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- 0:01Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Hello, I'm Gary Steerman of Prophecy Watchers and with me
- 0:13Speaker 2: Bill Sallas. Bill, how are you today?
- 0:16Speaker 1: I'm doing great, gear any thanks for having me back
- 0:18Speaker 1: on the program.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Always good to talk with you, and you are I
- 0:25Speaker 2: think if anybody can be given the label student of
- 0:28Speaker 2: Middle East conflicts, it's Bill Solace. You've been studying these
- 0:32Speaker 2: things for years and we appreciate your studies. And I'm
- 0:37Speaker 2: holding in my right hand a sheet of well that
- 0:40Speaker 2: begins with one key question, is war with Iran coming soon?
- 0:45Speaker 2: Now you raise that question, how do you react to it?
- 0:49Speaker 1: Well? And actually I think that war is coming soon.
- 0:52Speaker 1: I think it could have prophetic implications. I'm want to
- 0:57Speaker 1: read this headline to you and then we're talking on
- 0:59Speaker 1: that topic. This was back in November twenty twenty four,
- 1:03Speaker 1: after Israel had done that attack and pretty much taken
- 1:06Speaker 1: out a lot of Iran's missile defense capabilities. And basically
- 1:11Speaker 1: the through some posts says conditions are ripe to strike
- 1:14Speaker 1: Iran's nuclear program. A security official sais and the sub
- 1:18Speaker 1: caption goes on, Iran has never been more vulnerable to
- 1:21Speaker 1: strikes against its nuclear capabilities, the official said. The official
- 1:26Speaker 1: added that Israel will not allow a nuclear Iran and
- 1:29Speaker 1: therefore will continue to prepare to strike the nuclear project.
- 1:33Speaker 1: So I actually did an article in January of this year,
- 1:36Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, listening to these following nine reasons gary
- 1:40Speaker 1: I think Israel will likely strike Iran's nuclear facilities, and
- 1:43Speaker 1: that was the title of the article. They can get that.
- 1:45Speaker 1: They can read that online on my website at prophecydepot
- 1:49Speaker 1: dot com. But number one, Israel has a history of
- 1:52Speaker 1: striking nuclear facilities. They struck Iraqs nuclear facility nineteen eighty one,
- 1:57Speaker 1: they struck the facility in Syria, and also subsequently they
- 2:03Speaker 1: also have the Bagan doctrine. We're not going to vegan
- 2:06Speaker 1: establish that and what that basically says. The Bagan doctrine
- 2:10Speaker 1: is the common term for the Israeli governments prevented of
- 2:12Speaker 1: strike counterproliferation policy regarding the potential enemy's capability to possess
- 2:18Speaker 1: weapons of mass destruction, particularly nuclear weapons. In other words,
- 2:22Speaker 1: that was formulated back in nineteen eighty one by We're
- 2:24Speaker 1: not going began saying preaptive strikes on nuclear facilities. That
- 2:28Speaker 1: policy is still in place. They use it again in
- 2:32Speaker 1: Syria in two thousand and seven. Okay, the other couple
- 2:35Speaker 1: of reasons, I'll go through these real quickly. Issuel has
- 2:39Speaker 1: vowed to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Number
- 2:42Speaker 1: four Israel has destroyed runs and primary missile defense systems,
- 2:46Speaker 1: earning Iran vulnerable to Israeli strike on its nuclear facilities.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Number five Israel will likely have America's approval now the
- 2:55Speaker 1: Trump's in the office. Number six is will not likely
- 2:58Speaker 1: face much severe retaliation from Iran's proxies because of course
- 3:02Speaker 1: they mitigated against the moss as Ball and the Hooties,
- 3:06Speaker 1: and the Fasada is out of Syria now, and so
- 3:10Speaker 1: there's Number seven is destroyed most of the serious missile
- 3:13Speaker 1: serious missile defense systems, which enables more freedom to fly
- 3:16Speaker 1: safely to Iran over Syrian airspace. Number eight Israel has
- 3:20Speaker 1: to act now because Iran is on the fast track
- 3:23Speaker 1: it certaining several several nuclear bombs if they didn't already
- 3:26Speaker 1: have those area some of us think they may already
- 3:28Speaker 1: have four to five explosive ready nukes on the shelf already.
- 3:33Speaker 1: And then lastly, I think an ancient Bible prophecy on
- 3:37Speaker 1: the law in Jeremiah chapter forty nine, which is thirty
- 3:40Speaker 1: four through three, and may have foretold of such a
- 3:42Speaker 1: nuclear strike. So right now we see that we've got
- 3:46Speaker 1: a lot of muscle in the Middle East. Are you
- 3:48Speaker 1: were reading me some stats about what we got over
- 3:50Speaker 1: there in that area? Not only Israel, but maybe the
- 3:53Speaker 1: United States may have to go in this battle with Iran.
- 3:57Speaker 2: There's there's something that just bugs me, and I know
- 4:01Speaker 2: that it's it sort of plagues the thinking of a
- 4:04Speaker 2: lot of people these days, and that is how should
- 4:07Speaker 2: we view Israel. The big fight now is whether Israel
- 4:14Speaker 2: is destined to or has a claim to the land.
- 4:18Speaker 2: And of course the tribes that surround Israel believe that
- 4:22Speaker 2: that Israel definitely does not have a claim to that land,
- 4:26Speaker 2: even though of course it goes way way back and
- 4:30Speaker 2: the Bible speaks volumes about that land. But there's a
- 4:34Speaker 2: big fight now who owns that land? And how do
- 4:38Speaker 2: we interpret this?
- 4:40Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's interesting because in your magazine, I think,
- 4:43Speaker 1: coming out in your main magazine, I've got an article
- 4:48Speaker 1: on it that I wrote called prophetic proof of Jusalem
- 4:50Speaker 1: and Judah belonged to the Jews, and the article prophetically
- 4:54Speaker 1: goes to Zecho twelve to one and compares with to
- 4:56Speaker 1: Isaiah chapter forty four, where Zeka actually quotes from Isaiah
- 5:01Speaker 1: in twelve one here at tick away twelve one today
- 5:05Speaker 1: forty four and through a sequence of historically fulfilled events
- 5:08Speaker 1: that have already happened, we can find out, and I
- 5:12Speaker 1: put this in the article we can find out and
- 5:14Speaker 1: Jerusalem clearly belonged to the Jews. God has given them
- 5:17Speaker 1: exclusive sovereignty. So I invite your readers, and that article
- 5:21Speaker 1: is also online. I probaclydepot dot com prophetic proved Jerusalem
- 5:26Speaker 1: and Judah belonged to the Jews, and seen your Prophecy
- 5:28Speaker 1: Watchers magazine also, Well.
- 5:31Speaker 2: I'd like to say right quickly, I'm holding big May
- 5:36Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, Prophecy Watcher, and right here on page
- 5:40Speaker 2: twenty two is this article. I'll just hold it up.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Jerusalem and Judah belonged to the Jews. Now that is
- 5:48Speaker 2: a statement, and I think you back it up rather well.
- 5:52Speaker 2: But let's go into that a little bit.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Yeah. So well, okay, basically what happens the way so
- 6:01Speaker 1: zech Wi twelve is very important prophecy and I'm watching
- 6:04Speaker 1: for very closely at some point in times Zechari twelve to two.
- 6:09Speaker 1: The surrounding air of nations are going to lay siege
- 6:11Speaker 1: on Judah and Jerusalem, not the nations at large. Every
- 6:14Speaker 1: translation talks about the surrounding peoples, the nearby nations, in
- 6:19Speaker 1: other words, the Arab countries that surround Israel and share
- 6:22Speaker 1: common borders with them, who happen to be Insomy three.
- 6:25Speaker 1: And they're going to come to lay siege on Judah
- 6:27Speaker 1: and Jerusalem. And God's going to make it a cup
- 6:29Speaker 1: of trembling, and that's going to be a really big
- 6:31Speaker 1: deal coming up at this point. So and then it's
- 6:33Speaker 1: going to be defeated by these defense forces told in
- 6:37Speaker 1: verse six. At the the governors of Judah make that
- 6:41Speaker 1: like the idf to be like a firefan in the woodpile,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and like a fiery torch, and the schieves they shall
- 6:47Speaker 1: devour all those surrounding people that are laying siege on
- 6:50Speaker 1: jud and Jerusalem on the right hand and on the left.
- 6:53Speaker 1: But Jerusalem shall again be inhabited in their own place. Now,
- 6:57Speaker 1: So there's gonna be the siege coming because the Arabs
- 7:01Speaker 1: are going to forcibly and falsely tried to claims on
- 7:03Speaker 1: Jude and Jerusalem to Zechari twelve one opens up by
- 7:07Speaker 1: talking quoting Isaiah forty four to show historically prophetically that
- 7:12Speaker 1: Judi and Jusalm belonged to the Jews, and the article
- 7:14Speaker 1: points at Outkay. But one of the interesting things you
- 7:17Speaker 1: and I were talking about before we get that on
- 7:20Speaker 1: this on live here was Zechari twelve four. We should
- 7:24Speaker 1: read that to the readers because God's going to supernaturally
- 7:26Speaker 1: intervene on behalf of Israel to protect you. And Jerusalem
- 7:31Speaker 1: actually makes it a cup of trembling during that seas.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Zachariah twelve two. Behold, I might Jerusalem a cup trembling.
- 7:39Speaker 2: We read that one a bit ago. In verse five
- 7:45Speaker 2: the same chapter, the governors of Jewish will say in
- 7:47Speaker 2: their heart, the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength
- 7:51Speaker 2: in the Lord of Hosts their God. And then Zechariah
- 7:56Speaker 2: goes on to explain that he will give of special
- 8:01Speaker 2: power or authority to the governors of Judah. And that's
- 8:07Speaker 2: a pretty central theme for Psachariah twelve.
- 8:12Speaker 1: I'm glad you met verse five because they get this confidence.
- 8:16Speaker 1: The reason they get the confidence the ideificates of the
- 8:19Speaker 1: confidences is in verse four reverse four, and I'll kind
- 8:22Speaker 1: of expect it and explain that.
- 8:24Speaker 2: In that day said the Lord, I will smite every
- 8:27Speaker 2: horse with astonishment and his rider with madness, and I'll
- 8:30Speaker 2: open my eyes under the house of Judah and will
- 8:33Speaker 2: smite every horse of the people with blindness. Now we're
- 8:39Speaker 2: not talking about horses here. Now we're talking about modern weaponry,
- 8:43Speaker 2: and how do you smite modern weaponry with blindness?
- 8:48Speaker 1: Exactly when Zachari wrote this puffsy, that was the military
- 8:53Speaker 1: means of transport and an attacking link. Siege was on horseback, right,
- 8:57Speaker 1: horse riders. But that's not going to be the case.
- 9:00Speaker 1: So we're talking about a powerful siege. It's going to come.
- 9:02Speaker 1: It says, so powerful, God's got to turn Jusom into
- 9:05Speaker 1: a cup of trembling, and he goes. In some translations,
- 9:08Speaker 1: I'm using the New King James translation on verse four,
- 9:11Speaker 1: and I'll explain this, says I would striking every horse
- 9:14Speaker 1: with confusion, says, I mean three supernatural things the Lord does,
- 9:18Speaker 1: but they are ultimately going to show confidence to those
- 9:22Speaker 1: Israeli defense forces that you read in verse five. You
- 9:25Speaker 1: going to strike every horse with confusion. Now this would
- 9:27Speaker 1: suggest that debilitating malfunctions might occur within the air of
- 9:31Speaker 1: artilleries with their jets, tanks, weapons that'll be struck with confusion.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Then I will strike every horse with confusion and its
- 9:40Speaker 1: rider with madness. So now this to me would imply
- 9:43Speaker 1: that the military equipment malfunctions will cause panic and hysteria
- 9:47Speaker 1: among the soldiers. Now by now Jerusalem will certainly be
- 9:52Speaker 1: a cup of trembling when this starts to happen to
- 9:54Speaker 1: these are peoples, when they see all of sudden supernatural
- 9:56Speaker 1: intervention is going to happen, then it says, ultimately, I
- 9:59Speaker 1: was striking every horse of the people's with blindness. So
- 10:02Speaker 1: the top off the felled equipment, the panicking of the soldiers,
- 10:07Speaker 1: it looks like the military GPS, guidance and rader systems
- 10:10Speaker 1: also quit working, and that's going to bring that confidence
- 10:13Speaker 1: to them. And Zack Ryche overs five. So the Lord
- 10:15Speaker 1: intervens because he has to. It's a powerful siege. He
- 10:18Speaker 1: makes jews them a couple of trembling. He intervenes, He
- 10:21Speaker 1: strikes the horses with confusion, writers with madness, the horse
- 10:25Speaker 1: of the people's blindness, and then ultimately empowers the idea
- 10:28Speaker 1: to be like a fiery torch, and they devour all
- 10:31Speaker 1: the people on the right hand and left hand. That's
- 10:33Speaker 1: those surrounding peoples that think that they can take claim
- 10:36Speaker 1: over jude and Rusalem. Because remember, in his longer David
- 10:40Speaker 1: believe Jusalem is a hurdle third holy of city in Islam.
- 10:43Speaker 1: It's not even mentioned in the Koran one time. It
- 10:46Speaker 1: is mentioned by seventy different names over a thousand times
- 10:48Speaker 1: in the Bible. Is the holy city belonging to God
- 10:51Speaker 1: and the Jews now one time in the Koran. But
- 10:53Speaker 1: they're going to make a final attempt. It's going to
- 10:55Speaker 1: be unsuccessful, an unsuccessful siege for the reasons we just
- 10:59Speaker 1: talked about.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Built. As you're talking, I'm thinking that today today's military
- 11:06Speaker 2: operates by satellite, satellite intervention in various ways, communications, radar,
- 11:18Speaker 2: We've got some very exotic digital equipment that keeps track
- 11:22Speaker 2: of what's happening on the ground. And military intelligence is
- 11:27Speaker 2: not what it used to be. It's very very high
- 11:29Speaker 2: tech now. And Zebhiat's prophecy seems to suggest that that
- 11:35Speaker 2: high tech observational capability is going to be dampened somehow.
- 11:41Speaker 2: In other words, striking somebody with blindness would be would
- 11:45Speaker 2: suggest that you're taking out his radar, radio, satellite intelligence.
- 11:53Speaker 1: And if the church is still here when this happens,
- 11:55Speaker 1: and we don't know, we maybe rapid before this happens.
- 11:58Speaker 1: What an amazing thing. See that the Lord will actually
- 12:01Speaker 1: divinely intervene cause that havoc I hurt those guidance systems.
- 12:07Speaker 1: Steria will count juice on become a cop of trembling,
- 12:10Speaker 1: and these really defense forces will prove to be powerful.
- 12:13Speaker 1: And I remember in Ezekiel thirty seven to ten, we're
- 12:16Speaker 1: told that Israel will come out of the Holocaust scenario
- 12:19Speaker 1: the dry bones vision become an exceedingly great army, and
- 12:23Speaker 1: exceeding the great army is the idea for we're seeing
- 12:25Speaker 1: manifest itself today when you see them using drones and
- 12:29Speaker 1: taking a missile defense systems and pages exploding in as
- 12:32Speaker 1: well as hands and all the various things. We've seen
- 12:34Speaker 1: Israel do attack Iran successfully on two occasions. We're seeing
- 12:39Speaker 1: the Israeli defense forces manifesting into that exceedingly great army
- 12:43Speaker 1: will be exceedingly great when they devour that like if
- 12:46Speaker 1: iy torch and z that grade twelve to six. All
- 12:48Speaker 1: the countries around them and surrounding are peoples who happen
- 12:51Speaker 1: to be in Psalm eighty three. So it's an amazing
- 12:53Speaker 1: thing to be watching. Gary. We're seeing this and another
- 12:56Speaker 1: reason these really defense forces exist in fulfillment prophecy is
- 13:00Speaker 1: not to fight in the tri relation period against any place,
- 13:03Speaker 1: and they're that part of Ezekiel thirty eight. They're not
- 13:05Speaker 1: going to be fighting in the millennium because there's no
- 13:06Speaker 1: war in the millennium. They're going to be fighting to
- 13:09Speaker 1: protect the nation now in the present time.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Now we've set the stage here, all of us, you know,
- 13:18Speaker 2: are watching the nightly news, satellite news for watching to
- 13:24Speaker 2: see what's going to happen with our new president who
- 13:28Speaker 2: has come in with a bang, shall we say. He's
- 13:31Speaker 2: stated some parameters, and there's a lot of conversation between
- 13:36Speaker 2: Donald Trump and the leaders of Israel right now. Preme
- 13:42Speaker 2: Minister Nan Yahoo is known for his brilliancy when it
- 13:47Speaker 2: comes to military tactical tactical assaults of various kinds. His
- 13:54Speaker 2: army has always been very successful. What do you see
- 13:58Speaker 2: now coming just ahead?
- 14:01Speaker 1: Well, it was interesting because the relationship with Donald Trump
- 14:04Speaker 1: management and now it was very solid. Matter of fact,
- 14:08Speaker 1: an article came up today as we shoot this talking
- 14:10Speaker 1: about they've they've talked, and they agree with an agreement
- 14:14Speaker 1: on every issue. And that's an important statement to say,
- 14:17Speaker 1: because recently an article came out said that Donald Trump
- 14:20Speaker 1: had convinced is will not to do a brin to
- 14:23Speaker 1: strike on Iran's suclear facilities. He wanted to trying to
- 14:26Speaker 1: go negotiate with Iran through Witkoff at this point. So
- 14:30Speaker 1: those negotiations are going on to the third stage as
- 14:32Speaker 1: we talk right now. But I don't personally think they're
- 14:35Speaker 1: going to work out because Iran's they're not going to
- 14:38Speaker 1: budge on several things as far as Israels go. They
- 14:41Speaker 1: want an entire dismantling of Iran's nuclear program. Neuron's not
- 14:45Speaker 1: going to do that, and they're not going to curb
- 14:46Speaker 1: their missile ballistic missile program and that sort of thing.
- 14:52Speaker 1: So I don't think this is going to go anywhere.
- 14:54Speaker 1: They don't they actually count in Iran comt recently and
- 14:58Speaker 1: said the JCP, which is back in two thousand and fifteen,
- 15:03Speaker 1: it's the time fifteen. He said that that doesn't work anymore.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Of course, it doesn't work anymore because back then they
- 15:09Speaker 1: can only enrich uranium to three point sixty seven percent.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Now they've already been reaching it beyond sixty percent. They're
- 15:15Speaker 1: not going to go back and reverse that tide. So
- 15:17Speaker 1: basically what they're going to say that Trump's negotiators, we
- 15:21Speaker 1: know we don't want to go back to the JCPOA
- 15:23Speaker 1: that's out dated, and you know, we don't want to
- 15:25Speaker 1: go backwards. So I just don't personally think that's going
- 15:28Speaker 1: to happen. I think isa is going to attack them
- 15:31Speaker 1: pretty soon. I think that's the prophecy in Jeremiah chapter
- 15:34Speaker 1: forty nine with elm You know, I've talked about that before.
- 15:37Speaker 1: I'm looking at that possibly that being a prophecy that
- 15:40Speaker 1: could happen in the nearby horizon.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to return to that question that we
- 15:46Speaker 2: opened with war with Iran. Is it coming soon? You
- 15:51Speaker 2: mentioned there the Red Sea theater of action, the Persian
- 15:55Speaker 2: Gulf theater of action, and the Indian Ocean theory of
- 15:58Speaker 2: theory of action, which I don't think a lot of
- 16:01Speaker 2: people follow. They don't really realize how widespread this area is.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Could you talk about that just a little bit in
- 16:09Speaker 2: the context of scripture.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, basically, you know, America was attacking the Hooties
- 16:17Speaker 1: very fervently recently because they was blocking maritime travel through
- 16:22Speaker 1: the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea there about.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Hooties are far south.
- 16:28Speaker 1: Of Israel and they're down in the Yemen area.
- 16:32Speaker 2: So so some people might not know where they are,
- 16:36Speaker 2: but they've they've been very active. I think we gave
- 16:39Speaker 2: them a kind of a tough blow what about a
- 16:44Speaker 2: month ago.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's so bad that the Iran actually
- 16:49Speaker 1: kind of went through their proxy support for them. The
- 16:51Speaker 1: Iran's concerned about their next war that they could have
- 16:55Speaker 1: with America and Israel as well. But one of the reasons,
- 16:58Speaker 1: you know, one of the reasons was America was doing
- 17:01Speaker 1: that that they could three to the flow of commercial traffic.
- 17:05Speaker 1: You know, ships went through the Red Sea because the
- 17:07Speaker 1: huties was costing millions of dollars to companies because they
- 17:11Speaker 1: were blocking the Red Sea. The other reason that it's
- 17:14Speaker 1: not really mentioned is that Iran has threaten that they're attacked,
- 17:17Speaker 1: they'll shut down the Straight of Horror Moves. So I
- 17:20Speaker 1: don't think America wanted to have two areas shut down,
- 17:23Speaker 1: one by the Hooties won by Iran. Shut down the
- 17:25Speaker 1: Straight of Her Moves. Straight Her Moves is as twenty
- 17:29Speaker 1: one nautical miles is narrow strip in the Persian Gulf
- 17:33Speaker 1: and through which about twenty five percent of the world's
- 17:35Speaker 1: oil still goes through. So I don't think the Trump
- 17:38Speaker 1: administration wanted both those areas to be shut down and problematic,
- 17:42Speaker 1: so that they cleaned up the Red Sea activity at
- 17:44Speaker 1: this point, as best we can tell, Iran sort of
- 17:47Speaker 1: backtracking their support for its proxies, especially the uties. And
- 17:52Speaker 1: in case Iran gets struck and they shut down the
- 17:54Speaker 1: straight of her moves, He's just got a lot of
- 17:56Speaker 1: I mean, USA has a lot of firepower over it
- 17:59Speaker 1: right now, we were reading to me, so we have.
- 18:02Speaker 1: She said that the viewers know some of the the
- 18:04Speaker 1: muscle power we've got over there right now.
- 18:07Speaker 2: Indeed, now let's put in another factor here, and that
- 18:14Speaker 2: is dog you think thirty eight And of the Russians.
- 18:19Speaker 2: As we speak, the Russian Ukraine War is still proceeding
- 18:25Speaker 2: at a pretty good clip, and the Russians don't seem
- 18:30Speaker 2: inclined to stop of their attacks assaults into Ukraine. How
- 18:37Speaker 2: does that play into all this? Well?
- 18:41Speaker 1: Russia and Ezekiel thirteen thirty nine. It's commonly taught I
- 18:45Speaker 1: subscribe to this teaching will be the leader with Turkey
- 18:49Speaker 1: and Iran and nine populations Ezekiel talks about by their
- 18:53Speaker 1: ancient names, which includes some North African countries, Ethiopia, Sudan, Somalia,
- 19:00Speaker 1: probably in Morocco and Tunisia, and some of the breakaway
- 19:03Speaker 1: Soviet Republic the southern steps of Russia areas. So that's
- 19:07Speaker 1: going to happen. In a matter of fact, Russia right now
- 19:09Speaker 1: is also trying to be involved in the negotiations between
- 19:13Speaker 1: Iran and the Trump administration. So Putin's gonna He's still
- 19:18Speaker 1: going to try to be a world leader. He's definitely
- 19:20Speaker 1: at some point going to put together this coalition it's
- 19:22Speaker 1: going to come to invade Israel in the latter days
- 19:25Speaker 1: for plunder and booty, and that coalition is who we
- 19:28Speaker 1: just talked about. So that's on the table. I don't
- 19:32Speaker 1: think that's wharey to happened to ship because there's some preconditions.
- 19:36Speaker 1: It says Israel has to be doing securely without walls,
- 19:39Speaker 1: bars or gates, and we've see the great plunder in
- 19:42Speaker 1: booty because that's what Russia is coming after, and it's
- 19:45Speaker 1: not doing securely right now. They've got the wars with
- 19:48Speaker 1: the Hamas and Habala, the concerned about what's going on
- 19:52Speaker 1: in Syria with the rebels. They're concerned about Iran. Egypt
- 19:56Speaker 1: was amassing massive firepower now to the south was it's
- 20:00Speaker 1: concerned that he's just going to break it. Three with
- 20:02Speaker 1: the Israel there is one in nineteen seventy nine, so
- 20:05Speaker 1: they're not doing security that walls, barslow gates, and they
- 20:08Speaker 1: can't until we just talked about twelve six when there's
- 20:11Speaker 1: the final siege and he takes out there of neighbors
- 20:15Speaker 1: and who've a fulfilled say three, and that's when Ezekiel
- 20:18Speaker 1: thirty eight could happen. But it's it's definitely state setting,
- 20:21Speaker 1: and Putin may be God. We don't know if he
- 20:24Speaker 1: is God, could be another leader at that time, just
- 20:26Speaker 1: like we got a new pope coming, who's that going
- 20:30Speaker 1: to be d So they just come and go. But
- 20:34Speaker 1: Putin could be God. We just don't know.
- 20:37Speaker 2: You know, if there is a well read part of
- 20:39Speaker 2: the Bible, it's Ezekiel thirty eight. I think everybody has
- 20:42Speaker 2: read Ezekiel thirty eight because it's so easy to think
- 20:46Speaker 2: that you understand what's happening there and come to some
- 20:51Speaker 2: very subtled conclusions and say, Okay, I'm going to be
- 20:53Speaker 2: watching for the Russian invasion into the Middle East, and
- 20:58Speaker 2: of course everybody's watching. But how do you look No,
- 21:04Speaker 2: and you've asked the question the war before armaged as
- 21:09Speaker 2: you describe it, what is the difference between that war
- 21:14Speaker 2: and the actual transition into armageddon? What do we see
- 21:18Speaker 2: just ahead of us.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Here's when I have a sequence the pathetic events. I
- 21:23Speaker 1: could be wrong, I could be a little bit out
- 21:25Speaker 1: of order. I think there's some definitely pre tribulation events,
- 21:29Speaker 1: and some of them are tribulation events. Of course, I'm
- 21:31Speaker 1: Ageddon is a tribulation event. Eleven stage campaigns commencing play
- 21:36Speaker 1: around the mid point of the trip going on to
- 21:38Speaker 1: the end of the tribulation period.
- 21:40Speaker 2: But I put the.
- 21:41Speaker 1: Following in this sequence. I'm looking for the long prophecy
- 21:46Speaker 1: in Jeremi chapter forty nine, the disaster and Elam at
- 21:50Speaker 1: the western side of the Iran's the Persian golfer. Iran's
- 21:54Speaker 1: got a Natan's facility. It's is Van. I've got several facilities.
- 22:01Speaker 1: Are the shar nuclear actors there and all their missiles
- 22:05Speaker 1: underground missile styles, A lot of them are there. They're
- 22:07Speaker 1: underground missile cities. Probably there, they're underground airport. It's a
- 22:11Speaker 1: strategic target that's going to be struck and it's going
- 22:13Speaker 1: to create a disaster, acquitting to that prophecy. And then
- 22:17Speaker 1: I'm looking also probably at the destruction of Damascus, and
- 22:20Speaker 1: Isaiah seventeen, which I don't believe is found fulfillment says
- 22:23Speaker 1: one day Damastus will see from being a city. It
- 22:25Speaker 1: will be ruined as heap Isaiah seventeen one says the
- 22:29Speaker 1: destillation is caused by the children of visual in Isaiah
- 22:32Speaker 1: seventeen nine, and it happens overnight ac quaing Isaiah seventeen
- 22:37Speaker 1: fourteen as the prompts. He concludes, then I'm looking at
- 22:39Speaker 1: the seas we talked about coming on jude and Jerusalem
- 22:43Speaker 1: by the Aroanier peoples that will be defeated by the
- 22:47Speaker 1: idea and divine intervention by God. And when all that happens,
- 22:51Speaker 1: gary isa can then dwell securely without walls, bars or gates,
- 22:56Speaker 1: which is a prerequisite condition for Ezekiel thirty eight. Russia
- 23:00Speaker 1: was then at that point in time because a lot
- 23:02Speaker 1: of what we're talking about are Muslim nations getting taken
- 23:05Speaker 1: out by Israel. And the Russia is gonna be a
- 23:08Speaker 1: to put together his Muslim coalition. Russia is not necessarily Muslim,
- 23:13Speaker 1: but almost all of its participants in Iran, Turkey and
- 23:16Speaker 1: the other ones we talked about are Muslim, So they've
- 23:19Speaker 1: got no problem putting together their coalition and coming after
- 23:23Speaker 1: Israel for the punt and booty and gain it is
- 23:26Speaker 1: will be experiencing after they defeat their enemies around them.
- 23:30Speaker 1: So Jeremiah forty ninety long Isaias seventeen the mass is
- 23:34Speaker 1: being destroyed saw May y three. In correlation with Zard
- 23:37Speaker 1: twelve Ezekiel thirty eight, I believe Ezekiel three Aid is
- 23:42Speaker 1: a pre tribulation event for a couple of reasons. We
- 23:45Speaker 1: talked about the timing, just the moment, and then we
- 23:47Speaker 1: get into the tribulation period with the trumpets and the
- 23:50Speaker 1: bowls and that stuff.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Before you go there, let me just bring up just
- 23:55Speaker 2: one idea. If you look at the map of the
- 23:59Speaker 2: Middle East, you've got Russia up north, and then you
- 24:02Speaker 2: come south to Turkey and Iran, and then you come
- 24:06Speaker 2: down to Syria and then over to the east is Iraq,
- 24:09Speaker 2: and there's an absolute huge geography around tiny, tiny, little
- 24:15Speaker 2: Israel at the east end of the Mediterranean Sea, and
- 24:20Speaker 2: it's overwhelming. When you look at square miles, Israel almost disappears.
- 24:29Speaker 2: And it always makes As you were talking about, you're
- 24:34Speaker 2: envisioning the sequence of events that must come. How do
- 24:39Speaker 2: you put these things in order? Where will the first
- 24:42Speaker 2: big move come from? In this war? That's really not
- 24:46Speaker 2: the Battle of Armaghad, and it's before that.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Actually, I wrote an article called Gog's Evil Plan Bucket
- 24:54Speaker 1: the Waterways, which I think is I mean, I'm sort
- 24:57Speaker 1: of speculating, and I think part one is the parts
- 25:01Speaker 1: will be the invasion. Russia will put together it's coalition.
- 25:04Speaker 1: It will come upon from the far north, outnermost parts
- 25:07Speaker 1: of the North, upon the mountains of Israel will be
- 25:09Speaker 1: defeated by God supernaturally. But I believe in the first
- 25:12Speaker 1: stage of his Gog's Evil Plan, he's going to try
- 25:15Speaker 1: to choke off Israel's commerce because Israel's got commercial contracts going,
- 25:19Speaker 1: they got booty, they got a lot of wealth and prosperity.
- 25:23Speaker 1: At that point in time, they're dwelling securely. We've got
- 25:27Speaker 1: the merchants, the Tarshish meaning the commercial theme, and the
- 25:31Speaker 1: young lions. There's some protesters on the sidelines. Saint Russia,
- 25:35Speaker 1: what are you do when you're coming after Israel's prosperity.
- 25:37Speaker 1: We have contracts with them. I think what russ Is
- 25:40Speaker 1: going to try to do is choke off that commerce,
- 25:42Speaker 1: because if you look strategically at the geographical locations of
- 25:46Speaker 1: all the Russia's coalition, you have Persian Gulf could be
- 25:49Speaker 1: blocked off by Iran, the Red Sea could be blocked
- 25:53Speaker 1: up by Sudan and Somalia. The Mediterranean Sea could be
- 25:56Speaker 1: blocked off to the north by Turkey, to the south
- 25:59Speaker 1: by Morocco and Tunisia and Libya. I think the first
- 26:03Speaker 1: thing they try to do is choke off is is
- 26:05Speaker 1: commercial waterways and access, and then I think they can
- 26:09Speaker 1: try to move in and take over these as posterity
- 26:12Speaker 1: once they choked it off. So it's speculating on that
- 26:16Speaker 1: blocking the waterways, but it is It's very interesting to
- 26:19Speaker 1: me when you look at the map you're talking about,
- 26:21Speaker 1: all those Russian coalition countries are strategically located on important
- 26:25Speaker 1: waterways that issue would need to use the commerce out
- 26:29Speaker 1: to the merchants, the Tarsish and the Young Lions.
- 26:33Speaker 2: This is fascinating because it's such a complex geography, and
- 26:38Speaker 2: when you read the Bible, you think you understand what
- 26:42Speaker 2: might happen, and then you look at a map and
- 26:45Speaker 2: you look at the history of the Middle East, and
- 26:48Speaker 2: suddenly things become a lot more complicated that they were
- 26:52Speaker 2: at first. And I'm sure you've had that feeling too.
- 26:57Speaker 1: You know. That's why I use in my powerful slides
- 27:00Speaker 1: of my teachings, in my books and DVDs, I use
- 27:04Speaker 1: a lot of maps and images and try to let
- 27:06Speaker 1: people know because when these profits throat, they were talking
- 27:09Speaker 1: about their ancient names of Edomites and Ammonites and Moabites.
- 27:13Speaker 1: They didn't have gigabytes back then and they were to
- 27:15Speaker 1: use those two right. But so I signed up on
- 27:17Speaker 1: maps and identify these people so we can find out
- 27:19Speaker 1: just like we did. Was Zicherai twelve four? What was
- 27:22Speaker 1: zich right talking about the confusion, the blindness, the madness? Well,
- 27:26Speaker 1: who are these participants? Were they on a map today?
- 27:29Speaker 1: A modern day map? So I try to do that
- 27:31Speaker 1: a lot because it is important people actually people like
- 27:34Speaker 1: those illustrations.
- 27:35Speaker 2: Gary, Now we've all heard about the Battle of Armagap
- 27:39Speaker 2: and I want to get back to this because you've
- 27:41Speaker 2: written quite a bit on it to you, there is
- 27:45Speaker 2: no confusion between the Battle of Ezekiel thirty eight and
- 27:50Speaker 2: the Battle of Armageddon. You put those in two different categories.
- 27:54Speaker 2: And for those who are listening, I think it'd be
- 27:58Speaker 2: good if you would clarify again.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Yes, there are some people who do think that Ezekiel
- 28:06Speaker 1: thirty eight is part of the Armageddon scenario. I think
- 28:10Speaker 1: there's reasons why it's not arm Again, we talked about
- 28:14Speaker 1: Garty that puts you into the mid part to the
- 28:16Speaker 1: latter part of the tribulation, the seven year Tribulation. One
- 28:20Speaker 1: of the stumbling blocks I would have with that being
- 28:23Speaker 1: the timing is because we're told that when the invasion happens,
- 28:28Speaker 1: to God to make invasion happens, God stops it supernaturally
- 28:31Speaker 1: with great earthquake, fire, health, great helstones, flooding, rains, fire,
- 28:37Speaker 1: and brimstone. He stops it supernaturally. And then we're told
- 28:41Speaker 1: that the Israelis are going to take the weapons and
- 28:44Speaker 1: they can work them into fuel for seven years, which
- 28:47Speaker 1: they could do before the tribulation for three and a
- 28:50Speaker 1: half years. They could do in the first half of
- 28:51Speaker 1: the tribulation for three and a half years. In the
- 28:54Speaker 1: second half they're fleeing for their lives because the anti
- 28:56Speaker 1: crisis genocide of the Jews, and if anything, they grab
- 29:01Speaker 1: a weapon to use it to defend themselves in their exile.
- 29:05Speaker 1: So one of the arguments many of us Ron Rhodes
- 29:08Speaker 1: and doctor Frunenbaum and David Reagan and others use is
- 29:11Speaker 1: that it's a pre tribulation event for that reason, not
- 29:14Speaker 1: an arm agatdon event. So they could convert fuel for
- 29:18Speaker 1: the first three and a half years before the tribulation, they
- 29:21Speaker 1: could use the convert field for the first three and
- 29:23Speaker 1: a half years in the tribulation, and then it itself.
- 29:26Speaker 1: They could have eight or nine years worth the fuel,
- 29:28Speaker 1: but they would have to abruptly stop it at the
- 29:30Speaker 1: midpoint of the tribulation. That's one of the reasons. The
- 29:33Speaker 1: other thing, too, though, is when you look at Zechariah fourteen,
- 29:37Speaker 1: which is one of the common places you go to
- 29:40Speaker 1: to find out about arm again, and it says here
- 29:43Speaker 1: Zakaria fourteen, verses one through three, Behold the day the
- 29:45Speaker 1: Lord is coming, and your spoil will be divided in
- 29:48Speaker 1: your midst God will gather all nations to battle against Jerusalem.
- 29:54Speaker 1: The city shall be taken. The house is rifled and
- 29:57Speaker 1: the women ravished. So we have here is you have,
- 30:00Speaker 1: unlike zach Gary twelve, a couple of trembling, unsuccessful Seasuary
- 30:05Speaker 1: fourteen is a very successful siege put together, gathered together
- 30:09Speaker 1: by God, the armies of the world lit by the Antichrist.
- 30:13Speaker 1: They're going to ransack the houses and ravish the women.
- 30:17Speaker 1: So I have a problem with that when you try
- 30:18Speaker 1: to compare that to Ezekiel thirty eight, because it happens
- 30:22Speaker 1: with Ezekiel thirty eight. The russ is going to come
- 30:26Speaker 1: down when people are living in peace with all their
- 30:31Speaker 1: armies live by Russia, Turkey and Iran from the minermost
- 30:34Speaker 1: parts of the north, and they attacked Jerusalem. And when
- 30:37Speaker 1: this battle happens, we're told God says, I would be
- 30:40Speaker 1: very furious. My fury will show on my face. So
- 30:43Speaker 1: then the question is, Okay, what's God going to do
- 30:45Speaker 1: with that blazing anger. I've written an article on this,
- 30:49Speaker 1: by the way, called why Ezekiel thirty is not part
- 30:52Speaker 1: of Omagedon, and it's basically here's you have to say.
- 31:01Speaker 1: So I'm going to read it from the article to
- 31:03Speaker 1: make it easier. So how wut God unleash his blazing anger?
- 31:07Speaker 1: Towards the armies. On the day that they invade Israel,
- 31:10Speaker 1: the maygog invaders if it's part of AMAgeddon, and attack
- 31:14Speaker 1: the See of Jerusalem. Shockingly, he will gather all the
- 31:16Speaker 1: remaining world armies we just spread in Takerarif at fourteen
- 31:19Speaker 1: they're separate from already the already invading magog nations and
- 31:23Speaker 1: bringing them to attack Jerusalem. They successfully capture the Holy
- 31:27Speaker 1: City and he says, I will gather all nations to Jerusalem.
- 31:32Speaker 1: These additional armies are headed by the beasts the Antichrist.
- 31:36Speaker 1: According Revelation nineteen, then the Lord lost some time for
- 31:40Speaker 1: the armies to loot houses and rape women in Jerusalem.
- 31:44Speaker 1: The Lord will also allow armies more time to take
- 31:46Speaker 1: half the population of Jerusalem and send them into exile. Then,
- 31:50Speaker 1: after all this hands and despicable behaviors, the Lord finally
- 31:53Speaker 1: decides enough already and deploys Jesus Christ a single handedly
- 31:57Speaker 1: go and stop fighting against those nations. So it doesn't
- 32:00Speaker 1: make any sense to God would be furious. He's a
- 32:03Speaker 1: blazing anger, but he's going to gather the armies of Armageddon.
- 32:08Speaker 1: He's Rusalem, allow them time to ransect the houses and
- 32:11Speaker 1: rape the women. That is that he's going to show
- 32:14Speaker 1: his anger. I don't think so. I also get another
- 32:17Speaker 1: three more reasons why it doesn't make sense. But Gary,
- 32:20Speaker 1: I just think there's a valid reasons I put on
- 32:23Speaker 1: the article why that's just not part of armageddon.
- 32:25Speaker 2: So if you are positiing man that this could happen
- 32:30Speaker 2: at any moment, nothing has to happen prior to Ezekiel
- 32:36Speaker 2: thirty eight thirty.
- 32:37Speaker 1: Nine, I do. I don't think it's imminent. I've in
- 32:41Speaker 1: an article on that as well as Ezeko thirty imminent
- 32:44Speaker 1: because there's some prerequisite conditions. He still has to be
- 32:47Speaker 1: drawing securely, and then insta of the lamb that alls
- 32:50Speaker 1: bars and the gates and was seen to discreete prosperity.
- 32:53Speaker 1: That's the carrot on a string that Russia comes out
- 32:56Speaker 1: to with its coalition that plunder and booty, and that
- 33:00Speaker 1: Israel doesn't exist just yet. It's on the verge of
- 33:03Speaker 1: it once the idea takes out all its air of
- 33:05Speaker 1: neighbors in seventy three and Grade twelve six. But I
- 33:11Speaker 1: think it's because they're the state setting. But it's not
- 33:14Speaker 1: ready to happen this yet.
- 33:16Speaker 2: But it could happen well Bible says that it will
- 33:21Speaker 2: be in what it calls quote unquote the latter day,
- 33:27Speaker 2: and then in Ezeko thirty nine and eight, behold it
- 33:31Speaker 2: has come, it has done, save the word God. This
- 33:34Speaker 2: is the day where I have where I have spoken.
- 33:40Speaker 2: So there's there's actually a block of time set out here,
- 33:45Speaker 2: but I think you know, putting it in sequence is
- 33:49Speaker 2: is what we're after now.
- 33:51Speaker 1: Yeah, because the latter days we're in that. I think
- 33:57Speaker 1: we all agree we're in a letter of years latter
- 33:59Speaker 1: days right now. So the timing is right for that
- 34:02Speaker 1: for several things to happen. That same term is used
- 34:05Speaker 1: in Jeremi chapter forty nine deal with the Elon prophecy.
- 34:08Speaker 1: It will happen in the latter days, and that hasn't
- 34:11Speaker 1: happened yet either. So we've got two. We've got an
- 34:13Speaker 1: Iran's in both Ezekio thirty eight and Jeremi chapter forty nine.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Elam and Jeremi chapter forty nine were Persian and ex
- 34:20Speaker 1: Eko thirty eight, so distinctly different geographies. When you look
- 34:24Speaker 1: at a map of Iran today, you have Lam with
- 34:27Speaker 1: Hug the Persian Gulf, but Persia was the other section.
- 34:31Speaker 1: The two thirds of Iran proper, and they were always
- 34:34Speaker 1: separated geographically by the Zegroes Mountains, isolated from each other.
- 34:38Speaker 1: So these two contemporaries Jeremi wrote around five ninety six
- 34:41Speaker 1: PC about Elam. Two decades later, Ezekiel writes about Persia.
- 34:46Speaker 1: Two different prophecies regarding Iran that are both can happen
- 34:49Speaker 1: in the latter years. I think the alarm prophecy happens first,
- 34:52Speaker 1: and it's distinctly different than ezekiel thirty eight prophecy for
- 34:57Speaker 1: numerous reasons. I've also written an article on that basically,
- 35:00Speaker 1: so I think it's at thirty eight. It's the latter
- 35:03Speaker 1: days at state setting. All it needs to have happened
- 35:06Speaker 1: is that they felt securely that walls barslow gates in
- 35:10Speaker 1: the midst of the land of the peaceful people, states
- 35:12Speaker 1: telling people, and that is what doesn't exist this yet.
- 35:17Speaker 2: Okay, let's put it put it together. Now, we have
- 35:20Speaker 2: a dynamic new president. He has a close relationship with
- 35:25Speaker 2: Bebing that you know, we have Iran here as the
- 35:29Speaker 2: wild card. Iran it is. I'm going to dig in
- 35:33Speaker 2: its heels no matter what, how is this going to
- 35:37Speaker 2: work out? According to your interpretation through script.
- 35:43Speaker 1: I think initially there's going to be some the policy attempted. Already,
- 35:46Speaker 1: Iran is meeting with Saudi Arabia and meeting with Russia,
- 35:50Speaker 1: and strong relations with Russia. Russia's trying to intervene on
- 35:53Speaker 1: some level with the negotiations. They're talking to the leader
- 35:57Speaker 1: of Oman. I think Russia is Iran is also deeply
- 36:03Speaker 1: in bedded with China. Remember Russia and China were part
- 36:05Speaker 1: of the P five plus one. Was Russia, China, France, Britain,
- 36:09Speaker 1: the United States P five plus one with Germany back
- 36:13Speaker 1: in the JCPOA in twenty fifteen. Now Russia and China
- 36:16Speaker 1: have really jumped on board with Iran. Then they're not
- 36:19Speaker 1: having a major problem with Iran's nuclear programmed. Iran is
- 36:22Speaker 1: trying to get diplomacy, get them involved, get them in
- 36:25Speaker 1: the middle the negotiations with America. But ultimately it's not
- 36:29Speaker 1: going to prevail because in Jeremi chapter forty nine, the
- 36:33Speaker 1: Elam prophecy, which is a strategic target for Israel to
- 36:37Speaker 1: strike on the West Coast, it's going to happen. And
- 36:40Speaker 1: when that happens, it's going to create a disaster, we're told,
- 36:44Speaker 1: and that's going to blow everybody away. That'll be a
- 36:46Speaker 1: prophecy that finds fulfillment the myce mission, probably in the
- 36:49Speaker 1: very near future.
- 36:51Speaker 2: Okay, now you're talking about the Elam prophecy, which I've
- 36:53Speaker 2: heard you talk about for quite a while. For those
- 36:56Speaker 2: who might not be quite as acquainted with geographically, where
- 37:01Speaker 2: is it you Long.
- 37:02Speaker 1: And Son on the southwest side of and primary west
- 37:07Speaker 1: side huting the Persian Gulf of Iran. It's about a
- 37:11Speaker 1: third of the size of modern day Iran. Person compares
- 37:14Speaker 1: about two thirds of the rest of it. And basically
- 37:17Speaker 1: with the six verses in Jeremania forty nun verses thirty
- 37:20Speaker 1: fourth through thirty nine. Now will summarize them in a nutshell.
- 37:24Speaker 1: It's going to come a time when the Lord gets
- 37:26Speaker 1: fiercely angry with the leaders of Iran because he's going
- 37:29Speaker 1: to destroy from the other kings and the princes were
- 37:31Speaker 1: told he's going to be fiercely angry. He's going to
- 37:34Speaker 1: bring about a disaster because of his anger. And we're
- 37:38Speaker 1: told the reason he's angry is because they want to
- 37:40Speaker 1: launch something lethal somewhere, because he says, I'll have to
- 37:42Speaker 1: break the ball of along missile launching capabilities that the
- 37:46Speaker 1: foremost of them might probably nuclear. He's not going to
- 37:49Speaker 1: allow them to send nuclear weapon over to Israel. Going
- 37:52Speaker 1: to break the ball when it happens, it says, he'll
- 37:55Speaker 1: bring the four wins from the four Courts of Heaven,
- 37:57Speaker 1: you know, scatter all those indigenous popular the Iranians are
- 38:01Speaker 1: affected there, the Elolites, ancient elolites, you know, all those
- 38:05Speaker 1: vendsor says, will be no nations for over the Nilites
- 38:08Speaker 1: don't get scattered where they don't go. And he says
- 38:12Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. And that's to me, Gary, that's what
- 38:14Speaker 1: we're going to probably be seen there pretty soon, this
- 38:18Speaker 1: disaster happening because the bovlongs will be broken. Probably that area.
- 38:21Speaker 1: That's where the MISTA launching capabilities are. Like you said
- 38:24Speaker 1: that the tons is Shawn's there, but nuclear actors there.
- 38:29Speaker 2: Again on the Persian Gulf, Yeah, kind of right across
- 38:35Speaker 2: uh from Saudi Arabia. All that that money. Yeah, those
- 38:43Speaker 2: wealthy and influential Shiks are right across the Persian Gulf
- 38:46Speaker 2: from from the area you're talking about.
- 38:49Speaker 1: Yeah, And they also need the person go to be
- 38:51Speaker 1: wide open because they're exporting about twenty five percent of
- 38:53Speaker 1: the world's oil to the Straight moves through there. So
- 38:57Speaker 1: everything's very dynamic right now. And Ran has said on
- 39:01Speaker 1: the newest occasions, if you strike us, we're going to
- 39:03Speaker 1: shut down the Straight on our movies. That's not an
- 39:04Speaker 1: idle threat. And I think he's got all his muscle
- 39:10Speaker 1: power over there by in that area because he's concerned
- 39:14Speaker 1: now he's taking run, but also to protect the prison
- 39:17Speaker 1: Gulf as well.
- 39:20Speaker 2: So if we go back and look at the scriptures
- 39:25Speaker 2: we've been talking about what we are seeing, and I'm
- 39:31Speaker 2: speaking from just you know, a surveyor's point of view,
- 39:35Speaker 2: what we're seeing looks really dynamic, unstable, and I think
- 39:41Speaker 2: everybody in the world is looking at this thing and saying,
- 39:44Speaker 2: it's got to break down somehow. What does the Bible say?
- 39:47Speaker 2: And you've been working on this for years and as
- 39:52Speaker 2: we're nearing the end of our time here put it
- 39:56Speaker 2: together again for us sort of sequentially, what do you
- 39:59Speaker 2: see coming next? And then after.
- 40:02Speaker 1: That, well, I would say I hope what I see
- 40:05Speaker 1: coming next is the rapture because when we see all
- 40:08Speaker 1: these things that stay saying that we're seeing and they're
- 40:11Speaker 1: after bringing him in an event, I think we need
- 40:14Speaker 1: to redeem the time Gary, like we're doing with your
- 40:16Speaker 1: program here, because Jesus could come at any given moment,
- 40:19Speaker 1: and he wants to come. One other things Chuck Misler
- 40:22Speaker 1: told me before he passed away, dear friend, Check Missler,
- 40:25Speaker 1: was one of the most significant things that amazed him
- 40:28Speaker 1: in all of his ministry is that Jesus. He almost
- 40:31Speaker 1: said this tearfully. He said, Jesus, that Jesus yearns to
- 40:35Speaker 1: come get us. Bill, Jesus yearn He's wanting to come
- 40:38Speaker 1: get us. He's seeking to come get us. So in
- 40:41Speaker 1: my estimation, he's probably bothering having the father daily going
- 40:45Speaker 1: what can I get my bride? When can I get
- 40:47Speaker 1: my bride? So I'm watching for that very closely, but
- 40:50Speaker 1: trying to redeem the time and occupy while we're doing that,
- 40:52Speaker 1: because we may be here to see these Middle East
- 40:55Speaker 1: wars happens. I cried twelve, so I maybe three. You know,
- 40:58Speaker 1: lom prophecy Isaiah seventeen is destruction of Damascus. We may
- 41:02Speaker 1: even be here to see Ezekiel thirty eight, because I
- 41:05Speaker 1: believe all those events are pre tribulation. And I can
- 41:08Speaker 1: have a book called the Future War Prophecies that explains
- 41:11Speaker 1: the timing on all those why the pre tribulation, but
- 41:15Speaker 1: basically gearing my estimation, Bible prophecy is about to fall
- 41:19Speaker 1: off their ancient parchments and bound down on the pavement.
- 41:22Speaker 1: And you know, seventy five seventy five years ago something
- 41:26Speaker 1: sincetionals became an Asian seventy six now May fourteenth, and
- 41:32Speaker 1: that was the next next prophecies that are going to
- 41:35Speaker 1: find fulfilling won't take another seventy six years. It happened
- 41:39Speaker 1: soon and sequentially back to back, backing a powerful global
- 41:43Speaker 1: punch in my estimation.
- 41:46Speaker 2: Well, we started out with a question. I'm holding up
- 41:50Speaker 2: your question sheet right here and at right at the
- 41:53Speaker 2: top in bold print is a question war were they're wrong?
- 41:57Speaker 2: Coming soon? And talking about that? Let's wrap it up
- 42:05Speaker 2: into a nice ending here. How does that question play out?
- 42:13Speaker 1: Well, by review, it looks like that is going to
- 42:16Speaker 1: happen soon. It would be prophetic. Could it be stalled
- 42:20Speaker 1: for a while, Probably not much longer, because it's Iran
- 42:24Speaker 1: has got their finger right on the nuclear button. If
- 42:28Speaker 1: they don't already have nuclear weapons, Asia wants to take
- 42:31Speaker 1: them out. The time is rifers will take them out.
- 42:34Speaker 2: There.
- 42:34Speaker 1: They kind of feel like they've butt they miss the
- 42:36Speaker 1: opportunity if they wave much longer. That's an article saying
- 42:39Speaker 1: that they don't want to even want to stall out
- 42:41Speaker 1: the negotiations to buy more time to get a nuclear weapon.
- 42:45Speaker 1: So my estimation the prophecies are going to find fulfilling, namely,
- 42:49Speaker 1: the disaster in Iran in the Alarm area probably nuclear
- 42:53Speaker 1: created because you manageering crisis. And I think the world
- 42:57Speaker 1: my witness that here in the very near future.
- 43:00Speaker 2: And you know, the area you're describing is what we
- 43:05Speaker 2: might call geographically hot right now. We have huge, huge
- 43:10Speaker 2: quantities of oil there, huge quantities of commerce, very powerful
- 43:18Speaker 2: people there, and they are I think positioning themselves several
- 43:25Speaker 2: different areas over there are positioning themselves to take power
- 43:29Speaker 2: and become the ultimate controller in the Middle East. Of course,
- 43:32Speaker 2: God says, no, wait a minute, my people Israel are
- 43:37Speaker 2: going to control the Middle East. And I think we
- 43:40Speaker 2: really should remember that. What are you studying now that's
- 43:44Speaker 2: most exciting to you?
- 43:46Speaker 1: Well, I'm spending most of my time in the studeo
- 43:48Speaker 1: and writing articles and videos on those articles. I've got
- 43:53Speaker 1: a health issue at this point where I can't really
- 43:55Speaker 1: travel much anymore and do speaking some primarily confining myself
- 44:00Speaker 1: to teaching, just teaching videos and writing articles and things
- 44:04Speaker 1: like that. I've talked about quite a few articles I've
- 44:06Speaker 1: recently written in art program here and then get those
- 44:09Speaker 1: to my website at prophecydepot dot.
- 44:12Speaker 2: Com prophecydepot dot com. Also, you can read Bill's article
- 44:17Speaker 2: in the Prophecy Watcher that is May twenty twenty five issue.
- 44:23Speaker 2: I've read the article. It's very good. It's very compact
- 44:28Speaker 2: and has a lot of information. And Bill, we do
- 44:31Speaker 2: appreciate you by the way. You can contribute anytime. We
- 44:34Speaker 2: always appreciate your articles.
- 44:36Speaker 1: Oh, Gary, thank you. I enjoy it very much.
- 44:40Speaker 2: And as we come down to the last few seconds,
- 44:43Speaker 2: I'd like to close with our request for our audience.
- 44:49Speaker 2: You heard Bill refer to a health issue, and I
- 44:54Speaker 2: just want to urge all of you who are watching
- 44:56Speaker 2: to pray for Bill solace and just keep him in
- 44:59Speaker 2: your prayers. Pray for his health, his strength, pray that
- 45:02Speaker 2: he'll be able to keep on writing. And we always
- 45:06Speaker 2: appreciate what you do. Bill.
- 45:08Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Gary, I covered those prayers. Thank you, audience.
- 45:12Speaker 2: All right, anything else before we go.
- 45:15Speaker 1: Now, it's just all It was great to leave with
- 45:17Speaker 1: you my good friend Gary Man. We've done a lot
- 45:19Speaker 1: of shows together Gary, through the years.
- 45:21Speaker 2: We have we have. Indeed again I read the current
- 45:26Speaker 2: Prophecy Watchers. I think you'll find Bill's article very very interesting. Bill,
- 45:32Speaker 2: get stronger, get well, and we'll be praying for you.
- 45:35Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
- 45:37Speaker 2: I'm Gary Cheerman and this is Prophecy Watchers. See you later.