, so, and so,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and I could scroll through it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Did you make that or did they make that for you?
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: They made that for me.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I was walking around with like eight by tens,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: but I'll say this, you know, I'll never forget the
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: first night. And I, I think I've told you this
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: story before, but, I, after the very first night, it
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: wasn't that I thought I made a mistake of any
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: of the women that I kept, but I definitely regretted
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: sending one home. And I sent, and you talk about
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: doing things for the right reasons. I sent her home
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: for the wrong reasons. And I went to the producers
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: and I was like, I have a thought.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: And they're like, okay.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, I really think we should do like
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: a golden rose or something where I can bring someone
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: back that I'm thinking about that I sent home and
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: that maybe.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't have. And they're like, no, you know, there
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: was no deviation from the formula back then.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: And I remember being really bummed about it because Shay,
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: the firefighter from Louisiana.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I was, she's on my list. I want to dig
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: into Shay. I thought Shay was a knockout.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Beautiful and super cool.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Like, and, but I hardly got to talk to her
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: and I was so concerned that people were going to
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: think that, I, you know, at the time, you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: I really hadn't watched The Bachelor previously to my season
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: and I knew who Trista was, but I really hadn't
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: watched the show in its entirety. And so I I
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: was concerned that people were going to think I kept
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: her around because she was.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: The hot one or one of the hot ones.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: And I didn't realize that they wouldn't know that I
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: didn't get a chance to talk to her. Right. Like
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: in my mind, I thought they were going to see that.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: He never even got to talk to this girl and
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: he kept her. What a superficial asshole. Like that's what,
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: that's what I was.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: And, um, unbeknownst to me, you know, no one knew
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: that I didn't matter.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Right. And so when I sent her home, it was
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: because I didn't get to know her and, um, and
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: I didn't want people to judge me for keeping her. And, and, uh,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: and so, you know, there's, there's a little bachelor lore
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: for you, I guess, is that, you know, someone who
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: I was very attracted to, I never got to talk
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: to you and I sent her home and, Um, in retrospect,
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: you know, it's like, uh, I wish I could have
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: gotten to know her more because she was someone who
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: I thought about for a day or two after that
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: first rose money.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: And, um, you know, I was disappointed that I, that
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I didn't get to know her better.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Well, and you also had mentioned her with Chris, Chris
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: comes and you can sit in the deliberation room and
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: he's like, who stood out to you? And you mentioned
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: her name and I immediately went, okay, good. She's going
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: to be here. Cause I thought she was fantastic. She's
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: a firefighter and hairstylist. beautiful from the South. I'm like,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: that is a really like interesting person to follow along with.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Totally.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: And then you send her home and it was shocking
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: to me.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I think it probably was shocking to the audience as well.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's interesting, you know, you don't know what
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: you don't know at that point.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: And it was like, you know, in my mind, I
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: guess I was trying to make sure everyone knew that
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: I was going to do the right thing. And I
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: was sure try and handle this properly and i in
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: you know in uh in retrospect you know i i
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: did go to the producers and ask if we could
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: bring her back and they said no so yeah i
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: wonder what she's doing today hope she's yeah if.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: She listens to this i would love to do like
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: to bring her into one of these conversations.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Oh my god that'd be awesome wouldn't it yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: In fact, I'll just put a PSA out there. If
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: any of the women from Bob's season listens to this recap,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: please write us or call in. And we want to
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: get you on for a few minutes to talk to
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: you about Bachelor Bob.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: I'd love to find out what Leanne thinks. I don't
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: think anyone ever got to talk to her because they
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: didn't talk to the quote-unquote villains back then. I don't
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: think she was a villain, but they didn't really– showcase them,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: you know, uh, like we've done, you know, in seasons past,
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I'd be curious to think to find out what she
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: thought about the whole situation.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Any other women that really stood out to you in
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: night one, let's start there that you were like, Hey,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: this is gold. She's going to be around a while. She's,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: she's like, I'm, I can't, you know, ever see saying
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: goodbye to her.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: Definitely.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Um, Kelly, Joe, definitely Estella.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Um, you know, the, and a lot of it, like,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: you know, back then there wasn't the hokey, you know,
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: you better think of something really clever when you come
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: in and wearing a costume coming in on a horse
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: or any of that stuff.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: It was just really that first impression. And, um, I really.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Remember, um, Estella and Kelly Joe from that first night,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: just making a huge impact on me. And, um, you know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Mary came in speaking Spanish and it was very, you know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: it was like sexy and cool and it was different,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: For, for that.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: And, um, uh, I remember, um, I remember Christy from
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Chicago who she, she stuck around.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I remember, um, Misty, um, like Misty Rake.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Um, like a lot of those entrances were just really
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: natural and sweet and nice. And, um, you know, and
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: I just, yeah, I remember those and thinking, oh, wow,
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: I'm excited to get to know them, you know? Um, and,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: and Leanne mentioning that she had written me and, Um,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: you know, some, I remember somebody showed up with a
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: CD that I had put out and was like, you know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: I'm going to have you sign this before I leave.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: And I can't remember who that was and they didn't
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: show it, but.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Did you ever sign it?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: I didn't want me to after I sent him home,
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: you know, but no, you know, I can't, I mean,
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: there was just some really like super, uh, genuine moments
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I was, I was shocked.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Cause I didn't think that it was going to be,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: I was jaded, I think.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Going into it and maybe didn't trust the process.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: Like I, you know, because I went into it from
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: the mindset of I'll give it a try, but, you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: who knows, you know, or whatever. And instead I was like, wow,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: that was way cooler than I thought it was going to.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Be, you know.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: And it was a really fun experience and a really
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: fun night, especially, you know, then my mom shows up
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: and that was pretty awesome.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's jump to that part.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think we've seen that since, at least on
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: night one. But there is a thing.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: That you do.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: And I watched this because I haven't gone back and
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: watched pre-seasons in a while. And I'm trying to figure out,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: because people are asking me right now, when I sit
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: down and talk to them, who should be the next Bachelor?
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: And I don't want to just flippantly throw out names. One,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: because I don't know the backstory of everybody. But two,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure I'm answering it with, this
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: is who I think could be a good bachelor. One
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: that we cheer for, that's captivating, that brings the good
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: side out in people. And you were definitely that. I mean,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: you were authentic. You were transparent. You didn't just say fluff.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: And one of the things I appreciated was how you
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: spoke about your ex-wife. And that relationship. Also, how you
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: spoke about your mom and the jokes that you made
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: with Chris. I mean, you had more cojones than I did,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: especially early on, because I couldn't make any jokes.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I was so nervous. But you're like, every time you
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: say Mrs. Guinea, Chris, it makes me think of my mom,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: which is weird, buddy.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's getting kind of weird. No, you know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I've always been, you know, I've always.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: had a great relationship with my parents and with my family.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: And, you know, I made no secret about it. You know,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I was always like, yeah, I'm just a, you know.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Curly-headed, buck-toothed mama's boy from, you know, from South Detroit, right?
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: And so I would always like just, you know, I
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: don't know. I've always had that kind of self-deprecation from
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: that perspective. But, you know, my parents mean a lot
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: to me and meant a lot to me. And, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: lost my dad a few years ago. So watching this,
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: seeing him on there, was really touching.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: And then, uh, you know, I.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Can't say enough about seeing my mom in that element,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: given what we're going through now, my mom has dementia and, um,
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: you know, we're struggling with that. And, uh, it really
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: was touching.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I have to thank you.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: I have to thank the bachelor producers for that because, um,
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: you know, we've had our differences over the years, but, uh,
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: for them to showcase my mom in that way for
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: me now to be able to see it all these
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: years later, I forgot that, I forgot just some of
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: the magic that my mom brought to situations and the
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: way she walked into a room. And then here she is,
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: you know, at this stage in her life and her
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: son ends up on some TV show.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: And she's like, of course I'll go on.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: And then she comes in and just not in a
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: way that we've seen some other moms. My mom, open
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: book is hugging. Everyone wants everyone to feel welcome.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Totally not judgmental. Cause that's, that's who my mom is.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: And she loved all of them.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: Like she literally was zero help because she, She loved
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: every woman that she met that season. And, you know,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: there was never a moment that I mean, it was
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: really hard for my mom.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: And we'll see later and later on when my family
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: comes back into it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: Very, very difficult for her to say that she liked
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: one person over another for me because she genuinely saw
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: things in everyone that she loved. And thankfully, I'm a
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: lot like my mom in that regard. Like it's I
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: don't really meet too many people that I don't like.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: And my mom, I think I got that from her,
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: and I'm thankful, really thankful for that.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: It is one of those moments we pause because for
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: as funny and goofy as The Bachelor can be, especially
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: watching it back, there are moments that changed me and
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: moments that if I watched back, I would feel very
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: deeply about, changed.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: Who I am.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: And I think that was– I have it written down here. Like,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: just seeing my parents on TV would be wild and
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: weird and also really cool.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: And I was assuming that when you saw that scene
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: with your mom walking in and your dad there, that
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: it did hit you differently. No matter how fun and
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: goofy this whole thing is, you see them back. You
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: see who they are.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: And you see them young.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. the visual of, of the way my parents
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: were at that time. And cause you know, I mean,
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: let's be honest, right? No one looks in the mirror
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: and we don't see ourselves aging the way that we
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: genuinely do.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: And one of the things that you get as, as,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: as a.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Part of being a part of this franchise, I guess,
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: is you have this kind of this, this captured moment
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: in time that, you know, it's a movie.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: It's not just a picture.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: It's a, it's a video diary of your life of that,
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: this most amazing part of your life that, you know,
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: whether it worked out for the couple or not, it's
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: still something that you, you have that a lot of
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: people don't. And to see my, my sister, my brother-in-law
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: to see my nephew, Jack, uh, which we'll see him
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: in later episodes. Cause I remember watching that episode and
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: being just in love with the, the way.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: They capture him. And then, um, my grandmother, you know, who.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: Wasn't able to make the video, uh, I wasn't able
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: to make the shooting, uh, schedule because she actually fell
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: down and hurt herself, uh, before we got there to,
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: to film. And, and she was embarrassed cause she had
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: like a black eye cause she fell down and hit
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: her face on, on this thing.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: And she was like, I don't want to be on camera.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I get it, grandma. It's okay.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: You know, but it's like the memory that daddy votes
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: with me too, is just, you know, crazy.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, you know, it's funny.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: I always used to make fun of the fact that
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I was like, you know, well, I didn't cry when
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: I was the bachelor on, on, on camera, you know,
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: or whatever. And, um, but man, it brought me to
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: tears watching it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, uh, It is special.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: And you, I, you just kept, you said it perfectly
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: is these are huge moments in our life, no matter
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: how we look back on them, they changed us and
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: to have family involved in them and being able to see,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, goodness, like I remember my mom getting dressed
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and getting her makeup done by like a makeup artist.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: It was like one of her first times ever to
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: come on and film and how excited she was and
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: how nervous she was. And I'm like, goodness, like that,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: even in itself, You know, it's like we're giving our
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: parents moments that they'll remember no matter how they feel
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: about the moment itself. There's moments to remember and how
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: special is that that you get to celebrate and share
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: that and now watch it back.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Pretty magical.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Switching gears a little bit.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Obviously, we are talking about episodes one through three and
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: kind of the highlights and the overview of them. It's
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: not important for us to dig into what happened at
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: every scene. It's not interesting to anybody, but I would
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: recommend going and watching this back. We're watching it on Tubi.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: It is worth going and watching back and going through
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the process. We talked through night one. That's its own beast, Bob.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: And you handled it well. You handled it as well
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: as anybody can. It's kind of just a chaotic mess.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: And you send a bunch of people home. And then
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: you continue on.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: And you have then.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: You start these group dates. The group date stress and pressure.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: And I want to ask this question. because it was
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: your story more than I think anybody else's story. You
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: were beloved following your season.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: You were the lovable loser. You were on Oprah. You
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: were supported.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: And I think when they said, Hey, we had to
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: make Bob the bachelor because people wouldn't shut up about it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think they were lying. I think people were
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: like that guy. We want to watch again. There are
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: many reasons for that. I mean, they saw something in
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: you that says, Hey, I relate with this guy, but
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I also love this guy. And he's, charismatic and handsome
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: and he deserves love. But I, and I, I hesitate
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: here because I put myself.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Into your situation and I don't mean to, but I.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Don't know how to ask the question. How did that
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: not carry on for you to be there on these
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: group dates and.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: On night one?
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: To live up to this expectation that they had of
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: you at that point.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: And, and maybe even add in.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: And when you answer this, what you knew America had
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: of you, like, you know, you said already you were
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: in your own head about it.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you were man. Like you knew how much
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: people loved you. You don't want to let them down.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was, it was a lot of pressure. I
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: remember feeling, I didn't feel like it was too big
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I, I don't, I don't want to,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: I want to sound like an, arrogant ass saying that,
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: but I didn't feel like it was out of the
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: scope of what I could do.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Um, but I did feel like, like.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: The biggest thing for me was like, man, I'm going
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: to hurt some people's feelings and they don't deserve it.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: And I just don't know how to avoid that. And that,
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: that for whatever reason weighed on me very heavily. And I,
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: and I, I hear myself say it like in the,
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: in the first episode, especially, uh, quite a bit, but
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: I also remember, you know, I remember I thought I
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: had worked out this great thing with the producers.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I'll do it. I'll be the
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: bachelor guy. If, and I had like a couple of provisions, right.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: And one of them was, I'm like, I don't ever
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: want to, I don't ever want the joke to be
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: on me.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: And they're like, wait a minute. I'm like, well, if
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: you want me to do something, you need to tell
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: me why.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: And then I'm going to determine whether or not I'm
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: going to do it, but I want to know what
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: you guys are going.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: For, you know?
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: And if, and if it's manipulative or if it's mean,
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing it, you know? And, Um, and so,
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: you know, to that end, I remember them at one
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: point saying, you know, okay, here's the deal.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: And Sally Ann Salsano, who I still love. Sally Ann's like, okay,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: here's what we're going to do.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: Guinea. Uh, these three girls are sitting on the couch
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: and there's a reason for it because the one in
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: the middle and the other two don't like each other.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: And so what we want you to do is we
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: want you to go over. And this is when people
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: ask me, look, is it, is the show scripted?
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it wasn't for me. Situations were, but they
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: didn't tell me what to say or anything. And they're like, okay.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: And so literally, she'd say, you know, I want you
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: to go over. I want you to ask the girl
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: in the middle if you can steal some time with her.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: And I want you to go outside. I want you
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: to sit on that bench. And I'm like, all right.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: And then what? She's like, doesn't matter. We're not filming you.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: We're filming them.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: It's their reaction that matters. And I was like, thank you.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Thank you for telling me that. So now I'm like, OK,
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: I'll do that. You know, and so I go over.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: I go, sure enough, though, they end up filming me anyway.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: But they are filming the girl's reaction. And I thought
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: that was Interesting. So I was like, I'll do that.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: That's OK. And why don't they like her? Now, you know,
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: just the way women can be sometimes or whatever.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, OK.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: And so now what you know, what inherently happens to
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: me in a moment like that is when now it's
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: and I want to make them like each other. Right.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: So my goal, you know, and this is I blame
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: my mom for this one, too. But my goal is
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: now I want to find out what about this girl
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: do they not.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Like and how can I somehow make them like each other?
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: Right. And so, you know, then it becomes like this
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: weird challenge for me. And like, it's just stupid. It's
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: just like how I am. But, you know, that was
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: something that I thought was interesting.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: I forgot what your question even was. Oh, how do
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: I get through the whole situation? And it became a thing, though.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: I was like, OK, you know what? I'm going to
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: find out something about everyone. My whole point was I
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: want to find out something about everyone, but I'm going
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: to remember it. And so I literally did. Like, I
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: remember at night I'd be laying in my weird room.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: And I would write down, especially for the women that
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: I sent home that first rose ceremony, I wrote down
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: their names and I wrote down something about them that
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: I thought was really interesting.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I remember the girl, I think her name is Lena, Lana.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Her name is Lana. And she had a llama farm.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: I wrote it down. Llama farm. Lana the llama. Yeah,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Lana with the llama farm.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: And then the twins, like I knew something about each
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: of the twins and, and I think it was the
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: first season they ever had twins. And I think they,
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: they would have probably wanted me to keep one and
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: send one, but I was like, no, they're packaged deal
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: one way or the other.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter to me. I'm not doing that. And
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: Of that kind of stuff, you know, that I was like,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: and I, you know, I'm sure you were too, but
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: I was constantly skeptical of what the producers were asking
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: me to do. And, you know, are they, are they
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: just manipulating the situation to try and get, you know,
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: So I watched that a lot too. But I was,
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: I remember that first night thinking, you know, I want
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: to make a point of making sure that each one
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: of these women have fun tonight because I don't want
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: them to go home and think, God, he's such a,
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: you know, a self-consumed, you know, PLS, right? I wanted
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: them to at least know that I cared that they
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: took the time to be there, that I wanted them
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: to at least appreciate the night and the situation and
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: And I wanted them to feel important. And so that
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: was kind of like my goal that first night especially
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: was to do that.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: I know The Bachelor is going to be listening to
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: this for multiple reasons. They are going to be tuning
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: in to listen to these breakdowns, which is great. We're
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: here to promote an incredible season of The Bachelor. Do
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: nothing more than that. But I do think you're touching
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: on what I have, at least in your case, figured
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: out what makes a good Bachelor.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: You have to have the confidence, one, to be the bachelor.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Because when you have the confidence, you also have the
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: ability to not make it about you. Because you know
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: no matter what, you're going to be the one on
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: TV the whole time. And your desire to get to
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: know the women and actually get to know them, ask
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: them questions, stay curious, dive into what makes them tick
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and what makes them angry is I think brings out
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: not only the emotional side of the show, but it
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: brings out a transparency in the show that the viewers
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: can say, I like her or I don't. And I
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: like him or I don't, but at least they know.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: And at least they have the information that's needed. And
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: you did a great job of that with an authenticity
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: and an intentionality that I think made it, it popped
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: off the screen.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: You were yourself. which we love. We love Bob.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Come on, it's Bob. Thanks, buddy.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: But there was an intentionality to how you dealt with
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: the dating scenarios that I found fascinating.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: You cared.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: And you didn't just care because it was going to
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: make you look good on TV. You cared because it
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: was going to bring out the most out of everybody
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: and probably give you the best chance of finding love.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: And I think that right there is the key to
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: finding a good bachelor. So bachelor, if you're listening, find
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: somebody that has the confidence to but also the desire
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: to not make it about themselves.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Bob, as we wrap.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Episodes one through three, we've gone through a lot, and
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: obviously there's the details in between and all that. And
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: so I do encourage everybody to go back and watch
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: on Tubi, episodes one through three or one through six,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to do, binge it, and then write
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: us in with your questions, maybe on individual moments that
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: stand out to you or confusing moments. You're like, I
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: need to know more criticisms or praises for Bob. as
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: we walk through his season together here on the Almost
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Famous Podcast. So go back and watch it. We have
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: talked about, in an overview, the women, the limo entrances,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: night one, the group dates. But I do want to
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: dive in as we close up here.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: On one one-on-one date.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: It's very ironic that Meredith Phillips, who we later saw
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: become the Bachelorette, was asked on a one-on-one date, your
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: first one-on-one date of the season, a few hours after
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: her grandmother passed away and she found out about it.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Is there any backstory to that? Was that just random?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Was that planned?
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: At the time?
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, uh, nothing was like, I didn't
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: really even know until I was on my way to the,
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: as I recall, I, maybe I have this wrong, but, um,
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: it was more like random a little bit as to
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: who was on the group dates, who was on the
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: individual dates and things of that nature. And, um, I
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: remember heading over to the house to pick up Meredith and, um,
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: finding out that her grandma, her grandma had passed.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: And, um, I.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Remember thinking my immediate thought was she needs to go home,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: you know?
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: And, um, and so I remember saying that to her,
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: you know, I remember saying, um, you know, Meredith, I
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: think you need to go home. And, um, I remember
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: her saying, you know, my, no, my, my, my grandma
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: would want me to stay. And I'm like, your grandma
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: would want you to stay on a weird dating game show.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: You don't even know the guy. Like, are you sure?
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: Cause I was like, you know, if my grandma dies,
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: I'm going home and I don't care what happens, you know? And, um, I,
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: I just remember thinking when she, when she basically indicated
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: to me that there was no talking her out.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Of it, she was gonna stay.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: That I was like, okay, well, then I'm going to,
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: I'm going to make sure we have a really wonderful time. And,
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: but I remember getting emotional about it because I was
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: already missing my family. And, you know, the way this had,
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: had worked out for me was I was gone doing
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: the bachelorette for quite some time. Then in between there,
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: I was doing all this other stuff that was new
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: and exciting and different. And, um, You know, and much
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: to what you said, I mean, I remember saying to
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: people like, you know, I think the bachelor, whoever they
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: make the next bachelor needs to know it's not about him.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: You know, it's it's about a bunch of gorgeous women
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: who have never lost anything being in a room.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: And he's he's handing out flowers. Right. I mean, it's
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: not really about this dude, you know. And then they
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: made me the dude, you know.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: But I remember thinking that and I remember in that moment, really,
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: it was very sobering for me. Like, I was just like, oh,
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: my God, like, I can't believe you're staying. And now
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: I really have to make sure we have a special time,
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: you know? And I know they had told me ahead
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: of time. And again, at this point, you know, I'm, I'm,
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: I'm basically acting like I planned the whole day, you know?
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: So I'm like, Oh, we're going to go do this
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: amazing thing. We're going to ride horses down a beach.
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: And she's like, yeah, I don't really like her.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, what?
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: And then I'm like, and then we're going to come
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: up on this sandcastle that I made, which I totally did.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: Not make clearly.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Cause I mean, it is, Yeah, it is nice.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: It's like they clearly handled like a general contractor to
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: come in and throw this thing together.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: And then I'm going to pull.
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: This basket of steaming seafood out of the beach that
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: I've been, I've been, you know, marinating and baking for hours.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: And she's like, yeah, I don't want to eat that.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: I don't like oysters.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: And I remember saying this and I remember going, because
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: I'm clearly mic'd and everything, but I don't have an
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: IFBN or anything like that.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: There's no earpieces back then. Not that they didn't have them,
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: but they just didn't use them.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: But I remember saying, oh, So clearly you guys got
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: to know Meredith before planning this date.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: She hates her. I'm like, what is she allergic to
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: sand too?
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: Is that we're going to, you know, and, uh, and
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: she's laughing, you know, and I'm, but I remember having
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: like this really nice time with her. I didn't remember
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: how emotional I got though. We're talking about her grandmother until, uh,
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: you know, until I was.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Watching it back.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: I was like, Oh my God.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: You know, I, cause it, it affected me the same
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: way watching it. Like I was like, Oh geez.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: You know? And you know, I, I, I can honestly say,
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: you know, um, that I'm you know I've had different
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: versions of my memory on this date with her over
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: the years and I and I will say that watching
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: it back I think it was really nice that she
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: stayed and I think it was a situation where maybe
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have stayed personally I probably would have gone
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: home frankly but I I did appreciate getting to know
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: her and getting to know more about her in that
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: moment and I think you know we were both allowing
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: ourselves to be really vulnerable you know um Cause I was,
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: I think up until that point, I kind of been
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: a robot, you.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Know, I'm like, I'm going to get through this world
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: ceremony or whatever. And I think realizing how tired I
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: already was in the process.
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: And I think realizing that someone cared enough to stay
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: when they really didn't know me that well and, you know,
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: giving it a chance, you know, I was appreciative of that.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Again, it's one of those moments. Goodness, we're only three
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: episodes in where all of a sudden reality hits the
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: like you said, crazy dating show that has changed us forever.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Forever.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: And I owe the show a lot.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: I can say I owe the show a tremendous amount,
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: but I think for me watching back these first three
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: episodes and watching again, seeing my mom and dad and
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: knowing how the last several years have been with them.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Um, I'm so thankful.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So thankful that I said yes, that I did
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: it when I didn't think I wanted to. And, uh,
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: If for nothing else, that video diary of my life
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: right there, that little snap, you know, it's pretty special
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: for me.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I think anybody that goes back and watches this will
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: have the same reaction to your mom. she walks in
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: with a, like a confidence and a beauty and a grace.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: And also she almost walks in and you're like, Oh no,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: like she's going to lay the hammer down. And then
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: you have these conversations, like she did the opposite.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: Like she is as sweet.
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: I knew she would be that way, but I was
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: also kind of like, part of me was like, Oh God,
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: you know, and it was a surprise to me, you know,
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: like I knew they were going to have her there
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: at some point.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: I just didn't know it was the first night.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Right. And, Um, and she came in, you're right. She
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: came in with just this pizzazz about her. And, you know,
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: I got to talk to my sister about it too.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: And here, you know, yeah, we stayed at this really
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: beautiful hotel and they sent a woman over to do
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: mom's makeup. And my, and like, much like you said
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: about your mom, you know, my mom was like, oh
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: my goodness, you know, and just get your makeup done.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: And they, they, they brought a couple of dresses for her.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: And I think it was Carrie Fetman's first season on
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: the show actually was my, I mean, there again, I think,
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: cause they thought I really needed it desperately. Uh, But,
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: you know, he was there and he brought her some
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: dresses to try on and she looked lovely.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: And, you know, yeah, it was just it was really cool.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: I got to say, I watched that part probably two
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: or three times, you know, just to kind of drink
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: it all in, you know.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Final question for you, Bob. Canyon, Jessica, your wife, is
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: probably watching at least some of this back with you,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: depending on where you're at when you're watching it. Do
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: you think she's sitting there in her seat, just falling
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: more madly in love with you?
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: That is really funny.
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: You know, honestly, I think it's funny because, you know,
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: even if she were, she sure as hell not letting
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: on to me. I mean, she's just like, you know,
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: everything these women, I mean, because I got to tell you,
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: I know I must not have really watched my season
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: because I didn't realize people said such nice things about me.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: I was like, I'm watching it going, Oh my gosh,
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: like that's one of the nicest things anyone's ever said.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: And she's just sitting there going, Oh, you know, I mean,
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: and we asked, we actually found, um, and then this is,
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: this is two years ago and it was only for
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: a brief period of time, uh, that my season was on,
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: I think it was on to be at that time,
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: but it was very, very brief. And, um, she put
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: it on as like a joke in front of the
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: boys and, And man, was it confusing for them, right?
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Blake was four, Grayson was six. And they're like, who
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: are you kissing all these women? And it was like
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: the sizzle of my season. And I'm like, turn it off,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: you know? I'm like losing my mind. I'm like, I
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: don't want them to see this, you know? And, you know,
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: that was actually really funny.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: No, I don't think she's realized just yet how special.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: How lucky she is. Yeah, how lucky she is. I
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: hope she listens to this. And realizes and sits in
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: bed at night and just realizes how lucky she is
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: that she gets to lay beside Bachelor Bob.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: I don't think that time will ever come. But, you know,
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: let's hope she listens. She would definitely listen to you, Ben,
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: before she listened to me. So hopefully she hears your
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: words and it really sinks in.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: She's a lucky lady. But so are you, Bob. Hey,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: we are going to be back breaking down. episodes four, five,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: and six. This is a lot of fun for us
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: because we are reminiscing and rewinding not only what The
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Bachelor was like, but also some iconic seasons with some
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: iconic people. Bob is one of my favorite humans to
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: ever walk this earth. So this is a lot of
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: fun for me just to go back through and watch.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: But I also recommend you watching it because it is
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: a great season. Bob is a tremendous lead. His women
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: are fantastic and charismatic. They have a lot of personality
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: and they're beautiful. In fact, in the Words of Mike Fleiss,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: we cast because one of the most important reasons is
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: because they look good by the pool, which was a
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: wild thing to say. I said a.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Lot of wild things back then.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: But we will be recapping it here. You can go
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: back and watch it just like we are on Tubi,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: episodes four, five, and six coming out next week. Also,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Bob and I are going to be on the Bachelor
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Nation reunion cruise together. Yes. Uh, that is, uh, Bob
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: actually was one of the big selling points to me saying, Hey, yeah,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I'll do this.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: I think I called you first and I was like,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: are you doing it?
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: Are you doing it? Yeah.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: If we're going to get to do this, we're going
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: to get to do it together. And so stories will
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: be told. Laughter will be shared. Uh, and we're going
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: to be there hanging out with so many, and we're
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: also going to be recording some stuff along the way. So, Hey,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: stay tuned to the almost famous thread. We've got a
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff out there. Good stuff for you. Even
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: though the bachelor is nowhere to be seen right now, uh,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean we aren't. We are right here in front
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: of you doing cool stuff. Hey, we'll be back next week.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: Bob, you're the best.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Can't wait to keep breaking this down with you.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: I love you, buddy. Thank you.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: I love you, man.
• 58:23
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• 58:26
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