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129. This Week’s Banana Peel: Fueling Misinformation · Eat More Carbs | A Period Recovery Podcast

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  Hey girlies, just a quick reminder before we dive into
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  today's episode. The information shared on this
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  podcast is intended to be general sports nutrition advice
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  and education related to period recovery for female athletes.
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  This is not specific to anyone individual and it may or may not
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  apply to your situation. If you are looking for
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  personalized guidance, be sure to apply to our RBSN Period
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  recovery nutrition coaching program.
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  Our four month period recovery program is designed to help you
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  sustainably get your period back and keep it.
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  that one-on-one approach. That's exactly why we created
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  girlies working on period recovery, specifically if you've
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  lost it due to hypothalamic amenorrhea.
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  The full Period Recovery guide is finally out now, and we will
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  leave all of the information for it in the podcast show notes.
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  This is the Eat More Carbs podcast.
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  Hello and welcome back. This is the More Carbs podcast.
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  It's Jenna here with Riley. We are both dietitians and we
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  talk every Thursday about sports nutrition for the girlies.
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  Today we are doing our What drives this Bananas episode,
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  which is always one of my favorites to do.
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  But before we get into that, we are going to do our high and
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  low. So sharing just a little bit
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  about our week, the good and the part.
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  We wish you gone a little bit differently as always.
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  Riley, can you kick us off? Yes, I have a very special high
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  for this week because the period recovery community is officially
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  launched. So we've been open for about two
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  weeks and now kind of this week we officially launched it
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  publicly. So we're really excited about
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  it. We've been working on it for
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  months. And if you're not familiar with
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  the period recovery community, it's basically a framework that
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  we have taken from our period recovery program and we've made
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  it self-paced and then we've paired it with a community
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  available for athletes just like yourself who are going through
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  period recovery right now. So we're really, really excited
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  about it. We have a ton of different
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  resources and educational tools in there.
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  We're also doing like live calls every single week so can hop on
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  and, you know, chat with an RBSN.
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  Dietitian, we're so excited about the community.
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  It's been something that RBSN has been hard at work on for the
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  past couple of months. Getting that ready for
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  everybody. So super excited and definitely
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  sharing in that. High with you.
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  And it's honestly something that we've been like dreaming about
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  for years, like you and I have been talking about this for so
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  long, Jenna. So it's really fun to kind of
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  like see it coming to fruition. Definitely.
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  So my low also kind of has to do with period recovery.
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  And Jenna, I don't know if you resonate with this at all, but I
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  just think it's really funny. Like now when I go out and like
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  I'm meeting new people or I'm talking to people or I'm talking
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  to my hairdresser, I just think it's really interesting now.
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  Like when people ask me what I do for work and I'm like, oh,
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  I'm a sports dietitian. And they're like, oh, like what
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  do you do? And I'm like, well, we help high
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  level athletes. Like, we work with some
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  professional athletes, we work with Olympic athletes, and then
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  we help girls get their periods back And people are like, what?
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  Yes, I get this a lot where people are kind of like taken
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  aback and they don't really know how to respond.
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  I think it's a lot of times if anybody that's unfamiliar with
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  the HA, which oftentimes happens to be like somebody who's male
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  and they're like, that's a thing.
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  And then you kind of have to like explain a little bit more
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  about it because people are always like really curious about
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  how that happens. And I think that there are a lot
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  of myths, which we've talked about South many times on this
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  podcast about why it happens, how it happens and all of that.
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  At least in my experience, people want to know, like, is it
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  always because of this, like and all of that sort of stuff.
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  So yeah, I'm with you on that. Yeah, I just think it's been
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  really interesting too, like, because we've been seeing a lot
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  of like, Rob's old teammates and hanging out with some, like,
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  former male athletes and they're very invested in the business,
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  which is amazing. But they're like, explained to
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  us like more about this problem. Like we didn't even know this
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  existed. Like girls don't get their
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  period if they're like, have this imbalance.
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  So it's just always a fun conversation starter.
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  It is. A fun conversation starter.
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  I like to look at it that way. Yeah.
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  How's your week going? OK, Riley, I have been so
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  excited to share this with you. A lot of you, when you hear
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  this, you're going to be like, Jenna, you are so behind on this
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  because it's so silly. And I think everybody knew about
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  it before I did. But that's OK.
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  I'm late to a party. And that's just, I guess, how I
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  do things. Have you heard of the app called
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  Focus Friends? No, but I'm also old so please,
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  Please wait. This is where I was too.
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  So we're on the same page here. This app, I guess right now is
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  supposedly like one of the most popular on the App Store and
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  it's designed to help you focus. We have talked so many times
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  about how at RBSN we have a lot of projects running and
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  sometimes I have a hard time focusing on one task at a time.
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  Like if I am, for example, editing the podcast and then I
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  get a notification that client has messaged me.
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  A lot of times I stop what I'm doing and then divert my
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  attention and then I get distracted and I start working
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  on other things. I guess my focus could be a
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  little bit better. This app is designed to help you
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  focus because it helps keep you off of your phone, which
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  sometimes definitely does distract me because some of our
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  tasks that we do at RBSN are on our phone.
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  This app is designed that any time that you ask it to focus,
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  you have this little bean and the bean wants to like knit
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  clothing. And so you can set the timer for
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  how long you want to focus for. But if you interrupt the bean
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  while it's trying to knit clothes, it stops and it gets
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  really sad. And then if you stop the focus,
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  all of the progress that this bean has done with its knitting
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  gets completely lost. So of course Nolan hears about
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  this and he tells me about it, which then creates a little bit
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  of a sense of competition because of course, once you're
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  bean knits a certain amount of things, you can like trade it in
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  and help it like build its room and stuff like that.
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  Like there are rewards set into this, of course.
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  But now it's kind of on this thing of like, how long can I
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  focus? And how can I focus on one thing
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  at a time? Because we both looked at it and
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  we were like, OK, I could set my phone to focus for hours on end
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  and not touch it, but I'd still be doing six other tasks at a
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  time. So now our thing when we use the
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  Focus app is that we have to be focusing on one task at a time
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  in order for it to count. And that's how we're like
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  approaching it because of course we have to make it a little bit
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  of a competition between the two of us.
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  So that's my high is that I have this new app that is so
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  ridiculous, but it's actually pretty helpful and I've been
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  using it for a couple of days. It's so ridiculous, like I'm not
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  kidding, but it's pretty helpful.
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  If you haven't downloaded it, it's free.
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  I just have no words right now. Like I have no words for the
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  Internet. And the fact that you were so
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  bought into the Bean app and I need this Bean knitting thing
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  now. Like, but I feel like it would
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  get obsessed with it because I'd be like, Oh yeah, knit knit,
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  knit, knit, knit, go go, go, go. Exactly.
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  That's The thing is like, you want it to knit more.
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  And of course there's like upgrades that you can buy and
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  stuff like that, but I'm not going to do because that's not
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  how I operate. And we know this, but I want it
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  to knit as many pairs of socks as it possibly can.
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  We need to use this during our meetings.
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  I know. Can you imagine?
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  Off the topic. Then we have to interrupt it.
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  It's actually not a bad idea. We should try it.
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  We should try it. OK.
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  We'll report back on how it's going.
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  OK. I like this.
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  We're going to incorporate it into RBSN meetings.
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  I can't wait. What's your low for the week?
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  If you know me, I really like to have my nails done.
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  This is something that just makes me feel like 5% more put
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  together. It makes me just feel like I
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  have something done, but I really hate getting my nails
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  done. Like I don't like that process.
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  It takes a long time. I don't really have the patience
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  for it. So I try to go as long as
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  possible in between my nail appointments.
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  I know I've told you about this, Riley.
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  Like I will push it to the very last minute to the point where
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  like the gal that does my nails is like, what have you been
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  doing? Your nails look horrible.
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  And I'm like, I know, I'm sorry. Anyway, yesterday I looked down
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  and they looked so horrendous and like that is like such a
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  nice way to say it that I just got up again, interrupting my
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  focus. Here I am.
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  And I clipped off all of my nails, filed them all off.
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  And so for the first time in years, I don't have anything on
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  my fingernails and I feel so weird.
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  Wait, I've like never seen this. I know.
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  For so long and I've never seen. Nothing, nothing.
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  You know, my nails. So I had a bit of a Britney
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  moment I guess, but instead of shaving my head, I took off all
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  my nails. Do you get gel like or do you
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  like dip or you get gel? Yeah, I get gel.
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  So it's like easy because the brand that my nail gal uses is
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  one that you can file off. So you don't need like a drill
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  to file it off because I don't like that.
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  So you can like easily take them off.
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  Like I could take them off on my own without any like acetone or
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  anything like that. And I just looked down and I was
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  like, I can't do this. It's so horrible.
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  I can't be seen in public like this.
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  They look pretty good though. They look clean.
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  It's just so weird I'm used to it.
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  Like at least seeing like somewhat of a longer nail on
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  you. Right.
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  Yeah, me too. So that's my low is that I had
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  AI had a momentary lapse of judgment and you.
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  Have to turn your bean knitting. Off So that's my high and my low
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  for this week, but I'm really excited to share with you kind
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  of the misinformation that we have found online through what
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  drives us bananas this week. We'd love to hear from you.
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  What did you find this week that drove you bananas?
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  Everything is driving me bananas.
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  I'm over it, Jenna. The amount of times that I say
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  it drives me bananas. Insert sentence has
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  exponentially grown since we started doing these episodes.
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  Like it's my way of letting everyone know around me that
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  that is not for me. We need hats.
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  Yeah, or T-shirts or just signs that go everywhere.
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  Literally, I need a little sign that I can hold up, you know,
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  like the wrap it up box at the end of like a speech or
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  something when they turn that on.
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  And that's when you you're cute to know that you need to be
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  done. I need a little sign that says
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  this is driving me bananas. That I can just hold up when
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  things are driving me bananas. This is something that you and I
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  have talked offline about a lot, but we get are so lucky at RBSN
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  because I feel like have such like a positive community around
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  food, working with our clients, right?
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  They're trying to, you know, maximize performance, but then
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  also heal the relationship with food and they're moving in a
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  positive direction. And I think it's so eye opening
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  to me sometimes when I go onto the Internet and I'm like, not
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  in our little bubble and I'm like, what is happening out
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  there? Like all of y'all are just
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  driving me bananas at this point.
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  Yes, it's so true, but there are so many things out there that
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  truly do just drive me bananas. What's going on this week?
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  Like, I know I've been inventing already for three minutes, but
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  what is driving you bananas? OK y'all, I need to get off of
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  Facebook and get out of the Facebook running groups because
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  every time that I go on Facebook, I get bombarded with
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  things that have been posted in groups.
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  Like you don't see your friends anymore when you get on
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  Facebook. Facebook used to be this thing
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  that you used to get on and be like, what are my friends doing
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  on a Friday night? And now you get on and all you
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  see are these ridiculous things about how to improve your
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  running time. And I got on and of course the
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  top posts like someone asks a running page your favorite
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  nutrition advice that made you a better runner.
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  Jenna, I don't even know, but I want to know so bad.
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  I also can't stop myself from clicking on, looking at the
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  comments on these things. I can't stop myself.
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  I keep doing it. Same.
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  I run to the comments because I'm like, I have to know.
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  I know it's going to be ridiculous.
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  I know I'm going to disagree with it and I know it's going to
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  make me heated, but I do it anyway because I'm like, I have
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  to know. I need to know what people are
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  thinking is actually making them a better runner.
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  And the amount of people that were like carnivore, keto, lion
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  diet, things like that, they're like remove carbohydrate, cut
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  out any type of bread or crisp or chip or things like that.
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  And I'm like how are we maintaining, running and
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  removing carbohydrate? So confusing if you're somebody
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  who's like starting running or you're starting your nutrition
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  journey because there's so much of that information on there.
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  But then there, we have to give some people credit that they're
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  in there fighting the good fight and they'll eat carbohydrates,
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  focus on these things, make sure you're hydrating.
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  Like who are you supposed to believe?
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  Right, the vast majority of the comments, if you're just reading
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  through and skimming are telling you to remove carbohydrate from
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  your intake. You're going to go with that
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  just because the majority of comments say that.
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  And the very small minority say make sure you have carbohydrate
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  beforehand, make sure you fueled during your run, hydrate
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  appropriately, recover with carbohydrate and protein.
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  And I'm guilty of the fact that I'm not jumping into that
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  conversation like I'm not engaging.
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  And I think that the reason why is because people are fearful of
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  the response comments that you get from all of those people
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  that are heavy into the carnivore aikido lifestyle that
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  then say something back to you. And I'm just not ready to engage
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  in that type of a conversation online.
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  It's not worth my mental energy. It's not worth my time to spend
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  arguing with people online that they've already decided what
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  they're going to believe about what's the best thing for
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  nutrition for runners, even if it is something that, like I
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  know from a scientific standpoint, is detrimental to a
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  running career. We have had such an increase in
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  applications to our period recovery program because of
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  girlies who are runners and they are trying some of these like
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  low carbohydrate, high protein, high fat diets and it's
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  resulting in them losing their period.
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  Yep. It's so sad that not only do you
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  see that type of rhetoric when you go on to a Facebook group,
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  but it's also something that you see online all the time.
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  We are so fortunate that at RBSN, like you mentioned
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  already, like we have this wonderful supportive, like
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  corner of the Internet that we're in that's a food forward
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  and body positive. And like all of these great
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  things around how we view fueling and how we view fueling
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  your body appropriately. But that doesn't mean that every
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  now and then I don't see something on Instagram that's
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  like how I eat high protein, no refined sugar, and I'm going out
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  and I'm running all of the miles and it just drives me bananas.
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  I also think too that there is a big misconception in are you
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  running or are you training just like are you running or are you
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  competing? Are you training like I think we
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  just generalize everybody because I think it's easy when
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  we look at like club sports. So like when we're younger, when
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  we're high schoolers, right, or we're in college and we're like
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  competing with a team for a championship.
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  We have a set season, But then when you are these like I'm
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  putting recreational and air quotes because y'all are out
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  here, you are not recreational like you run in a sub 130
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  marathon. Well, that's you're breaking the
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  world record there. But if you're running a sub 130
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  half marathon or you're trying to break 3 hours on the
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  marathon, you're a competitive athlete, right.
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  Like we looked at the Boston study, you know in 2022 where
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  the people who are qualifying for Boston are mainly
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  recreational again in air coat runners and or under fueling
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  because you do not realize how active you are.
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  And that's not point today for what drives me bananas.
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  But you do not realize how active you are.
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  Yes. And I think that's so true,
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  especially for runners, is that it's something that like people
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  pick up a lot of times as a hobby or in conjunction to
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  another type of training. And even when they decide I'm
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  going to train for 1/2 marathon, I'm going to train for a
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  marathon, I'm going to trade for A5KA10K, whatever it is.
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  And they start increasing their training and the amount of
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  running that they're doing, but they don't ever consider that an
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  increase in their athletic ability.
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  And they're just like, Oh no, no, I'm not an athlete.
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  Like I just run every now and then and that's not the case.
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  Like we have to approach this from the different perspective
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  that you're an athlete and as an athlete you need adequate fuel
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  to fuel the things in your life that you're trying to
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  accomplish. This actually kind of ties into
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  what's driving me bananas right now because a lot of the time we
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  talked about like people don't realize how active they are.
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  A lot of female athletes do not again, realize how active they
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  are and how much they need to fuel their bodies.
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  I would argue that female athletes who are training as a
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  air quote hobby right not a professional athlete, are
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  actually under more stress and are more likely to have low
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  energy availability and a lack of a menstrual cycle than maybe
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  a professional athlete would. Ooh, tell me why you think that
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  is. I think it's so hard, like as
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  woman, because there's so many different pressures on US,
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  right? And we wear so many different
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  hats and it can be really challenging.
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  And I'm going to kind of like give you an example of my
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  schedule because again, like I'm really lucky that I work at RBSN
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  and we work flexible hours. We work really hard.
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  People though, like we work really hard.
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  We just do it on a flexible time.
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  I wake up at 5:30. I can either rain then or I can
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  possibly fuel then for a harder training session later on in the
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  day. So I either wake up and I work
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  at 5:30 or I wake up and I fuel really quickly and then I go
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  train. I have that flexibility because
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  we own this business, right? So we have that flexibility.
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  But if I wanted to run 10 miles, 15 miles, I would need to eat a
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  big amount of food before I did that.
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  If I had to be at work at 8:00 sharp, I would be waking up at
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  like 433 thirty to eat my breakfast.
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  Nobody's doing that. I'm not doing that.
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  So the only options would be for me to not train or for me to go
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  into my training under fueled. OK, this is such a great point
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  to bring up. As you're saying this, I'm
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  thinking of so many examples that I can think of from clients
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  or even myself about the need to train or our desire to train and
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  the things that we sacrifice in order to do that.
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  And a lot of times it is fueling or it is part of the recovery
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  process. Like sleep.
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  Generally you say to your athletes like if they've gotten
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  under 6 hours of sleep per night, you say that's kind of a
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  cutoff for when they can't train or when they shouldn't train.
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  We know that that's not a great way to walk into training for a
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  number of reasons when you are tired and under slept and under
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  recovered essentially. But if you are someone that's
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  putting that pressure on your yourself because you're like, I
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  have to wake up at 3:00 AM in the morning in order to run X
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  amount of miles because that's what my training plan says
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  before I can go to work. And then you're in work meetings
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  all day and can't fuel because no food allowed and things like
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  that. That like all of these
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  components then lead to under fueling because we put so much
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  pressure on ourselves to accomplish these big goals that
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  we have. But then at the same time, we're
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  considering ourselves not an athlete.
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  So we don't think we need to fuel as one because we're not
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  technically competing for like a first place trophy or anything
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  like that. Wow, that's such a good point
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  that I hadn't really considered before.
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  And you're so right. Most of the time it is the
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  fueling that we sacrifice in order to try to train.
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  Yeah. Because let's be real, like we
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  don't want to sacrifice sleep, so we're waking up later and
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  then we are missing our fueling window.
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  And then tying this back to what you kind of see on the Facebook
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  groups is like people are then reinforcing that like, hey, it's
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  OK, run fasted. Or you can eat a steak the night
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  before. And because of whatever science
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  you believe, it's allowing your body to be fueled throughout
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  about the entire morning. Like are some shenanigans like
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  that. Nothing I think is so hard about
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  the information in those Facebook groups is because a lot
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  of the information that is floating around that is common
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  basic nutrition knowledge is then being reinforced in those
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  groups, even though it's not the right approach.
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  That is such a good point. I think that so many people
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  offer their personal opinions in that group for what's worked for
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  them and it's to combat typically like a certain symptom
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  or side of a negative experience with fueling.
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  So many people are going to say that you should run in the
• 17:42
  morning without fueling at all or you should run fasted because
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  they hadn't trained their gut or they ate too close to when they
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  started to run. So they experienced a negative
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  side effect. So their solve was instead of
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  eating earlier in the day because they didn't want to wake
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  up earlier, they just chose not to fuel at all, which solved
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  that problem. But what they don't realize is
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  that now they're running in an under fueled state that puts
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  even more stress on the body. That puts us in an increased
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  risk for injury, not just in the long term, but in the short
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  term. If you're not properly fueled on
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  a specific run, there are so many negative consequences that
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  come along with not getting to like the root quote, UN quote of
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  the issue at hand. And then also telling other
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  people what worked for you is also going to work for them.
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  We've talked about this I don't know how many hundreds of times
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  about how unique and how specific everyone's fueling is
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  to themselves and why that works for you.
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  Everybody is so different from what they need to fuel with and
• 18:30
  what works for them and then what also like their training
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  looks like for the day. It's going to be, like you said,
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  very different if you were to wake up and run like a three
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  mile speed workout than it is for you to run a 12 mile long
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  distance training run like that. Fueling beforehand is probably
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  going to look pretty different and the fueling during is
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  probably going to look pretty different too.
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  And then what you tolerate is going to be different from what
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  I tolerate. So the type of food that we're
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  both choosing, even though both of those things might work
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  really well to fuel either one of us, is going to be different
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  simply because of what we tolerate better.
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  And there's so much information out there and so many options,
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  which is good. But most the time people are
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  just telling you what's worked for them, which was a simple
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  solve to a problem that's way more complex.
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  Way more complex. And that's also also going to
• 19:08
  take time to figure out what works for you.
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  We have a lot of period of covered girlies who joined this
• 19:14
  summer and preparation for their fall season, whether that's
• 19:17
  dance or soccer or lacrosse or cross country, because they want
• 19:22
  to build good habits and learn what their body likes this
• 19:25
  summer and preparation for season.
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  And I think that is also something that we see a lot of
• 19:30
  the time on those Facebook groups.
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  It's like you don't need to just train fasted and like just take
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  a gel. Like when you compete, it's like
• 19:36
  you're probably going to shoot your pants, but that's not
• 19:39
  because carbohydrates are bad, it's just because you took the
• 19:42
  wrong approach when it came to fueling.
• 19:44
  Exactly. The unfortunate side of
• 19:45
  nutrition sometimes is that you're going to come across
• 19:47
  something that like didn't sit well in your stomach, or you
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  didn't like how it made you feel.
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  The good part of nutrition is that there's always something
• 19:53
  else we can try. Always.
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  And that's usually what I tell people if they're like kind of
• 19:57
  hesitant to implement something or change something, like all we
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  have to do is try it once and if it doesn't work, let's tweak it.
• 20:03
  I make this deal with people with spinach.
• 20:05
  I'm like, just put spinach in a smoothie.
• 20:07
  I say if you can taste, you never have to do it again.
• 20:10
  Here's the deal, just try it once.
• 20:11
  If you don't like it, we don't even have to look at spinach
• 20:13
  again in your smoothie. Like, don't worry about it, try
• 20:15
  it, see what happens. They never taste it.
• 20:17
  They never taste it. You're not going to taste it.
• 20:19
  But hey, I'm going to make the same deal with you.
• 20:21
  Like if you are listening to this and you're like, how can I
• 20:23
  incorporate more vegetables into my feeling plan?
• 20:26
  Try spinach in your smoothie. If you don't like it, you don't
• 20:28
  have to do it ever again. So many things just driving us
• 20:30
  bananas. Probably I could go on and on
• 20:32
  about the things that drive me bananas.
• 20:34
  Me too. This is why we have these
• 20:36
  conversations with you all. Every single month.
• 20:38
  Just venting about the things that drive us bananas because my
• 20:40
  gosh, they're just becoming increasingly prevalent, I guess.
• 20:44
  Yeah, it's a it's a crazy world right now.
• 20:46
  Is there anything else that's driving you bananas?
• 20:48
  Oh gosh, yeah, so much. But we'll have to save it for
• 20:50
  another episode because if I started talking about what I'm
• 20:53
  thinking of right now, it would take so long.
• 20:55
  I think everyone Would Be like this deserved its own episode.
• 20:57
  I have to share one more thing. I have to give a bonus because
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  you and I were chatting about this offline, Jenna, and I am
• 21:02
  seeing it more and more now. But GLP 1 advertisements for air
• 21:08
  quotes again, we've got a lot of air quotes on these last couple
• 21:11
  of episodes, but air quotes for the girls.
• 21:13
  And I am so sick and tired of the focus on like weight loss
• 21:19
  for the girlies, on body image for the girlies, these
• 21:22
  unrealistic pressures that we're putting on the girlies.
• 21:24
  Wow. I think this ties back into what
• 21:26
  you said before about like high expectations that are put on
• 21:29
  girls in general with you have to get up at 3 in order to get
• 21:32
  your run in if you want to train and all of those things.
• 21:35
  I think that kind of adds on to it, But this was something that
• 21:37
  you've said in an episode a really long time ago.
• 21:39
  So if you've been a listener of the More Carbs podcast for a
• 21:42
  long time, thanks for supporting, first of all.
• 21:43
  But secondly, you probably heard us talk about this before, but
• 21:46
  it was after you gave birth to Charlie and you were talking
• 21:48
  about the tremendous amount of pressure around a postpartum mom
• 21:52
  and her snapback or return to body.
• 21:55
  And then there's this. You have a dad bod.
• 21:57
  Why is it that we're targeting women specifically for GLP one
• 22:00
  and weight loss specifically like that marketing?
• 22:03
  Why? Why is it women specific?
• 22:04
  Why are we only targeting girls for this?
• 22:07
  I don't know, but I keep thinking like it's 2025.
• 22:10
  Like I thought we were over this and we're not.
• 22:13
  Like it seems to be the same message and it just has a
• 22:16
  different outer coating depending on what the vibe is in
• 22:20
  the current moment, right? So like right now it's GOP ones
• 22:23
  and we're not against GOP ones. I think it just goes back to the
• 22:27
  why. Like why are you using it?
• 22:29
  Everything that we do and our recommendations are BSN, like
• 22:32
  the why is so important. Why are we going after like
• 22:36
  girlies or athletes in this situation?
• 22:38
  And there's a lot of like really harmful marketing.
• 22:42
  And they're going after weight loss not as in a medical reason
• 22:46
  perspective, but they're going after people's insecurities
• 22:49
  about their body. And that is what's making me
• 22:51
  sick. It's also driving me bananas,
• 22:53
  but it's really making me sick. We've talked offline about this
• 22:56
  a lot, but a lot of times we see athletes come into the period
• 22:59
  recovery program who have started some type of weight
• 23:03
  loss. They get a little bit of
• 23:04
  positive reinforcement from maybe some improved running
• 23:07
  times. So that kind of starts to play
• 23:09
  into this idea that if they were to continue on this weight loss
• 23:12
  journey, they would see continued improvement in their
• 23:14
  times or in their PRS and things like that.
• 23:17
  And then that's compounded with comments from family and friends
• 23:21
  about how they're taking great care of themselves because we
• 23:24
  associate that weight loss with a positive why behind it.
• 23:29
  And sometimes that why behind it isn't positive.
• 23:32
  And that's what leads to someone applying to the period recovery
• 23:34
  program because things have gotten too out of hand with the
• 23:38
  relationship with food, relationship with fueling and
• 23:40
  the training that they're doing. And now all of a sudden, we're
• 23:42
  in a very dangerous, for lack of a better way to say it, period
• 23:45
  of low energy availability. That is such a good point
• 23:48
  because something that a lot of girls ask like on my QA or a lot
• 23:53
  of our clients ask is like, will I ever be able to like body
• 23:57
  recomp like after I'm finished with this program?
• 23:59
  Because I tried to lose weight before or I tried to body comp
• 24:03
  or I tried to eat a certain way and I, I had low energy.
• 24:06
  My bones are now, you know, weaker.
• 24:08
  I don't have my period. And it's not that we can never
• 24:10
  recomp you again. It's just the way that you were
• 24:13
  doing it and the way that you approached it was incorrect.
• 24:15
  And this ties back to your point because a lot of the time we
• 24:18
  praise fast weight loss. We think, Oh my gosh, you're so
• 24:21
  dedicated. You're just so motivated.
• 24:23
  Wow, Riley, you lost your baby weight in three months, which I
• 24:26
  don't know, that was just me as an example.
• 24:28
  But if I lost all my weight in three months, like that shows
• 24:31
  that I'm not fueling properly. Or if you lost weight really,
• 24:33
  really fast, you're under fueling.
• 24:35
  Like that's a big red flag. But then we reinforce that
• 24:37
  behavior because it's a quick result and that's something that
• 24:40
  we want to see as a society. It's super interesting because
• 24:43
  like I think of like celebrities who have maybe dabbled in the
• 24:46
  GLP one for aesthetic weight loss purposes.
• 24:49
  And previously they were really talking about like how much they
• 24:52
  love their body and how body positive they were and things
• 24:54
  like that. And then all of a sudden they
• 24:56
  show up a couple months later and they look like a totally
• 24:58
  different person. And then they receive a
• 25:00
  tremendous amount of like praise and feedback for how they look
• 25:04
  now. And I'd imagine that kind of
• 25:05
  plays into their own insecurities.
• 25:07
  And I think that's really sad that, like, they felt so much
• 25:10
  pressure to still change how they look.
• 25:12
  I don't really want to get into all the details of that because
• 25:15
  that could be an entirely different episode.
• 25:16
  Yeah, I think it's just really sad that we put so much pressure
• 25:19
  on people. I don't know, I think it's just
• 25:20
  sad. It is and I, I understand
• 25:23
  because like I used to be there, like I used to put so much value
• 25:27
  and like what other people thought and my body image, it's
• 25:30
  really hard to breakthrough, I think and it's really hard to
• 25:33
  kind of separate it and you really have to go on a journey
• 25:35
  and it takes time. So if you are listening to this
• 25:38
  episode and you feel like you kind of like want to go on this
• 25:41
  journey and you're working on getting your period back, you're
• 25:43
  working on trying to have like a more positive or neutral body
• 25:46
  image, keep going like it's hard, but it's worth it and you
• 25:49
  will be able to get there. I couldn't agree with you more.
• 25:51
  It's hard work, but it is so worth it in the end.
• 25:54
  If you do have questions for Riley and I about the period
• 25:56
  recovery journey, getting started and things like that,
• 25:59
  please feel free to reach out to us.
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  You can always leave questions in the comments of this podcast
• 26:02
  or you can find us online. You can find Riley at Easy dot
• 26:04
  Sports Nutrition and you can find me at Jenna dot Fisher dot
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  nutrition. Thanks again for listening to
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  this episode. Please make sure you rate,
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  subscribe and review. And as always, remember to eat
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  more carbs.